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Volume 998: debated on Wednesday 4 February 1981

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Written Answers To Questions

Wednesday 4 February 1981

Employment

Construction Industry

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will consider the introduction of special construction industry training board schemes whereby Government factory building programmes could act as training bases for construction and allied trade apprentices.

I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that it is the policy of the construction industry training board to encourage employers to use initial off-the-job training for apprentices. Thereafter, it is for employers to continue training on site. This policy would apply to contractors engaged in Government factory building programmes. The board uses site projects to provide continued training for redundant apprentices who have not been able to find another employer and for its own award trainees who have not been placed after their initial period of board-sponsored off-the-job training. These site projects are, of necessity, small scale operations to provide continued training for the limited number of unplaced trainees in an area. Any such project is subject to the approval of both sides of industry which normally restricts them to works which would not otherwise be undertaken.

Disabled Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish in the Official Report a table to show the numbers of disabled people registered at the employment offices in (a) Oldham, (b) Huddersfield, (c) Kirklees, (d) Greater Manchester and (e) West Yorkshire; and whether, for each case, he will express their numbers as a percentage of the total number of unemployed in that area.

The information requested is shown below. The figures are the latest available and are in respect of 11 December 1980.

Unemployed disabled people(registered as disabled)Percentage of total unemployed
(a)Oldham593 (303) 8·4
(b) Huddersfield750(248) 10·6
(c) Kirklees1,642(508) 11·6
(d) Greater Manchester9,462 (4,749) 7·6
(e) West Yorkshire8,122 (3,148) 9·1

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many firms in the areas served by employment offices in (a) Oldham and (b) Huddersfield are currently employing the 3 per cent. quota of registered disabled people under the Disabled Persons (Employment) Act 1944.

On 1 June 1980, the latest date for which information is available, 57 employers in Oldham and 108 employers in Huddersfield employed registered disabled people in a proportion of at least 3 per cent. of their work forces. These figures represent 42·5 per cent. and 41·5 per cent. respectively of all employers who were subject to the provisions of the quota scheme for the employment of registered disabled people in the areas served respectively by Oldham and Huddersfield jobcentres. The comparable figure for all such employers in Great Britain was 35·1 per cent.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many disabled people were unemployed in December 1980.

There were 165,624 disabled people registered as unemployed on 11 December 1980.

Dundee

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how the current percentage rate of unemployment in Dundee compares with the Scottish and United Kingdom rates.

At 15 January, the unemployment rate in the Dundee employment office area was 14·3 per cent. compared with 12·7 per cent. in Scotland and 10·0 per cent. in the United Kingdom. The figures are provisional.

Short-Time Working Compensation Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many jobs in the Huddersfield travel-to-work area and the Oldham travel-to-work area are currently being supported by the short-time working compensation scheme.

In the Huddersfield employment office area under the temporary short-time working compensation scheme there were 3,865 potentially redundant jobs being supported in December 1980. In the Oldham travel-to-work area there were 5,820.

Greater London

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the latest unemployment figures for Greater London.

At 15 January the provisional number of people registered as unemployed in Greater London was 242,410.

Brent

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the latest figures for unemployment and job vacancies for the area covering the London borough of Brent; and what were the equivalent figures for 1979.

At 15 January 1981, the provisional number of people registered as unemployed in the area covered by the Kilburn, Willesden and Wembley employment offices, which closely corresponds to the London borough of Brent, was 8,624. The corresponding figure at 11 January 1979 was 5,101.At 9 January 1981, the numbers of notified vacancies remaining unfilled at employment offices and careers offices in the area were 579 and 24, respectively. The corresponding figures at 5 January 1979 were 2,003 and 144. Vacancies notified to employment offices are estimated to be about one-third of all vacancies in the country as a whole. Because of possible duplication the figures for employment offices and careers offices should not be added together.

North Staffordshire

asked the Secretary of State for Employment further to his letter of 21 January to the right hon. Member for Stoke-on-Trent, South, what plans are being made by the Manpower Services Commission to expand its special measures in North Staffordshire; what is the specific increase in resources being made available; what are the resources; and what will be the extent of the increased financial aid he forecast.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what further discussions he has had about unemployment in North Staffordshire; and what other proposals he intends to make to increase job opportunities.

The Government are very much aware of the current level of unemployment in North Staffordshire. A substantial improvement in the employment situation there, however, as in other parts of the country, depends to a large extent on an upturn in world trade. In order to take advantage of this, it is essential that our industry must be at least as efficient as that of our competitors and this is one of the principal aims of Government policy.In the meantime, the Government's programme of special employment and training measures is providing assistance to many workers who would otherwise be unemployed. The latest estimate is that 828,000 people are currently being assisted through these measures in the country as a whole and, as my right hon. Friend announced in the House on 21 November 1980, there will be a major expansion of the programme in 1981–82.—[Vol. 994, c. 204–225.] North Staffordshire will, of course, réceive its share of this greatly increased provision which is a massive practical demonstration of the Government's concern for all unemployed people.

Disabled Advisory Committee (Kent)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will ensure that the Manpower Services Commission includes Dartford within the membership of the disabled advisory committee for the county of Kent.

Unemployment Levels (International Comparisons)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if, in his studies directed to relieving unemployment, he will carry out studies of the situation in Norway and Austria to identify the reasons why unemployment in those countries between 1972 and the present has risen much less than the United Kingdom and other European nations, particularly those in the European Economic Community.

My Department already takes note of how other countries deal with their unemployment problems. There are many and varied reasons why some countries do better than others, and Austria and Norway differ from us in many more significant ways than membership of the EC. The immediate lesson from any comparison with other countries is our need to develop trade links by improving competitiveness, containing public spending and reducing our rate of inflation.

Keighley

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many people in the Keighley travel-to-work area are unemployed; and how many have been unemployed for three months, six months, 12 months, 18 months and over two years, respectively.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many people in the Keighley travel-to-work area are supported by the temporary short-time working compensation scheme.

There were 1,444 potentially redundant employees being supported under the temporary short-time working compensation scheme in the Keighley employment office area in December 1980.

Farming Accidents

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many farming accidents necessitating three or more days off work took place in 1980; and how many fatal accidents took place in the same year.

In the nine months ended 30 September 1980, non-fatal accidents to agricultural employees necessitating more than three days off work totalled 2,955.In the same period there were 41 fatal accidents, including 16 to employees.The data are provisional. Figures for the fourth quarter are not yet available.

Ethnic Minority Groups (West Midlands)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many members of ethnic minority groups in (a) the Wolverhampton area and (b) the West Midlands were unemployed at the latest convenient date; if these can be broken down into sex and age groups; and how these figures compare with May 1979.

Job Seekers (Cut Price Bus Fares)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the legal and security reasons prompting the refusal of his Department to become involved in a scheme which is being promoted by the South Wales transport company to facilitate cut price bus fares for job seekers; and if he will make a statement.

I am not aware of any legal reasons. The security reasons involve the control of documents and authenticating measures which would also require additional staff resources. As I explained in my reply to the hon. Member for Swansea, East (Mr. Anderson), my officials are considering whether there are any alternative methods which could be administered by the bus companies.—[Vol. 997, c. 409.]

Disabled Persons (Quota Scheme)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether, as a result of the response to the discussion document on the quota scheme he plans to make any changes in the scheme; and when the results of the review will be published.

[pursuant to his reply, 27 January 1981, c. 375]: I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that the review of the scheme is nearing completion and that it hopes to make recommendations to me within the next few months.

Trade

Indonesia

asked the Secretary of State for Trade (1) what estimate he has made of the value of the export contracts permanently lost as a result of the recent trade dispute with Indonesia;(2) whether the suspension of United Kingdom exports to Indonesia has now been lifted.

Imports to Indonesia from the United Kingdom were not suspended but some opportunities in the field of public sector purchasing were lost during the period of the textile dispute. Normal trade relations with Indonesia have now been resumed. It is not possible to give a reliable estimate of the value of business which would have been obtained, but for the dispute.

Automotive Components

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will make a statement about the progress of his representations to Taiwan about the manufacture of counterfeit automotive components in that country; and what steps he is taking in collaboration with other EEC countries to prevent their import.

I expressed the concern of the Government in the House on 19 December, and I understand that the Taiwanese authorities are now introducing measures, including increased penalties and more rigorous enforcement, which they believe will be effective in stamping out counterfeiting. As I said in reply to the hon. Member for Keighley (Mr. Cryer) on 19 January, however, I will not be satisfied until these practices have in fact ceased. Meanwhile we are pressing for the finalisation of a GATT agreement to discourage the importation of counterfeit goods. This would have the effect of stiffening legislation on the seizure and confiscation of counterfeited imports. The Government are also considering what other measures they might propose to counter this menace.

Scotia Investments And Alco Metropolitan Properties

Lewis asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he will make a statement on his Department's inspector's report on the firms of Scotia Investments and Alco Metropolitan Properties; and, in view of the inspector's condemnation of the directors concerned, what action he proposes to take in connection with this matter.

The Department was advised by leading counsel that civil proceedings under its statutory powers were not warranted but the report is available to minority shareholders, loan stock holders, creditors and the Gaming Board to consider what appropriate action they may take.Since the events investigated occurred, the Companies Act 1980 has introduced more stringent controls over loans and similar transactions between directors and their companies.

State Controlled Assets

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he expects to make any further progress in privatising State controlled assets during the current year.

The only privatisation proposal for which my Department is responsible concerns British Airways. The Government announced on 13 October last year that because of difficult trading conditions in the international airline market it would not be possible to sell shares in British Airways during 1981.

Soviet Union

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what recent steps he has taken on trade with the Soviet Union: and if he will make a statement on the policy of Her Majesty's Government on trade with the Soviet Union.

There has been no change in the Government's policy that trade should continue to be developed where this is genuinely in the interest of both countries. To this end officials of my Department recently met Soviet officials to review actions under the 1975 United Kingdom /Soviet co-operation agreement.

Origin Marking

asked the Secretary of State for Trade when he intends to make and lay before Parliament the proposed order under sections 8 and 9 of the Trade Descriptions Act 1968 on the origin marking of certain consumer goods.

I made the order on 2 February and it was laid before the House today.

Tampons

asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he has yet decided what action to take on the report of the Monopolies and Mergers Commission on the supply in the United Kingdom of tampons; and if he will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend has decided to adopt the commission's recommendation that the Director General of Fair Trading should for a period of two years follow closely developments in the tampon market and that, to enable him to do so, he should take steps to obtain certain information from Tampax Ltd. and Southalls (Birmingham) Ltd.

Following discussions with the director general the companies have agreed to provide him with the information specified by the commission covering profits, prices, sales and advertising.

House Of Commons

Computer Services

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster (1) if he will arrange for the installation, on an experimental basis, of word processing apparatus in the Palace of Westminster for the use of hon. Members and the staff of the Palace;(2) if he will arrange for the installation, on an experimental basis, of information storage and retrieval apparatus compatible with a word processor to be available to hon. Members and the staff of the Palace.

These are matters within the remit of the Computer Sub-Committee of the Services Committee. I suggest that my hon. Friend places his proposals before the Sub-Committee.

Energy

British Gas Corporation

asked the Secretary of State for Energy whether he will announce any change to the British Gas Corporation's financial target on account of the levy to be imposed upon the corporation in respect of gas not subject to petroleum revenue tax.

I have agreed with the British Gas Corporation a revised financial target, expressed as an average annual rate of return to be achieved over the period April 1980 to March 1983, of 3½ per cent. on net assets valued at current cost. This target is related to current cost operating profit after taking account of depreciation but before interest and tax, and is subject to passage of the Gas Levy Bill. The revised target reflects the forecast effects of the proposed rates of levy and of the new current cost accounting standard on the target of 9 per cent. that was set on 16 January 1980. This revision of the target will not therefore affect industrial or domestic gas prices.

Home Department

Police Officers (Trial Delays)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, further to his reply to the hon. Member for Newham, North-West on 23 January, if, without incurring disproportionate costs, he will give any information which may be readily available with as much detail as possible concerning the number of police officers who have been or are awaiting trial for alleged offences for the longest stated period of time; how many of these have been or are in prison awaiting trial and for what periods of time; and what are the costs of such imprisonment.

