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Written Answers

Volume 20: debated on Tuesday 16 March 1982

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday 16 March 1982

Trade

Food Imports

asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he will publish in the Official Report a table

United Kingdom Imports of Sweet Fresh Oranges, 1980
(Value, £ thousand cif)
Imported duty-freeImported at preferential duty rateImported at full duty rate
Duty period:
April7077,2090
1 to 15 May9424,620446
16 May to 15 October2,6086,59319,772
1 January to 31 March, 16 October to 31 December95326,58321

Source:

Overseas Trade Statistics of the United Kingdom, SITC (R2) 057.11 (part).

Note:

(a) Values have been allocated on the basis of tariff rates currently in force.

(b) 0 signifies trade less than £500 in value.

Pre-Contract Delays

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what steps he intends to take in respect of the recommendations on pre-contract delays in civil engineering made to him by the Construction Industry Research Information Association.

British Airways (Manpower)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many (a) management, (b) engineers and (c) ramp workers are employed by British Airways.

It is not easy to define unambiguously these groups of staff. British Airways estimate that on a reasonable definition it employs 1,058 management staff, 11,305 engineering staff and 6,941 ramp staff.

Industrial Delegations (Subsidy)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade, in view of the disadvantages to British manufacturers likely to ensue from the proposal to end Government subsidy for delegates from industry attending meetings abroad for the setting of international standards, if he will reconsider this proposal.

The British Overseas Trade Board provides a travel fund for certain delegates to international standards meetings, but has decided to end the scheme in March 1983. That decision, which was announced by the then Secretary of State in April 1980, did not imply any doubt about the importance of international standards

showing imports of oranges in 1980 during each duty period from (a) dutiable sources at the full rate, (b) dutiable sources at the reduced rate, and (c) duty free sources.

The information is as follows:work, but, owing to other heavy claims more directly related to export promotion, BOTB funds were no longer available.However, in view of the representations made by industry and the importance my Department attaches to international standardisation, I am looking at other possibilities of providing some alternative financial help.

Estate Agents Act 1979

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what professional bodies have been consulted by the Office of Fair Trading in connection with the drafting of public guidance on the coming into force in May 1982 of the Estate Agents Act 1979; what was the period within which those professional bodies were asked to comment; whether the Office of Fair Trading intends, as a result of those comments, to make any changes in the guidance it proposes to publish; and if he will place in the Library a copy of the draft text and a note of any changes it is intended to make as a result of comments.

This is a matter for the Director General of Fair Trading, and I will ask him to write to my hon. Friend.

Polychlorinated Biphenyl

asked the Secretary of State for Trade how much polychlorinated biphenyl has been imported into the United Kingdom.

I regret that reliable information is not available. Polychlorinated biphenyls are not separately distinguished in the Overseas Trade Statistics of the United Kingdom, nor is there any means of identifying imports incorporated in electrical or other appliances.

Electrical Plugs And Fuses

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will take steps to prevent the importation of inferior quality electrical plugs and fuses into the United Kingdom; and to ensure that the British Standards specification is being maintained in the field of electrical plugs and fuses; and if he will make a statement.

I assume that the hon. Member is concerned lest imported plugs and fuses not meeting the requirements of British standards might be dangerous. Plugs and fuses, imported or domestically manufactured, must satisfy the provisions of the Electrical Equipment (Safety) Regulations 1975 and 1976. Although it can be assumed that products complying with relevant British standards would satisfy the regulations, compliance is not mandatory. However, new regulations are being drafted and I shall consider whether compliance with the standards should in future be required for plugs and fuses.

Market Entry Guarantee Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will introduce legislation to allow sales and marketing consultants to apply for help under the market entry guarantee scheme.

The market entry guarantee scheme, originally restricted to manufacturing industry, was extended to the service sector, including consultancy services, with effect from 24 June 1981.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many applications he has had for the market entry guarantee scheme.

The market entry guarantee scheme was introduced on 26 Janurary 1978. A total of 331 applications have been received resulting in 102 agreements. A further 15 companies are considering offers of agreement and 29 applications are under consideration.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he is satisfied with the operation of the market entry guarantee scheme.

Whilst always open to suggestions for improvements, I am broadly content with the operation of this scheme. Industry's interest has continued at a high level, particularly since the scope of the scheme was extended to cover the service sector last June.

House Of Commons

Members' Cafeteria

asked the Lord President of the Council which persons are entitled to eat in the Members' Cafeteria, whether accompanied by hon. Members of not.

The information is contained in "Refreshment Department Information and Regulations", which is available from the general manager of the Refreshment Department.

Principal Corridor (Strangers)

asked the Lord President of the Council under what circumstances strangers, other than employees of the House or accredited representatives of the press, are permitted to walk along the Principal Corridor of the House during sitting days.

Industry

Remote Sensing Satellites

56.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry, pursuant to the answer given to the hon. Member for Arundel on 16 February, Official Report, c. 108, what discussions are currently in progress for the further development of remote sensing satellites by the European Space Agency.

The member States of the European Space Agency are currently in the final stages of discussing the content and organisation of a remote sensing satellite programme, ERS-1, which will provide member States with oceanographic information to aid offshore activities, ship routing and the provision of marine forecasts.The programme is now open for member States to specify their levels of participation and it is expected that the definition phase will be started soon.

High Technology (Investment)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how much estimated investment in the high technology area has occurred in the United Kingdom since May 1979; and in which regions this investment has occurred.

Information relating to net annual investment in individual industries is included in the results of the annual census of production. Results for 1979, analysed by standard region, have been published in table 5 of each of around 160 separate industry reports. Estimates for the period since May 1979 are not available.

Financial Assistance (Statistics)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry by how much money, either in the form of grants and allowances or taxes forgone, the following areas have benefited from the actions of his Department in the most recent period for which figures are available: North Staffordshire, West Midlands, United Kingdom and the assisted areas; and if he will also express the overall figure as the amount per person in the population and per unemployed person in each of the specified areas.

The most important items of Government policy from which firms in North Staffordshire and the West Midlands benefit are capital allowances—the effect on tax receipts of this, or taxes forgone, for the whole country was £6·7 billion in 1980–81—and stock relief—£2·1 billion—through the tax system. The area also benefits from Department of Industry support for British industry which in 1980–81 amounted to about £2¾ billion. This includes payments to British Leyland with its strong presence in the West Midlands Science and Technology Act expenditure, support for British Steel, small firms and other heads, including regional policy.The following paragraph quotes the expenditure on schemes, where this is readily available for the geographical areas specified in the question. All except section 8 schemes are limited to assisted areas. The items excluded from the figures shown, but mentioned in paragraph 1, are more significant in North Staffordshire and the West Midlands than the items for which figures in the form requested are readily available.Expenditure under section 8 of the Industry Act 1972 amounted to £0·5 million in North Staffordshire and £10 million in the West Midlands in 1980–81. Section 8 expenditure totalled £32 million in the assisted areas and £72 million in Great Britain in that year. Expenditure on regional selective assistance was negligible in the West Midlands in that year, as only Oswestry qualified as an assisted area. Gross expenditure in 1980–81 on the main items of regional preferential assistance—regional development grants, regional selective assistance and land and factory building—was £703 million in Great Britain, all of this of course arising in the assisted areas. Not all of this expenditure is the responsibility of the Department of Industry. Given the lack of regional information on many important items of assistance to British industry, it would not be meaningful to compare per capita expenditure figures for the items mentioned in this paragraph.This answer is limited to Great Britain rather than the United Kingdom. Assistance to industry in Northern Ireland is administered by the Northern Ireland Department of Commerce.

Wales

Psychiatric Illness (Young Persons)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if, in view of the recommendations of the Welsh National Association for Mental Health regarding the

Number
Traumatic and Orthopaedic specialtyClwydDyfedGwentGwyneddMid GlamorganPowysSouth GlamorganWest Glamorgan
In-patients
Urgent cases waiting more than one month42372153592663
Non-urgent cases waiting more than twelve months18231913248656100283
Total cases7858267952201,336993578
Out-patients
Cases waiting more than three months563331,553962,3149552,013
Total cases5829312,2445313,740351,7742,859

Varicose Veins (Operations)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will give the average waiting time for each regional hospital board in Wales for an operation for varicose veins; what is the waiting time for National Health Service patients and private patients under the

increased incidence of psychiatric illness amongst the young, he will take steps to increase the number of family practitioners in areas of increasing unemployment.

The admission of additional family practitioners to existing medical lists in any area is a matter for the medical practices committee, but studies to date have not demonstrated a direct relationship between unemployment levels and the incidence of psychiatric illness.

Bypasses

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many local authority bypasses were started in 1979–80, 1980–81 and 1981–82; and how many are expected to start in 1982–83.

The following numbers of schemes described as bypasses or relief roads in local authorities transport policies and programmes have been or are due to be started:

number
1979–803
1980–814
1981–826
1982–833

Orthopaedic Patients

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is the total number of patients awaiting treatment in the orthopaedic specialty in each of the eight area health authorities in Wales; and if he will specify the number waiting for more than (a) one month, (b) three months, (c) six months and (d) 12 months.

The latest available information is given in the following table. It relates to the position on 30 September 1981 and is not in precisely the form requested.National Health Service; what is his best estimate of the cost of treatment prior to operation for varicose veins in each of the areas of Wales; and if he will make a statement.

This information is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

Meat (Quality)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will take steps to introduce methods to test the quality of meat which is now being made available to the public through shops, restaurants and school canteens where instances of debased meat, containing excessive water, cereal, rind and bone protein, are on the increase; and whether he envisages an expansion of inspector services to make enforcement of the law more effective.

Proposals for revised meat product regulations were issued for comment in July and September 1981. Consultations are proceeding with a view to bringing revised regulations before Parliament by the Summer Recess. Enforcement of food quality regulations, the analysis of foodstuffs and the employment of inspectors are the responsibility of local authorities.

Daniel Report

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will update tables 12 and 14 of the Daniel report of 1975 to take account of the effects of the equalisation of water charges.

