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Written Answers

Volume 12: debated on Tuesday 10 November 1981

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday 10 November 1981

National Finance

European Community Budget

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, further to Cmnd. No. 8187, "Statement on the 1981 Community Budget", he can now provide estimates of member States' net contributions and receipts in respect of the European Community budget for 1981.

The Commission has produced the following estimates for net contributions (-) and receipts, before taking account of the settlement of 30 May last year, which gave the United Kingdom net refunds in respect of 1981 of 1410 million ecus.

million ecus
Germany-1647
France624
Netherlands223
Belgium388
Denmark302
Luxembourg282
United Kingdom-1505
Italy619
Ireland591
Greece123

Overseas Development

Development Council (Meeting)

asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will outline the outcome of the European Community Development Council meeting in Brussels on 3 November.

The Council adopted a resolution on aid to agricultural production and food aid, setting out new and welcome guidelines to improve the effectiveness of Community aid in this sector and to avoid the negative effects of food aid. I am placing a copy of this resolution in the Library. The Council also considered proposals for a plan of action against world hunger: it agreed that the Community should provide help to developing countries in adopting and implementing food strategies and also, as a special immediate measure, additional food aid for the least developed countries.The Council approved new procedures designed to enable the Community to respond quickly with help in emergencies. It considered draft guidelines for the 1982 programme of aid to non-associated developing countries and confirmed that the programme should be directed towards assisting the poorest countries and the most needy sections of the population.The Council had an exchange of views on recent developments in the North-South dialogue. It agreed to undertake further work on the energy needs of developing countries, trade promotion, and the role of women in development.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Defamation Proceedings (Departmental Assistance)

asked the Lord Privy Seal what are the precise terms upon which assistance from public funds has recently been granted to an official of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office to institute defamation proceedings; and, in particular, to what extent the Department will be reimbursed for actual expenditure from any damages which may be awarded to the official.

No assistance from public funds has been granted to enable an official of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office to institute defamation proceedings. Mr. Kirby's decision to sue Private Eye was his alone and no promise or other indication of financial help was made to him before he took the decision.The terms of the financial support offered to Mr. Kirby are, in substance, that the Foreign and Commonwealth Office has agreed to reimburse him his reasonable costs as a result of his legal action. However, certain elements must be referred to the Foreign and Commonwealth Office before they are agreed.It is not envisaged that there will be any actual expenditure from public funds before the completion of the proceedings, so no question of reimbursement is expected to arise.If damages were awarded to Mr. Kirby in excess of his costs, obviously no payment would be made to him from public funds.

Afghanistan (Military Supplies)

asked the Lord Privy Seal whether any military equipment is being made available to the indigenous population of Afghanistan to enable them to combat the occupying Soviet forces; and if he will make a statement.

It is important that the Afghan Resistance should have the arms it needs. Arms appear to be getting through, but it is not helpful to discuss sources of supply. Her Majesty's Government have made clear many times their unqualified support for the people of Afghanistan in their struggle against the occupation by some 85,000 Soviet troops.

Northern Ireland

Homosexual Law (Reform)

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, in view of the recent judgment of the European Court, when he proposes to introduce proposals for the reform of homosexual laws in Northern Ireland.

The Government are currently studying the judgment of the European Court of Human Rights in the case of Jeffrey Dudgeon, and I shall be making a statement in due course.

The Border

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland whether the Government are considering any plans to seek to re-draw the boundary between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.

Terrorism

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (1) how many convicted remand or other prisoners who have escaped from custody in Northern Ireland or the British mainland are now believed to be living in the Republic of Ireland;(2) in how many cases terrorist attacks on the security forces and civilians, including attacks on business premises have been launched from, or supplied from, the Republic of Ireland;(3) in how many instances the security forces believe that terrorists escaped capture by crossing the border into the Republic of Ireland.

[pursuant to his replies, 9 November 1981]: These are not matters for which reliable statistical information can be made available.

Home Department

British Nationality Act 1981

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what will be the commencement day for the British Nationality Act 1981.

Citizens Band Radio

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether there are any proposals to use riggalysers to monitor citizens band radio.

No. The radio interference service of British Telecom already has adequate equipment for detecting the use of illicit citizens band radio.

Yorkshire Ripper (Inquiry)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to receive the report of the inquiry into the Yorkshire Ripper investigation conducted by a member of Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Police; and what plans he has to publish all or part of the report.

I expect to receive the report at the beginning of December. When I have received and considered the report I shall make an announcement about its findings and recommendations.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) if he will consider publishing in whole or in part, when it is completed, the Byford report dealing with the inquiry into the conduct of the investigations into the case known as the Yorkshire Ripper murders;(2) when he expects to make a statement to the House on the Byford report dealing with the inquiry into the conduct of the investigation into the case known as the Yorkshire Ripper murders.

I expect to receive the report at the beginning of December. When I have received and considered the report I shall make an announcement about its findings and recommendations.

Prison Chaplaincy Service

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what are the salary scales for all grades within the prison chaplaincy service, together with any benefits in kind.

The information is as follows:

Annual Salary Scales £
Chaplain General15,010, 16,080, 17,418, 18,755
Assistant Chaplain General and Senior Roman Catholic Chaplain12,710
Regional Chaplain and Assistant Senior
Roman Catholic Chaplain11,693
Chaplain I10,336
Chaplain II8,9359,2589,641
Assistant Chaplain (Trainee)8,113
Part-time Chaplain*7,9808,2698,611
* Individual salaries are assessed as 1/42nd of these rates for each hour of average weekly attendance.
In addition, the grades of chaplain I, chaplain II and assistant chaplain (trainee) receive environment allowance of £374 a year and a rent-free house or rent allowance—ranging between minimum of £52 a year, maximum of £1,300 a year depending on individual circumstances. Members of these grades serving at establishments classified as inconvenient receive an inconvenience of locality allowance ranging from £32·36 to £144·07 a year.Full-time chaplain grades serving in the London area receive London weighting at the following rates—if living in official quarters £756 pa (inner London), £310 pa (outer London): if living in own accommodation, or if in a non-quarters entitled grade £1,016 pa (inner London), £424 pa (outer London). These rates are at present under review.Full-time chaplains are reimbursed the cost of replacement cassocks. Part-time chaplains may be loaned cassocks for use, or reimbursed half cost if they purchase their own.All full-time chaplain grades are superannuable under the principal Civil Service pension scheme.Visiting ministers, and substitutes for full-time and part-time chaplains, are paid a fee of £3·65 an hour, and travelling expenses.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he plans to reduce expenditure on the prison chaplaincy service; and if he will ensure that prisoners of all denominations receive adequate spiritual and pastoral care.

There may be marginal reductions in expenditure arising from changes in staffing arrangements but these changes have been designed to ensure that there is no reduction in the spiritual and pastoral care available.