Immigration

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) on what basis Sunny Stout, a United States of America citizen, was allowed to enter the United Kingdom and work at Anglia Television;

  • (2)why Mr. Patel from India was refused permission to enter the United Kingdom to see relatives;
  • (3)on what basis Mr. Rupert Murdoch, the newspaper proprietor, an Australian citizen, is allowed to remain in the United Kingdom;
  • (4)on what basis Mr. Dick Giodans, a United States of America citizen and chairman of British Oxygen Company, was allowed to enter and remain in the United Kingdom.
  • (5)why Mr. Ahmed from Pakistan was refused permission to enter the United Kingdom.
  • Decisions to admit or refuse entry to people subject to immigration control are taken in accordance with the Immigration Act and rules. It is not the normal practice to make public the reasons why individual passengers are admitted. Reasons for refusal are normally disclosed to people making representations on behalf of those concerned, but we cannot identify the two cases of refusal from the details given by the hon. Member.

    Salusbury Road, Kilburn (Fire)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he has received the report of the North London coroner into the deaths of women in the hostel at Salusbury Road, Kilburn, on 18 March 1980 in which he calls for hostels to be brought within the ambit of the Fire Precautions Act; what action he now intends to take; and if he will make a statement.

    The coroner has drawn my attention to his recommendation that urgent consideration be given to bringing hostels within the terms of the Fire Precautions Act 1971 or similar legislation. A recommendation to the same effect was made by the town clerk and chief executive of the London borough of Brent in his report on fire precautions relevant to this tragic fire. I studied that report with very great care, in consultation with other Ministers concerned, and announced my conclusions in a written reply I gave on 17 December to a question from my hon. Friend the Member for Hove (Mr. Sainsbury). I have nothing to add to that reply.

    Electoral Boundaries

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department for which counties he has, since 18 December, made orders for new electoral arrangements; and for which counties he has referred back to the Local Government Boundary Commission reports on electoral arrangements.

    Since 18 December, my right hon. Friend has made electoral arrangements orders for Avon, Cumbria, Hampshire, Kent, Lancashire, Northamptonshire and Warwickshire. He has not referred back to the Local Government Boundary Commission for England any of the county reports which it has submitted.

    Offensive Weapons

    Roberts asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) if he will make a study of publications detailing the manufacture of booby-traps, incendiary devices and other offensive weapons; if he will take steps to ban their sale; and if he will make a statement;(2) if he will make a study of publications from the United States of America and other countries detailing the manufacture of booby-traps, incendiary devices and other offensive weapons; if he will take steps to ban their entry; and if he will make a statement.

    It is for the police, in consultation as necessary with the Director of Public Prosecutions, to decide whether any action should be taken over any particular publication.

    Elections (Business Vote)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will publish in the Official Report the number of representations that have been made to his Department about the reintroduction of the business vote.

    This Department has received nine letters on this matter in the last 12 months, all of which have advocated the reintroduction of a non-residential voting qualification—or "business vote"—at local elections.

    Educational Background of Administration Trainee Entrants in 1979 and 1980
    This table shows the type of school attended, and the subject area of degree of Administration Trainees who took up appointment during 1979 and 1980
    SchoolDegree subjectNo degree
    Total entrantsMaintainedDirect GrantIndependentColl of FEOther/O/SeasArtsSocial SciencesScience and TechnologyOther
    1979
    External73401815491851
    In-Service3724751174610
    Total1106425201662211110
    1980
    External642416203140168
    In-Service312226117716
    Total9546182641572396

    National Finance

    Building Societies

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish statistics showing for each of the last 10 years (a) the number of building society branches, (b) the total of building society assets, (c) the total of building society assets at 1980 prices and (d) building society assets per branch at 1980 prices.

    Statistics are not yet available for 1980, but the four tables below show the relevant figures for each of the years 1970 to 1979.

    Civil Service

    Freedom Of Information Bill

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service (1) if he is satisfied that all official papers containing sensitive material relating to commercial and business matters would be adequately protected under the Freedom of Information Bill;(2) if he is satisfied that the work of the security and intelligence services could be adequately protected under the Freedom of Information Bill.

    No, I am not satisfied that the exemptions as drafted in schedule 1 to the Freedom of Information Bill covering commercial material of a sensitive nature, often given in confidence, and security and intelligence matters, provide adequate protection.

    Administration Trainees

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service if he will list the types of schools attended, and the degree subjects read, by Civil Service administration trainees entering the service in 1979 and 1980.

    The information requested is summarised in the following table. The 1979 figures appear, together with other analyses of the background of that year's administration trainee candidates and recruits, in the published report of the Civil Service Commissioners for 1979. The report for 1980 should be ready for publication by early in May.

    Table (a): Number of building society branch offices 1970–1979
    19702,016
    19712,261
    19722,522
    19732,808
    19743,099
    19753,375
    19763,696
    19774,130
    19784,595
    19795,147

    Notes:

    (1)Source of statistics: annual returns submitted by building societies to Chief Registrar of Friendly Societies.

    (2)Figures refer to branch offices staffed full-time by employees of building societies.

    3. Statistics for 1970 to 1974 leave out of account societies with assets not exceeding £1 million, and for 1975–1979 societies with assets not exceeding £2 million.

    Table (b): Total of building society assets 1970ߝ1979

    £

    197010,818,771,730
    197112,919,329,528
    197215,246,461,924
    197317,545,457,807
    197420,093,500,333
    197524,203,749,398
    197628,202,444,929
    197734,288,437,889
    197839,538,355,740
    197945,789,074,157

    Note: Source of statistics: annual returns submitted by building by building societies to the Chief Registrar of Friendly Societies.

    Table (c): Total of Building Society Assets 1970–1979, at 1980 Values

    £

    197039,027,498,019
    197142,585,339,957
    197246,913,559,036
    197349,483,820,574
    197448,835,539,519
    197547,348,135,877
    197647,339,177,134
    197749,680,555,337
    197852,898,348,090
    197954,024,961,321

    Note: Derivation: the figures in table ( b), converted to 1980 values by reference to the annual average of the general index of retail prices.

    Table (d): Building Society assets per branch office, 1970–1979 at 1980 values

    £

    197019,358,878
    197118,834,737
    197218,601,728
    197317,622,443
    197415,758,483
    197514,029,077
    197612,808,219
    197712,029,190
    197811,512,154
    197910,496,398

    Note: Derivation: the converted figures in table ( c), divided by the number of branch offices shown in table ( a).

    European Community Budget

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will give details for each European Economic Community country in 1980 of its agricultural levy contribution as a percentage of the total agricultural levy contribution to the European Economic Community, its percentage of Customs dues contributed, its receipts from the common agricultural policy as a percentage of total common agricultural policy disbursements and its percentage of total European Economic Community disbursements.

    Outturn information in respect of the 1980 Community budget is not yet available. The figures of agricultural levies and Customs duties from each member State as a percentage of the total shown below are derived from the 1980 Community budget estimates.

    Percentage contribution by member State
    Agricultural leviesCustoms duties
    Belgium9·56·7
    Denmark1·32·2
    Germany17·829·9
    France12·915·2

    Percentage contribution by member State

    Agricultural levies

    Customs duties

    Ireland0·41·1
    Italy22·310·9
    Luxembourg
    Netherlands14·09·2
    United Kingdom21·824·8
    Total100·0100·0

    Bl Limited

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether his decision to invest over £1,000 million in BL Ltd. will increase Government borrowing; and if so, by how much.

    Personal Incomes

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will set out in tabular form the net income, including child benefit where appropriate, of a single man, a married man and a married man with two children, on average national male earnings in each case, in October 1978, 1979 and 1980; and whether he will also show the increase in net income in real terms at October 1980 prices for each of the three categories.

    Department For National Savings

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what the effect on the Department for National Savings' cash limit will be of the decision to fund a significantly larger proportion of the public sector borrowing requirement through National Savings and the provision in the Finance Act 1980 to defund the National Savings Bank investment account from 1 January 1981.

    Subject to parliamentary approval of the necessary Supplementary Estimate the cash limit on Department for National Savings Estimate, Class XIII, Vote 11, will be increased by £3·5 million to £65,475,000. This is being met from the unallocated contingency reserve within the planned levels of public expenditure. The increase has three approximately equal components: additional publicity to help secure the additional funding from national savings; an appropriate reapportionment of expenses between the National Savings Bank and other services and the defunding of the investment account of the National Savings Bank. In the case of the last item, which accounts for £1·5 million of the £3·5 million increase, there is an equal offsetting reduction in debt interest.

    Attorney-General

    Council On Tribunals (Chairman's Salary)

    asked the Attorney-General on what basis the £10,222 per annum paid to the Lord Gibson-Watt as chairman of the Council on Tribunals is classified as a half-time appointment; and whether the chairman as well as the other members receives a £1,880 per annum as retainer.

    The chairman's remuneration is fixed at half the salary which would be payable if the work was full-time. He does not receive a retainer.

    Scotia Investments Limited

    asked the Attorney-General why, following his consideration of the evidence supplied by the Department of Trade's inspector's inquiry into Scotia Investments Ltd., the Director of Public Prosecutions has decided not to prosecute; and whether he will publish the evidence upon which the Director of Public Prosecutions formed his conclusions.

    In so far as the inspectors' report, which has already been published, revealed the possible commission of offences of fraud, the Director decided not to ask for police inquiries to be made after studying the report and taking leading counsel's advice. Police inquiries into possible offences under the Gaming Act have been carried out on the Director's advice, but have not yet been completed. No final decision on proceedings under this Act will be taken until the Director has received the police report.

    Mold Crown Court (Arson Trial)

    asked the Attorney-General what the total cost to the prosecution was in the case brought forward at Mold Crown Court following arson attacks on second homes in Wales; and what the total cost was of the trial.

    It would not be possible to ascertain the full prosecution costs or the total costs of the trial without a disproportionate expenditure of public money. Crown counsel's fees were £2,789 including VAT.

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    Departmental Sections (Alnwick)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food by what date he hopes to complete the transfer of the work of the travel claims and publications sections of his Department to Alnwick.

    Transfer of the work of the travel claims section began on 2 February and is expected to be completed by 6 April 1981. The work of the publications distribution section will be transferred later, as soon as the necessary storage arrangements at Alnwick have been completed, and I cannot yet give a firm date for this.

    Tate And Lyle, Liverpool

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what effect the closure of the Tate and Lyle Liverpool sugar cane refinery will have on trade in sugar cane with developing countries.

    The European Community is committed to buy and import 1·3 million tonnes of ACP sugar under the Lome convention. This commitment is not affected by the closure of Tate and Lyle's Liverpool refinery. Tate and Lyle has stated that it will endeavour to continue to take its present contracted amounts of ACP sugar, refining the bulk of these supplies at its two remaining refineries and selling any quantities of raw sugar that are surplus to United Kingdom requirements for refining and consumption in other European Community countries. The change in existing patterns of trade is therefore likely to be small.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, what analysis he has made of the effect of the proposed closure of the Tate and Lyle Liverpool refinery on the following industries: brewing, chocolate, sweets and confectionery and cakes and biscuits; and if he will make a statement.

    The United Kingdom is well supplied with sugar. Even with the closure of the Liverpool refinery imports of raw cane sugar and home production of sugar from beet will each meet nearly half of our needs. The remaining small amount required by our market is imported from other European Community countries although Tate and Lyle's sales to its customers are a commercial matter I understand that the company will remain national suppliers, and that its distribution facilities will be redeployed to provide an effective service to customers previously supplied from the Liverpool refinery.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what estimate he has made of the production capacity for refining cane sugar which will be available in the European Economic Community in the event of the Tate and Lyle refinery in Liverpool ceasing production; and if he will make a statement.

    Even after the closure of its Liverpool refinery Tate and Lyle's capacity could be about 1·1 million tonnes. Pure cane refineries, which already take some ACP sugar, exist in France and cane sugar can also be refined in beet factories, as it is in the Republic of Ireland. Tate and Lyle have said it hopes to have all the sugar it at present contracts for refined within the Community, and I can see no reason why this should not be possible. The Community commitment to puchase and import specified quantities of ACP sugar remains unchanged.

    Apple And Pear Development Council

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, pursuant to the reply given to the hon. Member of Dartford, whether he intends to increase the powers and funding of the Apple and Pear Development Council.

    I have already taken action. Parliament, at my request, approved two orders in 1980 which strengthened the powers and increased the funding of the Apple and Pear Development Council.

