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Volume 32: debated on Monday 15 November 1982

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Written Answers To Questions

Monday 15 November 1982

Trade

Bae 146

asked the Minister for Trade what assistance is being given by his Department to British Aerospace in selling the BAe 146.

A wide range of my Department's services to exporters are available to help British Aerospace. In addition, ECGD's normal facilities are available to support sales of the BAe 146. Discussions are taking place between ECGD and BAe and its financial advisers on the particular application of these facilities.

Glue Sniffing

asked the Minister for Trade what actions lie within his responsibilities to help prevent the practice of glue sniffing among young people; if he will assess what action can be taken to prevent the addition of intoxicating substances to glue; and if he will make a statement.

My responsibilities are confined to the supply of any products that can be misused in this way, where they fall within my general responsibility for the safety of goods for the consumer. I understand that removing the intoxicating substances from glue would make it in most cases useless for its proper purpose. The same would apparently be true of the many other products that can be "sniffed". So it appears that any steps I might take to stop the sniffing of products containing intoxicating substances would prevent their legitimate use.

Erasers

asked the Minister for Trade whether he has received any representations regarding erasers that resemble sweets; and what reply he has sent.

I have received many representations and would refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for East Grinstead (Sir G. Johnson Smith) on 8 November 1982.—[Vol. 31, c. 28–29.]

Goods (Labelling Regulations)

asked the Minister for Trade if he is satisfied with the operation, enforcement and effectiveness of the new regulations relating to both fibre content and origin labelling in goods.

It is too soon to draw firm conclusions on the operation of the origin marking Order, which has been in force for less than a year. I am keeping its effectiveness under careful review in consultation with the trading standards service. The operation of the fibre content regulations is a matter for my hon. Friend the Minister of State for Industry.

Air Cargo Services (Canada)

asked the Minister for Trade if he will allow cargo to be carried by passenger charter airlines operating between Canada and United Kingdom provincial airports; and if he will make a statement.

As part of my Department's continuing policy of liberalisation in aviation matters, I have now decided, after a careful examination of the various airport and airlines interests involved, and in the light of discussions with the Canadian authorities, to propose to the Canadians arrangements to allow passenger charter airlines to carry cargo between Canada and United Kingdom airports outside London with effect from 1 April 1983.Certain restrictions will apply to the carriage of cargo from Canada to the United Kingdom in view of the limited freedom which the Canadians are prepared to allow United Kingdom cargo airlines operating from Canada. I hope that the Canadians will agree to dispense with these limitations in due course. I believe that this decision will be particularly welcome at Manchester.

asked the Minister for Trade if he will allow cargo to be carried by passenger charter airlines operating between Canada and United Kingdom provincial airports; and if he will make a statement.

As part of my Department's continuing policy of liberalisation in aviation matters, I have now decided, after a careful examination of the various airport and airlines interests involved, and in the light of discussions with the Canadian authorities, to propose to the Canadians arrangements to allow passenger charter airlines to carry cargo between Canada and United Kingdom airports outside London with effect from 1 April 1983.Certain restrictions will apply to the carriage of cargo from Canada to the United Kingdom in view of the limited freedom which the Canadians are prepared to allow United Kingdom cargo airlines operating from Canada. I hope that the Canadians will agree to dispense with these limitations in due course. I believe that this decision will be particularly welcome at Prestwick.

Microlight Aircraft

asked the Minister for Trade (1) what progress there has been in conjunction with the Civil Aviation Authority in ensuring the proper airworthiness standards of microlight aircraft and powered hang-gliders;(2) whether he has discussed the question of the control of microlight aircraft with the Civil Aviation Authority; and whether any new initiatives are planned in this area;(3) what progress has been made in the discussions regarding the control and licensing of microlight aircraft;(4) which authorities are responsible for the control of microlight aircraft; and if he is planning any change in the control and use of the aircraft.(5) what is the current number of registered microlight aircraft or powered hang-gliders in the United Kingdom.

The problems created by microlight aeroplanes (which include powered hang-gliders) have been a cause of concern to both my Department and the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA), which has the prime responsibility for their regulation; my Department's responsibility is for their environmental impact. We have been working together to see how best to alleviate the annoyance caused by this sport, and to ensure that it is carried out safely. I am satisfied that these responsibilities are properly defined. I have also discussed the subject with the representative bodies. Some means of regulation is undoubtedly desirable, but my Department and the CAA are anxious not to impose undue restrictions on the use of these aeroplanes.Microlight aeroplanes, like all other aircraft, have to be flown in conformity with the rules of the air and air traffic control, and now have to be registered with the Authority. At 11 November 1982, some 978 were so registered. The Authority introduced formal pilot licensing requirements from 1 September this year, and are also drawing up in conjunction with the representative bodies airworthiness requirements in the form of a "permit to fly" for aeroplanes with an empty weight of between 70 and 150Kg. These requirements should be promulgated early next year.My Department has recently commissioned two studies into the noise levels created by these aeroplanes, and, when the results are available, we shall consider what might be done to reduce the noise at source, and whether formal controls should be introduced.

Patents

asked the Minister for Trade whether Her Majesty's Government will oppose any changes in the Paris convention governing patents which would give developing countries the right, under the international convention, to award exclusive compulsory licences under patents allegedly underworked or abused, or which would exclude the patent owner himself from operating the patented invention in that country.

Negotiations continue on the sanctions which may be applied in cases of underworking or abuse of patents. The text which resulted from last year's session of the conference to revise the Paris convention and which permitted the exclusive compulsory licence as one of the sanctions is to be re-examined at a meeting of the conference next week. Her Majesty's Government are fully aware of industry's views on the matter and indeed its long-term interests are our prime consideration in the negotiations.

Yorkshire Electricity Consultative Council (Chairman)

asked the Minister for Trade what were the claims for expenses by the present chairman of the Yorkshire Electricity Consultative Council for each quarter from 1 January 1979 to 30 September 1982.

Following is the information:

1979198019811982
££££
Quarter 11,7841,8862,431
Quarter 21,7182,1862,288
Quarter 31,8231,9862,472
Quarter 42,0702,2712,227

asked the Minister for Trade on what date the present chairman of the Yorkshire Electricity Consultative Council was appointed; on what date his term of office expires; and if he is eligible for reappointment at that date.

The chairman of this council was first appointed on 18 January 1974 and reappointed in January 1977 and January 1980. His present appointment expires on 17 January 1983. All area ECC chairmen may be considered for reappointment when their term of office expires.

asked the Minister for Trade what annual salary is currently paid for the part-time appointment as chairman of the Yorkshire Electricity Consultative Council; and what was the level of that salary in each of the years 1979, 1980 and 1981.

The part-time chairmen of area electricity consultative councils are currently paid at an annual rate of £6,406. The rate was £5,620 between 1 April 1981 and 31 March 1982; £5,250 between 1 April 1980 and 31 March 1981; and £3,780 between 1 January 1979 and 31 March 1980.

Companies House Information

asked the Minister for Trade (1) what is the policy of Her Majesty's Government on the provision of Companies House information through public libraries;(2) how many times over the past six months officials of his Department attended meetings to discuss the provision of Companies House information through public libraries with organisations or groups representing search agents.

Companies (Returns)

asked the Minister for Trade what action he intends to take to secure returns from companies in default of section 353 of the Companies Act 1948.

None, since companies are not required by section 353 of the Companies Act 1948 to make returns.

Film Industry

asked the Minister for Trade if he has yet instituted the major review of the Government's policy on the film industry as indicated by the Minister for Consumer Affairs in the House on 21 July,Official Report, column 502; if so, what are the terms of reference of that review; when it is expected to report; and if it will be published.

My review is considering all aspects of the Department of Trade's relations with the film industry, and their implications for other Departments and the organisations concerned. The later stages are unlikely to be completed before March 1983. I shall inform the House of any proposals for action resulting from the review.

asked the Minister for Trade whether, in the review of the British film industry announced on 21 July, Official Report, column 502, he has consulted the following: the National Film Finance Corporation, the British Film Institute, the National Film School, the film industry trade unions, the Association of Independent Producers, and the British Film and Television Producers Association.

asked the Minister for Trade if he has any proposals to dismantle the Interim Action Committee on the film industry.

asked the Minister for Trade if he will take into consideration the section on the British film industry in the eighth report of the Select Committee on Education, Science and Arts, concerning the public and private funding of the arts, in the announced review of the film industry.

Licensed Trade (Tied Houses)

asked the Minister for Trade if the proposed regulation of the European Economic Community to change the tied house system in the licensed trade has been finalised; when he expects it to come into operation; and if he will make copies available to hon. Members.

The Commission's regulation has not yet been finalised and I understand its introduction, which had been planned for 1 January 1983, will now be deferred for six months or a year to allow more time for discussion of the proposal.

Helicopters

asked the Minister for Trade if he will seek to legislate to strengthen the safety rules for helicopters entering or leaving airports when the flight route passes over domestic and industrial buildings adjacent to the airport; and if he will make a statement.

Helicopters are required to observe the rules of the air and air traffic control notified in Statutory Instrument No. 1965/1980, The Air Navigation Order 1980. I am advised that these rules are adequate to ensure the safety of both helicopters and third parties on the ground.

asked the Minister for Trade how many inspectors from his Department are responsible for testing the safety of helicopters operating between Aberdeen airport and the oil rigs in the North Sea; and if he will make a statement.

Statutory responsibility for regulating the safety of helicopters operating between Aberdeen airport and the oil rigs in the North Sea rests with the Civil Aviation Authority. I have asked the chairman to write to my hon. Friend with the information.

asked the Minister for Trade (1) what further progress has been made in his investigations into the safety of helicopters flying from Aberdeen airport to and from the North Sea; and if he will make a statement;(2) how many accidents have occurred to helicopters operating between Aberdeen airport and the North Sea oil rigs in the years 1979 to 1981 and for the current year; and how many casualties were involved;(3) if he will carry out a public inquiry into the operation of helicopters from Aberdeen airport to the oil rigs in the North Sea; and if he will make a statement.

Since January 1979 there has been one reported accident to a helicopter operating between Aberdeen airport and the North Sea oil rigs. It occurred in January 1981 and there were no casualties.Statutory responsibility for regulating the safety of helicopters operating in the North Sea rests with the Civil Aviation Authority, which keeps safety matters constantly under review.Over the past 12 years some eight million passengers have been carried. There have been three fatal accidents, and twenty five people have been killed. Any fatal accident is greatly to be regretted, but in comparison with any public air transport activity the safety record has been a remarkably good one.

Laker Airways

asked the Minister for Trade if the receiver dealing with the collapse of Laker Airways has yet filed with the Registrar of Companies a copy of the statement of affairs prepared by the directors of the company; and if the receiver made any comments on the statement.

asked the Minister for Trade what information he has as to the total liabilities still outstanding to the creditors of Laker Airways; and what are the amounts owing to the various types of creditors concerned.

I am informed by the receivers that total ascertained liabilities have been estimated at £260 million. Just under 17,000 people held scheduled tickets on Skytrain with a total value estimated at £3·85 million. Some of them were able to use their return coupons with other airlines. How many remain with unused coupons is not yet known. A further 139,000 people had paid in part or in full for a package holiday. Total liabilities are about £6 million, which can be met in full out of bonding arrangements and the air travel reserve fund. I have no further information on the amounts owing to individual creditors.

London-Inverness Air Service

asked the Minister for Trade if he will take steps to secure the continuance of the London to Inverness domestic air service.

Following the announcement by British Airways that they intended to withdraw from this route in spring 1983, three applications from private sector airlines were swiftly made to the Civil Aviation Authority for a licence to operate this service. A public hearing is to be held in January. The normal licensing procedures must be allowed to proceed. The three private sector airlines are Dan-Air, British Midland Airways and G B Airways.

Hatton (Aircraft Forced-Landing)

asked the Minister for Trade if he will carry out an investigation into the circumstances under which a twin-engined Air Ecosse Bandeirante aircraft was forced to land in a barley field at Hatton in the Aberdeenshire, East constituency on Satuday 6 November; and if he will make a statement.

The incident is presently the subject of a preliminary investigation by my Department's accident investigation branch in order that the Chief Inspector of Accidents may determine whether a full inspector's investigation needs to be carried out.

Public Expenditure

asked the Minister for Trade if he will list, on an annual basis, all cuts in public expenditure in excess of £5 million, which he has made since May 1979 at both current and 1982 prices, indicating in each case the size of the cut as a percentage of the departmental budget for that year.

I have been asked to reply.I refer the hon. Member to the relevant Public Expenditure White Papers (Cmnd. 7746, 7841, 8175 and 8494) and to the Autumn Statement laid before the House on 8 November last. I regret that a comprehensive analysis in the form requested could be provided only with a disproportionate expenditure of time and effort.

Companies Acts

asked the Minister for Trade, during the years 1971, 1976 and 1981, how many cases of prosecutions against individuals or companies in respect of offences relating to breaches of the Companies Acts were reported to the Director of Public Prosecutions which were not subsequently proceeded with through the courts.

I have been asked to reply on behalf of my hon. and learned Friend the Minister for Trade.

Percentage of income paid in income tax and national insurance contributions
Half average earningsThree quarters average earningsAverage earningsOne and half time average earningsTwice average earnings
TaxNicTaxNicTaxNicTaxNicTaxNic
Single Person
1981–8217·77·721·87·623·87·725·97·727·56·0
1982–8317·18·721·48·723·68·725·78·726·96·9
Married couple without children
1981–8210·77·717·27·720·47·723·67·725·26·0
1982–839·98·716·68·719·98·723·38·725·06·9
Married couple with one child
1981–8210·07·216·37·419·67·523·07·624·75·9
1982–839·28·115·88·319·28·422·78·524·56·7
Married couple with two children
1981–829·36·715·67·018·97·222·47·424·35·8
1982–838·67·615·07·918·58·122·18·324·06·6
Married couple with four children
1981–828·25·914·36·417·76·721·47·023·45·6
1982–837·56·713·77·217·37·621·17·923·26·4

European Community Budget

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what share of expenditure within the European Community budget has been allocated to (a) the agricultural guarantee fund, (b) the agricultural guidance fund, (c) the regional development fund and (d) social fund in 1982; and what has been the percentage increase for each of these budgetary sectors for each of the past two years.

Only a minority of alleged offences under the Companies Acts are referred to the Director of Public Prosecutions. To ascertain how many such references have been made in any one year, or over any given period, and with what result, would involve disproportionate cost.

Imports

asked the Minister for Trade whether it is his intention to establish a body to monitor imports.

[pursuant to the reply, 12 November 1982, c. 284]: No decision has been taken to establish such a body.

National Finance

Family Income

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will update the figures on family income provided in his reply on 2 April to the hon. Member for Woolwich West, Official Report, columns 211–14, in the light of the latest information on earnings levels.

The information, including small revisions for 1981–82, is shown in the following tables. Figures for 1982–83 are provisional. Average earnings are for full time adult male manual workers. For illustration, an increase in earnings of 9 per cent. has been assumed between 1981–82 and 1982–83. The income figures include child benefit (where appropriate). It has been assumed that employees are not contracted out of the earnings related State pension scheme.

Payment appropriations in the main sectors of the Community Budget as a percentage of the total Budget in 1982 are as follows:

Per Cent.
EAGGF—Guarantee Section59·9
EAGGF—Guidance Section3·6
European Regional Development Fund4·3
European Social Fund4·9

The percentage increase in annual payments in these funds in the last two years are as follows:

Year on Year Percentage Change

1980

1981

EAGGF—Guarantee Section+8·4-3·1
EAGGF—Guidance Section+49·1+3—9
European Regional Development Fund+41·6+9·9
European Social Fund+23·4+1·5

European Assembly (Payments Of Allowances)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what additional expenditure fell to be met in the year 1980–81 and the preceding years, respectively, by reason of the payment in sterling by the European Assembly of allowances due in Irish pounds; and in which financial year or years he expects such additional expenditure to be recouped.

The Court of Auditors in its special report on the Member's cash office of the European Parliament, published in the Official Journal No. C 202 Vol. 25. 5-8-82, identified 80 cases in 1980 and 1981 where allowances which should have been paid in Irish pounds were paid in pounds sterling. These payments totalled 15,000 ecu (£8,977 sterling, converted at the average ecu/sterling exchange rate for 1980.) The European Parliament in its reply to the Court of Auditors has said that recoveries are being made as necessary.

Competitiveness

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the change in competitiveness from, respectively, the fourth quarter of 1976 and from May 1979 to date of British manufacturing industry against (a) West Germany, (b) Japan, (c) France and (d) the United States of America and his estimate in each case of the proportion of this change due to the exchange rate.

The information requested is provided in the following table. For completeness the change in relative unit labour costs before allowing for exchange rate movements are also shown.

Relative unit labour costs unadjusted for exchange rate movementsExchange ratePer cent. changes Relative unit labour costs adjusted for exchange rate movement
UK/W. Germany
1976 Q4-1982 Q2+53+ 6+63
All-industries' index of industrial production 1975 = 100, seasonally adjusted
Three month moving averages
Three months ending197419751976197719781979198019811982
January106·3103·299·6105·5107·0109·3113·0100·8100·4
February103·9102·999·9106·0107·9110·1111·7100·5100·4
March102·7102·5100·4106·3107·9110·5110·4100·2100·7
April104·3101·4101·0105·9109·0113·5108·9100·2101·0
May106·3100·1101·8106·5109·8114·7108·099·9101·2

Relative unit labour costs unadjusted for exchange rate movements

Exchange rate

Per cent. changes Relative unit labour costs adjusted for exchange rate movements

1979 Q2–1982 Q2+26+ 7+35

UK/Japan

1976 Q4–1982 Q2+80-10+61
1979 Q2–198 Q2+35-4+29

UK/France

1976 Q4–1982 Q2+13+36+53
1976 Q2–1982 Q2+ 4+23+28

UK/USA

1976 Q4–1982 Q2+19+ 8+28
1979 Q2–1982 Q2+ 9-15-7

Note 1:

A rise in relative unit labour costs implies a loss of cost competitiveness.