Civil Defence

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he proposes to make more information on civil defence available to the public.

The Government are publishing today a pamphlet which answers some of the more commonly asked questions on civil defence. Supplies have been despatched to local authorities, police forces and voluntary organisations. and in addition are available by direct request to the Home Office emergency services division. Copies have been placed in the Library of the House and the Vote Office.

Immigration (Interviews)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will list the current number of persons awaiting interview for admission to the United Kingdom at the High Commissions in Delhi, Bombay and Dacca, respectively, and the comparable figures for 1980 and 1979.

Information for the three missions is given in the following table. the figures for each country of the Indian Sub-continent are published in the quarterly Home Office statistical bulletin on "Control of Immigration: Statistics"—table 6 of issue 19/81.

Entry clearances for immediate settlement: Number of persons awaiting decision on applications at 30 June*
197919801981
New Delhi1,6701,7701,500
Bombay1,7701,7601,630
Dacca14,10014,83012,380
* Includes people who have been interviewed but whose applications remain undetermined.

Wales

Shorthold Tenancies

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many shorthold tenancies have been registered in Wales to the latest available date.

At mid-August 1981, 112 fair rent registrations were identified as shorthold. This figure does not include those new shorthold tenancies of properties for which rents had been registered in some other context over the preceding three years, and should therefore be used with caution.

Small Businesses

asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether he is satisfied that the advisory services for small businesses are adequately coordinated to give the maximum and speedy help to small businesses and those wishing to establish a small business; and whether he has any plans for further improving those services.

Advisory services to small businesses in Wales are provided by a number of bodies including my industry department's small firms centre, the Welsh Development Agency and the Development Board for Rural Wales. A very comprehensive and quickly responsive service is provided. The business opportunities programme, launched earlier this year, is intended amongst other things to make more widely known the services available.

Sheep Scab

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many outbreaks of sheep scab were confirmed in Wales during 1981; and if he will make a statement.

Eleven to date. The compulsory dipping reintroduced this year will, I trust, lead to a reduction in future years.

Pig Industry

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he is satisfied with the state of the pig industry in Wales; and if he will make a statement.

Over the past year both the Welsh pig breeding herd and Welsh market prices increased by about 6 per cent., reflecting an improving confidence in that sector of the industry.

Value Added Tax

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will set out in the Official Report his estimates of the amounts of value added tax paid by each area health authority in Wales for the years 1978–79, 1979–80, 1980–81 and 1981–82.

This information is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

National Health Service (Private Contractors)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales to what extent the use of private contractors has increased in the cleaning, laundry and maintenance services in National Health Service hospitals; and if he will make a statement of his policy in this matter.

I know of no appreciable increase in the use of private contractors in the cleaning, laundry and maintenance services in the National Health Service in Wales. It is my policy to encourage health authorities to make more use of commercial contracts which, under properly controlled conditions, could lead to greater efficiency and free money for patient care.

Ambulance Services

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he is satisfied with the provision of routine and emergency ambulance services available in each of the health authorities in Wales; how many centres have been closed down and not replaced during the past 12 months; and what changes there have been in the personnel establishment.

Yes. During the past 12 months no ambulance centres have closed and 41 more staff have been recruited.

Badger Tuberculosis

asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether there are any areas in Wales which are still giving cause for concern because of badger tuberculosis; and what steps his Department have taken.

There is still cause for concern within the old counties of Carmarthen and Pembroke. The Department is carrying out investigations into badger activity where bovine TB has been identified in herds. In the few areas where badgers have been found to be infected the setts are gassed.

Secretary Of State (Speech)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether he will make available the speech he made at the conference on services for mentally handicapped people in Wales in Cardiff on 3 November.

I have today placed copies of my speech in the Library of the House. My Department is circulating the speech to all the organisations represented at the conference and to other interested bodies.

Environment

Shellfish Waters (European Community Directive)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what progress has been made in implementing the European Community directive on shellfish waters.

A report listing the waters designated by the United Kingdom for the purposes of this directive has been sent to the European Community Commission. 27 shellfish waters capable of meeting the water quality standards in the directive, totalling some 314 square kilometers in area, have been designated in the initial round. Of these, six stretches of water have been designated in the Anglian water authority area, one in Northhumbria, two in Wessex, three in the South West, five in the Southern water authority area and 10 in Scotland. A list giving further details will be placed in the Library. It is expected that further designations will be made in future years.

Council House Sales

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) which housing authorities in England instruct independent private practice solicitors and valuers to convey and appraise council house sales under the right-to-buy provisions of the Housing Act 1980; and what is the average time taken in such instances from the initial service of form RTBI by the tenant to legal completion;(2) for each housing authority in England, what is the average length of time taken to

(a) process the RTBI forms, (6) receive the valuation reports from the appointed valuer, (c) make formal offer to the tenant, (d) exchange contracts and (e) formally complete.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will now bring up to date the statistics in the document on council house sales placed in the Library in connection with the written reply to the right hon. Member for Manchester, Ardwick, on July 1981, Official Report, columns 212–13.

Homeless Households

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many households were officially registered as homeless for each of the last 10 years to the latest available date.

I refer my hon. Friend to a series of documents "Homeless Households Reported by Local Authorities in England", copies of which are available in the Library. The series gives statistics from 1975 to the first half of 1980 collected by my Department and summary data for earlier years compiled by the DHSS. The basis on which the statistics are compiled has changed twice since 1970 and a consistent series for the last 10 years is not available.

Property Renting (Foreign Nationals)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish a list of those countries that will not allow a foreign national resident abroad to own property for renting; if he will establish an inquiry to review the renting of property in London by foreign nationals resident overseas or who operate through a company based overseas; and if he will make a statement.

Housing Act 1980 (Service Charges)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will examine the complaints arising from the operation of paragraph 15 in schedule 19 to the Housing Act 1980, and seek to repeal this provision.

If my hon. Friend has specific evidence of problems arising from the operation of this provision, I shall examine it carefully. The tenants whom it excludes from the protection of schedule 19 to the Housing Act 1980 are separately protected by having a fair rent registered under the Rent Act 1977. This cannot rise between rent registrations irrespective of increases in expenditure incurred by the landlord in the provision of services. In addition, section 59 of the Housing Act 1980 requires landlords applying for the registration of a fair rent which includes a service charge to produce evidence of expenditure on services, and this can be challenged by the tenant before the rent is registered.

Tenants (Harassment)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if, in view of the increasing number of cases of harassment, particularly in inner London, he will carry out a review of the Protection from Eviction Act 1977, with a view to giving better protection to tenants from all forms of harassment.

We are not at present convinced that a review of the Act is needed. If my hon. Friend has evidence of significant problems with the operation of the Act, I should be glad to consider it.

