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Written Answers

Volume 9: debated on Tuesday 28 July 1981

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday 28 July 1981

Trade

Grimsby Marine Office (Closure)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade (1) if he is satisfied that after the closure of the Grimsby marine office the ports of (a) Boston, in view of its location considerably south of Hull, and (b) Immingham, in view of its size, will be satisfactorily served by Hull; and if he will make a statement;(2) what are his intentions regarding the future of the staff of the Grimsby marine office, due to close on 2 October.;(3) if he will publish details in the

Official Report of the cost of closing down the Grimsby marine office on 2 October;

(4) what were the reasons for the choice of 2 October as the date to close the Grimsby marine office;

(5) what representations he has received from industry in general, arid the fishing industry in particular, concerning the closure of the marine office in Grimsby.

With effect from 2 October 1981 the Department's marine survey and mercantile marine offices in Grimsby will be closed and their functions transferred to the marine district office in Hull: the fishing vessel office will, however, be retained in Grimsby. The opening of the Humber bridge, the need to notify the industry and management considerations influenced the timing of the closure. It is my Department's intention to continue to provide a satisfactory service on marine safety matters throughout the East of England marine district, which includes the ports of Boston and Immingham. My Department has very carefully considered representations from the industry and other interested parties but the proposed transfer of functions to Hull is part of a necessary general reorganisation and rationalisation of survey and mercantile marine offices throughout the United Kingdom which is expected to result in more effective use of resources and overall savings in costs. The position of the staff in Grimsby affected by the closures is under consideration.

Bankruptcies

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what has been the number of bankruptcy cases dealt with by county courts in (a) Wolverhampton and (b) the West Midlands for each of the last five years; and what has been the percentage change in each year for both areas.

The figures are as follows:

Bankruptcies: Net Cases Administered
WolverhamptonWest Midlands County (includes Wolverhampton)
NumberPercentage Change on previous yearNumberPercentage Change on Previous year
197636NIL379-2
197715(a)189(a)
197818+20179-5
197915-17153-15
198012-20190+24
(a) There is a break in continuity between 1976 and 1977 because of the increase in December 1976 in monetary limits in bankruptcy proceedings and in deposits on petitions.

British Gas Corporation

asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether, before he reached his decision to require the British Gas Corporation to divest itself of its retailing activities, any survey was made, either nationally or for any area, of the alternative provision of local retailing facilities for gas appliances and other services; if he will conduct such a survey in the North Thames Gas area having particular regard to the area covered by the high street, Harlesden and the high street, Wembley showrooms; and if he will review his decision in respect of any areas where it can be shown that inadequate alternatives exist.

Without making individual street surveys the Government took account both of the alternative facilities for gas appliance retailing that already exist and of the interest expressed by private sector retailers in starting or expanding sales of gas appliances.

Insider Dealing

asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many cases of alleged insider dealing have been referred to him by the Stock Exchange in the past 12 months; how many of these have resulted in prosecution; if he is satisfied with the system of self-policing by the Stock. Exchange; and if he is considering any new measures to counter insider dealing.

The insider dealing provisions of the Companies Act 1980 have been in force since 23 June 1980. Since then the Stock Exchange has referred to my Department information about dealings involving the securities of 16 companies. None of this information has yet led to a prosecution; but some of it is still under investigation. My Department is in close contact with the Stock Exchange, which plays a valuable part in the enforcement of the statutory provisions by making preliminary enquiries into unusual movements in the prices of listed securities, and in appropriate cases referring the results to my Department. It would be premature to consider new measures to counter insider dealing.

European Community—Newly Industrialising Countries

asked the Secretary of State for Trade European Economic Community if he will list the figures for imports into the European Economic Community from newly industrialising countries over the past 10 years.

Company Accounts (Audit)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he has received an application from the Association of Cost and Executive Accountants to be approved by him for the purpose of auditing company accounts; what has been his response; and if he will make a statement.

The Association of Cost and Executive Accountants has sought a change in the law which would permit its members to audit the accounts of small and medium-sized companies. I do not believe that it would be right to require different levels of auditors' qualifications according to the size of the company whose accounts were to be audited. If the association makes an application for recognition under the existing law, as a body whose members are eligible to audit the accounts of any company, I shall of course consider it.

Export Statistics

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will list the United Kingdom's export figures since 1965 in oil, manufactured goods and food, respectively, with (a) the European Economic Community, (b) North America and (c) the rest of the world.

Energy

Electricity Generation

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what is the effective margin of spare capacity in the electricity generating industry, assuming that all possible steps had been taken to meet the demand and that the pattern of demand was the same as it was in 1973; by how much revenue would increase if the capacity was fully utilised on this basis; and by how much the consumption of oil and coal would be increased to generate the electricity required.

Houses Of Parliament

Telephone Costs

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster how much is spent annually on telephones in the Houses of Parliament.

For the financial year 1980–81, the telephone account for the Palace of Westminster was £1,245,062·80.

Prime Minister

Engagements

Q5.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 28 July.

Q7.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 28 July.

Q8.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 28 July.

Q9.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 28 July.

Q11.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 28 July.

Q12.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 28 July.

Q13.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 28 July.

Q 14.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 28 July.

Q15.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 28 July.

Q16.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 28 July.

Q17.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 28 July.

Q18.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 28 July.

Q19.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 28 July.

Q20.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 28 July.

Q21.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 28 July.

Q22.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 28 July.

Q23.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 28 July.

Q24.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 28 July.

Q25.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 28 July.

Q26.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 28 July.

Q27.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 28 July.

Q28.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 28 July.

Q29.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 28 July.

Q30.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements on Tuesday 28 July.

Q31.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 28 July.

Q33.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 28 July.

Q34.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 28 July.

Q35.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 28 July.

Q36.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 28 July.

Q37.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 28 July.

Q38.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 28 July.

Q39.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 28 July.

Q40.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 28 July.

Q42.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 28 July.

Q43.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 28 July.

Q44.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 28 July.

Q45.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her public engagements for 28 July.

Q46.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 28 July.

Q47.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for 28 July.

Q48.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 28 July.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 28 July.

This morning I had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others including the President of Cyprus, the Prime Minister of Barbados and Mr. Rajiv Ghandi. In addition to my duties in the House I shall have a meeting later today with the President of the Federal Republic. of Germany. This evening I shall attend a supper given by Her Majesty the Queen on the eve of the marriage of His Royal Highness the Prince of Wales to the Lady Diana Spencer.

Public Sector Borrowing Requirement

Q10.

asked the Prime Minister whether she is satisfied with the practice of combining current and capital financial requirements in the figures for the public sector borrowing requirement.

Yes. The public sector borrowing requirement measures the net financing need of the public sector, after taking account of its surplus on current account, capital expenditure and receipts. The appropriate balance between taxation, expenditure, internal financing of the trading corporations and borrowing are the essence of fiscal policy. Within total public expenditure, we aim to maximise worthwhile capital expenditure.

Government Policy (Implementation)

Q32.

asked the Prime Minister if she is satisfied with the Government's progress in implementing the proposals contained in the Queen's Speech.

Good progress continues to be made with the objectives and policies set out in the Gracious Speech. In particular, of the 20 Bills foreshadowed in the Speech, 10 have so far been enacted and a further eight should become law before the end of the Session. The remaining measures—the Petroleum and Continental Shelf Bill and the legislation to provide for an employers' statutory sick pay scheme—will now be included in the legislative programme for the next Session.

Confederation Of British Industry

Q41.

asked the Prime Minister when she next intends to meet the leaders of the Confederation of British Industry.

Woodhead Tunnel

asked the Prime Minister whether Her Majesty's Government intend to buy from British Railways the Woodhead tunnel for defence purposes or for the disposal of nuclear waste.

Home Department

Police

55.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will give the reasons why he will not request the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis to cut down on the large numbers of police being supplied to private and business ventures such as the Wimbledon tennis tournament, Ascot races, the test matches and similar functions.

Decisions on the deployment of manpower in the Metropolitan Police district are a matter for the Commissioner.

Repatriation

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, pursuant to the Minister of State's reply to the hon. Member for Newham, North-West on 16 July about repatriation, whether he will take steps to refuse re-entry to the United Kingdom to those who have been assisted to return to their country of origin.

No; but a person would have to qualify for re-entry under the immigration rules. The rules already provide that—except as regards Commonwealth citizens settled here when the Immigration Act 1971 came into force—previous residence is not a qualification for re-entry if a person received assistance from public funds towards the cost of leaving.

Police (Injuries)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, how many police officers have retired from the police force as a result of injuries sustained in the course of their duty so far in 1981; and what was the compensation paid to each police officer sustaining such injuries.

I regret that this information is not available centrally and cannot be obtained without dispropotionate cost. Benefits are payable under the police pensions regulations when an officer has to retire as a result of injury on duty. As to these and to awards under the criminal injuries compensation scheme, I refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to his earlier question on this subject on 5 December 1980.

Hackney Carriage Licences

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many licences have been granted by the Metropolitan Police to individuals who are not full-time hackney carriage drivers; how applications are checked; and if there is any evidence of abuse of the system whereby full-time employees in outside industries work extra hours in private hire vehicles.

The information requested in the first part of the question is not available. The application procedures for cab drivers licences are set out in the London Cab Order 1934; the checking of applications is a matter for the licensing authority. Private hire vehicles in London are not licensed and no information is available about whether their drivers are full-time or not.

Citizens Band Radio

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will give his estimate as to the number of illegal 27 MHz AM citizens band sets now operating in the United Kingdom.

The available information is not sufficient to form a reliable estimate, but present indications are that the number of illicit users of 27 MHz AM citizens band equipment is now significantly higher than the figure given in the reply to a question by my hon. Friend the Member for Faversham (Mr. Moate) on 7 May.—[Vol. 4, c. 256.]

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will give an estimate as to the length of time before he is in a position to authorise the use of the lower end of the 26 to 28 MHz band for citizens band radio users.

I regret that this is not possible at this stage. My first priority must remain the introduction of a viable legal service in the autumn.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will now announce his decision on the proposed derating of citizens band radio aerials.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will announce the date for the introduction of a legal citizens band radio service.

I have nothing to add at this stage to the answer I gave in reply to a question by my hon. Friend on 24 June.—[Vol. 7, c. 104.]

Prisons (Suicides And Attempted Suicides)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, pursuant to his reply to the hon. Member for Wolverhampton, North-East on 6 May, if he is yet able to make a statement on changes in the guidance issued to prison staff about suicides and attempted suicides.

We are discussing revised guidance with the trade union side and we hope to be able to issue a circular instruction shortly.

Independent Local Radio (Levy)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he intends to bring into force the provisions in the Broadcasting Act 1980 relating to the independent local radio levy.

I intend shortly to make a commencement order which will bring section 26 and schedule 4 to the Broadcasting Act 1980—which provides for a levy on the profits of the independent local radio contractors—into effect on 1 October 1981.

National Finance

Petrol And Derv

54.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what impact he expects the increased petrol and derv prices to have upon employment and upon employment in the textile and clothing and paper and board industries in particular.

Outstanding Tax (Interest Waiver)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will agree to waive interest due on outstanding tax when, by reason of the industrial action now being taken by civil servants, the taxpayers concerned have not received value added tax repayments equal to or greater than the tax withheld.

Collectors of taxes are refraining from pressing businesses for payment of taxes where they are in financial difficulty as a result of the interruption of VAT refunds. In certain cases this could have resulted in interest charges on overdue amounts. Accordingly a new clause moved by the Government was introduced in the Finance Bill on 14 July. The clause will give businesses exemption from interest on overdue tax where payments of corresponding amounts from Government Departments have been delayed by the Civil Service dispute, except to the extent that payments of non-interest bearing PAYE and NIC liabilities have been withheld.

Private Risk Capital

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will list the measures he has taken during the life of the present Government to encourage private risk capital into British businesses of all types; and if in further pursuit of risk capital he will seek to grant the same income tax concessions to direct investment in the equity of British business as are enjoyed by investors in pension schemes.

Specific measures have included the business start-up scheme, the venture capital scheme, a reduction in the small companies rate of corporation tax and abolition of the apportionment rules for the trading income of close trading companies, extension of relief for interest on borrowings to invest in close companies, partnerships and industrial co-operatives, and others. We have also taken more general measures, including reductions in marginal rates of income tax, and the abolition of dividend, pay, price and exchange controls. We have increased the threshold for the investment income surcharge and increased the capital gains tax exempt allowance. All these have a part to play in increasing the rewards from risk investment. We have also taken steps to arrange the return to the private sector of public sector activities. I have noted the suggestion made by my hon. Friend in the second half of his question, but in my view the specific measures that we have already taken will prove to be the most helpful way of using the limited resources available to encourage investment where it is most needed.

Houses Of Parliament

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how much it has cost to run the Houses of Parliament (a) in the last 12-month period and (b) in the last three years.

(a) £51 million (provisional) for 1980–81 (b) £128 million (provisional) for 1978–79, 1979–80 and 1980–81.These figures include administration and computers, Members' and Peers' salaries and allowances, accommodation and the cost of printing and publication.

Coinage

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many 50p coins have been minted in each year since the coin was introduced, including an estimate for 1981; and if he is satisfied that the demand for these coins is being met.

The number of 50p coins minted each year since the coin was introduced in 1969 is listed below:

Number of Pieces Millions
1969164·100
197039·900
19713·850
19720·001
197316·889
197425·400
197541·500
197628·050
197727·596
197897·386

Number of Pieces Millions

197958·900
198094·035

*1981

120·000

* Estimated.

I am satisfied that the demand for these coins is being met.

£ Sterling

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the increase in the nominal exchange rate between the £ sterling and each of the currencies of the main manufacturing countries since 1973 and since the fourth quarter of 1976; to what extent this reflects the increase in relative prices; and if he will account for the change in each case.

Oil Prices (Revenue)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will publish in the Official Report a table showing the additional revenue which the Government would collect in a full financial year as a result of an increase of 10 per cent. in the price of oil in (a) current conditions and (b) when the industry has exhausted tax reliefs, on the basis of current output, together with the additional cost to manufacturing industry and the whole economy in current circumstances of oil and imported raw materials as a result of a 10 per cent. appreciation of the dollar.

Family Income

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) if he will publish a table similar to the reply to the hon. Member for Kensington, 15 July 1981, and for the same family types, distinguishing where appropriate between the tax allowance and the child benefit component and including two-earner married couples, showing the weekly value in £ sterling of (a) current supplementary benefit scale rate, (b) current tax thresholds or tax-free incomes, and (c) tax thresholds or tax-free incomes under schemes 1 to 4 put forward in Cmnd. 8093, "The Taxation of Husband and Wife";(2) if he will publish a table similar to the reply to the hon. Member for Kensington on 15 July 1981 comparing tax allowances with supplementary benefit entitlement levels for 1981 under the existing system and under the main options proposed in Cmnd. 8093, "The Taxation of Husband and Wife", but including figures for two-earner married couples; and if he will include a further column showing tax threshold or tax-free incomes as percentage:; of supplementary benefit entitlement level under the existing system.

Public Expenditure (Housing)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate for 1981–82, at 1981 cash prices, of total United Kingdom public expenditure on housing, including mortgage tax relief.

Pay-As-You-Earn Tax (Unrecovered Debt)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer haw much pay-as-you-earn income tax was written off as unrecovered debt in the accounting year ending 31 October 1980.

Unemployment Costs

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the additional cost to the Government for each additional man who becomes unemployed, assuming that he has a wife and two children and was previously earning the average industrial wage.

Cable And Wireless Ltd

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether the borrowings of Cable and Wireless Ltd., other than for short-term finance, and its profits, are included in the public sector borrowing requirement.

Overseas Investment

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the net new investment overseas by Unted Kingdom institutions in the years 1979–80, 1980–81, and so far in 1981–82.

Investment Income

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the best estimate of the loss of revenue under a scheme of mandatory independent taxation due to the reduction in the tax due from investment income of married couples if (a) no transfers of capital between spouses were made and (b) optimum transfers were made by all married couples to minimise tax liabilty; and what: (i) increase in investment income surcharge or (ii) lowering of the investment income surcharge threshold would be necessary in order to recover a sum equal to that under (a) and under (b), respectively.