It is not possible to update these tables, because the methods of charging for measured supplies of water have changed considerably since the tables were published. All authorities now impose a two-part tariff—a standing charge according to the size of the meter which is related to the fixed costs of providing the supply—and a charge per thousand gallons consumed. Because of the many possible variations of the standing charge, it is not practicable to calculate a meaningful average charge.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Vietnam And Kampuchea

asked the Lord Privy Seal how much aid has been given to Vietnam and Kampuchea since January 1981; and whether the distribution of food which is provided through the aid programme is dependent on any political considerations.

No United Kingdom aid has been given to Vietnam since January 1981. In March 1981 a grant of £300,000 was made to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees to provide relief to Cambodian refugees in Thailand or on the Thai-Cambodian border and, subject to parliamentary approval, a further £125,000 will be provided through the International Committee of the Red Cross for the same purpose. Also subject to parliamentary approval, the Government have pledged £250,000 of food aid in support of these UNHCR and ICRC programmes. This will be distributed by the world food programme. Political considerations are taken into account in the allocation of all aid, including food aid.

National Finance

Building Societies

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will abolish the composite tax arrangements with building societies and place them on an equal footing with other financial institutions; and whether he will make a statement.

No. The present arrangements result in the collection of a large amount of tax at small administrative cost.

Personal Information

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer in what circumstances confidential personal information held by his Department is supplied to other Departments of State.

Double Taxation (Brazil And Argentina)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when he considers that the negotiations on the bilateral double taxation agreements with Brazil and Argentina will be concluded.

We broke off negotiations with Brazil early in 1979 because the Brazilian terms were unacceptable. Recently the Brazilians indicated that they might be prepared to modify these terms, and the Inland Revenue has agreed to meet a Brazilian delegation at the end of April to examine the scope for reopening talks.A comprehensive double taxation convention with Argentina was initialled at official level in December 1980. Since then we have been pressing Argentina to enter into arrangements for signature of the convention.

Mortgage Tax Relief

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will place in the Library a copy of the discussion document recently sent to building societies about administration details of implementation of the proposed change in mortgage tax relief law.

Excise Duties

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will list all changes in rates made since May 1979 in (a) petrol excise duty, (b) diesel excise duty, (c) vehicle excise duty for private cars and for a medium goods vehicle and a heavy goods vehicle, (d) car tax and (e) value added tax on vehicle and fuel sales; and what was the revenue for each category of tax with the percentage increase in the period, in nominal and in real terms.

[pursuant to his reply, 15 March 1982, c. 18]: The information is as follows:

Tab1e A
Changes in rates of Tax
June 1979March 1980March 1981Ju1y 1981March 1982
(a) Petrol excise duty (per litre)+1·5p+1·9p+3·82p+1·72p
(b) Derv excise duty (per litre)+1·5p+0·8p+3·82p-1·91p+1·34p
(c) Vehicle excise duty (per Vehicle per annum)
Private Vehicle+£10+£10+£10
Medium goods Vehicle 5½–5¾ tons unladen weight+£80+£71+£70
Heavy goods Vehicle 10½–10¾ tons unladen weight+£274+£177+£343
(d) Car tax
(e) Value added tax
Motor Vehicles8 per cent. to 13 percent.
Petrol12½ per cent. to 15 percent.
Derv8 per cent. to 15 per cent.
Table B
net receipts in 1978–79 and estimates for 1982–83
Change between 1978–79 and 1982–83
1978–791982–83*NominalReal terms†
(£ million)(£ million)(per cent.)(per cent.)
(a) Petrol excise duty1,6543,950+140+44
(b) Derv excise duty559925+61-0·5
(c) Vehicle excise duty1,1131,854+67+0·2
(d) Car tax381600+57-5·3
(e) Value added tax on vehicle and road fuel sales*6851,975+188+73
* Estimated.
† Adjusted by the GDP deflator at market prices.

Public Sector Borrowing Requirement

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how much of the estimated public sector borrowing requirement in 1981–82 he expects will have been funded by borrowing from the banks and increase of coins and notes.

[pursuant to his reply, 15 March 1982, c. 19]: The public sector borrowing requirement for 1981–82 is estimated to be around £10½ billion in the Financial Statement and Budget Report. The final outturn will not be known until May 1982. Analyses of the financing of the PSBR by economic sector and type of asset are published in Financial Statistics—table 2.6. The June 1982 edition will include figures for 1981–82 as a whole. We expect that over the year the PSBR will have been fully funded by sales of gilt-edged stock and national savings to the non-bank private sector. The increase in coins and notes in circulation is likely to be less than £½ billion. The contribution of the monetary sector, which includes banks and licenced deposit takers, to financing the PSBR is unlikely to be significant and could even be negative. Within the latter amount will be included the increase in holdings of notes and coin by the monetary sector.

Gaming Machines

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will place in the Library a report on the review of gaining machine taxation referred to in the Official Report, 9 March, column 744.

[pursuant to his reply, 15 March 1982, c. 19]: No. In the course of the review many representations were made, both written and oral, to Ministers and to the Commissioners of Customs and Excise. Some reported the results of confidential surveys and others contained comments which were clearly not intended for publication. It would give a misleading impression of the review to publish a report based only on the non-confidential material.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what consultations he proposes to hold before 1 October 1982 on the implementation of the new gaming machine licence duties.

[pursuant to his reply, 15 March 1982, c. 19]: My right hon. and learned Friend's Budget proposals for gaming machine taxation have been made after wide consultation. I do not consider further consultation to be necessary. It is, however, open to any interested party to make representations or inquiries, and there will be opportunity for further discussion when the relevant provisions of the Finance Bill are considered.

Home Department

Stansted Hijacking (Policing Costs)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, in view of the particular financial difficulties of the Essex county council, he will consider increasing the 50 per cent. police grant in respect of the hijack emergency operation at Stansted Airport on 27 and 28 February.

No. The level of police grant is approved by Parliament and cannot be varied for individual police operations.

Television (Wales)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, in view of the defective functioning of the BBC television booster at Barber's Hill, Llangollen, Clwyd, which results in poor reception of BBC Wales programmes in the Llangollen area, he will take steps with a view to remedying the situation.

I understand from the BBC that a few temporary faults have recently affected transmissions from the Llangollen relay station at Barber's Hill, but these have been remedied and the corporation is unaware of any other problems regarding the reception of BBC Wales from that relay. If my hon. Friend is aware of any such problem in Llangollen and could let me have further details I shall arrange for the matter to be investigated more fully.

Crime Prevention

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, following the statistics on crime in London published on 10 March, he proposes to take any further steps to deal with the growth of violent crime, including muggings, on the streets of London and elsewhere.

The Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis and other chief officers have constantly under review their operational response to crime, including violent street crime. My officials, in consultation with Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary, are studying tactics in different force areas in order to disseminate knowledge of the most effective tactics to deal with street crime.

Personal Information

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department in what circumstances confidential personal information held by his Department is supplied to other Departments of State.

The Home Office supplies confidential personal information to other Government Departments in a variety of circumstances. These include the provision of information relating to the treatement of convicted offenders, their whereabouts and their transfer from one part of the United Kingdom to another; information relating to applications to enter or remain in this country or to take employment here; and information required for statistical and research purposes. Personnel records are also passed to other Departments, principally in connection with the transfer of staff to them.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Artificial Sweeteners

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what recommendations have been made to him concerning which artificial sweeteners should be allowed in foodstuffs (a) for adults and (b) for children; and if he will make a statement.

A report by the Food Additives and Contaminants Committee on sweeteners in food was published on 10 March and copies have been placed in the Library of the House. Regulations made under the Food and Drug Acts list those substances which may be used as sweeteners and the committee recommend that five further sweeteners should be permitted. The committee also recommend that sweeteners other than sugars should not be permitted in foods manufactured specifically for babies and young children. I have invited comments on the report from all interests concerned, before taking a decision on new regulations.

Northern Ireland

Varicose Veins (Operations)

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will give the average waiting time for each regional hospital board in Northern Ireland for an operation for varicose veins; what is the waiting time for National Health Service patients and private patients under the National Health Service; what is his best estimate of the cost of treatment prior to operation for varicose veins in each of the areas of Northern Ireland; and if he will make a statement.

The information requested on average waiting times for operations for varicose veins is not available, nor is it possible to estimate the cost of treatment of patients prior to operation.

Personal Information

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland in what circumstances confidential personal information held by his Department is supplied to other Departments of State.

Prime Minister

Engagements

Q4.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 16 March.

Q7.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 16 March.

Q9.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 16 March.

Q11.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 16 March.

Q12.

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Q13.

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Q14.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 16 March.

Q15.

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Q16.

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Q17.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 16 March.

Q18.

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Q19.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 16 March.

Q20.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 16 March.

Q21.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 16 March.

Q24.

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Q25.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 16 March.

Q26.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for 16 March.

Q27.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 16 March.

Q28.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 16 March.

Q29.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 16 March.

Q30.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 16 March.

Q31.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 16 March.

Q32.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 16 March.

Q34.

asked the Prime Minister what are her official engagements for 16 March.

Q35.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 16 March.

Q36.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 16 March.

Q37.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 16 March.

Q39.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 16 March.

Q40.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 16 March.

Q41.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 16 March.

Q45.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 16 March.

Q46.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 16 March.

Q47.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 16 March.

Q49.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 16 March.

Q50.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 16 March.

Q51.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 16 March.

Q52.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 16 March.

Q55.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 16 March.

Q56.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 16 March.

Q58.

asked the Prime Minister if she list her official engagements for Tuesday 16 March.

Q59.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 16 March.

Q61.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 16 March.

Q62.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for 16 March.

Q63.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 16 March.

Q64.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 16 March.

Q65.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 16 March.

Q66.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 16 March.

This morning I had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others, including one with the Presidents of the Council of Ministers and the Commission of the European Community. Later I was present at the arrival in London of His Majesty the Sultan of Oman. In addition to my duties in the House, I shall be having further meetings later today. This evening I shall attend a State banquet given by Her Majesty the Queen in honour of the Sultan of Oman.

Child Benefit

Q6.

asked the Prime Minister if she will estimate the percentage and weekly money reduction in the real value of child benefit payable in November 1982 compared with the combined value of child tax allowance and family allowance in 1955 for a second child aged 12 years in a family paying the standard rate of tax.