Wildlife And Countryside Act 1981

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when part III of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 will come into force, particularly the provisions of section 51.

I hope to bring into force by mid-1982 the provisions in part III which relate to definitive maps of public rights of way—including clause 51—and public path orders. The miscellaneous provisions in clauses 54 to 56 and 58 to 60 will come into force at the end of this month.

Construction Industry (Employment)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if, in the light of the fall in construction output in the first quarter of 1981 of 5 per cent. lower than in the previous quarter, and 15 per cent. below output in the same quarter of 1980, he will take urgent measures to increase employment prospects in the construction industry.

We have already taken a number of measures which will benefit the construction industry and those employed in it. We have, for example, set up urban development corporations in Docklands and on Merseyside, together with the 11 enterprise zones. We have streamlined planning procedures, improved the supply of land and made changes in the industry's tax regime. We have also introduced a major low-cost homeownership programme. We have brought in measures to help small firms and encourage the construction of small factories. We will continue—within the overriding need to restore the economy to a sound footing—to take every opportunity to help the industry. In this respect I am encouraged by the latest new orders figures: total new orders for the three months from June to August were 21 per cent. higher than in the same period in 1980 with private commercial orders up by a third. Housing starts were 15 per cent. up on the same period last year, with private sector starts up no less than 43 per cent. over the same period.

Sex Shops

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will amend present legislation on planning so that permission must be sought from the local authority for change of use of business premises into sex shops.

Planning permission is already normally required to change the use of non-retail business premises to use as a shop, but not generally to change the use of any one type of retail shop to another. My right hon. Friend does not think that extending planning controls over sex shops would provide an effective solution to the problem of sex shops because planning permission for them cannot be refused on moral grounds. However, the Government have expressed support in principle for a proposal by the Greater London Council for legislation to introduce licensing control over sex shops in London. The question of more general legislation is being kept under review by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Home Department.

Rent Assessment Panels

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he has concluded his review of rent assessment panel procedures.

I have today placed in the Library a copy of the report of the working, party on rent assessment panel procedures. My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment has decided to accept the working party's recommendations and the necessary regulations have been laid before the House. The working party's report examines rent assessment committee and rent tribunal procedures, and recommends measures to streamline them. The report follows a similar one by a working party on rent officer procedures that was published and implemented last year.

Industry

Aeronautical Co-Operation (Anglo-French Discussions)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether he will make a statement on the Anglo-French ministerial discussions on aeronautical cooperation which took place on 29 October.

Under arrangements made onthe occasion of the recent Anglo-French summit, I met M. Charles Fiterman, French Minister of Transport, on 29 October to discuss matters relating to Concorde, the proposed A 320 Airbus project, and engine co-operation. For the Concorde discussion I was accompanied by my hon. Friend the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Trade. The results of the meeting were set out in a joint communiqué, of which a copy has been placed in the Library of the House.

Steel Production

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many people have been employed annually by the British Steel Corporation during the last 20 years; and what has been the output of steel per annum.

The British Steel Corporation was set up in 1967. The information requested on employment levels and steel output since that year is contained in the corporation's annual reports and accounts, copies of which are available in the Library of the House.

Methyl Tertiarybutyl Ether

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether there are any plants in the United Kingdom or the European Community which manufacture or contemplate the manufacture of methyl tertiarybutyl ether.

I am advised that there are no plants in the United Kingdom which manufacture methyl tertiary butyl ether, but there are eight in the EEC in operation or under construction. In the United Kingdom outline planning permission is being sought for one plant.

Manufacturing Output

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what is his Department's estimate of the level at which output per man hour in manufacturing industry will have grown by the end of 1981.

No such estimates are available. However, recent developments are encouraging. Output per man hour in the second quarter of 1981 is currently estimated to have been 1 to 2 per cent. above its level in 1979, the previous peak year.

Mercury Consortium

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether the matters connected with a separate international access and interconnection with British Telecom for the Mercury consortium to operate the second telecommunications network have yet been resolved.

Not yet. The Department has initiated discussions which are now under way between British Telecom and Cable and Wireless on both international access for Mercury and interconnection with the public network.

Attorney-General

Mr B E Calvert

asked the Attorney-General if he will prosecute Mr. B. E. Calvert, of Sheffield, in connection with the non-payment of public funds given to him as liquidator for meeting insolvency claims.

This matter has not been referred to the Director of Public Prosecutions and it would not be right for me to comment further at this stage.

Trade

Military Equipment (Export Licences)

45.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade which countries were granted export licences for British military equipment in 1980; and what was the number and total value of contracts for British military equipment signed in 1980 in the case of each country for which a relevant export licence was granted in that year.

It has been the normal practice of successive Governments not to disclose the destinations of goods covered by export licences or the volume of defence sales to particular countries. Export licences are in fact issued to firms rather than countries. Many are not taken up in the same year as they are issued, or in the year when the relevant order was secured.

Credit Cards

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he is yet in a position to state his decision on the report by the Monopolies and Mergers Commission on the future of non-discrimination in the use of credit cards.

The Government has had widespread consultations and has now nearly concluded its consideration of the complex issues arising from this report. A decision will be announced as soon as possible:

Corporate Planning Management Ltd

asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether, following non-payment of sums provided to Mr. B. E. Calvert, the liquidator appointed in the case of Brinley Davies Bakery, he will use his powers to investigate Corporate Planning Management Ltd.; and if he will make a statement.

Officials of my Department were appointed on 27 October 1981 under section 109 of the Companies Act 1967 to make confidential inquiries into the books and papers of Corporate Management Planning Ltd.I am unable to make any further statement because of the restriction on disclosure of information obtained in such inquiries imposed by section 111 of the same Act.

Voluntary Liquidations (Liquidators)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if, in the light of the case of Mr. B. E. Calvert, appointed as liquidator in respect of Brinley Davies Bakery, he will seek powers to regulate the appointment and conduct of liquidators in cases of voluntary liquidation.

The selection and appointment of a liquidator in a case of voluntary liquidation are proper matters for the members and creditors of the company to decide. Whether such appointments should, in addition, be subject to regulation, and the conduct of the liquidator similarly controlled, are questions to which the Insolvency Law Review Committee, under the chairmanship of Sir Kenneth Cork, has given much attention. The final report of the committee is expected early next year. It will be published. In the light of such recommendations as the committee makes and the ensuing public debate the Government will be better able to determine what steps are necessary and desirable.

Employment

European Community (Job Retention And Creation)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) if he will give an estimate of the number of redundant workers that have been retained as a result of the payments from European Economic Community funds;(2) if he will give an estimate of the number of new jobs created in the United Kingdom since May 1979 as a result of European Economic Community funds.