[pursuant to his reply, 16 July 1981, c. 434.] The hon. Member does not specify which scheme of mandatory independent taxation he has in mind. The loss of revenue arising from the taxation of a wife's investment income as her income was calculated in very broad terms at 1980–81 income levels for each of the four schemes described in appendix 6 of Cmnd. 8093 "The Taxation of Husband and Wife". In these calculations it was assumed that no transfers of capital were made, and that husband and wife would have a serprate threshold for the investment income surcharge at the same level as that for a single person. These results are given in table 18 of Background Paper No. 2 to Cmnd. 8093 and are in column 1 in the following table.Very broad estimates of the increase in the investment income surcharge required to provide an equivalent yield are shown in column 2. These are calculated on top of the assumption that each new scheme of taxation had been adopted and that the increase would apply to everyone, not married couples alone. I regret that a reliable estimate of the equivalent reduction in the threshold, and the information requested in part

(b), cannot be provided without undue expenditure of time and resources.

(1)

(2)

Loss of revenue due to taxation of a wife's investment income as her income

Increase in investment income surcharge producing equivalent yield

£ million 1980–81 income levels

per cent.

Scheme 1 (non-transferable allowances)500

*30

Scheme 2 (fully transferable allowances)25015
Scheme 3 (Partially transferable allowances)40025
Scheme 4 (Child benefit option)500

*30

* This would produce marginal tax rates of over 100 per cent, for some higher rate payers—for example, 60 per cent.+45 per cent, surcharge—and so should be considered as purely illustrative.

Married Man's Tax Allowance

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether the estimate he gave of the revenue saved from the abolition of the married man's tax allowance in his reply to the hon. Member for Barking (Miss Richards), Official Report. 31 March 1981, column 62, included the savings that would result from the abolition of the additional personal allowances; and what this saving would be.

[pursuant to his reply, 20 July 1981, c. 42]: No. The abolition of the additional personal allowance would save about £90 million in a full year at 1981–82 income levels.

Husband And Wife (Taxation)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many responses he has had to his Green Paper on the taxation of husband and wife, if he will list the organisations who have replied, and when he will be in a position to bring forward proposals.

[pursuant to his reply, 20 July 1981, c. 42]: So far over 400 individuals and organisations have submitted comments on the Green Paper to the Inland Revenue. The organisations that have commented include:

  • 1. United Kingdom Federation of Business and Professional Women.
  • 2. League of Jewish Women.
  • 3. Amalgamated Union of Engineering Workers (Technical, Administrative and Supervisory Section).
  • 4. Campaign for Justice in Divorce.
  • 5. Social Security Advisory Committee.
  • 6. Equal Opportunities Commission for Northern Ireland.
  • 7. Country Landowners Association.
  • 8. National Federation of Women's Institutes.
  • 9. General and Municipal Workers' Union.
  • 10. Equal Opportunities Commission.
  • 11. British Federation of University Women.
  • 12. Age Concern.
  • 13. Women's National Commission.
  • It would be helpful, as I have said previously, if comments could be sent to the Inland Revenue by the end of October 1981. The Government will not bring forward any proposals for further action until they have studied and assessed the comments on the Green Paper.

    Isle Of Man (Bank Records)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will initiate action in the light of the recent court of appeal judgment in R. v. Grossman to the effect that the Inland Revenue has no power to investigate bank records in the Isle of Man; and if this judgment will affect efforts by United Kingdom authorities to prevent tax avoidance by the use of the Isle of Man as a tax haven.

    [pursuant to his reply, Tuesday 21 July 1981, c. 92]: The Inland Revenue is studying the implications of the Court of Appeal's judgment in Regina v Grossman; it is too soon to assess its effects.

    Small Business Premises

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will introduce legislation to permit the Inland Revenue to allow licences for short-term tenancies of small business premises to benefit from the provisions of the Capital Allowances Act 1968, in line with the recommendations of the Department of Industry's report on small business premises.

    [pursuant to his reply, 24 July 1981]: I have noted my hon. Friend's suggestion.

    Manufacturing Industry

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will publish in the Official Report a table showing the components of the index of wholesale price inputs of materials purchased by manufacturing industry, showing in particular fuel and materials which are wholly or mainly imported.

    I have been asked to reply. Detailed information is published once a month in British Business, for example in the 23 July 1981 issue. Detailed figures for a run of years were last published in the 1 May 1981 issue.

    Scotland

    Scottish Islands (Shipping Services)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is now in a position to make a statement on further proposals for assistance to shipping services to the Scottish islands.

    The Government are committed to the survival and prosperity of the Scottish island communities, and recognise that the cost of sea transport to the islands is an important factor.Since taking office the Government have increased the total assistance to Scottish shipping services from £4·3 million in 1979–80 to around £9·5 million in 1981–82. This increased assistance has restricted the increases in charges which would otherwise have been necessary on Caledonian MacBrayne's West Coast services, and on the services of the Orkney Islands Shipping Company. It has also enabled the introduction of substantial rebates on charges on the main P and O services to Orkney and Shetland, and on almost all bulk cargoes to the Scottish islands. These arrangements have been widely welcomed by local industry and commercial interests.We issued in March 1980 a consultative paper on the structure of assistance to island shipping services This examined the implications of moving towards an operating cost RET system of charges. Responses have stressed the importance of sea transport costs to the islands' economies and agree that these should be lower. A number of responses, in particular those from Strathclyde regional council, Western Isles islands council and Shetland islands council, suggested that any strict application of RET would lead to a disproportionate and indeed inappropriate amount of any extra aid going to the shorter ferry crossings. There was also a preference for an RET system based on running costs rather than operating costs.My hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State visited Norway late last year to examine its ferry charging policy. We are grateful for the kindness and courtesy which was extended on that occasion. It is clear that, although Norway has a standard, mileage-related tariff for shipping fares—which is very low—this is not a road equivalent tariff since it does not relate to vehicle operating or running costs. The Norwegians do not have a ready-made charging formula which could be considered for application to Scotland.The responses to the consultative document suggest a need for a system of distributing assistance which is more flexible and more easily understood than the present arrangements. The Government stand by their manifesto pledge to move towards RET. For expenditure reasons, changes will inevitably depend on the extent to which additional resources can be made available over the years ahead.The Government accept that they should aim for the adoption of running costs RET as opposed to operating costs RET. This is the logical system since the haulier continues to have to bear standing charges during the vehicle's transport by sea.A number of responses from the more remote islands pointed out that a rigid applicaton of RET to the longer sea routes would produce higher fares than those now being paid. It is therefore the Government's intention to modify the RET principle for the longer routes to take this into account.To provide for running costs RET on the basis outlined in this statement Government financial assistance would have to be doubled. This is clearly not possible at the present time and it will therefore, be necessary to phase in any increases. We therefore aim to introduce a system from the 1982–83 financial year leading towards an RET basis for charges and distribution of assistance among the Scottish routes.

    The Government consider that local interest can be brought to bear on decisions on which traffic should receive the benefits. It is therefore our intention, after discussion with Caledonian MacBrayne, to enter into a new undertaking with that company so that grants may be made on the basis of groups of routes. The company would be expected to continue to consult its advisory committees, which consist of representatives of local interests, on the necessary changes to its fares structure in the forthcoming year. We intend to ensure that the company, within its general need to obtain sufficient revenue from a particular group of routes, takes the committee's view into account in deciding on actual rates.

    On the Northern Isles routes, there already exists a system of consultation with the local interests to decide on the application of a fixed level of Government aid. Under the new arrangements the total amount available for the Northern Isles will be decided on the same basis as on the West Coast and the existing arrangements for discussions will continue.

    These proposed new arrangements will be the subject of further consultation with interested parties and I propose to make a further statement after the recess giving details of how the new system will operate.

    Forestry (Grant-Aid And Felling Controls System)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is now in a position to make a statement on the changes to be made in the forestry grant-aid and felling controls systems, as foreshadowed in the statement made to Parliament on 10 December 1980.

    Yes. In the light of the comments received on the Forestry Commission's consultative paper the Government have decided to introduce the following arrangements.A new forestry grant scheme will be started on 1 October 1981 aimed at encouraging private forestry to undertake a greater share of future planting, as envisaged in our December policy statement. The scheme has been designed to retain the practical advantages of the earlier grant arrangements whilst reducing costs by simplifying the administrative and legal procedures. It will offer a range of planting grants as set out in Table 1. These will be reviewed periodically by the Forestry Commission having regard to the average costs of establishing private woodlands, as indicated by the surveys carried out by the Universities of Oxford and Aberdeen. The first such review will take effect from 1 October 1982 and subsequent reviews will be carried out at two-yearly intervals. We have also decided that grant payments should be made on the basis of self-certification, subject to a system of spotchecks by the Commission.The new scheme will cater for individual areas of 0·25 hectares and over and will be open to both owners and tenants. Applications will be subject to approval by the Forestry Commission after consultation, as before, with the appropriate statutory authorities on land use and environmental considerations. As with the basis III dedication scheme, applicants will be required to undertake to enter into discussions, if requested by the local authority, with a view to negotiating an access agreement; this undertaking will not, however, bind the applicant to conclude any such agreement.Under the dedication schemes, owners do not require a licence to comply with felling prescriptions in a plan of operations approved by the Forestry Commission, and provision will shortly be made by order for a similar exemption for those working to a plan of operations under the new scheme. As in the case of earlier schemes, woodlands grant-aided under the new scheme will not be subject to the application of tree preservation orders under the terms of the Town and Country Planning Acts except with the consent of the Forestry Commission.Fuller details of the forestry grant scheme are set out in an explanatory leaflet available in the Vote Office and from Forestry Commission offices.The new scheme supersedes the dedication basis III and small woods schemes which were closed to further applications from 1 July 1981. Existing contracts with the Forestry Commission under those schemes, and the earlier basis I and basis II schemes which were closed in 1972, will continue but any applications for the inclusion of additional areas will be dealt with under the new scheme. In order to save administrative costs, however, opportunities will be taken whenever possible to reduce the number of dedicated estates. Owners will accordingly be encouraged to transfer to the new scheme, and on a change of ownership of dedicated land on or after 1 August 1981 the Forestry Commission will decline to enter into a fresh deed or agreement with the new owner. These changes are in accordance with recommendations made after a Rayner study and will lead in due course to administrative savings of the order of £250,000 per annum at 1980 survey prices.A review of grants under dedication II and III and the small woods schemes has now been completed and we have agreed to revised rates being introduced from 1 October 1980 as set out in table 2. These represent substantial increases over the existing rates. We have also agreed to reduce the period between reviews to two years; the next review will therefore fall due in October next year.Any future grant adjustments, whether under the old or the new schemes, will of course need to be contained within agreed cash limits and take account of the economic circumstances at the time.Final decisions have yet to be taken on the changes in the felling control system proposed in the consultative paper, and these will be the subject of a separate statement. When they have been announced, the Forestry Commission will enter into discussions aimed at simplifying and speeding up the consultative procedures in the light of the comments already received.The changes I have announced today are tangible evidence of the importance we attach to the continuing expansion of forestry and our wish to see private interests playing a larger part in it. The new grant scheme, with its simplified procedures and realistic grant levels, will allow private forestry to look to the future with assurance.

    Table 1
    New Forestry Grant Scheme
    Grant Rates Effective from 1 October 1981
    per hectare
    Area of WoodConifersBroadleaves
    ££
    0·25 ha – 0·9 ha600850
    1·0 ha – 2·9 ha480700
    3·0 ha – 9·9 ha400600
    10·0 ha and over230450

    Payment of these amounts will be made in two instalments—80 per cent. on completion of planting, the remainder five years later subject to satisfactory establishment.

    Table 2

    Dedication and Small Woods Schemes

    Gram Rates Effective from 1 October 1980

    per hectare

    £

    Basis II Dedication

    Planting grant105
    Management grant (per annum)—
    first 40 hectares4·80
    second 40 hectares3·25
    balance2·00

    Basis III Dedication

    Planting grant—
    Conifers140
    Broadleaves315
    Management grant (per annum)4·20

    Small Woods Scheme

    Planting grant—
    Areas from 0·25 to 2·9 hectares

    *420

    Areas from 3 to 9·9 hectares

    *350

    * 75 per cent, payable on completion of planting and the remainder five years later subject to satisfactory establishment.

    Nuclear Shelters

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is his policy towards the construction of nuclear shelters in Scotland; how many have been built; and how many are currently the subject of planning applications.

    I share the view taken by successive Governments that national provision of purpose-built nuclear shelters would not be justified, but I am concerned to ensure that advice is readily available to the public on how best to provide practical protection in their own homes. Guidance on the design and construction of shelters has been issued in the publications "Domestic Nuclear Shelters" and "Domestic Nuclear Shelters—Technical Guidance". Information is not available centrally on the numbers of shelters which have been built or are the subject of planning applications.

    War Emergency Training (Equipment)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many survey meters and dosimeters have been issued to each regional council in Scotland for training for war emergencies; and when they were last tested.

    The following survey meters and dosimeters were issued on loan to regional councils during the period since 1 January 1980:

    Regional CouncilSurvey MetersDosimetersDate last tested
    Dumfries and Galloway410March 1980
    Strathclyde824September 1980
    Tayside23February 1980

    German Fishing Vessels

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on the action of German vessels fishing for herring in United Kingdom waters.

    On 10 July 1981 the fishery protection vessel "Jura" of the Department of Agriculture and Fisheries for Scotland detected the two West German trawlers "Kiel" and "Hannover" fishing for herring approximately eight miles north of the Butt of Lewis.Both vessels were escorted to Stornoway where the skippers were brought before the sheriff court on Monday 13 July, for prosecution under the West Coast Herring (Prohibition of Fishing) Order 1981. They were found guilty. The sheriff ordered that the catch, of approximately 102 tonnes, should be confiscated. It was not physically possible, however, for the vessels to be berthed at Stornoway because of their size and the court therefore sold the catch back to the owners of the vessels.There were exchanges with the Germans at ministerial and official level in London and in Bonn, in which we made clear that we saw no reason to change our view that herring fishing remained illegal in the area concerned.

    Agricultural Workers (Average Earnings)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish a table showing the average earnings of Scottish agricultural workers as a percentage of Scottish manual earnings in each of the past three years.

    The best estimates of average earnings of full-time adult male workers produce the following percentage:

    per cent.
    197875·8
    197973·9
    198073·4

    Housing Revenue Accounts

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the value of Exchequer subsidies and rate fund contributions, separately, to local authority housing revenue account dwellings per dwelling for the years 1975–76 to 1981–82 at 1980 survey prices, plus the number of local authority housing revenue account dwellings on which the estimates are based for Scotland.

    The average amounts per local authority housing revenue account dwelling are as follows:

    1980 Survey Prices
    YearMid-year estimate of number of HRA DwellingsCentral government subsidy per dwellingRate fund contribution per dwelling
    ££
    1975–76852,56522070
    1976–77871,37623256
    1977–78880,19318962
    1978–79888,88619964
    1979–80893,54123654
    1980–81893,84522254
    1981–82894,54912354

    Herring Processing

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on the proposals for a special grant scheme for those involved in herring processing.

    The Herring Buyers' Association, on behalf of the herring processing industry throughout the United Kingdom, has sought special aid towards re-equipping factories to cope with the expected resumption of major herring fisheries. Officials of my Department met the association to discuss its case and requested further information. This has now been received and the association's request is being examined.

    Religious Education

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is satisfied with the present statutory position with regard to the inspection of religious education in Scottish schools.

