Written Answers To Questions
Thursday 30 April 1981
Trade
Anthracite And Coal (South Africa)
asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will take steps to place an immediate ban on the import into the United Kingdom of anthracite and coal from South Africa.
Such a ban would not be consistent with our international obligations, but the Government have agreed that the National Coal Board should seek to reduce all imports of coal to the irreducible minimum.
Japanese Cars
asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether, since Japanese cars exceeded 10 per cent. of the United Kingdom market in 1980, he will take steps to ensure that the 1981 share is reduced by the amount by which the 1980 target was exceeded.
I shall reply to my hon. Friend as soon as possible.
Manchester Airport
asked the Secretary of State for Trade what effects he expects the planned £400 million expansion of Stansted airport to have on the further development of Manchester international airport; if he or another Minister in his Department will meet the airport authority in Manchester to discuss its view of the effects of expanding Stansted; and if he will make a statement.
The Government have fully demonstrated their commitment to the further development of Manchester international airport as the major international gateway airport outside the South-East of England by their recent approval of a substantial programme of capital investment at the airport. My Department already works closely with the airport authority on such matters and will continue to do so.The proposed development of Stansted airport is designed to meet the forecast growth in demand for air transport in the London area. The implications of these proposals will be considered at the forthcoming public inquiry. It is therefore not necessary, nor would it be proper, for me to discuss the effects—if any—of the Stansted proposals with the Manchester airport authorities.
Petrol Pumps
asked the Secretary of State for Trade what is his estimate of the total number of petrol pumps in the United Kingdom; how many have digital meters; and how many can price petrol up to (a) 99p only, (b) £1·99 only, (c) £2·99 only and (d) £4·99 only.
[pursuant to her reply, 27 April 1981, c. 336.]: I estimate that there are approximately 100,000 petrol pumps in the country, of which about 30,000 have digital displays. Of the total, approximately 60,000, or 60 per cent., cannot price petrol at more than 99p per gallon without modification. At £1·99, 60 per cent. of the pump population would have to resort to quarter price posting. I regret that the information on pumps capable of coping with petrol at prices up to £2·99 and £4·99 per gallon is not available.
Scotland
Teacher Training
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he has taken a decision on the number of students to be admitted to courses of teacher training in the Scottish colleges of education in session 1981–82; and if he will make a statement.
My provisional views on the arrangements for intake to teacher training courses in session 1981–82 were contained in a consultative paper which was issued in March to the General Teaching Council for Scotland, the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities and the Joint Committee of Colleges of Education in Scotland as a basis for discussion. After carefully considering the 'views expressed about the assumptions incorporated in that paper, and in the light of estimates by education authorities of their future secondary school staffing requirements, I have decided that the total intake to pre-service courses of teacher training in session 1981–82 should not exceed 480 students for the primary diploma courses, 100 for the primary postgraduate course and 1,350 for secondary courses—including BEd courses.I am now required to consult the governing body of each college before issuing directions regarding the number of students of different categories to be admitted to the college; and I am proposing to the colleges that for session 1981–82 the allocation of the total intake to pre-service courses of teacher training should be as in the following table:
| Primary Intake | Secondary Intake | ||
| College | Proposed diploma course quotas | Proposed postgraduate course quotas | Proposed quotas |
| Aberdeen | 75 | 18 | 150 |
| Craigie | 55 | 12 | — |
| Dundee | 40 | 10 | 95 |
| Dunfermline | — | — | 65 |
| Jordanhill | 120 | 22 | 565 |
| Moray House | 95 | 18 | 260 |
| Roman Catholic Intake | 95 | 20 | 215 |
| Total | 480 | 100 | 1,350 |
Prime Minister
Engagements
Q5.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 30 April.
Q6.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 30 April.
Q8.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 30 April.
Q9.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 30 April.
Q10.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 30 April.
Q11.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 30 April.
Q13.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 30 April.
Q14.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 30 April.
Q15.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 30 April.
Q16.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 30 April.
Q17.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 30 April.
Q18.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 30 April.
Q19.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 30 April.
Q20.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 30 April.
Q22.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 30 April.
Q23.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 30 April.
Q24.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 30 April.
Q25.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 30 April.
Q26.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 30 April.
Q27.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 30 April.
Q28.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official duties for Thursday 30 April.
Q29.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 30 April.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 30 April.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 30 April.
This morning I presided at a meeting of the Cabinet and had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others. In addition to my duties in the House I shall be having further meetings later today.
Budget Leaks
Q7.
asked the Prime Minister, further to the reply given to the hon. Member for Aberdare on Tuesday 31 March, whether she is now able to make a statement on the progress of her inquiries into the pre-Budget leaks that appeared in Sunday newspapers on 8 March.
I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to the hon. Member for Oldham, West (Mr. Meacher) on 15 April.
Enterprise Zones
Q12.
asked the Prime Minister if she will define the responsibilities of each Government Department which is concerned with the implementation of the arrangements setting up the enterprise zones, announced by the Chancellor of the Exchequer in his 1980 Budget; and what progress is being made in establishing each one.
The English zone and policy for enterprise zones generally are the the responsibility of the Secretary of State for the Environment. The Scottish, Welsh and Northern Ireland zones are the responsibilities of the Secretaries of State for Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland respectively. The consent of the Treasury is required before a zone is designated.We hope the zones will come into operation as follows:
- Corby, Dudley, Swansea: June 1981
- Clydebank, Hartlepool, Newcastle/Gateshead, Salford/
- Trafford, Speke (Liverpool), Wakefield: July/August 1981 Belfast, Isle of Dogs: By the end of 1981
Telecommunications Industry
Q21.
asked the Prime Minister if she is satisfied with the competitive quality of the British telecommunications industry.
The United Kingdom telecommunications industry is continuing to market its equipment and services overseas, especially submarine cables and viewdata. It is also increasingly demonstrating its capability at home in areas such as new system X exchanges, the first installation of which is now in operation in London; and in optical fibres, where the United Kingdom was among the first to set up pilot systems. The industry is also developing further new products in telecommunications and in the broader information technology field for home and export markets. The Government intend to introduce further competition in the home market under the provisions of the British Telecommunications Bill through a phased programme to allow time for the industry to adjust to the new conditions. This will enable the industry to develop further its marketing skills and customer relations both at home and overseas.
Manpower (Recruitment Moratorium)
asked the Prime Minister if she will make a feasibility study of imposing a moratorium on recruitment to all administrative grades of local government; what reductions in numbers would result after a moratorium of one year; and what would be the financial saving.
The Government have no statutory powers to implement a moratorium on local authority recruitment; it is for local authorities themselves to decide how best to meet the spending targets we have set. We have emphasised the importance of manpower economies if the targets are to be met. We have also promoted the widest publication of information about manpower levels, authority by authority and service by service. No information is available centrally about the number and salary grade of new recruits to local government.
asked the Prime Minister if she will make a feasibility study of imposing a moratorium on all recruitment to the Civil Service; what reduction in manpower numbers would result after a moratorium of one year; and what would be the financial saving.
Last year some 55,000 left the non-industrial Home Civil Service and in the last two years we have recruited about 48,000 each year. I understand that Departments are recruiting only where they regard it as essential for the maintenance of services. Some Departments have recruited virtually no staff this year. On average the cost of one civil servant, including overheads, is over £10,000 a year at current pay rates.
Saudi Arabia (Defence Equipment)
asked the Prime Minister if, following her visit to Saudi Arabia, she will report on the progress of future air defence sales from the United Kingdom aerospace industry, with particular reference to Tornado and Hawk.
In close conjunction with the United Kingdom aerospace industry, the Government are vigorously pursuing a wide range of potential sales prospects, both in the Middle East and elsewhere. Possible sales of Tornado and further sales of Hawk are amongst these prospects. In general it is not our policy to reveal details of individual sales of defence equipment. But I was delighted that during my visit to Abu Dhabi the Defence Minister announced the Government's intention to purchase Hawk.
India (Jaguar Deal)
asked the Prime Minister if, following her recent visit to India, she is satisfied that the British Aerospace Jaguar deal will go ahead.
The Government of India have given no indication that they wish to alter the terms of the Jaguar deal.
Factory Closures
asked the Prime Minister how many hon. Members she has seen on matters relating to factory closures since she last answered oral questions; and how many jobs are expected to be lost in the closures discussed.
I have had no such meetings since 28 April.
Youth Benefits
asked the Prime Minister if she will consider the possibility of introducing proposals to pool all the different allowances now paid to young people aged 16 to 19 years and to redivide the money as a single means tested youth benefit; and if she will make a statement.
As my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services said on 27 April, the Government are keeping the range of financial support for young people under age 19 under review, but have no plans at present for making any changes.
May Day Holiday
asked the Prime Minister whether she will arrange for the May Day public holiday to be replaced by a public holiday on St. George's Day in England in future years.
Under the existing arrangements, the first Monday in May is a bank holiday. We have considered the possibility of changing the date of that holiday, but have decided not to do so. There would be a number of disadvantages in a move to St. George' Day, not least its proximity to Easter: there will be six years between now and the end of the century when there will be less than a week between Easter and St. George's Day.
British Summer Time
asked the Prime Minister why the date of British summer time was changed in the current year; and if she will specify the authority under which this was done.
