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Volume 65: debated on Tuesday 23 October 1984

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday 23 October 1984

National Finance

Heroin

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what estimates he has received or what estimates he has made concerning the current weekly or monthly market value in pounds sterling of the quantity of heroin illegally entering the United Kingdom.

Any estimates of the quantity and value of heroin entering the country can only be speculative. The range of those estimates which I have seen is wide and little, if any, reliance can be placed upon them.

Civil Service (Information Technology)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what plans there are for the construction of a separate computer department for the efficient exploitation of information technology in the Civil Service.

Central department responsibilities in this area are discharged by the Central Computer and Telecommunications Agency, part of Treasury. Responsibility for identifying, implementing and managing the application of information technology in Government Departments rests with individual Departments.I would also refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave to my hon. Friend for Croydon, South (Sir W. Clark) on 1 August, at column 395.

Imports (Vat)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will ensure that the new procedures for collection of value added tax on imports will not be introduced until it has been ascertained that all persons who applied before 31 July for duty deferment approval have been notified of their approval number.

All correctly completed applications that were received by Customs before 31 July have been processed and approval certificates sent to the approved persons. Customs expects that all properly completed applications received before 30 September will likewise be processed and certificates of approval issued in time for traders' use on 1 November.Customs can give no such assurance for applications which contain errors, but all those received up to 30 September have had action taken to resolve the queries. Corrective action is taken as soon as the queries are resolved so that as many applications as possible will be approved in time for the start date of 1 November.

Dunlop

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what recent arrangements have been made by the Bank of England to rescue Dunlop from its £400 million losses; and if he will make a statement.

None.I understand that after recent reports concerning its role in the affairs of Dunlop the Bank of England made a statement in the following terms:

"Contrary to indications in a press article today, the Bank of England is not engaged in discussions currently in train between Dunlop and its bankers. But the Bank has been kept informed of the progress of these discussions throughout and its good offices continue to be available to those concerned as in any other case in the normal way".

I have nothing further to add to the Bank of England's statement.

Johnson Matthey

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) whether he will make a statement on the recent Johnson Matthey gold bullion dealers collapse; and what arrangements the Bank of England has made to rescue it;(2) why he authorised the rescue of Johnson Matthey.

I understand from the governor of the Bank of England that it became evident over the period immediately preceding the bank's acquisition of Johnson Matthey Bankers on 1 October 1984 that JMB was experiencing very serious problems with the commercial lending side of its business. As the failure of JMB would have caused severe problems for the other members of the London gold market, the bank organised the rescue package which was announced on 1 October.The main features of this package were that the parent company, Johnson Matthey plc, injected an additional £50 million capital into JMB; the Bank of England acquired JMB for the nominal sum of £1; a number of City institutions are providing indemnities for the event that JMB's losses may exceed the capital and reserves now available to JMB, with the Bank of England itself providing a small contribution to that indemnity; and a consortium of banks agreed to supply a loan facility of £250 million to support Johnson Matthey plc should that prove necessary.I understand that discussions involving some shareholders in Johnson Matthey plc as to the means by which further capital may be injected into that company are not yet concluded. Any proposals affecting the share capital of that company would have to be approved by shareholders before they could be implemented.The Bank of England did not require my authority in order to carry out these operations.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he is satisfied that all investors of Johnson Matthey were invited to the crisis meeting on 30 September at which the governor of the Bank of England was present.

On 30 September the sole shareholder in Johnson Matthey Bankers was the then parent company, Johnson Matthey plc. Johnson Matthey plc was represented at the meeting which I believe the hon. Member has in mind. It was neither necessary nor practical for all shareholders in Johnson Matthey plc to be invited to that meeting.

Finance Council Meeting

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will make a statement about the meeting of the European Community Finance Council in Luxembourg on 1 October.

I represented the United Kingdom at this Council. After detailed discussion, the Council reached a wide measure of agreement on the measures necessary to guarantee the effective application of the principles of budgetary discipline agreed by the European Council at its meetings in March and June. There were, however, some outstanding reservations by the French and Danish Governments, which will require further consideration in the Council.