Note 2:

When expressed as ratios rather than percentage changes as requested the changes in columns 1 and 2 multiply together to give column 3.

Public Expenditure

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is public expenditure as a percentage of gross domestic product.

As explained in my right hon. and learned Friend's Autumn Statement, published on 8 November, public expenditure as a percentage of gross domestic product at market prices is estimated at 45 per cent. in the current financial year.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will list, on an annual basis, all cuts in public expenditure in excess of £5 million which he has made since May 1979 at both current and 1982 prices, indicating in each case the size of the cut as a percentage of the departmental budget for that year.

I refer the hon. Member to the relevant Public Expenditure White Papers (Cmnd. 7746, 7841, 8175 and 8494) and to the Autumn Statement laid before the House on 8 November last. I regret that a comprehensive analysis in the form requested could be provided only with a disproportionate expenditure of time and effort.

Industrial Production

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the three-month moving average of United Kingdom industrial Production month by month from January 1974 to the latest available date.

Three month moving averages

Three months ending

1974

1975

1976

1977

1978

1979

1980

1981

1982

June107·599·6101·9105·8111·0115·7107·499·9100·9
July107·699·0101·7105·8110·7116·1106·9100·0100·8
August107·598·5101·0105·3111·3114·8105·7100·3100·5
September106·798·3101·3106·1111·5113·1104·1100·5
October105·798·7102·4106·3111·1111·9102·6101·1
November104·599·5103·7106·1110·4112·2101·8101·3
December103·499·6104·7106·2110·6112·8101·5101·0

Source: Central Statistical Office.

Public Sector Borrowing Requirement

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will list the actual public sector borrowing requirement for each of the financial years from 1972–73 to 1981–82, giving, in each case, the figure as a percentage of that year's gross domestic product.

The information is as follows:

Public sector borrowing requirement
£ millionPercentage of gross domestic product*
1972–732,5333·8
1973–744,4596·0
1974–757,9999·1
1975–7610,6399·6
1976–778,5246·6
1977–785,5943·7
1978–799,2315·4
1979–809,9124·9
1980–8113,1945·7
1981–828,7533·4

* Percentage of GDP(E) at current market prices.

Revenue And Expenditure

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what were the final figures of total Government revenue and public expenditure in 1981–82; what percentage increase in cash terms they represent compared with the figures for 1978–79; and what was the percentage increase in the retail price index during this three-year period.

The figures requested are as follows

1981–82per cent. increase on 1978–79
General government revenue £ billion113·073
Public Expenditure Planning Total £ billion105·760
Retail Price index 15 January 1974=100302·850

Sources: National Accounts Department of Employment

Falkland Islands (Maps)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what maps of the Falkland Islands are published by her Majesty's Stationery Office; and who have been the purchasers of these maps in the last 12 months.

Maps have been included in:

The Falkland Islands—The Facts.
The Disputed Islands. The Falkland Crisis: A History and Background.
The Falkland Islands Economic Study 1982. Cmnd 8653.

These publications have been widely sold.

Wages

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what will be the net cash value of a 4 per cent. wage increase in 1983 to a man earning average industrial wages, after payment of the national insurance increase announced on 8 November, 85 pence a week rent increase, £1 a week increase in travel-to-work fares and allowing for current rates of income tax and the Government's own estimate of the level of inflation.

For a married man, with no children, earning the average weekly wage in manual occupations in manufacturing industries and paying national insurance contributions at the class I employees' contracted-in rate, the value after income tax and NICs of a 4 per cent. increase in April 1983 would be £3·88 per week, assuming that allowances are indexed in 1983 Budget as illustrated in part V of the Autumn Statement. If, in addition, his rent were to increase by 85p, and his travel-to-work fares by £1 per week, then the residual weekly net cash value of the pay increase would be £2·03.

Contingency Reserve

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer why, in view of the fact that in March he proposed a contingency reserve of £2,250 million for 1982–83 for the reasons set out in paragraphs 27 and 28 of Cmnd. 8494–, in November he provided £1,500 million for 1983–84; and if he will make a statement.

I regard £1,500 million as an appropriate size for the Contingency Reserve in 1983–84 in the light of circumstances as they appear now. The figure may be reviewed at the time of the Budget. Present indications are that the Contingency Reserve for 1982–83 is unlikely to be fully spent.

Retail Prices

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what percentage increase there has been in the retail prices index over the past five years.

Petroleum Revenue Tax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if, in the light of the fifth report from the Select Committee on Energy, he will introduce proposals to earmark receipts from petroleum revenue tax for energy conservation programmes.

Official Travel (Airlines)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the policy of Her Majesty's Government regarding the choice of airlines for Ministers and officials travelling on official business.

It has been the policy of successive Governments for Ministers and officials to use British airlines for official travel wherever possible. Where the routing or time of the journey make this impossible, or the delay involved would be against the public interest, a scheduled flight on a foreign airline may be used, in which case preference is given to well-established international airlines of Commonwealth or NATO countries. Where a British airline offers a seat on a service provided by a foreign airline this may be accepted if suitable.

Wines And Spirits (Excise Duty)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will review the case for introducing deferred payment arrangements in respect of the excise duties on wines and spirits.

My right hon. and learned Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer proposes to include in the Finance Bill 1983 provision for deferment of the payment of the excise duties on wines and spirits. Deferment will be allowed for an average period of four weeks, thus making the duty payment provisions for wines and spirits comparable with those already in force for beer, cider, made-wine cigarettes and matches.Duty deferment under the Finance Bill legislation will not become operative until after Royal Assent. However, the Scotch whisky industry in particular has for a long time sought to be allowed duty deferment for its sales to the domestic market; and in order to give relief at the earliest practicable date to this industry with its outstanding export record, I am authorising Customs and Excise to introduce duty deferment arrangements for wines and spirits from 15 February 1983 on an extra-statutory basis.To assist the smooth transition to these new duty deferment arrangements, I am also authorising Customs and Excise exceptionally to extend the average period of deferment to five weeks for wines and spirits cleared between 15 February and 14 May 1983.

Home Department

Younger Offenders

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what progress has been made in introducing penalties for young offenders; and if he will make a statement.

Part I of the Criminal Justice Act 1982 makes substantial changes to the provisions governing the sentencing and treatment of young offenders. We envisage the implementation of this part of the Act in the course of next year, as soon as the appropriate preparations have been made and resources provided where necessary.

Mr Luke Fordjour

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will ask the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis to keep him informed of the progress of police investigations into the attack on Mr. Luke Fordjour.

I understand from the commissioner that, following a full investigation of an attack on Mr. Fordjour, the decision was taken on legal advice that there was insufficient evidence to support a prosecution. A complaint againt the officer in charge of the case is currently being investigated.

Capital Punishment

Lewis asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will take the necessary steps, if necessary by introducing legislation, to enable judges to have the opportunity of recommending to him capital punishment where, in the opinion of the trial judge, a person convicted of murder of a bestial or vicious type would deserve to be awarded such a penalty.

No. The outcome of the debate on 11 May this year on amendments to the Criminal Justice Bill proposing the reintroduction of capital punishment for all or certain kinds of murder leaves no reason to believe that the majority of Members of this House would favour legislation on the lines that the hon. Member suggests.

Voting Rights

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) whether arrangements have been made to remove from the electoral register those at present included but whose status will be changed with the coming into force of the British Nationality Act 1981;(2) if he will take steps to prevent citizens of the Republic of Ireland voting in United Kingdom elections after the coming into force of the British Nationality Act 1981

The Government have made clear that the coming into force of the British Nationality Act 1981 is not intended to affect entitlement to be registered as an elector or the right to vote in United Kingdom elections.

Disabled Persons (Postal Votes)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will recommend that postal voting for disabled persons be allowed for parish council elections.

We have invited the National Association of Local Councils to give us information about the feasibility and costs of providing absent voting facilities at parish and community council elections.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will seek to introduce a system for postal or proxy voting for those confined at home or in hospital during the last two weeks of an election campaign.

We are examining the timetable for absent voting to see whether there is any scope for bringing the closing date for receipt of applications for absent votes nearer polling day. The closing date has, however, to be set sufficiently in advance of polling day to allow postal ballot papers to be sent out and returned before the close of poll.

Bedford Prison

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, of the £96 million to be allocated in the Chancellor of the Exchequer's autumn statement to law and order programmes, including the police and prisons, how much he estimates is likely to be applied for the modernisation or expansion of Her Majesty's prison, Bedford.

None; but discussions are starting with the district council at its invitation to acquire land for the limited expansion of this small site.

Prisoners (Photographic Records)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is his policy towards updating photographic records of long-term prisoners so that a recognisable picture is available for issue to the media for recognition purposes in the event of an escape; and if he will make a statement.

All prisoners sentenced to more than three years' imprisonment or serving an indeterminate sentence should be re-photographed no later than two years from the date of reception and at two-yearly intervals thereafter.Additionally, any prisoner whose appearance has so changed that his reception photograph is no longer a true likeness should be photographed again.

Mr Mervyn Leroy Phillips

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what investigation was carried out by his Department into how Mervyn Leroy Phillips came to suffer a heart attack while detained at Ashford remand centre, as a result of which he died there in June 1981; and if he will publish the results of such an investigation.

Any death in a prison department establishment is referred to HM coroner who is responsible for inquiring into the circumstances. An inquest on Mr. Phillips' death was held in public on 8 October 1981 and the jury returned a verdict of death by natural causes.

Crime Statistics

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what are the smallest geographical areas for which crime figures are available.

The information collected centrally on notifiable offences recorded by the police is for police force areas only.

Police (Pay)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the present percentage value of that element of police pay which reflects the fact that the police may not strike.

This is not reflected by a quantifiable amount but the Edmund-Davies committee took it into account in framing its recommendations on police pay.

Licensed Premises (Wales)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will review the existing legislation on the Welsh licensed premises referendum with a view to seeking to include a local option by means of a resolution of a district council.

Police Interviews (Tape Recording)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how he intends to take forward the recommendations of the Royal Commission on criminal procedure on the tape recording of police interviews with suspects.

The Royal Commission recommended the gradual introduction of tape recording, to be used in indictable cases for the making and reading back of the summary of the interview or of a written statement. During the debate on the Royal Commission's report on 20 November 1981 I accepted the principle of tape recording, while making it clear that problems of a practical nature and of resources had to be overcome.To enable a better assessment of these difficulties to be made I now intend that field trails should be established in about six areas of police divisional size. These trials will begin in the financial year 1983–84 and last for at least two years. To this end a steering committee under Home Office chairmanship will be established. It will consist of representatives of Government departments, and in addition outside bodies which represent those with an interest in the working of the trials will be invited to serve on it. The steering committee will have the following terms of reference:

"To devise and oversee field trials for the tape recording of police interviews with suspects; to assess the effects on practice and procedure in the criminal justice process, the improvements which would result and the likely costs and savings; to determine how far the field trials show that an effective and economic basis can be found for a national scheme; and to recommend how, subject to the availability of resources, such a scheme might be introduced."

Many of those who commented on the Royal Commission's proposals expressed dissatisfaction with the recommendation that tape recording should be limited to the summarising of interviews and the taking of statements, and preferred the recording of entire interviews. I accept these views and propose therefore that the field trials should proceed on the basis of the recording of entire interviews, but, as the Royal Commission recognised would be necessary, only those interviews which take place in properly equipped rooms in police stations. I intend to use the opportunity of the forthcoming Police and Criminal Evidence Bill to seek powers which would enble me to make regulations governing the circumstances in which tape recordings should be made, but without contemplating the exercise of such powers during the course of the field trials.

The Royal Commission's research demonstrated that the running costs of tape recording are critically dependent on the extent of transcription. I therefore intend that the field trials be conducted so far as possible on the basis that tape recorded evidence should not be used routinely as evidence of first instance, but should be available chiefly in support of existing procedures, for example to enhance the quality of written records and to resolve dispute. The capital costs of establishing the field trials are estimated to be in the order of £130,000, £30,000 of which can be provided from central Home Office funds as a contribution to the cost of recording equipment. The remaining costs, principally for the acoustic upgrading of interview rooms, would fall to police authorities whose areas participate in the trials and would rank for police grant.

I am confident that the establishment of field trials offers the best way of determining whether the practical difficulties can be resolved and whether an economic and effective basis can be found on which tape recording might be introduced nationally. The Steering Committee has an important task in establishing the field trials, and its work in monitoring and evaluating the field trials will be crucial in informing future decisions about tape recording. I am particularly grateful that the Association of Chief Police Officers, the Association of Metropolitan Authorities, and the Association of County Councils have given their support to the principle of the field trials and have indicated their readiness to participate in the work of the steering committee.

Prescriptions (Merseyside)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will call for a report by the Chief Constable of the Merseyside police on the investigation by the fraud squad of the Merseyside police into the allegation of the irregular issue of National Health Service prescriptions in the Sefton area of Merseyside referred to in the answer by the Minister for Health on 19 April, Official Report, c. 45; and if he will make a statement.

The Chief Constable of Merseyside tells us that a report of the police investigation into this allegation was submitted to the Director of Public Prosecutions, who decided that there was no evidence that a criminal offence had been committed.

Prime Minister

Questions To Ministers

asked the Prime Minister if she will ensure that when Ministers reply to a question from an hon. Member by stating that they will write a letter, such letters are automatically placed in the Library.

I will arrange for Ministers to be reminded that, where appropriate, a copy of such letters should be placed in the Library of the House, as the hon. Member suggests.

Sir Anthony Parsons

asked the Prime Minister if she will now make a statement on the duties and terms of reference of the appointment of Sir Anthony Parsons as her personal adviser on foreign affairs.

Falkland Islands

asked the Prime Minister what representations Her Majesty's Government have had from Mr. Ted Needham, chairman of Coalite, on the issue of assisted passages to the Falklands and temporary homes for settlers.

Mr. Needham has recently returned from a visit to the Falkland Islands. He called on the Minister of State at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office on 3 November to discuss various matters arising out of that visit. Assisted passages and temporary housing for settlers were among the subjects discussed but no representations were made.

asked the Prime Minister, pursuant to the statement of the Foreign and Commonwealth Secretary, Official Report, 4 November, c. 125, when Her Majesty's Government will have completed their study of Lord Shackleton's recommendations on the development of the Falkland Islands.

The islanders' preliminary views on Lord Shackleton's recommendations have now been received and we hope shortly to be in a position to announce our decisions on the development of the islands.

asked the Prime Minister if she proposes to hold all-party talks on the future of the Falkland Islands.

Franks Committee

asked the Prime Minister if, in view of the volume of work and evidence before the Franks committee, she will suggest to Lord Franks that two Clerks from the House of Commons should be seconded to his staff.

I understand that the committee considers that the resources already available to it are perfectly adequate.

Teachers (Qualifications)

asked the Prime Minister what number and percentage of the newly trained teachers who qualified in Scottish colleges of education in the summer of 1982 hold qualifications as teachers which will after 31 August 1984 be deemed insufficient for employment as teachers in England and Wales under the revised regulation recently issued by the Department of Education and Science.

All teachers who qualify in Scottish colleges of education in 1982 will continue to be acceptable in future as qualified teachers in England and Wales. But about a quarter of those taking primary courses, some 400, are not graduates and therefore hold qualifications which after this year will not be acceptable for those qualifying as teachers in England and Wales. We have no information on how many do not have qualifications equivalent to 'O' levels in mathematics and English, which will be a requirement for those qualifiying as teachers in England and Wales after 31 August 1984.

Mr Geoffrey Prime

asked the Prime Minister whether Geoffrey Arthur Prime's membership of the Paedophile Information Exchange organisation was brought to the attention of the police or security agencies.

I understand that stories that the police found documents in Prime's house or garage indicating that he was a member of the paedophile information exchange are without foundation, and that nothing has been discovered to suggest that he was.

Education And Science

Nursery Schools

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what progress has been made in the expansion of nursery schools in recent years; and if he will make a statement.

Between 1977 and 1981 the number of children receiving nursery education in LEA maintained schools increased by some 35,000 to about 222,000. This increase arose mainly through increased part-time attendance at nursery classes attached to primary schools. Provisional statistics for 1982 indicate a further increase in numbers.

Cockcroft Report

Page asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what progress has been made on the implementation of the recommendations of the Cockcroft report on the teaching of mathematics; and if he will make a statement.