I regret that the information is not available in the form requested. However, it is clear that European Community funds make a significant contribution to the level of training and employment in this country.The European social fund provides grants towards training and employment schemes. The European Coal and Steel Community provides reconversion loans for projects which will employ redundant coal and steel workers, and readaptation grants for redundancy payments and retraining schemes for former coal and steel workers. The European Investment Bank and the European regional development fund provide finance—in the form of loans and grants—for investment and development projects in the assisted areas.

The amount of assistance allocated to the United Kingdom since 1979 has been as follows:

£ million

1979

1980

1981

European Social Fund grants130135141
European Coal and Steel Community Reconversion loans657

*

European Coal and Steel Community Readaptation grants1524

*

European Investment Bank Loans7190

*

European Regional Development Fund grants163153†154
TOTAL385459

*

* Not yet available.

† January-October 1981.

Factory Inspectors

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many new factory inspectors have been recruited in each of the last six months.

I am advised by the Chairman of the Health and Safety Commission that no new factory inspectors were recruited in the last 'six months.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many factory inspectors are now employed; and how this compares with one, two and three years ago.

The number of factory inspectors employed by the Health and Safety Executive at 1 October 1981 was 915. The number of factory inspectors employed in each of the last three years was:

1 OctoberNumber
1978926
1979977
1980973

Industrial Training Boards

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many jobs will be lost if the industrial training boards are reduced.

My right hon. Friend will make a statement about industrial training boards shortly.

Voluntary Retirement

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the estimated number of vacancies that could be created for young people if a scheme of voluntary early retirement of those over the age of 60 years of age was introduced.

Retirement ages are agreed between employers and their employees and many male employees over the age of 60 years already choose to retire before the age of 65.

The employment effect, including the effect on youth employment, of any special scheme will depend on the detailed arrangements and the prevailing economic conditions.

Brinley Davies Bakery Ltd

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the steps he is taking to ensure payment of the sums owed to employees of Brinley Davies Bakery under the insolvency provisions of the Employment Protection (Consolidation) Act 1978, following the non-payment to them of sums he had provided to the liquidator, Mr. B. E. Calvert, for this purpose.

As my right hon. Friend indicated in his letter of 30 October to the right hon. Member, arrangements are being made for officials to make direct payments as soon as possible to those employees who have not been paid by the liquidator.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will name the 14 companies other than Brinley Davies Bakery, mentioned in his letter PO 3207/1981 to the right hon. Member for Manchester, Wythenshawe, in respect of which Mr. B. E. Calvert was appointed liquidator.

Of the 15 companies known by my Department to have had a member of Corporate Management Planning Ltd. appointed as liquidator or receiver, Mr. B. E. Calvert was the appointed officer for thirteen. In addition to Brinley Davies Bakery Ltd. of Glamorgan these were:

  • Cale Slingo Northern Jigs Ltd. (Leeds)
  • Fenpark Ltd. (Birkenhead)
  • Fred Lovett (Tailors) Ltd. (Sheffield)
  • Hamblegate Ltd. (Nottingham)
  • Higton Engineers Ltd. (Huddersfield)
  • Mason Brothers Haulage and Storage Ltd. (Rotherham)
  • Maynor Engineering Ltd. (South Wirral)
  • Swains Transport Ltd. (Manchester)
  • W. Teakle and Co. Ltd. (Wokingham)
  • Ternatest Ltd. (Worksop)
  • Vantel Ltd. (Barnsley)
  • Wrights Pram and Toys Fair Ltd. (York)

Prime Minister

Engagements

Q4.

asked the Prime Minister what are her official engagements for Tuesday 10 November.

Q6.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 10 November.

Q7.

asked the Prime Minister if she will give details of her official engagements for 10 November.

Q8.

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Q21.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements on Tuesday 10 November.

Q22.

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Q23.

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Q27.

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Q31.

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Q32.

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Q41.

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Q42.

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Q44.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 10 November.

Q45.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 10 November.

Q46.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 10 November.

Q47.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 10 November.

Q48.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 10 November.

Q51.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 10 November.

This morning I held meetings with ministerial colleagues and others. In addition to my duties in the House I shall be having further meetings later today, including one with President Burnham of Guyana. This evening I hope to have an audience of Her Majesty the Queen.

Washington

Q5.

I have no plans at present to visit Washington in the near future.

North-West Region

Q15.

asked the Prime Minister if she has any plans to visit the North-West region of England.

Mr Leo Long

Q20.

asked the Prime Minister if she will make a statement concerning the case of Mr. Leo Long.

I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave yesterday to the hon. Member for West Stirlingshire (Mr. Canavan).

Press Conference, Kuwait

Q25.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will place in the Library a copy of the transcript of her official press conference in Kuwait on 27 September regarding the Palestine Liberation Organisation and its association with terrorism.

Poorer Nations (Aid)

Q26.

asked the Prime Minister if she will initiate discussions with other developed nations, following the Cancun summit conference, with the aim of encouraging the giving of aid to, and the facilitating of trade with, the poorer nations according to their means and needs, respectively.

Discussions with the other developed countries about aid and trade take place constantly in the European Community and the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development.

Equal Opportunities

Q39.

asked the Prime Minister why discrimination on grounds of sex is omitted from the reference in the Gracious Speech to equal rights and opportunities.

The Government have consistently expressed their opposition to discrimination, whether on grounds of race or sex. The statement in the Gracious Speech reflects the Government's particular concern to encourage good race relations following the events of the past few months.

Confederation Of British Industry

Q43.

asked the Prime Minister when next she intends to meet the leaders of the Confederation of British Industry.

National Economic Development Council

Q49.

asked the Prime Minister when she plans to chair a meeting of the National Economic Development Council.

Factory Closures

Q50

asked the Prime Minister how many hon. Members she has seen on matters relating to factory closures since the end of the last session of Parliament; and how many jobs are expected to be lost in the closures discussed.

North Sea Oil (Revenue)

Q53

asked the Prime Minister if she will consider introducing measures to allocate North Sea Oil revenues to specific purposes.

I am not convinced it would he helpful to allocate North Sea oil revenues to specific purposes.

Security Services

Q.54

asked the Prime Minister (1) if she will make a statement about the person whose name has been given to her by the hon. Member for Hartlepool; and refer the issues raised by that case to the Security Commission;(2) what steps she has taken since November 1979 to ensure greater accountability to Her Majesty's Government of the security services.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave yesterday to the hon. Member for West Stirlingshire (Mr. Canavan).

Disabled Persons

asked the Prime Minister if, before considering changing the quota scheme for the employment of disabled people, the Government will conduct a special campaign to persuade Government Departments, local authorities, public corporations and nationalised industries to double their percentage of disabled employees; to what extent such action would help them to reach the 3 per cent. quota level; and if she will make a statement.

