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Volume 50: debated on Wednesday 7 December 1983

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Written Answers To Questions

Wednesday 7 December 1983

Transport

Disabled Persons (Car Conversion Equipment)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will publish the code of practice for the manufacture, testing and supply of car control conversion equipment for the disabled.

I am very conscious of the need to maintain safety standards for car control conversions for disabled people, but in our view the draft code might inhibit development and I have no plans to publish it in its present form.

Roads (Trunking)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will publish a list of principal roads in each metropolitan county which might be trunked on the basis stated in paragraph 11 of the consultation document, "Reorganisation of local government in the metropolitan counties: reallocation of transport responsibilities".

It would be misleading to publish any list until I have considered the comments which local authorities and others are free to make until the end of January in response to the consultation document.

Road Schemes (Grants)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will list in the Official Report all local authority road schemes accepted for transport supplementary grant payable in 1983–84.

Transport supplementary grant relates to the total accepted expenditure for each county. Grant payments cannot be related to particular capital schemes.

Public Transport, London

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what guidance he has given to the metropolitan county councils and the Greater London council under the provisions of the Transport Act 1983 about protected levels of revenue support to public transport in the next financial year.

I have given these authorities guidance, under the provisions of section 4(5) of the Transport Act 1983, that the maximum amounts of revenue grants which it would in my opinion be appropriate for them to make in the year beginning 1 April 1984 are:

AuthorityProtected Expenditure Level (PEL)
£ million
Greater London266*
Greater Manchester50

Authority

Protected Expenditure Level (PEL) £ million

£ million
Merseyside43
South Yorkshire36
Tyne and Wear22·5
West Midlands30
West Yorkshire46

* Including £141 million in respect of capital grants by the GLC in aid of London Transport's provision for depreciation and renewals.

Environment

European Community (Pilot Housing Actions)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will identify the pilot housing projects for the handicapped in the United Kingdom which have received aid from the European Community's scheme of funding for pilot housing actions since 1979; and how many dwellings are involved in each case.

Funding arrangements for individual pilot housing projects are a matter for direct negotiation between the European Community and applicants for support under the scheme. The latest information on United Kingdom projects funded under the scheme was set out in Community document COM/ 80/491, instrument 9720/80, in which the Commission reported on projects funded between 1974 and 1978, considered by the Commons Select Committee on European legislation in March 1981.

Council House Sales

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many council (a) houses and (b) flats have been sold since 1979 by the London borough of Ealing; how these figures compare with other London boroughs; and if he will make a statement.

Figures of sales of houses and flats by London boroughs for the years 1979–80 to 1982–83 were given in my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Lewisham, West (Mr. Maples) on 15 November. —[Vol. 48, c. 384.] Figures reported by the boroughs for the quarter ending June 1983 are as follows:

Sale of local authority dwellings—London boroughs April-June 1983
HousesFlats
Barking and Dagenham1837
Barnet14264
Bexley497
Brentn.a.n.a.
Bromley14332
Camden1138
Croydon1720
Ealing11430
Enfield9738
Greenwich7337
Hackneyn.a.n.a.
Hammersmith and Fulham3525
Haringey6911
Harrow468
Havering10416
Hillingdonn.a.n.a.
Hounslow16415
Islington2061

Houses

Flats

Kensington and Chelsea1019
Kingston upon Thames5712
Lambeth3979
Lewishamn.a.n.a.
Merton10212
Newham

*146

*0

Redbridge10220
Richmond upon Thames4522
Southwark6740
Sutton9015
Tower Hamletsn.a.n.a.
Waltham Forest7028
Wandsworth113143
Westminster2540
n.a.not available.

*right to buy sales only.

Yorkshire Water Authority

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many staff were employed by the Yorkshire water authority (a) in its first year of operation, and (b) at the latest date; and what percentage of these totals were employees engaged on administrative functions.

The Yorkshire water authority employed 5,422 staff in its first month—April 1974—6,154 by the end of its first year and 6,163 staff in September 1983. The proportion of non-manual staff was 35 per cent. in March 1975 and 49 per cent. in September 1983.

Rowton Hostels

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if his Department will allocate capital and revenue finance to a London-wide programme for the replacement of the three Rowton hostels in London; and if he will make a statement.

I shall shortly be meeting representatives of the local authorities directly concerned, to discuss the capital and revenue implications of their proposals for the management, refurbishment and replacement of the hostels.

Chelson Meadow, Sparkwell (Gipsy Site)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what progress has been made with regard to the designation of a gipsy site at Chelson Meadow, Sparkwell; and when he hopes to make the requisite designation as recommended by the local inquiry instituted by the Devon county council.

My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State is currently considering an objection lodged by the Plymouth city council under Section 8 of the Caravan Sites Act 1968 to the proposed gipsy site at Chelson meadow. In doing so he will take account of all the information that is put before him, which will include the findings of the informal public inquiry set up by Devon county council.

Common Land (Dartmoor)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if Her Majesty's Government are satisfied with the speed of registration of commoners' rights on common land on Dartmoor; and if he will expedite registration in view of the deposit of the petition for the Dartmoor Commons Bill.

The hearing of objections concerning common rights on Dartmoor is proceeding as speedily as possible. One of the four commons commissioners has been employed full time on this since April 1982 and the complexity of the work is such that it is considered expedient that the remaining cases should be dealt with by the same commissioner.

Caravan Sites And Control Of Development Act 1960

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he wil llist those exempted organisations holding certificates issued by his Department permitting them to hold rallies and set up managed sites under the first schedule to the Caravan Sites and Control of Development Act 1960; how many certificates have been withdrawn; and how many of those holding exempted certificates have notified the local planning authorities of their intention to use a particular site.

The organisations holding certificates that are permitted to hold caravan rallies and set up managed sites are:

  • The Caravan Club Ltd
  • The Camping Club of Great Britain and Ireland Ltd
  • The Motor Caravanners Club Ltd
No such certificates have been withdrawn and I understand that it is the practice of all three organisations to notify local planning authorities of their intention to set up a particular managed site.

Bs 6262

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what consideration he has given to including in the building regulations the minimum standards incorporated in BS 6262

BS 6262 is the British Standard code of practice for glazing in buildings and contains recommendations on safety of glazing. We are always willing to consider the case for building regulations which improve the safety of people in and around buildings, but in this case I understand that the code of practice has been effective and that the glazing industry has been successful in securing the widespread adoption of the recommended standards. My officials are in touch with the British Standards Institution over ways of removing any obstacles that may remain in securing full adoption of the standard by voluntary means.

Trade And Industry

Trading Standards

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether he intends that trading standards work currently undertaken by metropolitan county councils should, on their abolition, be handed over to the chambers of commerce; and if he will consider appropriate fundings.

No. As indicated in the White Paper "Streamlining the Cities", Cmnd. 9063, the proposal is that responsibility for trading standards work currently undertaken by metropolitan county councils should pass to the appropriate district councils.

British Technology Group (Company Disposals)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what companies presently under the umbrella of the British Technology Group are currently being considered for disposal.

Under the 1980 Guidelines for the NEB, the board is required to dispose of all its investments as soon as commercially practicable.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry (1) what is the current situation in relation to the disposal of Bull Motors Ltd. by the British Technology Group; and whether steps are being considered in this context to preserve the firm as a provider of employment and as a source of competition;(2) whether he will ensure that any disposal of Bull Motors Ltd. by the British Technology Group will be undertaken with firm safeguards to prevent asset-stripping;(3) whether he will ensure that detailed discussions will take place with all parties who may be interested in acquiring Bull Motors from the British Technology Group.

This is a matter for the British Technology Group in the first instance. My right hon. Friend has received no proposal from them in relation to the disposal of Bull Motors Ltd.

Nitrosamine

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether his Department has made any study of the presence of nitrosamine in babies' dummies and teats.

The laboratory of the government chemist, a research establishment of my Department, has taken part in an extensive collaborative study on the analytical determination of nitrosamines in babies' teats organised by the Ministry of Health — Bundesgesundheitsamt — of the Federal Republic of Germany. It is now in a position to provide reliable data on nitrosamines in teats if required by Departments or industry. Additionally, the laboratory has given advance advice to United Kingdom rubber manufacturers on the analytical methodology so that they may be able to make their own measurements.

Trading Standards Services

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what are his proposals for the provision of trading standards services in metropolitan areas after the abolition of the metropolitan authorities.

I refer the hon. Member to my answer to the hon. Member for Liverpool, Mossley Hill (Mr. Alton) of 7 December 1983.

Consumer Credit Act 1974

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what representations he has had asking for amendments to section 68(a) of the Consumer Credit Act to change the emphasis in that section from the date on which the consumer received the posted notice to the date on which it was posted to him; and from whom.

I have received representations on behalf of the Glass and Glazing Federation asking for this amendment to section 68(a) of the Consumer Credit Act 1974.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether he will consider amending section 68(a) of the Consumer Credit Act to change the emphasis in that section from the date on which the consumer received the posted notice to the date on which it was posted to him.

No. There is no evidence to suggest that this type of provision, which operates at present under other statutes, gives rise to abuse.

Political Donations

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether he will seek to amend the relevant legislation to enable pension funds and unit trusts to vote in cases where companies in which they share the equity seek authority from their shareholders to make political donations.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Common Agricultural Policy

68.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what increase in expenditure on agriculture in the European Community Her Majesty's Government expect in 1984.

The provision in the European Communities 1984 draft budget for expenditure on the common agricultural policy is 600 million ecu above the provision made in 1983. But the hon. Member will know that discussions on the reform of the common agricultural policy are still continuing.

Sellafield (Fish And Shellfish Monitoring)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will publish the results of the monitoring of fish and shellfish which his Department has carried out following the recent incident at Sellafield; and if he will make a statement.