The Cockcroft report has been warmly welcomed across the whole of the education service. That response was to be expected: the report has set out an analysis of the purposes of mathematics education in schools which is striking in its realism and lucidity. It has put forward recommendations for improving the teaching of mathematics which call for early action by all involved. The Government is ready to play its part in taking that action.Our first priority has been to secure the widest possible dissemination of the conclusions and recommendations of the report. Her Majesty's Inspectors have been active in this respect, and my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for wales and I are grateful to the members of the Cockcroft committee who have accepted invitations to speak about their work to a wide variety of audiences. Much of the task of dissemination falls on the local education authorities: many have taken steps to draw the report to the attention of at least their secondary schools, but we hope that all authorities will consider what more they can do within the resources available to them to disseminate the report's findings and to stimulate the necessary follow-up at the local level.Awareness of the report is increasing in many secondary schools; its conclusions are not yet so well known in primary schools and among employers of school leavers. My Department is accordingly preparing a booklet for primary school teachers, drawing their attention to the report and its relevance to their work. I have in addition invited Dr. P. G. Wakely, a member of the Cockcroft committee and formerly chairman and managing director of Associated Engineering Developments Ltd. to prepare a short guide to the report for the industrial and commercial audience. Both of these should be available early in the new year.The report identifies six agencies whose active response the committee believed to be essential if changes in mathematical education are to be brought about. The Government accepts that, among these agencies, they should take the lead. Activities at national level will have little effect unless they are matched by complementary action on the part of local education authorities, the examination boards, training institutions, those who fund and carry out curriculum development and educational research, and especially teachers themselves. I and my colleagues intend to invite representatives of each of these groups to meet us to discuss their response to the report and the action they intend to take.The committee placed special emphasis on the importance of in-service support for teachers of mathematics in primary and secondary schools as a necessary condition of improvement. I accept the case it has made. The local authorities have and will retain the dominant responsibility for ensuring adequate programmes of in-service training for their teachers. On 1 September I announced my intention to introduce a scheme for in-service training grants in a small number of selected sectors of the curriculum which should have national priority. Mathematics will be one of those. The emphasis in this scheme will be on the release of teachers to attend a limited range of designated courses. The Cockcroft committee was also concerned with the wider issue of the support provided for mathematics teachers and I expect that local education authorities, who have the main responsibility in these matters, will take particular note of the relevant recommendations in planning their policy for advisory and support services.The committee made a number of recommendations on the supply and training of mathematics teachers. It was concerned with increasing supply so as to make good shortages. At present the supply position looks more favourable, with healthy recruitment to the postgraduate certificate in education in mathematics. Within the current restructuring of initial teacher training my objective has been to maintain the number of secondary training places in mathematics, and I expect enrolments to continue at their existing high level. I expect that falling pupil numbers in secondary schools in the remainder of this decade will reduce the overall demand for secondary teachers, including mathematicians. Buoyant recruitment to training coupled with the prospect of falling demand casts doubt on the immediate need for new measures to boost supply. I shall however continue to monitor the position—at present the increased numbers of newly trained mathematics specialists leaving colleges are obtaining teaching posts—and will give further consideration to the need for additional measures to increase the supply of mathematics teachers.The committee drew attention to the influence which examinations exert on the secondary curriculum and rightly emphasised the need for examinations to support and encourage good teaching practice. The working party on mathematics of the joint council of GCE and CSE Boards is currently preparing draft criteria for examinations at 16+ for submission to my right hon. Friend and me later this year. Before we approve the criteria we shall want to be satisfied that they take account of the analysis and recommendations of the Cockcroft committee.The committee was also concerned, as I am, about the needs of those pupils for whom public examinations at 16+ are not designed. The introduction of graded tests, based on the foundation list developed by the committee, is likely to prove to be the right way forward; and I have already announced the Government's intention to fund a feasibility study of means of providing evidence of achievement in mathematics for lower attaining pupils as recommended in the report. The Government proposes to make available up to £0·5 million in total over the next three years for this study and for complementary research and curriculum development relating to the foundation list of mathematical topics, bids for this work will shortly be invited. Steps are also being taken to implement the committee's recommendation that an appraisal should be made of the educational implications—for all pupils—of the mathematics testing which has been carried out by the assessment of performance unit.Our task is to build on the foundations which the Cockcroft committee has laid: there is much that can be achieved even at a time when resources are necessarily constrained, and I am confident that the education service as a whole will capitalise on the unique opportunity which the report gives us to rethink and improve the teaching of a subject which is vital to us all.

Radio-Nucleides

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what research is being done with Government money on the effects of emission of radio-nucleides on krill.

Youth Service

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) what was the expenditure per head of population for each English local education authority on youth service provision in each year since 1974;(2) what was the expenditure per head of population aged nil to 15 years and aged 11 to 18 years for each English local education authority on youth service provision in each year since 1974;(3) what was the expenditure per head of population on the youth service in England in each year since 1974;(4) what was the total local education authority expenditure for each local education authority in England on youth service provision in each year since 1974;(5) what was the proportion of each individual local education authority's total expenditure spent on youth service provision for each individual local education authority in England in each year since 1974;(6) what proportion of full or part-time youth service staff has a professional qualification in youth work, social work or related fields for

(a) England and (b) each local education authority in England;

(7) what was the number of local authority (a) full-time officers, (b) part-time workers and (c) full-time workers to each 10,000 head of total population for (i) England and (ii) each individual local education authority in England in each year since 1974;

(8) how many (a) full-time youth officers, (b) full-time youth workers and (c) part-time workers existed in each local education authority in England in each year since 1974;

(9) if he will publish in the Official Report details of departmental capital grant allocation to local education authorities for local voluntary youth organisations in each year since 1974 by local education authority and by voluntary agency;

(10) what was the total indentifiable expenditure within his Department for youth provision in each year since 1974 by (a) local education authority and (b) support for voluntary agencies.

The hon. Member will find much of the available information about youth service expenditure and staffing in England in chapter 10 of the report of the Review Group on the Youth Service (Cmnd. 8686), copies of which are in the Library. I will write to him shortly with further detailed information.

Student Grants

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what new system will be introduced in 1983 to work out the travel allowance element in student grants; and what effect this will have.

Details of the new system are still being considered. A further announcement will be made in due course.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will publish in the Official Report figures to show the percentage increase in student grants over the past four years and the proposed increase for 1983; and what were the rates of inflation for the corresponding periods.

The percentage increase in the ordinary maintenance grant for mandatory awardholders living away from home outside London over the past four years and the proposed increase for 1983; and the percentage change in the retail price index for the corresponding periods is as follows:

Academic YearPercentage Change in Ordinary Maintenance GrantPercentage Change in Retail Price Index
1979–8013·216·5
1980–8114·915·8
1981–827·311·4
1982–833·97·3
1983–844·0*5·0

* Estimate

Medical And Dental Students

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what was the total intake of medical and dental students, respectively, in the current academic year; and how this compares with the intake for 1981.

In academic year 1981–82, there were 4,926 undergraduate and 1,307 postgraduate new entrants to courses of medicine and dentistry in the universities of Great Britain. No comparable figures for the current academic year are yet available, but early information from the Universities Central Council on Admissions in respect of the numbers of candidates accepted for courses at undergraduate level suggests that last year's level will at least be maintained.

National Union Of Students

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will make a statement on the recent meeting of the Under-Secretary of State and the National Union of Students.

I had a wide-ranging discussion with the National Union of Students on a number of points arising from its recent submission on student awards and my right hon. Friend's statement of 8 November. In the course of this I made it clear that while details of the rates and conditions of award for 1983–84 remained to be settled, I could hold out no prospect of major new resources for student support.

Employment

Apprenticeships

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many apprenticeships were started (a) in the engineering industry, (b) in the construction industry and (c) in total in the years 1979, 1980, 1981 and 1982.

The numbers of first-year apprentices recruited by firms in scope to the engineering industry training board were as follows:

YearNumbers
1979–8022,822
1980–8120,541
1981–8214,639
These figures relate to the training year, which starts in August. The figure for 1982–83 is not yet available but is expected to be about 11,000.For firms in scope to the construction industry training board the number of first year apprentices recruited were:

YearNumbers
197920,770
198021,874
198117,284
These figures related to calendar years. The figure for 1982 is not yet available.Figures for total apprentice recruitment are not available, but estimates based on extrapolations from industrial training organisations' statistics suggest that about 100,000 apprentices were recruited in the 1979–80 training year and 90,000 in 1980–81. The provisional estimate for 1981–82 is 60,000.

Doctors

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many doctors have been unemployed in each year since 1975.

The following table gives, at September each year from 1975, the numbers of unemployed people registered at employment offices in the United Kingdom for employment as medical practitioners.

September each yearNumbers
1975247
1976218
1977344
1978390
1979431
1980493
19811,020
19821,418

Unemployment Blackspots

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether the changes in the method of calculating unemployment levels will enable him to pinpoint unemployment blackspots better than was possible with calculations based on travel-to-work areas.

Although the changed basis for the unemployment figures will allow the actual numbers of unemployed to be compiled for some areas other than employment office areas (or groupings of them), unemployment rates will still be compiled only for travel-to-work areas.

Service Personnel

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many Service men who served in the Falklands conflict and have since registered as unemployed after leaving Her Majesty's forces are now unemployed; and how may have been without a job of any kind since they left the Services.

The information is not available. My Department's unemployment statistics do not separately distinguish this group of unemployed people.

Youth Training Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the new youth training scheme.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave him on 19 October.—[Vol. 29, c. 218.]

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) what arrangements he is making to ensure that when the youth training scheme, provided for in the new training initiative of the Manpower Services Commission, becomes operative, employers do not substitute trainees under the scheme for their regular apprentice intake;(2)if he intends that employers should continue to observe the relevant national and local agreements about apprentice rates of pay where trainees under the new youth training scheme are undergoing the same training as apprentices in the same establishment.

Collective agreements, on apprentice training as on other subjects, are a matter for the parties to the agreements, and not for the Government or the Manpower Services Commission.The general question of the relationship between apprentice training and the youth training scheme will be considered by the youth training board, on which the Confederation of British Industry and the Trades Union Congress are represented.

Construction And Engineering Industries

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what amounts of money have been allocated for their training for skills programmes to the Construction Industry Training Board and the Engineering Industry Training Board for the years 1981–82 and 1982–83; and how this compares with the amounts made available for each of the preceding five years.

Funds were offered under the training for skills programme to the Construction Industry Training Board and the Engineering Industry Training Board in the year 1976–77 to 1982–83 as follows:

£ '000s
Construction industry training boardEngineering industry training board
1976–773,4895,860
1977–783,5005,455
1978–794,8006,474
1979–806,7799,889
1980–8112,61417,440
1981–8213,98127,706
1982–8311,20031,750

asked the Secretary of State for Employment which Government grants are being made to the Construction Industry Training Board for 1982–83 and 1983–84; and how these sums compare with the amounts similarly made available, excluding levies on employers, in 1980–81 and 1981–82.

£11·2 million has been offered to the construction industry training board under the training for skills programme for the financial year ending 31 March 1983. As yet no formal offer of funds has been made to the construction industry training board for the financial year 1 April 1983 to 31 March 1984; this is still being discussed. In the 1981–82 financial year £13·98 million, and in the 1980–81 financial year £12·61 million were offered to the board under the training for skills programme.

"A New Training Initiative"

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what arrangements have so far been made for the defining and testing of standards of individual competence in the acquisition of craft, technician and professional skills as envisaged in the White Paper "A New Training Initiative: a Programme for Action", Cmnd. 8455; and if he will make a statement.

The Manpower Services Commission is working with a wide range of bodies in industry and further education to develop standards of attainment which are clearly defined, widely accepted and cost effective for all key occupations. In the initial stages, particular attention is being paid to engineering, construction, road transport, clerical and office and computer occupations. I am monitoring progress closely.

Average Earnings

asked the Secretary of State for Employment, pursuant to his reply on the retail prices index to the hon. Member for Mid-Sussex (Mr. Renton) on 22 October, Official Report, c. 241–42, on what basis the monthly index of average earnings is compiled; to what extent it is a matter of judgment rather than measurement; what sources exist on the method of construction; and what recent changes have been made.

The average earnings index is designed to provide an up to date monthly indicator of changes in average earnings. It is based on returns from a sample of just over 9,000 firms and organisations with a total employment of about 10 million.The method of constructing the index and changes in its scope and coverage were described in the following issues of

Employment Gazette: April 1963 (page 142), March 1967 (page 214) and April 1976 (page 350).

The method of compiling the basic index has not changed since 1976. It is essentially a matter of measurement rather than judgment, being based on detailed and representative quantitative information compiled on well established statistical procedures.

From this basic series, two others are derived to facilitate the assessment of trends. One is the seasonally adjusted index which was introduced in 1980 as described in Employment Gazette for October 1980 (page 1132). The other is the "underlying trend" index, which excludes from the seasonally adjusted index the estimated effects of temporary fluctuations, from such factors as large payments of back pay, which tend to obscure the trend. This was introduced in 1981 as described in Employment Gazette for April 1981 (page 193). Both these series aim to be a measure, on the basis of regular and defined estimation procedures, rather than a matter of judgment, but inevitably have less precision than the basic series from which they are derived.

Bermondsey

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will give the latest figures, broken down by Standard Industrial Classification, of unemployment in the travel-to-work areas covering the parliamentary constituency of Bermondsey.

School Meals

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list the sample of local education authorities referred to in the answer of the Under-Secretary of State for Education and Science on 11 November on which his Department bases its calculations of movements in school meals charges for inclusion in the retail prices index, together with details of any changes made in the sample since May 1979.

For the purposes of compiling the retail prices index, a sample of about 50 local education authorities are asked to supply selected school meals prices each term.The sample is representative of non-metropolitan counties, metropolitan districts and other local education authorities in the United Kingdom. It is not the practice to disclose the names of contributors of information for the retail prices index. The sample dates from the spring term of 1980; previously there was a national statutory charge for school meals.

Employment And Careers Services

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is Her Majesty's Government's response to the recommendation of the recent Rayner scrutiny that there should be a review of relationships between the Employment and Careers Services; and what further Government support will be given to help the Careers Service discharge its role in the youth training scheme.

The scrutiny team, under the direction of Sir Derek Rayner, which looked at the Manpower Services Commission's employment service recommended that there should be

"an independent review of the responsibilities and requirements of the careers service and the employment service in the young person's sector".
The Manpower Services Commission has stated its willingness to co-operate in such a review if the Government were to decide on one.Priority over the next few months must be given to the launch of the youth training scheme. I therefore intend to reconsider the case for a review after the sceme has been brought fully into operation.The Government intend to continue in 1983–84 their present directly-funded support for careers service staffing and to make available to the service micro-computers for their work concerning young people and the youth training scheme.Following a proposal from the national consultative group on computers in the careers service, the Department of Employment, in consultation with the Scottish and Welsh Offices and with the Manpower Services Commission, will develop a standard programme for micro-computers by which the careers service will be able to maintain records of opportunities under the youth training scheme, likely candidates, their placement and progress under the scheme. The Government will make an additional £1 million available spread over the financial years 1983–84 and 1984–85 to local educational authorities in Great Britain which are prepared to make matching contributions to the cost of installing micro-computers in careers offices for this programme.

Government Manpower

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many people were employed in general Government, excluding the Armed Forces, in 1970, 1978, and for the most recent year for which figures are available on a comparative basis in the United Kingdom, Germany, the United States of America and France; and if he will show each of these figures as a percentage of total employment, excluding the unemployed.

I have been asked to reply.No later comparative information on general Government employment is available than was given in my reply of 28 January 1982 to my hon. Friend the Member for Norfolk, North (Mr. Howell). As was stated in that reply, because of institutional and other differences between countries, overall comparisons of total general government employment are of limited significance. Accordingly there are no plans to update the information published in the December 1980 issue of

Economic Trends.

Public Expenditure

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list, on an annual basis, all cuts in public expenditure in excess of £5 million which he has made since May 1979 at both current and 1982 prices, indicating in each case the size of the cut as a percentage of the departmental budget for that year.

I have been asked to reply.I refer the hon. Member to the relevant Public Expenditure White Papers (Cmnd. 7746, 7841, 8175 and 8494) and to the Autumn Statement laid before the House of 8 November last. I regret that a comprehensive analysis in the form requested could be provided only with a disproportionate expenditure of time and effort.

Attorney-General

Strongbridge Housing Association

asked the Attorney-General if he will seek to obtain a copy of the report prepared for the Greater London Council on the Strongbridge housing association and send it to the Director of Public Prosecutions.

The Director of Public Prosecutions has already received from the Metropolitan Police the notes prepared by Mr. Andrew Arden relating to the Strongbridge housing association.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Falkland Islands

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if the recent United Nations vote on the Falklands defined the Falklands as including the dependencies.

No. The resolution refers only to "the Falkland Islands (Malvinas)". This, in our view, does not include the Falkland Islands Dependencies.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether Her Majesty's Government have a planned time scale for commencing negotiations with Argentina on the future of the Falkland Islands; and if he will make a statement.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether facilities will be made available to assist with building materials and construction equipment homesteaders going to the Falklands.

This is in the first instance a matter for the Falkland Islands Government who are now examining the possibilities. I have no doubt that they will advise us in due course if they consider that such a scheme is desirable.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what statements have been made in the past month by President Bignone of Argentina about that country's policy towards a peaceful solution of the Falklands conflict; and what response Her Majesty's Government have made.

The Argentine Government have made no formal statement of its policy to us, although I understand that President Bignone said in a television broadcast on 5 November that Argentina was resolved to achieve a peaceful solution to the Falkland Islands issue. Such a policy would be welcome. However, other Argentina military leaders continue to issue beligerent statements, and the Junta still refuses to declare a definitive cessation of hostilities in the South Atlantic or to renounce the future use of force.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether any special steps are being taken to preserve the fragile life-style of the Falkland islanders.

Ministers are well aware of the need to preserve the Falkland Islands' way of life as far as possible, and are taking the islanders' views fully into account in deciding on proposals for the future development of the islands.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, pursuant to the statement of the Minister of State, Official Report, 4 November, c. 209, when he hopes to make a statement on the completion of his study of air runways in the Falklands, taking into account civil and military needs; and if he has now studied the diversion scheme of the Austral Islands in the Southern Pacific in relation to the Falklands.

Planning for future airport facilities in the Falkland Islands is still under active study. Before civil air operations are established, very thorough consideration will be given to all possible diversion arrangements.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, pursuant to the speech of the Minister of State on 4 November, Official Report, c. 211, if Her Majesty's Government have completed their consideration of the matter of negotiations between Argentina and the United States of America on the Falkland Islands; and if he will make a statement.

The issue raised falls within the terms of reference of the review being conducted by the Committee of Privy Councillors, chaired by Lord Franks, on the events leading up to the Argentine invasion on 2 April. Until the committee has reported, it would not be appropriate to give an answer to this question.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will seek to hold discussions with the Government of Brazil about the future of the Falkland Islands.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what discussions he has had with the Russians about krill fishing in the Falklands.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what plans he has for the provision of internal transport in the Falklands, including the use of a Ben-Huey helicopter.