    At present section 66(2) of the Education (Scotland) Act 1980 prohibits Her Majesty's inspectors from inquiring into religious instruction in Scottish schools. This provision, which dates from 1872, was clearly designed to prevent the Government exercising undue influence over the content of religious instruction, and has been the basis for the long-standing tradition that I do not concern myself with the teaching of religious subjects in schools.In recent years, however, there has developed a general view that religious education should no longer be treated as a subject set apart from other subjects in the curriculum. In accord with this growing view, the then Secretary of State set up the Millar committee in 1968 to review the practice of non-denominational schools with regard to moral and religious education and to make recommendations for its improvement. Subsequently, one of the important recommendations of the Millar committee, that a Teaching Qualification (Secondary Education) in religious education should be available, was implemented, as was the recommendation that the Consultative Committee on the Curriculum, my principal advisory body on the school curriculum, should take over responsibility for curriculum development in the field of moral and religious education. I currently have under consideration the further issue of an examination in religious studies following a recommendation to me by the Consultative Committee on the Curriculum and the Scottish Certificate of Education Examination Board that such an examination should be introduced.In the light of these developments and of representations made to me by the Churches and other interests about the state of religious education in schools, I have reached the conclusion that the long-standing bar on the inspection of religious subjects is no longer appropriate and that the opportunity of the Education (Scotland) Bill, currently being considered in another place, should be taken to repeal section 66(2) of the 1980 Act, so that religious subjects may in future be treated on the same footing as other subjects in the curriculum and may be open to review by Her Majesty's inspectors on my behalf as necessary. My Department has today asked the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities, the Scottish Churches and other interested bodies for their views on this proposal.

    Wales

    Housing Revenue Accounts

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is the value of Exchequer subsidies and rate fund contributions, separately, to local authority housing revenue account dwellings per dwelling for the years 1975–76 to 1981–82 at 1980 survey prices, plus the number of local authority housing revenue account dwellings on which the estimates are based for Wales.

    The information is estimated to be as follows:

    £ (1980 survey prices)
    YearMid-year estimate of number of HRA dwellingsCentral Government subsidy per dwellingRate Fund Contribution per dwelling
    1975–76264,40219346
    1976–77271,71621625
    1977–78278,42420522
    1978–79282,63120124
    1979–80285,02520636
    1980–81286,59820032
    1981–82285,7599834

    Milk Producing Industry

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if, in view of the reduction in the livestock sector in Wales, he will take steps further to assist the Welsh milk producing industry, in order to alleviate unemployment of ancillary workers.

    Higher yields have generally sustained the level of Welsh milk production and I am not aware that ancillary employment has been affected by the small reduction in the dairy herd.

    Employment

    Laurence Scott Electromotors Ltd

    13.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether the Advisory, Conciliation and Arbitration Service has been approached in regard to the current industrial dispute affecting Laurence Scott Electromotors Ltd. at Openshaw, Manchester.

    31.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether, and to what, extent the Advisory, Conciliation and Arbitration Service has been involved in finding a solution to the dispute at Laurence Scott (Manchester); and if he will make a statement.

    I understand that ACAS has on several occasions during this dispute been in contact with the company, union representatives and the local engineering employers's association and the parties are aware that ACAS's conciliation services are available to them.

    Trade Union Immunities

    14.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many representations he has received on the Green Paper on trade union immunities.

    I have so far received almost 300 representations on the Green Paper.

    26.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment when he expects to announce his proposals for the reform in of the law governing trade union immunities.

    39.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment when he expects to be in a position to respond to the representations he has received on the Green Paper on trade union immunities.

    The period for receiving comments on the Green Paper on trade union immunities has now ended but the vast majority of written observations have arrived only within the last few weeks. I cannot yet say when our assessment of them will be complete. However, my right hon. Friend has always made it clear that the timetable for consultations must allow for the possibility of further legislation in the next Session of Parliament if that is shown to be necessary and desirable.

    41.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many trade unions have so far made representations on the Green Paper on trade union immunities.

    So far I have received representations on the Green Paper from 16 trade unions.

    Youth Opportunities Programme

    15.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many young people in Wolverhampton are currently on youth opportunity programmes.

    The information is not available in the form requested. However, the number of young people who entered the programme in Wolverhampton local authority district between the beginning of April and the end of June 1981 was some 900.

    24.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on his review of the adequacy of the allowance to trainees on the youth opportunities programme.

    I have nothing to add to my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Bodmin (Mr. Hicks) on 30 June.—[Vol. 7, c. 685 and 686.]

    37.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he is satisfied with the training received by those young persons participating in the youth opportunities programme and work experience on employers' premises schemes; and if he will make a statement.

    Schemes under the youth opportunities programme are approved by the Manpower Services Commission only if they offer opportunities that will improve the young person's employment prospects by providing a realistic introduction to working life. Every effort is made to ensure that the work experience provided is varied and likely to equip young people with basic skills.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many young people entered youth opportunity programmes from April 1978 to April 1979 in (a) Great Britain and (b) Scotland.

    [pursuant to his reply, 27 July 1981]: Between April 1978 and end March 1979, some 162,000 young people entered the youth opportunities programme in Great Britain of whom 23,600 entered the programme in Scotland.

    Unemployment Statistics

    16.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many unemployed people are under the age of 25 years; and how this compares with the position in May 1979.

    At April 1981 the number of people under 25 years of age registered as unemployed in the United Kingdom was 917,161 compared with 451,371 at April 1979.

    22.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the latest number of those who are registered unemployed in the United Kingdom.

    At 9 July, the provisional number of people registered as unemployed in the United Kingdom was 2,851,623.

    25

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the latest figures for unemployment; and if he will make a statement.

    At 9 July, the provisional number of people registered as unemployed in the United Kingdom was 2,851,623.I refer the hon. Member to my right hon. Friend's reply to the hon. Member for Keighley (Mr. Cryer) earlier today.

    32.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what was the total number of hitherto registered unemployed leaving the register during the last month for which figures are available.

    The average number of people in Great Britain leaving the register at employment offices each month in the three months ending June was 286,000, seasonally adjusted. Employment offices cover about 9(1 per cent. of the unemployed excluding school leavers.

    33.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the percentage of unemployment for Durham county, the Northern region and the United Kingdom as a whole.

    At 9 July, the provisional rates of unemployment for the county of Durham, the Northern region and the United Kingdom were 15·8, 15·6 and 11.8 per cent., respectively. The figure for the Northern region is in part estimated.

    43.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the latest figures available for the numbers and proportion of the working population unemployed; how these figures compare with May 1979; and if he will make a statement.

    At 9 July, the provisional number of people registered as unemployed in the United Kingdom, seasonally adjusted and excluding school leavers, was 2,582,300 and the unemployment rate was 10·7 per cent. The corresponding figures at 10 May 1979 were 1,312,000 and 5·4 per cent.

    46.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will give the total increase in the number of unemployed persons between May 1979 and the present month.

    Between May 1979 and July 1981 the number of people registered as unemployed in the United Kingdom, seasonally adjusted and excluding school leavers, increased by 1,270,300.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish a table showing the number of unemployed and the percentage which this represents of the total working population for each employment area in Norfolk, Suffolk, Essex, Hertfordshire, Cambridgeshire and Bedfordshire, respectively, for the present and for 10 July 1980.

    July 1980June 1981
    NumberPercentage rateNumberPercentage rate
    Norfolk
    Cromer7328·795711·4
    Dereham7578·91,08812·8
    Diss6836·31,0259·4
    Downham Market4948·274212·3
    Fakenham6338·685011·5
    Great Yarmouth2,1205·73,2448·7
    Hunstanton42812·058316·3
    Kings Lynn2,1037·53,57712·7
    North Walsham5746·88299·9
    Norwich6,3045·59,7368·5
    Attleborough357556
    Wymondham357625
    Thetford7787·41,07310·7
    Swaffham518719
    Brandon (Suffolk)241416
    Suffolk
    Bury St Edmunds1,1844·21,8406·5
    Haleworth247603959·6
    Haverhill7096·71,0469·9
    Leiston3707·461112·2
    Lowestoft2,2927·83,18710·9
    Sudbury8336·31,2359·4
    Beccles2804·54757·4
    Bungay174262
    Ipswich4,1145·25,9797·4
    Felixstowe427596
    Stowmarket546727
    Woodbridge557751
    Newmarket5496·47748·9
    Mildenhall458625
    Essex
    Clacton-on-Sea1,7729·62,75214·9
    Colchester3,7276·25,2258·7
    Harwich3113·56217·0
    Braintree1,2495·72,22910·5
    Halstead259535
    Witham428867
    Chelmsford2,3114·23,0796·1
    Burnham-on-Crouch237390
    Malden310693
    Harlow2,6695·33,9948·2
    Epping338574
    Saffron Walden223435
    Bishops Stortford (Herts)6661,001
    Southend-on-Sea5,4528·77,25112·2
    Basildon4,6276,449
    Canvey Island7411,372
    Grays2,7554,130
    Rayleigh2,0032,542
    Stanford-le-Hope6181,102
    Tilbury8001,124
    Brentwood1,447*1,934*
    Loughton1,174*1,595*

    The following table gives the numbers registered as unemployed at 10 July 1980 and 11 June 1981 in each employment office area in the counties specified. It also gives the percentage rates of unemployment for employment office areas either singly or grouped into travel-to-work areas. The figures include school leavers and are not seasonally adjusted. The unemployment rates are based on the estimated numbers of employees—employed and unemployed—which differ from the working population in that they exclude the self-employed and members of Her Majesty's Forces.Where an employment office area is part of a travel-to-work area which straddles a county boundary it is shown in the table as being in the county in which the larger part of its travel-to-work area lies.Following is the table:

    July 1980

    June 1981

    Number

    Percentage rate

    Number

    Percentage rate

    Hertfordshire

    Stevenage2,1415·43,6269·2
    Hertford6242·71,1204·9
    Hoddesdon475823
    Hitchin1,0334·51,8007·6
    Letchworth9881,645
    Royston397631
    St. Albans1,1772·91,8544·7
    Hatfield483856
    Welwyn Garden City1,0341,607
    Watford1,9143·43,4806·3
    Berkhamsted267500
    Hemel Hempstead1,8563,308
    Rickmansworth178484
    Waltham Cross1,094

    *

    2,002

    *

    Cambridgeshire

    Cambridge3,0383·54,3365·0
    Ely4154·37547·7
    Huntingdon1,6116·52,3019·4
    March6407·898812·0
    Peterborough5,0717·47,66111·2
    St. Neots4053·78137·3
    Wisbech1,3348·32,35614·7

    Bedfordshire

    Bedford3,4704·55,6827·6
    Biggleswade314684
    Luton5,9086·19,62510·5
    Dunstable1,6002,956
    Harpenden (Hertfordshire)282500
    Leighton Buzzard438987

    * Unemployment rates are not calculated for these areas; they are parts of the Greater London travel-to-work area.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what was the number of registered unemployed on a ay stated date for each of the months from May 1979 to June 1981 in Wolverhampton and the West Midlands.

    The following is the information. The figures include school leavers and are not seasonally adjusted.

    Wolverhampton employment office areaWest Midlands region
    1979
    May6,565117,689
    June7,605121,521
    July9,064143,111
    August9,135141,034
    September8,425135,206
    October8,165130,023
    November7,733127,573
    December7,869126,253
    1980
    January8,341133,287
    February7,945135,331
    March7,990136,908
    Wolverhampton employment office area
    Total unemployedof whom, ethnic minority group workers*
    MaleFemaleMaleFemale
    May 19794,4572,108722498
    May 198111,2574,0671,638828
    * Unemployed people born in, or whose parents were born in, the New Commonwealth and Pakistan.

    Wolverhampton employment office area

    West Midlands region

    April8,395142,996
    May8,604145,429
    June9,830159,079
    July12,315196,020
    August13,272211,141
    September13,339219,350
    October12,962221,914
    November13,195234,391
    December13,633243,709

    1981

    January14,384264,544
    February14,566272,833
    March14,818278,700
    April15,135287,297
    May15,324294,112
    June16,749305,650

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many (a) men, (b) women and (c) ethnic minorities are registered as unemployed in Wolverhampton; and what are the figures for May 1979.

    The following is the information at May 1979 and at May 1981, the latest date for which an analysis by ethnic origin is available.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the latest unemployment figures in the Wolverhampton travel-to-work area; how long is the average period of unemployment; and what is the age breakdown of the unemployment register.

    Employment Opportunities

    17.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he has studied the extent to which employment opportunities in particular cities are affected by the state of industrial relations there.

    The state of industrial relations in a city is bound to be an important factor in safeguarding employment and creating new jobs. However, there is no adequate statistical evidence on this subject.

    Training Initiative

    18.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he intends to meet the general secretary of the Trades Union Congress to discuss the proposed new training initiative.

    I have no plans to meet the General Secretary of the Trades Union Congress to discuss the new training initiative, though I may well do so. I have, of course, discussed the initiative with the TUC representatives on the Manpower Services Commission and very much welcome their participation.

    Youth Employment Schemes

    19.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on youth employment schemes.

    34.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what further measures he proposes to deal with youth unemployment.

    42.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment when he intends to make a statement on measures to reduce the youth unemployment figures.

    49.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he is satisfied with the progress being made in the solution of the problem of youth unemployment; and if he will make a statement.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the announcement made by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister yesterday. The Government's actions have clearly demonstrated our commitment to helping the young unemployed.

    45.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the percentage of young people who, having participated in the work experience programme, have now secured employment.

    The most recent survey, which covered a sample of young people who entered work experience schemes under the youth opportunities programme in March 1980, showed that 36 per cent. went into employment immediately after leaving their schemes, and a further 13 per cent. entered full-time education or training.

    36.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he is satisfied with facilities available for training school leavers.

    No. The consultative document "A New Training Initiative" discusses ways in which all can contribute to improving training for new entrants to employment. It is most important that employers should consider their future needs for trained manpower in deciding present training programmes. The Government help through the unified vocational preparation programme, through additional support for long-term training and by improving the training element in YOP offerings.

    Northern Region

    20.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will give the latest unemployment figures for the Northern region now and at the same date in 1979.

    At July 1981, the estimated number of people registered as unemployed in the Northern region was 211,856 compared with 127,781 at July 1979. The July 1981 figure includes an estimate in respect of a number of employment offices where no count was made owing to industrial action.

    Job Release Scheme

    21.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he is satisfied with the effectiveness of the job release scheme.

    Yes. I refer my hon. Friend to the statement made by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister yesterday. The qualifying age for men will be reduced to 63 in November 1981 and to 62 in February 1982.

    Apprenticeships

    23.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he plans any initiatives to increase the number of apprenticeships available in British industry.

    This Government, like previous ones, take the view that it is mainly up to industry itself to recruit sufficient apprentices to meet its long term needs for skilled labour. However, the Government are at present continuing to support up to 25,000 places a year under the Manpower Services Commission's training for skills programme and have agreed to make available over the next two years a further £20 million to help support industry's long-term training.

    27.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what plans he has to ensure that apprenticeships or training places are offered to every school leaver this year by Christmas.

    My right hon. Friend announced in the House in November last year that he had asked the Manpower Services Commission to offer every 1981 school leaver who cannot find work the opportunity of work experience or training on the youth opportunities programme by Christmas 1981.

    The commission has requested an additional £93 million in 1981–82 to ensure that this undertaking will be met, and my right hon. Friend will be making an announcement shortly.

    In addition, under the training for skills programme, the Government are making £40 million available in 1981–82 to support the recruitment by industry of 33,000 apprentices and entrants to other forms of long-term training.

    Employment Act 1980

    28.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he is satisfied with the workings of the Employment Act 1980.

    The Employment Act 1980 came into force less than one year ago. It is still too soon to make any final judgment about its effectiveness. We shall, of course, be taking experience of the operation of the Employment Act so far fully into account in assessing the outcome of consultations on the Green Paper on trade union immunities.

    Short-Time Working Compensation Scheme

    29.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what representations he has received about the way in which the short-time working compensation scheme is currently being implemented; and if he will make a statement.

    My right hon. Friend has recently received representations about the temporary short-time working compensation scheme concerning small firms, second and subsequent applications, the rate of reimbursement and the period of reimbursement. All of these points will be considered in the annual review of the scheme that is currently being undertaken.