    Sugar Beet

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what was the production of sugar beet within the European Economic Community in each of the past five years; and what is the policy of Her Majesty's Government on future production levels of sugar beet.

    The following are the levels of total European Community beet sugar production for the past five years. Production within quotas is given in brackets.

    YearTonnes
    1975–769,374,657 (9,277,332)
    1976–779,623,994 (9,744,238)
    1977–7811,208,335 (10,414,910)
    1978–7911,532,568 (10,542,292)
    1979–8011,918,000 (10,931,000)

    Source: European Community Commission.

    Since Community production is in excess of its needs, the Government believe that total production quotas should be cut, and have made it clear that the United Kingdom would be prepared to bear its fair share of any such cut.

    Environment

    Dog Wardens

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many local authorities now employ dog wardens; and what discussions he has had with local authorities about improving and financing dog warden services.

    Employing dog wardens is a matter for local discretion, but I understand that around 100 local authorities do so. Both the local authority associations and individual authorities have made their views clear to us on the question of improving and financing dog warden services.

    Homes Insulation Scheme

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many grants have been paid under the homes insulation scheme in each of the last five years.

    Since the scheme was introduced in September 1978 the following numbers of grants have been paid by local authorities in England:

    • 215,000 in 1978–79
    • 377,000 in 1979–80 and
    • 111,000 in the first half of 1980–81.

    Homeless Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many households obtained accommodation under the Housing (Homeless Persons) Act in 1980.

    Statistics for the second half of 1980 are not yet available. In the first half of that year local authorities in England undertook to secure accommodation for 29,200 households under the Act. A copy of a press notice and tables giving details is in the Library. The figure for the whole of 1979 was 59,000.

    Low-Cost Home Ownership

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what response has been received to the Government's efforts to promote low-cost home ownership.

    Central to our low-cost home ownership policies is the right to buy, which has produced a very encouraging initial response. The same is true of our other recent initiatives. Inquiries made of local authorities in November 1980 indicated that a total of 165 were already developing at least one project of this kind in 1980–81:

    • 54 intended to sell land in their areas for starter homes.
    • 93 to licence the building of starter homes on their land.
    • 42 to improve homes for sale.
    • 50 to sell unimproved homes for improvement by the purchaser.
    • 20 to have shared ownership schemes.

    Council Houses (Sale)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the latest estimate of the number of applications to buy council houses under the Housing Act 1980 right-to-buy procedure.

    No firm estimate is yet available, but it is clear that many thousands of secure tenants have claimed the right to buy. I hope that the first statistics for all authorities in England will be available by April.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is aware of any difficulties being faced by tenants of some local authorities in exercising their right to buy.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave on 21 January 1981 to my hon. Friend the Member for Leek (Mr. Knox).—[Vol. 997, c. 198.]

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what representations he has received following his increase of £3·25 a week in council house rents.

    Some 200 letters on the subject of council house rent increases have been received since my right hon. Friend made his housing statement of 15 December announcing his subsidy decisions and assumptions for 1981–82.

    River Mersey (Pollution)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will set up an investigation to establish (a) the extent waste dumping and raw sewage outfall are polluting the River Mersey, (b) which areas of the foreshore are most affected and (c) what it would cost to clean up those areas of the foreshore in most urgent need of attention.

    No. This is a matter for the North-West water authority. Its most recent report on "A cleaner Mersey—the way forward" was published last September and a copy will be placed in the Library. I understand that the estimated cost of improving water quality in the estuary is £150 million at 1979 prices, of which about £90 million should be spent on cleaning up the affected foreshores on the Wirral and Liverpool banks.

    Council Houses (Condensation)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what research is presently being undertaken and what assistance is available from his Department to combat condensation in council houses.

    I shall be studying with the Building Research Establishment the report on its survey into complaints of dampness in council houses. Assistance is available in the form of guidance in domestic energy Notes 2 and 4 and leaflets for householders. Advice on individual cases can be obtained from the BRE advisory service.

    Housing Associations

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when next he expects to meet the chairman of the Housing Corporation to discuss the level of grants to the housing associations for 1981–82.

    I refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Brighton, Kemptown (Mr. Bowden) earlier to-day.

    Council House Rents

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he intends to take action to penalise those local authorities which refuse to increase council house rents by the amounts he has stipulated; and, if so, what action he intends.

    It is for each local authority to decide its own rent levels in the light of the housing statement made by my right hon. Friend on December 15 and of the provisions of the new subsidy system that commences on April 1.—[Vol. 996, c. 34-46.]

    Caravans

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is satisfied with the working of the Caravan Act 1975.

    Residents who have agreements under the Mobile Homes Act 1975 have security of tenure and the other benefits of the Act until the endg of 1983 at the earliest. Before then we shall decide whether fresh legislation is needed and, if so, what form it should take.I should welcome any views my hon. Friend cares to forward to me.

    Water Authorities

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement on progress in his monitoring of the work of the water authorities.

    The Government have set the regional water authorities tight external financing limits for 1981–82 and clear financial target for the three years 1981–82 to 1983–84. We are also in the process of agreeing with them performance aims for that three year period. We have impressed on them the need for close control of manpower numbers and intend to publish water authority figures quarterly along with those of the Department and other associated bodies. We are keeping up pressure on disposal of land, encouraging avoidance of waste and stimulating use of the private sector where practicable. We shall be receiving shortly the report of the Monopolies and Mergers Commission on the Severn-Trent water authority.

    Housing Corporation

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he has any plans to change the role and the procedures of the Housing Corporation.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Anglesey (Mr. Best) on December 19.—[Vol. 996, c. 568.]

    Enterprise Zones

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what progress he can report on the establishment of enterprise zones.

    Six enterprise zones have been announced in England and we shall be making a further statement in the next few days. In the case of Salford/Trafford, Dudley and Corby, the statutory procedures that lead to designation have already begun. Zones have also been annouced for Clydebank, Belfast and Swansea. In Swansea also the statutory procedures have begun.

    Transitional Grant Arrangements

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment which local authorities will now incur penalties under the transitional grant arrangements for 1980–81.

    I have nothing to add to the reply my right hon. Friend the Minister for Local Government and Environmental Services gave to the hon. Member for Lewisham, West (Mr. Price) on 27 January.—[Vol. 997, c. 397.]

    New Towns (Housing Maintenance)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he has yet reached an agreement with new town local authorities on the settlement of the section 10 claims for funds to cover the cost of making good defects and carrying out maintenance on houses transferred to them; and if he will make a statement.

    I have arranged to discuss this issue with the Association of District Councils later this month.

    Vacant And Waste Land

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he proposed to announce a further list of local authorities which will be required to publish a register of vacant and waste land.

    I announced the second list on 19 January. I have no immediate plans for a third.

    South Africa (Sporting Links)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement about British sporting links with South Africa.

    The Government have repeatedly made it clear that our attitude to sports contacts with South Africa rests firmly on the Commonwealth statement of 1977.

    Wales

    Dust Disease Research Centre

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales, in view of the proposals to close the only dust disease research centre in Wales, at Llandough hospital, near Cardiff, while employment opportunities for research scientists and technologists are scarce in Wales, what action he proposes to take; and if he will make a statement.

    I assume that the hon. Member is referring to the Medical Research Council's pneumoconiosis unit at Llandough hospital. I understand from my right hon. and learned Friend the Secretary of State for Education and Science, whose Department makes a grant-in-aid to the Medical Research Council, that no proposals to close this unit have been put to the council. I further understand that the council is fully aware of the need to maintain a proper capability for research on occupational lung diseases, and its policy remains to assist the unit in the effective pursuit of its research in this field.

    Young Persons (Employment)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales, in view of the active links between local industrialists and colleges of further education in Wales, if he will take steps to encourage industrialists to assist, through liaison groups, in the securing of some form of valid employment or training, subsequent to the students pursuing a Government training programme.

    The Manpower Services Commission is currently engaged in a series of initiatives, designed to improve the placing prospects of those taking part in the training opportunities scheme. These include close liaison with employers by way of after-care and follow-up. In addition most college courses include attachments with employers in order to provide essential work experience. Industrialists are already making a valuable contribution to the work of the Manpower Services Commission in this way and through membership of district manpower committees and special programme area boards. There are no plans at present for liaison groups of the type suggested.

    Steel Areas (Assistance)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales how much of the £48 million allocated for assistance to the steel areas in South Wales has been spent so far; and how much in each case and for what projects.

    Expenditure so far amounts to £12·6 million out of a total provision of £24·8 million for the financial year 1980–81 distributed as follows:

    £ million
    Llantarnam2·6
    Llanwem5·8
    Port Talbot4·2
    All figures quoted are at 1980 survey prices.The rate of expenditure is now rising and it is envisaged that the acquisition of industrial sites will also entail substantial further expenditure during the current financial year.Specific information on individual schemes at Port Talbot and Llanwern should be sought from the Welsh Development Agency.

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what plans he has for carrying over any unspent resources allocated to the steel areas of Wales which cannot be spent in 1980–81 to the following year; and whether that will affect the sums already allocated for 1981–82.

    I have no plans for carrying over unspent resources, if any, from 1980–81 to 1981–82. Public expenditure provision is accounted for on an annual basis.

    Local Authorities (Services And Functions)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will list in the Official Report details of those services and functions carried by local education authorities in Wales which (a) have been eliminated and (b) have been made discretionary since 3 May 1979.

    No services or functions carried out by local education authorities in Wales have been eliminated, but the following services are now provided on a discretionary basis:

    • Nursery education
    • School milk
    • School meals—subject to statutory protection for children from families in receipt of supplementary benefit or family income supplement.

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will list in the Official Report details of those services and functions carried out by local government in Wales which (a) have been eliminated and (b) have been made discretionary since 3 May 1979.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the reply given by my right hon. Friend the Minister for Local Government and Environmental Services on 2 Fabruary 1981. The position is the same in Wales.—[Vol. 998, c. 52.]

    Defence

    Royal Navy (Fuel Savings)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what saving will be effected as a result of the planned reduction in consumption of fuel, by th Royal Navy in the latter part of the current financial year.

    The planned reductions in fuel consumption constitute one of the measures designed to contain defence expenditure during this financial year. At this stage, therefore, I am unable to quantify precisely the likely saving from this particular measure.

    Recruitment Costs

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the total cost of recruitment campaigns for the Armed Services for each of the last five years; and what percentage of the cost was devoted directly to school campaigns.

    The expenditure on recruiting publications by the three Services for the last five complete financial years was as follows:

    ArmyRoyal NavyRoyal AirForce
    £thousands£thousands£thousands
    1975–76164123117
    1976–77139137101

    Army

    Royal Navy

    Royal AirForce

    £thousands£thousands£thousands
    1977–78154104115
    1978–79176127133
    1979–80262176154

    This included recruiting brochures, booklets, calendars, posters, magazines and diaries.

    Standby Squadron

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what ships and of what type and age will remain in the standby squadron after the sale or scrapping of the cruiser and seven frigates; and what ships it is now proposed should be transferred to the squadron.

    On present plans, two Rothesay class frigates, HMS "Berwick" and "Falmouth", both of which were launched in 1959, will remain in the standby squadron; the Leander class frigate HMS "Juno", which was launched in 1965 and is at present in the squadron, is expected to begin conversion to a new role later this year. Although a number of ships are expected to join the squadron over the next few years, details of future plans remain confidential.

    Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

    Tate And Lyle, Liverpool

    asked the Lord Privy Seal what representations the Overseas Development Administration has received from ACP countries following the announcement of the closure of the Tate and Lyle cane refinery in Liverpool; and if he will make a statement.

    The Government have received representations from the Prime Ministers of Mauritius and Fiji and from the High Commissioner of Guyana. The United Kingdom is committed to ensuring that the European Community's obligations under the sugar protocol to the Lomé convention are fulfilled. These obligations are not altered by the closure of the Tate and Lyle cane sugar refinery in Liverpool.

    Soviet Union

    asked the Lord Privy Seal what recent initiatives he has taken on cultural and other links with the Soviet Union; and if he will make a statement on the policy of Her Majesty's Government on relations with the Soviet Union.

    There has been no change in the Government's attitude to relations with the Soviet Union as announced to the House on 24 January 1980.—[Vol. 977, c. 655-60.] No major Anglo-Soviet cultural events have been held with Government support since the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. However, the biennial renegotiation of the 1959 Anglo-Soviet cultural agreement will take place at official level in Moscow next month. The new agreement, like its predecessors, will regulate and facilitate routine exchanges between people in the educational, scientific and cultural fields. These arrangements are in our interest and consistent with our objectives for the CSCE meeting in Madrid.

