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Written Answers

Volume 26: debated on Tuesday 29 June 1982

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday 29 June 1982

Trade

Foreign Investment

asked the Minister for Trade what was the amount invested in the United Kingdom by

Unremitted profitsNet acquisition of share and loan capitalNet increase in amounts due to overseas parent companies on:Total
Inter-company accountBranch head office account
1978556·8152·5204·58·9922·7
1979914·6*-11·1-12·71,58·91,049·7
* Negative in 1979 as the result of certain subsidiary companies being reorganised as branches.

Counterfeit Goods

asked the Minister for Trade how many complaints he has received relating to alleged manufacture of counterfeit goods, in particular cosmetics and consumer goods, within the United Kingdom.

We have received complaints about the marketing of counterfeit goods both in this country and abroad but none that we can trace relating specifically to counterfeits manufactured in the United Kingdom.

asked the Minister for Trade if he will press for an agreement on counterfeiting in his negotiations with the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade at the ministerial meeting in November 1982; and whether, if agreement can be secured between the main European Community countries, he will seek to implement that agreement, even if this is opposed by Third world countries.

The opening for signature in GATT of an agreement on measures to discourage international trade in counterfeit merchandise would only be possible with the collective agreement of the contracting parties to the general agreement on tariffs and trade, which include many from the developing world. It would then be for each country to decide whether or not to adhere to it. With our Community partners and the United States, we are pressing the case for consideration of this problem at the GATT ministerial meeting in November 1982. An agreement between European Community countries only would not need to involve the GATT but would be of much less value since most counterfeiting problems originate elsewhere.

Product Liability

asked the Minister for Trade how negotiations on the draft European Economic Community directive on product liability are proceeding; what is Her Majesty's Government's policy towards this directive; and if he will make a statement.

overseas enterprises in 1978 and 1979; how much in each case was retained profit; what effect the change in accounting for corporation tax had on the total; and whether he can provide the corresponding figures for manufacturing alone.

Detailed figures of the components and level of inward direct investment were given in table 6 of the article "Overseas net direct investment in 1980", a copy of which is in the library. The articles also gives on pages 79 and 80 a rough indication of the effects of the change in accounting for deferred tax; precise estimates are not available. Figures for inward direct investment in manufacturing for 1978 and 1979 corresponding to table 6 are as follows:

The Government's attitude to the draft directive remains as set out by my right hon. Friend the Member for Gloucester (Mrs. Oppenheim) during the debate in the House on 4 November 1980. The Government have noted the support that many of our partners have given to the principle underlining the draft directive and accept that there would be advantages in establishing a common system of liability throughout the Community. They are therefore prepared to negotiate constructively on the basis of the Commission's draft. This did not, however, strike a proper balance between the interests of injured victims and of producers. The Government have therefore reserved their position on the draft and are seeking improvements. One of the most important of these is a "state of the art" defence under which a producer would not be liable for a defect which could not have been detected by a producer of the type of goods in question in the light of the scientific and technological knowledge at the time when the product was put into circulation.The Committee of Permanent Representatives is at present discussing certain fundamental questions arising from the draft including the question of a "state of the art" defence. When these questions have been resolved we expect the Council working party to resume its detailed examination of the draft.

Weights And Measures Inspectors

asked the Minister for Trade, pursuant to the reply of 24 February, Official Report, column 381, to the hon. Member for Bury St. Edmunds, approximately what percentage of the £30·25 per hour plus travel expenses which he intends to charge for weights and measures inspectors examining weighing machines arises from each of the following categories of staff costs: (a) support staff, (b) accommodation costs, (c) telephone and stationery, (d) materials and consumable stores, (e) depreciation and interest charges on fixed capital etc. as well as a share of the general departmental overheads.

The Government are still considering certain aspects of these charges and I shall give my hon. Friend further information as soon as possible.

Liquidations

asked the Minister for Trade how many firms in (a) West Yorkshire, (b) Greater Manchester and (c) England went into liquidation in 1979, 1980 and 1981; and if he will make a statement.

I regret that figures of company liquidations are not available by area nor for England separately. Following are the numbers of bankruptcies. The figures cover all individuals and partnerships but, for England and Wales as a whole, the self-employed account for between 75 and 80 per cent. of the total.

197919801981
West Yorkshire96126161
Greater Manchester148179238
England2,9673,4214,438

Argentina (Exports)

asked the Minister for Trade, following the United Kingdom ban on trade with Argentina and the decision of other countries of the European Economic Community to resume trading with Argentina, how goods exported from Argentina to countries of the European Community will be prevented from being re-exported to the United Kingdom.

The origin of goods imported into the United Kingdom from other member States of the European Community has to be disclosed in the Customs entry document. Since 7 April all imports of goods exported from Argentina have required the authority of import licences issued by my Department. In order to obtain licences traders have been required to prove that the goods were en route for the United Kingdom before midnight on 6 April. This position remains unchanged. Customs enforce these import licence requirements regardless of the country of consignment whether or not the goods are in free circulation. Our community partners are aware of our intention to retain our national measures against Argentina for the time being.

Trade Statistics

asked the Minister for Trade if he will publish a table showing the profit or deficit in manufacturing trade with other countries of the European Economic Community and the rest of the world, respectively, over the most recent six-monthly period for which figures are available; and if he will provide comparable figures for the same periods in each of the previous 20 years.

[pursuant to his reply, 24 June 1982, c. 168]: Figures prior to 1970 could be produced only at disproportionate cost. For subsequent years the balances of trade in manufactures are given in the table.

United Kingdom Balance of Trade in Manufactures

With other countries of the EC

With the rest of the World

£ million

£ million

October 1970 to March 1971+162+1,016
October 1971 to March 1972+70+1,221
October 1972 to March 1973-79+1,065
October 1973 to March 1974-379+707
October 1974 to March 1975-411+2,264
October 1975 to March 1976-214+2,250
October 1976 to March 1977-455+2,522
October 1977 to March 1978-804+3,153
October 1978 to March 1979-1,405+2,372
October 1979 to March 1980-1,616+2,238
October 1980 to March 1981-494+3,064
October 1981 to March 1982-2,131+3,297

Source:- Overseas Trade Statistics (1981 Basis).

Citizens Band Radio

asked the Minister for Trade what steps he is taking to advise purchasers of citizens' band equipment which is imported in a substandard or dangerous condition, or to restrict imports of such equipment in such condition; and if, in particular, his attention has been drawn to the products of the Phihong Manufacturing Organisation of Taiwan in this connection.

[pursuant to his reply, 25 June 1982, c. 202.]: Following action by my Department, purchasers of citizen band equipment have already been warned about dangerous imports, including Phihong units, by the trading standards departments of local authorities in whose areas these goods have been sold. Warnings have also appeared in most national newspapers and on television programmes such as Nationwide and Thames television news. Suppliers of Phihong citizen band equipment are being prosecuted by the Greater Manchester Council; other local authorities are also considering prosecution. I hope that most supplies of dangerous CB equipment have now been removed from the market. The Consumer Safety Act does not contain a power to prohibit unsafe imports but it is an offence to supply within the United Kingdom any goods that do not comply with safety regulations.

Spain

asked the Minister for Trade what is the import duty imposed by Spain on the import of forgings and tools into that country; and what are the figures for imports into the United Kingdom from Spain.

[pursuant to his reply, 18 June 1982, c. 209.]: Forgings having the character of a finished article—the vast majority—are classified for Customs purposes as that article and not separately as forgings. It follows that no separate trade statistics for forgings are available, and that the rates of import duty are those for the finished articles. Examples of Spanish duties on imports from European Community countries are 16·3 per cent. for engine parts—CCCN 84.06 D II b—and between 16·3 and 18·7 per cent. for transmission shafts, crankshafts, gearboxes, and so on—CCCN 84.63.Spanish import duties on tools—CCCN 82—from European Community countries vary between 0·75 per cent. and 17·6 per cent.; most lie between 9·9 per cent. and 14·3 per cent. In 1980 the United Kingdom imported tools worth £4·2 million from Spain.

asked the Minister for Trade if he will publish a table showing the United Kingdom's balance of trade with Spain for each year since 1965.

[pursuant to his reply, 28 June 1982, c. 209.]: The available information is as follows:

United Kingdom Crude Balance of Trade with Spain, 1966–80
(£ million)
1966+36
1967+ 13
1968-1
1969+21
1970+ 18
1971+ 19
1972+ 38
1973-5
1974-3
1975+23
1976-1
1977+ 28
1978-35
1979-138
1980-102

Source:

Overseas Trade Statistics/ Annual Statements of Trade of the United Kingdom.

Notes:

1. Crude balance: exports valued fob less imports valued cif.

2. Figures include trade with the Canary Islands and, for years 1970–80 only, Ceuta and Melilla.

3. Those for 1970 onwards are on the current 1981 statistical basis and are not directly comparable with the figures for earlier years.

asked the Minister for Trade whether he has had discussions with his colleagues in the European Economic Community about requiring Spain to reduce its import duties on forgings and tools to levels similar to those imposed by the European Economic Community or, conversely, raising import duties on Spanish goods to an equivalent level to those imposed by Spain; and if he will make a statement.

[pursuant to his reply, 28 June 1982, c. 209.]: The present disparity of tariffs is in accordance with the agreement of 1970; I refer the hon. Member to my answer to her question for 28 June 1982.

asked the Minister for Trade what progress is being made to renegotiate the trading agreement signed between Spain and the European Economic Community in 1970 which gave Spain preferential treatment.

[pursuant to his reply, 28 June 1982, c. 210.]: The most effective remedy to the current imbalance of trading opportunity between the Community and Spain will be Spain's early accession to the Community. Negotiations to this end are in progress; there are no separate negotiations to revise the 1970 agreement.

Antigua And Barbados (Tourism)

asked the Minister for Trade (1) how many flights into Antigua from the United Kingdom will operate each week; and whether there have been consultations with the Government of Antigua about the effects of this on their tourist industry;(2) why the application of the Government of Antigua to operate flights by British West Indian Airways between the United Kingdom and Antigua and Barbados has been refused;

(3) what consultations were held with tour operators and travel agents in the United Kingdom before the number of flights to Antigua was reduced; and what representations he has had from Antigua since the changes were made.