    Chatham Dockyard

    30.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if his Department will provide special services to assist those persons with engineering skills who will lose their jobs during the run-down of Chatham dockyard.

    Consultations are taking place with the dockyard management and other bodies concerned to assess the extent of the problem and consider how best to help all those affected by the run-down of the work force at Chatham dockyard, pending its closure in 1984. The Manpower Services Commission will ensure that its employment services are readily available to all those made redundant. Staff from the training services division will also be available to discuss training courses and the allowances payable. We shall, of course, do all we can to help craftsmen wishing to acquire additional trade skills or to refresh or up-date their existing skills.

    Inner City Areas

    35.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he is satisfied with the effect that Government policies have had on employment on inner city areas in England.

    The aim of the Government's urban programme is to make inner cities places where people want to live and work and that are attractive to private sector investors.The only way, however, to attain a substantial and lasting improvement in employment levels in inner city areas and in the country as a whole is to get the economy onto a sound footing. This is what the Government's policies aim to achieve.

    Fish Processing Industry

    38.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many opportunities have been offered to young persons in the East Aberdeenshire constituency to enter the fish processing industry under the youth opportunities programme since the inception of the scheme; and what percentage has accepted or refused the offer.

    This information is not available in the form requested. However, in Peterhead and Fraserborough there are 11 schemes sponsored by employers in the fish processing industry. These provide 16 places offering a potential throughput of 32 young people in any 12-month period.

    Postal Ballots

    40.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment in how many instances trade unions have made use of the provisions for secret postal ballots established by the Employment Act 1980.

    I refer my hon. Friend to my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Bristol, North-West (Mr. Colvin) on 23 July. I am informed by the Certification Officer that two unions have so far received payment and six applications from five other unions remain under consideration.

    Disabled Persons (Job Release Scheme)

    44.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will more widely publicise the maximum salary allowed to be drawn by those in receipt of benefit under the job release scheme for disabled people.

    Job release allowance is not affected by earnings that do not exceed £4 per week. This is clearly stated in the leaflets that describe the job release scheme, on the form completed by all applicants and on the letter of acceptance sent to all applicants. I am satisfied that this is sufficient.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) what plans there are in the "Open Tech" and "New Training Initiative" proposals that take into account the learning problems of handicapped students and other handicapped people who may wish to re-enter the labour force;(2) having regard to the disproportionately large number of handicapped workers who are unskilled, he has any plans in the "Open Tech" and "New Training Initiative" proposals to take into account the learning problems of these handicapped workers;

    (3) if he will give for the latest available date, the numerical and percentage change in the number of (a) registered, (b) unregistered and (c) total disabled people who have been unemployed since May 1979.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he is satisfied that abandoning the quota system for disabled people will still leave adequate job protection for the registered disabled, maintain incentives for employers to hire disabled people and maintain equal opportunities for disabled people.

    I refer the hon. Member to the answer my right hon. Friend gave to the hon. Member for Wolverhampton, North-East (Mrs. Short) on 23 July.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many jobs have now been created for disabled (a) young people, (b) men, (c) women and (d) people as a whole as a direct result of the Manpower Services Commission's "Fit for Work" campaign.

    I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Eastleigh (Sir David Price) on 2 June 1981.—[Vol. 5, c. 323.]

    Rolls-Royce

    47.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the proposal made on 9 June by Lord McFadzean, chairman of Rolls-Royce, that a scheme for training young people at Rolls-Royce, additional to the company's own requirements, should be funded by the Government.

    I have nothing to add to the reply that I gave on this subject to the hon. Member for Coventry, North-East (Mr. Park) on 20 July 1981.—[Vol. 9, c. 52.]

    Industrial Training Boards

    48.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment when he expects to publish the Manpower Services Commission's review of industrial training boards; and if he will make a statement.

    I understand that the Manpower Services Commission's report on future training arrangements in each sector will be published on 30 July. We shall need time to consider it and, if necessary, have further consultations before coming to firm conclusions. We hope to be able to announce firm decisions as soon as possible.

    Mexborough

    50.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the percentage of unemployed registered at Mexborough employment exchange on the latest available date; and what was the figure in June 1979.

    At July 1981, the provisional unemployment rate in the Mexborough travel-to-work area, which includes Goldthorpe, was 20·8 per cent., compared with 10·2 per cent. at June 1979. The unemployment figures to which the rates relate include school leavers and are not seasonally adjusted.

    Preston

    51.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the current level of unemployment in the Preston travel-to-work area.

    At 9 July, the provisional number of people registered as unemployed in the Preston travel-to-work area was 17,709 and the unemployment rate was 11·9 per cent.

    West Midlands

    52.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what representations he has recently received from employers' organisations in the West Midlands in relation to employment prospects in that region.

    I receive representations from time to time from employers' organisations in the West Midlands and other parts of the country. All these representations receive serious consideration.

    Factory Inspectorate (Mines Safety)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) what arrangements are being made to ensure that the Factory Inspectorate is able to maintain the same safety standards in the mines as currently operate under the Mines and Quarries Inspectorate;(2) if he will now instruct the Health and Safety Executive to withdraw its proposals to

    (a) separate the Inspectors of Quarries from the Inspectors of Mines, (b) place the Chief Inspector of Mines under the direction of the newly created post of Inspector-General, and (c) make senior district inspectors in the coal fields responsible to the area directors of the Factory Inspectorate.

    The Health and Safety Executive's proposals for re-organising the work of its inspectorates are under discussion with representative bodies of those concerned. No decisions have yet been taken. There is no proposal for the Factory Inspectorate to take responsibility for safety standards in mines.

    Benefits (Fraud Investigation)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many of his Department's fraud investigation teams have been used in the Wolverhampton district and travel-to-work area in the period 1979 to date; how many cases have been investigated; how many people have had their benefits withdrawn; and how many have subsequently been restored on appeal.

    The investigation of unemployment benefit fraud in the Wolverhampton area is carried out by staff based at Wolverhampton unemployment benefit office. In the period 1979 to date a total of 328 cases have been investigated. In 183 of these claimants have been disallowed benefit and in no case has benefit subsequently been restored on appeal.There have been no special exercises by other fraud investigation teams in the Wolverhampton area.

    Redundancy Payments

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he has any proposals for extending to fishing ports the improved redundancy terms extended to dockers in Liverpool and London.

    No. It is primarily for the National Joint Council for the Port Transport Industry to determine appropriate severance terms for registered dock workers.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment when he hopes to announce a "topping up" scheme of redundancy payments under the dock labour scheme.

    My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Transport has repeatedly made clear that the special scheme applying to registered dock workers who accepted severance terms in London and Liverpool during March and April will not be extended to other ports.

    Industrial Tribunals

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many unfair dismissal and how many redundancy pay claims, respectively, were heard by industrial tribunals during the last two periods of 12 months for which records are available; how many and what percentage in each category were successful and how many and what proportion have failed; and what was the average award received by successful claimants in each category.

    The information for the last two periods of 12 months for which records are available is as follows:

    UpheldDismissed
    No.Per cent.No.Per cent.
    19783,277288,55172
    19793,187278,51873
    Information on average awards is not available but median awards were £375 in 1978 and £401 in 1979.Redundancy payment claims registered by the central offices of the industrial tribunals in 1978 and 1979 numbered 2,812 and 2,358 respectively. Information on the number of cases heard and their outcome is not readily available.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he is satisfied with the operation of the pre-hearing assessment; and, if not, what changes he proposes to seek in the industrial tribunal regulations.

    It is too early as yet to make a proper evaluation of this procedure which came into operation only in October last year. I have, however, no reason, so far, to be dissatisfied with its operation.

    Young Persons And Ethnic Minorities

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the percentage rate of unemployment (a) in total, (b) among young people and (c) among ethnic minorities in each of the following areas; and what are the similar regional figures for the areas concerned: Deptford, Brixton, Walthamstow, Battersea, Southall, Wood Green, Tottenham, Bedminster, Avonmouth, Swindon, Gloucester, Cirencester, Chester, Derby, Crewe, Highfield (Leicester), Handsworth, Liverpool 8, Toxteth, Blackpool, Blackburn, Moss Side, Bradford, Halifax, Hull and Leeds.

    [pursuant to his reply, 24 July 1981]: The information is available only for total unemployed and relates to travel-to-work areas which consist of employment office areas either singly or grouped to form travel-to-work areas. For areas in London the rate relates to the Greater London Council area. Rates of unemployment by age are not available below national level; rates for unemployed ethnic minorities cannot be calculated as there are no estimates available of the numbers of employees for this group of workers. The following is the available information at 9 July.

    Total percentage rate of unemployment at 9 July 1981 (provisional)
    Per cent.
    South East Region8·3
    Greater London8·0
    South West Region10·0
    Bristol* (includes Bedminster and Avonmouth)10·0
    Swindon10·4
    Gloucester9·2
    Cirencester9·7
    East Midlands Region10·9
    Derby*8·4
    Leicester*11·0
    West Midlands Region14·2
    Birmingham* (includes Handsworth)15·0
    North West Region14·4
    Chester12·2
    Crewe*10·0
    Liverpool*18·1
    Blackpool*11·2
    Blackburn*13·9
    Manchester* (includes Moss Side)12·3
    Yorkshire and Humberside Region12·7
    Bradford*13·6
    Halifax*11·9
    Hull*16·1
    Leeds*10·8
    * Travel-to-work area comprising two or more employment office areas.

    Attorney-General

    Newspapers (Libel Actions)

    asked the Attorney-General whether, in the light of the practice adopted by some printed papers in knowingly and deliberately libelling persons, he will consider legislating to create a system of totting-up of libel fines similar to road offences, so that after a series of proven libel cases, the paper would be closed down in addition to paying the financial penalties.

    Conveyancers (Licences)

    asked the Attorney-General if he will take steps to introduce a simple licensing system to cover all conveyancers; and if he will make a statement.

    This proposal was rejected by the Royal Commission on legal services. The commission's recommendations are being studied but no decisions have been taken on those relating to conveyancing.

    Children (Custody Orders)

    asked the Attorney-General what steps he is to take to give legislative backing in the United Kingdom to Her Majesty's Government's signature of the Council of Europe convention on custody orders for children in United Kingdom courts; and what discussions he is having with other signatory Governments similarly to incorporate the convention into their domestic law.

    The Government intend to initiate detailed studies on the question of implementing the Council of Europe convention on the recognition and enforcement of decisions concerning custody of children and on restoration of custody of children. There has recently been an exchange of views on the state of ratification of this convention in the European Committee on Legal Co-operation at Strasbourg.

    Operation Countryman

    asked the Attorney-General whether, in the light of his reply to the hon. Member for Lewisham, West Official Report, 25 February 1980, columns 950–51, to the effect that there had been no obstruction of Operation Countryman by senior officers of the Metropolitan or City Police and none by junior officers except in so much that they exercised their right to remain silent when interviewed, and in view of the statement made on "World in Action" on 20 July 1981 that there had been such obstruction by the imparting of information to policemen under suspicion he will now reconsider his reply of 25 February 1980.

    I have no further information which would cause me to reconsider my reply of 25 February 1980. I also refer to my reply of 7 July 1980—[Vol. 8, c, 22.] At no time have any allegations been made to me or the Director of Public Prosecutions of obstruction by the imparting of information to policemen under suspicion.

    Industry

    British Telecommunications

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry what appointments he has made to the board of the new British Telecommunication corporation.

    No. of offers madeValue of offers made

    £000
    No. of new projects involvedEstimated employment arising from new projects
    Northern Region
    July 1980125
    August 198032,430
    September 1980112,907
    October 198048,712
    November 198059223185
    December 19805427134
    January 1981275
    February 198152203220
    March 1981135110
    April 198192,251380
    May 1981
    June 198176954164

    Under the powers conferred on him by section 1(5) of the British Telecommunications Act 1981, my right hon. Friend has made the following appointments to the corporation:

    Chairman:

    • Sir George Jefferson CBE*

    Deputy Chairman:

    • Mr. P. F. Benton*

    Members (full-time):

    • Mr. M. Bett
    • Mr. J. M. Harper
    • Mr. J. Hodgson
    • Mr. F. D. Perryman*
    • Mr. I. D. T. Vallance
    • Mr. J. S. Whyte CBE.

    Members (part-time):

    • Sir George Macfarlane CB*
    • Mr. J. D. Cormie*
    • Mr. J. Lyons*

    * These appointees are currently members of the Post Office board; they will remain on that board until the oppointed day set for the transfer of the powers and duties to the new BT corporation.

    Wolverhampton (Manufacturing Firms)

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many manufacturing firms in the Wolverhampton travel-to-work area have notified his Department of expansion plans in 1981; and how many jobs they will create.

    Northern Region

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry (1) what has been the number of new firms and jobs created as a result of offers of financial assistance received under section 7 of the Industry Act 1972 in (a) the Northern region, (b) Durham county and (c) Darlington and South-West Durham travel-to-work area for each month of the last 12 months;(2) what has been the total number and value of offers of regional assistance made to companies in

    (a) the Northern region, (b) Durham county and (c) the Darlington and South-West Durham travel-to-work area for each of the last 12 months.

    Assistance has been offered under section 7 of the Industry Act 1972 as follows:

    No. of offers made

    Value of offers made
    £000

    No. of new projects involved

    Estimated employment arising from new projects

    Durham County

    July 1980
    August 19801650
    September 1980
    October 198012,150
    November 198023002140
    December 19804414134
    January 1981125
    February 1981115140
    March 1981
    April 19814201380
    May 1981
    June 198143452103

    Darlington and South West Durham travel-to-work area

    July 1980
    August 1980
    September 1980
    October 198012,150
    November 1980
    December 19803339
    January 1981125
    February 1981
    March 1981
    April 1981128
    May 1981
    June 1981

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many applications for information of an industrial or service development nature his Department has received for the Northern region and Durham county for each of the last 12 months: and how many of these his Department has referred to (a) the English Industrial Estates Commission, (b) new town development corporations, (c) local authorities and (d) Durham county council.

    The number of applications for information of a service or industrial development nature received by the North-East region in each of the last 12 months was as follows:

    1980number
    July215
    August101
    September154
    October135
    November124
    December123
    1981
    January127
    February194
    March196
    April131
    May117
    June128
    The corresponding figures for County Durham cannot be isolated without incurring disproportionate costs.Although it is standard practice to refer inquirers to other organisations where this may be helpful to them, detailed records of such referrals are not kept.

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many projects the National Enterprise Board has sponsored; and what has been the resulting number of jobs created in (a) the United Kingdom, (b) the Northern region and (c) Durham county for each of the past 12 months.

    Education And Science

    Hull University

    53.

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what representations he has received from Hull university concerning the proposed reduction in student numbers attending the university.

    Six letters have been received from hon. Members, forwarding letters received from the vice-chancellor of the University of Hull, members of the academic staff and the local branch of the Association of University Teachers.

    University Of Keele

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will list with details the number of grants awarded to the University of Keele by the Medical Research Council.

    At the present time there are eight MRC project grants held by researchers at the University of Keele. The details are as follows:

    Starting Date

    Tenure

    Current Annual Salaries

    Cost Overall Expenses

    Overall Equipment

    Department of Biological Sciences Dr. J. F. Woodley

    The absorption of liposomally entrapped macromolecules by the adult rat small intestine in vitro.1.11.783 years£7,290£3,600£9,087

    Professor J. B. Lloyd

    (With Professor F. Beck at the Department of Anatomy, University of Leicester)
    Nutritional mechanisms in the early rat embryo and their susceptibility to modification by teratogens13.11.783 years£11,750£5,131

    Department of Communication and Neuroscience Dr. P. Hammond

    Neurophysiological investigation of retinal sensitivity to stimulus covariation1.10.783 years£7,700£6,290£11,230
    Neurophysiological investigation of visual cortical sensitivity to textured backgrounds and to relative motion4.813 years£3,678£7,281£26,133

    Professor E. F. Evans

    Behavioural, physiological and anatomical study of ototoxic cochlear pathology1.9.803 years£11,641£6,820£9,021

    Dr. D. A. Jeffreys

    Evoked potential investigation of visual cortical function in man1.7.803 years£6,110£5,650£12,093

    Dr. J. P. Wilson

    Mechanisms of tinnitus1.813 years£600£3,547

    Department of Physics

    Mr. N. M. Allinson

    Physiological signal processing using dedicated charge-transfer-device-microprocessor system10.802 years£2,070£21,939

    15 To 18-Year-Olds (Ethnic Minority Groups)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will give details of expenditure by his Department on studies of the educational and vocational experiences of 15 to 18-yearold children of the minority ethnic groups for this and subsequent years.