Paye

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he proposes any measures to encourage prompter payment by employers of tax deducted by them under pay-as-you-earn.

Under the existing PAYE regulations, where an employer falls into arrear with his monthly payments the collector of taxes may visit him to inspect his records and quantify the tax due. Where the debt remains unpaid he may then enforce payment. A change in these regulations is being considered which would enable the collector to issue a notice to an employer estimating the amount of his unpaid liability. Unless the employer paid the estimated amount or the correct liability during the period allowed in the notice the estimated amount would be enforceable in the same way as a quantified liability. Similar changes would be made to the corresponding regulations relating to national insurance contributions and amounts deducted from payments to subcontractors in the construction industry. The changes would thus speed up the process of bringing in money held which is overdue for payment.The Inland Revenue will shortly be consulting organisations representing employers and contractors about these proposals.

Education And Science

European University Institute

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the contribution of the United Kingdom in the current academic period to the European University Institute in Florence; and by what means Her Majesty's Government are represented or sit on the body responsible for its finance.

In the financial year 1983–84, the United Kingdom contributed £672,000 to the European University Institute, whose main function is the promotion of postgraduate research in the field of European civilisation. Her Majesty's Government are represented by a senior official of the Department of Education and Science and a university vice-chancellor on the institute's high council, whose functions as the governing body include responsibility for the approval of the institute's budget and the oversight of its expenditure.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many students from the United Kingdom are currently pursuing courses at public expense at the European University Institute in Florence; for what qualifications; and in which faculties of learning.

Twenty-one students from the United Kingdom are currently engaged on postgraduate work at the European University Institute with support from public funds. Of these, 19 have been admitted to prepare for the doctorate of the institute, divided as follows among the departments of the institute:

History and Civilisation—5; Economics—6; Law—2; Political and Social Sciences—6.
Two students have been admitted to the Law Department to prepare for the degree of Master in Comparative and European Legal Studies. A further two students have been granted leave of absence for study elsewhere during the present academic year and will take up their grants again in 1985–86.

Glc (Abolition)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what effect the proposed abolition of the Greater London council will have upon joint education projects administered by one London borough on behalf of others; and if he will make a statement.

Each outer London borough is a local education authority, and will not be affected in this regard by the abolition of the GLC. In the area of the inner London boroughs and the City of London, education will continue to be provided by a single directly-elected education authority, which will take over the area and responsibilities of the ILEA when the GLC is abolished.

British Scientists (Emigration)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many British scientists engaged on research work have left their posts to take up similar appointments abroad since 1979; which countries they have gone to; and if he will make a statement.

Special Teachers

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will list in the Official Report those organisations and individuals who responded to the report of the advisory committee on the supply and education of teachers, teacher training and special educational needs; and how many of these opposed the proposal to end the mandatory requirement for teachers of (a) the deaf, (b) partially-hearing and (c) the blind to hold a specialist qualification.

>"Parental Influence At School"

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will list in the Official Report those organisations and individuals who responded to the Green Paper, "Parental Influence at School" (Cmnd. 9242); how many of these submissions supported the proposal that parents should elect, from amongst themselves, the majority of the members of school governing bodies; and if he will make a statement.

Transport

Motorway Construction (Hampshire)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will list the motorway construction which has taken place in Hampshire since 1979; and what work currently in hand is expected to be open for public use in the next five years.

The information requested is as follows:

  • M27 Stoneham-Hedge End—opened December 1983
  • M27 Chilworth-Stoneham—opened July 1984
  • M3 Popham-Bar End—under construction, due to open in two stages in summer and autumn 1985
The M27 from Cadnam to Portsbridge is now fully open. Subject to the timely completion of the necessary statutory procedures and availability of resources for the schemes not yet under construction, the final sections of the M3 motorway between Bar End and Bassett should be open to traffic within the next five years.