[pursuant to his reply, 28 June 1982, c. 210.]: British Airways have operated twice a week with Boeing 747 aircraft between London and Antigua since April 1981. The frequency of BA services is a matter for the airline, but I understand that before reducing from three to two flights a week BA did consult United Kingdom travel agents and tour operators.At a meeting on 9 June the Minister without Portfolio of Antigua and Barbuda, whose responsibilities cover tourism, represented to me that existing air services between the United Kingdom and Antigua were insufficient for Antigua's growing tourist needs. I repeated an offer made by my Department last November, that Trinidad and Tobago—British West Indian Airways International—Airways could pick up passengers at Antigua on their twice weekly services to London from Port of Spain and Barbados, or replace either of these services by a Port of Spain-Antigua-London service. That offer remains on the table.I have also drawn the attention of British Airways to the concerns of the Government of Antigua and Barbuda. I understand that British Airways will be prepared to increase capacity between London and Antigua if they can be satisfied that the demand exists.

Tourism (Financial Assistance)

asked the Minister for Trade if he will now announce his proposals for giving financial assistance through tourist boards, in accordance with section 4 of the Development of Tourism Act 1969; and if he will make a statement.

[pursuant to his reply, 28 June 1982, c. 211]: The Government have decided that from 1 August 1982 suitable projects throughout England, Scotland and Wales will be eligible for consideration for selective aid. An announcement on the detailed arrangements will be made as soon as possible.

Allied Supplies Ltd

asked the Minister for Trade whether, in the light of his answers to the right hon. Member for Manchester, Wythenshawe of 21 June, Official Report, c. 3, and 27 May, Official Report, c. 360, concerning the decision not to refer to the Monopolies and Mergers Commission the bid for Allied Supplies Ltd. his right hon. and noble Friend the Secretary of State will make it his policy to announce such decisions, SO far as is possible, to Parliament before they are announced elsewhere.

[pursuant to his reply, 28 June 1982, c. 211.]: No. It is policy to announce such decisions at the opening of business on the Stock Exchange. Present arrangements ensure that as many interested parties as possible are informed at the same time. Nevertheless, I regret that my reply of 27 May failed to make it clear that an announcement of my right hon. and noble Friend's decision not to refer the bid for Allied Supplies Ltd. to the Commission had been made on that day.

Solicitor-General For Scotland

Dundee Small Claims Scheme

asked the Solicitor-General for Scotland if he will report on the outcome of the Dundee small claims scheme; and whether he has any proposals for permanent introduction of easier and cheaper small claims procedures.

The central research unit of the Scottish Office is at present compiling its final report on the operation of the Dundee small claims experiment. It would be unwise to make any proposals relating to small claims procedure before all interested parties have had an opportunity to study an analyse this report.

National Finance

Value Added Tax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the cost of collecting value added tax in the most recent year for which figures are available; and what percentage of the revenue this represented.

The cost of VAT administration in 1980–81, the latest year for which figures are available, was £128·8 million. This equalled 1·2 per cent. of the revenue collected.

Argentina (Imports)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what rules will be followed by Her Majesty's Customs and Excise in preventing the import of goods from the Argentine following the decision of the EEC to resume trading with Argentina.

Her Majesty's Customs and Excise will continue to enforce the import prohibition on goods from Argentina which is provided under national legislation and which is unaffected by the EEC decision.

Stamp Duty

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the revenue from stamp duty on the purchase or sale of share contracts (a) under £100, (b) under £200 and (c) under £500.

[pursuant to his reply, 25 June 1982, c. 190]: I regret that the information is not available.

Civil Service

Departmental Support Services

asked the Minister for the Civil Service what progress has been made with the review of supporting services in Government research and development establishments announced on 25 February 1981; and if he will make a statement.

The examining officers in Departments have now reported to their Ministers. Sir Derek Rayner has presented my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister and my right hon. and noble Friend the Lord Privy Seal with a report on the wider management issues. His report is being published today.

The results of the review are important. The examining officers proposed changes in the provision of supporting services to save at least £15 million a year in today's prices, including 1,500 posts, while continuing with our essential scientific research programmes. Once and for all savings recommended are worth about £7 million in today's prices. Sir Derek Rayner's report proposes a new management regime for the establishments to give Ministers better information about value for money from research projects, to provide clearer authority and accountability for the directors of research establishments, and to set up improved control systems. The review has cost about £350,000.

The review has demonstrated the importance and success of the Government's efficiency strategy. By combining the scrutiny approach with more traditional methods such as work measurement the review has produced significant lessons and shown that substantial improvements are possible in areas where previous approaches have failed to exploit the full potential for improving efficiency. Departments are continuing this new approach through a number of resource control reviews co-ordinated by the Management and Personnel Office.

Ministers in charge of Departments will be pursuing the recommendations and producing action documents. They will also consider how the recommendations can be applied to areas of support in R & D establishments not covered by the review. The Management and Personnel Office will aim to ensure that the optimum value is extracted from the general lessons of the review. My right hon. and noble Friend the Lord Privy Seal and I are grateful to the staff who, under the guidance of Sir Derek Rayner and the Management and Personnel Office, have produced these excellent results.

Energy

Coal Production

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what he estimates will be the revised United Kingdom coal production figures for the years 1985, 1990, 1995 and 2000, respectively.

Any estimate of coal output made for several years ahead is subject to great uncertainty because it depends on a great number of factors. It must take into account the likely level of coal demand together with the level of coal costs and prices, both in the United Kingdom and overseas.As I have already indicated to the House I shall shortly be publishing a revised set of energy projections, and these considerations will form an integral part of the analysis.

Charities (Electricity Charges)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will introduce legislation to provide that electricity boards shall charge charitable groups with premises for the electricity they receive on a domestic rather than on a commercial tariff.

No. The electricity tariffs applied to particular classes of consumer should reflect the costs of supplying each class, and existing legislation already provides for this.

Plutonium

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what changes, if any, have been made, or are about to be made, to the agreement entered into with the Central Electricity Generating Board, when Anglesey Aluminium smelter was established, concerning the transfer of plutonium from Dungeness 'B' power station to the Department of Energy; and if he will make a statement on future policy on this matter, with particular regard to the effects on fuel costs for Anglesey Aluminium and on the control over plutonium produced at Central Electricity Generating Board owned reactors.

Discussions are taking place with the board about the arrangements that would be necessary to transfer the Government's share of the plutonium to it. Any such transfer would have no effect on the position of Anglesey Aluminium. The board would then have full control over all plutonium produced in its reactors.

Tidal Power

asked the Secretary of State for Energy why his Department's recently published "Summary of Advice on the Research and Development Programme on Renewable Energy Sources" made no mention of tidal power.

Tidal power is being treated separately in the light of the Bondi report.

Industry

Boiler Conversion Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many applications have been made for grant aid under the conversion from oil to coal burning boiler scheme; how many have been approved; and what has been the total amount of grants paid since the inception of the scheme.

Net Direct Investment*in the United Kingdom, other than oil, excluding retained profits.
per cent. of total/(£ million)
Manufacturing per cent.Services per cent.Total per cent.Total Value £ million
United States of America
1978116·8-26·5100·0233·6
1979-34·9136·7100·0111·0
198060·539·4100·01,021·6
Japan
19784·395·7100·0-21·1
1979-5·7105·7100·028·3
1980-12·4112·4100·0-19·4
* Investment can be negative as it is measured net of disinvestment and of loans made by United Kingdom affiliates to their overseas direct investors.
† Includes distribution, transport, shipping, hotels, property, banking, insurance, financial and other services.
‡ Total includes manufacturing and services plus agriculture and mining and quarrying.
≑ Manufacturing investment was positive in 1980 but percentage was negative because total investment was negative.

Assisted Areas

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will list by category those travel-to-work areas in Great Britain which will be assisted areas from 1 August 1982.

By 24 June, 126 applications for grant assistance under the coal firing scheme had been received; 91 offers of grant sent; and grant payments totalling £124,744 made.

Loan Guarantee Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many loans have been guaranteed to date under the loan guarantee scheme; what is the total value of such loans; how many guarantees have been called upon, with the total value; what plans he has for extending or ending the scheme; and if he will make a statement.

By 31 May 1982, the most recent date for which figures are available, 4,440 guarantees had been issued in respect of £149·1 million of bank lending. To date 35 claims have been paid under the terms of the Government's guarantee, to a total value of £752,033. A number of further claims are being processed. My preliminary review of the scheme is nearing completion, but at present there are no plans to introduce significant changes. The future of the scheme will be considered in the light of continuing monitoring and appraisal of its operation.

United States And Japan (Inward Investment)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what proportion of (a) United States and (b) Japanese new inward investment, excluding retained profits and so on in the United Kingdom in each of the past three years was allocated to manufacturing production in the United Kingdom; how much to the service and distribution of imports, and how much to service industries.

I have been asked to reply.The figures for the latest available three years are as follows. Separate figures relating to only the service and distribution of imports are not available.