    The Department has agreed to pay a sum not exceeding £126,000 to the University of Keele over a period of three years from 1 April 1981, to conduct research on that specific topic. Other current research projects have some bearing on this subject, which also overlaps with the remit of the committee of inquiry into the education of children from ethnic minority groups.

    Higher Education

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what account he took of the fact that the number of 18-year-olds in the population will be higher throughout the 1980s except for 1989 than for any year in the 1970s in fixing the level of provision of university places for the 1980s.

    All relevant considerations were taken into account in formulating the Government's expenditure plans for higher education.

    Pupil-Teacher Ratio (Leek)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the pupil-teacher ratio in secondary schools in the area covered by the Leek parliamentary constituency; and how this compares with the figure for secondary schools in England.

    The information requested is not readily available for areas smaller than local education authorities.

    In January 1980 the pupil-teacher ratio for qualified teachers within maintained secondary schools in Staffordshire was 16.5:1; the comparable ratio for England was 16.6:1.

    Universities (Admissions)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if, in the light of his statement on 13 March that it was hoped that universities would admit, as they had done this year, as many students as they could consistent with their academic judgment, he will give an assurance that universities will not suffer financial penalties if they exceed the student numbers recommended by the University Grants Committee.

    By convention, the allocation of recurrent grant to individual universities by the University Grants Committee is not subject to ministerial intervention.

    United States Of America (Student Grants)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the amount of grant to students studying in the United States of America in respect of maintenance grant, expressed in dollars; if he will estimate the value of each grant on the basis of the exchange rate between the dollar and sterling in 1980–81; and what the grant would buy today in rates of exchange considering the rate of inflation in the United States of America.

    The maintenance grant paid to United Kingdom students studying in the United States of America was £2,050, or $4,924 at the September 1980 exchange rate. The maintenance grant for 1981–82 of £1,825 will have, it is estimated, a value of $3,400 at today's exchange rate. Taking into account the movement in the American consumer price index the maintenance grant in 1981–82 will have a value of about 63 per cent. of the 1980–81 grant. This is because the calculation of the maintenance grant for 1981–82 reflected, amongst other factors, the strength of the pound in October 1980.

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what amount the United States universities have recommended in U.S. dollars that overseas students should have in grant to cover basic living costs; and by how much the United Kingdom maintenance grant falls short of these recommendations.

    My right hon. and learned Friend is not aware of any recommendations that may have been made by universities in the United States with regard to students' maintenance requirements.

    Students (Maintenance Grants)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what was the percentage cut in the maintenance grant given to students studying abroad in 1981–82; what the total grant was in 1980–81; and what it is now.

    The basic maintenance grant payable to mandatory award holders studying for a year abroad in a high cost country is £2,050 in the current academic year and will be £1,825 in the 1981–82 academic year. This represents a reduction in absolute terms of about 11 per cent. This reflects amongst other factors the relative strength of the pound in October 1980.

    University Students (Overseas Study)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will take steps to ensure that those universities such as Sussex, East Anglia and Kent, which have successfully operated the compulsory year abroad scheme for students in the United States of America, are in a position to guarantee a four-year course, in view of the difficulties caused by the Department of Education and Science's assessment and other financial limitations imposed by the University Grants Committee; and if he will now make a reassessment of the situation taking into consideration the reduction of the rate of exchange.

    The allocations of grant to individual universities is a matter for the University Grants Committee and, by convention, is not subject to ministerial intervention.

    Open Universities (Fees)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he anticipates an increase in Open University fees in the next academic year; and, if so, of what amount.

    No decision has yet been reached about the level of tuition fees to be taken into account in the assessment of grant for 1982.

    Agriculture (Sub-Degree Courses)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will make a further statement about the proposed arrangements for the validation of sub-degree courses in agriculture.

    My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Wales and I continue to share the desire of those concerned with arrangements for the validation of sub-degree courses in agriculture and related subjects that some rationalisation within the existing pattern of courses and awards should be secured quickly and therefore welcome the valuable efforts of the City and Guilds of London Institute to bring forward proposals which enjoy among those concerned the degree of support and commitment necessary for their success.We believe that the suggestions made by the institute offer, with some clarification and modification, a useful basis for the development of a nationally recognised consultative group to promote and facilitate, within the existing pattern of courses and awards in this area and by the examining and validating bodies concerned, some co-ordination and rationalisation in a manner compatible with the development of provision at a similar level in other subject areas. We are therefore asking the institute to set in hand the arrangements for establishing in the near future a body of this kind, for a period of three years only subject to review. During this initial period it will be financed jointly by my Department and the City and Guilds of London Institute, subject to the approval of Parliament. But should the proposed group continue in existence beyond that period, it would be expected to do so on a self-financing basis.Details of the administrative arrangements, the scope, function, objectives, membership and finance of the proposed group are set out in full in a memorandum circulated today to interested bodies by my Department, and the Welsh Office, a copy of which has been put in the Library.We consider that a resolution of the particular needs of agriculture for a vertically integrated pattern of educational provision below degree level and a proper recognition of the roles and responsibilities of the validating bodies concerned can be combined appropriately and effectively only in this way, rather than by the introduction of a distinct or separate system of awards or by the concentration of all validation and award-making responsibilities for sub-degree courses in agriculture and related subjects in one single body.

    Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

    Northern Ireland (Government Policy)

    asked the Lord Privy Seal what is the present strength of information personnel at Her Majesty's embassy in Washington and in consular and other posts in the United States of America; and to what extent such personnel are engaged in presenting the facts about the hunger strike in Her Majesty's prison, Maze and the case for the continuance of Northern Ireland within the United Kingdom.

    The total staff in the United States of America devoted exclusively to information work is currently 61. These consist of two United Kingdom-based officers in Washington and three in New York, supported by 56 locally engaged staff deployed as follows:

    number
    Washington6
    New York41
    Atlanta1
    Boston1
    Chicago2
    number
    Houston2
    Los Angeles2
    San Francisco1
    Of the total, 26 are information officers and 35 are support staff. The projection of Her Majesty's Government's Northern Ireland policy has a very high priority in their work.

    Falkland Islands

    asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will make a statement outlining the latest discussions between officials of his Department and officials of the Foreign Office of Argentina regarding the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave him on 20 July.—[Vol. 9, c. 158.]There have been no formal discussions between British and Argentine officials since the February ministerial talks, although in the course of the frequent contacts we have with the Argentine Government over the whole range of Anglo-Argentine relations, the subject of the Falkland Islands has been discussed informally.

    Namibia

    asked the Lord Privy Seal if the Government have altered their view that full implementation of United Nations resolution 435 is the only basis for a Namibian settlement.

    The Government stated with their other partners in the Five in Ottawa on 21 July that they would continue their efforts to bring about the independence of Namibia in accordance with United Nations Security Council resolution 435 in a manner which will command international approval. While in Ottawa, the Foreign Ministers of the Five considered measures which would complement and strengthen the existing United Nations plan and provide the confidence necessary for all the parties to proceed.

    Passports

    asked the Lord Privy Seal, further to his answer to the hon. Member for Lichfield and Tamworth of 22 May last, if he will make a statement on the current situation in the passport ofices; when he anticipates the backlog of passport applications being cleared; and whether, in the light of the progress being made, he will extend the moratorium for a further period of three months for those persons travelling to the United States of America beyond the expiry date of 25 August 1981.

    The Council of Civil Service Unions agreed on 8 July to call off the selective strikes which had been affecting the passport offices since 6 April and that there should be a return to work at all offices as soon as possible. Strikers at all passport offices have now returned to work.Because of the disruption during the past few months it will be some weeks before a normal passport issuing service can be restored except at the Newport office where there is now no appreciable backlog. During the period of the return to normality, people who wish to travel abroad urgently should check, by telephone or in person, with the appropriate passport office before sending urgent passport applications by post.The United States has agreed to extend the arrangement on the acceptance of expired United Kingdom passports until 30 November 1981. It has also indicated that British visitor's passports will be acceptable until that date. A number of other countries have taken similar action.The countries which have indicated that they will accept expired passports or British visitor's passports are as follows:

    Expired standard passports: Antigua, Australia, Barbados, Belgium, Hong Kong, Israel, Jamaica, New Zealand, Spain, United States.
    British visitor's passports: Antigua, Australia, Barbados, Bulgaria, Hong Kong, Jamaica, Jordan, New Zealand, Seychelles, South Africa, Romania, Tunisia, United States, Yugoslavia.

    It must be emphasised that travellers should check with the authorities of the countries concerned before embarking on any journey with less than the normal documentation. This is particularly important as the concession could be withdrawn without notice and some

    Kensington Palace Gardens (Proposed Development)

    asked the Lord Privy Seal if agreement has yet been reached on the Soviet embassy's proposed development of sites in the Royal borough of Kensington and Chelsea.

    asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will make a statement in regard to his proposals for the future use of the north-east corner of Kensington Palace Gardens.

    [pursuant to his reply, 27 July 1981]: The following is the corrected version.We have for some time been discussing with the Soviet Government the reciprocal provision of embassy sites in London and Moscow. In Moscow we are considering sites for our embassy offices and staff accommodation. In London the Russians wish to put offices and some staff accommodation on Nos. 1–7 Kensington Palace Gardens, with recreational facilities and additional staff accommodation on another site, retaining their existing residence at 13 Kensington Palace Gardens. The Foreign and Commonwealth Office informed the Soviet charge d'affaires on 24 July that the former Ministry of Defence site in Warwick Road, which is Government-owned, may be developed for staff residences and amenities. The Kensington Palace Gardens sites are owned by the Crown Estate Commissioners. The normal planning procedures will of course need to be observed.

    Civil Service

    Women (Employment Opportunities)

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service whether the reports of the internal inquiry into employment opportunities for women in the Civil Service will be published.

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    Council Of Fisheries Ministers

    56.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement on the recent meeting of Fisheries Ministers.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what was the outcome of the Council of Fisheries Ministers' meeting in Brussels on 27 July; and if he will make a statement.

    I refer my hon. Friends to the statement which I made in the House earlier today.

    Fishing Industry

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what proposals he has for the restructuring of the fishing industry.

    tonnes
    Calendar yearNew and Ware potatoes imported from European Community countriesTotal United Kingdom human consumptionPercentage total United Kingdom human consumption imported raw from European Community countries
    197996,8285,612,0001·725
    1980109,2395,596,0001·952
    Source: Her Majesty's Customs and Excise.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he has any information on the investment made by other countries within the European Economic Community in new potato processing plants partly intended for export to the United Kingdom.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what recent meetings he has had with the Potato Processors Association; and if he will make a statement.

    My right hon. Friend last met representatives of the Potato Processors Association on 29 June 1981. My right hon. Friend discussed the importance of the potato processing industry to growers in the United Kingdom.

    Social Services

    Mobility Allowance

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will give the number of claims for mobility allowance received by the mobility allowance unit at Norcross so far in 1981, together with the comparable figures for 1980, 1979 and 1969.

    41,600 in the first half of 1981. The comparable figures for 1980 and 1979 are 37,500 and 36,000 respectively. The allowance was introduced in 1976 so there are no figures for 1969.

    I refer my hon. Friend to my reply to him on 25 June 1981.—[Vol. 7, c. 144.]

    Potatoes

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what quantity of potatoes was imported from European Economic Community countries in 1979, 1980 and 1981, respectively, expressed in tonnes and as a percentage of the United Kingdom market; and how much of each amount went to the potato processing industry.

    The import figures requested for 1981 are not yet available. Those for 1979 and 1980 are in the following table. There are no official figures on the proportion of our potato imports taken by the potato processing industry, but the Potato Marketing Board estimates that processors took an average of 50 per cent. of our imports from the European Community in 1979 and 1980.

    Medical Boards

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will take steps to speed up reports from medical boards in the light of the substantial delay experienced by Mr. M. Hancock of 10 Biart Place, Rugby, and, in particular, if he will give consideration to increasing the number of both lay and medical personnel available to the medical boards.

    I regret the delay in the case of my hon. Friend's constituent, about whom our Blackpool office has already written to him.Some claims for benefits are subject to delays at present, either because of an unusually large number of claims for a particular benefit or because of the industrial dispute in the Civil Service, or for a combination of these factors. Staffing levels are based on average workloads, and these are kept under continuous review allowing account to be taken of long-term changes. We are making every effort to clear outstanding cases as quickly as possible with existing staff. No benefit will be lost as a result of the length of time taken to determine a claim.

    Mobility Allowance (Mentally Handicapped Persons)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many claims for mobility allowance from mentally handicapped claimants have been made; and how many have been successful since the mobility allowance amendment regulations 1979 came into force.

    I regret that these figures are not available. To be eligible for mobility allowance a person must be suffering from physical disablement such that he or she is unable or virtually unable to walk. Our statistics relate to broad classifications of physical disease affecting ability to walk, regardless of whether there is an associated mental condition.

    New Hospital, Goole

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the present position in respect of the Capricode stage 1 submission to him by the Yorkshire regional health authority for the new hospital to be built at Goole.

    We hope to reach a decision on the Capricode stage 1 submission very soon and I shall write to the hon. Member when we do.

    Death Grant

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many representations he has received in the past year in support of an increase in the death grant.

    We have received about 600 individual representations on this subject, as well as a petition organised by the Dignity in Death Alliance.

    National Health Service (Access)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will introduce legislation to clarify the provisions of the National Health Service Act 1946 so as to establish beyond doubt that a health authority may not discriminate between United Kingdom citizens who choose to consult a primary care physician under the National Health Service and those who choose to consult a private primary health care physician in terms of access to secondary National Health Service health care facilities.

    All persons normally resident in the United Kingdom may use the NHS secondary, that is, hospital, services. Some health authorities also arrange direct access to certain other services such as pathology, radiology and physiotherapy, that is, without an out-patient consultation, to patients of general practitioners, but this is not invariable and is at the health authority's discretion. Usually such a service is available to general practitioners for their private patients. In these circumstances legislation is not necessary at the moment.

    Community Homes (Studies)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what studies have been recently initiated by his Department into the impact on young people on being discharged from community homes with education on the premises.

    The Department is currently supporting three studies in this field. In one, the National Children's Bureau is evaluating the problems that face youngsters on leaving residential care. The second, a pilot project run by APEX Trust, is concerned with equipping young people to become independent when the time comes to leave community homes with education. In a third study, Professor Olive Stevenson is investigating the effect on a small number of youngsters of being dischaged from such homes.

    Social Services Departments (Advisers And Staff)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what provision has been made for the study of the role of specialist advisers and social service staff in local authority social service departments in relation to the physically handicapped by his Department, including any grants for such studies in the last three years.

    This subject is one of the Department's research priorities in the field of physical disability and sensory impairment. Two studies have been commissioned.University of Keele; Professor Olive Stevenson

    A three year study commissioned in June 1979 which includes an investigation of the role and function of specialist advisers for physical disability and of the effectiveness of different arrangements made for their deployment in Social Services Departments. Estimated cost £121,000.
    York University Social Policy Research Unit; Dr. Jonathan Bradshaw
    Project concerned with the development and evaluation of the role of specialist social workers concerned with severely handicapped children. The final report of this project is now being considered by the Department. Estimated cost £67,000.

    Unemployment And Supplementary Benefit (Scotland)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will provide a percentage breakdown for the following groups of married men in Scotland in receipt of unemployment or supplementary benefit who have been unemployed for (a) over one year and (b) over all periods (i) married with no children, (ii) one child, (iii) two children, (iv) three children and (v) four or more children.