London Regional Transport

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what changes have occurred in the conditions of travel for elderly handicapped or blind persons on London Regional Transport since it was established; and if he has approved any such change.

The experiment, funded by the Greater London council, under which the starting time for free travel for handicapped people was advanced from 9.30 am to 9 am on weekdays, ended on 3 September. It is for the local authorities concerned to decide the extent to which they are prepared to fund concessionary travel, and the Secretary of State's approval was not required for this change.

Ec Budget (Refunds)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what transport projects are to receive the funds allocated to transport from the refunds paid to the United Kingdom in respect of the 1983 European Community budget.

I am pleased to report that the Commission of the European Communities has announced that 33 transport projects in the United Kingdom will receive a total of £273 million from the refund agreed in respect of the United Kingdom's 1983 EC budget contribution. The details of the projects and amounts involved are as follows:

£ million
English Roads
1. A12 Copdock and Washbrook By-pass4·2
2. M25 Dartford Tunnel Approach1·1
3. M25 A10/M11 Section19·9
4. M25 Heathrow/M4 Spur21·7
5. M25 Swanley Links Section4·3
6. M25 Chertsey/Wisley Section9·3
7. M25 Leatherhead Interchange8·8
8. M25 Wisley/Leatherhead Section8·8

£ million

9. M25 A13/A12 Section2·6
10. M25 M11/A12 Section3·4
11. M27 Chilworth-Hedge End13·2
12. M5 Tiverton4·7
13. A38 Marsh Mills/Tamar Bridge10·8
14. A41 Newport By-Pass2·1
15. A47 Gt. Yarmouth Western By-Pass4·5
16. A47 Wisbech-West Walton By-Pass3·7
17. A63 Hull South Docks Road6·6
18. M3 Popham-Bar End7·7
19. M42 Birmingham Southern Motorway ring (Bromsgrove Section)20·5
20. M65 Whitebirk/Hyndburn8·8
21. A45 Ipswich Southern By-Pass2·0
22. A11 Attleborough By-Pass1·9

Welsh Roads

23. A5/A55 Hawarden By-Pass7·7
24. A5/A55 Colwyn By-Pass28·9
25. A5/A55 Bangor By-Pass7·2
26. M4 Baglan-Lonlas3·1
27. A470 Abercynon-Pentrebach Section13·8
28. A40 Carmarthen/Bangfelin Section5·0

Scottish Roads

29. M74 Draffen Millbank Section3·8
30. A94 Lawrence Kirk/Stonehaven By-Pass10·2

Rail Projects

31. Resignalling—East Croydon17·7
32. Resignalling—Balham/Factory Junction4·5
33. Victoria Rail/Air Interchange0·5

Payments amounting to £246 million will shortly be made by the Commission. The remaining 10 per cent. will be paid in due course, following normal Commission auditing procedures.

Trade And Industry

Ceramic Sanitaryware

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will make a statement on imports of Belgian ceramic sanitaryware in general; and what response he is making to the points raised by Mr. Geoffrey Webb-Bowen, Director of the British Ceramic Sanitaryware Manufacturers, in his letter to him of 24 July.

Her Majesty's Government remain concerned about the continuing and adverse effects on the United Kingdom ceramic sanitaryware industry of imports of Belgian products, which have risen significantly since 1979. This concern and the urgent need to resolve the problem of continued assistance to the Belgian industry has been made clear to the EC Commission.

Libya

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will make a statement on current trade between the United Kingdom and Libya.

During the first eight months of 1984 — the latest statistics available — United Kingdom exports to Libya totalled £154 million and imports from Libya £97 million.

Dangerous Toys

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what discussions are held between Her Majesty's Government and the Hong Kong Government concerning the import of possible dangerous toys.

My officials discuss with the Hong Kong Government's London office any questions about the safety of particular toys made in Hong Kong as the need arises.Additionally, officials from my Department and the Hong Kong Government are exploring ways of ensuring that Hong Kong producers of consumer goods, including toys, for the United Kingdom market increase their understanding of the safety requirements of relevant British standards.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what representations he has received from the Merseyside county council concerning the import of toy guns from Hong Kong; wht reply he has sent; and if he will make a statement.