Special Development Areas*

  • Arbroath
  • Ayr
  • Bargoed
  • Birkenhead
  • Consett
  • Cumnock
  • Dumbarton
  • Dundee
  • Ebbw Vale
  • Falmouth
  • Glasgow
  • Greenock†
  • Hartlepool
  • Holyhead
  • Irvine†
  • Kilmarnock
  • Lanark
  • Liverpool
  • North Lanarkshire
  • North Tyne
  • Paisley
  • Peterlee
  • Pontypridd‡
  • Port Talbot
  • Redruth
  • Sanquhar
  • Shotton
  • South Tyne
  • Teeside
  • Wearside
  • Widnes
  • Wrexham

Development Areas

  • Aberdare
  • Bathgate≑
  • Blaenau Ffestiniog
  • Blairgowrie
  • Bodmin
  • Bude
  • Caernarvon
  • Camelford
  • Campbeltown
  • Cardiff
  • Cardigan
  • Central Durham
  • Corby
  • Dingwall
  • Dunfermline
  • Dunoon
  • Falkirk
  • Dishguard
  • Fort William
  • Girvan
  • Grimsby
  • Helston
  • Hull
  • Ilfracombe
  • Inverness
  • Kirkaldy≑
  • Lampeter
  • Launceston
  • Liskeard
  • Llanelli
  • Lochgilphead
  • Methyr Tydfil
  • Mexborough
  • Morpeth
  • Milford Haven
  • Neath
  • Newport
  • Newton Stewart
  • Newquay
  • Oban
  • Pembroke Dock
  • Penzance
  • Plymouth
  • Pontypool
  • Portree
  • Pwllheli
  • Rochdale
  • Rossendale
  • Rotherham
  • Rothesay
  • Rhyl
  • St. Austell
  • St. Helens
  • St. Ives
  • Scunthorpe
  • Stornoway
  • Stranraer
  • Thurso
  • Truro
  • Wadebridge
  • Whitehaven
  • Wick
  • Wigan
  • Workington

Intermediate Areas

  • Alnwick
  • Anstruther
  • Barnsley
  • Barnstaple
  • Bideford
  • Blackpool
  • Bolton
  • Bradford
  • Bridlington
  • Castle Douglas
  • Darlington and South West Durham
  • Dartmouth
  • Denbigh
  • Doncaster
  • Forres
  • Gainsborough
  • Goole
  • Kingsbridge
  • Kirkwall
  • Lancaster
  • Leigh
  • Lerwich
  • Llandudno
  • Llangollen
  • Llanrwst
  • Mablethorpe
  • Maltby
  • Monmouth
  • Nairn
  • Northwich
  • Richmond
  • Scarborough
  • Skegness
  • Southport
  • Stirling
  • Swansea¶
  • Tenby
  • Torbay
  • Whitby

Notes:

* Skelmersdale New Town will retain Special Development Area Status.

† The Isles of Cumbrae, within the Greenock TTWA and the Isle of Arran within the Irvine Travel-to-Work-Area will have Development Area status.

‡ In the Pontypridd Travel-to-Work-Area the employment office areas of Treorchy, Ferndale, and Ports (Tonypandy) will remain Special Development Areas whilst the employment office area of Pontypridd, Llantrisant and Tonyrefail will remain Develpment Areas.

≑ The New Towns of Livingston and Glenrothes in the Bathgate and Kirkaldy Travel-to-Work-Area respectively will retain Special Development Area status.

¶ In the Swansea Travel-to-Work-Area the employment office areas of Pontardawe and Ystradgynlais will have Development Area status and the employment office area of Gorsenon, Morriston and Swansea will have Intermediate Area status.

West Midlands (Aid)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether, having regard to the levels of unemployment in the West Midlands, he will now consider the introduction of special area status so as to provide the West Midlands area with extra financial aid equivalent to that enjoyed by other regions with comparable levels of unemployment.

[pursuant to his reply, 28 June 1982, c. 215]: I refer the right hon. Member to my right hon. Friend's statement yesterday to the House on regional industrial policy.

Education And Science

Teachers (Training Costs)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what are the latest figures for the average cost of training a secondary school teacher.

Most trainee secondary teachers take one-year courses leading to the postgraduate certificate of education, having first completed a degree course. Others take three or four-year courses leading to the Bachelor of Education. There is a wide variation in costs and these costs are not precisely distinguishable within higher education. However the average gross institutional cost, including the first degree for PGCE students, of training a secondary teacher at 1980–81 outturn prices is estimated to be in the region of £15,000.

School Meals

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what are the latest figures for the number of pupils taking school meals and receiving free school meals, respectively; and what were the comparable figures for 1979.

I refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave on 20 April to the hon. Member for Cannock (Mr. Roberts).—[20 April 1982, c. 113.]

A-Level Examinations

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what information he has about the social class of the families of pupils successful in A-level examinations.

Numbers Unemployed
South GlamorganMid GlamorganWest GlamorganGwentDyfedPowysGwyneddClwyd
1979
January14,40716,70912,54715,9689,6561,7887,84313,569
April13,06715,50312,04814,5818,3371,5597,05312,070
July13,66018,11413,75316,7008,0921,5566,49912,897
October12,80416,23012,99215,0348,4951,4126,88311,966
1980
January13,55517,10613,37815,6249,3561,7337,66212,450
April13,97518,32213,76516,8679,3431,7027,22716,156
July16,65023,63517,28920,73310,4032,1447,70018,285
October17,91125,14220,87923,01912,2812,2559,01518,612
1981
January19,95028,19423,30525,12914,2112,60610,83421,329
April20,56728,22023,54625,83914,0352,86510,71021,798
July22,80731,07226,19129,07115,6703,06410,46322,769
October24,39432,34026,94829,87417,1943,20812,18023,912
1982
January24,34734,00927,72830,28717,3833,75813,44925,219
April24,18432,81527,48130,27316,8423,48112,33823,935

This information will take time to prepare, and I shall write to the hon. Member.

Teachers

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many graduate and non-graduate teachers have been unemployed for periods of more than three months in each of the last five years for which figures are available; what is the percentage increase or decrease for each group over that period and what were the number of people entering training as teachers during each of these years.

The first two parts of the question would be matters for my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Employment. However, his Department has confirmed that the information is not available. Figures for admissions to courses of initial training in England and Wales for the past five academic years are:

Numbers
1976–7730,951
1977–7821,968
1978–7919,971
1979–8019,521
1980–8118,228

Wales

Unemployment Statistics

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many persons were registered as unemployed for each of the counties of Wales for January, April, July and October for each of the years 1979, 1980 and 198 l and for January and April 1982.

National Health Service (Dispute)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what representations he has received about industrial action in hospitals in Wales; and if he will make a statement.

I have received one letter, on behalf of chairmen of health authorities in Wales; I share their concern at the effect industrial action is having on the Health Service.

Teachers

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is the present number of qualified teachers registered as unemployed in Wales; what were the corresponding figures for the past 10 years; and if he will a statement.

The latest available information relates to March 1982 and is as follows:

Qualified teachers registered as unemployed
Numbers
March 19821,566
March 19811,067
March 1980882
March 1979906
March 1978835
March 1977452
March 1976290
March 1975121
March 1974115
March 1973145
Note: The category includes secondary, primary, pre-primary and special education teachers.

Engineer Park Industrial Estate, Deeside

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will list the companies now operative on Engineer Park industrial estate, Deeside, Clwyd; how many jobs are provided; what has been the total cost of development of the site by the Welsh Development Agency; what is the total number of proposed advance factories on the site, let and unlet, completed and in process of erection; how many jobs are expected to be provided; how many workers are at present employed in the park; and if he will make a statement.

I have asked the Welsh Development Agency to provide the information to the hon. Member.

Home Department

Firemen (Personal Accident Insurance)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what are the requirements on local authorities for the provision of personal accident insurance for firemen in their employment.

There are no requirements on fire authorities to provide personal accident insurance for firemen. In the event of a fireman's retirement or death caused by an injury on duty fire authorities are required to meet the statutory entitlements of firemen or their dependents under the Firemen's Pension Scheme 1973.

European Assembly (Members' Pensions And Payments)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department to what extent Members of the European Assembly receive pensions and redundancy payments; and whether British Members of Parliament who are also Members of the Assembly are able to claim dual pension and redundancy payments.

Pension and severance arrangements for Members of the European Parliament are a matter for individual member States. United Kingdom MEPs belong to a pension scheme which is in most respects the same as that for hon. Members. Under this scheme, an MEP who is at the same time a Member of Parliament earns one-third the pension of an MEP who is not also a Member of Parliament. This reflects the difference in the respective salaries payable to them. The pension entitlements of Members of Parliament are not, however, affected by membership of the European Parliament.No severance arrangements analogous to those for Members of Parliament are extended to United Kingdom Members of the European Parliament.

Traffic Offences

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) how many convictions there were for dangerous driving in England and Wales in each of the past five years;(2) how many people were convicted of traffic associated offences in each of the past five years.

The information available for the years 1971–80 is published in table 5 of Home Office Statistical Bulletin No. 23/81 "Offences relating to motor vehicles England and Wales 1980", a copy of which has been placed in the Library of the House. Information for 1981 is not yet available.

Young Voters

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he intends to take any steps to encourage younger voters to exercise their rights to vote.

As part of an advertising campaign later this year, timed to coincide with the canvass for the next electoral register, the young voter will be asked to ensure that his or her name is included in the electoral registration return, as a prerequisite to voting.

Sex Discrimination

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will consider seeking to amend section 29 of the Sex Discrimination Act in order to make it unlawful for mixed clubs to discriminate against members of one sex.

We are already considering such an amendment, which has been put to us, together with several other proposed amendments to the Sex Discrimination Act 1975 and the Equal Pay Act 1970, by the Equal Opportunities Commission; but we cannot say when it might be possible to introduce legislation which would take account of any of these proposals.

Police (Personal Accident Insurance)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, pursuant to the reply to the hon. and learned Member for Burton (Mr. Lawrence) on 28 May, Official Report, c. 433, what progress has been made in exploring the possiblity of improving the compensation payable under the police pension scheme for death or incapacitating injury sustained on duty.

The possibility of improving the compensation payable under the police pension scheme for death or incapacitating injury sustained on duty is being considered by the Police Negotiating Board.

Deportation

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many cases his Department has on record where a man recommended for deportation from the United Kingdom has subsequently evaded that decision by marrying a woman born in the United Kingdom who would have had to follow him to his country of origin to maintain the marriage.

I regret that the information is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many men from the New Commonwealth, recommended for deportation by the authorities, have subsequently been allowed to remain as a result of an appeal decision, or as a result of a ministerial decision, over the past five years.

Information in the form requested is not readily available. Information about recommendations for deportation under the Immigration Act 1971 in respect of all Commonwealth citizens is as follows:

19771978197919801981
Court Recommendations496417404437350
Successful Appeals to the courts822262214
Deportation orders made329246250288326
Deportation orders enforced246223196232265
Decisions not to deport8954694440

Note: The total number of court recommendations in any given year does not coincide with the number of deportation orders made and enforced in that year, as, in many cases, a prison sentence is served before the deportation is effected.