The change was made under the Summer Time Act 1972 by Order in Council—SI 1980, No. 1089. The reasons for it were set out by my hon. Friend the Minister of State, Home Office in the debate in the House on 16 July 1980.—[Vol. 988, c. 1685–1716.]
Employment
British Railways (Closed Shop Memorial)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment on what date the memorial on the British Railways closed shop was lodged with the registrar of the European Court of Human Rights at Strasbourg; to which bodies the memorial was circulated prior to that date and upon what dates; and upon what criteria he chose the bodies to receive such prior copies.
The Government filed their written memorial on the British Rail closed shop case with the European Court of Human Rights on 5 December 1980. The memorial was not circulated to or discussed with any other organisation or individual prior to that date. Following consultations with the Court the Government placed copies of the memorial in the Libraries of both Houses on 19 January 1981 and from the same date made copies available on request to anyone who wished to see them.
Capital Expenditure
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list under major heads of expenditure his Department's proposed capital expenditure through 1981–82.
I shall reply to my hon. Friend as soon as possible.
United Kingdom—European Community Nationals
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what estimate he has made of the numbers of European Economic Community nationals resident or working in the United Kingdom and of the numbers of United Kingdom citizens living or working in the European Economic Community.
I shall reply to my hon. Friend as soon as possible.
Young Persons
asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether, in view the fact that under the new arrangements there are three days a year from which young people registering as unemployed can apply for benefit, he anticipates any temporary reduction in their number; and if he will make a statement.
In general, school leavers who register as unemployed during each of the three main school holidays, or the preceding term, will not be entitled to benefit until the beginning of the following term. They will, nevertheless, be counted in the figures of unemployed from the date they register, whether or not receiving benefit. Under these new arrangements, the absence of benefit until September for this summer's school leavers may have an effect on the numbers registering as unemployed, but it is not possible to estimate the likely numbers affected or the timing.
Unemployment Statistics
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will provide figures showing the number of non-claimants of unemployment benefit, the number of severely disabled persons and the number of unemployed sick, as defined by international recommendations for counting the unemployed, who were not included in the latest unemployment count available.
Non-claimants to unemployment benefit who register at employment and careers offices are included only if they are seeking full-time work; those seeking part-time work are excluded and numbered 21,000 at 12 February. At 12 March there were 12,000 disabled people not included in the unemployment count who were registered as unemployed but who were unlikely to obtain employment except under sheltered conditions. Figures for unemployed people who are not on the register while receiving sickness benefit are not available, but it is estimated that their number could add less than 1 per cent. to the unemployment total.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many (a) construction workers and (b) building material workers were unemployed at the latest convenient date; what percentage of the total unemployed this represents; and what were the comparable figures for May 1979.
The following table gives the numbers of people registered as unemployed at May 1979 and February 1981 in the United Kingdom who last worked in the industries shown and expresses these as percentages of all those registered as unemployed. The figures are not seasonally adjusted.
| Standard Industrial Classification 1968 | May 1979 | February 1981 (latest available) |
| Construction (Order XX) | 174,656 | 370,894 |
| As a percentage of all unemployed | 13·4 | 15·1 |
| Bricks, pottery, glass, cement etc. (Order XVI) | 11,473 | 26,772 |
| As a percentage of all unemployed | 0·9 | 1·1 |
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the current figure for long-term unemployment in (a) Wolverhampton and (b) the West Midlands; and what were the comparable figures in May 1979 and January 1980.
Duration analyses of the numbers registered as unemployed are made quarterly in January, April, July and October. The following table gives the numbers registered as unemployed for over 52 weeks at April 1979, January 1980 and January 1981 in the areas specified. The figures are not seasonally adjusted.
| April 1979 | January 1980 | January 1981 | |
| Wolverhampton employment office area | 1,944 | 2,074 | 2,923 |
| West Midlands | 34,154 | 33,685 | 48,766 |
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish in the Official Report a table showing the number of registered unemployed at King's Lynn, Fakenham, Hunstanton and Swaffham offices for April each year from 1970 to 1981, inclusive.
The following table gives the number of people registered as unemployed in the employment office areas at the dates specified:
| Kings Lynn | Fakenham | Hunstanton | Swaffham | |
| April each year | ||||
| 1970 | 879 | 186 | 242 | 164 |
| 1971* | 1,199 | 277 | 385 | 290 |
| 1972* | 1,384 | 329 | 376 | 313 |
| 1973 | 801 | 226 | 250 | 238 |
| 1974 | 576 | 177 | 179 | 202 |
| 1975 | 1,143 | 293 | 451 | 437 |
| 1976 | 1,329 | 407 | 602 | 510 |
| 1977 | 1,866 | 457 | 702 | 616 |
| 1978 | 1,951 | 421 | 686 | 548 |
| 1979 | 1,886 | 426 | 577 | 463 |
| 1980 | 1,871 | 442 | 565 | 430 |
| 1981 | 3,430 | 680 | 794 | 705 |
| * The figures for 1971 and 1972 include small numbers of adult students not present in the figures for other dates. | ||||
School Leavers
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the comparative figures per thousand civilian working population between Wolverhampton and (a) the West Midlands and (b) the South-East of school leavers unemployed at the latest convenient date.
In the following table the provisional numbers of school leavers under 18 years of age registered as unemployed at 9 April are expressed per 1,000 of the total numbers of employees, employed and unemployed, in the respective areas.
| Unemployed school leavers per 1,000 employees | |
| Wolverhampton travel-to-work area | 4·8 |
| West Midlands | 3·3 |
| South-East | 1·3 |
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish in the Official Report a table showing the number of registered unemployed school leavers at the King's Lynn, Fakenham, Hunstanton and Swaffham offices for April each year from 1970 to 1981, inclusive.
I shall reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
Liquefied Gas Clouds
asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether the Health and Safety Executive was consulted by the Shell Oil Company throughout tests at Maplin, Essex, on the behaviour of liquefied gas clouds when ignited; whether the executive is making an independent assessment of the lessons learnt; and whether those responsible for making the tests have had any discussion about them with the chief fire officer for Essex in the last six months.
The Health and Safety Executive was consulted by Shell UK Ltd., throughout the trials at Maplin Sands, Essex, on the behaviour of liquefied gas clouds when ignited. The executive is making an independent assessment of the lessons from the trials, and a preliminary meeting was held on 31 March to discuss the results so far available with representatives of Shell. It is likely that the full results will not be known for some considerable time. I understand that there have been no discussions on the trials in the last six months between Shell and the chief fire officer for Essex.
Methane Gas Terminal (Canvey Island)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if the British Gas Corporation has now complied with the last of the three enforcement notices served by the Health and Safety Executive on its methane gas terminal at Canvey Island in April 1980; and whether he is satisfied that all safety devices at this installation are now working satisfactorily.
I shall reply to my hon. Friend a s soon as possible.
Special Employment Measures
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish in the Official Report a table showing the annual numbers of people in the King's Lynn, Fakenham, Hunstanton and Swaffham office areas who have benefited from special employment measures introduced by his Department for each year from 1970 to 1981, inclusive.
I shall reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
Disabled Persons (Quota Scheme)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what action has been taken by the Manpower Services Commission in the past year to publicise among disabled people the advantages of the quota scheme; and what action the Manpower Services Commission will be taking to promote the scheme during the remainder of 1981.
[pursuant to his reply, 28 April 1981]: Disablement resettlement officers have continued to discuss the quota scheme during interviews with disabled people. The commission's leaflet on registration as a disabled person under the Disabled Persons (Employment) Acts 1944 and 1958, which is widely distributed among disabled people, identifies the quota scheme among the employment provisions which apply only to registered disabled people. In addition, the series of fact sheets for disabled people produced to support the recent joint MSC/BBC Radio "Able to Work" week includes information about the scheme.The commission is currently reviewing the scheme and is due to submit recommendations shortly to my right hon. Friend. The MSC therefore has no plans to take any additional initiatives to promote the quota scheme at the present time, though it will continue to promote equality of opportunity for disabled people in all aspects of employment through its "Fit for Work" campaign.
Capital Expenditure
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list under major heads of expenditure his Department's proposed capital expenditure through 1981–82.
[pursuant to his reply, 29 April 1981]: The major heads of capital expenditure for the Department of Employment group are set out in Supply Estimates Class IV within the following Votes:
- Vote 13 Labour Market Services Subheads B2, B4(1) and B4(3)
- Vote 16 Manpower Services Commission Subheads A6(3) A6(4) B1 and B5(3)
- Subheads subject to limitation of amounts specified in footnotes Al(2) A2(2) A5(2) B4(2) B4(3) B6(2) B8(2) C1 C2(2) and D1(2)
- Vote 17 Administration Subheads A7 and A8
- Vote 20 Health and Safety Commission Subhead (3)
European Community—United Kingdom (Nationals)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what estimate he has made of the numbers of European Economic Community nationals resident or working in the United Kingdom and of the numbers of United Kingdom citizens living or working in the European Economic Community.
[pursuant to his reply, 29 April 1981]: It is estimated that in May 1979, the latest date for which information is available, there were 620,000 nationals of other European Community countries, aged 16 or over, living in the United Kingdom and that of these 410,000 were in employment. Citizens of the Republic of Ireland account for nearly three-quarters of European Community nationals living and working in the United Kingdom.For United Kingdom citizens employed in other European Community countries, the available figures for the various countries relate to different periods between 1975 and 1979. The total of these figures gives an estimate of 72,000 employees, excluding those working in the Republic of Ireland, for which corresponding information is not available. Based on partial information for the Republic of Ireland, it is estimated that the total for all other European Community countries would be very approximately 80,000.