    South Africa

    asked the Lord Privy Seal what is the policy of Her Majesty's Government on proposals discussed at the United Nations on possible trade and other sanctions against South Africa; and if he will make a statement.

    The Government have not taken up a formal position on a question which we hope will not go beyond the stage of discussion. But we have consistently made it clear that we believe that sanctions would cause grave damage to the prospects for a negotiated settlement in Namibia and for peaceful change in Southern Africa. Sanctions would also create considerable problems for many countries, including countries in Southern Africa, as well as for the United Kingdom and other Western States. The Government remain committed to the existing mandatory United Nations arms embargo against South Africa.

    Gibraltar

    asked the Lord Privy Seal if he has been informed of any delays in the process of negotiation to implement the Lisbon agreement as a result of the resignation of the Spanish Prime Minister.

    Industry

    British Steel Corporation

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry (1) if he will, under section 5 (3) of the Iron and Steel Act 1975, require the British Steel Corporation to supply him with information as to how soon after the opening of the foundry at Distington, Cumbria in March 1980 the British Steel Corporation commenced an evaluation which, in December 1980, recommended closure of the same foundry;(2)if he will, under section 5 (3) of the Iron and Steel Act 1975, require the British Steel Corporation to supply him with information as included in all five inspection reports that relate to existing foundries within the British Steel Corporation;(3)if he will, under section 5 (3) of the Iron and Steel Act 1975, require the British Steel Corporation to (3)supply him with information as to why the unit costs in those foundries of the British Steel Corporation which are similarly equipped as to plant and process are not the same;(4)if he will, under section 5 (3) of the Iron and Steel Act 1975, require the British Steel Corporation to supply him with information concerning former investment in each of the foundries in the British Steel Corporation producing ingot moulds and bottom plates;

    (5)if he will, under section 5 (3) of the Iron and Steel Act 1975, require the British Steel Corporation to supply him with information as to the forecasts the British Steel Corporation has made with regard to the market for ingot moulds and bottom plates for the next five years;

    (6)if he will, under section 5 (3) of the Iron and Steel Act 1975, require the British Steel Corporation to supply him with information regarding the commercial forecasts and objectives of the British Steel Corporation for the Distington foundry at the time of the intended official opening of the foundry.

    No. Decisions on the future of individual BSC works, and commercial information related to such decisions' are matters for the corporation.

    Bl Limited

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry on what sales forecasts he based his decision to invest over £1,000 million in BL Ltd.

    The Government took into account all relevant factors in making their decision to provide further funds for BL. Details of the company's sales forecasts are commercially confidential.

    Department Of Industry (Education Section)

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will publish details of the cost, establishment and functions of the education section of his Department and indicate the Ministers to whom this section reports.

    The division concerned provides advice on the manpower requirements of manufacturing industry, and on education and training affecting these requirements. Within this responsibility the industry-education unit helps to support liaison between industry and education. The unit provides pump priming grants to help initiatives which aim to improve attitudes towards manufacturing industry amongst young people and encourage an interest in careers in manufacturing. The unit has an establishment of 12 staff, headed by an assistant secretary. The total cost this financial year is £992,000, of which £700,000 is for grants. On day-to-day matters the unit reports to me.

    Business Premises (Powers Of Entry)

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether the review of statutory powers to enter business premises has been completed; and if he will make a statement on its outcome.

    The review of statutory powers to enter business premises which the Prime Minister announced on 7 December 1979 has now been completed by all Departments. As a result Ministers have recommended that 30 powers should be revoked and up to 63 modified. Most of these recommendations will be carried out in the normal course of departmental legislative programmes. I am satisfied that the remaining powers are necessary, are sufficiently circumscribed and contain adequate safeguards to ensure that they do not cause unwarranted intrusion into business premises. The scope for introducing more uniformity into the safeguards, possibly in the form of a coding practice, will be examined again in the light of the findings of the Keith committee on enforcement powers of the Revenue departments. Arrangements are being made to scrutinise centrally all future legislation containing powers of entry to ensure they do not impose an undue burden on business.

    Howden Glucose Company Limited

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry what conditions, imposed under section 4 (2) (a) of the Industry Act 1972 on the payments of regional development grant to Howden Glucose Company Ltd. in 1976 and 1978, still apply in respect of its Howdendyke premises, near Goole.

    [pursuant to his reply, 3 February 1981]: None. Although one payment of grant was not made until 1978, the assets concerned were all provided more than four years ago and are therefore no longer subject to conditions.

    Scotland

    Highlands And Islands Shipping Services

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give assistance similar to that recently provided for three shipping companies serving the Scottish Islands to other companies trading regularly with the islands.

    During the debate on the undertakings with Shetland Line, Hay and Company and Glenlight Shipping Ltd, on 19 January—[Vol. 997, c. 108-127]—my hon. Friend emphasised that it was the Government's purpose to assist the users of services to the Islands and not to assist any particular company. It has been made clear to interested companies and to the General Council of British Shipping that it is open to any company which feels that it has services eligible for assistance under the Highlands and Islands Shipping Services Act 1960 to approach me to have its case considered.

    Unemployment (Dundee)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many companies in Dundee have ceased operation since May 1979; and if he will name them and the number of jobs lost and the number of other jobs since the same date, listing the number of establishments involved.

    Comprehensive information on redundancies and closures is not available. Between 1 May 1979 and 28 January 1981, 20 instances of redundancy involving 10 or more people and resulting in factory closure have been notified to the Manpower Services Commission as having taken place in Dundee, with the loss of 791 jobs. In the same period another 51 firms have notified redundancies affecting 3945 workers. Information on closures and redundancies is given to the Manpower Services Commission in confidence and the names of companies cannot therefore be divulged.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish a table showing the number and percentage of those unemployed in Dundee in both May 1979 and at present; if he will classify those unemployed by percentage in the following groups: (a) unemployed for up to one year, (b) unemployed for between one and two years and (c) unemployed for over two years and below three years; and if he will provide a similar breakdown for the May 1979 unemployment figures in Dundee.

    Information is not available in the precise form requested. In May 1979 unemployment in Dundee was 8,109–8·4 per cent.—and in January 1981 13,959–14·3 per cent. These figures are not seasonally adjusted. The following table gives information on the duration of unemployment of those registered as unemployed in October 1980—the latest date for which information is available—and for April 1979—the nearest date to May 1979 for which information is available.

    Unemployment in Dundee analysed by duration
    October 1980April 1979
    Total No.Percen-tage ShareTotal No.Percen tage Share
    Up to 1 year9,50275·96,01772·3
    1–2 years1,51212·11,22614·7
    Over 2 and under 3years6074·94976·0
    3 years and over8937·1 5877·0
    Total12,514100·08,327100·0

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish a table showing how many people in Dundee are unemployed by age group giving the corresponding percentages; if he will provide a similar breakdown for both males and females; and if he will provide a table giving the figures in each standard industrial classification order.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish a table showing the number of registered vacancies in Dundee by standard industrial classification order.

    The following table gives the number of notified vacancies remaining unfilled in Dundee at 13 November 1980, the latest for which an industrial analysis of unfilled vacancies is available. These figures do not purport to be a measure of all vacancies in Dundee. Because of possible duplication between the vacancies notified to the employment office and the careers office the two figures should not be added together.

    Unfilled Vacancies: Dundee
    Standard Industrial ClassificationEmployment OfficeCareers Office
    Agriculture, Forestry, Fishing
    Mining and Quarrying
    Food, Drink and Tobacco7
    Coal and Petroleum Products
    Chemicals and Allied Industries16
    Metal Manufacture
    Mechanical Engineering2
    Instrument Engineering
    Electrical Engineering5
    Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering32
    Vehicles4
    Metal Goods not elsewhere specified1
    Textiles1

    Standard Industrial Classification

    Employment Office

    Careers Office

    Leather, Leather Goods and Fur
    Clothing and Footwear32
    Bricks, Pottery, Glass, Cement, etc.
    Timber, Furniture, etc. 5
    Paper, Printing and Publishing1
    Other Manufacturing Industries1
    Construction12
    Gas, Electricity and Water2
    Transport and Communication70
    Distributive Trades1062
    Insurance, Banking, Finance and Business Services7
    Professional and Scientific Services60
    Miscellaneous Services41
    Public Administration and Defence374
    Total4426

    Terrorists (Extradition Proceedings)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many persons wanted by the police in Scotland in connection with terrorist murders and other terrorist offences are now reported to be in the Republic of Ireland; how many such are now reported to be in other foreign countries; and what requests for extradition have been made.

    In Scotland crimes are not separately classified by motive, and terrorist murders or other offences are therefore not specifically recorded as such. One person, who was arrested in 1973 in the Republic of Ireland on a Scottish warrant relating to an offence claimed to have been committed on behalf of the Irish Republican Army and who successfully appealed against extradition, is believed still to be in the Republic. No other warrants have been issued, and no other requests for extradition have been made, in similar circumstances.

    Schools (Vandalism)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the annual cost of vandalism in primary and secondary schools.

    Farmers (Income)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was (a) the average money income which his Department estimates was earned by Scottish farmers in 1975, 1978 and 1980 and (b) the equivalent in terms of the value of the £ sterling in 1975.

    Farming income in Scotland is estimated at £131 million in 1975, £114 million in 1978, and £33 million in 1980. When adjusted in terms of the general index of retail prices to 1975 values, the figures for 1978 and 1980 become £78 million and £17 million, respectively.In 1980, farming income was shared among about 14,000 full-time and 9,000 part-time working occupiers, as compared with 16,000 full-time and 9,000 part-time in 1975.

    Blood Lead Levels

    Ross asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many representations the Scottish Home and Health Department has received claiming that high lead levels in blood may be associated with mental retardation in children.

    Only one private individual has made representations on this subject to my Department. There have, however, been several reports about it.

    Ross asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will fund a joint project between Tayside health board and the environmentas health department of Dundee district council to monitor the blood lead levels in babies and children in Dundee.

    Surveys to monitor blood lead are continuing under the EEC directive on the biological screening of the population for lead. In the absence of prima facie evidence of high exposure to lead, the taking of blood samples among babies and children in Dundee for the purpose of monitoring blood lead levels would be inappropriate on ethical grounds.

    Lead Levels (Water Supply)

    Ross asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the level of lead in parts per million in the water supply of Dundee district; and how that compares with the safety level recommended by the EEC.

    There is no lead in the water supplied to Dundee district. However, the supplies are plumbosolvent and, after running through lead pipes, may contain lead; Dundee's supplies have therefore been treated for plombosolvency since 1971. Sampling of water at consumers' taps has shown that lead levels are normally low and well within the levels required by the EEC directive on the quality of water for human consumption. No single figure can be given as levels vary from house to house depending on factors such as the presence and extent of lead piping, the length of time water has stood in the pipes, and the location of the house in the water distribution system.

    Urban Programme

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he has yet completed his review of the Urban programme; and if he will make a statement.

    I received views from a number of voluntary and statutory organisations. I have decided that the urban programme should continue to assist local authorities to tackle multiple deprivation in urban areas though, as hitherto, it must be complementary to, and not a substitute for, positive discrimination in authorities' main programmes. I intend to use the programme primarily to mobilise voluntary and private sector resources to assist local authorities in their task. The criteria, priorities and limits listed below will govern applications for grant. The Scottish Development Department will shortly issue a circular to this effect to local authorities.