At present internal air transport in the Falklands is provided by the military authorities. One Beaver and two Islander aircraft have been ordered as replacements for the severely-damaged FIGAS aircraft. The first of these is expected to reach the Islands in early December and should be operational by the end of the year. We hope that arrangements can be made to enable the captured Bell-Huey helicopter to operate a civilian passenger service in the near future.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what needs exist for local produce to supply the troops in the Falklands; what assistance Her Majesty's Government are offering to those who wish to purchase land in the Falklands in order to provide this produce; and whether Her Majesty's Government will consider the long-term position of those who may emigrate to the islands with the aim of supplying produce and whose livelihoods would subsequently be affected by a reduction in troop numbers in the islands.

In considering the future economic development of the islands, the Government are well aware that the civilian population should not become too dependent on the garrison. There is close liaison between the civil and military authorities on the islands and such questions as the supply of local produce for the troops are regularly discussed. Development assistance of all kinds is under active consideration by Ministers in the context of the proposals in the Shackleton economic study.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs (1) if he will consult with Mr. Ted Needham, chairman of Coalite, on plans to sell off 50-acre plots to potential homesteaders;(2) what consultations he has had with representatives of the Falkland Islanders on the proposed sale by Coalite of 50-acre plots of land, between Stanley and Darwin, and whether he will ensure that no decision is taken unless the approval of those currently living on the islands is secured.

The chairman of the Falkland Islands Company called on me on 3 November to discuss various aspects of his recent visit to the islands. He told me in general terms about the possibility of the sale of 50-acre plots, which is entirely a matter for his company, and which I understand he has already mentioned to the Falkland Islands Government.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will ensure that the views of the Falklands Islanders are sought, if necessary by a referendum, before Her Majesty's Government commit themselves to using large parts of the islands as battle training areas.

It has always been the practice to seek permission from the owners of any land in the Falkland Islands used for military purposes. I am not aware of any objections by them or other islanders to actual or proposed military activities. They are free to express their views through their elected representatives, the Falkland Islands councillors.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will list the files relating to the Falkland Islands which have been withdrawn from the Public Record Office for research by his Department; and when he expects that these files will be returned.

No. As I explained in my letter to the hon. Member of 6 July, such a list could only be produced at disproportionate expense. Files which are no longer required are returned promptly to the Public Record Office.

North Korea

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs why Her Majesty's Government do not recognise North Korea as a State.

Because of the exceptional circumstances in Korea, arising in part from the involvement of the United Nations in the Korean question, recognition of North Korea as a State would not be appropriate.

International Radio Communications (Interference)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what progress has been made in the current year in persuading the Soviet Union to comply with its international obligations to eliminate transmissions which interfere with United Kingdom and international radio communications.

The Soviet Union has continued to jam the BBC Russian and Polish services and other foreign radio broadcasts, in contravention of article 35 of the Convention of the International Telecommunication Union and of its commitment in the CSCE Final Act to

"facilitate the freer and wider dissemination of information of all kinds."
The Government have protested on a number of occasions, both bilaterally to the Soviet and Polish Governments and at the CSCE review meeting at Madrid, but have received no satisfactory reply.

North Atlantic Assembly (Delegation)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will list in the Official Report the United Kingdom parliamentary delegation to the North Atlantic Assembly.

The delegation appointed in March was as follows:

  • Sir Patrick Wall MP (Leader)
  • Lord Lucas of Chilworth
  • Earl of Kimberley
  • The right honourable Lord Mayhew
  • Lord Wynne-Jones
  • Mr. Robert Banks MP
  • Mr. John Cartwright MP
  • Dr. David Clark MP
  • Mr. Julian Critchley MP
  • Mr. Patrick Duffy MP
  • Mr. Bruce George MP
  • Sir Victor Goodhew MP
  • Sir Geoffrey Johnson Smith MP
  • Mr. Robert McCrindle MP
  • Mr. Kenneth Marks MP
  • Sir Julian Ridsdale MP
  • Mr. Peter Snape MP
  • Mr. Peter Viggers MP
Following the death of Lord Wynne-Jones, Lord Lovell-Davies has been appointed a member of the delegation.

Departmental Morale

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what steps he has taken to increase the morale of his Department since the invasion of the Falkland Islands.

Members of the Diplomatic Service are well aware that they enjoy my full confidence.

United Nations General Assembly (Resolutions)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what are the differences in effect of mandatory resolutions of the United Nations and votes of the General Assembly; and what is the policy of Her Majesty's Government with regard to compliance with these categories of resolution.

Mandatory resolutions may be passed only by the Security Council in accordance with the relevant provisions of the Charter. Such resolutions are binding upon members of the United Nations and must be carried out by them in good faith. Resolutions passed by the General Assembly are recommendatory and nonbinding in character. Our policy is to comply scrupulously with mandatory resolutions of the Security Council and to determine our attitude to other resolutions according to their merits.

Departmental Finance

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will publish a breakdown of the increase in provision for the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, including the Overseas Development Administration, from £1,558 million in 1982–83 to £1,689 million in 1983–84 (Treasury Autumn Statement 1982).

The breakdown of the increase of £131 million from 1982–83 to 1983–84 for the two wings of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office is diplomatic wing £36 million, overseas development administration £95 million.The increase in the provision for the diplomatic wing is made up as follows: overseas representation £12 million; overseas information £18 million; other external relations £6 million.£85 million of the overseas development administration increase is for the net aid programme and most of the rest provides for the extra costs of supplements for overseas pensioners. Since the publication of the White Paper (Cmnd. 8494) referred to in the Autumn Statement the net aid programme provision for 1982–83 has been increased by nearly £9 million as announced by my right hon. Friend the Minister for Overseas Development in his replies to my hon. Friend the Member for Lincoln (Mr. Carlisle) on 28 October and to my hon. Friend the Member for Hertford and Stevenage (Mr. Wells) on 8 November.Some of the figures may be subject to detailed technical amendment before publication of the 1983 Public Expenditure White Paper.—[Vol. 29, c.

516; Vol. 31, c. 42.]

General Chipande (Visit)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what was the purpose of the visit of General Chipande from Mozambique; and which Ministers he met.

General Chipande, the Mozambican Minister of Defence, visited the United Kingdom from 2 to 7 November at the invitation of Her Majesty's Government, under the arrangements made each year for visits by senior ministers of foreign countries. During his visit, General Chipande called on the Secretary of State for Defence, the Minister of State for the Armed Forces, and on me.

Overseas Development

Aid Programme

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if, in the light of the Chancellor of the Exchequer's statement on 8 November and the autumn statement 1982, he will now state the United Kingdom overseas aid expenditure for 1983– and how this compares at constant prices with the estimated expenditure in 1982–83 and the outturn for 1981–82.

The net aid programme proposed for 1983–84, subject to possible minor technical adjustments, is £1,035 million in cash. Sums equal to the expected repayments of capital on past aid loans would also be provided to be used as new aid grants or loans. The addition of these sums to the provisions for the net aid programme gives the gross aid programme.There is no single way of expressing cash provisions in constant prices. Adjustment for general United Kingdom inflation as measured by the GDP delator and using the forecast increase of 7½ per cent. in 1982–83 and 5 per cent. in 1983–84, as shown in the Autumn Statement 1982, gives the following figures for net aid programme provisions in cost terms:

Cost terms (base year 1981–82)
£ million
1981–82972
1982–83892
1983–84917
The corresponding gross aid programme figures would be:

Cost terms (base year 1981–82)
£ million
1981–821,029
1982–83956
1983–84979
In both cases the 1981–82 figures are the funds provided as the final outturn figures are not yet available.

Falkland Islands

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what was the cost of 54 prefabricated fully-furnished houses built in the Falkland Islands for visiting specialists; and what was paid to Swedish concerns for the Swedish element in the houses.

54 fully-furnished prefabricated houses are to be erected in Port Stanley as part of the civilian rehabilitation programme. They will be used both to re-house residents whose homes were damaged beyond repair during the invasion and to provide accommodation for some of the specialists recently recruited. The project is expected to cost about £5·6 million. Some 20 per cent. of this sum represents the contractor's payment for Swedish components.

Industry

Shipbuilding

36.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether any progress has been made in formulating a scrap and build scheme for shipbuilding.

Scrap and build was last discussed at the Council of Ministers on 20 November 1979. There was considerable scepticism among member States as to whether any form of scrap and build would be cost effective, and the Commission has not put any fresh ideas forward since then.

Accountants And Consultants

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will list the occasions on which his Department has used from outside the Civil Service (a) accountants, (b) management consultants and (c) other consultants since June 1979, giving in each case the dates and nature of the assignment, together with the names of the individuals, partnerships or institutions involved.

The Department of Industry's use of accounting firms during 1979–82 was as follows:1980

Peat Marwick Mitchell & Co.

Advice on corporate plans of an industrial company

1981

Touche Ross & Co.

Review of the Department's financial information system
Rationalisation of bright steel bar manufacturing

Coopers & Lybrand

Rationalisation of steel wire drawing industry

1982

Deloitte Haskins & Sells

Heavy steel forgings rationalisation scheme
Rationalisation of cold rolled narrow strip steel manufacturing

Robson Rhodes

Business failures under small businesses loan guarantee scheme

Consultants are employed on a wide range of subjects within the Department's responsibilities. The detailed information required cannot be provided except at disproportionate cost.

Steel Imports

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what have been the levels and sources of steel imports for the past eight months; and what percentage of the British market these represent.

United Kingdom imports of steel industry products

thousand tonnes

From

January-August 1982

January-June 1982

As percentage of United Kingdom consumption

EC1,8151,44621·8
of which:
Belgium-Luxembourg2361882·8
France2642073·1
Germany Federal Republic6725368·1
Italy2121622·4
Netherlands3322694·1
Other Western Europe4593745·6
of which:
Spain120991·5
Sweden1321071·6
Eastern Europe1591271·9
Africa71510·8
America1301141·7
Asia64400·6
Oceania320·0
Total2,7022,15332·5

Sources: Iron and Steel Statistics Bureau, Department of Industry.

Notes:

(1) Consumption figures, which are compiled on a quarterly basis, are available only for the first half of 1982. The import figures have also been given for this period.

(2) Consumption is defined as producers' deliveries less exports plus imports less stock change.

(3) The import figures given include material for conversion. Figures excluding material for conversion, which is the usual basis for assessing market share, are not available by country. In the first half of 1982, United Kingdom total imports excluding material for conversion accounted for 26·4 per cent. of United Kingdom consumption.

(4) Country information is given where imports exceeded 100,000 tonnes in the period January-August 1982.

Small Businesses

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what progress has been made in providing incentives to encourage small businesses to set up and expand; and if he will make a statement.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply which I gave on 25 October to my hon. Friend the Member for Reading, North (Mr. Durant).—[Vol. 29, c. 725–26.] Many of the measures referred to in that answer provide incentives to encourage small businesses to set up and expand. I am sending my hon. Friend the full list and copies are also available in the Library. I am constantly looking at ways to help further.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will list in the Official Report all the measures currently in force to assist small businesses; and what each one is budgeted to cost in the current financial year.

The Government have introduced nearly 100 measures in order to assist and improve the climate for small businesses. The list of measures runs to nine pages of foolscap and I have therefore made copies of the list available in the Library. Copies can also be obtained from my Department's Small Firms Service and I have forwarded a copy to my hon. Friend.It would not be possible to cost every measure. Some of them assist large as well as small firms; others are unquantifiable or depend heavily on the degree of take-up.

Loan Guarantee Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what are the terms of reference for the accountancy firm commisioned to study the loan guarantee scheme; when he expects to receive its report; and whether he intends to publish it or to place a copy in the Library.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave on Thursday 28 October to the hon. Member for Heywood and Royton (Mr. Barnett).

British Leyland (Corporate Plan)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will make his approval of British Leyland's corporate plan conditional upon the ending of the buying and retail selling of imported components and tools by the company; and if he will make a statement.

Boiler Conversion Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether he will now extend the scope of the boiler conversion scheme so that retail traders may apply for grant aid to convert boilers from oil to coal burning.

Retail traders who fall within division 6 of the Standard Industrial Classification—Revised 1980—are already elegible to apply for grant assistance under the coal firing scheme.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether loans from the European Coal and Steel Community to encourage switching to coal firing are now available under the exchange risk guarantee scheme.

Yes. The Government have reached an agreement with the European Coal and Steel Community and Finance For Industry that will enable companies to apply for ECSC loans under the exchange risk guarantee scheme. All projects that are eligible for grant assistance under the coal firing scheme will in principle also be eligible for an ECSC loan. All applications for loans under the exchange risk guarantee scheme should be made to the Department of Industry.

Telephone Charges

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what were the standing charges per year for telephone services to domestic properties five years ago; and what they are today.

The annual rentals for a residential telephone line—exclusive of VAT—five years ago and currently are as follows:

Exclusive serviceShared service
££
November 197733·0029·00
November 198254·0050·00
The November 1977 prices were set in May 1975 and the November 1982 prices will remain unchanged until at least April 1983.

European Regional Fund (Halifax)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry why Halifax has been excluded from the list of areas to receive financial help from the non-quota section of the European regional development fund.

It is not clear why the Commission should have omitted Halifax from these proposals. The Government will naturally press for its inclusion when the proposed regulation comes before the Council.

Steel Industry

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what information he has as to the offering by European Economic Community steel producers of discounts on their published price lists; and if he will make a statement.

There are widespread allegations that steel producers throughout the Community are offering discounts on published price lists, in breach of the ECSC price rules. Such practices may lead to fines being imposed by the Commission. While my Department is ready to pursue such issues with the Commission, it has received very little hard evidence to substantiate the allegations. The Government are determined that steps should be taken to ensure that the rules are obeyed scrupulously by producers in all member States, and my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State intends getting the informal meeting of Industry Ministers on 18 November seriously to address the issue of more effective policing of the rules.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if the British Steel Corporation requires his permission or the permission of the European Economic Community Commission before making discounts or offering reductions on its published price lists; and if he will make a statement.

Prior permission to make discounts is not required from either the Commission or my right hon. Friend, but any such discounts should be in accordance with the price rules laid down in the ECSC treaty and consequential Commission decisions. These require steel producers to publish price lists and to adhere to those list prices except when aligning down on to the price charged by a competitor, or in certain other specific circumstances where the Commission has been notified in advance. Failure to observe these rules may result in fines being imposed by the Commission.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what have been the main reasons for a higher share of the United Kingdom steel market being taken up by the other European Economic Community suppliers in the context of the Community regime of harmonised price lists.

There is no Community regime of harmonised price lists, but there are attempts to harmonise Community price levels based on voluntary agreements between producers. The share of the United Kingdom steel market taken by other Community producers is, of course, largely determined by the commercial decisions of the steel consumers; price will be an important factor in those decisions. In so far as producers in other member States are charging prices lower than those of United Kingdom producers, while respecting the ECSC price rules on transparency, this is ultimately a matter for the companies concerned.

British Shipbuilders

asked the Secretary of State for Industry in which activities other than shipbuilding, ship repairing and marine engineering British Shipbuilders is employed.

British Shipbuilders' main subsidiaries are also engaged in offshore work, slow and medium speed diesel engine manufacture, manufacture of weaponry and various general engineering products not for marine use, and the provision of training services. The range of the subsidiaries' products and services is set out in British Shipbuilders' report and accounts. Small subsidiaries of the main companies are involved in a range of miscellaneous activities.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many people are at present employed in shipbuilding in the United Kingdom and, so far as the information is available to him, in each of the other principal shipbuilding countries; and whether he will provide figures showing the change in the number so employed over as long a period as is praticable.

Such international information as is readily available relates to employment on building new merchant ships and is as follows:

Number directly employed on building new merchant ships
'000, end period
1978197919801981
West Germany53·151·550·551·8
France25·624·023·623·9
Italy16·315·214·513·8
Netherlands39·335·834·435·1
Spain22·520·620·022·3
Finland15·517·017·517·7
Norway16·313·013·012·9
19781979'000, 1980end period 1981
Sweden14·812·911·710·4
Japan137·0120·0113·0114·0
United Kingdom40·734·025·325·3

Source: OECD

Note: Although conceptually these figures relate to employees directly employed on new merchant shipbuildng work, their basis may differ from country to country.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what has been the amount of Government finance granted to British Shipbuilders in each year since its formation, expressed in terms of the average per employee at the end of each year.

The following table gives details of support for BS through the national loans fund, public dividend capital, subsidies under the Industry Act 1972 and payments made under the shipbuilding redundancy payments scheme, together with numbers employed and the average support per BS employee.

£ million
1977–781978–791979–801980–811981–82
NLF and PDC
55*181*†110107
Subsidies under sections 7 and 8 of the Industry Act 1972
27·410·631·239·945·9
Construction grants under section 11 of the 1972 Act
0·30·30·10·10·3
Shipbuilding redundancy payments
4·715·520·114·4
27·770·6227·8170·1167·6
British Shipbuilders Employment ('000s)
8682·5736866
Average finance per employee (£)
3228563,1212,5012,539

* National loans fund advanced on an interim basis.

† Net. All outstanding NLF loans were repaid in full with interest on 21 December 1979 and were replaced by PDC.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many people are at present employed by British Shipbuilders; and how many were employed at its formation.

I understand from British Shipbuilders that it employed 64,611 staff this October compared to 87,470 staff at vesting day in July 1977.

Public Expenditure

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will list, on an annual basis, all cuts in public expenditure in excess of £5 million which he has made since May 1979 at both current and 1982 prices, indicating in each case the size of the cut as a percentage of the departmental budget for that year.