Home Department
Ships (Radio Licences)
24.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what costs are incurred in the administration and supervision of ships' radio licences where small vessels are involved.
The costs incurred are those of administering the licensing system, of paying the Post Office for work done on our behalf, and of paying the Department of Trade for inspecting ships' radio installations and for allocating and maintaining a register of ships' radio call signs. In addition, following a review of the radio regulatory department as one in the series of reviews of Government Departments carried out in consultation with Sir Derek Rayner, my right hon. Friend decided that, as an interim measure, private radio licence fees should meet the cost of 20 per cent. of the unallocated costs of the Department, and maritime licences bear their appropriate share of these.
Member's Correspondence
25.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will investigate why a letter sent to the hon. Member for Newham, North-West, on behalf of Lord Belstead, on 21 April asked for information already supplied; and why the envelope bore a 14p stamp as well as being officially franked.
The hon. Member's own letter dated 1 April did not indicate when or to whom any previous letter on this subject might have been sent, and a check of our records and those at New Scotland Yard failed to reveal a previous letter. The letter in question has now been traced, by the Metropolitan Police, as having been sent by the hon. Member to the officer in charge of Holloway police station on 16 May 1980. The Home Office implemented with effect from 1 April 1981 a new postal system which is being adopted over a period of time by all Government Departments. From that date the "official paid" marking ceased to have any significance for Home Office correspondence. The envelope was stamped to ensure that the letter could be forwarded to the hon. Member during the recess.
British Nationality Bill
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many of the London boroughs have requested him to provide speakers on the British Nationality Bill; what arrangements he has made; and if he will make a statement.
The London borough of Brent requested a speaker on the British Nationality Bill to address a meeting of the council's race relations sub-committee. It was not possible to provide such a speaker, but we undertook to answer any specific points on the Bill which the sub-committee might wish to make in writing.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will list in the Official Report the high commissioners from the New Commonwealth who have made representations about the British Nationality Bill; and if he will make a statement.
The following high commissioners from the New Commonwealth have made representations on the British Nationality Bill:
- High Commissioner for Bangladesh;
- High Commissioners for Barbados and St. Lucia (on behalf of Caribbean High Commissioners);
- High Commissioner for India.
Metropolitan Police Officers (Caribbean Origins)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many officers employed by the Metropolitan Police have ethnic origins in the Caribbean.
The Metropolitan Police has 114 officers from the ethnic minorities. Of these, 36 were born in the Caribbean and 35 were born in the United Kingdom—some of West Indian descent.
Tobacco Sales (Prosecutions)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many retailers in England and Wales were prosecuted under section 7 of the Children and Young Persons Act 1933 for selling tobacco to children under the age of 16 years during each of the past 10 years for which figures are available; and how many of these resulted in conviction.
The information available is published annually in "Criminal Statistics, England and Wales"—offence classification 144 in table 1(a) of the volume for 1979, Cmnd. 8098; information on the circumstances of these offences is not collected centrally.
Mr Bhutto
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, in view of the fact that Mr. Bhutto, the son of the former Prime Minister of Pakistan, admitted during the BBC radio programme "World at One" on 19 April that he has been connected with terrorists and is in favour of using bombs, bullets and force in support of his aims, whether he will prevent this person from entering the United Kingdom for the stated purpose of university studies.
Recent events, including the statements referred to by the hon. Member, will be taken into account should Mr. Bhutto seek entry to the United Kingdom.
Citizenship
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department in what circumstances he proposes that British citizenship should be available as of right (a) to children born overseas to British by birth parents who are working overseas in commerce or industry and (b) to the children of those in category (a).
Under the British Nationality Bill, children born overseas to parents who are British citizens by birth in the United Kingdom will automatically be British citizens at birth. Children born overseas to British citizens by descent will have an entitlement to British citizenship on application where one parent has certain links with this country principally through employment or if they come to this country and reside here with their parents for at least three years. They will automatically be British citizens at birth if one parent is in Crown service under Her Majesty's Government in the United Kingdom at the time of birth or in service designated as closely associated with Her Majesty's Government's activities overseas, his or her recruitment for the service in question having taken place in the United Kingdom.
Poorang Shahabi
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department why Poorang Shahabi, a convicted criminal student from Iran, was allowed out of prison to marry an English woman after he had been recommended for deportation by the judge who imposed the conviction; and whether this marriage will affect the implementation of the deportation order.
The immigration rules provide that a man admitted in a temporary capacity who marries a woman settled here will not be granted permission to stay on account of a marriage which took place after he had been recommended for deportation. The court's recommendation was not a reason to withhold permission for the marriage.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what action he has taken to deport Iranian student Poorang Shahabi, a convicted criminal, in accordance with the recommendation of the judge who made the conviction.
My right hon. Friend is considering the recommendation.
Prisoner Transfer Treaties
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to complete his consultations on prisoner transfer treaties.
I cannot at present add to the information given to the House on 16 April.—[Vol. 3, c.495–500.]
Nationality
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many otherwise Stateless people have been registered in each year since 1964 as citizens of the United Kingdom and Colonies under the British Nationality (No. 2) Act 1964; in which countries they resided; and how many of them would become British citizens under clause 9 of the British Nationality Bill when passed.
The number of persons registered in each year since 1964 as citizens of the United Kingdom and Colonies under the British Nationality (No. 2) Act: 1964 is as follows:
| 1964 | 5 |
| 1965 | 50 |
| 1966 | 38 |
| 1967 | 67 |
| 1968 | 42 |
| 1969 | 49 |
| 1970 | 68 |
| 1971 | 75 |
| 1972 | 73 |
| 1973 | 60 |
| 1974 | 99 |
| 1975 | 73 |
| 1976 | 48 |
| 1977 | 60 |
| 1978 | 81 |
| 1979 | 112 |
Metropolitan Police (Arms)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department on how many occasions in 1980 officers of the Metropolitan Police were armed with guns, excluding members of the diplomatic protection group and special sections of the force who are armed as a matter of course; and how this figure breaks down by police division.
[pursuant to his reply, 10 April 1981, c. 372]: The number of occasions in 1980 on which firearms were issued to officers of the Metropolitan Police for particular incidents involving criminals or other persons known or believed to be armed was 5,968. It is not the practice to break this figure down by police division.
Attorney-General
Riotous Assemblies
asked the Attorney-General if he will list the offences with which those involved in riotous assemblies can be charged; and whether he is satisfied that, given the nature of such riots, the police are able satisfactorily to gather evidence in furtherance of such charges, and that objective juries can be enlisted.
There are numerous common law and statutory offences with which persons, involved in circumstances which may also amount to riot, can be charged and have been so charged and convicted. There are often difficulties in obtaining evidence in a confused situation but the many successful prosecutions for such other offences which have followed such situations show that these difficulties are not insurmountable. I am satisfied that the prospects of obtaining an objective jury to try charges of riot are generally no less than they are for the trial of any other offence when there are several defendants.
Wales
Postgraduate Medical Centres
asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many postgraduate medical centres in Wales based upon district general hospitals are fully funded by his Department; what is the average attendance at symposia, meetings and so on, arranged at these centres; and what is the annual cost of each centre to the Department over each of the past five-year periods that they have been in existence.
No hospital-based post-graduate medical education in Wales is fully funded by the Welsh Office. Facilities are however provided at district general hospitals by area health authorities and these are supported by the Welsh Office which makes annual contributions to the central organiser of such activities, the director and dean of post-graduate studies at the Welsh National School of Medicine. Records of expenditure at each centre are not available centrally but postgraduate medical education in Wales has been funded by the Welsh Office through the post-graduate dean to the following extent:
| Year | Expenditure funded by Welsh Office |
| 1977–78* | 81,300 |
| 1978–79 | 100,991 |
| 1979–80 | 132,089 |
| 1980–81† | 169,575 |
| * The first year for which complete figures are available. | |
| † Provisional. | |
In addition, general medical practitioners attending courses are reimbursed approved travelling and subsistence expenses by family practitioner committees. No attendance records are kept centrally.
Civil Service
Resignations
asked the Minister for the Civil Service how many civil servants at the latest and most convenient stated date have resigned since the industrial dispute in the Civil Service to take up employment in private industry; and how many of these have given as their reasons the salaries and working conditions being inferior to those which they are able to enjoy in their new private employment.
The number of civil servants who have resigned since the start of the industrial dispute is not yet known. Information is not held centrally on the reasons for resignation.
Statisticians
asked the Minister for the Civil Service how many statisticians are currently employed in the Civil Service and in which Departments; and what were the comparable figures for May 1979.