Merseyside county council trading standards department submitted a report dated 10 September 1984 about the safety of a particular toy gun made in Hong Kong.The plastic toy gun—known as a "Detective Special" —conforms with the requirements of British standard BS 5665—safety of toys. I am informed that it has been withdrawn from sale and that no similarly powered projectile firing toys are now on the market.Nevertheless, I was concerned about the potential dangers of this type of toy and my officials quickly arranged a meeting with the toy trade. The participants, including a representative of Merseyside county council, concluded that few, if any projectile firing toys now on the British market gave cause for concern. It was agreed that BS 5665 was the best available reference point for the safety of toy guns and similar products. The requirements of the standard, taken together with the normal precautions and checks which all responsible manufacturers, importers, distributors and retailers make, are normally more than adequate from a safety point of view. However, my Department's technical advisers are considering whether there is scope for improving this standard.With toy guns that actually fire things rather than simply make a bang, it is generally accepted that there is a parental duty to prevent the gun being fired at people, particularly at very close range.

Small Workshops Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what effect the small workshops scheme has had on the supply of small industrial premises.

I am carrying out a review of the effect of the small workshops scheme on the supply of small industrial premises of 2,500 sq. ft. and below and will publish the results on the completion of the review.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Veterinary Investigation Centres

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will list the veterinary investigation centres in England indicating the location of each one and the number of staff employed.

The information requested is as follows:

Veterinary Investigation CentreFull and part-time staff employed on 15 October 1984
Eastern Region
Cambridge18
Lincoln15
Northampton13
Norwich22
Midlands and Western Region
Chester7
Liverpool14
Shrewsbury25
Sutton Bonnington24
Worcester19
Northern Region
Leeds19
Newcastle18
Penrith21
Thirsk21
South Eastern Region
Reading19
Winchester15
Wye12
South Western Region
Bristol22
Gloucester16
Starcross, Exeter16
Truro13

Tuberculosis

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many tuberculosis outbreaks there have been in cattle in Cornwall in each of the last 10 years.

The table gives the total number of cattle herds in Cornwall in which tuberculin reactors have been found in each of the last 10 years.

Bovine tuberculosis in cattle—total herds with reactors in Cornwall
Number
1974254
1975252
1976139
197791
197894
197976
1980133
1981107
198282
198383

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what was, in the last 10 years, the annual gross expenditure on the control of bovine tuberculosis in Cornwall.

The information requested is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

Employment

Occupational Health And Hygiene Services

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will, through the Health and Safety Executive, ensure the introduction of a voluntary code of practice setting out a basis for extending the provision of occupational health and hygiene services as recommended by the House of Lords Select Committee on Science and Technology, "Occupational Health and Hygiene Services"; and if he will set up a departmental inquiry into the cost and feasibility of such an extended service.

The Select Committee recognised in its report that there would be wide variation in the needs of different industries and organisations for occupational health and hygiene services and that the specific needs of a range of industries would need to be studied before a code of practice could be drawn up. The Health and Safety Commission has asked its advisory committees to carry out the necessary studies as recommended by the Select Committee. The commission has published a detailed response, which the Government have accepted, to the Select Committee's report.

Leicester (Ministerial Visit)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the results of the visit to Leicester on 20 June 1984 by the hon. Member for Suffolk, Coastal (Mr. Gummer) the then Minister of State.

My hon. Friend the Member for Suffolk, Coastal (Mr. Gummer), my predecessor as Minister with immediate responsibility for matters of health and safety at work, visited Leicester on 20 June at the invitation of the hon. and learned Member to discuss allegations about illegal working conditions in small firms in the textile and clothing industries. He visited a number of firms and held discussions with the editor of the Leicester Mercury and a number of local groups. He visited Leicester again on 10 September to announce a campaign that is being undertaken by the Health and Safety Executive and the Wages Inspectorate, involving as appropriate the fire authorities, to investigate alleged illegal working conditions in three areas—Leicester, the west midlands and London's east end. I expect to receive reports from the Health and Safety Executive and from the Wages Inspectorate on the outcome of the campaign and will inform the House of further developments in due course.