Prisons

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he has completed his consideration of the proposals made by Her Majesty's Chief Inspector of Prisons for England and Wales in his report for 1981.

The position of the Government on the main issues raised in the report of Her Majesty's Chief Inspector and the action being taken to resolve them is set out in the foreword to the report. Consideration of the report's detailed proposals has now been completed and I am placing in the Library of the House a commentary by the prison department on each of the points raised by Her Majesty's Chief Inspector.

Entry Applications (Financial Qualification)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, pursuant to his reply of 17 June, Official Report, c. 315, how often the sum, presently £100.000, referred to as the minimum level of capital normally necessary for an applicant seeking entry as a person of independent means, is reviewed; what factors are taken into account in fixing the appropriate sum; and what form of proof is normally required and to cover what period.

The minimum level of capital normally necessary for an applicant to come here as a person of independent means is revised from time to time. The present figure of £100,000 was introduced in Immigration Rules laid before Parliament on 20 February 1980. The figure is laid down as an indication of the minimum sum expected of an applicant who is to be able to maintain himself and his dependants indefinitely without working or recourse to public funds. Any suitable documentary evidence is acceptable as proof that the financial requirements are met but there is no time limit: the applicant is expected to rely on his own resources indefinitely.

Immigration Service Union

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if it is intended to give bargaining recognition to the new Immigration Service Union; and if he will make a statement.

The Immigration Service Union has submitted a claim for recognition at departmental and national level in respect of Immigration Service grades. This is being considered.

Royal Commission On Criminal Procedure

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what are his proposals for legislation on part I of the report of the Royal Commission on criminal procedure.

As I said in the House on 25 March—[Vol. 20, c. 11181—Parliament has a duty to ensure both that the police are provided with the legal powers they need and that those powers are accompanied by due safeguards for the citizen. Last year I produced a consultative memorandum on the Royal Commission's report generally, and as a result of considering the response I seek to carry the process of consultation further by preparing, as recommended by the Royal Commission, two draft codes of practice with a view to legislation. The first deals with the questioning of persons suspected of crime and their treatment if in police custody, and would supersede the Judges' Rules; and the second with identification parades and other identification procedures. We have placed copies in the Library and will be sending others to the same wide range of bodies who received the consultative memorandum last year. In addition, copies will be available on request from Room 528, Home Office, 50 Queen Anne's Gate, London SW1H 9AT.The legislation I intend, subject to the availability of resources, to bring before the House would be accompanied by draft codes of practice, revised as necessary in the light of the consultations, so that Parliament may be aware of the duties I would propose to lay on the police in consequence of the legislation.

I hope that these draft codes will assist the process of discussion as well as emphasise the extent to which the Government are committed to striking a balance between the interests of society in bringing offenders to justice and the rights of individuals suspected of crime. I hope also that the steps I have in mind will be regarded as being for the convenience of the House. I am above all anxious that there should be a fully informed public debate on these difficult issues and that, as a result, the House will feel the more prepared to scrutinise my proposals when I am able to bring them before it.

Prime Minister

Engagements

Q5.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 29 June.

Q6.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 29 June.

Q7.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for 29 June.

Q8.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 29 June.

Q9.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 29 June.

Q10.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 29 June.

Q12.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 29 June.

Q13.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 29 June.

Q15.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 29 June.

Q16.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 29 June.

Q17.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 29 June.

Q18.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 29 June.

Q19.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 29 June.

Q21.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 29 June.

Q22.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 29 June.

Q23.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 29 June.

Q24.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 29 June.

Q25.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 29 June.

Q26.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 29 June.

Q27.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 29 June.

Q28.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 29 June.

Q29.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 29 June.

Q30.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 29 June.

Q32.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for 29 June.

Q33.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 29 June.

Q34.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 29 June.

Q35.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 29 June.

Q36.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 29 June.

Q37.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 29 June.

Q38.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 29 June.

Q40.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 29 June.

Q41.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 29 June.

Q42.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 29 June.

Q43.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 29 June.

Q44.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 29 June.

Q45.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 29 June.

Q46.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 29 June.

Q47.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 29 June.

Q48.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 29 June.

Q49.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 29 June.

Q50.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 29 June.

This morning I attended a meeting of the European Council in Brussels. In addition to my duties in the House I shall be having further meetings later today.

Trades Union Congress

Q11.

asked the Prime Minister when she last met the leaders of the Trades Union Congress.

Local Authority Services (Privatisation)

Q14.

asked the Prime Minister what Government policy is towards the privatisation of local authority managed refuse collecting and other municipally employed labour activities.

Our policy continues to be to encourage local authorities to provide services by the most economical and cost-effective means available, including the use of private sector contractors where this presents the best option.

Fishing Industry

Q20.

asked the Prime Minister if she will tour the areas of the United Kingdom dependent on the fishing industry.

I have at present no plans to make such a tour though I have visited a number of areas where the fishing industry is long established.

Maud (East Aberdeenshire)

Q31.

asked the Prime Minister if she will make an official visit to the village of Maud in the East Aberdeenshire constituency.

Falkland Islands

Q39.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will make a further statement on the Falkland Islands.

We have received no official confirmation of reports in the Argentine press that Argentina is ready to agree to a complete cessation of hostilities, though that would be a very welcome development.The civil commissioner has now provided us with his assessment of conditions in Port Stanley, where the major rehabilitation requirement appears likely to lie. The Armed Services have already done extremely valuable work in the emergency restoration of most essential services. The civil commissioner has given us his list of high priorities, which is receiving immediate attention.

Defence

Defence Policy

11.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if, in the light of recent military events, he will review defence policy so as to give greater priority to conventional defence and less to the development and deployment of nuclear weapons.

The strategic nuclear deterrent, which successive Governments have retained and strengthened as the ultimate safeguard of the peace and the liberty of our people, accounts for only a very small proportion of the defence budget. No alternative use of these funds could possibly contribute as much to our security, and I have no plans to reduce expenditure in this vital area.

Equipment Procurement

15.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what reappraisal of equipment procurement he has undertaken following the Falkland Islands conflict.

The process of evaluating the lessons to be learned from the Falklands operation is already well under way but it would be premature for me to make a statement on this subject until we have had an opportunity to examine fully all aspects of the crisis. We shall then be in a position to take reasoned and considered decisions on what adjustments need to be made to the defence programme.

Gibraltar Dockyard

17.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if it is his intention to make use of the facilities at the Gibraltar dockyard for the repairing and refitting of vessels which will be returning from the task force in the South Atlantic.

We intend to use the facilities at Gibraltar dockyard for the repair or refit of some naval vessels, for example, Royal Fleet Auxiliaries, when they can be released from their current duties in the South Atlantic.

Falkland Islands

20.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will estimate the total extra expenditure involved in the Falklands task force and of maintaining a force of aircraft, Rapiers, submarines and ships there for the remainder of the current financial year.

32.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will now state the cost of the battle of the Falklands.

I refer the hon. Gentleman and my hon. Friend to the answer I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Norwood (Mr. Fraser).

36.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement about the defence of the Falkland Islands and dependencies.

I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Berwick-upon-Tweed, (Mr. Beith) and other hon. Members.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many Service personnel who had been served with redundancy notices were either killed or wounded in recent operations in the South Atlantic and Falkland Islands.

About 50 naval personnel serving with the task force are expected to leave the Service under redundancy terms; almost all of these have volunteered to do so.None of these were killed; two naval ratings who had volunteered for redundancy were wounded. No redundancy notices have been issued to any Army or RAF personnel.

Gurkha Soldiers

21.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement about the current and proposed level of Service pensions for Gurkha soldiers.

The 1981 review of pensions for Gurkha soldiers resulted in significant percentage increases, and current levels are considered satisfactory. They will be reviewed and adjusted annually.

Surface Fleet

22.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he has any plans to reduce the vulnerability of the surface fleet.

23.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he has any plans to improve the Royal Navy's ability to cope with surface skimming missiles and over-the-horizon low-flying hostile aircraft.

As indicated in the foreword to the Defence White Paper (Cmnd. 8529) we shall be taking full account of the experience gained as a result of recent operations in the South Atlantic. In the meantime, plans are already in hand to fit all type 22 frigates on build or at refit with an improved version of the Sea Wolf missile system designed to enhance its low-level capabilities. HMS "Illustrious" has also been fitted with a close-in rapid fire gun system. A programme of improvements to passive defence systems is also in hand.

Localised Nuclear Warfare

24.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether any consideration has been given to the possibility and the strategy of a localised nuclear war confined to Europe in discussions with representatives of the Pentagon and Supreme Headquarters Allied Command Europe.

No. NATO's primary aim is to prevent war by the strategy of deterrence. For deterrence to be effective a potential aggressor must be persuaded that if subjected to attack NATO would be willing to use its weapons, conventional or nuclear, but we have no plans to fight a limited nuclear war in Europe or anywhere else. In such a war there could be no winners.

Falkland Islands (Vessel Replacement)

25.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he has now reached a decision on whether he will replace the ships lost during the Falkland Islands fighting.

42.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will make a statement on the replacement of Her Majesty's ships lost during the Falklands conflict.

I have nothing to add at this stage to the answer given to my hon. Friend the Member for Haltemprice (Sir P. Wall) on 11 June 1982.—[Vol. 25, c. 171.]

Vulcan Aircraft

26.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what consideration he has given to varying the date when Vulcan aircraft are taken out of service with the Royal Air Force.

Vulcan aircraft have been used in the conventional role during the operations in the South Atlantic. The timing of the rundown of the force is now under consideration.

Nato (United Kingdom Role)

27.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he intends to propose any changes in the United Kingdom role in, and contribution to, the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation as a result of the Falklands conflict.

There are defence lessons to be learnt from the Falklands crisis and in the coming months we shall be working to identify the key issues. However, I expect the overall shape of Britain's role in, and contribution to, the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation to remain unchanged.

Trident

28.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what were the reasons for the decrease in the proposed participation by British industry in the Trident missile project; and if he will make a statement about remaining British industrial opportunities.