The following table shows the number of staff in post in the statistician group by Department at 1 January 1981 and 1 April 1979. There are no figures available centrally for May 1979.
| Staff in post (full-time equivalents) | ||
| Department | 1 April 1979* | 1 January 1981† |
| Agriculture, Fisheries and Food | 18 | 17 |
| Cabinet Office | 63 | 45 |
| CSD | 17 | 14 |
| Defence | 32 | 34 |
| Education and Science | 15 | 15 |
| Employment Group | 43 | 40 |
| Energy | 13 | 15 |
| Environment/PSA | 67 | 61 |
| Health and Social Security | 41 | 39 |
| Home Office | 23 | 24 |
| Industry | 76 | 70 |
| Inland Revenue | 19 | 21 |
| OPCS | 23 | 25 |
| Scottish Office | 24 | 23 |
| Treasury | 13 | 15 |
| Welsh Office | 12 | 9 |
| Other Departments | 30 | 30 |
| Total | 529 | 497 |
| Notes: | ||
| *1 April 1979—nearest date to "May 1979" for which this information is readily available. | ||
| † 1 January 1981—latest date for which figures are available centrally. | ||
Researchers
asked the Minister for the Civil Service how many researchers are currently employed in the Civil Service and in which Departments; and what were the comparable figures for May 1979.
The following table shows staff in post in the research officer category by Department at 1 January 1981 and 1 April 1979. These statistics do not include staff in other occupational groups who are engaged in research work.
| Staff in Post (full-time equivalents) | ||
| 1 April 1979* | 1 January 1981† | |
| Agriculture, Fisheries and Food | 28 | 30 |
| Defence | 71 | 67 |
| Employment Group | 32 | 37 |
| Environment/PSA | 134 | 124 |
| Home Office | 41 | 46 |
| Industry | 26 | 29 |
| Overseas Development | 18 | 15 |
| Scottish Office | 33 | 33 |
| Welsh Office | 17 | 15 |
| Other Departments | 36 | 27 |
| Total | 436 | 423 |
| Notes: | ||
| *1 April 1979—nearest date to May 1979 for which figures are available. | ||
| † 1 January 1981—latest date for which figures are available centrally. | ||
Pensions
asked the Minister for the Civil Service what is her assessment of the reasons why Civil Service pension payments have increased from less than 8 per cent. of payment costs in 1961–62 to over 18 per cent. in 1981–82; and whether she has comparative figures for (a) the private sector of industry, (b) all other occupations and (c) all occupations excluding the Civil Service.
A detailed assessment has not been made, but the number of pensioners, including widows and other dependants, has gone up over the period from 200,000 to 380,000—by 90 per cent.—while staff in post, excluding Post Office staffs, have increased by less than 10 per cent.; basic benefits were brought up-to-date in 1972; and the average length of service reckoning for benefits has increased. Comparative figures for the private sector or for other occupations outside the Civil Service are not available.
Costs
asked the Minister for the Civil Service what has been the cost of (a) the Civil Service and (b) Civil Service pensions for each of the last 20 years, divided in each case by the retail price index and the wages index.
The information for Supply Estimates provision which I gave to my hon. Friend on 13 April—[Vol. 3, c. 72]—divided by the index of average earnings where available, is as follows:
| Total provision (£ million) divided by index of average earnings* | ||
| Financial year | Pay† | Superannuation |
| 1963–64 | 697 | 53 |
| 1964–65 | 681 | 52 |
| 1965–66 | 687 | 49 |
| 1966–67 | 708 | 55 |
| 1967–68 | 736 | 54 |
| 1968–69 | ‡741 | 57 |
| 1969–70 | ‡744 | 59 |
| 1970–71 | ‡750 | 54 |
| 1971–72 | 751 | 59 |
| 1972–73 | 710 | 61 |
Financial year
| Pay†
| Superannuation
|
| 1973–74 | 682 | 63 |
| 1974–75 | 687 | 56 |
| 1975–76 | 752 | 70 |
| 1976–77 | 715 | 77 |
| 1977–78 | 723 | 87 |
| 1978–79 | 647 | 87 |
| 1979–80 | 607 | 88 |
| 1980–81 | 646 | 99 |
Notes
| ||
*Index of average earnings (old series), seasonally adjusted, for October in the relevant financal year on the basis October 1963 = 100. This index began in 1963. | ||
†Including employer's national insurance contribution. | ||
†Includes selective employment tax. | ||
When divided by the retail price index, the information is as follows:
Total provision (£ million) divided by index of retail prices**
| ||
Financial year
| Pay†
| Superannuation
|
| 1961–62 | 604 | 46 |
| 1962–63 | 687 | 48 |
| 1963–64 | 697 | 53 |
| 1964–65 | 704 | 54 |
| 1965–66 | 731 | 52 |
| 1966–67 | 760 | 59 |
| 1967–68 | 814 | 60 |
| 1968–69 | ‡835 | 64 |
| 1969–70 | ‡862 | 68 |
| 1970–71 | ‡919 | 67 |
| 1971–72 | 927 | 72 |
| 1972–73 | 936 | 80 |
| 1973–74 | 921 | 85 |
| 1974–75 | 961 | 79 |
| 1975–76 | 1,043 | 97 |
| 1976–77 | 971 | 104 |
| 1977–78 | 942 | 114 |
| 1978–79 | 916 | 123 |
| 1979–80 | 853 | 123 |
| 1980–81 | 920 | 141 |
Note
| ||
**Index of retail prices for October in the relevant financial year on the basis October 1963 = 100 (for consistency with the earlier table). | ||
These figures can be taken as only a broad indication of relative changes in the volume of expenditure on pay and pensions respectively.
Industry
Submarine Building Complex (Cumbria)
asked the Secretary of State for Industry how the new submarine building complex being considered at Vickers Shipbuilders in Cumbria will be funded.
British Shipbuilders is considering what capital investment is needed in order to build the Trident submarine; I understand that the corporation hopes to make a proposal to my Department in the near future. Meanwhile, no decision on funding has been made.
Public Holiday—(29 July)
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what is the estimated value of the lost production likely to be incurred as a result of the one-day public holiday on 29 July.
No estimates are available.
Steel Industry
asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will make representations to the European Economic Community to prevent the implementation of article 58 in a way prejudicial to British steel producers, in the light of the case of the steel firm of Darlington and Simpson's rolling mills; and if he will make a statement.
The steel production quota system established by the Commission with Council approval under article 58 of the ECSC Treaty provides for flexibility in its application by the Commission to deal with exceptional difficulties.In the last quarter of 1980 and the first quarter of this year Darlington and Simpson's difficulties were resolved by an additional allocation from the Commission and by the transfer of surplus entitlements from United Kingdom producers. I understand that efforts are well in hand to see whether a satisfactory solution can again be found.
International Computers Ltd
asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether the Government have played any part in the arrangements whereby International Computers Ltd. secured an additional £70 million of borrowing facilities to the Government's £200 million loan.
The £70 million of borrowing facilities mentioned by the hon. Member which the banks have made available to ICL is an integral part of the Government's loan guarantee facility. The Government are guaranteeing borrowings of up to £200 million which ICL makes from its banks in excess of £70 million.
asked the Secretary of State for Industry if, as well as guaranteeing loans to International Computers Ltd. of up to £200 million under the Industry Act 1972, he has given guarantees directly or indirectly to support the extra £70 million of borrowing facilities made available to International Computers Ltd. by its banks.
No.
Social Services
Census Department (Salaries And Allowances)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, in the light of the large amount of money paid in salaries and allowances to the top paid of the officers in the census division, if he will take action to reduce the numbers employed and the cost of this department in accordance with the Government's economy drive.
The census in Great Britain is one of the cheapest among the developed countries; for example, the cost per head is only half that in the United States census. Nevertheless, economies are constantly being sought. The cost of this census has already been reduced by 16 per cent. as part of the economy drive. Current plans provide for a rapid rundown of the census staff as their tasks are completed.
General Practitioners (Fees)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if the fees charged by general practitioners are retainable by them when received from overseas visitors or whether they must be returned to his Department.
A general practitioner is entitled to retain any fee received from an overseas visitor ineligible for NHS treatment whom he has agreed to treat as a private patient.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will give additional payment to general practitioners or approve and pay for additional clerical staff in areas where there are large concentrations of ethnic minorities in order to monitor the effects of charging fees (HN(81)13) to overseas visitors.
No. General practitioners will be expected to treat any new patients not ordinarily resident in this country, or otherwise eligible for NHS treatment, as private patients and thus outside NHS arrangements for payments to general practitioners. Guidance to assist them to identify visitors who are eligible for NHS treatment is under consideration and will be the subject of consultation in due course.
Tobacco Sales
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will conduct a survey as to the extent to which retailers are complying with the law forbidding the sale of tobacco to children under the age of 16 years; and if he will take steps to make the legal requirements better known in the interests of health.
A survey of 50 tobacconists in Scotland was carried out recently for the Scottish Committee of Action on Smoking and Health by the Opinion Research Centre: 43 of these tobacconists sold cigarettes to a child who was manifestly under the age of 16. Under the voluntary agreement with the tobacco industry announced on 21 November 1980, the industry will be supplying the retail trade with material on the law regarding sales of cigarettes to children and inviting the retail trade to display such notices.I am keeping in close touch with the arrangements which the industry is making and shall be interested to see what effect the display of the notices has.
Hospital Waiting Lists
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the number of people on hospital waiting lists in (a) the North-West region and (b) Mersey regional health authority on 31 December 1979 and 31 December 1980.