The comparison which my hon. Friend is seeking to draw is not an apt one because although in 1955 family allowance was not paid for the first child in a family its payment for second and subsequent children undoubtedly contributed to the support provided for the family as a whole. It would therefore be reasonable to apportion the family allowance paid to a two-child family in 1955 in part to the support of the 12-year-old second child. On this basis the 1955 child support, at November 1982 prices assuming a 9 per cent. increase in the retail price index in the 12 months up to that date, would be £7·48, compared with child benefit of £5·85 this November. This represents a reduction of £1·63 a week or 21·79 per cent. For a family which in 1955 had insufficient income to benefit from the child tax allowance a comparable calculation shows an increase in child support of £8·55 a week or 271·4 per cent.

Q44.

asked the Prime Minister by how much she estimates that child benefit will have declined in real value between April 1979 and April 1983.

It is not possible to estimate the real value of child benefit at April 1983 because there is no forecast of inflation between November 1982, when the rate of child benefit will be increased, and April 1983.

Disarmament

Q8.

asked the Prime Minister if she will seek to address the United Nations Special Session on Disarmament in June.

The Pope

Q10.

asked the Prime Minister whether any arrangements have been made for His Holiness the Pope to meet Her Majesty's Government during his forthcoming visit.

I shall be meeting the Pope during the course of his visit. Details as to when and where our meeting will take place have yet to be finalised.

Devolution (Scotland)

Q22.

asked the Prime Minister if she has received any representations on the introduction of a measure of Scottish devolution.

Since the repeal of the Scotland Act 1978 in June 1979, I have received a small number of such representations from hon. Members, other individuals and organisations.

Taoiseach

Q33.

asked the Prime Minister when she next proposes to hold talks with the Prime Minister of the Republic of Ireland.

I expect to meet the Taoiseach later this month at the next Session of the European Council. No date for another meeting has yet been fixed.

Science And Technology

Q38.

asked the Prime Minister when she expects to give the Government's response to the House of Lords Select Committee on Science and Technology report published on 9 December 1981.

Minister For Consumer Affairs

Q42.

asked the Prime Minister when the decision on ministerial arrangements for consumer affairs, referred to in her reply to the right hon. Member for Stoke on Trent, South (Mr. Ashley) on 25 February, Official Report, column 444, will be taken.

Civil Servants

Q43.

asked the Prime Minister whether she is satisfied with the decline in the numbers of civil servants since 1979.

The number of civil servants is down by 57,000 since we took office. This is over halfway towards the 102,000 savings by 1984 which I announced in May 1980. There is, of course, still some way to go, but I am satisfied that we are on target for a total of 630,000 by April 1984. The Civil Service is now more streamlined and efficient than it was in 1979 and we are continuing to pursue policies which enable civil servants to give the best value to the taxpayer.

Fuel Costs

Q48.

asked the Prime Minister which Government Department is responsible for collecting and collating information relating to the fuel costs of retirement pensioners and families on low incomes.

The Department of Employment has overall responsibility for the family expenditure survey which includes information of this kind. In addition, the Department of Health and Social Security has carried out similar ad hoc surveys relating solely to low income households.

Budget Response

Q53.

asked the Prime Minister if she is satisfied with the response of industry to the recent Budget.

I welcome industry's generally favourable reaction to the Budget, which, I believe, creates the necessary sound financial framework within which industry can consolidate its recent advance.

Utah Valley (Cancer Compensation)

Q54.

asked the Prime Minister if she will seek a meeting with President Reagan to discuss with him a British contribution of compensation to those who have suffered from cancer arising from British nuclear tests in the Utah Valley, United States of America.

No British atmospheric nuclear tests have ever been carried out in the Utah Valley area. Since the early 1960s underground tests have been carried out by the United States on our behalf at the nearby Nevada test site, but these have not resulted in the release of any radioactive material into the atmosphere. The question of compensation by the British Government therefore does not arise.

Brussels

Q57.

asked the Prime Minister when she next intends to pay an official visit to Brussels to discuss Common Market issues.

Cable And Satellite Television

Q60.

asked the Prime Minister if she will make a statement on the policy of Her Majesty's Government on the future of regulation of cable television and satellite television transmissions.

My right hon. Friend the Home Secretary told the House on 4 March of our decision to go ahead with direct broadcasting by satellite. This is a clear indication of our intention to enable British industry to take full advantage of the opportunities which new technology offers. In his statement—[Vol. 19, c. 414–420]—my right hon. Friend promised a further announcement shortly on the future role of cable television.

Computers

asked the Prime Minister how many computers are currently in use in the United Kingdom in all Government Departments; and if she will split this figure between the main areas, namely, the National Health Service, local government, central Government, the nationalised industries, and so on.

There are currently more than 650 large and medium-sized computers in use in the United Kingdom in central Government Departments for administrative and scientific purposes. Details of these were published with the May 1981 edition of "Management Services in Government", a copy of which is available in the House of Commons Library. In addition, over 700 micro-computers are in use in central Government Departments. Figures for the number of computers in the National Health Service, local government and nationalised industries are not available centrally, and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

Public Assets (Sales)

asked the Prime Minister if she will ensure that in respect of sales of taxpayers' assets, such as Amersham International, sales will be by tender and not at fixed prices.

We shall continue to consider carefully the appropriate method of sale in relation to each asset sale. Tender will continue to be amongst the options considered.

Education And Science

Youth And Community Service

4.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will issue guidelines to education authorities to avoid disproportionate reductions in the youth and community service.

The Government believe that expenditure on the youth service should be maintained, and have taken steps to help local authorities do so. However, it is for each authority to decide how to allocate its resources.

Teachers (Imprisonment)

5.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what criteria he uses when deciding whether a teacher who has served a term of imprisonment should be precluded from taking up a teaching post after leaving prison; on how many instances his Department has had to adjudicate during the past 10 years; and, of these, how many were banned from teaching and how many were allowed to continue their careers as teachers.

My right hon. Friend is concerned in these cases with the welfare and protection of children and the need to maintain high standards of conduct in the teaching profession. Over the past 10 years, 198 cases involved teachers serving prison sentences. A breakdown in the form requested is not available for that period, but in the year ended 31 March 1981, of 32 such cases, 20 resulted in total and two in partial exclusion.

Universities And Polytechnics

18.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will estimate the reduction in the number of student places in polytechnics arising from his education policy; and if he plans to reverse this trend in the future.

Far from reducing, the number of students on advanced courses in polytechnics in England is estimated to have increased by 13,000 or 7 per cent. this year. The plans in the expenditure White Paper published on 9 March—Cmnd. 8494—do, however, assume that there will be reductions in student admissions in advanced further education in subsequent years.

25.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if, further to his answer of 16 February, he will take steps to obtain estimates from universities and polytechnics of the numbers of university teachers and non-academic staff who will be made redundant in 1982.

Universities and the public sector institutions are still in the process of deciding whether staff will have to be made redundant and when redundancies will occur.

School Discipline

19.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will issue guidelines to local authorities to promote discipline in classrooms.

I strongly support local education authorities and schools in their efforts to maintain high standards of discipline. I have no evidence, however, that authorities are looking to me for guidance in this matter.

44.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will seek to include under the provisions relating to information as to schools and admission arrangements contained in the Education Act 1980, the means of enforcing discipline in that school.

There is already provision in the Education (Schools Information) Regulations 1981 for parents to be given information about disciplinary arrangements in individual schools.

Sex Education

20.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he has received any representations on the inclusion of provision for sex education in the core curriculum.

We have received a few representations on this subject, expressing a wide range of views.

Church Schools

21.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will take steps to encourage an increase, where appropriate, in the number of voluntary Church schools.

The responsibility for planning primary and secondary education in their area rests with local education authorities in consultation with voluntary bodies providing or wishing to provide schools. If a voluntary body wishes to establish a voluntary school, it is for the promoters to publish proposals, after consultation with the local education authority, under section 13 of the Education Act 1980. My right hon. Friend then decides each proposal carefully on its merits.

Student Grants

22.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what representations he has received concerning the proposal to keep the minimum award for student grants at the present cash level.

Since the main rates of student grants for the academic year 1982–83 were announced on 2 December 1981, my right hon. Friend is receiving a large number of letters on all aspects of student awards, only a very small proportion of which mention the proposal to keep the minimum award at its present cash level.

Inner City Schools

23.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will undertake a special study of the problems of inner city schools.

In recent years the Department has sponsored a number of studies which bear on the problems of inner city schools, and a further wide-ranging study is unlikely to throw up new solutions. Not all inner city schools are problem schools. Despite the particular difficulties which they may face, some are vital and stimulating places. I will maintain a close interest in this issue.

Deaf And Blind Children

24.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he proposes to make any additional provisions for the teaching of deaf and blind children.

The numbers of blind or deaf children for whom local education authorities must make provision are falling, and nationally, available places exceed demand. The situation is being kept under review.

Schools (Proficiency Tests)

26.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will seek to introduce a system of proficiency tests and standards in schools in a range of subjects at below the level covered by existing examinations.

My right hon. Friend is considering what action might usefully be taken to provide all school leavers with a written record of their achievements whether or not these include graded results in public examinations. I believe it would be helpful if such records offered an indication of proficiency in skills such as numeracy and literacy and the ability to communicate effectively.

Higher Education

27.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will estimate the number of eligible students who will fail to gain (a) university and (b) higher education places in the coming year compared to 1981.

32.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what shortfall he now envisages between places available in institutions of higher education and students qualified to benefit from such educational opportunities over the next three years in the light of the latest statistics now available.

Not every qualified young person seeks a place in higher education. Reliable figures for those obtaining places in 1981 are not yet available although early indications suggest that a broadly similar proportion of qualified students obtained places in higher education in 1981 compared with 1980. There are many factors which have to be taken into account when estimating likely future entrants to higher education. Variation in any of these factors can give rise to significant differences in the final estimate. If the proportion of mature entrants to higher education remains constant and if the proportion of the 18 to 20 age group in Great Britain obtaining two GCE A-levels or equivalent qualifications increases in a way that is broadly consistent with recent increases in those continuing in post-16 education, then it is estimated that, to admit the same proportion of those so qualified as was admitted in 1980–81, the number of additional full-time and sandwich home students to higher education institutions who would have to be admitted compared with the student number projections underlying the "Government's Expenditure Plans 1982–83 to 1984–85"—Cmnd. 8494—would be of the order of

Number
1982–8315,000
1983–8421,000
1984–8525,000

34.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he is satisfied with the present arrangements for funding higher education.