There is no question of a decrease. The position remains, as announced by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Defence on 11 March 1982, that United Kingdom firms will be allowed to compete on the same terms as United States industry for sub-contracts for the weapon system components for the programme as a whole.—[Vol. 19, c. 975.]

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will attempt to negotiate an offset agreement in connection with the purchase of the Trident missile system to supplement the provision already made for tendering by British sub-contractors.

No. The existing arrangements allow United Kingdom firms to compete on equal terms with their United States counterparts for work to meet both United States and United Kingdom requirements for the missile system. There can be no question, given the strategic importance of the system, of guaranteeing United Kingdom industry a specific proportion of the work, and firms must win orders on merit. Outside the Trident programme, the two-way street arrangements continue to provide wide ranging opportunities for United Kingdom industry to compete for other United States defence business. Recent successes on Hawk, AV8B and Rapier indicate that United Kingdom firms are making the most of these opportunities.

Nimrod Airborne Early Warning System Aircraft

29.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many Nimrod airborne early warning system aircraft have been ordered; when they will be delivered; and whether he is satisfied that there will be sufficient to provide continuous long-range radar coverage in any theatre.

Eleven aircraft have been ordered; deliveries are expected to begin in 1983, and to be completed in 1986; their primary role will be to contribute to NATO's airborne early warning force, particularly in the United Kingdom air defence region, although the aircraft will have the capability to operate elsewhere.

Point Defence System

30.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what has been the total expenditure to date on the development and fitting of point defence systems in Her Majesty's ships.

The total expenditure to date on developing and fitting such systems has been about £300 million.

Damage Control (Training)

31.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he is satisfied with the arrangements for future training in damage control within the Royal Navy.

Yes, damage control training in the Royal Navy is kept under constant review to maintain the exceptionally high standards that the Navy has always demanded.

South Atlantic (Security)

34.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he has any plans to meet the Defence Minister of the Republic of South Africa to discuss security in the South Atlantic.

Royal Navy (Strength And Role)

35.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the effect of the Falklands crisis on plans for the future strength of the Royal Navy.

The primary role of the Royal Navy remains the preservation of the security of the United Kingdom and NATO against the threat posed by the Warsaw Pact. In addition the Royal Navy will retain a capability to contribute to the preservation of our interests outside the NATO area. As my right hon. Friend, the Secretary of State for Defence has said, we shall be considering over the coming months whether any adjustments or change of emphasis are needed to the Royal Navy's future programme within the overall framework announced last year. In the meantime, we shall replace all the equipment lost by the Services in the Falkland Islands conflict—not necessarily on a like for like basis—from funds which will be in addition to the 3 per cent. annual rate of real growth. We shall be considering this replacement programme in the next few months with a view to placing major orders by the end of the year.

Nato (Defence Planning And Procurement)

37.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will initiate discussions with the French Minister of Defence on the possibilities of intensifying co-operation on defence planning and procurement between the European members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation.

I met M. Hernu in April this year when we discussed the European contribution to alliance security, and a range of other subjects. I expect us to continue such discussions at future meetings.

Weapons And Spare Parts (Illegal Sales)

38.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will bring forward proposals for international control of the illegal sale of weapons and spare parts therefor.

A United Nations study into conventional weapons will commence in July this year which will cover all aspects of arms sales. It will receive the full support of the Government. In the meantime we believe the United Kingdom's procedures are adequate to control arms sales from this country.

Private Contractors (Hospital Cleaning)

39.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what proportion of hospitals for which his Department is responsible is now cleaned by private contractors; and if he will make a statement.

Nine of the 10 Service hospitals in Great Britain are now cleaned by private contractors. All 10 Service hospitals overseas are cleaned by locally engaged staff.

White Paper

40.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence when he now expects to publish the defence White Paper.

I refer the hon. Gentleman to the answer I gave earlier today to my hon. Friend the Member for Preston, North (Mr. Atkins).

Cruise Missile

41.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he still expects the first Tomahawk cruise missiles to be installed in the United Kingdom by December 1983.

Naval Shipbuilding Programme

43.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the naval shipbuilding programme.

The broad outlines of the shipbuilding programme were laid down last year in Cmnd. 8288. This programme is proceeding satisfactorily. In addition, the Government are considering as a matter of urgency the need for replacement of ships lost in the South Atlantic.

Naval Vessels (Fire Risks)

44.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what new studies he has initiated into the fire risks for modern naval vessels arising from the conflict in the South Atlantic.

The MOD continuously investigates developments in fire fighting and fire prevention techniques. In addition we shall of course be studying very carefully the causes of our tragic losses in the South Atlantic to see whether any lessons may be learnt for our damage control and maritime safety techniques generally.

Arms Sales (South America)

45.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if, in the light of recent events, he intends to review the sale of arms to South American Governments.

I have nothing to add to the reply that I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Sheffield, Hillsborough (Mr. Flannery).

Royal Ordnance Factory, Bishopton (Apprentices)

46.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many additional new apprentices will be recruited in 1982 at the Royal ordnance factory, Bishopton.

Eight new apprentices will be recruited in 1982 at the Royal ordnance factory Bishopton.

Hms "Invincible"

47.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if, in view of the development of events in the South Atlantic, he will now announce his decision whether to accept the Australian offer to cancel the sale of HMS "Invincible".

I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave earlier today to my hon. Friend the Member for Tynemouth (Mr. Trotter).

Procurement Executive

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will investigate ways of speeding up the decision-making process of the Procurement Executive in the light of experience gained in action taken in this area during the Falklands conflict.

As my right hon. Friend said in his foreword to the statement on the Defence Estimates 1982 (Cmnd. 8529), we shall be looking closely at all aspects of the Falklands operations to see what lessons can be learnt. The procedures of the Procurement Executive will, where appropriate, be included among the subjects of these studies.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what the administrative costs will be of the Procurement Executive for the period 1982–83.

In 1982–83 the administrative costs of the Procurement Executive, excluding the research and development establishments and certain production functions, are forecast to be some £162 million.

Defence Expenditure

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will list in percentage terms the real increase in defence spending for 1979, 1980 and 1981 and for the period 1978 to 1981 for Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Holland, Italy, Luxembourg, Norway, the United Kingdom, the United States of America and West Germany.

NATO does not publish information in the form requested. For the United Kingdom the information, by the nearest financial year, is as follows:

Real increase in defence spending per cent.
1979–803
1980–812·8
1981–821·5
1978–79 to 1981–827·5
The precise level of real growth achieved in 1981–82 will depend on the final outturn. The figures quoted are based on the forecast of outturn published in Cmnd. 8494.

Zimbabwe

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he plans to reduce the number of United Kingdom Service personnel in the British military mission in Zimbabwe.

There are currently about 70 United Kingdom Service personnel in the British Military Advisory and Training Team in Zimbabwe, and we plan to maintain numbers at around this level for the time being. During a recent visit to Britain, Mr. Mugabe paid warm tribute to the assistance that BMATT has given in forming an integrated Zimbabwe National Army.

Aircraft Carriers

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether in the light of recent experience in connection with the Falkland Islands operation, he will reconsider the possibility of retaining three carriers rather than two, so as to ensure that a minimum of two are always available for operation.

Employment

Macclesfield

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many people were unemployed in the travel-to-work area covering the constituency of Macclesfield in each month of 1982.

The following table gives the numbers registered as unemployed in the Macclesfield employment office area and also in the Congleton employment office area, a substantial part of which is in Macclesfield parliamentary constituency.

1982
Macclesfield employment office areaCongleton employment office area
January2,7201,075
February2,6471,064
March2,6221,052
April2,7511,060
May2,7961,019
June*2,9181,089
* Provisional.

Unemployment Statistics

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will provide a breakdown by number and percentage of those who have been unemployed for one year and over per Standard Industrial Classification in (a) Kirklees, (b) West Yorkshire, (c) Oldham and (d) Greater Manchester.

The information is not available. The numbers registered as unemployed are not cross-analysed by both the length of time unemployed and industrial classification.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many persons have been registered as unemployed for more than (a) 52 weeks, and (b) two years for each of the counties of England for each month since January 1979.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what were the percentage increases in total unemployment in the United Kingdom from June to June in each of the past five years.

The following table gives the percentage changes in the total numbers registered as unemployed in the United Kingdom between the dates specified:

Percentage change
June 1977-June 1978-0·3
June 1978-June 1979 -7·1
June 1979-June 1980+23·5
June 1980-June 1981 +61·5
June 1981-June 1982 +14·2

Part-Time Workers (Employment Protection)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will estimate the numbers of part-time workers excluded from employment protection legislation following the implementation of the Employment Act 1980.

The implementation of the Employment Act 1980 did not directly affect the numbers of part-time employees excluded from the individual rights provisions of the employment protection legislation—contained in the Employment Protection (Consolidation) Act 1978. In order to qualify for the great majority of rights contained in this Act employees have to work for 16 hours or more per week for their employer or eight hours or more per week if they have been continuously employed by their employer for five years or more. It is estimated that in 1981 there were about 1·8 million persons in Great Britain who worked for less than 16 hours per week. Of these about 1·2 million worked eight hours or more but information on how long they had been with their then employer is not available.

Equal Pay And Sex Discrimination Acts

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list those individuals and organisations which have made representations to him in favour of amending the Equal Pay and Sex Discrimination Acts.

My right hon. Friend has received submissions from some 12 organisations and about the same number of individuals in support of amending the equal pay and sex discrimination legislation. The precise information cannot be provided except at disproportionate cost because the letters are scattered over a long period, but I am writing to the hon. Member with a list of the 12 main organisations.

West Midlands

asked the Secretary of State for Employment by what percentage (a) total, (b) male and female unemployment has risen in the West Midlands since May 1979, taking May 1979 figures as equal to 100.

Between May 1979 and June 1982 the numbers of people registered as unemployed in the West Midlands, seasonally adjusted and excludng school leavers, increased by 182 per cent. in total, 192 per cent. for males and 158 per cent. for females.