Figures at 31 December 1980 are not yet available. The number of people awaiting in-patient admission to NHS hospitals on the dates shown were:
| North-Western Regional Health Authority | Mersey Regional Health Authority | |
| 31 December 1979 | 70,000 | 38,000 |
| 31 March 1980 | *69,000 | *37,000 |
| * Latest available figures. | ||
Invalidity Pensioners (Therapeutic Earnings)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he has decided the rate of the therapeutic earnings limit for invalidity pensioners from November 1981.
Yes. The therapeutic earnings limit will be increased from its present level of £15 a week to £16·50 a week, with effect from November 1981.
Industrial Dispute (Benefit Payments)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what proportion of benefit over payments arising from the Civil Service strike he expects to recover.
I am unable to make any such estimate. However, as I explained in my reply to my hon. Friend on 9 April—[Vol. 2, c. 337]—our procedures during the present industrial action are designed to restrict the possibility of overpayment to a small proportion of the total number of cases.
Health Services (Expenditure)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what are the revenue and capital allocations for each health service region and overall per head of the population for 1981–82.
I refer my hon. Friend to my reply to the hon. Member for Leeds, West (Mr. Dean) on 26 February.—[Vol. 999, c. 429–30.] Regional health authorities have since been notified of their cash limits for 1981–82. These cash limits, per head of population without any weighting to reflect relative health care need, are as follows:
| £ per head | ||
| Revenue | Capital | |
| Northern | 157 | 14·30 |
| Yorkshire | 152 | 14·00 |
£ per head
| ||
Revenue
| Capital
| |
| Trent | 142 | 13·00 |
| East Anglian | 144 | 16·50 |
| NW Thames | 184 | 9·90 |
| NE Thames | 185 | 12·40 |
| SE Thames | 182 | 11·20 |
| SW Thames | 178 | 11·50 |
| Wessex | 144 | 15·60 |
| Oxford | 136 | 10·70 |
| South Western | 147 | 12·00 |
| West Midlands | 146 | 11·70 |
| Mersey | 165 | 13·30 |
| North-Western | 167 | 18·70 |
| England | 160 | 13·10 |
Oxford Regional Health Authority
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services why nearly 30 per cent. of the capital expenditure in the Oxford regional health authority in 1979–80 was committed to professional fees, salaries and wages; and how this compares with comparable private sector capital expenditure schemes.
I shall let my hon. Friend have a reply as soon as possible.
Muslim Population
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his best estimate of the Muslim population of the United Kingdom; and what is its ethnic derivation.
I regret that this information is not available.
Deprivation (Research Programme)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when the research programme into deprivation will he finished; and if he will make a statement.
The programme of research into the possibility of a cycle of deprivation, financed by my Department and managed by the Social Science Research Council, was started in 1974 and is due to end early next year. The programme has included a considerable number of substantial research projects in various social policy areas. It is expected that the programme as a whole will make an important contribution to understanding of the causes of some forms of deprivation, and of some of the ways by which such deprivation may have been transmitted from one generation to another.The Social Science Research Council has arranged for individual reports on several of the major research projects to be published by Heinemann Educational Books Ltd. as part of a special series under the title "Studies in Deprivation and Disadvantage". The first volume, a survey of existing research findings, was published in 1976 and the second report in this series, incorporating entirely new empirical material, was published on 23 March this year. Where the reports on research projects are not suitable for publication as individual volumes, accounts of them will be included in summary publications in the same series, and the originals will be lodged in the British Library (Lending Division).A report summarising the research programme as a whole is in preparation. It, too, is expected to be published in due course by Heinemann.
Community Homes (Working Party Reports)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he has received the reports of the working parties on observation and assessment and on control and discipline in community homes.
I recently received these two reports by working parties set up to look at aspects of the work of community homes, one chaired by Professor Norman Tutt on observation and assessment and the other by Mr. Bill Utting on control and discipline. I am most grateful to the chairmen and members of the working parties for making their experience and expertise available. Both reports have now been published, and copies have been placed in the Library of the House. They are being circulated widely, and I am confident that they will make a valuable contribution to the development of services for young people.
Education And Science
Burnham Further Education Committee
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he has yet consented to award a seat on the Burnham Further Education Committee to a representative of the Association of Polytechnic Teachers; and if he will make a statement.
No decision has been taken by my right hon. and learned Friend.
School Meals (West Midlands)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what percentage of children in (a) primary schools and (b) secondary schools within (i) Wolverhampton and (ii) the West Midlands (1) have free school meals, (2) pay for school meals and (3) bring packed lunches at the latest available date and at the end of May 1979.
The following is the information requested, the latest available being the census returns for October 1980:
| October 1980 | May 1979 | |||
| Primary | Secondary | Primary | Secondary | |
| Per cent | Per cent | Per cent | Per cent | |
| Wolverhampton | ||||
| (1) Free Meals | 14·1 | 11·1 | 12·3 | 6·3 |
| (2) Paid Meals | 39·2 | 22·3 | 39·5 | 10·5 |
| (3) Packed Lunches | 16·5 | 25·4 | N/A | N/A |
| West Midlands | ||||
| (1) Free Meals | 15·5 | 10·6 | 15·7 | 10·2 |
| (2) Paid Meals | 40·2 | 27·1 | 49·9 | 25·1 |
| (3) Packed Lunches | 18·5 | 22·0 | N/A | N/A |
School Curriculum
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will take steps to ensure that traditional British culture is infused equally throughout the curriculum of all schools in the United Kingdom irrespective of the ethnic derivation of the pupils.
My right hon. and learned Friend has no evidence that schools in England are neglecting the history, culture and traditions of the United Kingdom, but their curricula should also take account of the greater dversity of cultural heritage. Responsibility for education in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland lies with my right hon. Friends the Secretaries of State for those parts of the United Kingdom.
16 To 19-Year-Olds
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) how many and what percentage of all 17-year-olds were, in January 1980 (a) in full-time education in schools, (b) in full-time non-advanced further education, (c) in part-time day non-advanced further education, (d) in advanced education, (e)in employment and not receiving part-time day non-advanced education, (f) registered unemployed and (g) on youth opportunities programme courses;
| 16 number | 17 number | 18 number | 16–18* number | |||||
| thousands | per cent. | thousands | per cent. | thousands | per cent. | thousands | per cent. | |
| Population | 814 | 100 | 800 | 100 | 779 | 100 | 2,393 | 100 |
| Full-time education in school | 226 | 28 | 143 | 18 | 14 | 2 | 383 | 16 |
| Full-time non-advanced further education | 114 | 14 | 71 | 9 | 34 | 4 | 219 | 9 |
| Part-time day non-advanced further education † | 100 | 12 | 125 | 16 | 101 | 13 | 326 | 14 |
| Advanced education‡ | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 70 | 9 | 73 | 3 |
| Registered unemployed | 50 | 6 | 51 | 6 | 57 | 7 | 157 | 7 |
| Employed without part-time day education* * | 324 | 40 | 409 | 51 | 503 | 64 | 1,235 | 52 |
| * Those who at 31 August 1979 had attained the age of 16, but had yet reached their 19th birthday. | ||||||||
| † Mainly day release but includes those not on day release. | ||||||||
| ‡ Includes university education. | ||||||||
| ** Includes 70,000 YOPS students for whom no age detail is available. | ||||||||
Overseas Students
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will publish, in addition to the information provided in his Department's "Statistical Bulletin 4/81: Enrolments of Overseas Students", a breakdown by country of origin of overseas students enrolled on further and higher education courses in 1980–81.
Some provisional information in respect of the main countries of origin of overseas students in the current academic year was provided in the reply I gave to the hon. Member for Greenwich (Mr. Barnett) on 14 April.—[Vol. 3, c. 121.]The Baroness Young gave an undertaking in the other place on 19 February that the Department would publish more information than that provided in statistical bulletin 4/81 when the final figures for the current year become available. The Department plans to publish a further
(2) how many and what percentage of all 16 to 19-yearolds were, in January 1980 (a) in full-time education in schools, (b) in full-time non-advanced further education, (c) in part-time day non-advanced further education, (d) in advanced education, (e) in employment and not receiving part-time day non-advanced education, (f) registered unemployed and (g) on youth opportunities programme courses;
(3) how many and what percentage of all 16-year-olds were, in January 1980 (a) in full-time education in schools, (b) in full-time non-advanced further education, (c) in part-time day non-advanced further education, (d) in advanced education, (e) in employment and not receiving part-time day non-advanced education, (f) registered unemployed and (g) on youth opportunities programme courses;
(4) how many and what percentage of all 18-year-olds were, in January 1980 (a) in full-time education in schools, (b) in full-time non-advanced further education, (c) in part-time day non-advanced further education, (d) in advanced education, (e) in employment and not receiving part-time day non-advanced education, (f) registered unemployed and (g) on youth opportunities programme courses.
The pattern of education and training for young people in the 16 to 19* age group, by individual years, during the academic year 1979–80 was as follows:statistical bulletin which will include information on overseas students in 1980–81 by country of origin when the final figures have been analysed.
Law Students
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will take steps to make grants available to law students between finishing their university careers and their final law examinations.
My right hon. and learned Friend does not intend in present economic circumstances to introduce legislation to extend mandatory awards to the one-year vocational course leading to the final law examinations; local education suthorities may, however, make awards at their discretion in respect of this course.
Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs
Albania (Gold)
asked the Lord Privy Seal whether he will ensure that no gold, ownership of which is attributable to the Albanian Government, will be returned to Albania unless and until the Albanian Government implement the judgment of the International Court of Justice arising out of the Corfu channel incident.