    The Urban Programmes In Scotland Criteria, Priorities And Amount Of Grant

  • 1. Projects should be for, and normally in, multiple deprived areas or areas at risk; their effect should be focused on such areas rather than diffused more widely. Projects whose capital cost exceeds £0·2 million will not normally be considered.
  • 2. Projects should be new, should offer practical and tangible results and should be cost-effective.
  • 3. Projects should not lead to a net increase in the overall number of staff employed by the authority.
  • 4. Priority will be given to:—
  • a. projects not to be run directly by the local authority;
  • b. projects which are part of a comprehensive scheme of rehabilitation in an area;
  • c. projects which encourage and stimulate local initiatives;
  • d. wealth-creating rather than wealth-consuming projects; and
  • e. innovative projects.
  • 5. Projects which employ local authority staff will normally be limited to authorities whose staff numbers show a clearly downward trend, and priority will be given to:—
  • a. projects which generate a significant input of resources from the private and—or voluntary sectors;
  • b. projects where the local authority staff will be required only for the period of the grant and not thereafter;
  • c. projects requiring both a professional job specification and a need for close links with equivalent professional staff already employed by the authority; and
  • d. innovative projects.
  • 6. Research projects are not excluded in principle, but will not normally be acceptable unless they are in the nature of field research for innovative or experimental ideas.
  • 7.Period of grant: grant for subjects which involve running costs will be offered initially for three years, and exceptionally for five years. Applications for an extension to the approved period may be made, but no project undertaken directly by a local authority will receive grant for more than five years, and no project for more than seven years.
  • 8. Amount of grant: grant will be paid at the rate of 75 per cent, ofapproved cost. However, in the case of a project undertaken directly by a local authority and receiving grant towards running costs during year 4—or any project receiving grant during year 6—the approved cost for the purpose of calculation of grant in that year shall not exceed 60 per cent, of the total project cost in the year. Similarly in the succeeding year 5—or year 7—the approved cost shall not exceed 30 per cent, of the total project cost.
  • Employment

    Youth Opportunities Programme (Staffordshire)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what extra funds and staff will be forthcoming in North Staffordshire to enable the local special programmes area board to provide sufficient places to meet the Government's undertakings under the youth opportunities programme.

    Short-Time Working

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list in rank order the 27 industries in the standard classification according to the percentage of the work force on short-time working.

    Information is available only for operatives in manufacturing industries. The following table gives, for manufacturing orders of the standard industrial classification, the percentages of operatives in Great Britain who were on short-time working either for the whole or for part of the week ended 15 November 1980, the latest date for which information is available.

    Per cent.

    Vehicles22·3
    Metal manufacture20·5
    Metal goods not elsewhere specified18·8
    Textiles15·3
    Clothing and footwear14·9
    Other manufacturing industries14·2
    Leather, leather goods and fur12·9
    Mechanical engineering 11·9
    Electrical engineering11·2
    Timber, furniture, etc. 10·7
    Bricks, pottery, glass, cement, etc. 9·3
    Instrument engineering7·1
    Paper, printing and publishing4·5
    Chemicals and allied industries3·9
    Food, drink and tobacco2·8
    Coal and petroleum products2·3
    Shipbuilding and marine engineering0·7

    Redundancies

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list in rank order the 27 industries in the standard classification according to the percentage of their work force made redundant during 1980.

    The number of employees involved in redundancies of 10 or more confirmed as due to occur in these groupings of industry between January and June 1980, which is the latest period for which figures are available in this form as a percentage of the numbers employed as at December 1979, gives the following rank order:

  • 1—Textiles (Order XIII)
  • 2—Metal Manufacture (Order VI
  • 3—Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering (Order X)
  • 4—Clothing and Footwear (Order XV)
  • 5—Other Manufacturing Industries (Order XIX)
  • 6—Leather, Leather Goods and Furs (Order XIV)
  • 7—Mechanical Engineering (Order VII)
  • 8—Vehicles (Order XI)
  • 9—Timber, Furniture, etc. (Order XVII)
  • 10—Electrical Engineering (Order IX)
  • 11—Bricks, Pottery, Glass, etc. (Order XVI)
  • 12—Metal Goods not elsewhere specified (Order XII)
  • 13—Food, Drink and Tobacco (Order III)
  • 14—Instrument Engineering (Order VIII)
  • 15—Construction (Order XX)
  • 16—Chemicals and Allied Industries (Order V)
  • 17—Paper, Printing and Publishing (Order XVIII)
  • 18—Distributive Trades (Order XXIII)
  • 19—Transport and Communication (Order XXII)
  • 20—Miscellaneous Services (Order XXVI)
  • 21—Insurance, Banking, etc. (Order XXIV)
  • 22—Agriculture, Forestry, Fishing (Order I)
  • 23—Gas, Electricity and Water (Order XXI)
  • 24—Mining and Quarrying (Order II)
  • 25—Public Administration and Defence (Order XXVII)
  • 26—Professional and Scientific Services (Order XXV)
  • 27—Coal and Petroleum Products (Order IV)
  • Peterlee And Wingate

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many (a) men and (b) women are registered as unemployed in the areas covered by the Peterlee and Wingate employment offices; and what percentage unemployment rates each category represents.

    At 15 January, the provisional numbers of males and females registered as unemployed in the Peterlee travel-to-work area were 2,613 and 1,313, respectively. The unemployment rates were 15·1 percent, for males and 13·2 per cent, for females.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many registered disabled (a) men and (b) women are registered unemployed in the areas covered by the Peterlee and Wingate employment offices; and what percentage unemployment rates each category represents.

    Short-Time Working

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is his latest estimate of the number of people working short time for (a) three days and (b) four days a week.

    The precise information is not available. Statistics of short-time working relate to the numbers of operatives in manufacturing industries who in a selected week in each month are on short-time working either for the whole or for a part of the week.During the week ended on 15 November 1980, the latest date for which the information is available, there were 528,000 operatives in Great Britain on short-time working, of whom 502,000 were working for a part of the week.

    Redundancy Payments

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) what criteria were used to determine which companies were in financial difficulties under the Employment Protection (Consolidation) Act 1978; and what checks were made to establish whether the criteria were being met;(2) what was the average interest rate, if any, that was charged to companies which made repayment under section 106(3) of the Employment Protection (Consolidation) Act 1978;(3)what was the average length of time which lapsed before repayment was made by employers under section 106(3) of the Employment Protection (Consolidation) Act 1978;(4) how much money was recouped in 1980 under section 106(3) of the Employment Protection (Consolidation) Act 1978;(5)how many payments were made in 1980 by the redundancy payments fund in accordance with section 106(1) and 106(2) of the Employment Protection (Consolidation) Act 1978; and what was the total paid out under these provisions;(6) how many redundant persons were covered by sections 106(1) and 106(2) of the Employment Protection (Consolidation) Act 1978 in 1980.

    During 1980, 42,757 employees received a total of £34,930,000 in redundancy payments made direct from the redundancy fund under section 106 of the Employment Protection (Consolidation) Act 1978. Such payments are made where an employer can provide, through a bank statement or auditors' report, proof of his inability to make statutory redundancy payments or where an employee cannot obtain payment of an industrial tribunal award; all applications are rigorously scrutinised. The employer's share of the payment is recovered as far as, and as soon as, his resources permit. In 1980 the amount recovered totalled £1,698,184. No interest is charged on these payments.

    Wages And Salaries (Cheshire)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what, at the latest available date, is the average annual increase in wages and salaries in each travel-to-work area within the county of Cheshire.

    Information on wages and salaries for individual travel-to-work areas is not available. For adults in full-time employment in establishments within Cheshire the average increase in gross weekly earnings—where earnings were not affected by absence—-between April 1979 and April 1980 shown by the new earnings survey was 23·7 per cent, for men and 24·0 per cent, for women.

    Military Training

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what consideration the Government are giving to a proposal that young people on the youth opportunities programme should receive some military training in uniform.

    [pursuant to the reply, 29 January 1981, c. 480]: No proposal on these lines has been submitted to the Manpower Services Commission, which administers the youth opportunities programme. However, the Ministry of Defence, which has been a sponsor under YOP since 1978, is considering what further help it might offer unemployed young people and we are in discussion with it about this.

    North Staffordshire

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment, further to his letter of 21 January to the right hon. Member for Stoke-on-Trent, South, what plans are being made by the Manpower Services Commission to expand its special measures in North Staffordshire; what is the specific increase in resources being made available; what are the resources; and what will be the extent of the increased financial aid he forecast.

    [pursuant to his reply, Official Report, 3 February 1981]: Annual plans for special programmes for the unemployed—the youth opportunities programme for unemployed young people and the special temporaruy employment programme for certain unemployed adults—are prepared by area boards which cover convenient geographical areas.I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that Wolverhampton area board, which has jurisdiction over North Staffordshire, in common with all others in Great Britain has no specific budget of its own. Budgets were allocated to area boards as part of the planning process during the first year of special programmes. For subsequent planning years area boards have been asked to prepare plans which would meet the needs of unemployed young people, both in size and type of provision.Detailed plans for YOP in 1981–82 have not yet been completed. The community enterprise programme replaces the special temporary employment programme in April 1981 and will be available nation-wide. The national target for this programme is 25,000 filled places by April 1982. Regional targets have yet to be determined but Midlands region is likely to be asked to achieve a target of around 3,000 filled places by April 1982. It is not possible to predict where in a region sponsors will be found or where schemes will operate.

    Disabled Persons (Dartford)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will ensure that the Manpower Services Commission includes Dartford within the membership of the DAC for the county of Kent.

    [pursuant to his reply, 3 February 1981]: Last autumn the Government accepted the advice of the Manpower Services Commission to implement the recommendations of the national advisory council on employment of disabled people that the present 220 disablement advisory committees should be replaced by committees for employment of disabled people and by recognised local contacts giving practical help to MSC's disablement resettlement officers.In its report the council recommended that the local organisation of the MSC's district manpower committees should be taken into consideration in setting up CEDP. MSC has therefore decided that CEDPs—to be set up on 1 April 1981—will cover the areas as DMCs, the boundaries of which are drawn up in relation to local labour markets and MSC's field organisation. Dartford will be in the area of the London (South) CEDP. The employment interests of disabled people in Dartford will be further represented by recognised local contacts in the immediate area.

    Keighley

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many people in the Keighley travel-to-work area are unemployed; and how many have been unemployed for three months, six months, 12 months, 18 months and over two years, respectively.

    [pursuant to his reply, 3 February 1981]: At 15 January, the provisional number of people registered as unemployed in the Keighley employment office area was 3,269. The numbers who had been on the register for the lengths of time specified were as follows:

    Number on Register
    Up to 13 weeks1,207
    Over 13 and up to 26 weeks792
    Over 26 and up to 52 weeks593
    Over 52 and up to 78 weeks190
    Over 78 and up to 104 weeks65
    Over 104 weeks184

    Note:

    The figures in the table do not include 238 young people registered at the Keighley branch careers office who are included in the duration analysis for Bradford.

    Social Services

    Sexually Transmitted Diseases

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the numbers of reported new cases of (a) males and (b) females for each recorded category of sexually transmitted disease by age group as follows: under 16, 16 to 19, 20 to 24, 25 years and over.

    Information is not available in the precise form requested. Analysis of the figures by age group is available only for primary and secondary syphillis and post-pubertal gonorrhoea. Following is the information on new cases of sexually transmitted diseases in England—with analysis by age group where available—for 1979—the last full year for which this information is available:

    TotalMaleFemale
    SYPHILLIS
    Primary and Secondary
    Under 16 years22
    16 to 19 years1237449
    20 to 24 years 28524045
    25 years and over1,1101,01694
    Total—all ages ,520,330190
    Latent in the first two years of
    infection 968807161
    Cardio-Vascular 5313
    Of the nervous system 15235
    All other late and latent stages1,180798382
    Congenital aged under two years 1349
    Congenital aged two years and over115 4075
    Total 4,0013,136865
    GONORRHOEA
    Post-pubertal gonorrhoea
    Under 16 years 38582303
    16 to 19 years 10,315 4,3295,986
    20 to 24 years18,456 11,1237,333
    25 years and over 25,869 19,4566,413
    Total—all ages55,025 34,99020,035
    Pre-pubertal infection14311
    Ophthalmia neonatorum 23815
    Total 55,062 35,00120,061
    OTHER SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED
    DISEASES (all ages)
    Chancroid42375
    Lymphogranuloma venereum 30 2010
    Granuloma Inquinale30 1911
    Non-specific genital infection
    (NSG 1) 102,39080,64421,746
    NSG 1 with arthritis 456 43620
    Trichomoniasis 19,511 1,58917,922
    Candidiasis 39,700 8,05131,649
    Scabies 2,076 1,671405
    Pediculosis pubis 7,478 5,1942,284
    Genital herpes 8,854 5,4633,391
    Genital warts 24,490 15,7038,787
    Genital molluscum 968627341
    Other treponemal diseases 1,086 731355
    Other conditions requiring
    treatment in a centre 49,555 29,45420,101
    Other conditions no requiring
    treatment in a centre 99,813 61,94437,869
    Other conditions referred
    elsewhere 2,242 1,350892
    Total 358,721 212,933145,788
    OVERALL TOTAL 417,784 251,070166,714

    Departmental Research Funds

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he intends devolving to regional health authorities of the National Health Service some of the Department of Health and Social Security's research fund, as recommended in the latest Office of Health Economics publication.