My Department's fisheries radiobiological laboratory has analysed samples of fish and shellfish collected in the Sellafield area. For fish the range of values obtained was consistent with the levels of radioactivity that would have been expected prior to the incident. The concentrations of caesium are in general less than those recently published for 1981 reflecting the reduction in 137Cs discharges from Sellafield. No other radionuclides were detected in fish. It is clear from these results that any additional exposure to members of the public resulting from the recent incident through the consumption of fish would be negligible.For shellfish only 106Ru in some samples of mussels was found at a significantly higher level than usual., and there is some evidence that even this may be declining. Even on the most pessimistic assumptions the resulting doses to the most exposed members of the public would not approach the limit recommended by the International Commission on Radiological Protection. Details of the results are given in the following tables:

Fish Flesh—November 1983
DateLocationType137Cs Bq. kg-1
15 November 1983RavenglassPlaice240
Cod250
16 November 1983Whitehaven MarketPlaice110
18 November 1983Sellafield Pipeline AreaPlaice260
Whiting400
Flounder310
Brill490
Dab280
Codling230
20 November 1983Whitehaven MarketPlaice170
RavensglassCod360
22 November 1983Whitehaven MarketCod100
24 November 1983DriggCod540
Whitehaven MarketHerring64
Shellfish—November 1983
Concentrations Bq. kg-1 (wet)
DateLocationType106Ru95Zr95Nb137Cs241Am
15 November 1983NethertownWinkles3,40012040018018
18 November 1983Sellafield pipeline (sea)Whelks1,400249911011
21 November 1983Sellafield (Beach)Winkles8,6004601,70025095
Mussels29,0002,0005,20015042
St. BeesWinkles2,000521508217
Mussels3,100922808145
Limpets1,70016037013056
22 November 1983RavenglassMussels5,9004202,4009857
24 November 1983DriggMussels14,0007902,200160ND
BarnscarWinkles4,50014049016060
29 November 1983Sellafield (Beach)Mussels8,1004701,1707928

German Shepherd Dogs

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many German Shepherd dogs were exported to Nigeria in 1981, 1982 and to the nearest available date in 1983.

I have been asked to reply.I regret that this information is not available as dogs are not separately identified in the statistics of overseas trade.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will take immediate steps to ban the mass exporting of German Shepherd dogs to Nigeria; and if he will make a statement.

I have been asked to reply.No. I am not satisfied on present evidence that it would be right to interfere with the export of dogs.

Defence

Submarine Refits

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what has been the cost of refits for conventional submarines giving the cost in each case, and for each of the past seven years, at (a) royal dockyards and (b) British Shipbuilders.

It is not our normal practice to provide details of dockyard costs on a case by case basis or release information on the prices charged by contractors.

Cnd Membership (Armed Forces)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether it is his policy to retain members of the armed forces who join Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament; and if he will make a statement.

Under successive Governments service men have been debarred from taking an active part in the affairs of any political organisation or party.

The Arts

National Archives Council

asked the Under-Secretary of State answering in respect of the Arts (1) whether he will introduce legislation to set up a National Archives Council, incorporating the relevant professional expertise, to tender advice on all matters relating to historical documentary records;(2) whether he will introduce legislation to establish minimum standards for the custody of archives in public and other licensed repositories, covering matters such as storage condition, level of establishment and training of staff;(3) whether he will introduce legislation to create a national inspectorate to monitor the maintenance of standards in the care of archives at national and local level and to administer a system of registration and licensing of repositories.

Archives

asked the Under-Secretary of State answering in respect of the Arts whether he will introduce legislation to prohibit the export of registered collections of archive documents to ensure that the archive heritage is not further depleted.

Archive documents are sufficiently protected by existing regulations, under which specific export licences are needed to export any documents, manuscripts or archives irrespective of value and over 50 years old, unless they are part of the personal papers of the exporter or spouse of the exporter. Applications for such licences are scrutinised by the relevant expert in the national collections and may be referred, if necessary, to the reviewing committee on the export of works of art, which advises my noble Friend the Minister for the Arts in cases where refusal of an export licence is suggested on grounds of national importance.

Employment

Employee Consultation

69.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what action Her Majesty's Government have taken recently on the fifth directive on company law relating to the disclosure of information to emplpoyees in multinational companies.

71.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what recent initiatives Her Majesty's Government have taken to advance the Vredeling proposals on employee participation in multinationals.

72.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what initiatives Her Majesty's Government have taken to advance the Vredeling directive on disclosure of information in multinational companies.

The Government are at present consulting interested parties on both the draft Vredeling directive on procedures for informing and consulting employees and the draft Fifth directive on the harmonisation of company law. A copy of the consultative document was placed in the Library on 9 November 1983.

Sex Equality

70.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what action Her Majesty's Government propose to take in the light of the European Court of Justice ruling of 8 November relating to non-compliance of the United Kingdom with Community legislation on sex equality.

The European Court has found that the Sex Discrimination Act 1975 does not fully comply with the EC's equal treatment directive. We are studying the terms of the judgment and will consider carefully what action is necessary to ensure that we meet our Treaty obligations.

European Social Fund

73.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what percentage of the allocation for article 4 of the European social fund went to the United Kingdom in the last year.

In 1982 the United Kingdom's share of article 4 of the European Social fund was 39·5 per cent.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what proportion of total expenditure under each of the major training and retraining projects supervised by his Department in 1982 was funded through the European social fund.

The major training and retraining programmes funded by the Department of Employment are those operated by the Manpower Services Commission. Those which attracted grants from the European Social Fund in 1982, together with the proportion of total estimated expenditure which this represents, are as follows:

SchemeSocial Fund grants as a proportion of total estimated expenditure in 1982* per cent.
Youth Opportunities Programme (including New Style Training Places)20
Community Industry11
Training Opportunities Programme11
Employment Rehabilitation37·5

Note:

* The percentage figures are approximate because the Manpower Services Commission and the Social Fund operate on different financial years.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what proportion of total expenditure in the first full year of the youth training scheme he estimates will come from the European social fund.

The European Commission has not yet announced its decision on social fund allocations for 1983 for the major youth training programmes, including the youth training scheme, but I shall write to my hon. Friend as soon as I am in a position to do so.

Youth Training Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the implementation of the youth training scheme in the metropolitan borough of Knowsley.

Some 1,340 youngsters had entered the youth training scheme in the Metropolitan borough of Knowsley by the end of November.

Microwave Telecommunications

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what representations his Department has had from the city of Manchester's planning officer with regard to the effects on public health of the extensive use of microwaves in telecommunications; what reply he is sending; and if he will make a statement.

I understand that the city of Manchester's planning officer has not made any such general representations. He has, however, consulted the Health and Safety Executive's local office about one proposed installation in Manchester, and has been given appropriate reassurance.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) what advice he is giving local planning authorities with regard to the effects on public health of the extensive use of microwaves in telecommunications; and if he will make a statement;(2) what advice he is giving local planning authorities with regard to the health effects for maintenance workers of the extensive use of microwaves in telecommunications; and if he will make a statement.

I do not see any need to issue general guidance to local planning authorities on these subjects. It is primarily for the Department of Trade and Industry, as the Department responsible for licensing microwave telecommunications, and the Health and Safety Executive, as the body responsible for enforcing the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974, to ensure that the health of general public and of maintenance workers is safeguarded. However, it is open to any local planning authority to seek advice from the Health and Safety Executive on the health and safety aspects of any proposal to install such telecommunications facilities in its area, and such advice will be forthcoming.

Mr Cripps (Payment)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will ensure that the statutory authorities now make a speedy decision as to whether the payment received by Mr. Cripps, Riverside Cottage, Staverton, Totnes, was a redundancy payment, or payment in lieu of notice, or a mixture of both.

I understand that the independent statutory authorities made a decision in this case on 2 December.

Energy

"Energy Management"

asked the Secretary of State for Energy how much it costs his Department per year to produce and distribute the newspaper Energy Management; and if he will arrange for it to be privatised.

Energy Management newspaper costs £136,000 to produce and distribute annually. The newspaper is an essential component in the energy efficiency office's programme of information and advice to industry. I would consider any proposal to privatise the newspaper, if it would continue to provide industry with the information and advice currently provided.

Domestic Fuel Supplies (Disconnections)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy (1) if he will hold discussions with the British Gas Corporation and the area electricity councils with a view to them encouraging their areas and boards to develop consistent policies on reconnection charges, long-term disconnection and the level of debt allowed before disconnection is threatened;(2) if he will hold discussions with the Gas and Electricity Boards on extending the code of practice covering disconnections to cover theft from prepayment meters, long-term disconnections and unreasonable arrangements for the repayment of debts.

I have nothing to add to the reply by my hon. Friend the Member for Pudsey (Mr. Shaw) on 5 December—[Vol. 50, c. 47]—to the right hon. Member on this subject.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will consider removing from the fuel industries the power to disconnect domestic fuel supplies and introducing a statutory code or other judicial control of disconnection.

The industries' code of practice is designed to enable their staff to exercise the maximum possible flexibitity and discretion in considering the individual circumstances of each case. Imposition of a statutory code would introduce an undesirable inflexibility into the industries' approach to the problem of disconnections.

Home Department

Vietnamese Refugees

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many of the 617 persons in Vietnam to whom visa promise letters were issued have been admitted to the United Kingdom for permanent settlement.

I regret that the information requested is not available centrally. Once a visa promise letter has been issued the arrangements for communicating the decision to the applicants in Vietnam and arranging arrival in the United Kingdom are normally handled by the voluntary refugee agencies and the United Nations High Commission for Refugees.

Remanded Prisoners

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will take steps to end the practice of prisoners on remand being sent from London to Solihull police station because there is insufficient accommodation in London.

Police Efficiency

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what criteria he uses to assess the efficiency of the police forces in England in general and of the Metropolitan police in particular.

My right hon. and learned Friend is advised by Her Majesty's inspectors of constabulary about the efficiency of police forces in England and Wales, except the Metropolitan police. The guidance which was issued last month to police authorities and chief officers of police about the effective and efficient use of resources indicates the approach to be used by Her Majesty's Inspectorate in the future.Under the Metropolitan Police Act 1829, the Commissioner is responsible, in the first instance, for the efficiency of the Metropolitan police; but the principles in the guidance apply to the Metropolitan police as to other forces.

Mentally Disturbed Persons

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many unsentenced people suffering from mental disorder within the meaning of the Mental Health Act 1959 were in custody at 31 March and 30 September respectively.

The available information shows that there were 159 such persons in custody on 30 March 1983 and 198 on 29 September 1983.

National Finance

Benefits

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the current annual revenue from the taxation of benefits paid to the unemployed; and what is his estimate of the revenue which will accrue in the 1984–5 tax year.

The yield in a full year at 1983–84 levels from taxing benefits paid to the unemployed is estimated at about £675 million. On the illustrative assumptions contained in the autumn statement and the report by the Government Actuary*, the yield in a full year at 1984–5 levels would be about £725 million.

* On the draft of the Social Security (Contributions, Re-rating) Order 1983 (Cmnd. 9092).

Business Start-Up Scheme (Private Hospital)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will name the one private hospital that has received relief under the businees start-up scheme; and if he will name the several other companies that have sought investments for which a claim for relief may be made when qualifying trade commences.

It is not the practice to disclose information about the affairs of particular taxpayers. Any public announcement is a matter for the companies concerned.