The Government consistently seek to ensure that all employers, including those in the public sector, are fully aware of their responsibilities as regard the employment of disabled people. There are no plans, however, for the sort of campaign proposed by the hon. Member. As only 1·9 per cent. of the working population are registered as disabled the chances of all public sector employers being able to meet a 3 per cent. quota are remote.I can assure the hon. Member that we will continue to leave employers in the public and private sector in no doubt of the need to promote the employment of all disabled people and to improve the quality of employment opportunities available to them.

Civil Servants

asked the Prime Minister, further to the reply to the hon. Member for Norfolk, North, of 29 October 1981, Official Report, column 396, how many extra or fewer persons are employed in each Government Department (a) since May 1979 and (b) during the last year for which figures are available.

Figures are not held centrally for May 1979. The following table shows the staff in post at 1 April 1979, 1 October 1980 and 1981 in each main Department or groups of departments and the changes (a) since 1 April 1979 and (b) during the 12 months ended 1 October 1981.

Staff in Posts

Full-time Equivalents

*

Changes

Department

1 April 1979

1 October 1980

1 October 1981

1 April 1979 to 1 October 1981

October 1980 to1 October 1981

+/-+/-
Agriculture, Fisheries and Food14,47413,97613,175-1,299-801
Chancellor of the Exchequer's Departments†126,869115,938111,769-15,100-4,169
Defence247,660235,226224,729-22,931-10,497
Education and Science‡3,7493,7073,601-148-106
Employment Group53,60550,91257,427+3,822+6,515
Energy1,2671,2221,155-112-67
Environment56,03949,36044,856-11,183-4,504
Foreign and Commonwealth12,07811,60511,308-770-297
Home Office33,49034,92434,817+1,327-107
Industry9,5149,1208,514-1,000-606
Lord Chancellor's Departments16,51816,37016,176-342-194
Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster's Departments13,01412,35211,468-1,546-884
Scottish Office11,11910,91110,621-498-290
Social Services100,929100,57699,832-1,097-744
Trade9,6219,4589,103-518-355
Transport13,90813,29113,318-590+27
Welsh Office2,6072,3882,280-327-108
Other Departments5,8145,7395,686-128-53
Totals (rounded)732,300697,100679,800-52,500-17,300

Notes:

*

Part-time staff are counted as half units.
† Excludes Paymaster General's Office and Treasury Solicitor. These staff are included under 'Other Departments'
‡ Includes the former Office of Arts and Libraries.

Public Expenditure

asked the Prime Minister whether it is the policy of Her Majesty's Government not to commit themselves to expenditure plans for 1982–83 in excess in real terms of the likely outcome for 1981–82.

We are still considering the plans for public expenditure in 1982–83. In future we shall be announcing our decisions in cash terms. The relationship in real terms between the planned total in that year and the likely outturn in 1981–82 will depend not only on the forecast of the latter but on the increase in costs in the public sector between the two years.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Bacon Factories

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many bacon curing factories there are in Great Britain; what were the corresponding figures for the last three years; and if he will make a statement.

At the end of October there were 155 plants in Great Britain curing bacon compared with 163 plants earlier this year and 169 in 1980, 184 in 1979 and 197 in 1978.The figures reflect the gradual reorganisation of the industry rather than any significant reduction in bacon production.

Defence

Royal Ordnance Factories

17.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what plans he has for the privatisation of Royal ordnance factories.

Consultations are continuing in accordance with the policy declared by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Defence on 25 June—[Vol. 7, c. 163–64.]

Hms "Endurance"

18.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will reconsider the withdrawal of HMS "Endurance" from its duties in the Falkland Islands and the Antarctic.

Terrorism

19.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many casualties have been received by military personnel which have been caused by terrorist attacks over the past 12 years.

Since 1969, 461 Servicemen have been killed and 3, 710 have been injured as a result of terrorist attacks in Northern Ireland. Information about casualties outside Northern Ireland for the same period is not readily available. However, in 1981, 8 soldiers have been injured, all in the bomb attack on the Irish Guards in London and the Commandant General Royal Marines was similarly attacked.

Ss 20 Missiles

20.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is his latest estimate of the number of SS 20 nuclear missiles possessed by the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and the other Warsaw Pact countries.

About 250 SS 20 nuclear missiles are currently deployed by the Soviet Union, approximately two-thirds of which are capable of striking targets in Western Europe.

Nuclear Weapons (Accidents)

22.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will provide full information about all accidents involving nuclear weapons.

I can only comment on United Kingdom nuclear weapons and those of the United States held in the United Kingdom. There has never been an accident to any such weapon involving the release of fissile material.

Fighter Aircraft

23.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what representations he has received from the British defence industry concerning the next development of fighter aircraft for use by the Royal Air Force.

As was stated in Cmnd. 8288, possible developments for future combat aircraft for the RAF include V/STOL and Tornado-related developments. We are in close touch with British industry on the future possibilities and are fully aware of its needs.

Laurence Scott Ltd

24.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he is satisfied with the progress made by Laurence Scott Ltd. in completing Ministry of Defence contracts for flame-proof electric motors.

Laurence Scott Ltd. has no contracts with the Ministry of Defence for flame-proof motors. It does, however, supply some equipment, mainly as a subcontractor to Vickers Shipbuilding and Engineering Ltd. and other prime contractors. I understand that there has been some delay in programmes arising from industrial action.

Gibraltar Dockyard

25.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he is now in a position to give details of future naval work load in the dockyard at Gibraltar.

I regret that I cannot add to the reply I gave to my hon. Friend on 22 July—[Vol. 9, c. 185–186.]

South African Defence Minister

26.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he has any plans to meet the Defence Minister of the Republic of South Africa.

Royal Dockyards (Repair And Refit Programme)

27.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the programme of repair and refit of HM dockyards.

One of the decisions flowing from our recent review of the defence programme was that we should reduce the cost of supporting the Fleet. The reduction in re fits and mid-life modernisations means that we will not require a dockyard organisation of the present size. We have therefore taken the sad but necessary decision to close the Royal dockyard at Chatham and to reduce the activities at Portsmouth. In future, therefore, Rosyth will continue to undertake the refits of SSBNs, patrol submarines, frigates and small ships, and Devonport the remainder of the dockyard programme.

Raf Establishments (Work Force)

28.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what representations he has had concerning the replacement of a local civilian work force by contract workers in RAF establishments.

During the normal process of consultation at local and departmental level on proposals to introduce contract cleaning at a number of RAF establishments, representations have been received from some of the local civilian work forces and their representatives. A number of hon. Members have written to me or my colleagues about contract cleaning, and some local authorities, cleaning companies and other interested parties have also made representations. These have covered such aspects as the employment implications of the proposals, alternative suggestions as to how the cleaning work might be organised to reduce costs, and requests to be invited to tender for contracts.

Nuclear Weapons (Siting)

29.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence when next he expects to meet his North Atlantic Treaty Organisation counterparts to discuss the siting of nuclear weapons in Europe.