Manchester

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many persons under 25 years of age were registered as unemployed in (a) the Manchester travel-to-work area and (b) the Manchester city employment office area at June 1979, June 1980, June 1981 and the latest date for which figures are available; what was the percentage change between each date; and what proportion these totals formed of the total numbers registered as unemployed in these areas.

The numbers registered as unemployed are analysed by age in January, April, July and October. The following table gives the information at July in 1979, 1980 and 1981 and at April 1982.

Unemployed aged under 25 years.
NumberPercentage changeAs a percentage of total unemployed
Manchester travel-to-work area
July 197918,63344·8
+45·3
July 198027,08247·8
+37·2
July 198137,16942·3
-4·1
April 198235,66137·9
Manchester employment office area
July 19791,82135·8
+41·4
July 19802,57439·6
+49·1
July 19813,83738·3
-5·0
April 19823,64436·2

Note: The figures include summer school leavers not present in the April figures.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what were the unemployment and vacancy figures in (a) the Manchester travel-to-work area and (b) the Manchester city employment office area at October 1978, October 1981, and the latest date for which figures are available.

Manchester travel-to-work areaManchester employment office area
Number registered as unemployedNumber of vacancies remaining unfilledNumber registered as unemployedNumber of vacancies remaining unfilled
At employment officesAt careers officesAt employment officesAt careers offices
October 197842,1965,3556135,9791,769225
October 198192,2032,482649,80770816
June 1982*95,9822,4371079,75464224
*Provisional.
The vacancy statistics relate only to vacancies notified to employment offices and careers offices; vacancies notified to employment offices are estimated to be about one-third of all vacancies in the country as a whole. Because of possible duplication the figures for employment offices and careers offices should not be added together. The number of vacancies unfilled at a particular date takes no account of the flow of vacancies being notified, filled or withdrawn which would reflect activity more closely. For example, during the twelve month period to March 1982, 194,822 people were placed in jobs by employment offices in the North-West region. It is estimated that the public employment service accounts for about one in four of all placings.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) how many employees there were in employment in service industries in (a) the Manchester travel-to-work area and (b) the Manchester city employment office area in 1972, 1977 and at the latest available date;(2) how many employees there were in employment in service industries in

(a) the Manchester travel-to-work area and (b) the Manchester city employment office area in 1972, 1977 and at the latest available date, together with the percentage changes between each date.

The most recent figures are from the June 1978 census of employment. Censuses were not taken in 1979 and 1980 and the results of the September 1981 census are not yet available.The information requested is as follows:

Employees in employment in service industries (Orders XXII to XXVII of the 1968 Standard Industrial Classification)
June 1972June 1977June 1978
(000s)
Manchester travel-to-work area384·5410·7414·9
Manchester employment office area174·0177·0173·9
Percentage changes
1972–771977–78
Per cent.Per cent.
Manchester travel-to-work area+6·8+1·0
Manchester employment office area+1·7-1·7
Because of changes in the methods used to allocate employees to employment office areas in 1977 and again

The following is the information.in 1978 the figures for the years specified are not strictly comparable and no significance should be attached to small differences.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what was the percentage unemployment rate for the Manchester travel-to-work area at the latest date and at the same date one, two, three and four years previously.

The following is the information:

Manchester travel-to-work area
June each yearPercentage rate of unemployment
19786·2
19795·4
19806·9
198111·6
198213·4

New Training Initiative

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what representations he has had from the Royal Association for Disablement and Rehabilitation concerning his new training initiative; whether he has had discussions with it; and whether any changes were made as a result.

My right hon. Friend met representatives from the Royal Association for Disablement and Rehabilitation on 10 May 1982 to talk about youth training and the young disabled. He subsequently wrote to the chairman of the Manpower Services Commission notifying him of some of the points they raised with him about the youth opportunities programme and the new youth training scheme.

School Leavers

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he has made any estimate of the Exchequer cost per head of 1983–84 school leavers who (a) continue full-time education, (b) take part in the youth training scheme and (c) become unemployed.

Young Workers Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if, in view of the Manpower Services Commission task group report, as it relates to the young workers scheme, he will merge the scheme into the new training scheme, thus adding the proposed budget of £100 million per annum in the next two financial years into the new training scheme funds thus ensuring that young workers in the young workers scheme obtain training; and if he will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend has no plans at present to restrict entry to the young workers scheme but is considering how best this scheme might relate to the youth training scheme when the latter is introduced in September 1983. He will make a further statement as soon as possible.

Youth Training (European Community Funds)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how much the European Economic Community has contributed to the youth opportunities programme and the young workers scheme in the current year, and, where relevant, in previous years; to what extent he expects the new training initiative to be funded from European Economic Community resources; and if he will make a statement.

Allocations from the European social fund in respect of the youth opportunities programme have been as follows:

YearAmount (in £ million)
*197813
197939
198047
198159
* In respect of the period May to December only.
No allocations have been made in respect of the young workers scheme. The European Commission is not expected to make decisions on 1982 applications until the autumn.We expect that a range of activities under the new training initiative will be eligible for support from the European social fund but it is not possible to produce any reliable estimate of the amount of assistance which may be received from this source.The youth training scheme represents a substantial step forward in the provision of training opportunities for young people in this country, and reflects the conclusions of the European Council in Brussels on 29–30 March that member States would strive to ensure over the the next five years that all young people entering the labour market for the first time would receive vocational training or initial work experience. The Government welcome the valuable contribution made by the European social fund to the level of employment and training effort in this country.

Trade Unionists (Education And Training)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what was the total of grants made to the Trades Union Congress in each of the financial years from 1976 to the latest convenient date for the education and training of trade unionists.

I have been asked to reply.The Government grants for trade union education and training, which since 1978–79 have included grants to unions not affiliated to the TUC, are shown in the following table:

Financial yearGrant to TUC and affiliated unionsGrant to non-affiliated unionsTotal Grant
£££
1976–77399,852399,852
1977–78640,942640,942
1978–79355,6321,309356,941
1979–802,099,36838,7892,138,157
1980–811,674,00027,1201,701,120
1981–821,837,64134,739872,380

Notes:

1. Grant of up to £1,600,000- TUC and affiliated unions—and £80,000—non-affiliated—is being made available for 1982–83. This support is subject to annual review by the Government.

2. The grant is paid in equal shares by the Department of Education and Science and the Department of Employment.

3. The sums made available in 1979–80 included grant held over from the previous year as a result of a Civil Service industrial dispute

Scotland

Renewable Tack System

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he has proposals to enable those whose houses are built on land held under the renewable tack system to be given the opportunity of acquiring title.

My right hon. Friend has no proposals for legislation on this question. Those holding property in this way may be able to negotiate with landlords for the acquisition of title.

Divorce

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many divorce actions are listed for hearing in Scotland; and what is the average time being taken by the courts to clear these cases.

As at 25 June there were 398 defended divorce actions listed for proof. The average interval between fixing and hearing proof in such actions is 16 court working weeks.

Invergordon Smelter

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on the future of the Invergordon smelter.

Discussions with potential operators are continuing, and my right hon. Friend will make a statement when these have been completed.

Traffic Offences (Fixed Penalties)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland which courts will be responsible for collection of fixed penalties leviable under the Transport Bill.

We envisage that in most areas fixed penalties leviable under the Transport Bill will be paid to the clerk of the district court, as fixed penalties for parking offences are at the moment, but that in areas where there is no district court they will be paid to the sheriff clerk.

Salmon And Trout (Illegal Netting)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many illegal fishing nets have been discovered on the salmon and trout rivers during each of the past five years; how many offences under the Salmon and Freshwater Fisheries Act involving salmon poaching have been dealt with by the courts in the last 12 months; if he will list the offences concerned and the penalties imposed; in how many cases the penalty imposed was the maximum for the offence; and what proposals he has to check the illegal netting of salmon in the rivers of Scotland.

Unemployment Statistics

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many persons have been registered as unemployed for more than (a) 52 weeks and (b) two years for each of the counties of Scotland for each month since January 1979.

Percentage Increase in Total Unemployment at June of Each Year
Employment office area1977–781978–791979–801980–811981–82
Edinburgh 1-12·6-8·212·526·827·5
Edinburgh 20·1-0·59·444·723·0
Edinburgh 312·959·317·7
Leith-5·6-4·517·734·720·2
Portobello1·8-2·425·935·418·5
Dalkeith0·7-10·022·942·926·0
Loanhead1·8-5·5-11·041·835·6
Musselburgh-3·5-4·310·252·512·8
Penicuik12·9-12·834·626·732·7
Tranent-3·6-5·733·541·0

Notes:

1. Edinburgh 1—South St. Andrew Street Jobcentre.

Edinburgh 2—Shandwick Place Jobcentre.

Edinburgh 3—Wester Hailes Jobcentre.

2. The area covered by the Wester Hailes Jobcentre was included in the Edinburgh 2 employment office area prior to 1979. Tranent employment office closed in 1981 and is now included on the Musselburgh employment office area.

Birth Statistics

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in the Official Report the percentage of illegitimate live births in relation to all live births in the Ayrshire and Arran health board area and Kilmarnock and Loudoun area for the years 1980 and 1981, together with the percentage of illegitimate live births for the under 20-year-old age group in relation to all live births in that area for each of those years.

The information is given in the following table:

Illegitimate Live Births as a Percentage of All Live Births
Ayrshire and Arran health board areaKilmarnock and Loudoun local government district
Age group of mother19801981*19801981*
All ages10·811·711·812·7
Under 20 years of age37·640·144·938·1
* Provisional.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were the percentage increases in total unemployment in (a) the Edinburgh travel-to-work area and (b) Scotland, from June to June in each of the past five years.

The information is set out in the following table:

Percentage Increase in Total Unemployment at June of each Year
Edinburgh travel-to-work areaScotland
1977–78-4·0+0·5
1978–79-4·8-2·3
1979–80+14·5+22·1
1980–81+38·3+37·0
1981–82+22·7+11·6

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were the percentage increases in total unemployment in each employment exchange in the Edinburgh travel-to-work area from June to June in each of the past five years.

Northern Ireland

Industrial Development

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what proportion of public spending in Northern Ireland has been allocated to industrial development in each of the last five financial years for which figures are available.