Business Expansion Scheme

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer why he included agricultural trading within the scope of the business expansion scheme; and if he will make a statement.

The business expansion scheme, and the business start-up scheme which it replaced, included qualifying farming companies in order to provide an incentive for new outside investment in new and expanding businesses. Tenant farmers, for example, may have no other readily available source of additional finance.I am keeping a close watch on the way the scheme is developing following the initial, encouraging response from investors and business men. It would however be premature to draw conclusions from the limited information so far available.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he is satisfied with the level of finance raised under the business expansion scheme going to companies requiring less than £100,000.

Claims for tax relief under the business expansion scheme cannot he made until after 1 January 1984, so it is too soon to have information about the amounts of finance raised and the distribution of investments among companies. But I have noted that a number of approved investment funds have indicated their willingness to consider companies requiring less than £100,000.

War Pensioners' Mobility Supplement

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether it is intended that the current tax allowances and reliefs linked to mobility allowance should be extended to war pensioners' mobility supplement.

I propose in next year's Finance Bill to provide for first year capital allowances to be available in respect of capital expenditure on cars leased to recipients of war pensioners' mobility supplement, and for such recipients to be exempt from vehicle excise duty. Since the scheme under which war pensioners' mobility supplement is payable operates from 21 November 1983, I intend that the provisions should apply to expenditure and vehicle excise duty incurred on and after that date. In addition, an order will be made shortly amending the Value Added Tax (Cars) Order 1980 to allow the present VAT relief on cars supplied to disabled persons in receipt of mobility allowance to apply also in the case of war pensioners who qualify for war pensioners' mobility supplement. This extended relief will be applied extra-statutorily from 21 November until the order comes into effect.

Self-Catering Facilities (Income)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will estimate the cost to the Exchequer of assessing income from the letting of self-catering facilities under schedule D case 1, rather than the present schedule D case 6; and if he will make a statement.

[pursuant to his reply, 5 December 1983, c. 26]: I assume that my hon. Friend is referring to self-catering holiday accommodation. It was announced on 6 July—[Vol. 45, c. 361]—that the Government intend to introduce legislation in the 1984 Finance Bill to extend certain capital gains tax reliefs and earned income treatment to proprietors of furnished holiday lettings. The cost of taxing this activity under schedule D case I might be of the order of £10 million a year.

Overseas Development

Southern African Development Co-Ordination Conference

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what British aid funds have been contributed or pledged, directly or indirectly, through the European Community or other international agencies, to the Southern African Development Co-ordination Conference.

The British Government have pledged £12 million to the Southern African Development Coordination Conference, of which just over £10 million has been committed to railway improvement in Mozambique and the rest is reserved for manpower development, port management and fisheries research. In January the European Community pledged about $2 million from the European development fund to help finance the SADCC secretariat, and we shall bear our rated share of this. I do not have details of pledges made by other international agencies to whose work we make general contributions from the aid programme.

Scotland

Northern Ireland

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is his latest estimate of the annual cost to the police and other law enforcement agencies in Scotland arising from the situation in Northern Ireland.

The information on which to base such an estimate is not held centrally or recorded separately; it could be provided by police and other sources only at disproportionate cost.

Barnacle Geese

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many barnacle geese were shot under licence in the winter of 1982–83 on Isley; and in how many instances was (a) the licence issued unused and (b) no return made by the licensee to the appropriate authority.

The number of barnacle geese shot under licence in the winter of 1982–83 on Islay was 956; in all instances (a) the licences issued were used and (b) returns were made by the licensee to the appropriate authority.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether it is his intention to issue licences to landowners on Islay to shoot barnacle geese; whether owners who are not occupiers are also eligible for such licences; and what advice has been given by the Nature Conservancy Council on the subject of licensing owners, who are not in occupation, to shoot barnacle geese.

Licences to shoot barnacle geese have been issued to landowners on Islay; owners who are not occupiers are eligible for such licences. The Nature Conservancy Council has advised against the issue of licences to landowners who are not occupiers.

Drug Offences (United States Personnel)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many convictions for drug offences in Scottish courts have involved United States military personnel over the past five years.

Information about court proceedings collected by my Department does not include the occupation of the person proceeded against.

Waiting Lists

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give figures to show (a) in Tayside region and (b) in Grampian region (i) the extent of the waiting lists for orthopaedic, ear, nose and throat and eye consultations and (ii) the extent of the waiting lists for surgery following such consultations; and, for each case, whether the lists have shortened or lengthened in the past two years.

Information about the number of persons awaiting outpatient consultations is not available centrally. The numbers on waiting lists for admission to hospital at 30 September each year are as follows:

Specialty
Orthopaedic surgeryEar, nose and throatOpthalmology
Tayside health board
19811,655777161
19822,498*370
19832,6131,269453
Grampian health board
19814411,7431,040
19827552,4851,518
19831,0672,2481,461
* Figures not available owing to the industrial dispute in the Health Service.

Dryburgh Abbey Hotel

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the selling price of the Dryburgh abbey hotel; who was the purchaser; and why the hotel was not put on the open market.

I am asking the chairman of the Scottish Transport Group to write to the right hon. Gentleman.

Geriatric Patients

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many hospital beds are available in each health board area for elderly people in need of specialist care and attention.

At 31 March 1982—the latest date for which statistics are available centrally — the following number of staffed beds were available in each health board area for elderly patients, including those with mental disability:

Numbers
Argyll and Clyde1,021
Ayrshire and Arran978
Borders409
Dumfries and Galloway510
Fife899
Forth Valley553
Grampian1,399
Greater Glasgow2,427
Highland382
Lanarkshire996
Lothian1,706
Orkney
Shetland87
Tayside1,470
Western Isles97
Total12,934

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many nurses are in post in each health board area for the nursing of geriatric patients.

Provisional numbers of trained nurses and nursing auxiliaries — whole-time equivalents —employed in geriatric hospitals and in long-stay units mainly for geriatric patients at 31 March 1983 are as follows:

Health boardsTrained nurses (WTE)Nursing auxiliaries (WTE)
Argyll and Clyde137·6261·0
Ayrshire and Arran166·9229·6
Borders61·198·8
Dumfries and Galloway56·935·8
Fife79·963·5
Forth Valley152·4252·4
Grampian213·3239·8
Greater Glasgow409·1651·5
Highland61·359·5
Lanarkshire286·8263·7
Lothian287·9318·2
Orkney
Shetland
Tayside264·8297·0
Western Isles38·914·8
Total2,216·92,785·6
Statistics of nurses in training at these hospitals are not available. Geriatric patients are nursed also in general and geriatric beds in general and teaching hospitals, but the number of nursing staff involved cannot be separately identified.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many doctors with specialist qualifications are in post in each health board area for the treatment of geriatric patients.

The numbers of consultants engaged wholly in geriatric medicine in Scotland as at 30 September 1982 are as follows. Geriatric patients are also treated by consultants in many other specialties.

Health boardConsultants in geriatric medicine
Argyll and Clyde4
Ayrshire and Arran3
Borders1
Dumfries and Galloway2
Fife2
Forth Valley3
Grampian4
Greater Glasgow18
Highland2
Lanark5
Lothian10
Orkney
Shetland
Tayside7
Western Isles1
Scotland62

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many elderly men and women are on the waiting list for treatment as geriatric patients in each area health board.

At 31 March 1982—the latest date for which statistics are available centrally—the number of elderly men and women on the waiting lists for treatment as geriatric patients in each area health board was as follows:

Health BoardGeriatric AssessmentGeriatric Long stay
Argyll and Clyde5183
Ayrshire and Arran
Borders2043
Dumfries and Galloway41

Health Board

Geriatric Assessment

Geriatric Long stay

Fife139
Forth Valley7729
Grampian203
Greater Glasgow2445
Highland627
Lanarkshire441
Lothian36927
Orkney
Shetland
Tayside8066
Western Isles28

It should be noted that the basis on which waiting lists are maintained varies between different health boards.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what additional measures he proposes to make available to area health boards for the provision of additional beds and nursing of geriatric patients.

The formula used for calculating the distribution of funding between health boards takes into account the different age and sex structures in each board's population. Boards which have a high proportion of elderly people in their area will therefore find this reflected in their allocation.

Old People's Homes

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many elderly people are presently accommodated in old people's homes in each regional council area of Scotland.

The information requested is as follows:

Regional CouncilNumber of Residents* aged over 65 years (Estimated at 31 March 1982)
Borders480
Central503
Dumfries and Galloway430
Fife763
Grampian1,449
Highland612
Lothian1,997
Strathclyde4,854
Tayside1,454
Orkney65
Shetland74
Western Isles131
TOTAL—SCOTLAND12,812
* In both local authority and voluntary homes.

Elderly Persons (Statistics)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in table form the number of men and women in Scotland between 65 and 75, and between 75 and 85 years of age; and how many are over that age.

The latest information available is given in table 1 of "Annual Estimates of the Population of Scotland 1982", a copy of which is in the Library.

District Nurses

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many district nurses are available in each health board area to visit elderly sick people in their own homes.

Provisional numbers of district nurses — whole-time equivalent — available in each health board area at 30 September 1983 are as follows:

Health BoardsDistrict Nurses (WTE)
Argyll and Clyde164·9
Ayrshire and Arran112·9
Borders19·0
Dumfries and Galloway31·9
Fife153·3
Forth Valley82·1
Grampian193·3
Greater Glasgow481·7
Highland62·8
Lanarkshire191·4
Lothian235·9
Orkney12·2
Shetland6·7
Tayside109·2
Western Isles
The figures exclude the community nurses (684.5 WTE) who combine midwifery, district nurse and health visitor duties.In 1982, 55·8 per cent. of visits by district nurses were to people aged 75 and over, and 79·6 per cent. to people aged 65 and over.

"Growing Older"

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is satisfied that the recommendations contained in the publication, "Growing Older", are being fully implemented by his Department and local health boards in Scotland.

I am satisfied that my Department and health boards in Scotland take fully into account the terms of the White Paper "Growing Older"—Cmnd. 8173—in the provision of services for the elderly.

Housing (Improvement Grant Applications)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland in how many Scottish local authority areas the total value for house improvement grant applications already lodged and approved for work to be completed in the 1984–85 financial year will exceed the available funds.

My hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State with responsibility for home affairs and the environment made it clear to the House on 25 October — [Vol. 47, c. 232] — that in determining authorities' allocations for the next financial year we shall fully cover all legally binding commitments entered into before 20 October. I shall inform housing authorities of their provisional allocations shortly.