31.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he proposes to meet Defence Ministers of other North Atlantic Treaty Organisation countries to discuss the deployment of theatre nuclear weapons in Europe.

This subject is normally considered by Alliance Defence Ministers at meetings of the NATO nuclear planning group. One such meeting has just taken place at Gleneagles on 20 and 21 October; the next meeting is expected to take place in the spring of 1982.

Nato Nuclear Planning Group

30.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation nuclear planning group meeting at Gleneagles on 20 October.

I refer the hon. Gentleman to the answer I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Brigg and Scunthorpe (Mr. Brown) on 28 October—[Vol. 10, c. 363].

Territorial Army (Expansion)

32.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what progress has been made in expanding the Territorial Army in accordance with his most recent proposals.

We are continuing to develop our expansion plan bearing in mind the operational requirement and the likely availability of resources.

Trident

33.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence when he expects to make a decision as to whether to order a fifth Trident submarine.

42.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on his decision to buy the Trident II missile from the United States of America, the D5, instead of the Trident I missile, C4; and what is the extra cost involved.

I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave earlier today to the hon. Members for Berwick-upon-Tweed (Mr. Beith), Swindon (Mr. Stoddart), Harlow (Mr. Newens) and Sheffield, Heeley (Mr. Hooley).

35.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the progress of the transfer from the United States of America of technology on submarines and weapons required for the United Kingdom Trident programme.

36.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he has initiated discussions with the United States Department of Defence or the Lockheed Corporation about the procurement of the D5 Trident submarine-launched ballistic missile system following the announcement by the United States Administration on the modernisation of American strategic nuclear deterrent forces.

In the light of the United States decision to enter full development of the Trident II (D5) missile system, we are studying the implications for our own Trident programme. In order that we may do so on a sound factual basis, we have had informal discussions with the United States Department of Defence to obtain technical information on the new system.

Falkland Islands (Naval Presence)

34.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will maintain a strong naval presence in the South Atlantic and particularly in the area of the Falkland Islands.

HMS "Endurance" is currently deploying to the South Atlantic. It is intended that Her Majesty's ships should continue to deploy to the region from time to time.

Cruise Missiles

37.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will reconsider the deployment of cruise missiles in the United Kingdom in the light of the degree of opposition in the United Kingdom, Belgium, France and West and East Germany; and whether, in this context, he has had any recent discussions with other North Atlantic Treaty Organisation Defence Ministers.

No. At the recent nuclear planning group meeting at Gleneagles, Alliance Ministers collectively reaffirmed the need for the cruise missile deployments in order to retain a credible NATO capability in this essential area of deterrent strategy against the background of the large scale deployments of new, mobile, longer range and more accurate Soviet theatre nuclear forces.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what recent representations he has received from supporters of nuclear disarmament regarding the deployment of cruise missiles within the United Kingdom.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave to the hon. Member for Cannock (Mr. Roberts) earlier today.

Naval Vessels

38.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he proposes any further reduction in naval vessels over and above those described in the July defence review.

Armed Forces (Lorry Supplies)

39.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether any parts of lorries supplied to the Armed Forces are made in Finland; and if he will make a statement.

Our lorries are essentially of commercial design and as a general rule we do not seek to interfere with manufacturers' sourcing policy for components. It therefore follows that we would have no knowledge of the provenance of such parts, the selection of which would be on the basis of the commercial judgment of the vehicle manufacturer with whom we directly deal.

Multilateral Disarmament

40.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what specific steps he has taken in the last six months to promote that aspect of his policy which is to seek multilateral disarmament; and if he will make a statement.

The Government remain committed to working for realistic and verifiable agreements on arms control and disarmament. In the last six months we have played a full part in the work of the United Nations General Assembly in New York and of the Forty-Nation Committee on Disarmament in Geneva. We have participated in the preparatory committee for the Second United Nations Special Session on Disarmament which is to be held in New York in 1982. We have also taken part in the Conference on Security and Co-operation in Europe held in Madrid, and have strongly supported French proposals for a mandate for a conference on disarmament in Europe. We have played a major role in consultations between the United States and the Soviet Union on limitations on long range theatre nuclear forces due to start at the end of the month. We have also welcomed the intention of the United States to continue with the SALT process in the near future. We have continued, with our allies, to seek agreement in the Vienna negotiations on mutual and balanced force reductions on Central Europe; on 23 July the West made important new proposals directed at resolving the continuing deadlock over the level of Warsaw Pact forces.

Nuclear Warfare (Europe)

41.

asked the secretary of State for Defence what account is taken in North Atlantic Treaty Organisation planning of the possibility of a limited nuclear war in Europe.

NATO's strategy of flexible response is intended to deter any form of aggression. This includes seeking to convince the Soviet Union that it could not hope to gain by initiating a limited nuclear war, nor could it hope to fight such a war from a sanctuary in its own territory. NATO itself needs no convincing that neither side could hope to win a nuclear war, whether or not it was limited in character.

Royal Navy (Manpower)

43.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will list the manpower figures for the Royal Navy for 1 April 1979, 1980 and 1981, respectively, and the target figures for 1982, 1983, 1984 and 1985.

The strength of the Royal Navy on 1 April 1979, 1 April 1980 and 1 April 1981 was as follows:

Number
1 April 197965,053
1 April 198064,364
1 April 198166,360
As stated in Cmnd. 8288, Royal Navy numbers will be reduced by between about 8,000 to 10,000 by 1986. Figures for the interim years are not yet available.

Nuclear Submarine Construction Programme (Steel)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will take action to certificate steel from British sources for use in the nuclear submarine construction programme.

Most of the steel used in British submarines is of British origin. However, for certain specialised uses, British steel is not available. The Minister of Defence currently has to buy extruded steel frames from abroad and we have also had to seek foreign forgings for a prototype reactor pressure vessel. We are currently considering, in consultation with British industry, whether similar British equipment could be developed which would be competitive in terms of price, quality and time scale.

Dockyards

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the staffing implications of the closure of Chatham dockyard and the rundown of the dockyard at Portsmouth in so far as those decisions affect Rosyth.

The Defence Review plans include provision for a build up in Rosyth dockyard. Most of this will be in the industrial work force and the direct effect on Rosyth of the closure of Chatham dockyard and the rundown of Portsmouth in this area is expected to be limited. There will be some opportunities for employees in certain trades to volunteer for vacancies at Rosyth, but there will no compulsory transfers.Non-industrial civil servants in the technical, supervisory, administrative and managerial grades have a liability to serve anywhere. Some staff in these categories will be transferred from Chatham or Portsmouth to fill vacancies at Rosyth which may arise as a result of the increased work load and retirement, including voluntary retirement and retirement of some officers who have reached the pensionable age of 60. There may also be transfers of staff elsewhere as part of a pattern of career development.