No. Successive Governments have been dissatisfied with the arrangements for financing local authority higher education. The advanced further education pool was cash limited by the Education Act 1980. A consultative document on the policy, funding and management of higher education outside the universities was published in July 1981. My right hon. Friend has now established the national advisory body for local authority higher education to enable the distribution of the pool to be informed by an element of academic judgment.In the university field, my right hon. Friend recently told the Education, Science and Arts Select Committee that he was considering whether it would be appropriate for Ministers to give clearer guidance to the University Grants Committee than hitherto on national priorities.

37.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he proposes to modify or redefine the "Robbins" principle for availability of higher education.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply my right hon. Friend gave to the hon. Member for Lewisham, West (Mr. Price) on 1 December 1981.—[Vol. 14, c. 103.]

Education Expenditure

28.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what percentage of the United Kingdom's gross national product is spent on education compared with other EEC countries.

The latest year for which the information is available is 1978–79 and is as follows:

CountryTotal educational expenditure as percentage of Gross National Produce
With population of over 50 million
United Kingdom5·4
France5·3
Germany F.R.4·7
Italy4·6
With population of under 15 million
Netherland8·5
Denmark6·9
Ireland6·3
Luxembourg6·1
Belgium6·0

50.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what recent representations he has received about the current level of expenditure on education in England and Wales; and if he will make a statement.

Since 1 January 1982 I have personally met and discussed the current level of expenditure on education in England and Wales that falls within my responsibilities with representatives of the following:

  • 21 January—Catholic Teachers' Federation
  • 18 February—Secondary Heads Association
  • 25 February—Assistant Masters and Mistresses Association
  • 25 February—Caribbean Teachers' Association.

Corporal Punishment

29.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he has any proposals for changing the law in respect of the use of corporal punishment in schools in England.

A recent judgment of the European Court of Human Rights has raised the question of ensuring respect for parental convictions against the use of corporal punishment in schools. The Government are considering the judgment and its implications.

School Standards

30.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he is now able to publish Her Majesty's inspectors' report on standards in schools.

Engineering Undergraduates

31.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many engineering undergraduates there are expected to be in British universities by 1983; and how this compares to the number there were in 1978.

In 1978–79 there were 28,270 undergraduate and 3,204 postgraduate full-time and sandwich engineering and technology home and European Community students in universities in Great Britain. I understand from the UGC that it envisages that there will be of the order of 6 per cent. more such students in 1983–84. The percentage increase for engineering undergraduate students only is likely to be of the same order.

Universities

33.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will make a statement on the response from universities to his letter to the general secretary of the Association of University Teachers, published in the Official Report on 15 February, column 56.

My right hon. Friend has received little response from universities to his reply to the General Secretary of the Association of University Teachers. In responsse to a further letter from the general secretary he has agreed to meet a deputation from the association.

18-Year-Olds

35.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the percentage of 18-year-olds currently participating in higher education in England and Wales; and how this figure compares with other member countries of the EEC.

The 18-year-olds participating in higher education in England and Wales in the academic year 1980–81 were 7·5 per cent. of the total population at this age. Strictly comparable figures for other member countries of the European Community are not yet available for that year.However, the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development has published statistics for certain countries of the European Community which show the 18-year-olds participating in higher education in 1975 or 1976 expressed as a percentage of the total population at this age. These participation rates are given in column 1 in the following table.Comparisons between countries of higher education participation rates at a particular age are influenced by the precise structure of higher education in each country, in particular by the age at which students normally enter higher education and the length of course. In some EC countries students enter higher education later than in the United Kingdom and take longer to qualify.A more meaningful comparison is to show all new entrants to higher education as a percentage of the total

1976–77 unless otherwise stated
1.2.3.
18-year-old participants as percentage of all 18-year-oldsAge group encompassing 80 per cent, of new entrants to higher educationAll new entrants as percentage of typical year group calculated from column 2
Belgium*n.a.18–2033·9
France10·918–2027·7
Italy†4·419–2130·6
Netherlands‡6·018–2025·5
Federal Republic of Germany1·019–2119·2
United Kingdom║7·318–19*32·3
DenmarkNil19–2136·8
Ireland¶13·0*n.a.
Greece¶9·4*n.a.
Notes
* Not available.
† Universities only.
‡ Non-universities only.
║ Includes part-time.
¶ 1975–76.
* 1977–78.

Bradford University

36.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what representations he has received regarding the level of grant from the University Grants Committee to Bradford university.

In addition to other representations received, my right hon. Friend is to meet the vice-chancellor of Bradford later this month and I shall be visiting the university in April at the vice-chancellor's invitation.

Educational Services

38.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what representations he has received from local authorities about the proposed level of expenditure on educational services in 1982–83.

Since my announcement on 21 December 1981 of the Government's expenditure plans for education in 1982–83, I have received written representations and inquiries from elected members and officials of a number of local authorities.

Undergraduates (Numbers)

39.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many undergraduates are

population in the "typical year group" entering higher education. The following figures have been prepared by the OECD. Column 2 shows the age group encompassing 80 per cent. of all new entrants to full-time higher education in each country, from which the typical year group is calculated—for example, for the United Kingdom the typical year group is the total number of 18 and 19-year-olds divided by two.

These figures show that each year the total numbers entering full-time and part-time higher education in all age groups in the United Kingdom are roughly the equivalent of one-third of a typical year group. On this basis, we compare favourably with all our European partners.

expected to be in British universities by the autumn of 1984; and how this compares with the numbers at autumn 1978.

The number of full-time home and European Community undergraduates in universities in Great Britain in December 1978 was 222,930. It is estimated that there will be 218,000 in the autumn of 1984 if the student number targets set by the University Grants Committee for such students are attained. Both figures include students from Greece. There are no target numbers for overseas undergraduates from countries outside the EC.

School Closures

40.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many State primary and secondary schools were closed in 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980 and 1981, respectively.

The information is not available in the form requested. The number of schools approved or determined for closure by my right hon. Friend or local education authorities during those years is as follows:

PrimarySecondary
19778716
19787713
19796116
19808329
198118336

Wisbech Grammar School

41.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will make a statement about the future of Wisbech grammar school.

I understand that Cambridgeshire education authority is about to consult locally on a scheme to reorganise secondary education in the Wisbech area, which would include ceasing to maintain Wisbech grammar school. If the authority decides to proceed, proposals will be required under section 12 of the Education Act 1980.

Student Unions

42.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what recent representations he has received concerning the current system of financing student unions; and what further consideration he has given to the matter.

My right hon. Friend has received a number of representations seeking to meet part or all of student union expenditure through voluntary subscriptions. However, it is too early to contemplate reversing the arrangements introduced this academic year for funding student unions in competition with other calls on the recurrent income of their parent institutions and returning to a system of subscriptions. Before introducing these arrangements the Government gave careful consideration to a wide variety of options. The one chosen alone reflected the position of the student union as an integral part of its parent institution as defined in charters, statutes and articles of Government which also entail automatic membership of the union on enrolment in the student body.The new funding arrangements recognise that decisions on student union responsibilities must be taken locally and ensure that the cost is borne by the institution so closing the open-ended arrangements criticised by the Public Accounts Committee. There are already indications that the new arrangements are leading to greater cost-effectiveness.

54.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what further consideration he has given to the question of ultra vires activities of student unions.

Mathematics Teaching

43.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he expects to be able to implement any of the recommendations of the Cockcroft inquiry into the teaching of mathematics in schools before 31 December 1982; and if he will make a statement.

The report's recommendations are directed to a variety of agencies, and we hope that it will be widely read. It is too early to say which of its recommendations will be implemented in the short term. The Government are considering those recommendations where central action is called for or may be beneficial.

National Advisory Body For Local Authority Higher Education

45.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when he last chaired a meeting of the National Advisory Body for Local Authority Higher Education.

I chaired the first meeting of the committee of the national advisory body on 1 February and will chair its second meeting on 22 March.

Higher And Further Education

46.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when he informed local authorities of the changes in the financial arrangements for the advanced and further education pool in 1982–83; and what form this announcement took.

The overall size of the predetermined advanced further education pool was announced by the Secretary of State in the course of his answer to a parliamentary question on 21 December—[Vol. 15, c. 316.] Details of its distribution to authorities, and the precise level of individual authorities' contribution to the pool, were notified by means of a letter to all local education authorities dated 12 January 1982. The revised arrangements for the pool's distribution had been devised over the previous year in close consultation with representatives of the local authority associations and other interests.

16 To 19-Year-Old (Education Costs)

47.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what was the cost to public funds of the recent report by Arthur Young McClelland Moores & Co. entitled "Costing Educational Provision for the 16–19 age group".

52.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether his Department has carried out a cost analysis of the relative costs of (a) sixth forms and (b) tertiary colleges; and if he will make a statement.

No. The manual "Costing Educational Provision for the 16–19 Age Group" prepared for the Government and the local authority associations by Arthur Young McClelland Moores & Co. and recently published sets out a method by which local education authorities can cost alternative forms of 16 to 19 provision in their areas, in the light of their very variable local circumstances.

Secondary Education (West Cumbria)

48.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what will be his attitude towards the representations of the Conservative Party in West Cumbria on the subject of its reorganisation of secondary education.

If statutory proposals are published and fall to my right hon. Friend to decide, he will consider them solely on their individual merits. In doing so he will take account of evidence presented by the local education authority and provided by way of objection under section 12(3) of the Education Act 1980, together with all other representations from whatever source, in order to come to a conclusion on the educational and expenditure issues involved.

Unemployed Teachers

49.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the most recent estimate of the number of people qualified to teach who are unemployed.

The total number of people in England registered with the Department of Employment as unemployed and seeking work as teachers in Schools in December 1981 was 17,317. Some of these people may not be qualified to teach in maintained schools.