    As the Office of Health Economics document "Health Services Research in England" records, responsibility for funds held by the Department for research undertaken locally by health authorities in England was transferred in 1978 to regional health authorities, which can now decide on their own programmes of locally organised research. I do not read the document as recommending the transfer of further health and personal social services research funds from the Department to the field and my right hon. Friend has no plans to do so.

    New Born Infants

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he intends to arrange further medico-legal discussions with a view to amending the law as it relates to research on new born infants.

    As indicated in paragraph 167 of Cmnd. 8084, the Government would look to the medical profession to initiate any such discussions in the light of the complex ethical issues involved; but would be ready to consider any proposals put to them by the appropriate professional bodies.

    Homoeopathic Medicines

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how the Medicines Act operates in respect of traditional homoeopathic medicines; which such medicines have been restricted; what restrictions have been applied in respect of the manufacture and supply of such medicines in granule form; and if he will give the reason for each restriction.

    The general controls applied to medicinal products under the Medicines Act 1968 do not discriminate against homoeopathic medicines or their manufacture or supply. Restrictions on the retail sale or supply of medicines reflect recommendations of the Medicines Commission in the interests of safety. I shall look into any specific details the hon. Member may send me.

    Sick And Disabled Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what approach he has received from the Royal Association for Disability and Rehabilitation asking him to take action to force local authorities to carry out their duties under various Acts dealing with the sick and disabled; and whether he will publish this communication and his reply thereto in the Official Report.

    I am aware of the project undertaken by RADAR to look at allegations that some local authorities are not fulfilling their duties under the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act 1970 but I have had no correspondence with it about any particular case.

    Depo-Provera

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will update the information on the adverse side effects of the short-term use of Depo-Provera; if he will now ask the Committee on Safety of Medicines to examine data on adverse side effects of this drug from reputable individuals and organisations; and if he will make a statement;(2) if he will publish in the

    Official Report the publications, the authors, size of samples, period of study,

    population background and nationality which clear Depo-Provera as a safe long-term contraceptive for mothers and their offspring up to child-bearing age; and if he will make a statement.

    I refer the hon. Member to my right hon. Friend's reply to the hon. Member on 22 July 1980 and my reply on 4 November 1980.—[Vol. 989, c. 199–201; Vol. 991, c. 546.] Depo-Provera is not licensed in the United Kingdom as a long-term contraceptive, but, as the hon. Member is aware, the licensing authority is considering an application for this use. I have asked the Committee on Safety of Medicines (CSM) to consider the points the hon. Member raised but it would be inappropriate to ask it to consider anecdotal evidence from either individuals or organisations.Since my reply to the hon. Member on 10 December 1980—[Vol. 995, c. 666]—the CSM has received one additional report of suspected adverse reaction associated with Depo-Provera; this related to an injection site reaction.

    Mobility Allowances

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many reviews of people receiving mobility allowances are conducted each month; what is the monthly cost; what is the average length of time people have their allowance suspended whilst the review is taking place; what percentage of the reviews result in loss of allowance; and if he will make a statement.

    Reviews of mobility allowance awards are carried out by medical boards whenever a report suggests that the claimant may no longer satisfy the medical conditions for the allowance. Such cases form only a small minority of those dealt with by medical boards. I regret that there are no separate figures for these cases and that the information requested is not, therefore, available.

    Attendance Allowances

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many reviews of people receiving attendance allowance are conducted each month; what is the monthly cost; what is the average length of time people have their allowance suspended whilst the review is taking place; what percentage of the reviews result in loss of allowance; and if he will make a statement.

    The attendance allowance board and its delegates review 1,800 cases each month on average, but the vast majority of these are instigated by the claimant, usually because his condition has worsened or he is dissatisfied with the decision. I regret that there are no separate figures for reviews where the allowance is in payment and that the information requested is not, therefore, available.

    Family Income

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish a table using the same basic assumptions as in his reply to the hon. Member for Norfolk, North Official Report, 27 October 1980, column 193, and for each of a single person, a married couple and couple with two children, showing net weekly spending powers (a) when working normally and earning £55, £75, £95, £105 and £125 a week, (b) when working short time for three days a week and (c) when working short time for four days week.

    I am sorry the information my hon. Friend has requested is not readily available. I shall let him have full reply as soon as possible.

    Hospitals (Private Capital)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what representations he has had concerning his Department's new circular on allowing hospitals to attract private cash; what action he intends to take; and if he will make a statement.

    I have received representations from the National Council for Voluntary Organisations, the Association of Community Health Councils and several voluntary bodies and I am considering the comments made.

    Supplementary Benefit

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what plans he has to review the arrangements concerning the liability of certain individuals to maintain others for whom supplementary benefit is paid.

    The supplementary benefits review report "Social Assistance" listed the liability of relatives as one of the subjects to be looked at at a later stage when the overhaul of the basic scheme had been completed. That stage has been reached with the introduction of the revised scheme from 24 November.At present the Supplementary Benefits Act imposes a liability upon spouses to maintain one another and on parents to maintain their children under the age of 16. My right hon. Friend is empowered to seek maintenance orders in magistrates' courts, or in the sheriff court in Scotland, and there is also a power of criminal prosecution for persistent refusal or neglect to maintain. These provisions generally enable cases to be dealt with satisfactorily.The principles for bringing to account maintenance payments received by supplementary benefit recipients have been scrutinised as part of the main review and the rules have recently been published in the Supplementary Benefit (Resources) Regulations (SI 1980 No. 1300). No further change is contemplated at present.In these circumstances my right hon. Friend has decided that it would not be appropriate for the DHSS to conduct a wide-ranging review of the principles of liability, though we do not, of course, rule out changes in the law if the need arises. There is evidence, however, that there is scope for improving the Department's administrative procedures in relation to the recovery of benefit from relatives who are liable to repay it—in most cases men living apart from their wives and children. I have arranged for a thorough examination of all these procedures to be carried out.

    Testing Of Drugs

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what proposals are being circulated, and to whom, in connection with simplifying safety testing of drags before limited trials can begin in humans; if consultations are to be held before the proposals are accepted; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 3 February 1981]: The proposals are for the data required in support of an application for a clinical trial certificate to be related more closely to the extent and purposes of the particular trial. Organisations representative of the pharmaceutical industry, the professions and consumer interests have been invited to comment before decisions are taken by the licensing authority. Copies of the Department's consultation letter dated 21 January, reference MLX 130, have already been placed in the Library. A full list of organisations consulted is annexed to that letter.

    Friedreich's Ataxia

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many cases of Friedreich's Ataxia are known in the United Kingdom.

    [pursuant to his reply, 18 December 1980]: Information about the number of cases of Friedreich's Ataxia is not collected centrally. However, during 1978 in England and Wales there were estimated to be fewer than 100 spells of hospital in-patient treatment for this condition. I am now informed that the Friedreich's Ataxia Group estimates that there are about 1,000 cases in the United Kingdom.

    Education And Science

    Devon

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the total reduction in the proposed increase of expenditure for Devon county education committee for the year 1981.

    It is for Devon county council to decide how its overall budget is divided between services, and my Department has no information regarding that decision.

    University Of London

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how much income he estimates will be lost to London University from (a) Government cutbacks and (b) increased charges to overseas students leading to a reduction in numbers enrolling in the current financial year and the years 1981–82 and 1982–83; and whether he proposes additional financial help.

    The universities' recurrent grant for the academic year 1980–81 represented level funding for home students and overseas students admitted in 1979–80 or earlier. As announced by right hon. and learned Friend, on 16 December 1980 there will be a reduction in universities' current expenditure for the financial year 1981–82 of about 3½ per cent. It is hoped to make an announcement about grant for the academic year 1981–82 and to give an indication of grant for later years shortly after the publication of the Government's expenditure White Paper.The allocation of the Government's grant to universities, including London University, is entirely a matter for the University Grants Committee, which takes account of the special circumstances of each university.

    For the academic year 1980–81 my right hon. and learned Friend was able to make the sum of £5 million available to help universities in adjusting to the policy of full cost fees for overseas students; of this some £3·75 million was allocated to London University by the University Grants Committee.

    Northern Ireland

    Local Authorities (Services And Functions)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will list in the Official Report details of those services and functions carried out by local education authorities in Northern Ireland which (a) have been eliminated and (b) have been made discretionary since 3 May 1979.

    No services provided by education and library boards in Northern Ireland have been eliminated since 3 May 1979. Under the Education (Northern Ireland) Order 1980, which came into operation on 18 January 1981, the provision of nursery education by boards, which was previously mandatory, has been made discretionary.

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will list in the Official Report details of those services and functions carried out in the name of local government in Northern Ireland which (a) have been eliminated and (b) have been made discretionary since 3 May 1979.

    I know of no statutory services or functions carried out by district councils in Northern Ireland which have been eliminated or become discretionary since 3 May 1979.

    Fat Cattle

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland whether his Department has received any evidence of the smuggling of fat cattle from the Republic of Ireland into Northern Ireland in recent weeks; and if he will make an estimate of the difference in value of fat cattle between the Republic and Northern Ireland at the present time.

    [pursuant to his reply, 3 February 1981, c. 106]: I am aware of the reports of smuggling of fat cattle. Customs and Excise officials have been active in identifying and taking action in respect of animals suspected of evading the monetary compensation amount (MCA) levy, which is payable on importation into Northern Ireland from the Republic.The current difference in prices reported from the Irish Republic and Northern Ireland is approximately equal to the United Kingdom MCA, that is £13·21 per 100 kg. liveweight.

    Environment

    Olympic Games

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what support Her Majesty's Government are giving to the Council of Europe's resolution advocating Greece as the permanent site for the Olympic Games.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Torbay (Sir F. Bennett) on 12 January last.

    Empty Dwellings

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will give an approximate estimate of the cost to ratepayers in lost rate revenue incurred by those local authorities which have kept over 1,000 dwellings empty for over a year.

    The cost to ratepayers in rate revenue lost by local authorities with over 1,000 empty dwellings during 1979–80 was approximately:

    AuthorityNumber of empty dwellings Lost rate income £000
    Camden1,080346
    Lambeth1,189355
    Southwark1,196299
    Hackney1,267340
    Knowsley1,400268
    Islington1,401437
    Manchester1,869439

    Mobile Homes

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what representations he has received on the workings of the Mobile Homes Act 1975 since it came into force; and what changes he proposes to make to strengthen the law as a result.

    The mobile homes review report published in 1977 indicated that a considerable number of representations were made around the time the Act came into operation. During the last six months some 50 letters have been received, mostly concerned with the prospects of further legislation when agreements under the Act begin to expire at the end of 1983. In this connection I would refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Newbury (Mr. McNair-Wilson) earlier today.

    Housing Investment Programme

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many representations he has received since his announcement of the housing investment programme allocation for 1981–82.

    By 27 January, representations had been received from, or on behalf of, 10 of the 367 housing authorities in England, to the effect that their provisional allocations for 1981–82 were insufficient.

    Council House Rents And Rates

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the estimated effect on council rents in the city of Liverpool as a result of Government directives.

    Since decisions on rent levels remain the statutory responsibility of local housing authorities, I refer the hon. Member to the city of Liverpool for information on what decisions it has taken.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment further to his statement, Official Report, 16 December 1980, column 218, what he regards as reasonable levels of increases for ratepayers in the Greater London area.

    It would be premature at present to try to predict rate levels; and it would be inappropriate to give any guidelines as to what might be a reasonable increase for London authorities because their circumstances vary so much, and in each case can only be properly weighed up by the authority itself. I can say, however, that if authorities fail to make expenditure cuts of the order the Government have indicated they may well find themselves having to make quite unreasonable rate increases.

    House Of Commons Services (Select Committee Report)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects to reply to the Fourth Report of the Select Committee on House of Commons (Services) of Session 1979–80.

    Rating System

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will make a statement on his progress in reviewing the rating systems; and what alternatives to domestic rates are under active consideration.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will produce a discussion paper on the Government's proposals for the reorganisation of the rating system.

    I refer my hon. Friends to the answer I gave earlier today to my hon. Friend the Member for Leek (Mr. Knox).