Household Brigade (Recruitment)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he is satisfied that there is no racial discrimination in the method of recruitment to the Household Brigade.

Service Personnel (Social Contact)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will permit soldiers serving in Ulster to accept invitations from and mix with the local population whom they seek to protect.

Whenever it is possible soldiers serving in Northern Ireland are allowed to accept invitations from and mix with the local population. However, soldiers on four-and-a-half month emergency tours have little or no time available for off-duty social activities; and, there are small areas of the Province where the level of terrorist threat is such as to preclude such social meetings.

Scotland

Prisoners

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many persons are serving sentences in prisons in Scotland at the last available count; and what was the figure five years ago.

The information requested is set out in the following table:

Average daily population of persons under sentence in penal establishments.
ScotlandNumber
September 19813,394
September 19763,983

Dental Therapists

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many dental therapists are employed in Scotland; and what evaluation has been made of the work of dental therapists' experience with children in promoting dental care in those inner city areas and elsewhere with an insufficient number of dental practitioners readily available.

Truancy

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what information he has on the increase of truancy in primary and secondary schools over the last three years.

Information is not available centrally on the incidence of truancy, which is primarily a matter for individual education authorities.

Employment (Statistics)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many new jobs he estimates to have been created in Scotland since May 1979; and how many have been lost during the same period.

Comprehensive information on new jobs created and on job losses is not available. The number of redundancies notified in Scotland in the period May 1979 to August 1981 was 124,312. Taking only new jobs associated with offers of selective financial assistance in the period May 1979 to October 1981 the total amounted to 32,718 new jobs.

Rates (Referendums)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was his estimate of the total cost of holding rate referenda in all the district, island and regional authorities in Scotland.

Rent And Rate Rebates

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many households in Scotland which are in receipt of (a) rent and (b) rate rebates there are (i) in total (ii) as a percentage of the total number of households.

The latest information available to me is that at 30 September 1980 the total number of recipients of rent rebates was 237,000 and that in respect of 1980–81 the total number of recipients of rate rebates was 416,000. If these figures are compared with the total number of households in Scotland of all tenures, they constitute 13 per cent. and 23 per cent. respectively of that total.

Port Facilities (Clyde)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what consideration he has given to port facilities on the Clyde and their interaction with industrial and commercial activity in the west of Scotland.

I recognise that in recent years there has been a decline in the volume of trade passing through the Clyde, and I welcome the decision of the port authority to join with the Forth, Dundee and Aberdeen authorities in discussing the situation with representatives of Scottish industry and commerce.

Farm Incomes

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in tabular form in the Official Report the number of 250kg store suckled calves at average Scottish market prices to buy the following basic hill farming inputs for the years 1973, 1977 and 1981: cattleman's annual wage, 10 tonnes hill cow cobs, 10 tonnes 15–15–21 fertiliser, 10 tonnes hay delivered, 100 tonnes lime, delivered and spread, 1,000 gallons of tractor diesel fuel, Ford 4000 tractor or equivalent and interest on a £10,000 overdraft.

The following information is as close to that requested as can readily be produced.

Number of calves required in
197319771981
Cattleman's annual wage15·521·119·3
10 tonnes cattle feed5·46·35·0
10 tonnes 15–15–21 fertiliser (net of subsidy in 1973)4·97·66·1
10 tomes hay producer's price2·23·11·9
100 tonnes lime (net of subsidy in 1973)2·55·34·6
1,000 gallons tractor diesel1·32·53·1
Ford 4000 series tractor, manufacturer's recommended price22·244·334·6
Interest on £10,000 overdraft13·68–46·2
Note: The comparisons take no account of increases in headage payments and make no allowance for changes in productivity or the quality of inputs.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in tabular form in the Official Report the numbers of 18 kg dressed carcase weight fat lambs at average producers' prices in Scotland including subsidy required to buy the following basic hill farming inputs for the years 1973, 1977 and 1981: a shepherd's annual wage, 10 tonnes hill ewe cobs, 10 tonnes 15–15–21 fertiliser, 10 tonnes hay delivered, 100 tonnes lime delivered and spread, 1,000 gallons tractor diesel fuel, Ford 4000 tractor or equivalent, interest on a £10,000 overdraft.

The following information is as close to that requested as can readily be produced for average prices including guarantee payments, but not including annual premiums.

Number of Lambs required in
197319771981
Shepherd's annual wage108·4126·6118·5
10 tonnes ewe and lamb feed44·748·631·4
10 tonnes 15–15–21 fertiliser (net of subsidy in 1973)35·247·038·9
10 tonnes hay, producer's price15·519·211·8
100 tonnes lime (net of subsidy in 1973)17·433·029·4
1,000 gallons tractor diesel9·315·719·7
Ford 4000 series tractor, manufacturer's recommended price158·0275·4219·2
Interest on £10,000 overdraft97·051·939·5
Note: The comparisons take no account of increases in headage payments and make no allowance for changes in productivity or the quality of inputs.

Social Services

Death Grant

44.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if, pursuant to his answer of 8 June 1981, he will now make a statement on the death grant.

My right hon. Friend expects to make a statement before the end of the year.

Health Education Council

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what discussions he is having with the Health Education Council concerning its funding in 1982.

The Department is currently considering its financial allocation to the Health Education Council for the financial year 1982–83.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services on how many' occasions Ministers of his Department have met officers of the Health Education Council since May 1979.

Ministers have met officers of the Health Education Council's management team at least four times since May 1979 and will be meeting officers and some council members again on 23 November.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the current size of the staff of the Health Education Council; and how this compares with each year since its inception.

The information is as follows:

YearNo. of Staff
1968*28
1969*28
197078
197178
197279
197381
197480
197576
197670
197771
197875
197978
198079
198180
* Including staff of the Central Council for Health Education.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what proportion of the budget of the Health Education Council is devoted to anti-smoking issues.

It varies from year to year. In the current financial year the proportion is likely to be about 21 per cent.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what consideration has been given in the current financial year to the funding of the Health Education Council as part of his overall departmental review of expenditure.

The Department's financial review for 1982–83 to 1984–85 has not yet been completed, but I can confirm that the funding of the Health Education Council forms part of that review.

Hospitals (Private Contractors)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will estimate what percentage of hospital catering and cleaning services are now handled by private contractors; and if he will make a statement.

In 1980–81 contracts with private companies accounted for the following percentages of authorities' expenditure in England on catering and domestic—cleaning services:

Catering-0·31 per cent.Domestic-Cleaning-2·54 per cent.
Health authorities have the option to put a wide range of services out to contract, and it is for individual authorities to decide in the light of local needs and circumstances which work should be put out to contract.