Manchester (Reorganisation)

51.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he has reached a decision on the modified Manchester reorganisation scheme submitted to his Department; and if he will make a statement.

I refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave to-day to the Member for Manchester, Gorton (Mr. Marks).

Gce O-Level

53.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what representations he has received about the retention of the General Certificate of Education at Ordinary level; and if he will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend is aware of the strong differences of opinion which exist about the best way to reform the existing dual system of examinations at 16-plus and some of the many letters he has received on this subject favour the retention of separate GCE O-level and CSE examinations. He hopes it will be possible to consult the examination boards in the near future about a detailed statement of Government policy on this issue.

School Sports Grounds

55.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many local education authorities and sports organisations he has consulted about the possible future use of school sports grounds; and if he will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend has carried out no such consultations. He welcomes shared use of schools although decisions about such use are for individual local education authorities. DES Statistical Bulletin 1/82 shows that school playing fields and indoor sports facilities are regularly used by outside groups.

Varicose Vein Complaints (Research)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what research facilities are being financed directly or indirectly by his Department into the causes and treatment of varicose vein complaints; and if he will make a statement.

The Medical Research Council, which receives a grant-in-aid from the science budget of the Department, is not currently supporting any projects specifically concerned with the causes and treatment of varicose vein complaints. Much of the council's wide programme of basic research, particularly in the fields of connective tissue and muscle, the cardiovascular system and genetics. could, however, be relevant to this area. It is likely that, in addition, a certain amount of research into the causes and treatment of varicose veins is being carried out at universities and medical schools, using funds provided through the University Grants Committee as block grants for teaching and research.

Personal Information

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science in what circumstances confidential personal information held by his Department is supplied to other Departments of State.

Employment

Government Assistance (Statistics)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will give the cost of all the assistance provided by his Department to the following areas for the most recent period for which figures are available: North Stafford, West Midlands, United Kingdom and the assisted areas; and if he will express the overall cost as the amount per person in the population and per unemployed person in each of the specified areas.

I regret that the very detailed information requested cannot be provided. We do not hold separate ependiture figures for each scheme in North Staffordshire or the West Midlands. The following table, however, provides details of national expenditure on these schemes.

Outturn 1980–81

£ million
Estimated Outturn 1981–82

£ million
Temporary Employment Subsidy0·9-(1)
Temporary Short-time Working Compensation Scheme365·0388·5
Job Release Scheme136·0166·7
Small Firms Employment Subsidy10·8-(2)
Job Creation Programme0·50·1
STEP and Community Enterprise Programme45·799·4
Community Industry19·022·0
Youth Opportunities Programme212·3413·6

Notes:

  • (1) The temporary employment subsidy closed for applications on 31 March 1979.
  • (2) The small firms employment subsidy closed for applications on 31 March 1980.
  • Industrial Injury Insurance

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list those schemes currently operated by the Manpower Services Commission under which the work people are not covered for industrial injury insurance; if he is satisfied that adequate ex-gratia payments for industrial injuries are being made; and if he will make a statement.

    Personal Information

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment in what circumstances confidential personal information held by his Department is supplied to other Departments of State.

    Confidential personal information is not supplied to other Departments except:

  • (a) with the consent of the person concerned;
  • (b) when it is clearly required for the exercise of statutory functions or safeguarding public funds. There is exchange of information with the Department of Health and Social Services in connection with unemployment and supplementary benefits and with the Inland Revenue for the purpose of taxation of unemployment benefits; and
  • (c) in connection with the investigation of serious crime.
  • Transport

    Lorry Weights

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he has examined the costs to haulage operators of additional axles which may be required on existing and new trucks as a result of his heavy lorry proposals; and if he will make a statement.

    I am advised that the cost of an extra axle will depend on the technical specification of equipment fitted and the amount of extra work needed on the vehicle.Manufacturers have told my officials that approximate costs excluding VAT are likely to be in the region of

    • £1,500 to £2,000 for new trailers
    • £2,000 to £3,000 for existing trailers
    • £3,000 to £5,000 for a non-driven axle on a new tractor
    • £5,000 to £7,000 for a driven axle on a new tractor

    The addition of an axle to existing tractors would present technical difficulties in most cases and, where feasible, the costs would be considerably increased.

    Any vehicle fitted with an additional axle will have to be presented at an HGV testing station where departmental examiners will check that all constructional and safety requirements are met.

    Severn Bridge

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will make a statement on the progress of maintenance on the Severn bridge; and what studies are available to him on the condition and maintenance of the bridge.

    The inspection and maintenance of the Severn bridge is a continuing process. An interim report by consulting engineers showed that, because of the increase in heavy vehicle traffic, it would be necessary to replace the existing bridge hangers with stronger ones. New hangers will now be designed. Meanwhile, the lane restriction that has been introduced in the early morning is keeping the traffic within acceptable margins of safety. The consulting engineers are now making an appraisal of the whole bridge and I expect to know the results in about a month's time.

    Radioactive Waste (Transportation)

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether irradiated waste or material is transported by road through Keighley or other parts of West Yorkshire; and if he will make a statement.

    The arrangements for ensuring safety in the transport of radioactive materials, which are based on International Atomic Energy Agency regulations, do not depend on the particular route used. Accordingly, my Department does not collect information of the kind requested.

    Seat Belts

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport, pursuant to the reply by the Under-Secretary of State for Transport to the hon. and learned Member for Leicester, West (Mr. Janner) on 10 March, Official Report, c. 827, about the compulsory wearing of seat belts, whether he expects the relative propensity to accidents of wearers compared with non-wearers to have a positive or negative effect on the casualty rate.

    The only information available about seat belt wearing in road accidents relates to casualties. Consequently, there is no direct evidence on the accident involvement rates of wearers and non-wearers. But fatal and serious casualty rates for wearers are half those of non-wearers, and part of the explanation for this is likely to be the physical protection provided by a seat belt in an accident. It may also be that non-wearers have higher accident involvement rates and, if this is so, it would reduce the effect of compulsory seat belt wearing on overall casualty rates.

    M4, West Drayton

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport what representations he has received about the effect of the proposal to widen the eastbound carriageway of the M4 on the north side on Great Bently, Little Benty, Wordsworth Way and adjoining roads in West Drayton; if he will reconsider this proposal; if he will consider realigning the carriageway and widening the motorway on the south side; and if he will make a statement.

    Objections to the proposal to widen this section of the M4 were considered at a public inquiry in respect of the M25 motorway in 1979–80. As recommended by the inspector, I am at present giving urgent further consideration to an alternative alignment further to the south. I shall make an announcement as soon as possible.

    Street Parking

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport if, in view of the danger to pedestrians, particularly those visually and physically handicapped, caused by the parking of vehicles on the pavement. he w ill take steps to implement at an early date section 7 of the Road Traffic Act 1974.

    [pursuant to her reply, 15 March 1982, c. 54]: Implementation of section 7 has been deferred because representatives of local authorities and the police are not yet in a position to implement and enforce a footway parking ban. It is an offence under existing law to drive on footways, to park on footways in roads where yellow line waiting restrictions are in force, to park heavy commercial vehicles on footways, and to leave a vehicle in a dangerous or obstructive position. I deplore inconsiderate parking which endangers handicapped people. My Department will issue further publicity material to discourage it.

    Environment

    Housing Debt

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish the housing debt per capita for each London borough, metropolitan district and non-metropolitan district in England.

    The information requested is published by the Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy in its "Return of Outstanding Debt as at March 1981", a copy of which is in the Library.The figures are listed under the headings "Housing Revenue Account" and "Other" housing debt. The first of these refers to debt incurred in the provision or improvement of housing revenue account housing that is council houses. "Other" housing debt refers to other debts incurred by local authorities in the provision or improvement of housing; covering improvement grants for private sector dwellings and expenditure in general improvement areas and housing action areas and on slum clearance.

    Rateable Values

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will seek to amend legislation to allow a concessionary reduction in the rateable value of residential properties which have been built by their owner-occupiers.

    Residential property is assessed for rating purposes on the basis of its rental value on the open market and the fact that a property is built by its owner-occupier is not a relevant factor. It would, therefore, be difficult to justify allowing a special rates concession for such properties, particularly at a time when we are undertaking a fundamental review of the whole of the domestic rating system.

    Departmental Recruitment

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether his Department has employed "headhunters" in the last 12 months for recruitment to jobs that are within his control; if so, what fees have been paid to the "headhunters"; for what jobs they have sought applicants; and how many jobs they have filled.

    My Department has used "headhunters" on two occasions in the past 12 months to fill the following posts:

  • i. The chairmen for the Southern and Anglian regional water authorities.
  • ii. The chief executive post of the Property Services Agency.
  • In addition, my Department is currently employing a firm of "headhunters" to handle the response from advertisements for chairmen of the Severn-Trent, Wessex and Northumbrian regional water authorities.

    To maintain commercial confidentiality, it is not the practice to divulge individual fees paid.

    Land Reclamation

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if, in his land reclamation programme, he will take into account the problems of councils which suffer from an absence of private sector interest in land reclamation programmes; and whether he will ensure such councils will not be penalised by being given lower priority.

    As my right hon. Friend announced in the House on 9 December—[Vol. 14, c. 865.]—it is the Government's intention that those derelict land reclamation schemes submitted by local authorities which from the outset are associated with firm private sector proposals for industrial, commercial, housing or other developments should receive preferential treatment in the allocation of derelict land funds.Other applications for grant will certainly be considered on their merits in the light of the resources remaining.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment why some councils, in particular Hyndburn, are experiencing serious delays with the processing of their pre-tender applications for their programmes of land reclamation.

    I am not aware of any complaints from local authorities generally about such delays.The Department has received representations from the Hyndburn borough council about the time taken to process some of its applications, and my noble Friend the Lord Bellwin has sent the town clerk a full reply, a copy of which will be sent to the hon. Member.

    Water Losses

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the average percentage of water lost through leakage in England for the last available year; and if he will give the average for each water authority.

    I have no reliable estimates of the percentage of water lost through leakage in England, but a survey in 1977 showed that, on average, approximately 24 per cent. of water supplied in Great Britain was unaccounted for and leakage must have been the major factor.