Expressed as a percentage of the total Northern Ireland programme, as shown in the White Paper "The Government's Expenditure Plans 1982–83—1984–85" Cmnd. 8494, the proportion allocated to industrial development is as follows:

1976–771977–781978–791979–801980–81
per cent.per cent.per cent.per cent.per cent.
6·44·76·56·16·8

Unemployment Benefit

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what proportion of public spending in Northern Ireland has been paid in unemployment benefit in each of the last five financial years for which figures are available.

Expressed as a percentage of the total Northern Ireland programme, as shown in the White Paper "The Government's Expenditure Plans 1982–83—1984–85" Cmnd. 8494, the proportion paid in unemployment benefit is as follows:

1976–771977–781978–791979–801980–81
per cent.per cent.per cent.per cent.per cent.
1·41·41·31·11·7

Supplementary Benefit

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what proportion of public spending in Northern Ireland has been paid in supplementary benefit in each of the last five financial years for which figures are available.

Expressed as a percentage of the total Northern Ireland programme as shown in the White Paper "The Government's Expenditure Plans 1982/83–1984/85" Cmnd. 8494, the proportion paid in Supplementary Benefit is as follows:

Yearper cent.
1976–773·8
1977–784·4
1978–794·2
1979–803·9
1980–814·4

Salmon And Trout (Illegal Netting)

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many illegal fishing nets have been discovered on the salmon and trout rivers during each of the past five years; how many offences under the Salmon and Freshwater Fisheries Act involving salmon poaching have been dealt with by the courts in the last 12 months;

England and WalesThousands
1974197519761977197819791980
1. Number of children in care of Local Authorities as at 31 March95·999·1100·6101·2100·7100·1100·2
2. Number of children boarded out as at 31 March30·731·933·134·034·735·936·9
3. Number of children who left care during the year because of adoption1·71·51·61·51·61·51·6
1974–751975–761976–771977–781978–791979–80
Percentage change in 1 above+3·3+1·5+0·6-0·5-0·6+0·1
Percentage change in 2 above+3·9+3·8+2·7+2·1+3·5+2·8
Percentage change in 3 above-11·8+6·7-6·3+6·7-6·3+6·7

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many children are in local authority care; of these how many are of (a) Asian and (b) Caribbean origin; and what proportion of the total each figure represents.

if he will list the offences concerned and the penalties imposed; in how many cases the penalty imposed was the maximum for the offence; and what proposals he has to check the illegal netting of salmon in the rivers of Northern Ireland.

Social Services

National Health Service Employees (Conditions Of Service)

48.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the operation of paragraph 3(3) S.I. 1974, No. 296, which allows the Secretary of State to direct an employing authority to vary the remuneration or other conditions of work of a National Health Service employee where they have been negotiated by an approved negotiating body; and on how many occasions, and in what circumstances a direction under this paragraph has been taken.

Paragraph 3(3) of S.I. 1974 No. 296 enables the Secretary of State in suitable cases to make exceptional provision departing from the remuneration or other conditions of service that he has approved for general application. The powers are at the moment largely delegated to health authorities and are frequently used. The amount of work involved in ascertaining how many times a direction under this regulation has been given would be disproportionate to the value of the exercise.

Children In Care

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish a table in the Official Report showing the total number of children in care for each year from 1974 until the present, the number of children placed with foster parents for each of those years, the number adopted for each of those years, and the yearly percentage change in each of these figures for each of these years.

The number of children in care of local authorities in England and Wales as at 31 March 1980 was 100,200. Information on the ethnic origin of children in care is not collected centrally.

Fraudulent Claims

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if, in view of the fact that a person, details of whom have been supplied to him, who was found guilty of defrauding his Department of social security benefits and has not paid the fines or repaid the amounts due, has been found guilty of further offences, he will set out the reasons why further benefits were paid; and what steps he has taken or intends taking to recover the £2,245 due to his Department, together with other amounts now due.

From the information given it has not been possible to identify this case. If the hon. Member will provide me with details I will look into the matter.

Attendance Allowance

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what controls exist for the collection of the attendance allowance given to disabled people living in private hostels.

A disabled person who is unable to cash his attendance allowance order book can arrange for someone else to do so. If a disabled person is unable to manage his own affairs, the Secretary of State can appoint another person to act on behalf of the disabled person and this would include cashing the order book. There are no special rules for disabled people living in private hostels. There are well defined rules to ensure that a post office pays benefit to the person authorised to collect the benefit.If the hon. Member has a particular case in mind, I would be glad to have details.

Retirement Pension

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what proportion average yearly income derived from retirement pension per head bears to the average income derived from all soures per head of the population expressed as a percentage for each year since 1964, after all taxes and other benefits have been paid;(2) what proportion average yearly retirement pensioner income bears to the average single adult income after all taxes and benefits have been paid, expressed as a percentage for each year since 1964.

The information requested is not available and could be produced only at disproportionate cost. My hon. Friend may wish to refer to tables 5.1, 6.3a and 6,3b of the "Abstract of Statistics for Index of Retail Prices, Average Earnings, Social Security Benefits and Contributions", and also to table 46 of the 1979 "Family Expenditure Survey", which are in the Library, since these contain some related information.

Supplementary Benefit (Mortgage Defaults)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many owner-occupied houses have been reclaimed by building societies where the owner-occupiers were in receipt of supplementary benefit as a consequence of unemployment in 1979, 1980, 1981 and 1982; and whether any record is kept of the means by which the families concerned are rehoused.

This information is not available.Repossession of an owner-occupier's home should not normally arise as a consequence of recourse to supplementary benefit during unemployment. Building societies usually accept interest only payments in these circumstances and mortgage interest is normally included in full in the assessment of an owner-occupier's housing requirements.

"Help For The Handicapped Child"

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will obtain a copy of Camden borough council's new publication entitled "Help for the Handicapped Child", and if he will study the document with a view to recommending similar publications in other localities.

This booklet is an imaginative and thoughtful approach to providing the parents of handicapped children with information on the kinds of help and activity available nationally and locally. It is, however, for each local authority to decide how to disseminate information in its own area, and others are producing directories providing this information.

Young Persons (Board And Lodging Charges)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will take steps to collect figures on the numbers of local authority social services departments charging board and lodging to 16-year-olds in care who are unemployed or on youth opportunity programmes;(2) if he will take steps to require local authority social services departments not to charge board and lodging to 16-year-olds in care who are unemployed or on youth opportunity programmes; and if he will make a statement.

One-Parent Families

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what proportion of families in (a) England and (b) Manchester consisted of one-parent families at the latest date for which figures are available and three years previously.

The latest available information at local authority level is given by the 1981 census and refers to households that contain at least one one-parent family with dependent children as a proportion of all households with dependent children. Though the definitions do not correspond exactly with those used by the Finer committee, the proportions at national level taken from the census are not thought to differ greatly.Provisional estimates of the percentage of families with dependent children aged under 25 which were one-parent families, based on the 1981 census:

As a percentage of
households with dependent childrenall households
Manchester metropolitan district259
Greater Manchester (Metropolitan County)166
England145

Strictly comparable figures for earlier years are not available, but from other sources it is estimated that for England as a whole the figure in 1978 was some 12 per cent.

Population Statistics

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the percentage of the population that came from non-white ethnic groups in (a) England and (b) Manchester at the latest date for which figures are available.

No precise information is available at district level about the size of ethnic minority populations.

Supplementary Benefit

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many people were in receipt of supplementary benefit in the city of Manchester and Greater Manchester, respectively, at the latest date for which figures are available; and what were the figures at the same date in 1979.

I regret that information is not available in the form requested. However, the numbers of people claiming supplementary benefit from the local offices in the city of Manchester and Greater Manchester, at February 1979 and February 1982, the latest available date, are given below. These offices may also cover people who live outside the areas concerned.

February 1979February 1982
City of Manchester57,50074,000
Greater Manchester (including the City)178,000238,000
Source: 100 per cent. count of cases in action in local offices.

Midwifery (Male Staff)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what evaluation has been made of men in midwifery practice and their acceptability to mothers and their partners; and whether further evaluation is planned;

Perinatal and infant mortality: numbers and rates for all births and home births, 1978–80. England and Wales
197819791980
NumberRateNumberRateNumberRate
Perinatal mortality*
All births9,31315·59,40214·68,79613·3
Home births20020·821624·320425·0
Infant mortality
All births7,73013·08,06412·67,79011·9
Home births15916·715918·115719·5
* Rates per 1,000 total births
† Rates per 1,000 live births
Care should be taken in interpreting these figures. A detailed analysis of data relating to home births has recently been published by OPCS

* .

* Perinatal mortality and place of delivery; Rona Campbell et al, Population Trends 28 (HMSO 1982).

(2) if he intends to open all midwifery training places to male applicants; and if he will make a statement.

Studies into the training and employment of men as midwives have been carried out in Islington health district and Forth Valley health board, the two locations currently authorised to undertake this training.A report on these two schemes was circulated to health authorities, professional and other interested bodies for comment earlier this year and, in conjunction with other health Ministers, I am currently considering the comments that have been received. I hope, shortly, to make a statement on the proposals outlined in the consultation; on the lifting of the restrictions, on training and employment of men as midwives.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many men have undergone midwifery training since 1978; how many have qualified; and 'what proportion of total midwives they represent.

In Great Britain, 40 men have entered training since 1978. Of these, 28 have qualified as midwives, five are currently undergoing training, and seven discontinued training.During the period 1 April 1978 to 31 March 1982 a total of 21,000 men and women entered training, thus giving the ratio of one man to 525 women entering training.

Birth Statistics

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many home deliveries there have been in each of the last three years; what proportion of total births these represented in each case; what was the mortality rate; and how this compares with the overall rate for each year.

The information is as follows:

Numbers of home births as a percentage of total births 1978–80 England and Wales
197819791980
Home births9,6088,9048,162
Percentage of total births1·601·381·23

Births (Home Deliveries)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what steps are being taken by district health authorities to ensure that home deliveries are as safe as possible;(2) if he is satisfied that there are adequate midwifery facilities available in all parts of the United Kingdom to provide for those mothers who wish to have their babies at home.