Elderly Persons (Day Centres)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will provide local authorities responsible for day centres for the elderly with additional resources to maintain and expand the service.

The number of day centre places provided by local authorities has risen from 1,355 in 1979 to 2,212 in 1982. It is for local authorities to determine priorities, but the Government's planning figures for social work services will continue to take the needs of the elderly into account.

Universities (Geriatric Medicine Courses)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland which Scottish universities make special courses available to doctors who wish to specialise in the care and treatment of elderly people; and how many students are presently enrolled in such courses.

All Scottish medical schools include geriatric medicine in their curriculum and Edinburgh and Glasgow universities have chairs of geriatric medicine. Higher medical training for consultant appointment is the responsibility of the Joint Committee for Higher Medical Training which includes in its composition representatives of the four Royal Colleges of Physicians and of the Association of Clinical Professors of Medicine. At present there is an establishment of 15 posts in Scotland for senior registrars undergoing higher medical training in geriatric medicine.

Wales

A5 (Traffic Statistics)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will publish a table showing the volume of traffic in each direction on the A5 trunk road between Britannia bridge and Holyhead, at appropriate traffic census points which have been studied during the past few years.

Community Programme (Dyfed)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many Manpower Services Commission schemes in the county of Dyfed have not materialised over the past month; why they have been abandoned; and how many individuals have been affected by the abandonment of such schemes.

I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that none of its schemes in Dyfed has been abandoned. However, as my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Employment indicated in his statement of 16 November—[Vol. 48, c. 481–82]—places on the community programme have been filled faster than budgeted and the Manpower Services Commission will be carefully controlling the filling of places for the remainder of this financial year. This has meant that in Dyfed 11 community programme schemes approved before November 1983 and providing 68 places are being deferred until the position is reviewed in the new year.

Forestry Commission

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many acres will be planted with trees by the Forestry Commission in Wales during 1984 and 1985; and if he will make a statement.

The new planting and restocking proposed by the Forestry Commission is as follows:

Year endingNew plantingRestockingTotal
31 Marchhectaresacreshectaresacreshectaresacres
1985200(494)1,500(3,707)1,700(4,201)
1986260(642)1,470(3,632)1,730(4,274)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many people are employed by the Forestry Commission in Wales; what were the corresponding figures for the last 20 years; and if he will make a statement.

At the end of September 1983, the number of employees was 1,203. The corresponding figure in 1960 was 3,410; in 1970, 1,809; and in 1980, 1,350.

Development Board For Rural Wales

asked the Secretary of State for Wales when he last met the chairman of the Development Board for Rural Wales; what subjects were discussed; and if he will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend and I last met the chairman of the Development Board for Rural Wales on 5 October when, together with the chairmen of other Welsh public bodies, we considered a wide range of matters affecting their responsibilities for development within Wales.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Iraq

7.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make representations to the Iraqi Government about the violation of human rights in Iraq described in the special Amnesty International report recently published; and if he will make a statement.

The Government of Iraq can be in no doubt of our concern at violations of human rights. We deplore such violations wherever they may occur, and have made that clear at the United Nations and other international forums.

42.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make representations to the Government of Iraq concerning the danger to British intersts of an Iraqi attack on Iranian oil installations; and if he will make a statement.

We are neutral in the war between Iran and Iraq and have urged both sides to show restraint and settle their differences peacefully. We would deplore any action that might lead to an escalation of the conflict. The safety of British subjects and of our other interests in areas of actual or potential hostilities is kept under constant review.

Nicaragua

13.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement about the relations between the United Kingdom and Nicaragua.

14.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will hold discussions with the Foreign Minister of Nicaragua.

My right hon. and learned Friend is willing to meet representatives of the Government of Nicaragua when the need arises.

22.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what recent communications he has received from British residents in Nicaragua.

My right hon. and learned Friend has received no recent communications from British residents in Nicaragua.

25.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will publish the plans made for the evacuation of British citizens from Nicaragua by the United States embassy in Managua in the event of an emergency.

No. Contingency plans for evacuation of United Kingdom nationals include a number of options. This is normal practice and it would not be in the interests of those concerned to publish the details.

48.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on the safety of British citizens in Nicaragua.

We have no reason to believe that the safety of United Kingdom nationals in Nicaragua is threatened at present. But we have contingency plans for safeguarding British citizens in all Central American countries should circumstances put them at risk.

Human Rights

15.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if Her Majesty's Government will ratify protocol No. 4 of the European convention for the protection of human rights and fundamental freedoms.

Cyprus

16.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what new initiatives he is undertaking to help resolve the situation which has arisen in Cyprus.

We have, as envisaged by the 1960 treaty of guarantee, proposed consultations together with the other guarantor powers. We have tabled a draft resolution before the United Nations Security Council which was subsequently adopted by an overwhelming majority. We remain in close consultation with interested Governments and with the United Nations Secretary General. We have made clear that we shall support his efforts and stand ready to help him to pursue his mission of good offices to which the United Nations Security Council resolution refers.

21.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement as to the present position in Cyprus.

29.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he will make a statement on Her Majesty's Government's attitude to the situation in Cyprus.

In my statement to the House of 15 November—[Vol. 48, c. 725–30]—I made clear that we deplore the recent purported declaration of independence by the Turkish Cypriot community. The United Nations Security Council resolution 541, which we fully support, called on all concerned not to do anything to exacerbate the situation. We attach great importance to this. In accordance with his mandate in this resolution, the United Nations Secretary General is pursuing his mission of good offices. We support his efforts to stand ready to help him. We remain ready to hold the consultations we have proposed between the guarantor powers.

Diplomatic Immunity

17.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if Her Majesty's Government will seek to renegotiate the relevant treaties relating to diplomatic immunity so that all diplomats may no longer avoid prosecution for infringements of motoring legislation, such as illegal parking.

This would represent a significant departure from established international law and practice. There is no realistic prospect of securing general agreement to it.

Managua

18.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if Her Majesty's Government will open an embassy in Managua.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to the hon. Member for Walsall, North (Mr. Winnick) on 9 November.—[Vol. 48, c. 167.]

Turkey

19.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what approaches he has made to the new Turkish Government concerning the mass trials of trade unionists in the country.

We have made no approaches to the Turkish authorities on this subject since the elections on 6 November. Following these elections a new Government are in the process of being formed.

27.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he will make a statement on the United Kingdom's relations with Turkey.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to him and the hon. Member for Birmingham, Ladywood (Ms. Short) on 9 November.—[Vol. 48, c. 164.]

45.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he has any plans to meet the Turkish Foreign Minister.

A new Turkish Government are in the process of assuming office. My right hon. and learned Friend has no immediate plans to meet the new Turkish Foreign Minister, but we would expect that an occasion to do so would arise during forthcoming international meetings.

Grenada

20.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on the most recent consultations he has held with the United States Government on the subject of Grenada.

We are in close touch with the United States Government at all levels on matters of mutual interest, including Grenada.

43.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what communication he has had with the chairman of the Advisory Council in Grenada.

The British high commissioner at Bridgetown saw the acting chairman of the Advisory Council during a visit to Grenada on 28 November.

Gibraltar

23.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what further progress has been made in negotiations with the Spanish Government on the lifting of restrictions on the dependent territory of Gibraltar.

Since my right hon. and learned Friend's meeting with the Spanish Foreign Minister, Sr Moran, in New York on 26 September, there have been contacts with the Spanish Government through diplomatic channels on various matters concerning Gibraltar. We expect to review these with Sr Moran at the North Atlantic Council meeting in Brussels tomorrow.

The Lebanon

24.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what steps he is taking, both on his own initiative and in conjuction with his European colleagues, to ensure that Syrian forces leave the Lebanon as part of the withdrawal of all foreign forces from that country.

31.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on Syrian involvement in the Lebanon.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he has received any indications that the Government of Syria may be willing to withdraw their armed forces from Lebanon.

40.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what steps he is taking in conjunction with his European colleagues to ensure that Syrian forces leave the Lebanon as part of withdrawal of all foreign forces; and if he will make a statement.

51.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what indications he has received since the visit of the Minister of State to the middle east that Syria is prepared to withdraw all her forces from the Lebanon if Israel does likewise.

We have repeatedly stressed to the Syrian Government that Syrian as well as Palestinian and Israeli forces should be withdrawn from Lebanon as soon as possible, most recently when I visited Damascus last week. Our partners in the Ten take the same view.

Uganda

26.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on the relations between the United Kingdom and Uganda.

We have good relations with Uganda, and attach importance to them. The hon. Otema Allimadi, the Ugandan Prime Minister, who is here on an official visit, had discussions with me this morning, in the course of which I raised with him the proposed implementation of the Expropriated Properties Act and the problems faced by displaced persons in Uganda.On other matters, our bilateral aid programme to Uganda for the year 1983–84 is £6 million, divided between a number of projects designed to help the Uganda Government in their difficult task of economic reconstruction. We also contribute substantially to the Commonwealth military training team in Uganda.

Union Of Soviet Socialist Republics

28.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if Her Majesty's Government will make representations to the Government of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics about their policy of giving military aid to Syria and their role in the middle east conflict.

We shall continue to express our concerns about the situation in the middle east during political consultations with the Soviet Union. My hon. Friend the Member for Shoreham (Mr. Luce) also discussed the role of the Soviet Union in the middle east during his talks in Damascus on 3 and 4 December.

Afghanistan

30.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs when he next intends to discuss Afghanistan with the Soviet ambassador.

My right hon. and learned Friend has at present no plans to discuss Afghanistan with the Soviet ambassador. As I explained to my hon. Friend on 9 November, the Soviet Union can be in no doubt about our views on Afghanistan. The adoption of a fifth United Nations resolution on 23 November calling for the immediate withdrawal of foreign troops from Afghanistan shows that these views are shared by the vast majority of the international community.

Law Of The Sea

33.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on the nature and purpose of Her Majesty's Government's continued association with the third United Nations convention on the law of the sea.

Although some provisions of the convention are helpful, those relating to deep seabed mining are not acceptable to us. In order to seek satisfactory improvements in the seabed mining regime, we are participating in the preparatory commission set up to prepare for implementation of parts of the convention.

Central America

34.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what recent consultations he has had with the United States authorities concerning events in Central America.

We are in close and constant touch with the United States Government through out respective embassies. In addition, my right hon. and noble Friend the Minister of State, Foreign and Commonwealth Office discussed Central America with representatives of United States Administration in Washington on 18 November.

Argentina

35.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what discussions he has held during the past few weeks into the establishment of normal diplomatic relations with Argentina.