    Northern Regional Office (Staff)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what has been the reduction in the staff of the Northern regional office of his Department since May 1979.

    Between 1 April 1979 and 1 April 1982 staff in post will have been reduced by 26 per cent. without redundancies or compulsory transfers.

    Direct Labour Organisations

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will announce the results of his review' of the operation of the legislation on direct labour organisations.

    The Government are taking steps to ensure that a greater share of local authority construction and maintenance work will be put out to competition with private building and civil engineering contractors.A joint Department of the Environment-Welsh Office Circular—DOE circular 6/82-Welsh Office Circular 12/82—which is being issued today explains how the existing competition rules for direct labour organisations will be further strenthened by amended regulations and new directions, following a review by the Secretaries of State for the Environment and for Wales of the operation of part III of the Local Government, Planning and Land Act 1980, which came into effect in England and Wales on 1 April 1981.Under the amended competition regulations—SI 1982: No. 325—now before Parliament, from 1 October 1982 30 per cent. by value for works of maintenance below the £10,000 per job threshold, which was previously exempt from competition, will be required to be put out to competition when the total value of such work is in excess of £300,000 in a full year.The threshold for competition for highway works is being reduced from £100,000 to £50,000 from the same date.Under the new annual reports directions annexed to the circular, local authorities and development bodies will be required to identify publicly, amongst other matters, those contracts awarded to a DLO where the DLO was not the lowest tenderer.

    Home Improvement And Insulation

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what percentage increase in home improvement and home insulation expenditure will be possible in 1982–83 following the Chancellor of the Exchequer's Budget Statement; and when local authorities will receive details of their increased allocations.

    On the basis of what we currently estimate local authorities will spend on home improvement grants in 1981–82, the additional £74·5 million for home improvement available for England as a result of the Chancellor's Budget Statement will make possible an increase of about 50 per cent. in expenditure on home improvement grants in 1982–83. For home insulation grants the additional £7·5 million will permit an increase of expenditure of about 30 per cent.To ensure that authorities can take early and vigorous action to expand their home improvement programmes, we intend that they should receive details of their increased allocations as rapidly as possible. To enable these allocations to be made on the basis of up-to-date information my Department wrote the day after the Budget to each local authority asking them to provide by 31 March, an estimate of the additional expenditure they now expect to incur in 1982–83 on home improvement and home insulation grants. The necessary order to increase the rates of repair and intermediate grants will be laid before the House very shortly, and will, subject to parliamentary approval, come into effect on 13 April. By about that date each local authority can expect to receive a provisional additional allocation for home improvement grants. Authorities will be able to plan firmly on the basis of the figure in the provisional allocation which will be conditional only on the necessary number of improvement grant applications being received to justify the allocation. For home insulation grants allocations will be made before the new insulation grant limits come into effect on 1 May.

    Local Authorities (Work Contracts)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the current amount of work of local authorities carried out by direct labour and private contract, respectively; and if he will express the figures as a percentage in each case of the total local authority expenditure in England and Wales.

    [pursuant to his reply, 8 March 1982, c. 339.]: The available estimates for the financial year 1980–81 for local authorities in England and Wales are as follows:

    Work done by DLO's*

    £ million
    Total Expenditure †

    £ million
    New construction work:
    Housing80l,600
    Non-housing1,2011,500
    Repair and maintenance:
    Housing700900
    Non-housing780Not available

    Sources:

    * DLO returns—value of construction work done.

    † New construction—capital payments return repairs and maintenance—Housing revenue account.

    Estimates of the work done by private contractors for local authorities are not available. The difference between total local authority expenditure and work done by DLO's does not represent work done by contractors for local authorities since the figures are not constructed on a comparable basis.

    Defence

    Civilian Employees

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will list the number of civilians employed in defence and defence-related jobs in Scotland; where the jobs are located; and how many of them are in North Atlantic Treaty Organisation establishments or units.

    The number of directly employed MOD civilian staff in Scotland at the latest available date of 1 January 1982 was 21,100. These are spread over a large number of establishments, many of which employ only a few civilians. If my hon. Friend is interested in any particular units I would be prepared, subject to security considerations, to consider providing details.In addition, there are some 250 civilian jobs at NATO establishments in Scotland.As regards defence-related expenditure, I regret that statistics are not available on the number of jobs generated by the equipment programme or by defence sales in specific regions of the United Kingdom, as I said in reply to the hon. Member for Dundee, East (Mr. Wilson) on 25 February.

    Gallantry And Campaign Medals

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he is now able to reply to the letter from the hon. Member for Bothwell about the return of gallantry and campaign medals sent to him on 18 February.

    Air Defence

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will state the number of squadrons and the aircraft types committed to air defence in (a) the United Kingdom air defence regions and (b) the Royal Air Force, Germany.

    There are two squadrons of Lightnings and five squadrons of Phantoms committed to the air defence of the United Kingdom and two squadrons of Phantoms in RAF Germany. A further squadron of Lightning aircraft is available as a reserve and an additional squadron of Phantoms, normally used in the training role, is also available.

    Trident

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence when the first payments for the Trident system are to be made.

    Payments for the Trident strategic weapon system, which involve items common to both the C4 and D5 systems, have already commenced following the original decision in 1980 to replace Polaris with Trident.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what provision in the agreement on Trident reached with the United States Government is made for cancellation charges; and how the levels of such charges vary with the date of cancellation.

    There is no general cancellation provision as such. The purchase of the Trident II D5 weapon system from the United States will take place under the general pattern of the Polaris sales agreement, Cmnd. 1995. Under this agreement, the United Kingdom is liable for costs that may result from the termination of contracts for specific items of equipment for the United Kingdom programme. The level of such costs would depend upon the commitments involved at the time of any such termination.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what are the minimum and maximum percentages of the capital costs of Trident which could be spent in the United Kingdom.

    On the basis of current exchange rates we estimate that something over 55 per cent. of the capital cost of the Trident II (D5) programme, involving a total of about £500 million more than with Trident I (C4), will be spent directly in the United Kingdom. The eventual level will depend upon a number of factors which cannot be quantified at this stage. These include the number of subcontracts let to United Kingdom firms for weapon system components for the Trident II (D5) programme under the terms set out in Cmnd. 8517.

    Social Services

    General Practice Trainees (Complaints)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will take steps to introduce an independent complaints procedure for general practice trainees.

    No. I am not aware of inadequacies in the present procedures. General medical practitioners on the list of family practitioner committees are answerable for acts and omissions of general practice trainees.

    Childless Couples (Organisations)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether his Department provides financial assistance to organisations providing advice and support to childless couples.

    The Department is providing an annual grant of £13,000 to the National Association for the Childless.

    Junior Hospital Doctors (Accommodation)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he is satisfied with the standards and type of accommodation provided for junior hospital doctors when they are on call and that they are within a reasonable distance of their places of work.

    Broadly, yes. My Department issues guidance on standards for on-call accommodation, though inevitably there are difficulties in meeting these in some older hospitals. If the hon. Member is concerned about any particular hospital, he should approach the health authority concerned.

    Sterile Products

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he intends to introduce a registration scheme for the manufacturers of sterile products.

    The detailed arrangements for the registration scheme for manufacturers of sterile products have been agreed with trade associations and application forms will shortly be issued to manufacturers. The first list of approved manufacturers will be issued later this year by the Supply Council.

    Claim Control Officers

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what specific training is received by specialist claim control officers operating in local offices of his Department.

    "Specialist claims control" applies the Department's fraud techniques to categories of claimants in accordance with written instructions. Of 129 officers of the Department employed in specialist claims control last month, 125 had previous experience of the Department's ordinary fraud work for which they would have been trained.

    Hospital Waiting Lists

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the number of patients waiting for in-hospital treatment per thousand of the population as at 1 September 1981 and 1 September 1979 for the following area health authorities: Bromsgrove and Redditch, Herefordshire, Kidderminster and district, Worcester and district, Shropshire, Mid-Staffordshire, North

    31 March 197930 September 197931 March 1981
    Health DistrictWaiting List*Population†Waiting List*Population†Waiting List*Population‡
    Hereford2,049146·62,093146·62,168
    Bromsgrove and Redditch1,775146·61,621146·61,493
    Kidderminster1,131100·0922100·0925
    Worcester2,065224·72,403224·72,398
    Salop6,708369·56,467369·56,820
    Mid Staffordshire2,700290·92,787290·92,419
    North Staffordshire11,046468·310,739468·39,768
    South East Staffordshire1,693240·71,733240·72,402
    North Warwickshire2,666169·92,610169·91,845
    Rugby71383·876683·8771
    South Warwickshire3,078215·22,944215·22,648
    Central Birmingham7,760249·37,768249·35,529
    East Birmingham4,503152·14,26115214,232
    North Birmingham4,104167·94,161167·93,221
    South Birmingham6,837255·06,203255·05,367
    West Birmingham4,917209·65,232209·64,299
    Coventry7,422339·36,875339·37,019
    Dudley5,909296·05,885296·05,786
    Sandwell1,920306·91,729306·91,995
    Solihull2,134198·31,916198·31,818
    Walsall4,472263·44,194263·43,148
    Wolverhampton4,291258·24,384258·24,077
    Total (Region)89,89387,69380,148
    *Total all specialities urgent and non-urgent.
    † Total managed population in thousands at Mid 1979.
    ‡ Mid 1981 population figures are not yet available.

    Salloden Clinic, Leeds

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services why the licence for the Salloden clinic, Leeds, has been granted for six months instead of one year; whether any other private clinics in England and Wales have had the period of their licence reduced; and for what reasons.

    I assume the hon. Member is referring to approval under section 1(3) of the Abortion Act of the Salloden private nursing home, Leeds. This nursing home was granted approval for only six months because it was found not to be complying with all the assurances on the conduct of nursing homes required by my right hon. Friend as a condition of approval. The care of patients is not, however, in doubt. In previous years other private nursing homes have been granted approval for limited periods for incomplete compliance with these assurances.

    Varicose Veins Operations

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will give the average waiting time for each regional hospital board in England for an operation for varicose veins; what is the waiting time for National Health Service patients and private patients under the National Health Service; and if he will make a statement.