I have been asked to reply.I refer the hon. Member to the relevant public expenditure White Papers (Cmnd. 7746, 7841, 8175 and 8494) and to the autumn statement laid before the House on 8 November last. I regret that a comprehensive analysis in the form requested could be provided only with a disproportionate expenditure of time and effort.

Defence

Tactical Loaders

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what steps are being taken to acquire new British designed and manufactured tactical loaders for the Royal Air Force to replace the existing outworn Condecs.

Options for refurbishing or replacing the Consolidated Diesel Electric Company loaders in Royal Air Force service are currently being studied. Decisions are not expected to be taken for some months.

Falklands Campaign

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether any of his Department's employees with experience in the maintenance of the Polaris nuclear missiles were included in the personnel of the ship "Fort Austin" when part of the Falklands fleet; and if he will make a statement.

Falkland Islands

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he intends to allow some married Service men and their families to reside on the Falkland Islands for 18-month tours of duty.

We would not object in principle to a small number of staff who will remain on the islands for longer periods being voluntarily accompanied by their families, but this cannot be considered until adequate provision has been made for housing and other services.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the cost of chartering the "Safe Domina", a floating hotel to be moored off Port Stanley; and how many troops will be housed on her.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what instructions the military police have for dealing with the local Falkland Islanders; and if he will outline their statutory powers when dealing with civilians and the circumstances in which they may use these powers.

Twenty Service policemen, who are currently stationed in the Falklands have been sworn in as temporary special constables in accordance with Ordnance 51 (Police and Prisons) of the Laws of the Falkland Islands. They therefore enjoy the full statutory powers of the local police to deal with Falkland Islands civilians as well as Service men.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will outline his policy in relation to the sale to Third world and other countries of arms captured from Argentina in the Falklands.

The needs of our forces and the Falkland Islanders have priority over other options for the disposal of such equipment. The appropriateness of any defence sales will be judged on a case by case basis and would be subject to the normal rules governing the sale of defence equipment overseas.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what has been the cost of sending the "Coastel" to the Falklands.

The cost of transporting the "Coastel" to the Falklands will be about £0·7 million.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many Christmas trees are to be flown out to the Forces in the Falklands; and at what cost.

None. Air freighting Christmas trees to the Falklands is, in all the circumstances, not a reasonable use of our hard-pressed resources. However, a large number of artificial Christmas trees and other decorations have been shipped out there by the NAAFI.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the cost of the portakabin settlements in the Falkland Islands.

To date £7·7 million has been spent on the hutted camps being constructed or planned to be erected in the Falkland Islands which include the Portacabins and other makes of hut.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what plans he has to send Women's Royal Army Corps units to the Falklands Islands.

The Army Department is currently assessing which jobs within the garrison establishment may be suitable for individual members of the Women's Royal Army Corps.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he expects that all mines in the Falkland Islands will be removed; and what will be the time scale of this operation.

I have nothing to add to the reply I gave the hon. Member on 18 October.—[Vol. 29, c. 49–50.]

Exocet

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what investigation he has made into the supply of the British-made miniaturised printed circuits to Aerospatial Dassault, manufacturers of Exocet, after 3 April.

None. I refer the hon. Gentleman to the answers given to the hon. Member for Warrington (Mr. Hoyle).—[Vol. 29, c. 429; Vol. 31, c. 85.]

Divers (Training)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what crash course training is being given at Hull and elsewhere to Royal Navy divers in the techniques of cutting through metal at great speed at depths of 500 feet.

An acquaint course in deep underwater cutting and familiarisation with specialist underwater salvage tools was given in August 1982 in Hull to a limited number of naval personnel.

South Atlantic (Civilian Vessels)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many requisitioned civilian vessels have been damaged in the South Atlantic since the cessation of hostilities; from what cause; and at what cost.

The tug "Irishman" suffered damage on 16 September. The cause of the damage has not been finally established. She is now back in the United Kingdom, but the extent of the necessary repairs, and so their cost, have yet to be identified. Another tug, "Yorkshireman", was involved in a minor collision with another vessel on 21 August. She has now been repaired but we have not yet received a statement of the costs. A number of lesser incidents have also been reported. Further details could not be provided except at disproportionate expense.

Underwater Recovery Vessels

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the work of the two oil field underwater recovery vessels, the "Stena Seaspread", chartered from Aberdeen on 13 April and "Stena Inspector" chartered from Charleston, United States of America, on 26 May.

I have nothing to add to the answer I gave the hon. Member on 20 October.—[Vol. 29, c. 168.]

Hms "Sheffield"

asked the Secretary of State for Defence why representatives of the media were informed by officials of his Department that HMS "Sheffield" had been scuttled, in view of the statement issued by his Department the following day to the effect that the vessel sank under tow in severe weather; whether disciplinary action was taken against those responsible; and what was the character of any such action.

As I told the House in answer to questions from the hon. Members for Keighley (Mr. Cryer) and Salford, East (Mr. Allaun) on 20 and 23 July respectively, HMS "Sheffield" sank under tow in heavy weather. I know of no statement by my Department to the contrary.—[Vol. 28, c. 122 and 340.]

Hms "Coventry"

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether the "Stena Seaspread" in her role as a diving support vessel has been used in work on or around the wreck of HMS "Coventry".

asked the Secretary of State for Defence in what position HMS "Coventry" sank.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence in what depth of water the wreck of HMS "Coventry" lies.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what exploratory work has been carried out in connection with the wreck of HMS "Coventry".

Work is in hand to recover classified equipment and documents from the wreck of HMS "Coventry". Naval divers carrying out this work exercise the greatest possible care so as to minimise disturbance to the wreck, which is a war grave.

Energy

Petrol And Diesel Prices

4.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will introduce legislation to institute a system of standardisation of petrol and diesel prices throughout the United Kingdom.

Coal

21.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy when next he will meet the chairman of the National Coal Board to discuss the levels of future production.

25.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy when next he plans to meet the chairman of the National Coal Board to discuss the Plan for Coal.

29.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy when next he plans to meet the chairman of the National Coal Board.

I meet the chairman of the National Coal Board frequently to discuss all aspects of the board's activities.

28.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will take further steps to encourage the use of coal in industry.

The Government's coal firing scheme continues to provide a strong incentive to industry to make the switch to coal firing. In addition, the Government are funding a scheme to provide exchange risk cover on loans from the European Coal and Steel Community towards coal conversion projects.

Alternative Energy Sources

22.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will list his priorities for development of alternative energy sources.

My Department's research and development programme on new and renewable forms of energy is being concentrated on those technologies with the most promise for the United Kingdom, such as wind and geothermal energy.

Coal Liquefaction

23.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what has been the total level of Government financial support into research, development and other aspects of coal liquefaction.

I would refer the hon. Member to the statement I made during the Adjournment debate on 3 November, reported, in c. 106 of Hansard, that Government financial support to date for R & D and other aspects of coal liquefaction amounts to some £860,000.

Heat And Power Systems

24.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will encourage the retention of older power stations which could be used for combined heat and power systems.

Our recent feasibility study of combined heat and power schemes was carried out with the co-operation of the electricity supply industry, and included assessing selected power station sites. The CEGB has retained sites specifically because of the study.

Energy Consumption

26.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what was the total United Kingdom energy consumption in the third quarter of 1982 as compared with the same period of 1981; and which, if any, primary energy types showed an increased supply of production level.

Provisional figures, published by my Department on 3 November, show that energy consumption in the third quarter of 1982 was 0·1 per cent. higher than in the same period in 1981. Increased levels of production were recorded, in the third quarter, for petroleum, natural gas and primary electricity.

Electricity Supply

27.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will meet the chairman of the Electricity Council to discuss the proposed new electricity supply legislation.

Opencast Coal

30.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what is the level of opencast coal production for the latest available period.

NCB opencast coal production, including coal from licensed opencast sites delivered to the NCB for sale, was 14·3 million tonnes in 1981–82 and 7·7 million tonnes in the first six months of 1982–83.

Pressurised Water Reactor, Sizewell

31.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will reconsider his decision not to allow public funds to be used to assist objectors at the Sizewell inquiry to establish their case.

Britoil

32.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what restrictions the Government intend to introduce on the right to buy shares in Britoil.

Pit Closures

33.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy to what extent his approval is required for National Coal Board pit closures.

The National Coal Board does not require the consent of the Secretary of State for pit closures.

34.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy how many National Coal Board pits have been closed since February 1981.

I am informed by the NCB that there were 213 pits in production in February 1981, compared with 194 today. Since February 1981, 15 pits have closed. In the same period two mergers have reduced four pits to two; and two pits are at present on an unproducing development only basis.

Vale Of Belvoir

35.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what are his latest plans concerning the development of the Vale of Belvoir coalfields in Leicestershire.

In July the National Coal Board submitted a new planning application to Melton borough council for determination by Leicestershire county council, for a mine at Asfordby. I understand that my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment has directed Leicestershire county council not to grant planning permission without special authorisation, simply in order that he should have time to consider whether or not the application should be called in.

Standing Charges

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what were the standing charges per year on gas and electricity in domestic properties five years ago: and what they are today.

In November 1977 the average quarterly standing charge on normal domestic tariffs for quarterly-billed electricity consumers in England and Wales was £2·69, (£10·76 per annum). The present comparable figure is £6·82 (£27·28 per annum).Comparison of the gas figures between the earlier and later years is significantly affected by the existence between April 1977 and April 1981 of a three-part tariff for domestic credit consumers under which the first 52 therms consumed in any quarter were charged at a higher rate than subsequent therms. In order to produce comparable figures the amount of the standing charge element has been adjusted to take account of this effect in the November 1977 figure shown as follows using the same basis as the 1979 Price Commission report.

Gas—General Zone Comsumers; Domestic Credit Tariff Standing Charge Element
QuarterlyPer annum
££
November 19775·9023·60
November 19829·9039·60

Public Expenditure

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will list, on an annual basis, all cuts in public expenditure in excess of £5 million which he has made since May 1979 at both current and 1982 prices, indicating in each case the size of the cut as a percentage of the departmental budget for that year.

I have been asked to reply.I refer the hon. Member to the relevant Public Expenditure White Papers (Cmnd. 7746, 7841, 8175 and 8494) and to the Autumn Statement laid before the House on 8 November last. I regret that a comprehensive analysis in the form requested could be provided only with a disproportionate expenditure of time and effort.

Scotland

A7 (Temporary Traffic Lights)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list in the Official Report the number and location of temporary traffic lights installed on the A7 trunk road between Edinburgh and Galashiels, together with a statement of their purpose and expected duration of their placing.

On 11 November 1982 there were three sets of temporary traffic lights in operation on the A7 trunk road between Edinburgh and Galashiels as follows:

Location, Purpose and Duration

1. Eskbank Toll
Public utility works; duration not known.
2. North Middleton Bridge
To restrict traffic to one side of the carriageway on this weak bridge. The bridge is to be propped but the traffic restriction will have to remain in force until a new bridge is opened in 2–3 years time.
3. 0.6 km south of North Middleton Bridge
To protect traffic and the carriageway on a section of the road which is cracking and slipping. The extent of the remedial works required is being investigated. If no major works are required the temporary traffic lights could be removed by next summer.

Local Authorities (Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will take steps to assist local authorities with additional current expenditure incurred as a result of any increased capital expenditure.

I am satisfied as to the adequacy of the Government's plans for local authority current expenditure and of my proposals for rate support grant. Loan charges resulting from capital expenditure are taken into account in the calculation of total grant.

Rates (Reform)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will introduce proposals to reform the rating system.

I shall announce the Government's conclusions as soon as possible after the current review is completed.

Electricity Tariffs

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what arrangements he makes to monitor electricity tariffs for industrial users.

The fixing of tariffs is a matter for the Scottish electricity boards' commerical judgment but we are aware of the general level of prices to be charged each year to all categories of consumers.The hon. Member will be aware that the Scottish electricity boards, like those in England and Wales, have this year introduced special terms (contracted load terms) for industrial users with heavy electrical loads. It is for the management of individual industries to examine, in conjunction with the electricity boards, how they can best qualify for these discounts.

Council House Sales

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many houses have been sold under the Tenant's Rights (Scotland) Act by Cumbernauld and Kilsyth district council, Bearsden and Milngavie district council and Strathkelvin district council.

I refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave on 25 October to my hon. Friend the Member for Edinburgh, West (Lord James Douglas-Hamilton). [Vol. 29, c. 274–5.]

Divorce Statistics

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many divorces there have been in Scotland in each of the last 10 years.

Kilmarnock sheriff courtKilmarnock and Loudoun district council
Year endingNumber of applications consideredNumber of applications grantedNumber of applications consideredNumber of applications granted
31 March 19802,1851,857256238
31 March 19812,1941,943219190
31 March 19822,4632,199326293

Local Authority Rents

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he intends to give details of the level of council, new town and Scottish Special Housing Association house rents in 1983; and what amount of increase he anticipates.

Decisions on this matter remain to be taken. The hon. Member will in any event bear in mind the distinction between the need for my approval in respect of proposals by new towns and the SSHA and the freedom of local authorities, subject to their judgment of all relevant financial matters, to fix their own rent levels. As far as local authorities are concerned, I expect to carry out shortly the statutory consultations with the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities about housing support grant.

Health Education (Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in the Official Report details of the total expended by his Department on health education in each year since 1974; and if he will specify what proportion of this expenditure was on information and advertising to counter alcohol abuse.

Responsibility for promoting health education at national level in accordance with Government policy lies with the Scottish health education group. Expenditure figures are as follows:

The latest available information is as follows:

YearNumbers
1972*5,501
1973*7,104
1974*7,173
1975*8,298
1976*8,662
1977*8,812
1978*8,448
1979*8,829
1980†10,530
1981†9,895

* Source: Civil Judicial Statistics, Scotland.

Source: Registrar General—Annual Report.

Legal Aid (Kilmarnock)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many applicants there were for criminal legal aid in Kilmarnock for 1980, 1981 and 1982; and how many of these were successful.

The information requested is as follows:

Financial YearTotal ExpenditureExpenditure on publicityProportion of publicity expenditure allocated to alcohol programmes
££Per cent.
1974–75115,00097,00036
1975–76428,000375,00019
1976–77716,000650,00015
1977–78780,000692,0009
1978–791,067,000962,00014
1979–801,250,0001,123,0008
1980–811,540,0001,337,00012
1981–821,889,0001,639,0007

Teachers' Qualifications

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) if he will replace the present primary diploma courses in Scottish colleges of education by four-year degree courses;(2) if he will take steps to ensure that teachers trained in Scotland and registered with the General Teaching Council after 31 August 1984 will be qualified for employment as teachers in any part of the United Kingdom.

My right hon. Friend is currently considering these matters and hopes to make an announcement in the near future.

Enterprise Zones

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is able to make an announcement about a further enterprise zone in Scotland, following his invitation to local authorities to present bids.

I intend that the third enterprise zone in Scotland should be designated in Tayside, based on sites at Arbroath and Dundee.

Wales

Dyfed Health Authority

asked the Secretary of State for Wales, following the splitting of the Dyfed health authority into the Pembrokeshire health authority and the East Dyfed health authority, how many fewer staff are now employed at the health authority's administrative headquarters at Starling park, Carmarthen; what savings have been made in the running of the administrative headquarters; and how much has been made available for other sectors such as for patient care in the community.

In October 4·8 fewer, whole-time equivalents. The financial consequences cannot be assessed until the 1982–83 accounts are available.

Hospital Beds (Shortage)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what plans he has for remedying the shortage of hospital beds in Wales for the treatment of cardiac disease.

Following the publication on 27 July 1982 of the Welsh Medical Committee's working party report and the Welsh Office's study report on cardiothoracic services in Wales, I have asked the Department to undertake a detailed appraisal of the cost and benefits of the options for developing these services which the study team identified. Copies of the reports are available in the Library.

Unemployment Statistics

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will publish in the Official Report a table showing for (a) the Caernarvon and Bangor travel-to-work area and (b) the Pwllheli and Porthmadog travel-to-work area (i) the latest percentage unemployment figures for men and women, respectively and (ii) the corresponding figures for May 1979 and October 1974.

The information is as follows.

Unemployment Rates
Travel-to-work area
Caernarvon Bangor Bethesda PenygroesPwllheli Porthmadog
October 1982
Males22·020·4
Females12·313·5
May 1979
Males10·09·6
Females6·85·1
October 1974
Males9·88·2
Females3·13·6

Community Hospital (Dwyfor)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales when it is expected that work will commence on a new community hospital for the Dwyfor area.

The planning and programming of a new community hospital for the Dwyfor area is primarily a matter for the Gwyned health authority. The latest information I have is that the start of work is tentatively envisaged for the 1992–93 financial year.

Bangor General Hospital

asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether the opening date for the new district hospital at Bangor, to be known as Ysbyty Gwynedd, remains Easter 1984.

Yes, although much of the hospital may be in use earlier than that date.

Cattle And Sheep (Shipping)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what progress has been made in relation to the shipping of (a) cattle and (b) sheep through the port of Holyhead.

The Welsh Office wrote to the prospective importers on 28 October 1982 reminding them of the need to provide details of their proposed trade to the intervention board for agricultural produce.

Walk-In Diagnostic Units

asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether he will set up two or three "walk-in" diagnostic units in Wales.

No. General diagnostic consultations are readily available at local family doctors' surgeries. If they consider it appropriate doctors may refer patients to the hospital service for special diagnostic investigation.

Gwynedd Area Health Authority (Membership)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales in what newspapers he advertised to seek the names of suitable persons interested in being appointed as members of the Gwynedd area health authority prior to his latest appointments to that authority.