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what representations he has received urging him to reform the domestic rating system; and if he will make a statement.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave earlier today to my hon. Friend the Member for Leek (Mr. Knox). I have received many representations from a wide range of individuals and organisations.

    Housing Policies

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will hold discussions with housing authorities in Greater London, and the London Boroughs Association on future housing policy in the Metropolitan area.

    My hon. Friend, the Minister for Housing and Construction, has offered to meet the London Boroughs Association to discuss the association's report on the future of London's housing. My officials hold regular meetings with individual local authorities to discuss their housing policies and programmes.

    Improvement Grants

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what are the latest figures for public and private sector dwellings improved with the aid of an improvement grant or subsidy; and how these compare with the previous five years.

    Latest estimates of numbers of dwellings renovated with the aid of grant or subsidy in 1978, 1979 and the first three quarters of 1980 are published in "Housing and Construction Statistics Part 2, No. 3" (table 2.15). Corresponding figures for 1975–1977 are in "Housing and Construction Statistics, 1969–79" (table 87). Copies are available in the Library.

    Planning Procedures (Costs)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what representations he has received about the costs imposed by local authorities for handling applications for both planning permission and building consent.

    No charges are yet being levied for planning applications but proposals for such charges were the subject of a consultation paper issued in June 1980. Nearly 400 replies were received, and most of these made constructive, detailed observations. Draft regulations will shortly be laid.Representations have been received from both sides of industry about the operation of the present building regulations fees scheme, and proposals for a revised scheme were circulated for comment on 19 December 1980.

    Homeless Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he has now completed his review of the Housing (Homeless Persons) Act 1977; and if he will make a statement.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the reply given by my hon. Friend the Minister for Housing and Construction to the hon. Member for Isle of Wight (Mr. Ross) on Tuesday 27 January 1981.—[Vol. 997, c. 397.]

    Partnership Committees

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will give his reasons why the private sector is not included in the membership of the partnership committees concerned with urban problems.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the answer that I gave earlier today to my hon. Friends the Members for Newcastle-upon-Tyne, North (Sir W. Elliott) and Wirral (Mr. Hunt).

    Rate Support Grant

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he intends to have further discussions with the local authority associations on the rate support grant.

    I last met the local authority associations at the Consultative Council on Local Government Finance meeting on 22 January. I expect to have regular meetings with them throughout the year as part of the normal consultations leading to the 1982–83 rate support grant settlement.

    Palace Of Westminster (Lift Attendants)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many lift attendants are employed within the Palace of Westminster; how many of these are disabled; and whether there has been any recent change in their deployment.

    Eleven lift attendants are employed, all of whom are registered disabled. The only change in deployment was caused by the need to man the lift in St. Stephen's House from the end of 1979.

    Property Services Agency

    asked the Secretary of State for the Emvironment if he is satisfied with the objectivity of his MINIS investigation of the Property Services Agency.

    The comprehensiveness of the MINIS exercise inevitably involves a degree of subjectivity of valuation and assertion by officials. But the material provides the basis for more objective judgments to be made by Ministers and others concerned with overall management.

    Vacant Land

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what criteria were applied in selecting the initial list of local authorities designated to prepare registers of vacant land; and if he will make a statement on the progress made.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment on what basis the local authorities designated to prepare registers of vacant land, were chosen.

    I am asking public bodies in the 33 districts and London boroughs which initially are to have registers to provide me with information about relevant sites in time to have it available for public inspection from April.The areas being designated initially are a representative sample. In choosing them I have had particular regard to the amount of under-used public land and the ready availability of information.

    Housing Investment Programme

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will now make any estimate of the sums likely to be available, at constant prices, for capital investment in public sector housing during each of the next three financial years.

    On 15 December last I announced to the House the provision of £2,810 million at estimated outturn prices for gross capital expenditure on public sector housing in 1981–82.—[Vol. 996, c. 34–46.] On the relative shares of current and capital expenditure for housing in 1982–83 and 1983–84,1 refer the hon. Member to paragraph 11 of section 2.1 of the White Paper on the Government's expenditure plans, Cmnd. 7841, March 1980.

    Housing Corporation

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when next he expects to meet the chairman of the Housing Corporation to discuss the level of grant for 1981–82.

    I refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply I gave my hon. Friend the Member for Brighton, Kempton (Mr. Bowden) earlier to-day.

    Council Houses (Sales)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is satisfied with the progress being made under the Housing Act 1980 right-to-buy provisions.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Leek (Mr. Knox) on January 21—[Vol. 997, c. 198.]

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what material effect the Government-sponsored campaign on the sale of council houses has had on actual sales.

    The effect of the Department's publicity campaign on sales under the right to buy cannot be qualified numerically. Its object, which was achieved, was to inform millions of tenants of the existence of the right to buy, to explain to them how and on what terms the right could be exercised, and to tell them where further particulars could be obtained.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he is satisfied with the speed at which those 2,800 council house tenants who wish to buy their council houses in Sheffield are able to do so; and what consideration he has given to the possibility of calling in a commissioner.

    I understand that the majority of applicants in Sheffield have been receiving responses to their claims to exercise the right to buy within the time limits laid down by chapter 1 of the Housing Act 1980. I am, however, concerned by the lack of subsequent progress in the making of valuations. My Department is currently pursuing this point with the council. Under section 23(1) of the Housing Act 1980 the Secretary of State may intervene where it appears to him that tenants may have difficulty in exercising the right to buy effectively and expeditiously, and my right hon. Friend is accordingly following progress with right to buy applications in the city very closely.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what action he is taking against those local authorities who refuse to sell council houses.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Dartford (Mr. Dunn) on 26 January.—[Vol. 997, c. 338.]

    Rate Support Grant

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what contribution the rate support grant settlement for 1981–82 will make towards the reduction of inflation.

    If local authorities budget and rate in line with our provisions for local government spending in 1981–82 and thereby reduce the demand which they make on national resources and their ratepayers, the rate support grant settlement will contribute towards the further reduction of inflation.

    Vacant Dwellings

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is his estimate of the number of empty dwellings in England and Wales at the latest date for which figures are available.

    The housing investment strategies and plans—HIP—bids from local authorities for 1981–82 indicate around 650,000 empty dwellings.The situation regarding Wales is a matter for my right hon. Friend, the Secretary of State for Wales.

    Earth Tremors (Wickersley)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will ensure that detailed investigations are carried out to establish the cause of the series of earth tremors which has been experienced in the parish of Wickersley.

    The Institute of Geological Sciences has established a network of monitoring stations to provide a general picture of seismic activity in the United Kingdom. More detailed investigations of individual areas may be required from time to time to supplement the information obtained from this network, and the possibility of providing mobile facilities for this purpose is currently under examination. The institute is already collecting information about the recent activity in the Wickersley area, and I will write to the hon. Member when this is available.

    Stansted Airport (Public Inquiry)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will give further consideration to the question of costs in the forthcoming public inquiry into the Stansted airport, with a view to making the said costs a charge on national rather than local funds.

    Water Industry

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he is aware of the possibility of a strike in the national water supply industry; and if he will take action to assist in resolving this industrial dispute and the prevention of the consequences of such a strike.

    I have been aware of the possibility of industrial action in the water industry but I understand that the pay negotiations, in which the Government play no part, were resumed on Tuesday 3 February.

    Housing Demand

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the total demand for housing in England and Wales as foreshadowed in county structure plans already approved; and by how much this figure falls short of requirements estimated by his Department for selected dates.

    No aggregate figure for housing demand in England and Wales has been prepared by my right hon. Friend on the basis of approved structure plans. The Government's views on projections of housing demand were set out in its reply—Cmnd 8105—to the First Report from the Environment Committee in paragraphs 6–9.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the overall shortfall in housing estimates contained in county structure plans due to the failure of adjoining counties to correlate their requirements; and whether he proposes to give authorities any directions under section 7 of the Town and Country Planning Act 1971 to adjust their estimates.

    I am not at present aware of any such shortfall but I am keeping the situation under review. I do not rule out the possibility of making directions but I have no proposals to do so at present.

    Community Services

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish in the Official Report details of any schemes known to his Department which involve local authorities agreeing to accept commercial sponsorship for the provision of community services for which that authority is responsible; and if he will make a statement.

    I am aware that certain local authority activities are sometimes sponsored by private firms. Details of such schemes are not available centrally. It is the Government's wish to encourage the development of co-operation between local authorities and industry and commerce in whatever form is appropriate, but decisions on these matters must rest with the local authorities.

    Sporting Occasions (Attendance)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will take steps to ensure equality of opportunity for people from all parts of the United Kingdom to attend sporting occasions.

    Arrangements for sporting occasions, including ticket distribution, are entirely the responsibility of the promoters and the governing body of the sport concerned.

    House Building

    asked the Secretary of State for Environment what number of housing starts in the public sector were made in 1980.

    The figures available to date are to the end of November 1980. It is provisionally estimated that 51,100 public sector dwellings were started in Great Britain during the first 11 months of 1980.

    North-Eastern Housing Association

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is satisfied with the present structure of the North-Eastern housing association.

    The North-East housing association ceased to exist on 1 October 1980, but its successor association—the North housing association—is now registered with the Housing Corporation which is statutorily responsible for the supervision and control of all registered housing associations.

    Homlessness (False Claims)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what evidence he has of unscrupulous tenants giving false information in order to plead homelessness and thereby jumping housing queues.

    Allegations of abuse have been made from time to time. The issue is one which we are considering as part of the review of the operation of the Housing (Homeless Persons) Act 1977, which we hope to complete in the near future. It is, of course, an offence to give false information to a local authority for the purpose of obtaining accommodation under the Act.

    House Purchase (Mortgages)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment, what are the numbers of (a) council houses and (b) houses being bought on mortgage.

    It is estimated that on 1 April 1980 local authorities in England owned approximately 4·95 million housing revenue account dwellings. In addition, at the end of 1980 approximately 95,800 dwellings were in the rented stock of new town corporations. It is estimated that at the end of 1979 there were 10,047,000 owner-occupied dwellings in England. In 1977–78, an estimated 57 per cent. of such dwellings were being purchased with the help of a mortgage according to the national dwelling and housing survey.

    Housing Costs

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the total effective revenue cost, and cost per house, of (a) subsidies at all levels to council housing and (b) mortgage interest relief.

    The provisional total of Exchequer subsidies and local authorities' rate fund contributions to housing revenue accounts in 1979–80 in England was £1,988 million including rent rebates, equal to £400 per dwelling. The United Kingdom total of mortgage interest relief plus option mortgage subsidy in 1979–80 is estimated at £1,640 million, equal to £250 per mortgaged dwelling.

    Local Authority Electorates

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will give his best estimates of the following figures (a) the local authority electorate, (b) the number of domestic ratepayers, (c) electorate or spouses and so on who are domestic ratepayers and average voters per household, (d) the numbers on rate rebate, (e) electorate or spouses and so on on rate rebate, namely, (d) and average voters per household, (f)council tenants not on rate rebate and (g) electorate who are council tenants or spouses and so on not on rate rebate, (h) local authority workers, (i) local authority workers who are domestic ratepayers but are not council tenants or in receipt of rate rebate, using standard proportions if there is no more sophisticated means of calculation, (j) electorate or spouses and so on at (i) above, (k) local authority electorate who are effected by rate increases and who are not in a position to be favourably helped by increases in local government expenditure (that is (c) less (e), (g)(j)) and (l) the local authority electorate which bears the cost of rate increases (that is (k) divided by (a)), providing percentages throughout where appropriate.

    The information required, so far as it is available is as follows:—

  • (a) I refer to my answer of 20 January to my hon. Friend.—[Vol. 997, c. 112-14.]
  • (b) As (a).
  • (c) The average number of electors per household is 2·06.
  • (d) As (a).
  • (e) Not available.
  • (f) 3·0 million.
  • (g) Not available.
  • (h) As (a).
  • (i)(l) Not available.
  • Palace Of Westminster

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what was the total sum spent last year on repairs, alterations, furniture, fittings, carpets, and for similar purposes in the Palace of Westminster; and what was the total spent for similar purposes over the last 10 years.

    The total sums of expenditure by the Property Services Agency for these items on the parliamentary estate over the last 10 years are shown below at outturn prices. These figures include major new works services on Norman Shaw (North) and the underground car park. Separate information relating solely to the Palace of Westminster is not available.