Dentists

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will instruct family practitioner committees to publicise lists of general dental practitioners compiled by local dental committees which gives the names of those dentists willing to accept new patients and to offer all necessary treatment under the National Health Service.

This matter is the subject of a recent report by a working party of the British Dental Association, who have asked local dental committees to consider the drawing up of such lists to assist family practitioner committees in advising patients who may have difficulty. I welcome this move by the profession to overcome such difficulties as may exist in some areas, but I do not consider that central instruction would be appropriate as difficulties are by no means general throughout the country.

Disabled Persons (Sick Pay)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if, under his proposals for sick pay, employers of disabled persons will be able to recover the total amount paid out by them in sick pay.

Yes. Under the proposals for statutory sick pay, employers will be able to recover the total amount paid out by way of statutory sick pay to any employee.

Pharmaceutical Sales

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what were the pharmaceutical sales to the National Health Service in 1980; and what were the pharmaceutical sales to the National Health Service as a percentage of the total National Health Service cost for the same period.

In England for the year ended 31 March 1980, National Health Service drug costs (see note (a)) were £176 million (see note (b)). These costs were 10·1 per cent. of the total National Health Service cost for the same period.

Notes:

(a) inclusive of expenditure incurred on Community Health Services.

(b) hospital drug costs, together with the cost of drugs and appliances supplied under pharmaceutical services provided by chemist and appliance contractors and dispensing doctors (but exclusive of any fees and allowances paid to them).

Boarding House Charter

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he has studied the report of the working party from the National Institute for Social Work published on 24 September 1981 on a boarding house charter; and if he intends to implement any of its proposals.

This is an interesting and helpful report and I am grateful to the working party and its chairman, Mr. David Hobman for all their work. Many of the recommendations are for action to be taken by the proprietors of the boarding houses themselves, in some cases with the assistance of local authority social services departments. There are however some recommendations specifically for the Department, and these are being taken into account in preparing a consultative document to be issued shortly on changes in the registration of residential homes, and in the current review of the guidance to Department of Health and Social Security staff about supplementary benefit arrangements for residents.

Life Expectancy

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the life expectancy of males and females in England and Wales for the period 1977 to 1981.

The most recently available figures—as follows—are based on the numbers of deaths occurring in England and Wales in the three-year period 1977–79. The expectations are obtained by assuming a hypothetical population to be subject to the 1977–79 age-specific death rates in each successive year of age.

Expectation of life at birth (England and Wales):
1977–79
Males70·2 years
Females76·4 years

National Health Service

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list in the Official Report the membership of the committee to assess alternative ways of funding the National Health Service; when he expects to publish a Green Paper on the committee's findings; what relationship it has discovered between the cost of administering the health services in the United Kingdom and overseas; who are the specialist consultant advisers with experience of the private health sector who are assisting the interdepartmental working party; what is the extent of their experience in this field; what overseas countries have been visited by the interdepartmental committee; and what has been the cost of these visits.

The working party consists of representatives of the Department, of the Scottish Home and Health Department, the Welsh Office, the Northern Ireland Department of Health and Social Services, the Treasury, Inland Revenue, the Central Policy Review Staff and two specialist consultant advisers. It is too early to say when or in what form any proposals emerging from their work may be published, but my right hon. Friend will be making a further statement in the New Year. The two specialist consultant advisers are Mr. Michael Lee, an economist and Mr. Hugh Elwell who has had many years' experience in health care outside the NHS. No visits to overseas countries have been made by the committee. Prior to its formation, two officials of the Department were awarded travelling fellowships under the auspices of an annual Nuffield and Leverhulme Trust award scheme for civil servants, in order to study aspects of health financing abroad. Countries visited were in one case the United States and Canada; in the other, France, West Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Austria, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland. Excluding the salaries of those involved, the cost of these visits was about £19,250, which will be shared between the Department and the Trust in the usual way.The working party is considering what if any options might improve health care in this country. When the Government have decided which of these should be studied further a more detailed assessment will be carried out, drawing on experience abroad. The working party is not carrying out any general study of the administrative costs of other health care systems.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish a table showing the relative cost of administration between the National Health Service in the United Kingdom and health services in other European Economic Community countries.

Because of differences in definition, methods of revenue collection and distribution, the organisation of health care and the availability of statistics, it is extremely difficult to obtain reasonably comparable figures of administrative costs for other European health services. Some rough estimates for the years around 1974 are contained in table 8 of the 1977 OECD publication, "Public Expenditure and Health", a copy of which is in the Library of the House; the Department is participating in an international exercise to update this publication.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many prescriptions were issued by the National Health Service in each of the last four years.

The information requested is set out below and relates to prescriptions dispensed in England.

million
1977295·7
1978307·1
1979304·6
1980303·3

asked the Secreary of State for Social Services if he will publish a table detailing the levels of prescriptions, dental, ophthalmic and other charges in the National Health Service in 1978 and currently using comparable prices.

The details are set out below. Charges for 1978 have been brought to current price levels by use of the retail price Index.

Charge at 1April 19781978 Charges reflated to current prices (RPI)Current Charges
Pharmaceutical
Prescription charge per item20p30p£1·00
Prepayment certificates (12 months)£3·50£5·26£15·00
Wigs stock£2·50£3·76£11·50
partial human hair£7·00£10·52£28·00
full bespoke£7·00£10·52£45·00
Fabric Supports surgical brassiere£2·00£3·00£7·00
abdominal or spinal£2·00£3·00£9·50
Dental
Routine treatment (maximum)£5·00£7·51£9·00
Crowns etc.(per tooth restored)£10·00£15·02£20·00
Set of Dentures (resin)£20·00£30·04£33·00
Maximum charge for course of treatment£30·00£45·07£60·00
Ophthalmic
Single vision spherical lens£2·90£4·36£2·90
up to + 6 dioptres£2·90£4·36£3·35
Plastic bifocal lens£6·35
Fused glass bifocal lens£5·50£8·26£6·85
Lens of any other description£6·15£9·24£8·30
524 NHS frame£1·44£2·16£2·05

Value Added Tax

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will set out in the Official Report his estimates of the amount of value added tax paid by each regional health authority in England for the current year and for the previous three years.

This information is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

Pharmaceutical Industry

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the net output per employee in the United Kingdom pharmaceutical industry in 1979.

The net output per employee in the United Kingdom pharmaceutical industry in 1979 was £17,776.

Tooth Decay Vaccine

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he is satisfied that the experimental use of a vaccine which may prevent tooth decay upon staff of the Wellcome Foundation Pharmaceutical Company involves no danger to the people concerned.

Industrial Injuries Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he has yet made any decisions on revising the industrial injuries scheme.

We have carefully considered the many helpful responses received to the consultative document issued last year. Our proposals for revising the industrial injuries scheme are being published today in a White Paper (Cmnd. 8402) entitled "Reform of the Industrial Injuries Scheme".