The gold provisionally allocated to Albania after the Second World War is in the custody of the Tripartite Commission for the Restitution of Monetary Gold. Its disposal is a matter for joint agreement between the three Governments represented on the commission and not for the British Government alone. For their part, the British Government remain of the view that Albania should comply with the judgment of the International Court of Justice in the Corfu channel case.
Lebanon
asked the Lord Privy Seal what effect the current conflict in the Lebanon will have on the European peace initiative.
Conflict and continuing tension in the Lebanon inevitably complicate the search for an Arab-Israel peace settlement. They also underline the urgency of this search. We shall continue our efforts to bring about progress towards the sort of comprehensive settlement which can help to solve Lebanon's problems also.
asked the Lord Privy Seal whether he will take further initiatives through the United Nations to prevent Israeli aggression against the Lebanon and the construction of further settlements on the West Bank.
The British Government remain prepared to support effective and timely action in the United Nations but are not proposing any initiative at this time. The Security council has with our support made its views clear on both these subjects. It did so most recently in the statement on South Lebanon by the President of the Council on 20 March and in resolution 465 of 1 March 1980, which called on Israel to holt the expansion of settlements in the occupied territories and to dismantle existing settlemants.
Palestine Liberation Organisation
asked the Lord Privy Seal, pursuant to his reply to the right hon. Member for Brent, East on 15 April, Official Report, c. 147–48, if he will publish in the Official Report statements suggesting that the Palestine Liberation Organisation wishes to pursue a peaceful settlement negotiated with Israel.
In addition to the private statements referred to in that reply, the following statement was made on the record in 1978 by Yasser Arafat to United States Congressman Findley:
"The PLO will accept an independent Palestinian state consisting of the West Bank of Gaza, with connecting corridors, and in that circumstance will renounce any and all violent means to enlarge the territory of that state. We will give de facto recognition of Israel. We would live at peace with all our neighbours."
Defence
Defence Establishments (Woolwich And Greenwich)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many redundancies have occurred at each of the defence establishments in the Woolwich and Greenwich areas as a result of the introduction of contract cleaning and catering services.
On 1 April 1981 there were vacancies for 14 skilled and 12 unskilled workers. However, in order to reduce civilian manpower within the Ministry of Defence, restrictions on recruitment are currently in force but dispensation is being sought to fill five of the unskilled posts which are regarded as being of special priority.
Maze Prison (Security Costs)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what role was played by the Army, including the Ulster Defence Regiment, during the visit of the three Members of the Dublin Parliament to the Maze prison; and what was the cost of their operations.
None.
Second World War Hangars
asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether preservation orders have been placed on any Second World War hangars.
I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave to him on 31 July 1980.—[Vol. 989, c. 837.]
Unemployed Sailors
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is being done to relieve the problem of unemployed young sailors in the Royal Navy resulting from the high number of idle warships.
A comprehensive training programme has been arranged for the ships' companies, including young sailors, of those Royal Navy warships that are spending longer in harbour than planned. The opportunity is also being taken to improve standards of ship maintenance.
Energy
Energy Conservation
asked the Secretary of State for Energy if, in pursuance of his policy of fuel conservation, he will seek to prevent the energy supply industries from placing penalty clauses in contracts with customers requiring them to pay for energy which they have not used.
Terms of contracts are matters for the fuel industries and their customers. I am asking the chairman of the British Gas Corporation and the chairman of the Electricity Council to write to my hon. Friend to explain the position for their industries. I understand that minimum payment clauses are not generally included in contracts for oil products nor for supplies by the National Coal Board.
Nuclear Power Stations (Defects)
asked the Secretary of State for Energy (1) if he will list every crack or any other kind of defect discovered in the reactor or other plant in nuclear power stations since they were first brought into commission; what was the date, location or nature of the defect; how likely it was that each defect, if undiscovered, would have led to a serious accident; what was thought to have been the cause of each defect; and what action was taken in each case to prevent any recurrence;(2) if he will list every accident that has occurred at nuclear power stations since they first came into commission; what were the dates, locations and nature of the accidents; how much leakage occurred; what was thought to have been the cause of the leaks; how many persons were thought to have been exposed to any radiation; and what action was taken in each case to prevent any recurrence.
I refer the hon. Member to the Answer I gave to his question on 27 November.—[Vol. 994, c. 195–96.]Incidents reported prior to 1970 under the Nuclear Installations (Dangerous Occurrences) Regulations 1965, and earlier legislation, from nuclear power stations in England and Wales were two in number. On 18 October 1969 and 17 November 1969 there were releases of carbon dioxide—reactor coolant—gas at Wylfa power station. Neither involved injury to persons.No plant can be entirely free from defects, and the plant is designed to take account of this. There is evidence that the weld defects in the magnox stations have been present since construction; they successfully withstood proof pressure tests prior to the reactors being brought into service and show no evidence of growth during service.Nuclear power stations in Scotland are the responsibility of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland.
Offshore Safety
asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will make a statement about when recommendation 6·5 of the Burgoyne report regarding the responsibility for off-shore safety vested in his Department alone will be implemented; and if he will ensure that the independent examination of "Management Emergencies" recommended by the Burgoyne report is implemented without delay, and that the committee to be set up to perform this task will be similarly constituted to the Burgoyne committee.
I shall answer my hon. Friend as soon as possible.
National Finance
European Community Budget
11.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what discussions he has had with European Economic Community Finance Ministers on restructuring the European Economic Community budget so as to provide a permanent formula for equitable national contributions.
We have had useful informal contacts. The Commission will report in June, and formal discussions will begin thereafter.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his latest estimate of the net United Kingdom contribution to the 1981 European Economic Community budget.
The latest estimate is that published in "The Government's Expenditure Plans 1981–82 to 1983–84"—Cmnd. 8175.
Joint Ventures (Accounting Rules)
13.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will take steps to ease Treasury rules of accounting, in order to facilitate joint ventures between nationalised industries and private industries.
The existing accounting rules pose no barrier to joint ventures. I welcome, for example, the recent formation of the company, Allied Steel and Wire, as a joint venture between BSC and private steelmakers.
Petrol Pump Markings (Price Adjustments)
14.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will take steps to make it voluntary, rather than obligatory, for markings on petrol pumps to be stamped by Customs and Excise officers whenever price adjustments are made, in the light of the high cost to the garage owners.
Customs and Excise officers have no responsibility for markings on retail petrol pumps. I believe my hon. Friend has in mind the requirement, for certain types of petrol pump whose price mechanism must by law be sealed, that a weights and measures inspector must certify and reseal the pump when the price is changed. This is the responsibility of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Trade, and I understand that he is satisfied that the requirement is necessary to protect the consumer and prevent fraudulent adjustments to the pricing mechanism.
Petrol Prices
20.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what recent representations he has received about the effect of his Budget proposals on petrol prices.
Over 200 letters from organisations, businesses and private individuals have been received.
Family Expenditure
21.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the proportion of gross pay a married man on average earnings with two children at school would pay in income tax, value added tax and national insurance contributions in May 1979 and May 1981, respectively.
I regret that it is not possible to estimate figures of this sort for individual months of the financial year.
Wholesale Prices (Increase)
22.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what study he has made of the official announcement of the increased 1 per cent. in wholesale prices due, according to that announcement, mainly to increased taxation; and what action he has taken or intends to take to stop this inflation.
The increase in tobacco and alcohol duties were necessitated by the medium term financial strategy. This is directed toward the permanent reduction of inflation.
Output And Employment
23.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when he expects clear figures to appear of an upturn in the level of national output and of employment.
There are now a number of clear indications that we are near the trough of the recession.
Civil Service Dispute
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his latest estimate of the effect on revenue collection of the Civil Service dispute; and if he will make a statement.
The latest information available indicates that about three quarters of the revenue due in April has been paid into the Exchequer accounts. An estimated £1¼ billion to £1½ billion of tax duties and national insurance contributions have been delayed, bringing the total backlog since the dispute started to between £2 and £2½ billion. As a result, the Government's borrowing requirement and the money supply are temporarily higher than they would otherwise have been. This will subsequently be corrected because the money owed to the Government will eventually be paid over. It presents no risk to the Government's economic strategy.
Tax Revenue (Alternative Sources)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he continues to seek viable alternative sources of taxation revenue as possible offset against the increase in fuel tax; and if he will make a statement.
I refer my hon. Friend to my statement during today's debate on clause 4 of the Finance Bill.
£ Sterling (Value)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the present value of the £ sterling, taking it as 100p in April 1979.
Taking the internal purchasing power of the £ sterling as 100p in April 1979, its value in March 1981, the latest period for which information is available, was 75p.
Benefits In Kind
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) what representations he has received as to the feasibility of employers being able to implement the proposal in clause 64 (2) of the Finance Bill 1981 that employers should be required to determine the cash equivalent of certain benefits and to apply the normal pay-as-you-earn procedures to them without the receipt of a specific notice of a change in coding from Her Majesty's inspector of taxes;
(2) what representations he has received as to the ability of employers to bear the compliance costs of implementing clause 64 (2) of the Finance Bill 1981; and whether he has formed any conclusions in respect of those representations;
(3) what representations have been received by Her Majesty's Treasury or by the Inland Revenue in response to the two consultative papers on benefits in kind, namely: the "Taxation of Cars and Petrol as Benefits in Kind" of 17 August 1979 and "Benefits in Kind—Consultations" of 30 May 1980; and whether he has formed any conclusions in respect of those representations.