    Staffordshire, South-East Staffordshire, Rugby, North Warwickshire, South Warwickshire, Central Birmingham, East Birmingham, North Birmingham, South Birmingham, West Birmingham, Coventry, Dudley, Sandwell, Solihull, Walsall and Wolverhampton.

    Information in the form requested is not held centrally, but the figures available are as follows:

    The following table shows the average waiting times, based on a one in 10 sample of National Health Service patients, for in-patient operations on all veins in 1978—the latest year for which figures are available. They do not include waiting times for day surgery, and separate figures for varicose veins are not collected. The regions shown are those of the patients' residence.

    RegionMean waiting time in weeks
    Northern24·8
    Yorkshire30·2
    Trent57·0
    East Anglian47·3
    North West Thames23·9
    North East Thames28·1
    South East Thames27·8
    South West Thames27·0
    Wessex39·0
    Oxford36·7
    South Western49·0
    West Midlands40·4
    Mersey21·0
    North Western45·1
    England35·7

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will given an assessment of days lost from work by patients waiting for varicose vein operations; if he will given an estimate of the total cost as well as an estimate of individual costs; and if he will make a statement.

    In the year ended 31 May 1980, the latest for which figures are available, the number of days of certified incapacity recorded as being due to varicose veins of the lower extremities was 1,432,700. The number of these which were accounted for by patients awaiting operations is not recorded.

    Patient Care (Funding)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will seek to make available sufficient funds to avoid the substantial cuts in patient care specialty services and the teaching of postgraduate junior doctors at the University of Leeds.

    I have no reason to believe that any problems are arising at Leeds which cannot be managed without help from my Department.If any reduction in the provision of patient care services or the teaching of postgraduate junior doctors were to arise from the financial position of the University of Leeds, these would be matters for consideration by the Yorkshire regional health authority, the Leeds health authorities and the university.

    Blood Laboratory, Elstree

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what are the terms of reference of the blood laboratory at Elstree; and whether the laboratory is precluded from developing or expanding into areas of production when private pharmaceutical companies are involved.

    The blood products laboratory operates under the NHS Act 1977 in accordance with policies approved by my right hon. Friend. Any proposals to develop new products derived from blood or to expand the laboratory's production are considered on their merits by the joint management committee for the central blood laboratories.

    Patients (Compensation Payments)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list in the Official Report the amount of compensation which has been paid to patients in the National Health Service for each of the last five years resulting from court decisions and from voluntary ex gratia payments.

    According to returns from health authorities in England, the total amounts of compensation paid as a result of court decisions, legal advice or settlements out of court were as follows:

    £
    1976–77904,608
    1977–781,416,461
    1978–791,519,380
    1979–802,191,914
    1980–813,440,227
    Most of these sums will have been paid to patients, but it is not possible to identify the amounts separately from the information held centrally.

    In addition, compensation paid on an ex gratia basis, including payments to patients, totalled:

    £
    1976–77117,991
    1977–78146,216
    1978–79213,426
    1979–80209,189
    1980–81251,299

    Contaminated First-Aid Dressings

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the proposal to reprocess contaminated first-aid dressings imported from India; what precautions will be observed; what tests are carried out; and what supervision will be exercised prior to any dressings being placed on sale.

    As was made clear in the document placed in the Library of the House by my predecessor on 26 January, steam sterilisation of suspect first-aid dressings will be acceptable if undertaken in the proper manner. The paper used for the inner wrapping of such dressings is also regarded as suspect and the dressings would need to be rewrapped. Suppliers holding stocks of these dressings who are considering resterilisation by the recommended steam process have been strongly advised to contact the Department before proceeding. The responsibility for ensuring that products sold as sterile are in fact sterile must remain with the supplier, but the Department is maintaining strict oversight of resterilisation procedures and will commission further sterility tests as necessary.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many tests for sterility have been carried out on United Kingdom manufactured first-aid dressings; what were the results; if he is satisfied that there is no danger to health; and if he will make a statement.

    The Department arranged for representative samples of sterile standard first-aid dressings manufactured in the United Kingdom to be tested. Tests on a limited number of samples cannot establish sterility with certainty. Properly validated and controlled sterilising procedures are the best assurance. The Department has visited the three United Kingdom manufacturers, Smith and Nephew Ltd., Robert Bailey and Sons Ltd. and Robinsons of Chesterfield Ltd., to examine their sterilising procedures for first-aid products. The results of the tests backed by these visits have provided adequate assurance of the sterility of first-aid dressings from these manufacturers and I am satisfied that they pose no danger to health.

    Personal Information

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services in what circumstances confidential personal information held by his Department is supplied to other Departments of State.

    Personal information held in departmental records is regarded as confidential and is not normally disclosed to a third party—or another Government Department—without the consent of the person concerned.

    Supplementary Benefit

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services on what authority his Department's northern regional office was able to issue guidance on the payment of supplementary benefit to unemployed teenagers attending part-time education in advance of the issue of a circular on the matter by the Chief Supplementary Benefit Officer; and whether the issue of the guidance in the Northern region alone implies any difference in the policy of Her Majesty's Government on this matter in different parts of the United Kingdom.

    The rules regarding unemployed claimants attending part-time courses as set out in the Supplementary Benefit (Condition of Entitlement) Regulations apply throughout Great Britain. In the absence of case law established by the social security commissioners, it is open either to the chief supplementary benefit officer or to regional supplementary benefit officers, who are independent of Ministers, to issue guidance to local supplementary benefit officers on how a particular regulation should be interpreted. The regional supplementary benefit officer based in Newcastle decided to issue a temporary circular in advance of the guidance to be issued by the chief supplementary benefit officer because of difficulties some benefit officers in his region were having with particular cases.

    Capital Disregard

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when the present capital disregard for people in local authority residential care was fixed; to what level it would now have to be raised to have kept pace with inflation; what plans he has to increase it; and if he will make a statement.

    I refer the right hon. Member to my hon. Friend's reply to the hon. Member for Eccles (Mr. Carter-Jones) on 8 December 1981—[Vol. 14, c. 364]. The capital disregard would need to be raised to about £2,600 to reflect the movement in the general index and retail prices between mid-November 1975 and mid-January 1982.

    Kidney Patients

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many kidney patients have been treated by continuous ambulatory peritoneal dialysis in the last three years; and how many of these developed serious side effects.

    Information on the total number of kidney patients treated by continuous ambulatory peritoneal dialysis in the last three years is not yet available. The number in the United Kingdom receiving this form of treatment on 1 March 1982 is estimated at 923. At present, about one-sixth of all patients on CAPD have to transfer to other forms of treatment within 12 months owing to peritonitis or other serious abdominal problems.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will provide additional resources for more research to improve continuous ambulatory peritoneal dialysis for kidney patients.

    The Medical Research Council, which is the main Government-funded body supporting research into renal disease from its grant-in-aid from the science budget of the Department of Education and Science is supporting some research in this field. The need for further research effort to improve continuous ambulatory peritoneal dialysis for kidney patients will be kept under review, but in the meantime the council is always willing to consider scientifically sound proposals for research in this field. Where the research needs is simply for development or evaluation of equipment, the DHSS will consider funding research from its own resources.

    Mentally Handicapped Children

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) how many voluntary organisations have made successful applications for matching grants to help move children out of mental handicap hospitals into the community;(2) how many applications have been received for money from his Department's fund set up to offer matching grants to voluntary organisations to help move children out of mental handicap hospitals into the community.

    Thirteen applications for grants under the £1 million for £1 million scheme have been received so far and a number of proposals are awaited from the larger voluntary organisations which are known to be consulting the relevent local authorities before making their applications. While several applicants have been asked to provide further information, it has not yet been possible to approve any of the projects submitted to date mainly because they are not apparently designed to meet the scheme's first requirement—to get children under 16 out of hospital.

    Hospitals

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the hospitals which have been completed, or near completion, which have not yet been brought into operation because of revenue costs; and how many beds are affected.

    [pursuant to the reply, 25 January 1982, c. 277.]: The information requested has now been obtained from regional health authorities and is as follows:

    • University hospital, Nottingham, Phas II: 694 out of a total of 1,000 beds available for occupation since October 1981.
    • Ealing district general hospital: eight out of a total of 406 beds available for occupation since February 1979.
    • Derriford district general hospital, Plymouth: 30 out of a total of 347 beds available for occupation since October 1980.
    • Kettering hospital: 34 out of a total of 311 beds available for occupation since January 1979.
    • St. George's hospital, Tooting: 10 out of 273 beds available for occupation since January 1980.
    • Witney hospital, Oxfordshire: 43 out of a total of 78 beds available for occupation since April 1979.
    • Walsgrave general hospital, Coventry: out of a total of 96 upgraded beds, 22 available since October 1977 and 16 since March 1980.
    • Chase Farm hospital, Enfield: 84 out of a total of 196 beds available for occupation since February 1979.
    This is a very unsatisfactory situation, but it is steadily improving. There are 632 fewer beds affected than were affected 12 months ago and in two developments—at St. Peter's hospital, Chertsey, and Guildford hospital—all the beds vacant at this time last year have now been opened so that they no longer appear in the list.

    Health Services (Performance Indicators)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish in the Official Report the indicators of performance in the delivery of health services which his Department is producing for a pilot region of the National Health Service and referred to in a written answer to the right hon. Member for Taunton (Mr. du Cann) on 22 January, Official Report, column 211; and if he will publish such indicators for all health service regions for 1982–83.