Advertisements were placed in the following newspapers:

  • Daily Post
  • Evening Leader
  • South Wales Argus
  • South Wales Echo
  • South Wales Evening Post
  • Western Mail
  • Y Cymro

Co-Responsibility Levy

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what are the latest representations he has received from the Farmers Union of Wales and from the National Farmers Union in Wales concerning the co-responsibility levy; and if he will make a statement on the Government's present attitude towards this levy.

Both unions share the Government's view that the levy should be abolished.

European Community (Grants And Repayments)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will publish in the Official Report, a table showing for each of the past five years the total receipts by way of grants and other payments which have come to Wales from the European Economic Community budget.

Identifiable grants and loans from the European Community
(Commitments up to November 1982)
£ million*
Source19781979198019811982Total
European regional development fund—Quota (grants)17·121·732·524·829·2125·3
European regional development fund—Non-Quota (grants)†10·510·5
European social fund (grants)‡4·66·89·91·82·625·7
European Investment Bank (loans)34·1197·613·60·613·1259·0
European Coal and Steel Community (loans)99·121·629·560·412·5223·1
European Coal and Steel Community (grants)║3·51·57·817·411·441·6
FEOGA¶6·94·118·230·524·183·8
165·3253·3111·5135·5103·4769·0
In addition expenditure programmes in Wales have been granted supplementary measures support of £220 million under the Community Budget agreement of 30 May 1980. Of this some £117·7 million was allocated from the 1980 Budget most of which was received in 1981 and £102 million from the 1981 Budget paid in 1982.

Footnotes to table

* All figures have been independently rounded.

† Represents the total allocation to Wales under the ERDF non-quota regulation in respect of the 1982 to 1985 Programme period.

‡ This is a minimum figure. Most allocations from the European Social Fund are in respect of schemes operating nationally, or in a number of parts of the United Kingdom, which cannot be disaggregated at the Wales level.

║ Identifiable commitments are in respect of the steel industry only.

¶ FEOGA figures are based on identifiable receipts not commitments.

Steel Industry

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many jobs have so far been lost in South Wales as a result of the steel slimline programme; and how many new jobs have so far been financed as a direct result of the Government's financial measures for the steel areas, and in Port Talbot and Newport, respectively.

Under the slimline programme (January 1980 to November 1980) 10,400 jobs were lost in industrial South Wales and further reductions since then have resulted in an additional 6,300 jobs being lost at BSC plants. In the areas concerned about 14,000 jobs were expected to be provided as a result of financial assistance accepted or Government factories allocated in the period 1 April 1980 to 30 September 1982. Of this total, about 1,800 and 4,200 jobs respectively were expected to be provided in the Port Talbot and Newport travel-to-work areas.

A44 (Improvement)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will improve the A44 trunk road between Brynrheidol and Tyllwyd Farm, Capel Bangor in Ceredigion during the next 12 months; and if he will make a statement.

A possible improvement scheme between Forge Cottage and Tyllwyd Farm is under consideratin, but I cannot say when the scheme might be implemented.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales when the present road widening scheme on the A44 trunk road at Goginan village in Ceredigion will be completed; and if he will make a statement.

Grants and loans together with supplementary measures provided under the Community Budget agreement of 30 May 1980 total, over the period, some £989 million. Details are as follows:

The structural works should be largely completed by the end of this year, but final surfacing works will have to await the better weather of early spring.

Rubens Cartoons

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what inquiries were made by the Welsh Office into the historical background of the Rubens cartoons purchased by the National Museum of Wales, before it approved arrangements for the mortgage of the purchase grant over a period of three years.

None. It is the responsibility of the museum authorities to satisfy themselves as to the authenticity and provenance of their purchases. They did so when the cartoons were purchased.

Local Authorities (Purchasing Policy)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether he will relax the obligation of local authorities to buy goods from the lowest tenderers so that they can give wider consideration to the possibility of buying articles made in Wales.

Although local authorities are expected to invite tenders for supply contracts, there is no requirement on them invariably to accept the lowest tender; but they have a responsibility to their ratepayers to obtain best value for money. Welsh firms should be able to tender competitively for contracts in Wales.

School Meals

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what proportion of total pupils at the bilingual secondary schools in Wales had free school meals in each year since 1974.

The information, which is readily available on the subject, refers to the last six academic years and is given in the following table:

Percentage of pupils in bilingual secondary schools in Wales who received free school meals*
Per cent.
1976–775
1977–786
1978–798
1979–807
1980–814
1981–826

* At September each academic year.

Revenue expenditure on youth service provision per head of population aged 0 to 15 years

£ outturn prices

1974–75

1975–76

1976–77

1977–78

1978–79

1979–80

1980–81

1981–82

Clwyd3·74·44·85·15·36·27·79·1
Dyfed4·95·54·23·81·92·11·61·7
Gwent3·75·04·03·93·84·55·88·1
Gwynedd3·54·43·84·36·07·68·48·6
Mid Glamorgan3·65·96·08·67·88·89·48·7
Powys5·57·38·68·811·714·116·516·9
South Glamorgan3·15·35·26·27·68·410·511·2
West Glamorgan4·45·85·24·95·35·65·76·5

Revenue expenditure on youth service provision per head of population aged 11 to 18 years

£ outturn prices

1974–75

1975–76

1976–77

1977–78

1978–79

1979–80

1980–81

1981–82

Clwyd7·99·19·49·99·811·213·815·8
Dyfed9·710·68·06·93·43·82·82·9
Gwent7·79·97·77·26·88·010·013·8
Gwynedd7·28·87·68·411·214·215·114·8
Mid Glamorgan7·712·212·216·814·916·517·415·7
Powys10·813·715·916·020·824·528·529·6
South Glamorgan6·210·09·611·213·314·117·218·7
West Glamorgan8·811·49·99·19·59·910·011·3

Revenue expenditure on youth service provision

£ thousands outturn prices

1974–75

1975–76

1976–77

1977–78

1978–79

1979–80

1980–81

1981–82

Clwyd349416443472476552682811
Dyfed361398306267132147109117
Gwent427565449422400466576810
Gwynedd186231203225305387418436
Mid Glamorgan4978148241,1571,0311,1481,2041,095
Powys129169200205268319370408
South Glamorgan306503491577691758927956
West Glamorgan388511450419443463466516

Revenue expenditure on youth service provision as a percentage of net revenue expenditure on total education provision

1974–75

1975–76

1976–77

1977–78

1978–79

1979–80

1980–81

1981–82

Clwyd1·01·00·90·90·80·80·80·9
Dyfed1·31·10·80·60·20·30·20·2
Gwent1·11·10·80·70·50·60·60·8
Gwynedd1·01·00·80·80·81·00·90·9
Mid Glamorgan1·01·31·21·51·11·11·00·9
Powys1·31·31·31·21·31·51·41·4
South Glamorgan0·91·11·01·11·11·21·21·1
West Glamorgan1·21·20·90·80·70·70·60·6

Youth Service

asked the Secretary of State for Wales (1) what was the total local education authority expenditure for each local education authority in Wales on youth service provision in each year since 1974; and what proportion of each individual local education authority's total expenditure this represented in each case;(2) what was the expenditure per head of population for each Welsh local education authority on youth service provision in each year since 1974;(3) what was the expenditure per head of population aged 0 to 15 years and aged 11 to 18 years for each Welsh local education authority on youth service provision in each year since 1974;(4) what was the expenditure per head of population on the youth service in Wales in each year since 1974.

Per capita revenue expenditure on youth service provision

£ outturn prices

1974–75

1975–76

1976–77

1977–78

1978–79

1979–80

1980–81

1981–82

Clwyd0·91·11·21·21·21·41·82·1
Dyfed1·11·20·90·80·40·50·30·3
Gwent1·01·31·01·00·91·11·31·8
Gwynedd0·81·00·91·01·31·71·81·9
Mid Glamorgan0·91·51·52·11·92·12·22·0
Powys1·31·61·91·92·53·03·43·7
South Glamorgan0·81·31·31·51·81·92·42·4
West Glamorgan1·01·41·21·11·21·31·31·4
WALES1·01·31·21·31·41·51·71·8

Local Authorities (Staff)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales (1) how many (a) full-time youth officers, (b) full-time youth workers and (c) part-time youth workers were employed by each Welsh local education authority in each year since 1974;(2) what was the number of local authority

(a) full-time officers, (b) part-time workers and (c) full-time workers to

Youth Service Staffing, 1980/81

Full-time Youth Officers

Full-time Youth Workers

Part-time Youth Workers

Number

Number per 10,000 population

Number

Number per 10,000 population

Approximate total hours worked (thousands)

Clwyd40·1

*8

0·233
Dyfed40·1250·88
Gwent50·1471·139
Gwynedd50·2†50·224
Mid Glamorgan60·1340·681
Powys20·270·620
South Glamorgan1‡240·663
West Glamorgan30·1150·434
WALES300·11650·6302

* Includes 2 workers funded by Manpower Services Commission.

† Includes 2 workers funded by urban aid programme.

‡ Includes 1 worker funded by urban aid programme.

All staff at officer level and almost all of the full-time youth workers are qualified professionals. Information is not available centrally as to the proportion of part-time youth workers who hold a professional qualification.

Bilingual Schools

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what information is currently available as to the social class composition of pupils attending bilingual secondary schools in Wales.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales (1) what proportion of (a) all pupils, (b) boys and (c) girls leaving the specially designated bilingual schools in Wales proceeded to some form of (i) further education and (ii) higher education in each year since 1974.(2) what proportion of

(a) all pupils, (b) boys and (c) girls left the designated bilingual schools in Wales with (i) five or more O-levels, (ii) two or more A-levels and (iii) no qualifications in each year since 1974.

Information on the numbers of school leavers in Wales, their examination achievements and their destinations on leaving school is collected by

each 10,000 head of total population for (i) Wales and (ii) each individual local education authority in Wales for each year since 1974;

(3) what was proportion of full or part-time youth service staff with a professional qualification in youth work, social work or related fields for (a) Wales and (b) each Welsh local education authority in each year since 1974.

The available information refers to 1980–81 only and is as follows:way of an annual sample survey involving approximately 10 per cent. of all leavers. Such a sample is too small to provide reliable estimates for designated bilingual schools as a separate category.

Enterprise Zones

asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether he is now in a position to make a statement about further enterprise zones in Wales.

Following consideration of proposals from a number of local authorities in Wales, I have decided that the location of a further enterprise zone in Wales should be Flint. I shall be discussing with the Delyn borough council the exact boundaries of a zone, planning proposals and administrative arrangements.I am also examining the possibility of one further enterprise zone development elsewhere in Wales, and I shall be having early consultations with the local authorities about this.

Housing

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he is now able to indicate the provision he proposes to allocate to Welsh housing in the next financial year.

I am still consulting local authorities about the level of rent and management expenditure increases to be assumed for subsidy purposes. I will announce my decisions when I have considered their views.

Health Education (Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will publish in the Official Report details of the total expended by his Department on health education in each year since 1974; and if he will specify what proportion of this expenditure was on information and advertising to counter alcohol abuse.

I have been asked to reply.The Health Education Council undertakes national health education programmes on behalf of the Government in England, Wales and Northern Ireland. The council's expenditure since 1974, including the amounts spent on measures aimed at countering alcohol abuse, are published in the council's annual reports, which are available in the Library. Information about expenditure on health education by local health services and education authorities is not available centrally.

Northern Ireland

Harland And Wolff

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many people are employed at Harland and Wolff's shipyard; how that number has fallen over the last 10 years; how much Government finance has been provided to the firm in each of the last 10 years, and how much in total since May 1979, expressing the figures in historic and current terms.

At 31 October 1982 Harland and Wolff Limited employed 6,220 compared with 9,438 at 31 October 1972.The following table gives details of financial assistance from all Government sources provided to the company in each of the last ten years, expressed in both historic and 1981–82 values, and inclusive of payments made under the shipbuilding redundancy payments scheme:

Year to 31 MarchHistoric Cost1981–82 Cost
£ million£ million
19734·315·1
197411·236·7
19758·222·4
197635·477·2
197721·942·2
19783·35·6
197916·024·5
198027·335·7
198148·954·2
198252·752·7
1 April-12 November 198240·137·3
Since May 1979 a total of £164·2 million at historic values (£173·6 million at 1981–82 values) has been provided to the company.

Health Education (Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will publish in the Official Report details of the total expended by his Department on health education in each year since 1974; and if he will specify what proportion of this expenditure was on information and advertising to counter alcohol abuse.

I have been asked to reply.The Health Education Council undertakes national health education programmes on behalf of the Government in England, Wales and Northern Ireland. The council's expenditure since 1974, including the amounts spent on measures aimed at countering alcohol abuse, are published in the council's annual reports, which are available in the Library. Information about expenditure on health education by local health services and education authorities is not available centrally.

Social Services

Retirement Pension

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the percentage increase in the retirement pension between April 1979 and November 1982.

Pensioners (Earnings Rule)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what expenses are allowed when computing pensioners' income tax for the purpose of applying the earnings rule; what limits are imposed on the amount of such expenses; and when these limits were last updated.

The earnings rule for retirement pension is applied to gross earnings, subject only to allowances for certain expenses which are reasonably incurred by the pensioner in respect of (a) any work expenses such as trade union subscriptions, fares, overalls, or tools, (b) the cost of the care of a member of the pensioners' household while the pensioner is at work; and (c) the cost up to 15 pence, of each meal taken during working hours for which no meal voucher has been provided. There are no absolute limits on items in (a) and (b) save that the cost must be reasonable. The limit of 15 pence (c) has not been changed since it was introduced in 1967. The limit follows a similar provision in the rules for the deduction of expenses for computing income tax.

Long-Term Unemployed

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will bring up to date the information in his answers of 24 February, Official Report, c. 414, and 17 March, Official Report, c. 129, concerning a bonus for the long-term unemployed.

The cost of paying unemployed people a bonus of four weeks' benefit for each complete year of unemployment would be as follows:

Number of persons (July 1982)Cost (£ million)
Unemployed for one complete year650,64095
Unemployed for two complete years207,53061
Unemployed for three complete years164,72072
1,022,890228
The rate of bonus assumed for this reply is £36·63 per week.

National Insurance Contributions

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will bring up to date the information given in his written reply dated 2 December 1981, Official Report, c. 155, concerning employees' contributions at various earnings levels for males and females; and if he will include the corresponding employers' contributions.

The information requested is as follows:

Contracted-out contributions standard rate
EarningsEmployeeEmployer*Total
£(per cent.)£(per cent.)£(per cent.)
Lower earnings limit 1983–84 £32·502·92(9·0)3·88(11·95)6·80(20·95)
Average weekly earnings (provisional) for August 1982
(a) Female manufacturing £91·606·97(7·61)8·52(9·30)15·49(16·91)
(b) Female non-manufacturing £103·907·81(7·52)9·48(9·12)17·29(16·64)
(c) Male manufacturing £152·8011·16(7·30)13·32(8·72)24·48(16·02)
(d) Male non-manufacturing £154·9011·30(7·30)13·49(8·71)24·79(16·01)
Upper earnings limit 1983–84 £23516·79(7·14)19·78(8·42)36·57(15·56)

* Includes NI surcharge of 1½ per cent.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will bring up to date the information given in his written reply dated 10 December, Official Report, c. 464, concerning contributions by female workers; and if he will include figures for non-manufacturing industries.

1,243,600 females were employed full time in Great Britain in June 1982 in manufacturing industries, 3,804,400 in non-manufacturing industries. In 1979–80, the latest year for which final figures are available, 3,417,248 married women and widows paid reduced-rate contributions, but these numbers are not broken down by occupation. Provisional figures for 1980–81 are expected to be available in a few weeks' time.

Hypothermia

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will institute a co-ordinated effort this winter, among doctors and the community health service in general, to counter more effectively the problem for old people of insufficient warmth and hypothermia.

The Health Education Council has launched a "winter warmth campaign" which will be promoted by health education officers in the health authorities through social services departments, voluntary organisations and community groups, and supported by publicity material and advertising on local radio stations.

Contracted-out contributions standard rate
EarningsEmployeeEmployer*
££
Lower earnings limit 1982–83 £29·50 a week2·583·60
Average weekly earnings (provisional) for August 1982
(a) Female manufacturing £91·606·468·38
(b) Female non-manufacturing £103·907·239·33
(c) Male manufacturing £152·8010·2913·09
(d) Male non-manufacturing £154·9010·4213·26
Upper earnings limit 1982–83 £220·00 a week14·4918·27

* Includes NI surcharge of 2 per cent.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will bring up to date the information given in his written reply dated 18 January, Official Report, c. 50, on rates of national insurance contribution at average earnings levels for males and females for employers, employees and in total.

The following figures relate to the proposed rates of national insurance contributions from April 1983:

Doctors

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many doctors who have qualified overseas have taken up duties in the United Kingdom in each three-month period over the past two years.

I regret the information is not available in the form requested.

Multiple Sclerosis

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will study the results of experiments into the possible alleviation of multiple sclerosis by the method of using decompression chambers; and if he will make a statement.

The experiments are not funded by the Department or from other Government sources. When the results are published they will be studied.

Employment Statistics

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will publish in the Official Report a table showing the number of nationally insured males and females in manufacturing and non-manufacturing at the latest available date.

The number in employment in Great Britain (excluding members of HM Forces) at June 1982 were as follows:

Manufacturing thousandsNon-manufacturing thousands
Males4,020·77,499·3
Females1,578·56,969·5
In 1979–80, the latest year for which final figures are available, 14,191,550 and 9,421,697 class 1 contribution returns were received for males and females (excluding members of HM Forces) respectively. These figures are not broken down by industry. Provisional figures for 1980–81 are expected to be available in a few weeks' time.

Long-Term Benefits

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many unemployed people over 60 years have gone on to long-term benefit rates.

Source: Quarterly Statistical Enquiry, August 1982.

Poverty Trap

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what progress has been made in eliminating the poverty trap; and if he will make a statement.