    Bracketed figures show approximate expenditure at 1980 prices
    1970–71£606,795 (£2,752,000)
    1971–72£1,068,628 (£4,260,000)
    1972–73£2,026,853 (£6,381,000)
    1973–74£3,109,890 (£9,011,000)
    1974–75£4,325,259 (£9,683,000)
    1975–76£3,852,069 (£7,244,000)
    1976–77£3,548,123 (£6,103,000)
    1977–78£2,913,062 (£4,602,000)
    1978–79£3,827,024 (£4,959,000)
    1979–80£5,243,762 (£6,341,000)

    Greater London Council

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether it is his intention to seek legislation to extend further the boundaries of the Greater London Council to include North-West Kent amongst other areas adjacent to the existing Greater London Council's boundaries; and if he will make a statement.

    No. The Local Government Act 1972 provides for the Local Government Boundary Commission to review the boundary of Greater London, but not before 1984.

    Homesteading Scheme (Ealing)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will approve the London borough of Ealing's homesteading scheme.

    My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment, in exercise of his powers under section 110(12) of the Housing Act 1980, has today approved the application by the London borough of Ealing to waive the interest payments on mortgages granted for homesteading for up to three years. This scheme will encourage first-time buyers to purchase and improve council-owned properties which are vacant and in need of repair.

    Shared Ownership Leases

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether his Department has completed its discussions with the Building Societies Association over model clauses for inclusion in shared ownership leases; and what benefits will arise from the clauses.

    The model clauses are being sent this week to all local authorities, new towns and to the Housing Corporation. They have been endorsed by the Building Societies Association, and their inclusion in shared ownership leases should improve the likelihood of building society mortgages being made available for shared ownership purchasers. Such mortgages have an important public expenditure advantage over mortgages granted by authorities themselves because they generate an immediate cash receipt which can be used to increase housing investment programme allocations.The Building Societies Association's endorsement of the model clauses represents a significant step forward for shared ownership and will help to bring home ownership within reach of those for whom up to now it has been impossible.

    Local Authority Expenditure

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish in the Official Report the total rate and grant borne expenditure of each local authority in England and Wales in 1980–81, consistent with column 55 of the Chartered Institute of Finance and Accountancy's "Financial, General and Rating Statistics", taking account of changes following the Government's request for revised budgets during the summer of 1980.

    [pursuant to his reply, 15 December 1980, c. 74–80]: Following is the information:

    £000 (Outturn Prices)
    Official ReportLocal AuthorityDeleteSubstitute
    Column 74Suffolk166,482164,242
    75Gwynedd79,18478,806
    75Kirklees105,886109,687
    75Trafford61,73461,403
    75Hammersmith and Fulham47,73046,117
    76Bromley84,93384,477
    76Allerdale5,4555,441
    76Cambridge4,0104,016
    77Crawley4,4824,479
    77East Devon3,8063,786
    77Fylde2,9743,115
    79South Wight2,3272,309
    80Windsor and Maidenhead4,3424,242
    80Llanelli5,7235,548

    Transport

    Heavy Lorries

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport, in view of the fact that the United Kingdom is the only member State in which a heavy lorry of over 200 horsepower has been developed to meet the European Economic Cummunity Council of Ministers' target noise level of 80dB (A) or under by 1985, whether the United Kingdom will accept this Community plan by that date.

    I hope to make a statement soon on the reductions in noise levels which I think we and other member States should be aiming for over the next 10 years or so. The pioneering work done in this country on the quiet heavy vehicle project has certainly demonstrated the potential for considerable improvements with the heavier vehicles. I am now considering in the light of the very useful response to the consultation document I issued on this subject last year what noise limits are technically and economically feasible in production and when we can start to introduce them.

    State Controlled Assets

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he expects to make any further progress in privatising State controlled assets during the current year.

    I am determined to make the fastest possible progress in this area. Terms have been agreed for the disposal on new long leases of three-quarters of all motorway service areas in England and I am confident of maintaining good progress on the remainder. I intend to return the National Freight Company Ltd. entirely to the private sector as soon as practicable. Progress on British Rail's subsidiary businesses and on the British Transport Docks Board depends on the first place on enactment of the Transport Bill now before the House.

    Midland Link Motorways

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether any further evidence of structural failure has been discovered on the elevated sections of Midland link motorways; and if he will make a statement.

    The principal inspections of the elevated sections of the Midland link motorways are continuing and the following defects have been recently reported:

  • a. cracking in the deck slab carrying a slip road at Gravelly Hill Interchange;
  • b.deterioration of reinforced concrete crossbeams at Gravelly Hill.
  • Investigation of these defects is proceeding but there is no immediate risk to the structure.

    Industry

    State-Controlled Assets

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he expects to make any further progress in privatising State-controlled assets during the current year.

    Arrangements have been completed for the offer for sale by Kleinwort, Benson Limited on behalf of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Industry of up to 100 million ordinary shares of 50p each of British Aerospace Public Limited Company at 150p per share, payable in full on application. The offer for sale has been underwritten by Kleinwort, Benson Limited, Hill Samuel and Co. Limited, Morgan Grenfell & Co. Limited and J. Henry Schroder Wagg & Co. Limited.

    The prospectus will be advertised in the newspapers on Monday 9 February 1981, and will be placed in the Library on that day. Application lists will open at 10.00 am on Friday 13 February 1981.

    Of the ordinaiy shares being offered for sale 66,666,667 are new Ordinary Shares which my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Industry has agreed to subscribe at the offer price and which will be paid for out of the proceeds of this offer for sale, thus raising £100 million of new equity capital for British Aerospace PLC.

    The Government have made arrangements for each employee of British Aerospace PLC who is eligible under the terms of the British Aerospace employee share ownership scheme to be offered, free of cost and at the Government's expense, 33 ordinary shares—worth approximately £50—to be held on his behalf by the trustees of the scheme. In addition, the Government have arranged for up to 2,178,990 ordinary shares to be available to eligible employees for purchase at the offer price—subject to a limit of 600 ordinary shares per employee and to scaling-down in the event of over-application by such employees; each employee who purchases shares under this arrangement and vests them in the trustees will then have appropriated to him, free of cost and at the Government's expense, an equal number of ordinary shares to be held on his behalf by the trustees. In addition, preferential consideration will be given to applications received from all employees at the offer price; and so far as possible, the Government's intention of promoting the widest possible ownership of shares will be taken into account when making allocations in the event of over-subscription.

    Immediately after the offer for sale the Government will hold the same number of shares as. are sold under the offer for sale—that is, between 48·37 per cent. and 50 per cent. of the issued share capital of the company—the balance of the issued share capital being those shares acquired by or on behalf of the eligible employees under the special arrangements which I have described.

    In order that British Aerospace PLC should remain under the control of citizens of the United Kingdom and Colonies, the articles of association of the company restrict the number of foreign-held shares at any one time to 15 per cent. of all voting shares in issue.

    It is intended to meet the costs of the sale from the receipts. A Supplementary Estimate will be submitted to seek parliamentary authority for this.

    The following is the text of a letter which has been written by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Industry to the chairman of British Aerospace PLC concerning the future relationship between Her Majesty's Government and the company.

    Dear Sir Austin,

    HM Government as customer

    There will be no change in the relationship between the Ministry of Defence as customer and the Company as contractor consequent upon the Offer for Sale. British Aerospace is, and will continue to be, treated by the Ministry of Defence in accordance with the same criteria as other United Kingdom defence contractors with contracts awarded to meet United Kingdom defence requirements either by tender or, in the case of non-competitive contracts, subject to the profit formulae and post-costing arrangements agreed by HM Government and the Confederation of British Industry.

    HM Government as shareholder

    Following the Offer for Sale HM Government will have a shareholding of between 48·37 per cent. and 50 per cent. of the issued share capital of the Company, depending on the number of shares acquired by or for the benefit of the employees of British Aerospace under the special arrangements relating thereto. HM Government is prohibited by section 7 of the British Aerospace Act 1980 from using its powers under that Act to increase the proportion of Ordinary Shares it holds following the Offer for Sale. The only other relevant provisions under which HM Government might acquire shares in the Company are contained in Part II of the Industry Act 1972 as amended by the Industry Acts 1975 and 1980. Any acquisition made under those provisions would not be subject to the limit imposed by section 7 of the British Aerospace Act 1980 on the proportion of Ordinary Shares which may be held by HM Government. However, HM Government could only acquire shares under those provisions if the Company itself sought financial assistance and if the Secretary of State was satisfied that such assistance could not, or could not appropriately, be provided otherwise than by him.

    Following the Offer for Sale HM Government does not intend to sell any more of its shareholding in the Company for the foreseeable future. HM Government has also made it clear that, in any event, it intends to retain a shareholding conferring more than 25 per cent. of the voting rights ordinarily exercisable in general meetings.

    HM Government does not intend to use its rights as a shareholder to intervene in the Company's commercial decisions. It would be repared to use its voting rights in cases where it wished to prevent an alteration to the provisions of the Company's Articles of Association relating to United Kingdom control, to the nationality of the Directors or to Government Directors. It might also wish to vote its shares in opposition to a resolution proposing the election of a Director believed to represent foreign interests. It does not expect to vote its shareholding in opposition to a resolution supported by a majority of the Board in other circumstances, although it retains the power to do so.

    Under the Company's Articles of Association HM Government has the right to appoint two non-executive Directors to the Board and HM Government has now appointed Mr. K. M. Bevins and Mr. K. Durham as Government Directors. The Government Directors have no special powers and their duties, like those of all directors, are to the Company as a whole. The Government Directors are generally not entitled to vote at any Board meeting on any issue relating to a contract or proposed contract with the Company to which the Crown (or a person acting on behalf of the Crown or a company of which the share capital is wholly-owned by or on behalf of the Crown) is a party.

    Sales support

    The support of HM Government in relation to overseas sales will continue to be available to British Aerospace on the same basis as to other United Kingdom companies. Where there are in existence Memoranda of Understanding between HM Government and overseas governments relating to contracts entered into by British Aerospace, HM Government's undertakings under these Memoranda of Understanding will continue to be honoured. The Offer for Sale will not cause HM Government to change its criteria for entering into new Memoranda of Understanding. Existing facilities provided by the Export Credits Guarantee Department will be unaffected by the Offer for Sale. The Export Credits Guarantee Department will be prepared to consider applications from the Company for further facilities in exactly the same way as it would consider applications from any other company.

    Airbus Industrie

    HM Government reached an understanding, embodied in Principles of Co-operation established in 1978, with the governments of France and Germany to support the Corporation's participation as a full member of Airbus Industrie from 1st January, 1979 and to stand behind the Corporation in the discharge of its financial obligations to Airbus Industrie. These Principles now apply equally to the Company. HM Government has informed the French and German governments that the change in legal constitution and ownership of British Aerospace brought about by the British Aerospace Act 1980 and the Offer for Sale will in no way weaken the support of HM Government for participation by British Aerospace in the Airbus programme.

    HM Government finance

    The Company will have the same eligibility for government finance as other companies in the private sector, and as the Corporation's predecessor companies had prior to nationalisation. The principal statutes likely to be relevant are the Civil Aviation Act 1949, under which HM Government may give assistance for the design, development and production of civil aircraft, and the Industry Act 1972 (as amended), under which HM Government may give assistance to provide employment in the assisted areas or in the national interest. Any application for such government finance will be treated on its merits, and will be subject to the general guidelines and financial limits that may apply at any time in relation to the relevant statute.

    Creditors

    Persons who were creditors of the Corporation and its wholly-owned subsidiaries immediately before 1st January 1981, the date on which the undertakings of the Corporation vested in the Company, are protected by section 9 of the British Aerospace Act 1980. This section provides that outstanding liabilities of the Corporation, which at the date of vesting became liabilities of the Company, or which may become liabilities of the Company under section 8 of the Act, will be discharged by the Secretary of State in the event of the Company being wound up except merely on a reconstruction or amalgamation. Under section 8 of the Act, the Company is liable for the judgment debts of companies which became its wholly-owned subsidiaries on the day of vesting where the cause of action arose before that day.

    These provisions do not apply to obligations entered into by the Company or its wholly-owned subsidiaries after the date of vesting. Except as provided in section 9 of the Act, HM Government will have no commitment to meet the debts of the Company or its subsidiaries after the Offer for Sale.

    Yours sincerely,

    Keith Joseph.