    I regret that such information relating to men receiving unemployment benefit in Scotland is not readily available. For unemployed men receiving supplementary benefit in Scotland, the duration of unemployment is not available; but an analysis of married men, at 3 December 1980, by number of dependent children, is as follows:

    Per cent.
    (i) with no child22
    (ii) with one child27
    (iii) with two children26
    (iv) with three children13
    (v) with four or more children11

    Note: 'married men' includes a small number of single claimants with children.

    Source: Annual Statistical Enquiry 1980.

    Consultants (Contracts)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what representations he has received concerning the wish of consultants in the National Health Service that their contracts should be held by regional health authorities rather than district health authorities; and if he will make a statement.

    I have received some 820 letters on this subject since my statement to the House on 23 July 1980—[Vol. 989, c. 506]. Most were from individuals or local groups of consultants, but the total includes letters from the British Medical Association, the Joint Consultants Committee, the Association of University Teachers and the National Association of Health Authorities. At this stage, I have nothing to add to my reply on this subject to my hon. Friend, the Member for Bromsgrove and Redditch (Mr. Miller) on 3 March.—[Vol. 1000, c. 82.]

    Mortgage Interest (Supplementary Benefit Claimants)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many unemployed people in receipt of supplementary benefit have mortgages, the interest element on which is being paid by his Department.

    At 3 December 1980, 52,000 unemployed recipients of supplementary benefit had mortgage interest included in their supplementary benefit assessment. How much supplementary benefit they actually received would depend on the difference between their total requirements and total resources.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how much was spent by the Supplementary Benefits Commission and his Department in 1980 and during the first six months of 1981 on mortgage interest on behalf of supplementary benefit claimants below retirement age.

    This information is not available because it is not possible to separate out expenditure on particular items allowed for in supplementary benefit assessment.

    Friarage Hospital, Northallerton

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he intends to make an announcement about the Friarage hospital, Northallerton, re-development stage I; and when it is expected that this work will begin.

    Approval in principle to phase I of the re-development of Friarage hospital was given on 24 July. It is planned that work on the site will start in early 1984 and that the new building will be completed and in use by the end of 1987.

    Special Cases Officers (References)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many claimants have been referred to special cases officers since November 1980; and if he will provide a breakdown of the figures by regions.

    A total of 3,886 claimants have had their cases accepted for action by special case officers during the period from 24 November 1980 to 19 May

    Number
    Scotland514
    Northern301
    Yorkshire and Humberside505
    East Midlands and East Anglia262
    West Midlands104
    Merseyside314
    North-West Manchester183
    Wales148
    London North332
    London South669
    London West239
    South West315

    National Insurance Benefits

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will subdivide the figures given in reply to the hon. Member for Birmingham, Perry Barr (Mr. Rooker) Official Report, 30 March, columns 34–5, according to whether the parents of the children affected are in receipt of short-term or long-term national insurance benefits.

    The information requested is as follows:

    November 1980—November 1981November 1981—November 1982
    Average number of children whose parents receive child dependency additions to national insurance benefit
    Long-term435,000435,000
    Short-term725,000745,000
    Average number of children whose parents receive child dependency addition to national insurance benefit but not to supplementary benefit
    Long-term410,000410,000
    Short-term500,000405,000

    Local Offices And Headquarters Employees

    asked the Secretary State for Social Services if he will publish a table showing the number of people employed (a) in the local offices and (b) at headquarters of the Department of Health and Social Security in each of the last 10 years, and the cost of their wages and salaries.

    The number of permanent staff employed by the DHSS in the areas specified on 1 April in each of the last 10 years and the cost of wages and salaries for the corresponding financial years are as follows. The balance of the Department's staff are employed mainly in the central offices at Blackpool and Newcastle, in the special hospitals, and in artificial limb and appliance centres.

    HeadquartersLocal Offices
    19727,81047,461
    1973*7,09250,950
    19747,29454,005
    19757,64257,701
    19767,95161,246
    19777,56663,472
    1978*7,26664,343
    19796,94765,207
    19806,40364,036
    19816,00765,047
    * The decreases at these dates include transfers of staff from Headquarters command as a result of organisational changes.

    Headquarters
    £ million

    Local Offices
    £ million

    1971–7217·172·6
    1972–7319·374·4
    1973–7421·691·4
    1974–7528·4120·0
    1975–7637·8162·2
    1976–7737·7191·4
    1977–7838·6216·1
    1978–7941·2240·5
    1979–8047·5271·6
    1980–8160·8348·7

    Identity Cards

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what recommendations are being considered by his Department about the issue of national insurance identity cards;(2) what proposals have been made by Sir Derek Rayner for his Department to issue plastic identification cards to every member of the population; and if he will make a statement.

    The sole purpose of the national insurance number card, which is issued automatically to

    Numbers on the Handicapped Registers by Degree of Handicap and aged under 65 England
    31 March year endingVery severely handicappedSeverely or appreciably handicappedOther classified personsUnclassified
    1974–756,83122,86727,115174,787
    1975–7616,85060,56655,729123,327
    1976–7721,67784,32976,89592,502
    1977–7824,047100,18389,11786,461
    1978–7925,505112,69996,03274,923
    Wales
    31 March year endingVery severely handicappedSeverely or appreciably handicappedOther classified personsUnclassified
    1974–756931,6847659,908
    1975–761,1043,7131,8337,556
    1976–771,2814,4592,4099,070
    1977–781,4195,5033,0938,183
    1978–792,0768,5615,9956,059
    1979–802,1819,4106,0466,724

    Elderly Persons (Statistics)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will give his Department's best estimate of the numbers of persons in the age groups 60–70 years, 70–75 years, 75–80 years and over 80 years for the years 1970, 1975, 1980, 1985, 1990 and 1995; and if he will indicate what proportion in each year of each age group may be classified as frail elderly.

    Estimates of the population of England and Wales for past years are given below, together with mid-1979 based projections. The proportion of persons in each age-group who might be classified as "frail" are not given because of lack of appropriate data and the difficulties involved in a subjective judgment. An article entitled "The elderly: age differences in the quality of life" by Audrey Hunt published in Population Trends 11 (a copy of which may be found in the House of

    school leavers and to others on application, is to tell people their national insurance numbers. The officials from the Department who carried out the Rayner scrutiny on the validation of national insurance contribution records recommended that the present cardboard card should be replaced by a plastic one serving exactly the same purpose. That recommendation is currently under consideration, together with the others in the scrutiny team's report.

    Disabled Persons (Statistics)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will give his Department's best estimate of the distribution of disabled people in degree of incapacity categories under the age of 60 years in 10 year periods for the years 1970–71, 1971–72, 1972–73, 1973–74, 1974–75, 1975–76, 1976–77, 1977–8, 1978–79, 1979–80 and 1980–81.

    Figures are not available in the form requested. However, for the years 1974–75 to 1978–79 in the case of England and for the years 1974–75 to 1979–80 in the case of Wales the numbers on the general classes registers are as follows. Such registers are not kept in Scotland, and in Northern Ireland figures have not so far been kept in this form.Commons Library) gives information about the physical condition of the elderly; it is based on the results of a survey carried out in 1976.

    Population of England and Wales (Persons)
    (thousands)
    Mid-yearAge-group
    60–6970–7475–7980 and over
    Estimates
    19705215173211741124
    19755328196512871203
    19805011210014761335
    Projections
    19855013209415731510
    19904992187115821673
    19954600208914251764

    Acute Nursing Hospitals

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will give his best estimate of the average cost per week of a bed in an acute nursing hospital under the National Health Service; if he will give an estimate of the number of beds per week occupied by geriatric patients in an acute nursing hospital; and if he will make a statement.

    Provisional figures for the year ended 31 March 1980 show an average weekly cost of about £330 for treating patients in acute, mainly acute and partly acute hospitals in England. Information is not readily available, but it is estimated that the average number of beds in such hospitals occupied during that period by patients under the care of a consultant geriatrician was about 18,000.

    £ million
    1975–761976–771977–781978–791979–801980–81
    War pensions258283310340375429
    Industrial disablement benefit145167191216244287
    Invalidity benefit4495657048409951,169
    Attendance allowance89114143168203243
    Invalid care allowance23445
    Non-contributory invalidity pension123437465771
    Housewives non-contributory invalidity pension7232833
    Retirement pension4,7975,6626,6137,5528,81410,465
    Supplementary pension4655736658018951,088

    Geriatric Patients (Costs)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will give his best estimate of the cost per week for caring for a geriatric patient in a geriatric ward under the National Health Service; if he will give the number of beds and hospitals for such patients; and if he will give a breakdown of these figures by regional health authorities.

    RegionNumber of hospitals (At 31 March 1980)Average Number of Beds AvailableAverage Cost Per In-Patient Week

    £
    Northern16844122
    Yorkshire282,192141
    Trent222,070149
    East Anglia141,176140
    North West Thames191,008160
    North East Thames151,263159
    South East Thames181,450149
    South West Thames131,365168
    Wessex201,628129
    Oxford10824182
    South Western352,477155
    West Midlands323,213158
    Mersey9747138
    North Western19985141
    ENGLAND27021,242150

    Chronically Sick And Disabled Persons (Benefits)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will give his best estimate of cash benefits to the chronically sick and disabled in 1975–76, 1976–77, 1977–78, 1978–79, 1979–80 and 1980–81.

    Benefits And Pensions

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will give his best estimate of the cash benefits paid out for war pensions, industrial disablement benefits, invalidity benefit, attendance allowance, invalid care allowance, non-contributory invalidity pension and housewives non-contributory invalidity pension in the years 1975–76, 1976–77, 1977–78, 1978–79, 1979–80 and 1980–81;(2) if he will indicate the expenditure on State retirement pensions in 1975–76, 1976–77, 1977–78, 1978–79, 1979–80 and 1980–81;(3) if he will give his best estimate of supplementary benefits paid to people of pensionable age in 1975–76, 1976–77, 1977–78, 1978–79, 1979–80, and 1980–81.

    Costs in National Health Service hospitals are calculated according to type of hospital and it is not possible to identify the cost of treating geriatric patients in hospitals in which specialties are mixed. The following table shows for the financial year ended 31 March 1980 provisional figures in respect of hospitals in England in which the beds were provided exclusively or predominantly for geriatric patients:

    Following is the estimated expenditure on cash benefits for the group defined as "disabled and long-term sick" in the public expenditure White Paper published in March this year (Cmnd. 8175, Table 2.12.1). The benefits included are invalidity benefit, non-contributory invalidity pension, mobility allowance, attendance allowance and invalid care allowance, war pension (excluding payments to widows), supplementary allowance paid on account of extended incapacity, old cases (workmen's compensation) and industrial disablement benefit. Also included are any lump sum payments (Christmas bonuses) paid on account of these benefits.The expenditure on supplementary benefit included in the total is shown in brackets.

    YearEstimated expenditure £ millions
    1975–76*1,000(130)
    1976–771,200(135)
    1977–781,470(155)
    1978–791,740(160)
    1979–802,050(185)
    1980–812,490(220)
    * Invalid care allowance and mobility allowance not included as they were introduced during 1975–76.

    Elderly Persons (Local Authority Provision)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will give his best estimate of the total cost of social service provision by local authorities for the elderly; if he will give a breakdown of home help and meals-on-wheels services and residential home services; and if he will give an estimate of central Government contribution to such costs.

    Net current expenditure on the personal social services (including the use of joint finance from health authorities) in 1979–80, the latest year for which a breakdown by services is available, amounted to £1,335 million (1980 survey prices). Out of this total, it

    Gross and Net Current Cost of Local Authority Services (England)
    £ million at 1980 survey prices
    Service1975–761976–771977–781978–791979–80
    GrossNetGrossNetGrossNetGrossNetGrossNet
    Residential care for the elderly and younger physically handicapped349·7231·4360·0238·8370·9238·5386·9248·4398·4267·0
    Residential care for the mentally ill8·16·08·86·59·47·010·17·610·98·4
    Residential care for the mentally handicapped32·726·637·630·642·134·045·937·050·641·6
    Day Centres for the elderly10·110·011·311·112·812·613·613·414·814·6
    Mixed Day Centres (for the elderly, younger physically handicapped and the mentally ill)23·522·925·624·926·525·528·227·329·228·1

    Blood Supplies (Private Health Care)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services pursuant to his reply to the hon. Member for Wolverhampton North-East on 26 March, Official Report, column 403 and 16 June, Official Report column 328, if he has yet reached a decision on whether to introduce a charge to cover the Blood Transfusion Service's handling and processing costs in supplying blood to private hospitals and clinics.

    is estimated that spending on the elderly people aged 65 and over accounted for some £630 million. Expenditure on residential home services, home help and meals services is as follows:

    Net Current Expenditure (England): 1980 Survey Prices

    £ million

    Residential care for the elderly249
    Home helps162
    Meals24

    Central Government support for local government expenditure is principally by means of rate support grant, which is a general grant and unhypothecated in respect of individual services.

    Local Authority Services (Costs)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will give his best estimate of the gross and net costs to local authorities in providing residential care for the elderly and younger physically handicapped, for the mentally ill and mentally handicapped, for the day care of elderly and younger physically handicapped, in the years 1975–76 1976–77, 1977–78, 1978–79, 1979–80 and 1980–81: and if he will give an estimate of central Government contribution to such costs.

    The following table sets out the information requested for the years 1975–76 to 1979–80 (the latest year for which breakdown of expenditure by services is available). The figures exclude joint financing contributions from health authorities since a service breakdown is not available for the whole period.Central Government support for local government expenditure is principally by means of rate support grants, which is a general grant and unhypothecated in respect of individual services.

    The Department will shortly hold discussions with representatives of the NHS and the private sector with a view to introducing charges to cover the handling and processing costs incurred by the National Blood Transfusion Service in supplying blood to private hospitals and clinics. No charge will be made for the blood itself which is of course freely donated to the National Blood Transfusion Service.

    Depo Provera

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what evidence has been submitted to the Committee on Safety of Medicines on the safety aspects of Depo Provera in the past year; and whether this casts doubt on its usage.

    I understand that the Committee on Safety of Medicines received four yellow card reports of adverse reactions associated with Depo Provera in the 12 months ended 4 February 1981—the latest date for which figures are readily available. These reports do not suggest any significant hazard to patients treated with Depo Provera in accordance with the indications for use for which the product is currently licensed.I cannot comment on data submitted to the licensing authority in support of an application for a licence for long-term contraceptive use of the product since this information is treated as confidential.

    Epilim

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he is fully satisfied of the safety of the drug Epilim used in the treatment of convulsions.

    I refer the hon. Member to my right hon. Friend's reply to the right hon. and learned Member for Aberavon (Mr. Morris) on 22 May.—[Vol. 5, Col. 218.]

    Expenditure Statistics

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his estimate of total expenditure on social security in the United Kingdom in 1981–82 expressed in 1981 cash prices; and what part of the total constitutes housing costs paid with supplementary benefit.

    Expenditure on social security benefits in the United Kingdom in 1981–82 is estimated at £27·1 billion. Housing costs included in supplementary benefit assessments are estimated to amount to about £1·6 billion.

    National Insurance Benefit

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if the entitlement to any national insurance benefit will be affected for those long-term unemployed over 60 years of age who opt for the new scheme of supplementary benefit proposed in the Supplementary Benefit (Requirements and Conditions of Entitlement) Amendment Regulations 1981.

    The long-term rate of supplementary benefit will be available to an unemployed person over 60 who has been receiving supplementary benefit for a year or more and is not registered for work with the Manpower Services Commission. It is not intended that the change should have any effect on that person's entitlement to national insurance benefits, either under or over pension age. For most such people the benefit at issue is retirement pension, and credits will continue to be available for this purpose.

    Wolverhampton (Benefits Abuse)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many people in the Wolverhampton district and travel-to-work area in the period 1979 to date have been investigated for fraudulent claiming by his Department; how many have had their benefits withdrawn; how many have subsequently been restored on appeal; and if he will break down the figures to show the category of fraud alleged.