The poverty trap is a consequence of the inevitable interaction between means-tested benefits and income relevant to them, tax and national insurance contributions. Estimates vary considerably about its practical effect on families; but the impact of any change in the component elements upon the extent and depth of the trap is carefully considered before decisions are reached.The complete elimination of the poverty trap would require either that means-tested benefits should no longer be available to families and individuals, or else an unacceptably high level of expenditure would have to be incurred to provide benefits which would be universally available regardless of need.

Hunter's Syndrome And Hurler's Disease

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services in what hospitals research into Hunter's syndrome and Hurler's disease is taking place; and for what period it has been going on.

Neither the Department nor the Medical Research Council is supporting research into these two conditions. Other bodies may support relevant research in NHS hospitals but records are not kept centrally.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many children aged under six years have been diagnosed in each year since 1979 as having Hurler's syndrome or Hunter's disease; how many children were treated in 1980–81; and how many are currently awaiting treatment.

I regret that information on the prevalence of this condition is not available centrally.

Schick Skin Testing

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will consider introducing the Schick skin testing of all children over the age of 10 years who have not received the full protective immunisation in infancy and early childhood against diphtheria and advising that negative reactions should be vaccinated as soon as possible.

For more than 15 years, between 75 per cent. and 80 per cent. of infants in England have received full immunisation against diphtheria, and the provisional percentage for 1981 was 83 per cent. The incidence of notifications of the disease in England and Wales in the past few years has been low: two cases were reported in each of the years 1976 and 1977; none in 1978 and 1979; five in 1980; and two in 1981 (provisional figure). The school health service is in a position to offer vaccination to those children who are not protected on entry to school, at which age it can be performed without a prior Schick test. In these circumstances, I have no plans to propose routine Schick testing of unvaccinated children over the age of 10 years. It is, of course, open to parents to consult their family doctor about this procedure.

Mentally Handicapped Patients

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will ensure that provision by local health authorities for mentally handicapped patients in the community is not at the expense of other compensatory cutbacks in other medical services such as geriatric and psychogeriatric provision.

Services for elderly, mentally ill and mentally handicapped people are among the priorities commended to health authorities in our policy handbook 'Care in Action'. It is for the district health authorities to determine how best to deploy their resources in the light of that guidance.The aim of the 'Care in the Community' initiative is to secure a redistribution of existing resources to provide more appropriate care for patients who do not need to be in hospital. Their move into the community will release resources tied up in unsuitable, outdated and often badly-sited buildings.

Supplementary Benefit

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what representations he has had requesting Her Majesty's Government to institute an extra £50 payment to people in receipt of supplementary benefit before Christmas to compensate for the abolition at short notice of rent-free weeks; if there are any steps he will be taking; and if he will make a statement.

I assume that the right hon. Gentleman is referring to the effect of the introduction of housing benefit on authorities with rent-free weeks. I have received one such representation. I shall be writing to the right hon. Gentleman but I would draw his attention to circular letter HB(82)3, which was recently sent by the Department to local authorities. A copy has been placed in the Library of the House.

Mr L M Thomas

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services why there has been a delay in reaching a decision on the case of Mr. L. M. Thomas, 45 Waun-Wen, Cwmavon, Port Talbot; when a decision was promised and for what date; and when it is likely now to be reached.

I wrote to the right hon. Member on 29 July explaining that Mr. Thomas' claim had been referred to the attendance allowance board for a decision. I understand that the board considered the claim on 14 September but decided that they needed a further consultant's report. It has not yet been possible to obtain the report but the board will re-consider the claim as soon as the report is available.

Great Ormond Street Hospital

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services who were the architects, civil engineers, consulting engineers and builders, respectively, of the cardiac block at Great Ormond Street hospital for sick children; and what organisation was supervising their work on behalf of the hospital.

The names of the firms employed by the board of governors of the Hospital for Sick Children for the design, construction and supervision of the cardiac block were as follows:

Architects:
Cusdin Burden & Howitt
Structural engineers:
R. T. James & Partners
Mechanical and electrical engineers:
Zisman & Bowyer
Quantity Surveyors:
Harris & Porter
Main contractor:
McLaughlin & Harvey Ltd.
Project managers (from December 1977):
Beard Dove Project Management Partnership
Their duties and responsibilities were in accordance with normal practice in the construction industry. Each consultant took professional responsibility for the detailed design, inspection and performance of the work entrusted to him and the architect had additional responsibility for the direction and integration of their work and his own. The architect was also required periodically to visit the site to inspect the progress and quality of the work and to determine in general if the main contractor and his sub-contractors were proceeding in accordance with the contract documents. Constant inspection was to be provided by a clerk of works under the architect's direction and control.Additionally, the structural engineers appointed a resident site engineer for the supervision of the structural engineering work carried out by the main contractor and his sub-contractors for a short period during the cardiac block contract.A project manager was appointed by the board of governors at the hospital. He was not responsible for the construction work on site or for the work of the consultants. He monitored the cost and progress of the work during the construction period and organised the equipping of commissioning of the building which would, but for structural defects, have converted the completed building into a fully staffed and operational building.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many beds were to have been provided in the cardiac block at Great Ormond Street hospital for sick children; and how many patients' bed days have been lost to date by the block remaining unoccupied because it is unsafe.

The cardiac block at Great Ormond Street hospital contains provision for 56 beds. It is estimated that 28,881 patients' bed days have been lost to date.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many beds, expressed in terms of bed days, have been empty in Great Ormond Street hospital for sick children in each financial year since March 1979 because of (a) shortage of funds, (b) shortage of nurses resulting from EEC regulations and (c) any other reasons.

I regret that information is not available in the form requested, which tries to assume a simplified and misleading analysis of the cause of empty beds.

Family Income Supplement

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the number of claimants drawing family income supplement employed by local authorities in (a) Wirral, (b) Liverpool and (c) Merseyside at the latest available date.

I regret that this information is not available. The occupational classifications used by the Department for statistical purposes are too general to enable local authority staff to be identified. Figures are also collected on the basis of social security regions. About 1,000 family income supplement recipients resident in the department's North-West (Merseyside) region were employed in the public sector in April 1982 (the latest date for which figures are available). For this purpose, the public sector includes employments in government departments, local authorities, nationalised industries and public corporations, boards and trusts.

Invalidity Benefit

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if it is the Government's intention to restore the 5 per cent. abatement of invalidity benefit during the present parliamentary Session.

We have given an unqualified commitment that the value of the invalidity pension will be restored when the benefit comes into tax. As an earnest of that intent, we restored the abatement of invalidity allowance in November 1981. No date for the taxation of invalidity benefit is fixed at present.

Unemployed Persons (Benefit)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) to what extent unemployed adults are permitted to participate in part time (a) adult education courses or (b) activity for Scouts or other voluntary bodies without losing their unemployment benefit;(2) what period must elapse before a young person after leaving school can take part in part-time education of less than 21 hours a week without losing unemployment benefit; when the rule was introduced; and why such a period is considered necessary.

An unemployed school leaver would not normally qualify for unemployment benefit, but would become entitled to supplementary benefit from the end of the holidays following his final term at school. To be eligible to undertake part-time study in receipt of benefit under the 21-hour rule—which applies to supplementary benefit only—he would need first to be available for work and in receipt of supplementary benefit for a period of three months before beginning a part-time course of up to 21 hours of classroom instruction a week.During the qualifying period, a young person under the age of 19 could follow a course of up to 15 hours a week inclusive of private study without bringing himself within the scope of child benefit and thus putting his own supplementary benefit entitlement at risk.This new qualifying condition was introduced in amending regulations which took effect on 9 August 1982, in order to distinguish between the unemployed people for whom the 21 hour rule concession is intended and those who are pursuing their educational career outside the employment field.A person's entitlement to unemployment benefit is not affected by any part-time study or unpaid voluntary work that he may undertake, provided he remains available for work. Similar rules apply to an unemployed adult in receipt of supplementary benefit but he may also take advantage of the 21 hour rule, which specifies that a person shall be treated as available for work provided that he satisfies all its conditions including the requirement to give up the course should a suitable vacancy become available.The rules which apply on voluntary work if this involves earning a little money are explained in leaflet NI 240. I am sending my hon. Friend a copy.

Miss Sheila Rossall

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what criteria governed the allocation of public funds for the treatment of Miss Sheila Rossall.

Patients (Operations)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will take steps to enable patients of the National Health Service whose operations have been indefinitely postponed to receive funds to enable them to be operated on as private patients.

No, but health authorities may contract for the use of the facilities of the private sector where they can contribute economically and effectively to the care of the NHS patients.

Elderly Persons (Physical And Mental Abuse)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what advice he gives to general practitioners to identify cases where families are physically or mentally abusing the elderly; and what guidance he gives to consultant geriatricians about admitting elderly people to hospital where abuse is suspected, at the same time avoiding encouraging those with elderly relatives to threaten or resort to abuse in order to get such relatives admitted.

These are essentially matters for professional judgment in the individual case and I do not think the Department could usefully issue general guidance. The strains on families caring for elderly relatives are widely recognised and I strongly support those services provided by the NHS, by local authorities and by voluntary organisations which share the burden of care.

Nicotine Chewing Gum

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he expects to receive from the advisory committee on borderline substances a recommendation whether nicotine chewing gum should be made available through general practitioners on the National Health Service as an aid to giving up smoking.

The advisory committee is meeting this month and I understand this subject is on the agenda.

Social Security (Fraud)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if, for each of the supplementary benefit offices at Thames north, Scarborough Street, London E1, Thames south, Marshalsea Road, London SE1 and Glasgow, Cranstonhill, respectively, he will publish in the Official Report(a) the number of full-time officers employed to investigate fraud, (b) the total number of fraud cases taken under the Supplementary Benefits Act 1976, the corresponding number of convictions obtained and the number of custodial sentences and fines, (c) the total number of supplementary benefit fraud cases taken under the Theft Act 1968, the corresponding number of convictions obtained and the number of custodial sentences and fines under each of the headings: (i) undisclosed earnings, (ii) failure to declare date/place of last claim, (iii) false address, and (iv) altered girocheque, respectively, and (d) the total number of supplementary benefit claims received; and if he will publish the corresponding total figures in (a) to (d) for all supplementary benefit offices taken together, in each case for the last full year for which figures are available.

Benefits

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will break down the figure of £180 million in paragraph 2.25 of the autumn Economic Statement into savings on particular benefits.

In settling the social security public expenditure programme for 1983–84 there has been a part year adjustment in the light of the fact that the 9 per cent. forecast at the time of the Budget was too high. The reduction does not represent a judgment on the precise level of next year's uprating, either generally or in respect of particular benefits. It is simply a decision that at the end of the day the overall increase in expenditure on social security will be £180 million less than it otherwise would have been. As my right hon. and learned Friend made clear in his Autumn Statement on 8 November, the precise extent of next year's uprating for individual benefits will, as usual, be decided at Budget time.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will increase by £10 child benefit and by £50 supplementary benefit and unemployment benefit for the week beginning 19 December.

Birth Statistics

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish the figures for 1979 and 1980 and the most recent rates of caesarian section as a percentage of total births in England and Wales; and if he will break these down to show the figures for each regional health authority.

Data for 1979 and 1980 are not yet available. The numbers of caesarian sections as a percentage of total births in England and Wales, Wales, and the English regional health authorities in 1978 were as follows:

Number of Caesarian Sections as a Percentage of Total Births, 1978, England and Wales, Regional Health Authorities
Percentage rate
Area of residence
England and Wales7·2
Wales5·3
Regional health authority
Northern7·2
Yorkshire6·8
Trent7·2
East Anglian6·1
North-West Thames7·3
North-East Thames9·0
South-East Thames7·0
South-West Thames8·2
Wessex7·6
Oxford6·2
South Western7·6
West Midlands7·1
Mersey7·3
North Western7·6
Estimated*world pricesCommon levy†‡United Kingdom MCAUnited Kingdom levy
£/tonne£/tonne£/tonne£/tonne
Beef and veal923║1,0191951,214
Sheepmeat1,376¶—
Pigmeat72325791348
Poultrymeat60116826194
Eggs23217530206
Butter1,264845231•1,077
Skimmed milk powder50941297509
Common wheat74631376
Barley64611273
Maize60661277
Rice156270270
Olive oil656217217
Sugar11623537▀272

* World prices have been taken as the minimum offer prices of imports underlying the calculation of the variable levies and have been calculated by subtracting the levies in ECUs applicable on 27 October from the appropriate threshold/guide price in ECUs. The beef price is also adjusted for duty. For eggs the "world price" has been taken as the sluicegate price less supplementary levy; for pigmeat and poultrymeat sluicegate prices have been taken. "World prices" have been converted from ECUs at the market rate used for calculating the MCA on 27 October of 1·83075 ECU=£1.

† The rates of levy and United Kingdom MCAs in force on 27 October 1982. These rates vary for different tariff headings. The rates quoted are: beef and veal—carcase; pigmeat—carcase; poultrymeat—70 per cent. chickens; rice—wholly milled long grain; olive oil—virgin lampante.

‡ For most commodities common levy in sterling has been obtained by converting the common levy in ECUs at the representative rate and

Health Education (Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish in the Official Report details of the total expended by his Department on health education in each year since 1974; and if he will specify what proportion of this expenditure was on information and advertising to counter alcohol abuse.

The Health Education Council undertakes national health education programmes on behalf of the Government in England, Wales and Northern Ireland. The council's expenditure since 1974, including the amounts spent on measures aimed at countering alcohol abuse, are published in the council's annual reports, which are available in the Library. Information about expenditure on health education by local health services and education authorities is not available centrally.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Food Prices

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will publish in the Official Report a table showing for each commodity subject to the common agricultural policy (a) the world price, (b) the common agricultural policy levy, (c) the monetary compensation amount for the United Kingdom, (d) the United Kingdom levy and (e) United Kingdom consumption in 1981.

The information on levies and "world prices" for the main commodities is provided in the following table. The third country offer prices used by the Commission to determine rates of levy applicable on 27 October 1982 are taken as the world price. For pigmeat, poultrymeat and eggs the world price is taken as the current sluicegate price, less supplementary levies where appropriate. As I have repeatedly emphasised the figures do not accurately represent the price at which the United Kingdom or the Community could buy from world markets if more supplies from third countries were sought. Estimates of food supplies for human consumption are not yet available for 1981.

multiplying by the United Kingdom monetary co-efficient of 0·893. For rice and olive oil, to which MCAs do not apply, the United Kingdom levy is the common levy converted at the representative rate. The sum of the common levy and United Kingdom MCA may not equal the United Kingdom net levy due to rounding.

║ Most imports of beef from third countries are subject to special arrangements allowing entry at reduced levy rates.

¶ Imports of lamb under voluntary restraint agreement with principal suppliers and related agreements are subject to a reduced charge of 10 per cent. ad valorem. Any imports outside these arrangements are subject to levies which cannot exceed the 20 per cent. tariff rate bound in the GATT.

• A special lower rate of levy is applicable to imports of butter from New Zealand.

▀ In practice United Kingdom imports from third countries are normally covered by the Lomé convention and enter the Community levy-free.

Canadian Fish Exports

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what have been the volume and value of imports of frozen and wet fish from Canada into (a) the United Kingdom and (b) the rest of the European Economic Community for the last two available years; and if he will specify in each case the tariff rate charged.

The volume and value of imports of fresh, chilled and frozen fish (excluding shellfish) from Canada into the United Kingdom and the rest of the European Economic Community in 1979 and 1980 were:

Tonnes'000 ECU
1979198019791980
(a) United Kingdom11,660716,27413,05119,839
(b) Other European Community countries54,27752,55686,38089,496

Source: Analytical Tables of Foreign Trade (Statistical Office of the European Communities) Community.

These imports, which covered a wide variety of species and presentations, would have attracted the appropriate duty rate provided for in the Community's common customs tariff.

Danish Frozen Processed Fish

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the value of frozen processed fish for the consumer market imported from Denmark in each of the five most recent available years.

Information on imports of processed frozen fish in a form ready for the consumer market is not separately distinguishable in the trade statistics.Information is, however, available on the value of frozen fillets (including quantities for further processing) imported from Denmark into the United Kingdom. The figures for the five most recent available years are as follows:

£'000
19773,947
19786,473
197910,320
198016,640
198119,006

12-Mile Limit (Reporting And Inspection)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will introduce for foreign vessels exercising historic rights within the British 12-mile limits a similar system of reporting and inspection to that used by Norway on British vessels.

A comprehensive reporting and inspection system for Community member States will come into effect not later than 1 January 1983 and will cover all Community waters, including coastal belts where there are rights to fish.

Milk

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food why he has agreed to increase the price of milk by a penny a pint.

The increase in the maximum retail price of milk of a penny a pint from 14 November is necessary to meet increased costs of production, processing and distribution. I hope that it will be possible to avoid a further increase for a considerable period.

Brewers Society (Code Of Practice)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) how many and which breweries accept the Brewers Society code of practice as the appropriate machinery for the regulation of rents and tenancies;(2) what assurances were given to the National Union of Licensed Victuallers about the operation of the code of practice in the licensed trade when they met the Parliamentary Secretary recently;(3) what representations he has made to the Brewers Society about the code of practice that applies to tenancies in the licensed trade; and if they have undertaken to make changes in the code;(4) what representations he has received about the operation of the code of practice that applies to tenancies in the licensed trade.

I recently discussed the voluntary code of practice on tenant security with the National Union of Licensed Victuallers. The union confirmed that the code when applied properly provides a better level of protection to publicans than that given to other commercial tenants under current legislation. The union accepted that the large majority of brewers, representing 90–95 per cent. of tied houses, had accepted the code. However, it felt that the code was not observed adequately, particularly over rent reviews, and that this had led to some difficulties for tenants. It agreed that the best solution lay in improving the operation of the current voluntary arrangements rather than in new legislation.I have written to the chairman of the Brewers' Society to draw his attention to the NULV's comments and understand that the society will shortly be meeting the NULV.