In answer to a parliamentary question from my hon. Friend the Member for Chippenham (Mr. Needham) on 3 December 1981—[Vol. 14, c. 209]—my hon. Friend the then Minister for Health, stated:

"Women should be encouraged whenever possible to have their babies in a fully-equipped hospital offering the range of obstetric, paediatric and supporting services for emergencies. However, if a mother wishes to be delivered at home, she should be able to do so. It is an important responsibility of health authorities to ensure that services are provided to make domiciliary confinements as safe as circumstances permit."
The answer went on to state:

"The demand for home confinement, and the competing claims on the medical and midwifery staff available, vary considerably up and down the country. Individual authorities are therefore best able to plan a satisfactory service locally. We asked them in Cmnd. 8084 and health circular (80)13 to review their arrangements for home confinements, including the provision of emergency transport, in discussion with all the professional staff involved, and to ensure that arrangements are known locally."—[Official Report, 3 December 1981; Vol. 14, c. 209.]

This reply was circulated to all regional and area health authorities at the time.

"Growing Older"

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many more local authorities have established joint training activities for professionals working with elderly people with health authorities since the publication of "Growing Older".

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many district health authorities and local social services departments have introduced extensions to community support for frail elderly people under the joint finance arrangements since the publication of "Growing Older".

The information is not readily available. Of the total sum spent by health authorities on jointly financed development of personal social services, about 40 per cent, is estimated to have been spent directly or indirectly on services for elderly people. Total Joint Finance expenditure in 1981–82 was about £76 million.

"The Impending Crisis Of Old Age"

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he has studied the report "The Impending Crisis of Old Age", produced by the Nuffield working group chaired by Professor Acheson; and if he proposes to implement any of the findings.

The recommendations in this report were directed at a wide range of objectives, many of them not appropriate for Government action. So far as the relevant ones are concerned they are being taken into account in the further development of Government policy.

Youth Training Scheme (Benefit Savings)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what savings in supplementary benefit and other social security payments are expected to be made in 1983–84 as a result of the participation by young people who would otherwise have been unemployed in the youth training scheme.

In view of the number of variables involved, it is not possible to give a firm estimate of the figure sought by the hon. Member. However, as a rough guide we estimate that the net saving of expenditure—reduced payments of benefits offset by additional payments of training allowances—will be about £20 million compared with the position if the youth opportunities programme had continued.

Regional Health Authorities (Chairmen)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will give his reasons for the decision not to re-appoint the chairmen of the West Midlands, Trent, Wessex and North-Western regional health authorities.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Gibraltar

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on his meeting with Ministers from Gibraltar.

We have not had the opportunity of meeting Ministers from Gibraltar since my right hon. Friend saw the Chief Minister on 26 May. We look forward to seeing Sir Joshua Hassan again in the near future. The Governor of Gibraltar called on my right hon. Friend on 23 June and was able to discuss the implications for Gibraltar of the postponement of implementation of the Lisbon agreement.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether there are any circumstances in which he would be prepared to discuss the issue of sovereignty over Gibraltar with Spanish Ministers; whether he has any information to suggest any significant degree of support in Gibraltar for discussions on sovereignty; and how he reconciles those sections of the Lisbon statement which refer to overcoming all the differences between the United Kingdom and Spain on Gibraltar with the commitment by the United Kingdom to honour the preamble to the Gibraltar Constitution Order 1969, as expressed in article 5 of the Lisbon statement.

The Lisbon agreement of April 1980 envisages the start of negotiations aimed at resolving all the differences between the British and Spanish Governments over Gibraltar at the same time as the resumption of direct communications in the region. This means that each side would be free to raise any subject. But Her Majesty's Government have always made clear in this context that they will fully maintain the commitment in the preamble to the Gibraltar constitution to respect the wishes of the people of Gibraltar. Any resolution of differences must be consistent with this principle. The Chief Minister of Gibraltar and the Leader of the Opposition supported implementation of the Lisbon agreement on this basis. We are keeping in close touch with the development of opinion in Gibraltar.

Entry Certificates

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how many officers dealing with entry certificates are in post at each embassy or high commission; and what was the waiting list at each for the last year for which figures are available.

The information for posts in the Indian Sub-continent is as follows:

PostNo. of Entry Clearance OfficersApplicants for immediate settlement as at 31 March 1982
New Delhi3810
Bombay51,580
Calcutta110
Islamabad141,900
Karachi2340
Dacca148,750

British Subjects Overseas

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he will list the countries where Her Majesty's Government have made representations since May 1979 concerning the death, torture or ill-treatment of British subjects at the hands of official authorities.

Yes. While we are aware of very few cases of death, torture or physical ill-treatment of British subjects, the hon. Gentleman will appreciate that such a list will require considerable research. I shall write to him when the information is available.

El Salvador

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what was the total expenditure incurred as a result of sending the official observers to the elections in El Salvador on 28 March.

Those costs not repayable by the Salvadoran Government amount to £7,536 81.

Environment

Havant (Hospital)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will call in the planning application for a private hospital in Havant, as proposed by the British United Provident Association.

Two planning applications have been made by BUPA in relation to this proposed private hospital, since although the major part of the site lies within East Hampshire district the access to it is within Havant borough. My right hon. Friend does not propose to call in the planning applications; he considers that this is essentially a local matter which the local planning authorities should be left to determine.

Listed Buildings

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many listed buildings there are in England and Wales; how many are listed grade I, grade II star and grade II; and how many of these buildings are houses in private occupation.

On 31 March 1982 there were 5,408 grade I and 277,387 grade II listed buildings in England. Separate statistics are not available for the starred category within grade II. Based on sampling, however, the number of such buildings is probably about 20,000. I have no details of listed houses in private occupation.The corresponding information for Wales is a matter for my right hon. Friend.

Disabled Persons (Access To Public Buildings)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects to publish the consultation paper on "Access to Public Buildings for Disabled People" under section 6 of the Disabled Persons Act 1981, providing for a body to adjudicate on such matters.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he intends to lay before Parliament a report, pursuant to section 7 of the Disabled Persons Act 1981, on the Government's proposals to improve access for disabled people.

My right hon. Friend will very soon be issuing a consultation paper on the implementation of section 6 of the Disabled Persons Act 1981 and the arrangements to be made to improve the standard of provision for disabled people in buildings to which the public have access. After that, we shall be in a position to consider the timing and content of the report required under section 7 of the Act.

Housing Associations

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he proposes to introduce revised statutory accounting requirements for registered housing associations under section 124 of the Housing Act 1980.

My right hon. Friend laid the relevant Order, the Registered Housing Associations (Accounting Requirements) Order 1982 today, and copies of the accompanying grant redemption fund determinations have been placed in the Library.

Transport

Vehicle Excise Duty

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will make a statement on the results of his Department's campaigns against motorists failing to display and have road fund licences; what has been the result of such campaigns; to what extent those dealt with also failed to have Ministry of Transport road test certificates and insurance; and whether he will make a statement.

Sixteen police forces have mounted special campaigns since the beginning of 1980 in co-operation with the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre to detect motorists evading payment of vehicle excise duty. In addition, the centre has taken part in campaigns mounted by two London boroughs to deal with unlicensed, parked, or abandoned vehicles. Further campaigns are planned. I am grateful to those police and local authorities which have mounted campaigns or plan to do so.The campaigns are designed not only to catch offenders but also, by means of advance publicity, to encourage motorists to relicense voluntarily rather than face prosecution. They have undoubtedly been a success.For example, a single month's campaign in Sussex last year resulted in over 900 prosecutions and about 20,000 more licensed vehicles in the county. The police have advised that about one third of the prosecutions involve other road safety offences. Failure to provide valid test certificates and insurance are a major part of these offences.

Road Accidents (Statistics)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport how many 17-year-old persons were involved in road accidents in each of the past five years.

During 1976 to 1980 the following numbers were killed or injured in road accidents in Great Britain:

YearNumber
197620,863
197721,467
197821,817
197920,283
198021,080
In addition, some 4,000 further 17 year-olds are involved each year as drivers or riders but are not injured.

Local Radio (Road Signs Publicity)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport why local BBC radio stations are to be used exclusively to publicise the placing of signs alongside major trunk roads; for what reason independent radio stations, which reach wide audiences, are not considered; and if he is satisfied that the maximum effectiveness for the experiment has been achieved.

This experiment in conjunction with the RAC and BBC would be aimed at establishing whether drivers generally might find such signs useful. We have already told the Independent Broadcasting Authority that we would be willing to consider a further experiment in an independent radio area if those concerned were prepared to meet the research costs entailed.

Noise Insulation Grants (Greenford)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will extend noise insulation grants to the private dwellings in Medway Parade, Perivale, Greenford.

I am already considering to what extent I can provide noise insulation to properties in Medway Parade and others similarly located in relation to the A40 Perivale underpass.

Driving Licence Renewals

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what is now the average time taken to renew a driving licence at the driver and vehicle licensing centre, Swansea.

At present over 85 per cent. of driving licences are issued within three weeks of a valid application reaching the centre. Drivers are legally entitled to drive while their licences are being renewed, provided they are not disqualified on medical or legal grounds: each application form bears a note to this effect.

Tyres (Tread Depths)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport (1) when he expects to be in a position to give a detailed reply to the points made by various organisations during the consultation period on possible changes to tyre tread depth legislation;

(2) what is his timetable for consultation on the proposed amendments to construction and use regulations covering tyre tread depth legislation;

(3) if, in the consideration of possible changes to tyre tread depth legislation as it relates to the proposed provision for 25 per cent. of visible tread, he intends to include a requirement for such tread to be continuously visible all round the tyre.

My officials will be meeting interested parties, including tyre industry representatives and the police, on 15 July to discuss the drafting of a regulation to implement the decision I announced in my answer to my hon. Friend on 30 March.—[Vol. 21, c. 73.] This will include a provision that a visible tread pattern should show all round the tyre. In the light of that meeting I shall consider the terms of a draft regulation on which there will be formal consultation with interested organisations in the autumn. I shall reply as soon as I can to the detailed points already raised by the tyre industry.