I shall let my hon. Friend have a reply as soon as possible.
Money Supply
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer by how much he expects the level of aggregate demand to increase in each year covered by the medium-term financial strategy.
I expect the growth of aggregate demand in money terms to slow down in line with the reduction in the growth of the money supply set out in the medium term financial strategy. Changes in the real gross domestic product will depend on a variety of factors, notably on the extent of progress in further reducing the rate of inflation.
Industrial Building Allowances
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) what is his estimate of the cost of increasing industrial building allowances on hotels and associated buildings from 20 per cent. to 50 per cent. and 75 per cent., respectively;(2) if he will set out the basis of the estimate in the Financial Statement and Budget Report 1981–82 that the raising of initial building allowances for industrial premises from 50 per cent. to 75 per cent. would cost £10 million the first year and rise to a full year cost of £25 million.
I shall let my hon. Friend have a reply as soon as possible.
Duchy Of Cornwall (Income)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the annual income accruing to the Treasury from the Duchy of Cornwall in each of the last 10 years.
The net revenues of the Duchy of Cornwall accruing to the Consolidated Fund over each of the last 10 years are as follows:
| Year | £ |
| 1971 | 108,638 |
| 1972 | 132,523 |
| 1973 | 101,087 |
| 1974 | 72,828 |
| 1975 | 64,604 |
| 1976 | 140,302 |
| 1977 | 125,899 |
| 1978 | 128,191 |
| 1979 | 253,006 |
| 1980 | 275,222 |
Personal Allowances And Duties
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will now give estimates of the effect of his Budget measures on the retail price index and the tax and price index compared with the values they would have if personal allowances were increased in line with section 22(2) of the Finance Act 1977 and if duties were at their pre-Budget levels.
In terms of the impact effects, the retail price index will be around 2 per cent. higher and the tax and price index will be roughly 4½per cent. higher.
Environment
Courts Of Justice (Temperature)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment, in view of the fact that in the High Court on 14 April Mr. Justice Webster complained that the temperature in his court was always too high and ranged between 75° and 80° and that on that day it was about 80° and so hot that he and the others affected were given permission to remove their wigs, whether, in support of the Government's policy of conserving energy, he will take steps to see that the temperatures are kept down in the courts.
There are difficulties in controlling the temperatures of the courts in St. Dunstan's House as the chiller units currently installed are faulty. Urgent negotiations are in hand with the suppliers for replacements.
Rent Rebates And Allowances
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is his latest estimate of the annual cost of rent rebates and rent allowances, together, in England and Wales; and how much of the total is estimated to be payable to persons over retirement age.
The latest estimate of expenditure in England and Wales in 1980–81 on rent rebates and rent allowances, including amounts paid in effect through the supplementary benefit scheme, is £615 million. Of this, it is estimated that £402 million was paid to people over retirement age.
Council House Sales
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many council houses were sold by each local authority in each quarter since 1 July 1979; and what percentage of the total housing stock the total figure of sales represents in each case.
The information in the form requested by the hon. Gentleman can only be provided at disproportionate cost. However, the following information is available in publications in the Library of the House:
Local Authorities (Closed Shop)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will make payment of taxpayers' money to local authorities, including rate support grant, dependent on local authorities neither operating closed shops themselves nor requiring contractors or subcontractors working on their behalf to operate closed shops.
I have no powers to make the calculation and distribution of the rate support grant to local authorities conditional upon their staff management practices for which statutorily they bear the sole responsibility.
Airports (Siting)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether it is policy that provincial airports can be situated in green belt areas.
Yes; several airports were established before green belt policies were determined but in new cases this would be a substantial departure from the development plan and there would have to be overriding planning considerations.
Birmingham Airport
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether his determination of planning approval for the expansion of Birmingham airport affects the green belt status of the areas in which the airport is situated and the surrounding areas, or the nearby area surrounding the National Exhibition Centre.
The Secretary of State's letter of 28 May 1980 giving planning permission for the new terminal at Birmingham airport did not make any formal change to the green belt status of the area. The statutory development plan shows the airport and the area surrounding both it and the National Exhibition Centre as subject to green belt policies. The submitted West Midlands county council structure plan and the draft county council green belt subject local plan propose certain changes to green belt in this area.The submitted structure plan is currently being considered by my right hon. Friend. The draft subject plan is still open to representations.
Transport
Road Vehicles (Costs And Taxation)
asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will divide the figures given in his answer of 20 March 1981, Official Report, c. 205 and 206, relating to the taxation revenue and public road costs for goods vehicles over 30 cwt. unladen between those over 30 cwt. unladen weight but under 3·5 tonnes gross vehicle weight and those over 3·5 tonnes gross vehicle weight.
The information is as follows:
Goods Vehicles over 30 cwt. Unladen Taxation Revenue and Public Road Costs 1981/82—United Kingdom
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Vehicle Category
| Vehicle Numbers
| Estimated Taxation Revenue
| Costs attributed
| Revenue to cost ratio
| ||
000's
| VED £m
| Fuel Tax £m
| Total £m
| £m
| ||
| Goods Vehicles (over 30 cwt. unladen) | — | — | — | — | — | — |
| Not over 3·5 tonnes gvw | 74 | 10 | 20 | 30 | 8 | 3·7:1 |
| Over 3·5 tonnes gvw | 495 | 310 | 670 | 980 | 822 | 1·2:1 |
| 569 | 320 | 690 | 1010 | 830 | 1·2:1 | |
asked the Secretary of State for Transport why, in view of the recommendations of the Armitage report on lorries, people and the environment, he did not include a notional element of tax for damage to underground services by road vehicles in the public road costs totals in his answer of 20 March, Official Report, c. 205 and 206, relating to the costs and taxation of road vehicles.
As was indicated in Committee on the Transport Bill, we are reviewing some aspects of the track cost allocations and our review includes the particular recommendations in the Armitage report on the matter.
Road Vehicles (Underground Damage)
asked the Secretary of State for Transport what steps he is taking to identify the full extent of damage to underground services by road vehicles; and which road vehicles are primarily responsible.
The Transport and Road Research Laboratory is carrying out an investigation into conditions in which road vehicles, and in particular heavy vehicles, could be a factor in causing damage to underground pipes. A report on the first phase of the investigation has recently been published by the laboratory—report No. LR 954—and copies have been placed in the Library.
A38 (Alrewas-Burton)
asked the Secretary of State for Transport, following his reply to the hon. Member for Lichfield and Tamworth on 12 March, whether he has received a substantial body of objection to the draft statutory and compulsory purchase orders for a grade separated junction on the A38, Alrewas to Burton-on-Trent road with the junction of A513, Alrewas to Rugeley road; if so, when he anticipates a public inquiry will be held; and, if not, when he anticipates being able to make a final decision on whether to proceed with the scheme.
Twenty-six objections were received from individuals, companies and public bodies. Seven have since been withdrawn. A public inquiry is being arranged for June. The formal announcement of the inquiry will be published soon.
Public Stage Carriage Omnibuses (Inspections)
asked the Secretary of State for Transport, pursuant to his reply to the hon. Member for Newham, South, 13 April, when he will be able to estimate the total additional costs of annual inspections of public stage carriage omnibuses in order to comply with European Economic Community directive 77/143; and if he will make a statement.
The test fee for the new formal annual inspection of public service vehicles will be established later this year, and a partial estimate of costs will then be possible. Other costs, however, depend on decisions of individual public service vehicle operators—for example, whether they choose to invest in testing facilities at their own premises, or to send their vehicles for test elsewhere. This will not be known until the new testing scheme has been in operation for some time.
London And Liverpool Docks (Wages)
asked the Secretary of State for Transport when, and at what level, the latest wage settlements have been reached in Liverpool and London docks; and how these compared with cash limits in the public sector.
I shall answer this question shortly.
Agriculture, Fisheries And Food
Fisheries
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will list in tabular form the historic rights of other European States within the United Kingdom's 12-mile limits in the various fisheries around British coasts for the years 1972 and 1980.
"Historic rights" are generally considered to be those granted under the London Convention of 1964 to fish between 6 and 12 miles of baselines. A list showing rights granted under this convention in British waters has been placed in the Library of the House. The list is valid for both 1972 and 1980.
Farm Rents
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he expects to receive the results of the Country Landowners Association-National Farmers Union talks on fair farm rents; and if he will take steps to ensure that tenant farmers, landlords and owner-occupiers are more widely consulted before he introduces amending legislation to the 1958 and 1976 Acts.
I would prefer not to speculate on whether we might receive any such communication or what action we might take if we were to do so.
Holland
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will take steps to promote the United Kingdom and British agricultural products in Holland as a counter to that country's subsidised campaign to promote Holland and Dutch agricultural products in Great Britain.
The British food and agricultural industries are already promoting their products in the Netherlands with active Government encouragement.
Fish Conservation
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, pursuant to the Minister of State's reply to the hon. Member for Northampton, North on 9 April, Official Report, c. 317, how membership of the European Community offers the best opportunity of establishing a satisfactory conservation policy for fish in the waters of Northern Europe; and how this policy operates in respect of Iceland and Norway.