    Arrangements for recording and monitoring the results of the Government's campaign against social security fraud and abuse were introduced in September 1979. These records indicate that, in the period 5 September 1979 to 12 May 1981, for the two local offices serving Wolverhampton and its outlying districts, 1,404 fraud investigations were conducted and 534 claimants had their benefit withdrawn or reduced. Information about the number of these claimants who subsequently had their benefit restored on appeal and the breakdown of cases by category of fraud alleged is not readily available and could be obtained only at a disproportionate cost.

    Raynaud's Phenomenon

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the illness Raynaud's Phenomenon; what are the causes of the illness; and how frequently it occurs.

    Raynaud's Phenomenon is one of the terms for white finger a condition which involves transient attacks of blanching of the fingers. Three categories are recognised: primary white finger, secondary white finger and vibration white finger.Primary or constitutional white finger occurs in about 3–4 per cent. of men and 10 per cent. of women of working age, though it is much more common than this among the elderly. There is no evident cause. Secondary white finger is associated with a number of pathological conditions, such as scleroderma, lupus erythematosis, rheumatoid arthritis, occlusive vascular disease, the costoclavicular syndrome, poliomyelitis and syringomyelia. It is not known how frequently it occurs.Vibration white finger (VWF) is the occupational form of the condition, brought on by the use of vibratory tools. It is not known how many people are affected by it. I understand that the Industrial Injuries Advisory Council, the independent statutory body which advises my right hon. Friend on industrial injuries matters, has just completed an investigation of whether VWF should be prescribed for industrial injuries purposes and its report on this question will be published in the autumn.

    Community Physicians

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether the new district health authorities will employ community physicians.

    Each district health authority will employ a district medical officer, who will have primary responsibility for community medicine in the district. In addition, individual District Health Authorities will employ Specialists in Community Medicine in accordance with their own assessment of local needs and of the most effective way of meeting them.

    Wendover Maternity Hospital, Bristol

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what progress is being made in his inquiry into the proposed closure of Wendover maternity hospital, Downend, Bristol; and if he will make a statement.

    Frenchay community health council objected to the health authority's proposal to close Wendover maternity hospital and, in accordance with our normal procedures, it has come to Ministers for final decision.Although I know of the dedicated work done by the staff of the hospital, and the support it has had from local people, it is clear that Wendover is not being used to its full capacity and should not continue as it is now. It must either be made viable or it must close.Before we take a final decision, I think it right to await the creation of the new Frenchay district health authority and to learn its views about maternity services in its district. I will let my hon. Friend know the outcome in due course.

    Diuretic Drugs

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what evidence is available to him of adverse side effects of diuretics; and what advice is given to doctors concerning their use.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what are the possible side effects of diuretic drugs; what information has been given to doctors about these; how many people are prescribed such drugs; and when the relevant Medical Research Council study will be completed.

    [pursuant to his reply, 27 July 1981]: Diuretics may cause adverse effects in some patients, and over time a wide range have been reported in association with the drugs within this group. The majority are minor and resolve quickly when treatment is discontinued (for example, skin rash, gastro-intestinal effects, headache, dizziness). Other well-documented effects included raised levels of potassium, blood sugar and uric acid. Impotence is known to occur with a few diuretic drugs and with others used in the treatments of high blood pressure; it has been suggested, more recently, that most of the widely-used diuretic agents may cause impotence in some patients.Advice about these and other possible side effects is available to doctors in the relevant product data sheets and in professional literature. No statistics are available from which a reliable estimate can be made of the number of individuals treated with diuretics. The number of prescriptions for this group of drugs, dispensed by the general pharmaceutical services, for the first 11 months of 1980 (the latest figures available) was 17,868,000.I understand that the Medical Research Council's study of hypertension is not expected to be completed until the end of 1984.

    Member's Correspondence

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services; pursuant to his reply to the right hon. Member for Manchester, Wythenshawe, on 1 July, Official Report, column 407, if he will state the date he wrote to Northumberland county council following the complaint he received from the Royal Association for Disability and Rehabilitation on 24 April, the date of the reply from the council and the date of any subsequent correspondence.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, why his inquiries into Northumberland county council following a complaint from the Royal Association of Disability and Rehabilitation on 24 April have now taken three months; if he is satisfied with the progress of his inquiries; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 27 July 1981]: A letter was sent to the chief executive of Northumberland county council on 14 May. This was acknowledged, but the first substantive reply is dated 9 July. That reply, while not a complete answer to the matter raised, is most encouraging and I hope that a full response can be sent to the Royal Association for Disability and Rehabilitation soon.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services; pursuant to his reply to the right hon. Member for Manchester, Wythenshawe, on 1 July, Official Report, c. 407, if he will state the date he wrote to Oxfordshire county council following the complaint he received from the Royal Association for Disability and Rehabilitation on 18 March, the date of the reply from the council and the dates of any subsequent correspondence.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, why his inquiries into Oxfordshire county council following a complaint from the Royal Association of Disability and Rehabilitation on 18 March have now taken four months; if he is satisfied with the progress of his inquiries; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 27 July 1981]: A letter was sent to the chief executive on 29 April. A reply was received dated 5 June. The issues raised by that reply are being considered. These matters are not straightforward, but I shall ensure that the case is pursued as rapidly as possible.

    Transport

    Building Machinery (Driving Licences)

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he intends to make it obligatory for construction and building plant operators to be licensed to drive particular types of plant.

    Everyone is required to be licensed for the appropriate class when driving a motor vehicle on a public road. Drivers must pass special tests to be qualified for road rollers and track-laying vehicles because they have special handling characteristics. Other engineering plant may be driven with an ordinary group A licence, since it is primarily used off the road, and is not capable of high speeds. I have no plans to alter this.

    East London River Crossing

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will list the properties that his Department has (a) purchased and (b) is negotiating to purchase in connection with the East London river crossing between Thamesmead and Falconwood; when these were offered to the London borough of Greenwich or Bexley for letting; and on what terms.

    At the request of the previous owners, the Department has purchased the following properties in connection with the proposed East London river crossing. They were offered to Greenwich borough council on the dates shown:

    • 11 Camrose Street, S.E.2—31 March 1981.
    • 118 Wickham Lane, S.E.2—12 March 1981.
    • 31 Camrose Street, S.E.2—30 April 1981.
    • 291 Plumstead High Street, S.E.2—30 April 1981.
    • 336 Plumstead High Street, S.E.2—30 April 1981.
    They were offered at rentals assessed by the district valuer for an initial period of three years: this can be extended depending on when they are required for the start of work.Further requests from owners of several other properties are under consideration. It would not be right for me to publish details of confidential negotiations of this sort involving private individuals.

    Travel-To-Work Costs

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport what is his estimate of the average weekly travel-to-work cost.

    The average weekly travel-to-work cost in Great Britain as at May 1981 is estimated as £3·80.

    Driving Schools

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he has received any representations from driving schools which have had to close as a result of the effect of the civil servants' dispute on the issue of provisional driving licences.

    My right hon. Friend has received a large number of representations from individual driving schools and instructors who are experiencing difficulties as a result of the delay in issuing first provisional driving licences. He is proposing to make regulations to tackle these difficulties by enabling first-time applicants to drive as soon as possible after the Transport Bill receives Royal Assent.

    Road Congestion (London)

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether he has had any recent discussions with the Greater London Council about congestion on the roads in London, particularly at rush-hours.

    This is a regular theme in discussion of our respective responsibilities for public transport, roads and traffic regulation in London. For our part we are pressing ahead with our programme of trunk road schemes, including important improvements to the North Circular Road, which have the aim of reducing congestion.

    Disabled Driver's Badge (Raynaud's Phenomenon)

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether Raynaud's Phenomenon is considered to be a symptom which would entitle an applicant to a disabled driver's badge issued under section 21 of the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act 1970.

    Entitlement is not related to particular illnesses. It is for local authorities to determine (with the benefit of medical opinions if necessary) the eligibility or otherwise of applicants, in accordance with the criteria laid down in the Disabled Persons (Badge for Motor Vehicles) Regulations 1975. In general terms anyone who suffers from a permanent and substantial disability which causes considerable difficulty in walking or who is blind may be eligible for a badge.

    Environment

    Council House Sales

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether his policy of permitting council tenants to purchase their council houses from local authorities also applies to those allocated houses by local housing association with Government funds; and on what basis such sales are controlled.

    Under the Housing Act 1980 tenants of non-charitable housing associations which have received Government funds enjoy the right to buy their homes on the same terms, and subject to the same exclusions, as local authority tenants. Charitable housing associations were also empowered by the Act to sell to tenants if they wished to do so, and to offer discounts off market value up to the level available under the right to buy.No distinction is made in the Act between those housing association tenants who were originally nominated to housing association dwellings by local authorities and those who were not.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what further steps he is taking regarding those authorities where he is still contemplating use of his powers of intervention under section 23 of the Housing Act 1980.

    My right hon. Friend is today sending letters to the following authorities stating that he is contemplating intervention under section 23 of the Housing Act 1980:

    Gateshead, Hackney, Leeds, Leicester, Norwich, Sunderland and Watford.
    A further five authorities, to which my right hon. Friend sent similar letters a few weeks ago, have now given precise undertakings as to their timetables for processing the right to buy applications which they have received. In the light of these undertakings and other measures these five authorities are taking, my right hon. Friend has written to them today to inform them that he has decided not to intervene at the present time. He will continue to monitor carefully whether the tenants of these authorities have or may have difficulty in exercising their right to buy effectively and expeditiously and whether these authorities are fulfilling their undertakings within the timetables which they have given. These five authorities are as follows:

    Barnsley, Burnley, Middlesbrough, Walsall and Waltham Forest.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what representations he has received from council tenants whose local authority is seeking to make the exchange of a council dwelling conditional on their forfeiting their right to buy the house or flat to which they will move.

    My attention has been drawn to a letter from Norwich council relating to council tenents seeking to arrange mutual exchanges. In this letter the council state that it will consider mutual exchanges only if carried out by way of assignment. The effect of this would be to deny council tenants the right to buy the house or flat to which they moved and also to remove their statutory security of tenure. The Government consider that it is totally unacceptable for a local authority to try to exploit a tenant's wish to exchange in order to get him to forfeit his right to buy. The Government will bring forward legislation to prevent this practice being continued. As this practice represents an attempt to remove from individuals their rights under existing legislation, the legislation will, subject to parliamentary approval, be given effect as from today.

    Heathrow Airport

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he has decided to call in the planning application made to the Hillingdon borough council in respect of the proposed fifth terminal at Heathrow airport, London; and if he will make a statement.

    The planning applications made to Hillingdon and Spelthorne borough councils by Uttlesford district council have now been called in for decision by my right hon. Friend. A public inquiry into the applications will be held concurrently with that into the application relating to development at Stansted airport. The inquiries will open on 29 September at Quendon Park, near Bishop's Stortford. Local public sessions of the Heathrow inquiry will be held in a convenient local venue.

    Sewage Treatment (Expenditure Cuts)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will now restore all public expenditure cuts to water authorities for the treatment of raw sewage; and if he will make a statement.

    We have no plans to do so. Water authorities' capital allocations are determined in the light of the overall strategy for the economy. Within individual allocations it is for the water authorities themselves to decide priorities and determine how much will be spent on sewage treatment. In the last three years, water authorities have spent an increasing proportion of their capital allocations on this work.

    Liverpool, Manchester And Glasgow (Financial Assistance)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will state how much public financial assistance for each of the last 10 years has been given to Liverpool, Manchester and Glasgow.

    The total financial assistance from public funds paid to an area of the country is not recorded centrally and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

    Bathing Beaches (Pollution)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) if he has considered the list of bathing beaches compiled in response to the European Economic Community directive; and if study of this matter leads him to conclude that there are any beaches in the United Kingdom or within the rest of the Community where pollution is at such a level that the tourist should be advised to stay away;(2) if he is satisfied that local authorities are properly concerned to ensure that bathing waters and beaches are not affected by sewage pollution.

    The bathng waters identified by other member States of the Community, and their quality, are not matters for me.As to United Kingdom coastal waters, there is for all practical purposes no risk to health from bathing. However, there are many areas which suffer from the effects of unsatisfactory short sewage outfalls. Water authorities, which have had responsibility for sewage disposal since their formation in 1974, have been making considerable efforts to improve the situation. A number of major schemes have been completed and many are due for completion in the next two years. But, since health cnsiderations are not involved, spending on further schemes must be weighed against the need to deal with other local problems and the availability of resources. I have no evidence to suggest that water authorities do not take their responsibilites in this field seriously.I am sending the hon. Member a note dealing more generally with the implications of the European Community directive, the disposal of sewage through sea outfalls, and bathing and health. I am placing a copy in the Library.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) when he proposes to add to the list of bathing beaches which have been notified to the European Commission as complying with the directive on bathing waters;(2) if he will list those beaches which have now been listed as complying with the European Economic Community directive;(3) why beaches at the following coastal resorts have not been included in the list forwarded to the European Commission of areas of beach or bathing water of satisfactory standard: Aberystwyth, Rhyl, Llandudno, Blackpool, Morecambe, Heysham, Whitby, Great Yarmouth, Felixstowe, Brighton, Hastings, Eastbourne, Broadstairs and Minehead.

    The list of bathing waters identified as falling within the definitions contained in the European Community directive was given by my hon. Friend the Member for Shipley (Mr. Fox) in answer to a question on 14 December 1979 from my hon. Friend the Member for Bournemouth, East (Mr. Atkinson).—[Vol. 975, c. 818.] The identification of these waters was made in the light of the advice issued to water authorities and local authorities and referred to in the answer given by my right hon. Friend the Minister for Local Government and Environmental Services to the question on 9 July 1979 from my hon. Friend the Member for Wirral (Mr. Hunt).—[Vol. 970, c. 98] All waters meeting the selection criteria were identified. Other bathing water areas which failed to meet the criteria, including those listed by the hon. Member, remain outside the scope of the directive.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the proportion of the United Kingdom's total number of beaches which have been listed as complying with the conditions set down in the European Economic Community directive on bathing water.

    This information could not be obtained except at disproportionate cost. However, the bathing waters identified cover about 42 kilometres of coastline.

    Housing Associations

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the average time between formal submissions of proposals by a housing association to the Housing Corporation and their approval.

    Such statistical evidence as is available is in the National Federation of Housing Associations new build and rehabilitation pipeline studies carried out between 1974 and 1978. These indicated that under the arrangements then prevailing, which required scrutiny of schemes by both the Housing Corporation and the Department of the Environment, the average time between scheme submission and approval for new build schemes was 15 weeks, and for renovation schemes was three weeks where simplified procedures applied and six weeks where they did not.Information is not yet available for schemes approved by the Housing Corporation since April 1981 under the new single scrutiny arrangements.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what proportion of applications formally submitted by a housing association to the Housing Corporation are subsequently withdrawn.

    The information is not available. However, the proportion of such cases is believed to be very small.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is satisfied with the procedure of the Housing Corporation for handling applications from housing associations.

    The new arrangement for single scrutiny by the Housing Corporation which came into effect on 1 April this year should prove to be a material improvement on the previous double scrutiny by the Department and the corporation. In conjunction with the corporation and the National Federation of Housing Associations, I shall continue to look for ways in which further improvements in scheme scrutiny might be achieved subject to the need to maintain satisfactory value and accountability for public funds.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many proposals from housing associations for housing schemes for disabled people have been approved by the Housing Corporation in each of the last five years.

    Numbers of new housing association dwellings in England designed for the chronically sick and disabled, for which housing cost yardstick approval was granted, are published for 1976 and 1977 in "Housing and Construction Statistics: 1969–1979"—table 62—and for 1978 to 1980 in "Housing and Construction Statistics: Part 2; No. 5"—table 2.14. Copies are available in the Library. Separate information for schemes funded by the Housing Corporation is not available.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) what is his estimate of the cost of abortive work undertaken by housing associations and the Housing Corporation as a result of the Housing Corporation' s decision not to allow informal discussions prior to formal submission of applications;(2) when the Housing Corporation ceased to allow housing associations to have informal discussions concerning proposed projects; why this decision was taken; and if he will make a statement.