    [pursuant to his reply, 16 February 1982, c. 89]: The list of indicators referred to is as follows:

  • 1. Average total cost per in-patient case.*
  • 2. Average cost of direct treatment services and supplies per in-patient case.
  • 3. Average cost of medical and paramedical support services per in-patient case.
  • 4. Average cost of general (non-clinical) services per inpatient day.
  • 5. The proportion of all admissions classified as immediate admissions.
  • 6. The proportion of all admissions classified as urgent involving a delay of more than one month before admission.
  • 7. The proportion of all admissions classified as non-urgent involving a delay of more than one year before admission.
  • 8. Average length of stay for hospital in-patients. *
  • 9. Average in-patient cases per bed over the year.*
  • 10. The proportion of all in-patients and day patients treated as day cases.*
  • 11. The average number of out-patients seen in each clinic session.*
  • 12. The ratio between new and returning out-patients.*
  • 13. The number of health visitors and district nurses per head of population. †
  • 14. The number of NHS administrative and clerical staff per head of population. †
  • * Data standardised to take account of specialty mix.
  • † Using population figures weighted to take account of factors affecting morbidity such as the age mix of the population.
  • Hospital servicesCommunity health servicesFamily practitioner and other services
    £ million£ million£ million
    REVENUE EXPENDITURE
    (a) Direct patient care services3,564·4472·22,663·6
    (b) General services
    (i) Catering315·90·2
    (ii) Portering125·90·5
    (iii) Domestic/cleaning364·110·7
    (iv) Other1,233·3113·8
    (v) Total2,039·2125·2
    CAPITAL EXPENDITURE439·834·988·5
    TOTAL£ million6,043·4632·32,752·1
    per cent.64·16·729·2

    Scotland

    Varicose Veins (Operations)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give the average waiting time for each regional hospital board in Scotland for an operation for varicose veins; what is the waiting time for National

    Also under consideration is a range of primarily activity-based and staffing indicators involving analysis on a specialty basis.

    Kidney Patients (Treatment Cost)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will give the latest available figures on the annual cost of treating a kidney patient by (a) transplant and one year's follow up, (b) hospital haemodialysis, (c) home haemodialysis and (d) continuous ambulatory peritoneal dialysis.

    [pursuant to his reply, 23 February 1982, c. 349]: The estimated annual costs at November 1981 prices, excluding drugs and investigations, are £10,600 for hospital haemodialysis, £7,000 for home haemodialysis and £6,200 for continuous ambulatory peritoneal dialysis. I regret the error in my earlier reply to the hon. Member in which the figures quoted were at 1980 prices, and not 1981 as stated. The figures have also been revised to take account of the completion of work at one of the hospitals covered in the Department's study. Our estimate for the cost of an uncomplicated kidney transplant and one year's follow up remains—with the qualification stated in my earlier reply—at about £5,000.

    Hospitals (Costs And Expenditure)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what proportion of Health Service expenditure is currently spent on hospitals;(2) what is the current level of

    (a) total and (b) general costs in National Health Service hospitals;

    (3) how expenditure on hospital and community health care for the current year is made up in terms of (a) capital expenditure, (b) catering, (c) portering and (d) domestic services.

    [pursuant to his reply, 4 March 1982, c. 228]: The printed table of expenditure by regional health authorities, area health authorities and boards of governors in 1980–81 should have read as follows:Health Service patients and private patients under the National Health Service; what is his best estimate of the cost of treatment prior to operation for varicose veins in each of the areas of Scotland; and if he will make a statement.

    During 1979, the latest date for which information is available, the mean waiting time for patients admitted as in-patients from the waiting list for an operation for varicose veins were as follows. Separate information is not available for private patients. It is not possible to make a reliable estimate of the cost of treatment prior to any particular type of operation.

    Health BoardMean Wailing time*
    Ayrshire and Arran237 days
    Borders226 days
    Argyll and Clyde283 days
    Fife268 days
    Greater Glasgow131 days
    Highland78 days
    Lanarkshire173 days
    Grampian133 days
    Orkney40 days
    Lothian157 days
    Tayside140 days
    Forth Valley243 days
    Western Isles78 days
    Dumfries and Galloway456 days
    Shetland183 days
    * Figures relate to those patients admitted from the waiting list and released from hospital during 1979.

    Personal Information

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland in what circumstances confidential personal information held by his Department is supplied to other Departments of State.

    In certain cases such information may be conveyed to another Department for example to prevent the spread of disease.If the hon. Member has a particular case in mind perhaps he would write to me.

    Interest Rates (Farmers)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what representations he has received concerning the adverse effect of high interest rates on farmers.

    I have received representations from the National Farmers Union of Scotland and individual farmers.

    Illegitimate Children

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will implement the recommendations of the Scottish Law Commission in its recent report on the legal position of illegitimate children.

    On 9 March the Scottish Law Commission published a consultative memorandum on illegitimacy on which it invited comments by 30 September. The commission will prepare and submit a final report, following further consideration in the light of comments received. At that stage the Government will give careful consideration to its recommendations.

    Police Interviews (Tape Recording)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a further statement on the tape recording of police questioning of suspects.

    The experimental tape recording of police interviews with suspects which started in Dundee and Falkirk police stations on 1 May 1980 will continue at least until mid-1982. As my hon. Friend indicated in his reply to the hon. Member for Glasgow, Garscadden (Mr. Dewar)—[Vol. 2, c. 84]—on 31 March 1981 we have found no insuperable technical difficulties in recording questioning on tape. Difficulties remain however to be resolved about bringing the tapes as evidence before the court and further clarification of the law is desirable. At present, however, the scope of the experiment is limited and the number of relevant cases coming before the courts is small. It has therefore been agreed, after discussion with the chief constables concerned and with the Association of Chief Police Officers (Scotland), that the experiment should continue in Dundee and Falkirk and be extended to police stations in Glasgow and Aberdeen from April this year.The Government's view remains that the tape recording of police interrogations is a desirable development, but it is essential that the experiment should continue until we have a clear idea of the practical and legal implications before considering its wider introduction.

    Road Transport Industry Training Board

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on the future of the Road Transport Industry Training Board multi-occupational training and education centre in Scotland.

    I have been asked to reply.I refer the hon. Member to my reply to the hon. Member for Edinburgh East (Mr. Strang) on 9 March.—[Vol. 19, c. 385.]

    Unemployment Statistics

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will provide a breakdown of the number of unemployed in Dundee by age groups.

    [pursuant to his reply, 11 March 1982, c. 484.]: The following table gives an analysis by age group of the numbers registered and unemployed in Dundee on 14 January 1982, the latest date for which this information is available.

    Numbers registered as unemployed in Dundee
    Age groupnumber
    Under 181,444
    18–244,640
    25–343,750
    35–442,101
    45–592,896
    60 and over632
    Total15,463

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the current number of registered vacant jobs in Dundee; if he will provide a breakdown by standard industrial classification; and what are the corresponding figures for May 1979.

    [pursuant to his reply, 11 March 1982, c. 484]: On 5 February 1982 there were 289 vacancies notified to the employment office and none to the careers office in Dundee remaining unfilled. The following table gives an analysis by standard industrial classification of these vacancies, with comparable figures for May 1979. These figures are not seasonally adjusted and do not purport to be a measure of all vacancies in Dundee. Because of possible duplication between the vacancies notified to the employment office and the careers office the two sets of figures for May 1979 should not be added together.

    Unfilled Vacancies: Dundee
    Standard Industrial ClassificationFebruary 1982

    Employment Office
    May 1979

    Employment Office
    Careers Office
    Agriculture, Forestry, Fishing1
    Mining and Quarrying
    Food, Drink and Tobacco27
    Coal and Petroleum Products1
    Chemicals and Allied Industries2
    Metal Manufacture43_
    Mechanical Engineering321
    Instrument Engineering2585
    Electrical Engineering47
    Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering215
    Vehicles3_
    Metal Goods not elsewhere specified9
    Textiles27
    Leather, Leather Goods and Fur
    Clothing and Footwear1112
    Bricks, Pottery, Glass, Cement, etc.1
    Timber, Furniture, etc.27
    Paper, Printing and Publishing28
    Other Manufacturing Industries621
    Construction176718
    Gas, Electricity and Water16
    Transport and Communication2232
    Distributive Trades7516224
    Insurance, Banking, Finance and Business Services2925
    Professional and Scientific Services4275
    Miscellaneous Services42139
    Public Administration and Defence3795
    Total28978778

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many and what percentage of those unemployed in Dundee have been out of work for the following periods: (a) up to one year, (b) between one and two years, (c) between two and three years, (d) over three years.

    [pursuant to his reply, 11 March 1982, c. 484]: The following table gives an analysis by duration of unemployment of the numbers registered as unemployed in Dundee on 14 January 1982, the latest date for which this information is available.

    DurationNumbers registered as unemployed in DundeePercentage
    Up to 1 year10,17565·8
    Over 1 and up to 2 years3,30221·3
    Over 2 and up to 3 years9055·9
    Over 3 years1,0817·0
    TOTAL15,463100

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give a breakdown of the numbers unemployed in Dundee by standard industrial classification; and how these statistics compare with those in May 1979.

    [pursuant to his reply, 11 March 1982, c. 484]: The following table gives the

    numbers of people registered as unemployed in Dundee on 12 August 1981—the latest date for which an analysis by industry of the unemployment register is available—and on 10 May 1979. The figures are not seasonally adjusted.

    Standard Industrial Classification

    Numbers registered as unemployed in Dundee

    12 August 1981

    10 May 1979

    Agriculture, Forestry, Fishing203142
    Mining and Quarrying6764
    Food, Drink and Tobacco449358
    Coal and Petroleum Products1313
    Chemicals and Allied Industries3128
    Metal Manufacture17360
    Mechanical Engineering157146
    Instrument Engineering975366
    Electrical Engineering358178
    Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering31781
    Vehicles2215
    Metal Goods not elsewhere specified8248
    Textiles1,3951,085
    Leather, Leather Goods and Fur44
    Clothing and Footwear16186
    Bricks, Pottery Glass, Cement, etc.2810
    Timber, Furniture, etc.12257
    Paper, Printing and Publishing188127
    Other Manufacturing Industries15193
    Construction1,631690
    Gas, Electricity and Water5121
    Transport and Communication434310
    Distributive Trades1,404830
    Insurance, Banking, Finance and Business Services186109

    Standard Industrial Classification

    Numbers registered as unemployed in Dundee

    12 August 1981

    10 May 1979

    Professional and Scientific Services702416
    Miscellaneous Services1,387779
    Public Administration and Defence753619

    Standard Industrial Classification

    Numbers registered as unemployed in Dundee

    12 August 1981

    10 May 1979

    Not classified by industry3,8081,374
    Total15,2528,109