None. We have welcomed the restoration of democracy in Argentina, and expressed the hope that when they assume office on 10 December, the new Argentine Government will reciprocate our willingness to restore normal bilateral relations.

United Nations (Financial Support)

36.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what consultations have taken place with the United States to co-ordinate British and Commonwealth support for United States policy within the various organisations of the United Nations from which a pro rata deduction of that country's contributions has been made to ensure that Western funds are not used to finance terrorist organisations.

None. Our long-standing policy, taking into account legal considerations, has been to meet in full our assessed contribution to the United Nations. Where we disagree with the allocation of funds, we say so and seek to have the policy changed. We have made abundantly clear our views on terrorism.

Middle East

37.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he is contemplating any new initiative to bring about a peaceful settlement in the middle east.

The parties themselves must take the Lead in the search for a settlement. President Reagan's proposals of 1 September 1982 offer a realistic starting point for negotiations. We shall continue to play an active role in urging the parties to settle their differences through negotiations.

Pakistan

38.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on the United Kingdom's relationship with Pakistan.

Ussr (Human Rights)

39.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether there has been an improvement in the Soviet Government's human rights record since the conclusion of the Helsinki review conference in Madrid in September.

There is no evidence of any change in the Soviet Government's human rights record since the conclusion of the Madrid conference.

46.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he will seek confirmation from the Government of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics that they are implementing the agreement reached at the conference for security and cooperation in Europe review meeting in Madrid with regard to the human contacts section of the Helsinki final act.

We take frequent opportunities to remind the Soviet authorities of the additional commitments undertaken in the human contacts field in the Madrid concluding document. We shall continue, with our partners and allies, to follow closely the implementation of these commitments by the Soviet Union.

Iran-Iraq War

41.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether Her Majesty's Government are considering any new initiatives to attempt to end the war between Iran and Iraq; and if he will make a statement.

We voted for United Nations Security Council resolution 540 which calls upon the belligerents to cease immediately all hostilities in the region of the Gulf. We hope both Iran and Iraq will observe the terms of the resolution, and in particular make use of the Secretary-General's good offices in another attempt to secure a negotiated end to the war.

Contadora States

44.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs when he last met representatives of the Contadora group of states.

My right hon. and noble Friend the Minister of State, Foreign and Commonwealth Office discussed the Contadora peace intitiative with President Espriella and other representatives of the Panamanian Government during her visit to Panama on 14 to 15 November.

Syria

47.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if, when the Minister of State met his Syrian counterpart, he expressed the concern of Her Majesty's Government at the abrogation of human rights in that country as highlighted by the special Amnesty International report just published.

I had wide-ranging discussions during my recent visit to Syria. We are concerned about breaches of human rights wherever they occur. We make our views clear to the Governments concerned whenever and wherever useful opportunities occur. These include meetings of the United Nations Human Rights Commissions at which Syria is an observer. But the details of these exchanges must remain confidential.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if, when the Minister of State meets the President or Foreign Minister of Syria, he will raise the subject of the mistreatment of Syrian Jews, who are refused permission to emigrate and subjected to restrictions limiting their freedom.

The Syrian Government are well aware of our concern over breaches of human rights wherever they occur and whoever they may involve. We make our views clear to Governments concerned on appropriate occasions and in appropriate forums, including the United Nations Human Rights Commission at which Syria is an observer.

Oil Supplies (Straits Of Hormuz)

49.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he will ensure that measures are being concerted with friendly powers to meet any threat to oil supplies and the Straits of Hormuz arising from the war between Iraq and Iran; and what efforts are being made to limit or end those hostilities.

We are constantly in touch with friendly states on a wide variety of issues, including recent developments in the Gulf. We attach importance to the freedom of navigation in the Gulf, including passage through the Straits of Hormuz. We hope both participants in the war will continue to show restraint and observe the terms of United Nations Security Council resolution 540.

52.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what steps he has taken to safeguard British interests, including the protection of British shipping, and the continuation of oil supplies in the event of the closure of the Straits of Hormuz.

The implications for British interests of developments in the war between Iran and Iraq are kept under constant review. We are in regular contact with the General Council of British Shipping and shipping companies with particular interests in the area. We continue to maintain a patrol of two warships available, if needed, to come to the assistance of British shipping in the Gulf.We are committed members of the International Energy Agency. In the event of a significant shortfall in supplies to IEA countries, we should continue to look to collective action by IEA members, including, where appropriate, the implementation of the emergency oil sharing scheme, supplemented by the use of reserve stocks.

Foreign Diplomats (Protection)

5.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, after the attempted assassination of the Jordanian ambassadors by the Abu Nidal group, what steps are being taken with his European colleagues for the protection of foreign diplomats.

There are regular consultations within the Ten on the terrorist threat to foreign diplomats. But it is the responsibility of the authorities in each country to determine and provide the level of protection needed in each case. The Royalty and Diplomatic Protection Department and the Special Branch of the Metropolitan police are responsible for the protection of all foreign diplomats. Protection is kept under constant review and is maintained at a level commensurate with the degree of threat.

Hong Kong

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what proposals the Hong Kong Government are considering to cater for the longterm transport needs of the north-west New Territories in Hong Kong.

On 22 November the Hong Kong Government invited the Kowloon-Canton Railway Corporaton to consider whether it wishes to be owner-operator of a light rail transit system to serve the northwest New Territories. The corporation will shortly commence discussion with six international consortia which had previously made proposals to the Government for constructing the project.

Stockholm Conference

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs (1) whether, in view of the lack of progress over a long period at the Vienna talks, new proposals for a multi-balanced force reduction agreement on non-nuclear arms reductions will be considered at the Stockholm conference;(2) what proposals in relation to confidence building, security and disarmament in Europe the Government are tabling at the Stockholm conference;(3) what are the main items proposed to be discussed at the Stockholm conference agreed at the Madrid conference and opening on 17 January 1984.

The Stockholm conference, in accordance with the mandate agreed at the Madrid CSCE follow-up meeting, will discuss confidence and security building measures which must be militarily significant, politically binding, verifiable and cover the whole of Europe. In consultation with our allies we will put forward proposals designed to increase confidence and reduce the danger of surprise attack through greater openness about normal military patterns of behaviour. It lies with a future CSCE review meeting, the next of which begins in Vienna in November 1986, to decide whether to extend the mandate to cover arms reductions. Meanwhile, we remain committed to negotiating lower, equal levels of forces in the MBFR talks in Vienna.

El Salvador

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if, in view of the deteriorating situation of human rights in El Salvador and the resolution of the European Parliament on 17 November, Her Majesty's Government will vote in favour of the resolution at the United Nations General Assembly against human rights violations in El Salvador; and if he will make a statement.

Our voting intentions depend on the final text of the resolution, which is liable to change at the last minute. However, we have frequently made clear, at the United Nations and elsewhere, our condemnation of human rights abuses in El Salvador by whomsoever committed.

Disarmament Conference

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what steps are being taken to set up a disarmament conference in western Europe in furtherance of the proposal agreed in Madrid.

As agreed at Madrid, the conference on confidence and security building measures and disarmament in Europe will open in Stockholm on 17 January 1984. The first stage is confined to confidence and security building measures. With our allies, we are currently preparing a number of measures to table at the conference.

European Community

Community Budget

60.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what progress has been made towards a permanent reform of the financing of the Community budget.

61.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on the outcome of the Athens summit meeting of the European Council in connection with reform of the Community budget.

62.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on recent discussions in the European Community on the financial requirements of the Community in 1984.

The Community failed at Athens to come to grips with this and other fundamental issues. We shall continue our efforts to ensure that it does so.

Court Of Auditors

63.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs when he expects to receive the report of the European Communities Court of Auditors for 1982.

I understand that the President of the Court of Auditors has now submitted copies of the report to the Council and the Parliament and that it will be published in the Official Journal by the end of the year. Copies will be deposited in the House and an explanatory memorandum will be sent to the Scrutiny Committee.

Foreign Policy

64.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs when he next expects to meet his European counterparts to discuss foreign policy.

The next formal meeting of the Foreign Ministers of the Ten in political co-operation is likely to be on 27 February 1984, though there is a possibility that Ministers may meet earlier. When necessary, Foreign Ministers also consult informally on matters of foreign policy in the margins of other meetings in the Community.

Rebates

65.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he will insist that in future European Community rebates are effected by a reduction in future contributions rather than by the allocation of additional funds for the implementation of European Community policies within the United Kingdom.

My hon. Friend's point is one which we have consistently urged on our partners. We shall continue to do so.

Community Expenditure

65.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what proposals Her Majesty's Government have for redistributing the burden of Community expenditure from agricultural to regional and social programmes.

The Government believe that effective control should be exercised on all categories of Community expenditure particularly on agriculture. If agricultural spending could be brought under control more money would be available for the regional and social programmes and for new Community policies.

Community Reform

67.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on the progress made in discussions to secure reforms in the Common Market.

The United Kingdom continues to press for the creation of a genuine Common Market in goods and services. We have emphasised the need to abolish non-tariff barriers to simplify customs formalities, to liberalise transport services and to promote a genuinely liberal regime for non-life insurance. Work on these issues, many of which require no additional expenditure, will continue in the relevant specialist Councils.

Social Services

Perinatal Mortality

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what has been the perinatal mortality rate in Grimsby over the last five years; and what has been the national average.

The information requested is shown in the following table:

Perinatal mortality rates* for Great Grimsby CD and England and Wales
1978 to 1982
Great Grimsby CDEngland and Wales
197815·415·5
197915·414·7
198013·313·3
198112·611·8
198215·811·3
* Rates per 1,000 total births.

The rates for county districts can vary from year to year owing to the small numbers of events occurring each year.

First Stage Delivery Rooms

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many first stage delivery rooms are currently available at Grimsby and Cleethorpes.

On 31 December 1982, the latest date for which information is available centrally, there were four beds in combined first and second stage delivery rooms at the Grimsby maternity hospital and two such beds at the Croft Baker maternity home in Cleethorpes. Grimsby health authority had no first stage labour rooms.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the target for the number of first stage delivery rooms per 1,000 people.

Two systems of labour ward care are in common use: combined first and second stage rooms from which the mother is moved for delivery to a delivery room. The Department has no target number for first stage rooms.

Broadmoor Hospital (Visits)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services why the director and members of the Matthew trust have been prohibited from visiting patients in Broadmoor hospital.

The Matthew trust does not have the confidence and trust of the hospital management team, for reasons which have been fully explained to the trust.