Animal Feeding Stuff

asked the Minister of Agriculture., Fisheries and Food if he will take steps to ensure that manufacturers of animal feeding stuffs have to print on containers (a) ingredients of mix and in what quantity, (b) quality and (c) any other relevant information.

The Feeding Stuffs Regulations 1982 laid before the House on 25 August this year require that purchasers must be provided with a statutory statement which includes, among other things, the animals for which the feed is intended, directions for use and the amount of protein, oil, fibre and ash present. This information is intended to enable the purchaser to judge the quality of the products.The regulations also provide that lists of ingredients may be included in the statutory statement on a voluntary basis.On the evidence submitted to me so far, I consider that the cost of mandatory ingredient listing would outweigh the advantages. Nevertheless I am ready to consider any new evidence which may be submitted.

Lime Subsidy

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will now consider reinstating the lime subsidy to the agricultural industry for all productive land rather than to the less favoured areas alone; and if he will make a statement.

The use of lime is a cost-effective operation of normal good husbandry. The level of usaage increased in 1981 and trade sources indicate that this trend has continued in the first nine months of 1982. I have no plans to introduce a further subsidy.

Fish Processing And Selling

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will consider granting financial aid to the fish processing industries and the fish merchants' associations on the same basis as the British fishing industry; and if he will make a statement.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply which I gave to his question on 11 November 1982.—[Vol. 31, c. 240.]

Transport

Heavy Goods Vehicles

asked the Secretary of State for Transport (1) if he will enumerate the most common defects found in heavy goods vehicles both in the annual routine inspection and at the random roadside checks; and what measures the inspectorate takes to ensure that defects are corrected before the vehicle resumes its customary duties;(2) what percentage of heavy goods vehicles, when subjected to the routine annual roadworthiness test, are found to have serious defects which need immediate attention;(3) what percentage of heavy goods vehicles, when subjected to random roadside tests of roadworthiness carried out by Department of Transport inspectors, are found to have serious defects sufficient to make the vehicle unsafe to use the public highway.

The most common defects found during annual inspection of goods vehicles in the year ended 31 March 1982 were as follows:

Percentage of vehicles inspected
1. Service brake performance6·768
2. Secondary brake performance6·194
3. Parking brake performance5·575
4. Brake pipes, reservoir etc.3·282
5. Mechanical brake components1·871
6. Oil leaks1·644
7. Suspension units (attachment)1·555
8. Steering linkage1·454
9. Tyres1·419
Details of the above defects found during annual inspections are held on computer. However, basic details of spot shecks are collected manually and I regret that analysis by specific defect could not be carried out except with great difficulty and at disproportionate cost.Where the defects are found during the course of a routine test, the vehicle is failed and has to be submitted for retest after the necessary repairs have been carried out. If on an annual test or a roadside spot check a defect is discovered which is of such severity that there would be an immediate risk to road safety if the vehicle were driven on a road then it is issued with an "immediate" prohibition notice. In this event the defect must be rectified and the vehicle given a further full inspection by the vehicle examiner before it is allowed to return to normal operation. In the year ended 31 March 1982. 0·268 per cent. of all motor vehicles and trailers submitted for a routine annual test were issued with an "immediate" prohibition notice.In the year ended 30 September 1982, 6·61 per cent. of all motor vehicles and trailers inspected at random roadside checks were issued with an "immediate" prohibition notice.When, on a roadside check a less serious defect is found ie such that the vehicle is, or is likely to become, unfit for service but does not represent an immediate risk to public safety it is issued with a "delayed" prohibition. Before a "delayed" prohibition can be cleared the defect must be rectified and the vehicle presented within 10 days at the most for further examination by a vehicle examiner.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he is satisfied that there are sufficient heavy goods testing facilities and inspectors; and whether there has been any reduction in the effectiveness of the inspectorate because of reduced numbers over the past three years.

There are 69 main and 23 ancillary heavy goods vehicle testing stations in England, Scotland and Wales. The location of the stations is such that 80–90 per cent. of vehicles do not have to travel more than 15 miles for the annual test and most of the remainder do not have to travel more than 25 miles. There are no delays in providing annual tests for vehicles once test applications have been received.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will take steps to ensure that fuel-injection equipment in heavy vehicles is sealed to prevent tampering.

We are looking at ways of dealing with the problem of tampering, while still allowing necessary adjustments to be made.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will seek to introduce six-monthly tests for heavy vehicles.

I consider that the present arrangements for annual testing, backed by other powers to inspect vehicles at other times, are adequate. To double the frequency of checks would impose an undue burden on the resources of the industry and the testing organisation.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport how many lorries jack-knifed in fatal and serious accidents in 1981.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport (1) what progress is being made towards the establishment of a British standard for spray suppression equipment for heavy goods vehicles; and if he will make a statement;(2) what official research has taken place in recent years into overcoming the dangers to other motorists of spray caused by heavy goods vehicles.

My Department has funded research on spray suppression by Southampton University in collaboration with the transport and road research laboratory. I understand that the BSI committee preparing a standard on this subject has had several meetings and aims to complete its work in 1983.

A40 (Greenford)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will take immediate steps to ensure an adequate and level pavement between the Greenford roundabout and the Hoover factory, including Welland Gardens and part of the A40.

Bedford Bypass

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will give a broad outline of the two alternative schemes referred to in the answer of 9 November, Official Report, c. 138, together with the routes envisaged.

both alternatives would include the Western relief road, about which the public were consulted by Bedfordshire county council last year. One would also include a southern bypass running near Eastcotts and Cardington and the other a route closer to Bedford. I cannot be more specific because our thinking is at a very early stage and I do not wish to cause unnecessary blight.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will seek from Bedfordshire county council the information necessary for the full assessment of the economic and environmental benefits of constructing bypasses of Bedford on the A6 and A428 in time for such bypasses to be included in the roads programme before the introduction of heavier lorries.

I hope to be able to consider these bypasses in next year's review of the roads programme. The Government's proposals for higher maximum gross weights for lorries will keep the number of lorry journeys to a minimum and thus help the environment even in towns which have not yet been bypassed. The regulations which have now been laid also include additional safety features for lorries and better controls over their dimensions.

Accountants And Consultants

asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether records of the employment by his Department of accountants, management consultants and other consultants from outside the Civil Service are kept by his Department.

House Of Commons

Members' Travel

asked the right hon. Member for Middlesbrough, as representing the House of Commons Commission, what is the policy of the Commission regarding the choice of airline for hon. Members and officials of the House travelling on official parliamentary business.

Environment

Coal-Fired Power Stations

40.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will arrange for an assessment of the material emitted from coal-fired power stations.

I would refer the hon. Member to chapters 17 and 18 of the report on Coal and the Environment (published by HMSO in 1981) from the Commission on Energy and the Environment which discussed and assessed the combustion residues of coal and the effects of those residues. There are copies available in the Library of the House.

Hatfield And Welwyn Garden City

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he has finished consideration of the transfer schemes for Hatfield and Welwyn Garden City of town centre assets held by the Commission for the New Towns and intended for local authority responsibility; and if he will make a statement.

I have let Welwyn Hatfield district council and the Commission for the New Towns know that the scheme is in general acceptable, subject to some minor points, on which discussions are proceeding.

First-Time Buyer Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will now improve the first-time buyer scheme by introducing a £1 grant for every £2 saved towards a home deposit; and if he will make a statement.

The total cost of the proposed scheme in 1982 would be some £600 million. We doubt whether spending of this magnitude would be the most effective way of helping first-time buyers.

Listed Buildings

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what are the latest figures for the number of listed buildings of architectural or historic interest in each county of England.

On 30 September 1982 there were 285,483 listed buildings in England. New listings by individual county are not recorded by my Department. The latest available figures are as follows:

Numbers
Bedfordshire2,501
Berkshire3,236
Buckinghamshire4,122
Cambridgeshire4,695
Cheshire3,863
Cleveland414
Cornwall4,908
Cumbria5,062
Derbyshire4,532
Devon11,752
Dorset8,259
Durham2,060
East Sussex6,654
Essex9,465
Gloucestershire7,751
Greater London31,243
Hampshire6,065
Hereford/Worcester8,594
Hertfordshire4,668
Humberside2,392
Isle of Wight1,735
Kent16,638
Lancashire4,236
Leicestershire3,456
Lincolnshire4,111
Merseyside4,811
Norfolk7,982
Northamptonshire2,999
Northumberland2,264
North Yorkshire8,404
Nottinghamshire2,541
Oxfordshire7,126
Shropshire (Salop)4,473
Somerset6,431
South Yorkshire1,943
Staffordshire2,989
Suffolk9,345
Surrey4,755
Tyne and Wear2,007
Warwickshire4,942
West Midlands2,182
West Sussex5,957
West Yorkshire7,250
Wiltshire9,544
TOTAL274,022

Improvement Grants

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if, in view of the many problems confronting local authorities such as the London borough of Newham, he will make larger grants more easily available to such councils for housing improvements in both the public and private sectors.

I assume the hon. Member is referring to the capital resources available to local authorities for improvement, and refer him to the reply given by my right hon. Friend to my hon. Friend the Member for Reading, North (Mr. Durant) on 27 October.—[Vol. 9, c.455.]

Mr R Cresswell

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he received a communication from the hon. Member for Newham, North-West with a letter from solicitors concerning his constituent Mr. R. Cresswell of Stratford E.15; why the hon. Member has not received a reply in view of the fact that on 1 November a letter GLH/5026/19/346 was sent to the solicitors; whether he will publish this letter in the Official Report; and if he will take steps to investigate the matter.

The hon. Member's letter of 29 October, about the problem drawn to his attention by the solicitors acting for Mr. Cresswell of Stratford, London E.15, was received in my Department on 1 November 1982. On the same day the Department replied to a letter dated 19 October from the solicitors and I have today made available a copy of this letter for publication in the Official Report. I shall be writing to the hon. Member shortly replying to the points raised in his letter of 29 October and in his further letter of 6 November.The letter to Mr. Cresswell, from Mr. M. Frankel, of the Greater London housing division, was as follows:

  • 1. I am replying to your letter of 19 October 1982.
  • 2. The Department is waiting for a submission from the London Borough of Newham under the housing project control arrangements. Once the council has worked out a scheme for the site and submitted it to the Department, it will be dealt with as quickly as possible.
  • Official Cars

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will publish in the Official Report details of when and on what occasions those former Prime Ministers who have the supply and use of Government cars have not had their usual car, but used different cars from within the pool of cars.

    Safety Glass

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether consideration is being given to an alteration to the building regulations to require only safety glass to be used in fully glazed doors; and if he will make a statement.

    My right hon. Friend is carrying out a major review of the building regulations. In May 1982, as part of that review, we consulted widely on both the form and the content of the regulations. We are considering the replies to that consultation and the arguments for and against extending the regulations to apply to glazing.

    Rainfall (Acid Content)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what research he has carried out into the acid content in rainfall in various parts of the United Kingdom; and what steps are taken to counteract injurious effects.

    The acidity of rainfall is being monitored at four sites in the United Kingdom. An interim report on the results of these measurements, prepared by the acid rain review group, was issued in June. An increase in the number of sites is currently under consideration. My Department is also funding research into the possible effects of acid rain. However, there is no evidence at present to suggest that the levels of air pollution, including acid rain, experienced in this country are having serious or widespread effects on the environment.

    Buildings (Insulation)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is his latest estimate of the percentage of (a) homes and (b) Government buildings which can be classified as having adequate insulation.

    It is impossible to estimate the percentage of homes with adequate insulation because adequacy would depend on individual circumstances.For the Government estate the PSA has a continuing programme of improving insulation on a cost-effective basis which is being implemented as fast as resources permit. At present some 90 per cent. of Government buildings can be classified as having adequate insulation on this basis.

    Tin Mines

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if, following talks between his officials and representatives of the Cornish tin mining industry, any possible formula has emerged for changing the rates liability of tin mines; and if he will make a statement.

    Several possible changes in the method of assessing tin mines for rating purposes were discussed at the meeting to which my hon. Friend refers. I expect shortly to be in a position to decide whether any change would be appropriate, and what form it might take.

    Strongbridge Housing Association

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what steps he proposes to take over the Strongbridge housing association; and if he will make a statement.

    A report on the financial affairs of the Strongbridge housing association and its sister organisation the South-East Regional housing association, was prepared by a senior officer of the Housing Corporation (with the agreement of the GLC, the London boroughs of Hillingdon and Sutton, the Royal borough of Kensington and Chelsea, the Department of the Environment and the corporation) in July and August of this year. Both associations have now been placed under the control of new committees comprising members appointed by the Housing Corporation under statutory powers, and drawn from the local authorities mentioned above, the Housing Corporation and the Metropolitan Housing Trust. Both associations are to be transferred to the Metropolitan Housing Trust.

    Merseyside (Secretary Of State's Visit)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement on his recent visit to Merseyside.

    I last visited Merseyside on 4/5 November. I visited the ITEC in Liverpool 8, met officials of my task force, addressed a Merseyside Police Federation meeting and I announced a major new housing initiative at Knowsley concerning the Cantril Farm housing estate.

    Capital Receipts

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will provide details of the assumptions, including the number of council house sales, behind his assumption for capital receipts for (a) 1982–83 and (b) 1983–84.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) to what extent local authorities can use the financial element of their capital receipts to service any additional borrowing following upon his most recent announcement that £1 billion in capital allocations is to be made more widely available to local authorities;(2) whether he will set out the mechanisms by which local authorities can use capital receipts.

    In resource terms, local authorities may use capital receipts, or such proportion thereof as may be prescribed, to justify expenditure in excess of their capital expenditure allocations. In addition, they may in general use the cash from their capital receipts for any, or any combination, of the following purposes:

  • (a) to repay existing debt;
  • (b) to finance investment within the expenditure limits permitted by block capital expenditure allocations and any supplementary allocations which may be en, thus obviating the need for new borrowing;
  • (c) to finance investment over and above these limits, permitted by the capital receipts themselves;
  • (d) for any other purpose to which the Secretary of State may consent.
  • The position is not affected by my right hon. Friend's statement of 27 October.

    Council House Sales

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment, for the latest available 12-month period, what is the number of council houses that have been sold.

    Shared Purchase

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will encourage local authorities to take up the proposals put forward by the House Builders Federation and allocate part of their capital underspend by purchasing new houses built or in the course of building and re-selling on a shared purchase basis.

    I refer my hon. Friend to my right hon. Friend's statement today in which he urged local authorities to follow this course.

    Water Charges

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what were the standing charges per year on water services to domestic properties five years ago; and what they are today.

    The following table shows the standing charges levied by water authorities to domestic premises receiving an unmeasured water supply. Standing charges have been gradually introduced following the recommendations of the National Water Council in its Report "Paying for Water" published in 1976.

    Water authorityAnnual standing charge
    Water supplySewerage services
    1977–781982–831977–781982–83
    ££££
    North-West3·3013·00
    Northumbrian2·502·50
    Yorkshire5·00
    Anglian5·0012·0010·00
    Thames11·0011·00
    Southern7·0011·20
    South-West14·403·60
    Welsh11·00
    Standing charges on unmeasured domestic supplies are not at present levied by Severn Trent or Wessex water authorities.Information in respect of water companies is as follows:

    Annual standing charges
    Water company1977–781982–83
    ££
    Bournemouth and District12·00
    Bristol9·00
    Cambridge7·00
    Chester3·0011·00
    Colne Valley8·00
    East Anglian8·00
    Eastbourne11·60
    East Surrey11·50
    East Worcestershire8·00
    Essex12·00
    Folkestone11·00
    Hartlepools8·00
    Lee Valley11·00
    Mid Kent18·00 to 22·00
    Mid Southern11·00
    Mid Sussex11·50
    Newcastle and Gateshead4·00
    North Surrey11·00
    Portsmouth8·00
    Rickmansworth and Uxbridge11·00
    Sutton District12·00
    Sunderland and South Shields8·60
    Tendring Hundred11·00
    West Hampshire6·50
    West Kent14·00
    Wrexham and East Denbighshire4·0012·00
    York7·00
    The South Staffordshire Waterworks Company does not levy a standing charge. The information supplied in respect of 1977–78 is taken from that year's Water Services Year Book.

    Interest Rates

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment to what extent reductions in interest rates influence the allocation of funds by his Department to local authorities.

    Loan charges are one component of relevant expenditure for rate support grant purposes. They are treated as variable items, and the total of grants is adjusted to take account of variations due to movements in interest rates. For 1982–83 interest rates have fallen below the level assumed in the rate support grant settlement. We are consulting local government on grant reductions to reflect that.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether, when a reduction in interest rates payable by local authorities occurs, he will take steps to reduce rents paid by local authority tenants.

    Decisions on rent levels are a matter for individual housing authorities in the light of their own particular financial circumstances. It is, however, relevant to note that Exchequer subsidy increases or decreases according to whether authorities' pool rates of interest increase or decrease. Changes in interest rates are therefore generally unlikely to have a material effect on the housing revenue account balance of authorities still entitled to Exchequer subsidy.

    Public Expenditure

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list, on an annual basis, all cuts in public expenditure in excess of £5 million which he has made since May 1979 at both current and 1982 prices, indicating in each case the size of the cut as a percentage of the departmental budget for that year.

    I have been asked to reply.I refer the hon. Member to the relevant Public Expenditure White Papers (Cmnd. 7746, 7841, 8175 and 8494) and to the Autumn Statement laid before the House on 8 November last. I regret that a comprehensive analysis in the form requested could be provided only with a disproportionate expenditure of time and effort.