    I have no estimate of the cost of abortive work. The Housing Corporation has not ceased to allow housing associations to have informal discussions on proposed projects. Its recently issued schemework procedure guide, available to all housing associations and their consultants, advises informal liaison with the corporation's regional offices.

    Local Authorities (New Town Houses)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether, in respect of dwellings owned by local authorities transferred from new town development corporations where the cost of remedial works to make good design or construction deficiencies is only slightly less than the cost of building replacement dwellings to modern standards, he will agree to write off outstanding loan charges on such properties following demolition.

    No. Outstanding loan charges on dwellings that are demolished do not count for subsidy. However, the actual cost of demolition may be admissible for subsidy if the site is redeveloped for housing.

    Households

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is his latest estimate of the total number of households in the United Kingdom.

    It is estimated there were 20·4 million households in the United Kingdom in mid-1980.

    Northern Ireland

    Housing Executive (Unadopted Roads)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will list the Northern Ireland Housing Executive estates in which roads are unadopted; and which estates are unadopted five years after the completion of the contract.

    This is a matter for the Northern Ireland Housing Executive and the roads service of the Department of the Environment for Northern Ireland. A comprehensive list of unadopted roads is not available and could be compiled only at disproportionate cost.

    Sheltered Dwellings

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many sheltered dwellings the Northern Ireland Housing Executive plans to build in each of the next five years for the physically disabled in Belfast and South-Eastern regions; and what are the locations of and numbers on each site.

    This is a matter for the Northern Ireland Housing Executive but the chairman has informed me that the approved new build programme for 1981–82 contains proposals for sheltered dwellings at:

    LocationNumber
    Bernagh Drive22
    RDA 29 Newtownards Road25
    Peter's Hill27
    A scheme for 27 dwellings at Brougham Street was to start in April 1982 but may be brought forward if finance is available. No schemes are planned for the South-East region in 1981–82.The hon. Gentleman will be aware that housing associations are also active in this field.

    Annual Parades

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland which parades are recognised as annual parades by the Royal Ulster Constabulary; and what is the location of each such parade.

    The information requested could not be produced without disproportionate cost.

    Easter Sunday Parades

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many parades took place on Easter Sunday, 19 April, in Northern Ireland; by whom they were organised; for which parades the statutory notice was given by the organisers to the Royal Ulster Constabulary; and how many prosecutions have resulted.

    A total of 22 parades not requiring prior notification to the Royal Ulster Constabulary are known to have been held in Northern Ireland on 19 April. 21 of these were organised by the National Graves or Sinn Fein Associations and one by the Faith Mission Society. One parade in respect of which prior notification ought to have been given to the Royal Ulster Constabulary is known to have been held. It was organised as part of the anti H-Block campaign. No prosecution has resulted.

    Housing Executive (Vesting Orders)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many houses have been included in vesting orders for the Northern Ireland Housing Executive in Belfast district 2 and Belfast district 7 in each of the past four years; and how many houses have been built in both these districts in each of the past four years.

    This is a matter for the Northern Ireland Housing Executive but I understand from the chairman that the position is as follows:The total number of houses included in Vesting orders for the Northern Ireland Housing Executive in Belfast districts 2 and 7 in the past four years is as follows:

    Redevelopment Areas

    Housing Action Areas*

    District 2

    District 7

    District 2

    District 7

    1977–782591,6816631
    1978–7984NIL3710
    1979–801,270NIL8736
    1980–81NILNIL16438

    * Acquired for rehabilitation.

    The number of houses built in these districts in the past four years is as follows:

    District 2

    District 7

    1977–7895130
    1978–79180108
    1979–808423
    1980–81101151

    Experimental Dwellings, Newtownabbey

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he is satisfied with the performance of the 14 experimental dwellings erected by the Northern Ireland Housing Executive at New Mossley, Newtownabbey; and what are his intentions for the future regarding timber frame and volumetric factory-produced housing.

    This is a matter for the Northern Ireland Housing Executive but I understand from the chairman that the position is as follows:The performance of these dwellings has been highly satisfactory. In the electrically heated units, the running costs monitored over a full year's heating cycle have shown an average weekly cost for space and water heating at less than £5 for warm air system, and less than £6 for night storage heaters. The weekly cost for solid fuel heating has yet to be determined by the Coal Advisory Service, but will be much lower than for a system in a traditionally built structure. The tenants are satisfied with the heating of the dwellings.Discussions with the regions have begun to seek further tenders for timber frame dwellings on selected contracts, where high wall insulation can be achieved with minimum additional capital outlay. The builder of the volumetric houses has retired and it is unlikely that a viable future programme, big enough to open a factory, can be devised.The executive has already increased to the higher level the roof space insulation of all new dwellings at tender stage or later, in advance of the building regulations coming into force in 1982.

    Prisoners (Meals)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what constitutes the daily menu of prisoners in the Maze prison and other prisons in Northern Ireland; what is its protein content; and how its cost compares with meals available in other institutions such as schools and hospitals.

    The food provided for prisoners in Northern Ireland is based on a dietary scale, the daily menu being left to the discretion of each prison. The Prison Service medical advisers have approved the items appearing in the dietary scale and the quantities that are served; and variations or additions are permitted for prisoners who hold certain religious beliefs, who are vegetarians, or who need special diets.

    Average protein content is 121 grams per day. The average cost of foodstuffs, per prisoner per week, is currently £5·93.

    Because of the different arrangements for providing meals, and the differing requirements of those receiving them, realistic comparisons with other institutions are impractical.

    Rating Offices

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will list the new rating offices in Northern Ireland; and what are the council areas and wards which they each cover.

    The information is as follows:

    Rates OfficeDistrict Council Areas
    BelfastBelfast, Castlereagh Newtownabbey'
    NewtownabbeyCarrickfergus, Larne
    BallymenaBallymena, Antrim Coleraine, Ballymoney,
    ColeraineMagherafelt, Moyle Londonderry,
    LondonderryLimavady
    OmaghOmagh, Strabane Cookstown,
    CookstownDungannon
    EnniskillenFermanagh
    CraigavonCraigavon, Armagh
    LisburnLisburn, Banbridge
    NewryNewry and Mourne
    BangorNorth Down, Ards
    DownpatrickDown
    Total Applications ReceivedApplications ProceedingOffers MadeOffers AcceptedSolicitors InstructedContracts SignedSales Completed
    Belfast District 2532515500230230206157
    Castlereagh Borough200119491933743645426281
    South East Region799676936753243117901040653

    Listed Buildings

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he is satisfied that the spirit and intent of the statutory order governing listed buildings is being observed by the owners and enforced by his Department; and if he will make a statement.

    Disabled Persons (Home Adaptations)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many units of (a) wheelchair housing and (b) mobility housing were started by the Housing Executive in each quarter of 1979 and 1980 and the first quarter of 1981; and if he will state in each case the percentage difference from the equivalent quarter of the preceding year.

    [pursuant to his reply, 27 July 1981]: This is a matter for the Northern Ireland Housing Executive whose chairman informs me that the

    Foyle Fisheries Commission (Shooting Incident)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will call for a report from the Chief Constable of the Royal Ulster Constabulary on the progress of the investigations into the recent incident in Lough Foyle when shots were fired at members of the staff of the Foyle Fisheries Commission; and whether the incident took place in British waters.

    Both the Royal Ulster Constabulary arid the Garda Siochana are continuing their investigations into this incident and I do not think it necessary to call for a special report from the Chief Constable of the Royal Ulster Constabulary.The incident took place in. United Kingdom waters.

    Housing Executive (House Sales)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many Northern Ireland Housing Executive tenants in (a) Belfast district 2, (b) Castlereagh borough council area and (c) South-Eastern region have indicated an interest in purchasing their homes; how many in each category have been given a valuation; and how many sales have been completed.

    This is a matter for the Northern Ireland Housing Executive, but I am informed by the chairman that the position at 17 July 1981 was:information is not readily available in the form requested, and could be compiled only at disproportionate cost. Since 12 April 1978 all bungalows have been built to mobility standards.

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many houses owned by the Housing Executive were adapted to meet the needs of disabled occupants in 1980.

    [pursuant to his reply, 27 July 1981]: This is a matter for the Northern Ireland Housing Executive but I understand from the chairman that the information is not readily available in the form requested, and could be compiled only at disproportionate cost. In the year ended 31 March 1981, 2,376 adaptations were carried out.

    Salmon Netting

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland whether the nets recently confiscated from vessels fishing illegally for salmon off the north coast of Northern Ireland were in all respects within the legal definitions laid down; and, if not, in what way they fell short of the definition.

    [pursuant to his reply, 27 July 1981]: No. In each case, contrary to the byelaws made by the Fisheries Conservancy Board for Northern Ireland, sections of the nets were made from synthetic fibres which contained material not constructed of either two or more filament yarns twisted and plied together or three or more filament yarns braided together.

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what was the exact, or approximate, cost of the nets which were recently confiscated from vessels fishing illegally for salmon off the north coast of Northern Ireland assuming that they were to be purchased new in 1981.

    [pursuant to his reply, 27 July 1981]: The precise dimensions of the nets, which were very far from new, are not known, but it is estimated they would cost around £1,300 and £1,500 respectively at 1981 prices if they had been.

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland whether the nets recently seized from vessels fishing illegally for salmon off the north coast of Northern Ireland were (a) destroyed, (b) sold back to the persons from whom they were confiscated or (c) otherwise disposed of; and, if sold, what was the price received.

    [pursuant to his reply, 27 July 1981]: The nets recently seized from vessels fishing illegally for salmon off the north coast of Northern Ireland were, following conviction of the owners, sold back to the previous owners for £100 each under the terms of the Fisheries Act [Northern Ireland] 1966.

    Defence

    Service Personnel (Rent And Rate Rebates)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence, what percentage and number of Armed Forces personnel were in receipt of rent and rates rebate in the latest year.

    The latest figures available show that in June 1981, some 308 members of the Army and 43 members of the RAF were receiving rent and rate rebates under the Armed Forces scheme, or 0·18 per cent. and 0·05 per cent. respectively of the total strength of each Service. There were no claimants in the Royal Navy in that month.

    Ex-Service Personnel (Foreign Service)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what aid and guidance is given to former members of Her Majesty's forces seeking employment as mercenaries or in any other capacity in military units operating in Southern Africa.

    It is laid down in Queen's Regulations that an officer who leaves the active list must not, so long as he continues to hold a commission of to draw retired pay, enter any service of any orher Government without prior approval of the Defence Council. Other ranks are not required to seek approval for employment with overseas Governments and in their case the question of providing advice and guidance does not arise.

    Cruise Missile

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will name the sites in Great Britain for the deployment of the cruise missile.

    As my right hon. Friend the present Leader of the House made clear in the House on 17 June 1980, the United States ground-launched cruise missiles to be deployed to the United Kingdom will be stationed at RAF Greenham Common and RAF Molesworth.—[Vol. 986, c. 1342–44.]

    Royal Air Force Support Areas

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he has yet identified the reduction in Royal Air Force support areas which he said in paragraph 41 of Cmnd. 8288 would be necessary.

    Work on this continues and detailed decisions should be taken by the end of this year. My Department is studying whether the work at present carried out at RAF Kemble, including that by number 5 maintenance unit, could be transferred elsewhere, in which case the maintenance unit and station could be closed.The Departmental trade unions, and the other interests involved, are being consulted.

    Vickers Ltd

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the cost to his Department of compensation for Vickers Ltd. in respect of the cancellation of the contract to supply engines for tanks for Iran, in addition to the £5·1 million cost of the transfer to Rolls-Royce Motors Ltd. of building and equipment.

    The claim in respect of cancellation is being settled in stages, and when finalised is likely to be contained in its entirety within funds already provided by Iran.

    Hms "Endurance"

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what consultations have taken place with the people of the Falkland Islands concerning his proposal to scrap the ice patrol ship HMS "Endurance" in 1982; and what proposals he has for ensuring an adequate defence capability in the South Atlantic if his proposals are implemented.

    No such consultations have taken place. The Royal Marines garrison stationed in the Falkland Islands is being maintained at its present strength as a tangible demonstration of our commitment to the defence of the islands. It is also intended that HM ships will continue to deploy to the South Atlantic from time to time.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what part is played by the ice patrol ship HMS "Endurance" in servicing the requirements of the force of Royal Marines stationed in the Falkland Islands.

    HMS "Endurance" is responsible for transporting members of the Royal Marines garrison between the Falkland Islands and the South American mainland, as part of their annual roulement, and also assists in this resupply.

    British Antarctic Territory

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the annual cost of maintaining the Royal Marines based in the Falkland Islands; what other personnel for which he has departmental responsibility are stationed in the Falklands and Dependencies, in the British Antarctic Territory or elsewhere in the South Atlantic; and at what cost.

    The annual cost of maintaining the Royal Marines garrison in the Falkland Islands is currently estimated at around £600,000. There are also two RAF chief technicians on loan to the Falkland Islands Government, who meet their costs.

    Gibraltar

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what proposals he has for the future of Gibraltar dockyard.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the answers I gave my hon. Friends the Members for Ashford (Mr. Speed) on 16 July and Melton (Mr. Latham) on 22 July.—[Vol. 9, c. 185–6.]

    Hms "Fearless"

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the original cost of HMS "Fearless"; and what would be the estimated cost of a replacement at current prices.

    HMS "Fearless" originally cost £10·6 million. It is not possible to provide an estimate for the replacement cost of this ship, since there are no plans to replace her and therefore no basis upon which to formulate a cost estimate.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the estimated annual cost of maintaining HMS "Fearless" in commission and in reserve, respectively.

    The estimated annual costs are:

    • in commission — £7·6 million
    • in reserve — £0·3 million
    However, if she was to be placed in reserve, HMS "Fearless" would first require a refit which would cost approximately £15 million at current prices.The figure of £0·3 million does not take account of the cost of unforeseen maintenance problems which, owing to the highly specialised nature of the vessel, would probably be expensive to overcome.

    Roll-On/Roll-Off Ships

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether civilian roll-on/roll-off ships can land vehicles on beaches.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many hards on which civilian roll-on/roll-off ships can land vehicles are in existence in Northern Norway.

    Defence Expenditure

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the estimate of defence revenue arid capital spending for 1980–81; and what were the actual amounts of spending on revenue and capital.

    On the assumption that my hon. Friend is referring to the level of current and capital expenditure, the defence budget estimates for 1980–81 were:

    1980–81 Estimates Prices
    £ million
    Current Expenditure10,671·5
    Capital Expenditure113·0
    Total10,784·5
    Final outturn figures for 1980–81 are not yet available.In accordance with United Nations conventions for maintaining national accounts, most expenditure on defence equipment and construction is classified as current expenditure. The equipment portion of the figure is £5,352 million.

    Woolwich Arsenal

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence when the survey of soil contamination at the surplus Woolwich Arsenal site adjacent to Beresford Square, S.E.18 was started; and when the results are expected to be announced.

    I have been asked to reply.The survey began in March 1981 and a report with an assessment by PSA engineers, was received on 16 July 1981.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence when land at Woolwich Arsenal adjacent to Beresford Square, S.E.18 first became surplus to his Department's needs; when it was first offered to the London borough of Greenwich; what stage negotiations have now reached; and when the site will be offered for sale in the open market.

    I have been asked to reply.The Ministry of Defence declared the land surplus in 1965. The site was first formally offered to the London borough of Greenwich on 11 April 1968 following informal discussion. In March this year Greenwich said it was now unlikely to purchase the surplus land and proposed a joint sale of this site and adjacent ones belonging to CEGB and itself. The offer of the whole site for sale depends on the progress of discussions on this proposal and the decision by the Ministry of Defence on the extent to which the site will need to be decontaminated before sale. I am in touch with my hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State for Defence Procurement on this aspect.Terms have been agreed subject to assessment of the price by the district valuer for the sale of 2·5 acres fronting Plumstead Road to the GLC for road improvements.