Cigarette Advertising

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if, in view of the fall in cigarette consumption in Norway following the banning in that country of all cigarette advertising except at the point of sale, he will reconsider his decision not to introduce legislation to ban such advertising.

The Norwegian tobacco law was enacted in 1975 and the following table does not support the hon. Member's premise:

Proportions of regular smokers in adult population
Per cent.
NorwayUnited Kingdom
MaleFemaleMaleFemale
197453325141
197649324638
197845314537
198042304237
198240343833

Sources:

Norway—Norwegian National Council on Smoking and Health. United Kingdom—OPCS Monitor GHS 83/3.

Cigarettes

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) pursuant to the answer to the hon. Member for Wolverhampton, North-East on 3 November concerning a cigarette filter, the name of which was supplied to him, what tests the Government Chemist has carried out on this filter; and what conclusions he has reached in his consideration of the standard procedure for testing cigarettes;(2) if he will take steps to obtain information about recent court cases in the United States of America concerning the validity of current methods used both in the United States and the United Kingdom for determining the tar content of cigarettes with a view to making changes in his methods of testing cigarettes;(3) if he is satisfied that the current methods for determining the tar yields of cigarettes used by the Government Chemist are accurate enough;(4) on what scientific research is the tar, nicotine and carbon monoxide content of cigarettes assessed by the Laboratory of the Government Chemist;(5) if he is satisfied that the methods of assessing tar yields of cigarettes used by the Government Chemist fully reflect the habits of smokers.

In analysing the tar, carbon monoxide and nicotine yields of cigarettes, the laboratory of the Government chemist uses the methods recommended by the International Organisation for Standardisation Technical Committee 126 (Tobacco and Tobacco Products). This procedure can only assess smoke generation, that is the yield of smoke presented to the smoker's mouth, and we are satisfied that it accomplishes this accurately. The resultant data are regularly published by the Department in the form of cigarette brand tables, as recommended by the Royal College of Physicians in 1971. The implications for the testing procedure of the progressive modification of cigarettes in order further to reduce their noxious yields are kept under review by the Independent Scientific Committee on Smoking and Health. In its third report published on 14 October 1983, the Independent Scientific Committee indicated in paragraph 33 its intention to obtain further information about the extent to which a smoker "compensates" when he or she changes to a lower tar-nicotine product. I expect the committee to advise in its fourth report or earlier if necessary, on the results of its further enquiries on this matter. In discharging its remit, the committee takes account of all relevant material. This will include the results of recent court cases in the United States of America, which I understand led to the judgement that the American system, which is essentially identical to the United Kingdom system, provides legitimate comparative information to smokers who wish to reduce the health hazards inherent in cigarette smoking. I will look to the independent committee for specific advice in the event that the cigarette filter referred to by the hon. Member, or any similar filter, should come into use in the United Kingdom.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will take steps to warn smokers that switching to low tar cigarettes may result in an increase in the number of cigarettes smoked.

There is insufficient evidence at present to support the view that smokers who switch to low tar cigarettes smoke more. The independent scientific committee on smoking and health has therefore called for further research into this matter.

Overseas Doctors

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what proposals he has for a sponsorship scheme for overseas doctors; which medical organisations have indicated that they will support such doctors; and if he will make a statement.

We welcome the general principle of a sponsorship scheme which would improve the training arrangements for overseas doctors. I understand that an outline scheme received general support from the medical profession which is now considering its detailed application. We will consider carefully the details of the scheme when they are put to us.

Disabled People

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, further to the Secretary of State's answer to the hon. Member for Exeter on 30 June, Official Report, c. 137–8, if he will now indicate (a) whether the social fund advisory committee agreed to fund the projects within the district network on the social integration of disabled people in Lambeth and in Berkshire, (b) the sums involved, (c) who are the promoters and what are the precise locations of the projects, (d) what is the duration of the projects, (e) how many people are involved and (f) what is the type of skill training that will be taught.

At its meeting on 18 July the social fund advisory committee recommended acceptance of proposals put forward for district projects on disability in Lambeth and Berkshire to form part of the European network of district projects under the EC's programme on the social integration of disabled people. In October the European commission issued its decision accepting that recommendation. The projects are promoted by the London borough of Lambeth's directorate of social services and by Berkshire county council.The projects are expected to last for four years, but the Commission's decision covers the first three years. The social fund has allocated £420,601 for the Lambeth project over that period, and £108,137 for that in Berkshire. This represents 50 per cent. of the estimated total cost to 30 September 1986. The matching 50 per cent. is to be found by the projects themselves. In Lambeth's case that includes a grant of £263,491 from the Manpower Services Commission towards a work introduction centre which forms part of its project.The common aim of the network of projects is to see how an innovative approach to the co-ordination of a range of services in a locality might promote the social and economic integration of disabled people. The United Kingdom projects should therefore have an impact on the lives of a great many disabled people in the areas they cover—the whole of the borough of Lambeth and three district council areas in the western part of Berkshire. All the projects in the European Community network are essentially experimental in nature, and the experience gained from them could be of wider application. The projects are also to contain a core training activity in the employment field. According to the project applications, this will involve 96 people in Lambeth and 54 in Berkshire during the grant period. In Lambeth, the core training activity will be based at its work introduction centre and the skills taught will vary according to individual assessed needs. In Berkshire, the activity will be based at the information technology centre in Reading and skill training will concentrate on introduction to, and use of, computer technology.The Government welcome the European Commission's decision, and will take a close interest in the district projects—particularly the lessons to be learnt from them for the United Kingdom. To that end the Department has decided to set up a small national steering group with representation from health and local authorities, the voluntary sector, interested Government Departments, the two United Kingdom projects and their evaluator.

Personal Data

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what are the terms of the instructions under which personal data held by his Department may be disclosed to the police.

Instructions provide that information may be disclosed on request by the police in a case which involves serious crime. The information, which is given in confidence and in respect of specific named individuals only, is usually given orally. The instructions make it clear that information about a person's medical condition is not disclosed to the police. The Department will also provide information, including the making of a written statement, to the police where they are investigating alleged offences in which the Department has an interest.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will list the personal data held on each person who has a national insurance number, on his Department's general index at Newcastle;(2) whether his Department can, using the general index at Newcastle, trace the national insurance number of a person for whom

(a) the name and date of birth only and (b) the name and address only are given;

(3) whether there is on-line access to his Department's general index from any location outside his Department's certified offices;

(4) whether on-line access to his Department's general index is available to any person other than the staff in his Department;

(5) how many computer terminals have on-line access to his Department's general index; and how many and what ranks of staff are authorised to operate these terminals;

(6) on how many persons personal data are held in his Department's general index;

(7) what is the typical response time for an inquiry made of his Department's general index from an on-line terminal;

(8) how many inquiries have been made of his Department's general index since the computerised system became operational;

(9) how many and what ranks of his Department's staff are authorised to make inquiries of his Department's general index;

Calendar Year

1979

1980

1981

1982

1983

Number of prescription items dispensed (million)3·6763·7233·7463·887

*

Number on general practitioners' lists583,000594,000598,000603,000

*

(10) whether his Department's staff in local offices are authorised to make inquiries of his Department's general index.

The DHSS computerised general index at Newcastle holds very brief personal details of each holder of a national insurance number, as follows:

  • Surname
  • First and second forenames
  • Address
  • Date of birth
  • Sex
Using the general index it is possible to trace records matching a given name and date of birth, or a given name and address. About 53 million records are held on the general index. The corresponding number of people is, of course, less because some have more than one record owing to changes in name—for example, on marriage. It typically takes about five seconds for the system to respond to an inquiry.The general index is primarily for the use of DHSS staff at the Newcastle central office. However, there is currently an experiment being conducted whereby on-line access to the general index is available to five offices of the Department of Employment. The number of terminals with on-line access to the index is: 135 in Newcastle central office, including Hebburn and Alfred Wilson house: and five in offices of the Department of Employment for the duration of the experiment.About 600 DHSS staff and 30 Department of Employment staff are authorised to use these on-line terminals. Each operator has access only to specific terminals. Normally tracing is carried out by clerical staff, but a small number of officers in grades up to principal are authorised to access the index. Staff in DHSS local offices are authorised to make use of the tracing facility of the index for the purposes of social security business.Some 15 million inquiries have been made of the index since it came into operation.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether a decision has yet been made to proceed with the development of a departmental central index, as described in the Green Paper, "Social Security Operational Strategy".

Ipswich (Statistics)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many National Health Service prescriptions have been dispensed within the Ipswich health district in each year since 1979; and how this is related to the number of patients for which the district is responsible.

The information available relates to the Suffolk family practitioner committee, which covers the areas of both east Suffolk and west Suffolk health authorities.

* Not available.

Notes:

1. There was a small boundary realignment between Suffolk and Norfolk FPCs in April 1982; this will not have any significant effect on the figures.

2. "Number of prescription items dispensed" is the number dispensed by community pharmacists and drug tariff dispensing doctors.

3. "Number on general practitioners' lists" is the sum of those on general practitioners' prescribing and dispensing lists.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what revenue from National Health Service prescriptions has accrued within the Ipswich health district in each financial year since 1979; and what percentage this represents of the aggregate cost of these prescriptions.

Col. 1 Financial YearCol. 2 Total Cost of FPS Prescription Items Dispensed by Pharmacists (£ million)Col. 3 Income from Charges (£ million)Col. 4 Col. 3 as a percentage of Col. 2
1978–796·8570·2043·0
1979–807·7620·3474·5
1980–819·5130·6236·5
1981–8210·9600·7346·7
1982–8312·5980·9137·2

Notes:

1. There was a small boundary realignment between Suffolk and Norfolk FPCs in April 1982; this will not have any significant effect on the figures.

2. Total cost of FPS prescription items dispensed by pharmacists includes fees and allowances payable for dispensing. It excludes the cost of prescription items dispensed by dispensing doctors.

3. Income from charges is the charge income received by pharmacists in respect of FPS prescriptions. It excludes income from prescription charges collected by dispensing doctors and income from pre-payment certificates.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many dental patients have been treated by dentists within the Ipswich health district since 1979; and how this is related to the number of patients eligible for treatment within the district during this period.

The information requested is not available. While we have data on the number of courses of treatment, there is no information on the number of patients involved.

Calendar Year19791980198119821983
Number of 6-monthly certificates issued646197
Number of 4-monthly certificates issued6481,3081,699(1,146)
Number of annual certificates issued4,5146,2524,7405,674(3,028)

Notes: 1. There was a small boundary realignment between Suffolk and Norfolk FPCs in April 1982; this will not have had any significant effect on the figures.