The satisfactory conservation of fisheries in the waters of Northern Europe depends on the cooperation of all the countries with rights to fish in the area. Such co-operation is more effective within the EEC as is illustrated by the agreement last September on a satisfactory conservation regime for member States' waters in the area and by broad agreement on a system of control.The Community has a number of framework agreements with other European States which provides for the rational management of joint stocks and requires each party to respect conservation measures applying within the other's fishery limits. Such an agreement has been reached with Norway and negotiations are in progress with Iceland.
European Community (Trade Statistics)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the net volume of trade between the United Kingdom and the European Economic Community Eight in each major food or agricultural commodity; what is the difference between the European Economic Community price and the world price in each case; and, by computation and addition, what is the cost to the British housewife over and above the cost of United Kingdom agricultural support.
I shall provide an answer as soon as possible.
Fishing Industry (Aid)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether arrangements have yet been completed for paying the new aid for the fishing industry announced on 30 March; and how this will affect departmental cash limits for 1981–82.
We have today published the full details of the Fishing Vessel Temporary Support Scheme 1981. Copies of the scheme have been placed in the Library.The aid will be in the form of payments to the owners of registered fishing vessels which were available for fishing on 30 March 1981 and which meet certain criteria designed to show that the vessel is genuinely a commercial fishing vessel. Payments will be graduated by reference to the length of vessels in accordance with the scale which I announced on 15 April. Claim forms and explanatory notes are available from local sea fisheries offices and vessel owners are advised to contact their local offices as soon as possible. Applications are to be submitted by 29 May 1981.Subject to parliamentary approval of the necessary Supplementary Estimates, the increase of £25 million to cover aid to the fishing industry announced on 30 March will be distributed as follows: £12,340,000 to the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food to meet expenditure arising in both England and Northern Ireland; £12,260,000 to the Department of Agriculture and Fisheries for Scotland; and £400,000 to the Welsh Office. The cash limits for Class III, Vote 5, Class XV, Vote 2 and Class XVI, Vote 5 will be increased from £29,712,000 to £40,567,000, from £57,181,000 to £68,870,000: and from £81,017,000 to £81,189,000 respectively. At £22,716,000 these increases total £2,284,000 less than the amount of assistance being provided because offsetting savings are being made. Of the £25 million some £18·4 million has been charged to the contingency Reserve; the difference is accounted for by the savings referred to above and the fact that £4·3 million of expenditure was not reflected in Main Estimates, but was in public expenditure plans. The total assistance is thus accommodated within the Government's published plan for total public expenditure in 1981–82.
Glasshouse Industry
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he has yet reached a decision on temporary aid for the United Kingdom glasshouse industry, which is facing unfair competition from growers in other parts of the European Economic Community who enjoy subsidised fuel prices.
Yes. The Government propose to introduce, in accordance with guidelines laid down by the European Community Commission, a short-term adaptation aid to enable growers of heated protected crops to adjust to the distortions of competition in this sector brought about by the preferential gas tariff for horticulturists in Holland which is currently the subject of unresolved legal action under the Rome Treaty. Three other member States, Germany, France and Belgium, have taken advantage of the Commission guidelines, and the aid we are giving takes maximum advantage of these.In order to simplify administration and make payments as quickly as possible, it is intended to relate the aid to the costs which growers incur on heavy and light fuel oil used for the production of such crops during the period 1 January to 31 December 1981, and in respect of which applications are made for rebate of fuel oil duty to the Customs and Excise departmant under section 17 of the Hydrocarbon Oil Duties Act 1979. The adaptation aid will be paid at the rate of 5p on each gallon of heavy fuel oil and 8p on each gallon of gas oil in respect of which rebate of duty is claimed.The scheme is estimated to cost up to £5·5 million. Of this sum £3·5 million will be met from the Contingency Reserve, the remainder being found from within existing programmes through additional receipts from land sales. The full cost of the scheme is thus met within the Government's existing plans for total public expenditure. A Supplementary Estimate will be laid in due course: payments will rest on the authority of the Estimate and the confirming Appropriation Act.Further details will be announced shortly.
Laxton Estate
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he has completed the sale of the Laxton estate; and if he will make a statement.
The House will recall that I announced on 28 November 1979 that the Laxton estate was to be included in the programme of land sales being carried out by this Ministry as provided for in the White Paper on the Government's expenditure plans for 1980–81. I made it clear at that time, and subsequently, that the sale was being treated as a special case and the estate would only be offered to those able to give the necessary assurances about the future of the system and the welfare of the tenants.I am glad to inform the House that the terms of a sale have now been agreed by this Ministry with the Crown Estate Commissioners for a price of £1 million This price took into account a number of constraints which are due to the Ministry's policy of management resulting from the unique role and structure of the estate. I feel sure that the House will welcome the transfer of this historic estate to a body of such a high reputation. The Crown Estate Commissioners have given me an undertaking that it will be their intention to continue as at present organised the open field system and associated customs which are the principal features of this historic estate, and that reasonable educational facilities will continue to be made available.
Northern Ireland
School Management
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland when he intends to publish the proposals for a draft instrument relating to his recent announcement of changes in the system of school management in Northern Ireland.
Consultations with the major interests about the proposals for changes in the arrangements for school management in Northern Ireland are proceeding. It is intended to publish a proposal for a draft Order in Council as soon as is practicable thereafter.
School Governors (Astin Report)
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will make a statement about the Astin report on the governing bodies of schools in Northern Ireland.
The Government have accepted in principle most of the Astin report's recommendations, including one that parents and assistant teachers should be represented on the boards of governors of every grant-aided school in Northern Ireland. Proposals for the overall composition of the new boards of governors are still being discussed with the major interests involved in school management, a proposal for a draft order will be published as soon as possible after the consultations are complete. My noble Friend, the Lord Elton, gave a fuller account of the Government's position in announcements made on 18 March and 7 April, copies of which have been placed in the Library.
Maze Prison (Visit)
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what representations he has received from Protestant leaders in Northern Ireland about the effect on future co-operation in achieving effective locally constituted government in the Province of his decision to allow three members of the Dublin Parliament to visit the Maze prison; and if he will make a statement.
I have received no representations of the kind described by my hon. Friend, althought the leaders of both the Ulster Unionist Party and the Democratic Unionist Party have made clear their disagreement with the decision to allow the visit. No indication has been given to me that this difference of view will affect the desire of the parties to find an acceptable basis on which powers can be transferred to locally-elected representatives in Northern Ireland.
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what explanation of the purpose of their proposed visit to the Maze prison was given to him by the three Members of the Dublin Parliament; and whether he sought any assurances from them about the nature of any public statements they would subsequently make about the visit, before allowing it to take place.
I was not in touch with the three Members of the Dublin Parliament at any time. It follows that no explanation of the purpose of the visit was given to me, nor did I ask for one; nor did I seek any assurances of the kind mentioned.
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland whom he consulted before he gave permission for three Members of the Dublin Parliament to visit the Maze prison; and, in particular, whether he had any discussions with (a) the Irish Prime Minister, his officials, any Members of the Dublin Parliament or their representatives and (b) any priest or official of the Roman Catholic Church.
The decision whether to allow the visit was a matter for the Government alone, and there was no consultation with any of the persons mentioned in the question.
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what factors led him to decide to allow three Members of the Dublin Parliament to visit the Maze prison.
The prisoner had himself asked to see the three Members of the Dublin Parliament, and in all the circumstances—in particular the prisoner's condition after seven weeks of refusing food and the possibility that he might be persuaded to give up his hunger strike—I thought it right to allow the visit to take place.
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will call for a report from the Chief Constable of Northern Ireland on the role played by the Royal Ulster Constabulary during the visit of the three Member's of the Dublin Parliament to the Maze prison; and what was the cost of the operations.
I see no reason to call for such a report. The chief constable alone is responsible for the deployment of the police. As security for the visit was provided by police officers in the normal course of their duties, no additional expense was incurred.
Terrorists (Release From Prison)
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will list the female terrorists who have been
| Case No. | Date of first reception in prison | Sentence | Date released | Normal release date with remission |
| 1 | 13 March 1973 | Life imprisonment; 20 years' imprisonment | 22 April 1981 | March 1983 |
| 2 | 23 October 1976 | Detention during the Secretary of State's pleasure; 16 years' imprisonment | 10 January 1981 | October 1984 |
| 3 | 13 March 1973 | Life imprisonment; 20 years' imprisonment | 30 April 1980 | March 1983 |
| 4 | 2 August 1974 | 10 years' imprisonment | 8 November 1978 | August 1979 |
| 5 | 13 November 1976 | 7 years' imprisonment | 1 September 1978 | May 1980 |
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what proportion of terrorists have been released early from prison in Northern Ireland in the last 12 years (a) male and (b) female; and what is the reason for any differences between the two figures.
released early from prison for medical reasons, giving in each case the name, the date of imprisonment, the length of sentence awarded, the date of release, how early they were released against full remission and their present physical state.
There have been five such cases. It is not the practice to give names.
Since 1972, the earliest year for which information is available, 38 men and eight women sentenced for terrorist-type offences have been released early for various reasons including medical grounds. It is not possible without disproportionate effort to express these numbers as a proportion of all prisoners sentenced for such offences during the period in question, but clearly the proportion released early is very small.No meaningful comparison can be made between the two figures.