2. On 1 May 1980, 4-monthly certificates replaced 6-monthly ones.

3. 1983 figures to 30 June 1983 only.

Sexually Transmitted Diseases

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the annual figures of notified sexually transmitted diseases as suffered by those between the ages of 10 and 19 years for the past 15 years.

Sexually transmitted diseases are not notifiable. The only information available centrally in relation to young people under the age of 20 relates to the new cases of primary and secondary syphillis and post-pubertal gonorrhoea treated in National Health Service clinics for sexually transmitted diseases. This is as follows:

The available information relates to the Suffolk family practitioner committee, which covers the areas of east Suffolk and west Suffolk health authorities.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many six-monthly and yearly season tickets for National Health Service prescriptions have been issued in the Ipswich health district since 1979.

The information available relates to the Suffolk family practitioner committee, which covers the areas of east Suffolk and west Suffolk health authorities.

New cases aged under 20 years treated in National Health Service clinics for sexually transmitted diseases in England
YearPrimary and secondary syphillisPost-pubertal gonorrhoea
19681176,727
19691458,467
1970939,685
197111810,510
197211810,524
197312911,908
197414811,775
197513612,307
197615912,025
197718812,377
197812511,234
YearPrimary and secondary syphillisPost-pubertal gonorrhoea
197912510,700
198012210,903
198111710,627
1982*85*10,879
* Provisional figures.

Benefit Appeals

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the current average length of time taken for the completion of (a) appeals to supplementary benefit appeals tribunals and (b) appeals to supplementary benefit commissioners.

In the three months ending 30 June 1983 the average time from lodgement of an appeal to the date of hearing by a supplementary benefit appeal tribunal was 8·3 weeks. The time taken to determine an appeal to a social security commissioner varies considerably and depends on a number of factors, some outside the commissioner's control. No average figures are available.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will take steps to shorten the period of waiting that claimants undergo in Knowsley to have appeals heard against refusal of benefits.

Appeals to supplementary benefit appeal tribunals in Knowsley are subject to delay, but the Department has taken steps to remedy this. The recruiting campaign for members has been intensified, the number of tribunal sittings has been increased, and some appeals have been transferred to tribunals which are less heavily loaded.

Merseyside (Hospital Admissions)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many persons are awaiting admission for each specialty for each hospital on Merseyside; and how many in each case are urgent cases.

The number of persons awaiting admission to each specialty at each of the hospitals in the Liverpool, St. Helen's and Knowsley, North Sefton, South Sefton and Wirral district health authorities is as follows. Information on the numbers of urgent cases at individual hospitals is not available centrally.

Number of persons on inpatient waiting lists on 31 December 1982 District Health Authority and Hospital and Specialty
Total cases
LIVERPOOL DHA
Saint Pauls Eye Hospital, Liverpool
Ophthalmology275
Total275
Women's Hospital, Liverpool
Gynaecology651
Total651
Royal Liverpool Hospital
General Surgery1,158
ENT380
Trau and Orth1,070
Total cases
Urology145
Plastic Surgery44
Oral Surgery173
Gynaecology394
Mental Illness2
Pathology22
Total3,388
Broadgreen Hospital, Liverpool
Cardiology351
General Surgery749
Trau and Orth109
Ophthalmology29
Urology106
Thoracic Surgery29
Oral Surgery290
Cardiac Surgery66
Total1,729
Newsham General Hospital, Liverpool
Dermatology3
Geriatrics29
Trau and Orth498
Total530
Mill Road Maternity Hospital, Liverpool
Gynaecology236
Total236
Alder Hey Children's Hospital, Liverpool
ENT471
Trau and Orth77
Ophthalmology133
Urology58
Plastic Surgery168
Oral Surgery155
Psychiatry Children9
Paediatric Surgery277
Total1,348
Royal Liverpool Children's Hospital, Myrtle Street, Liverpool
Cardiology106
Trau and Orth12
Oral Surgery6
Paediatric Surgery50
Total174
Royal Liverpool Children's Hospital, Heswall, Liverpool
Plastic Surgery109
Oral Surgery19
Orthodontics54
Psychiatry Children18
Total200
ST. HELENS AND KNOWSLEY DHA
Whiston Hospital, Prescot
General Surgery253
ENT418
Trau and Orth516
Plastic Surgery972
Gynaecology676
Total2,835
St. Helens Hospital
General Surgery188
Trau and Orth123
Ophthalmology184
Total495
Total cases
NORTH SEFTON DHA
Southport General Infirmary
General Surgery349
Ophthalmology128
Gynaecology389
Total866
Southport Promenade Hospital
Geriatrics23
ENT289
Trau and Orth284
Spinal Injuries Unit23
Total619
Greaves Hall Hospital, Southport
Mental Handicap3
Psychogeriatric4
Total7
SOUTH SEFTON DHA
Walton Hospital, Liverpool
Neurology78
General Surgery1,253
ENT1,935
Trau and Orth780
Ophthalmology39
Urology207
Oral Surgery463
Neurosurgery180
Gynaecology210
Anaesthetics74
Gastroenterology129
Total5,348
Fazakerley Hospital, Liverpool
Geriatrics28
General Surgery499
Trau and Orth1,127
Gynaecology180
Total1,834
WIRRAL DHA
Arrowe Park District General Hospital, Birkenhead
Rheumatology10
General Surgery428
ENT1,079
Trau and Orth59
Ophthalmology490
Gynaecology773
Total2,839
Clatterbridge Hospital, Bebington
Geriatrics39
General Surgery632
Trau and Orth793
Radiotheraphy178
Oral Surgery135
Total1,777

Supplementary Benefit

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will estimate the net cost of extending the long-term rate of supplementary benefit (i) to all the long-term unemployed who currently do not qualify for it and (ii) to the long-term unemployed with children who do not currently qualify, in a full year at November 1984 benefit rates on the assumptions in the public expenditure White Paper—Cmnd. 8789.

The cost in a full year at November 1984 benefit rates of extending the long-term rate of supplementary benefit to unemployed persons who do not currently qualify, on the assumptions in the public expenditure White Paper (Cmnd. 8789), is estimated at:

£ million
i. all unemployed persons500
ii. unemployed with children230

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish figures showing the numbers of (a) adults and (b) persons, distinguishing between those above and those below pensionable age, with incomes (i) below supplementary benefit levels, (ii) drawing supplementary benefit and (iii) up to 140 per cent. of supplementary benefit, for each year that analysis of the family expenditure survey along these lines has been undertaken.

The analysis to which I believe my hon. Friend is referring has been undertaken for the years 1972–1977 inclusive, 1979 and 1981 and copies are lodged in the Library of the House under the general title "Low Income Families". I refer him to these for the number of families and persons in those families analysed by the various categories detailed in the question. The tables indicate families whose head is of pensionable age, but not the number of adults in that category. The latter information is not immediately available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

Prescriptions

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will review all the categories of medical conditions that presently allow patients suffering from such conditions to have free prescriptions, with a view to ensuring that the list properly relates to current circumstances.

While I sympathise with anyone suffering from a condition not included in the list of those conferring exemption, this is only one part of our wide-ranging exemption system which ensures no-one need be deprived of necessary medication. Over 70 per cent. of all prescription items are currently dispensed free of charge. A further 6 per cent. are dispensed to holders of prepayment certificates.We do of course regularly review our policy on charges and exemptions from charges for prescriptions.

Wheelchairs

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish the results of the user trials on wheelchair one-way brake systems that commenced in March 1983.

I shall consider whether to publish the report on the trials, which are still in progress, when it becomes available early next year.

Prescription Prepayments (Refunds)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if Her Majesty's Government will permit the repayment of prepayments for medication in the case of patients who die before receiving their full supply of medicine whose relatives are not at present able to obtain a refund.

I sympathise where a prescription prepayment certificate is purchased then, for whatever reason, not fully used. However, application forms for prepayment certificates carry a very clear warning that the fee paid will not be returned, save in very exceptional circumstances. Any general system of refunds would have in fairness to include not only people who die while holding a valid certificate but those admitted to NHS inpatient care, and those who become exempt, on whatever grounds, during their certificate's validity. We do not feel that the additional administrative cost this would involve could be justified and therefore have no plans to change the present arrangements.

Family Practitioner Committees

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he intends to bring forward legislation to give family practitioner committees independence from local health authorities; and how many representations he has received supporting this move since June 1983.

Yes. The necessary provisions are contained in the Health and Social Security Bill, which was read for the first time on Friday 2 December 1983. — [Vol. 49, c. 1111.] We have received 67 representations supporting this proposal since June 1983.

Nhs Staff (Pay)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what representations he has received regarding the pay review body for nurses and the paramedical profession.

We have received representations from professional and other interests regarding the establishment of the review body. As it is an independent body, reporting like other pay review bodies to my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister, we would not expect to entertain representations about its operations.

Departmental Financial Awards

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services which organisations and groups have received funding from his Department under section 64 of the Health Services and Public Health Act 1968 in the period April 1983 to April 1984; and what amounts have been awarded in each case.

I shall circulate the latest available information in the Official Report as soon as possible.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what have been the decisive criteria used by his Department when making awards under section 64 of the Health Services and Public Health Act 1968 in the period April 1983 to April 1984.

When considering applications to our general scheme of section 64 grants in the current financial year we have applied the same criteria as previously. Our chief aim is to assist with the central costs of national voluntary organisations which cannot be readily financed from other resources. We also provide grants for limited periods for some innovative projects of potential national significance. In all our grants we carefully consider value for money in relation to our policy objectives for our personal social services and health services. The demand for grants this year has meant that we have had to apply these criteria with particular care, having regard to our priorities.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services by what amount the budget for awards under section 64 of the Health Services and Public Health Act 1968 has increased in the current financial year over the previous financial year.

The total amount available for our general scheme of grants under that section in 1983–84 is £9,954,000. This is £774,000 more than the provision of £9,180,000 in 1982–83. We expect our expenditure to be 11 per cent. higher this year than last.

Earnings-Related Pension (Contributions)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the proportion of each employee's earnings over the appropriate band of income required to be set aside either by employers' or employees' contributions for provision of retirement benefits under the present provisions of the state earnings-related pension scheme in order to meet the commitments of the scheme.

Under financial arrangements made originally in the National Insurance Act 1959, the national insurance fund has been administered on a "pay as you go" basis, with contribution rates in a given year set so as to achieve a broad balance between income to and expenditure from the fund in that year. No money is set aside specifically to meet future commitments.

Retirement Benefits

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what proportion of the national income will be required to be set aside for the provision of retirement benefits on the present national insurance scales in 2025–26 assuming real purchasing power of the benefits remains unchanged.

The answer would depend very much on the assumptions made about economic growth over the period to 2025–26. These issues will be considered by the inquiry into provision for retirement announced by my right hon. Friend on 23 November.—[Vol. 49, c. 360].

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what proportion of the national insurance contribution rate will be required in 2025–26 to fund the earnings-related component of the retirement benefits.

Estimates of future contribution rates vary depending on the assumptions made about real growth of incomes and future unemployment levels, and on decisions about the uprating of benefits taken over the intervening period. A range of illustrative projections are set out in the report by the Government Actuary on the first quinquennial review under the Social Security Act 1975 (HC 451). I refer my hon. Friend particularly to tables 12 and 14 on pages 43 and 45.

Cancer (Children)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many children have been treated for leukaemia and bone cancer at (a) the children's unit at Cheshire hospital, Manchester, and (b) the royal Manchester children's hospital, Pendlebury, in each of the past five years; and what proportion of those treated in each hospital come from Cumbria and the Fylde coast.

The information requested is not available centrally. I suggest the right hon. Member writes to the chairman of the north-western regional health authority, which may be able to give him the required information.

Attendance Allowance

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many men and women over 65 years of age in Scotland are in receipt of daily constant attendance allowances.

I assume that the right hon. Member is referring to beneficiaries who qualify for the lower rate of attendance allowance by satisfying the day attendance conditions. I regret that it is not possible to separate these beneficiaries from those who qualify by satisfying the night-only attendance conditions but on 31 March 1982, the latest date for which figures are available, 8,420 people in Scotland over age 65 were in receipt of the lower rate of the allowance.

Housing Benefit

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list in the Official Report the representations he has received on the recently announced cuts in housing benefit.

We have formally consulted the social security advisory committee and the local authority associations and we are awaiting their response. As is its usual procedure, the SSAC has invited representations on our proposals and its report will take account of the views it receives. The SSAC report, which will be printed as a Command Paper, will also list the organisations and individuals who make representations. We have received only a small number of representations direct; these include views from the Disability Alliance and SHAC—the London Housing Aid Centre.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many pensioners will be taken off supplementary benefit as a result of the changes to housing benefit regulations announced with the Chancellor's autumn statement.

Householders on supplementary benefit will be affected only by the non-dependant deduction changes. In most cases the deductions will be made from their housing benefit, not their supplementary benefit. It is possible that a very few pensioner owner-occupiers on supplementary benefit, who are entitled only by virtue of those housing requirements which are still met under supplementary benefit, will lose their entitlement as a result of the changes. However, the number who may be so affected is far too low to estimate accurately.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will estimate the losses of housing benefit which would be suffered by retirement pensioners receiving income above the needs allowance of 50 pence, £1, £3, £5 and £10 per week and paying notional rates of £6 per week and notional rent of £15 per week, as a result of changes to housing benefit announced in the Chancellor's autumn statement.

None of the examples quoted will be affected by the proposed increase in the minima for standard cases. The effect of the proposed changes to the tapers will be as follows:

Distance above needs allowanceMaximum weekly loss from taper changes
££
0·500·06
1·000·12
3·000·36
5·000·60
10·001·20

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his timetable for laying the regulations containing the changes in housing benefit outlined in the Chancellor's autumn statement; and if he will make a statement.

We are currently consulting the social security advisory committee and the local authority associations. We hope to consider its views and to take our final decisions by Christmas. My right hon. Friend would then aim to lay regulations before Parliament as early as possible in the new year. This timetable is designed to give local authorities as much time as possible to implement the Government's decisions.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will ensure that additional payments for fuel are made more accessible and extensive by his Department, paying particular attention to the problems caused by the introduction of housing benefit.

No. Supplementary benefit heating additions are now at their highest ever real value, and are given to a higher proportion of claimants than ever before.

Queen Elizabeth Hospital For Children, Hackney

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make available sufficient funds to the special health authority for the hospital for sick children to prevent the proposed closure on 1 January 1984 of 24 beds and cots in Goldsmith ward of the Queen Elizabeth hospital for children in Hackney road; and if he will make a statement.

I understand that the board of governors of the hospitals for sick children does not now propose to close Goldsmith ward and hopes to be able to reopen in January 1984 the 20 beds in Connaught ward which are currently closed.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make available sufficient funds to the special health authority for the hospital for sick children to employ sufficient nursing staff to enable the seven cots in the intensive care unit at Queen Elizabeth hospital for children which have been closed down to reopen.

It is for the board of governors of the hospitals for sick children to determine its priorities within the resources made available to it. I understand that at the start of financial year 1983–84, the board decided that clinical activity at its hospitals would remain at the same level as during 1982–83. The Board appears to be making progress in improving its financial position. I do not believe that the day-to-day management of its hospitals would necessarily be improved by detailed supervision by Ministers and the central Government.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services why no place is reserved on the special health authority for the hospital for sick children for one or more representatives of the Queen Elizabeth hospital for children in Hackney road.

The constitution of the special health authorities for the London postgraduate teaching hospitals does not provide for specific representation of individual hospitals, but some members of the board of governors of the hospitals for sick children do have links with Hackney and Queen Elizabeth hospital.

Paediatric Services, Hackney

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he is satisfied with the scale of the provision and financial arrangements for the provision of paediatric services in Hackney; and if he will make a statement.

The City and Hackney health authority, which is responsible for the provision of paediatric services in Hackney, is currently discussing with the board of governors of the hospitals for sick children the local role of Queen Elizabeth hospital.

Hospital Closures

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list, by region and district, the hospitals in England being considered for closure under the statutory procedures, giving the number of beds in each case.

[pursuant to his reply, 23 November 1983; c. 198]: The information we have available centrally is set out in the attached tables. No doubt many proposals will be resolved locally but, in every case where the community health council opposes the closure, a ministerial decision will be required before closure can take place. We shall consider every case referred to us on its merits and approve closure only if we are satisfied that, on the balance of the arguments, patient services would benefit from the decision either directly or by the release of resources for developments in other parts of the service.

Hospitals being considered for complete closure under the formal consultation process: as at 30 September 1983
Region and DistrictHospitalBeds
Northern
NorthumberlandStannington Childrens40
Region and DistrictHospitalBeds
Yorkshire
BradfordThornton View82
BradfordShipley23
East YorkshireWoodgates Maternity Home30
East YorkshireWesterlands Childrens27
HarrogateCarlton Lodge Maternity Home13
HarrogateThistle Hill43
Trent
Debdale Hall Recovery
Central NottinghamshireHome37
East Anglia
Home Place Convalescent
NorwichHome32
NorwichLongacre Maternity Home12
North West Thames
VictoriaAll Saints45
VictoriaVincent Square18
HillingdonUxbridge Cottage24
North HertfordshireNorth Hertfordshire Maternity85
Paddington and North KensingtonChepstow Lodge47
Paddington and North KensingtonHereford Lodge43
North East Thames
Tower HamletsMildmay Mission62
EnfieldCheshunt Cottage14
Waltham ForestLugano Nursing Home26
Waltham ForestHarts78
City and HackneyThe Mothers81
City and HackneyThe German93
City and HackneySt. Mathews164
City and HackneySt. Leonards97
BloomsburyRoyal National Orthopaedic96
HaringeyPrince of Wales115
South East Thames
GreenwichEltham and Mottingham*
South West Thames
South London Hospital for
WandsworthWomen172
CroydonWaddon80
Wessex
Portsmouth and South
East HampshireSandy Point57
West DorsetElsadene Holiday Home20
Oxford
OxfordshireNeithrop and Pines64
West BerkshireHenley War Memorial25
Milton KeynesWestbury Maternity16
Farnham Park
East BerkshireRehabilitation Centre55
West Midlands
Monroe Devis Maternity
South WarwickshireHome21
Worcester and DistrictSt. Walstans260
HerefordshireTupsley31
DudleyThe Limes30
DudleyPrestwood135
Mersey
WirralPriory Day78
CreweTarporley War Memorial10
LiverpoolNewsham General480
LiverpoolPrinces Park100
MacclesfieldKnutsford Cottage16
Region and DistrictHospitalBeds
North Western
WiganAshton32
BuryAinsworth40
Burnley, Pendle and RossendaleGrove House
Queen Charlottes Board of GovernorsQueen Charlottes Convalescent Home42
*Out-patients clinic.
† Day unit; no in-patients.

Worcester Development Project

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what he considers to be the major lessons in terms of both achievement and failure of the Worcester development project.

[pursuant to his reply, 18 November 1983; c. 614]: The Worcester development project was designed, in the words of Mr. Kenneth Robinson when Minister for Health,

"to demonstrate how the problems of transition from the old to a modern comprehensive psychiatric service can be identified and solved in a co-operative exercise"
involving health and local authorities.The main achievement is that such a modern comprehensive service now exists in Worcester and Kidderminster districts, and research studies, which are part of the project, suggest that in general it is serving local people well.The main failures were that the planning and building of the main elements took much longer than expected, and that the expected closure of Powick hospital, following transfer of the remaining "old long-stay" patients elsewhere, has never taken place. The 1970 forecast that the number of inpatients in Powick hospital would fall to 250 by 1980–81 proved precisely accurate. The assumption was that at that stage another mental illness hospital would take the remaining patients who required continuing inpatient care, so that Powick hospital could be closed. This has not in fact happened, and Worcester health authority has, until very recently, still been considering a number of possible changes, including the use of Powick for another purpose. I understand that proposals were at last agreed by the regional health authority last week and have now been put forward to the Department. I hope that they will provide a clear basis for sensible progress.The detailed work of converting the 1970 blueprint into the 1983 reality has taught many lessons, as the various research studies arising from the project demonstrate. Some lessons with resource implications are that DHSS had overestimated the need for short-stay beds, and probably for day hospital and day centre places; while the need for beds for the psychiatry of old age, and for homelike accommodation for people with chronic illnesses was underestimated. These conclusions are broadly in line with those reached by studies elsewhere. Research studies are continuing, under Professor Brockington and Professor Wing. They will include studies to evaluate services to particular groups. More generally, I hope our policies will gain in realism from experience of events in the county of Worcester during the "co-operative exercise". The lesson here is that it is too simple to talk as if "bridging finance" was all that is needed for the closure of old hospitals and the building of modern comprehensive services. All the authorities who will be involved need to be party to the plans and to be committed to seeing them through, and the plans need to be carefully judged to match the needs and to ensure that the resources shift to match the interests of the psychiatric patients.