Share Ownership (Employees)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what plans he has to encourage the increase in the role of employees in the companies by which they are employed through the ownership of shares.

The Government are firmly committed to encouraging employee share ownership as a part of their wider policy of encouraging employee involvement on a voluntary basis. My right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer and his right hon. and learned predecessor have already taken major steps to improve the tax incentives for employee share schemes. Between them they have introduced new reliefs for two different types of share option schemes — in 1980 and this year— and made significant improvements to the profit sharing reliefs. The success of these initiatives is evident from the continuing increase in the number of approved employee share schemes, which has grown from 30 in 1979 to 775 by the end of September, this year. In addition a major benefit of our privatisation arrangements is that large numbers of employees are given a chance to own a stake in the company for which they work.

Prime Minister

Taoiseach

Q20.

asked the Prime Minister when she last met the Taoiseach of the Irish Republic.

Fontainebleau Summit

Q49.

asked the Prime Minister what progress has been made during the summer adjournment on resolving the issues raised at the Fontainebleau summit.

Considerable progress has hem made towards resolving the outstanding budget issues. At the Foreign Affairs Council on 2–3 October member states reaffirmed their commitment to paying the United Kingdom's abatement for 1984 on the revenue side of the budget in 1985 as agreed at Fontainebleau. The Council also concluded an inter-governmental agreement covering the Community's inescapable financial obligations for 1984. The United Kingdom made it clear that its contribution to this arrangement depended upon release of our 1983 refunds and agreement on a budget discipline text which implements the conclusions of the European Council. Work to complete this text, and the text of the new own resources decision, is continuing. The European Parliament voted on 10 October to release the United Kingdom's refunds for 1983.

St Cadoc's Hospital, Gwent

Q59.

asked the Prime Minister if, following the withdrawal of full evening meals from the patients at St. Cadoc's hospital, Caerleon, Newport, Gwent, she is satisfied with the handling of nutritional standards at this hospital and that sufficient resources have been made available by the Government in this regard.

Maintenance of nutritional standards at St. Cadoc's hospital is the direct responsibility of the Gwent health authority. I am satisfied the authority is exercising this responsibility with the interest of patients fully in mind and that it has all the resources necessary.

Engagements

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 23 October.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 23 October.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 23 October.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 23 October.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 23 October.

This morning I had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others. I was present at Victoria to meet President Mitterrand on his arrival for a state visit. In addition to my duties in the House I shall be having further meetings later today. This evening I hope to attend a state banquet in honour of President Mitterrand at Buckingham palace.

Liverpool

asked the Prime Minister if she will make a statement on her recent visit to Liverpool.

I visited Merseyside on 2 October 1984 along with my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment. During the morning I saw some of the problems and potential which exist in housing areas in the inner city. I saw at first hand some of the poor housing conditions and some of the positive responses to these conditions involving cooperation between the public and the private sectors. I subsequently opened a "meet the buyers" Technomart exhibition at Wavertree technology park. In the afternoon I met members of the Merseyside county council and Liverpool city council before leaving to view the International Garden Festival and the Albert dock developments.

Glc (Abolition)

asked the Prime Minister if she will state the date at which she became publicly committed to the policy of abolition of the Greater London council.

Wales

Hospital Waiting Lists

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is the average waiting time between a patient being referred by his general practitioner and getting an appointment with a hospital consultant or a junior doctor in the department in each of the district general hospitals in Wales; and how do such time intervals compare with time waited by patients one and five years ago, respectively.

Occupational Medicine

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many consultants in occupational medicine are employed by each of the health authorities in Wales.

At 30 September 1984 there was one part-time consultant employed by Clwyd health authority.

Health Authorities (Nurses' Pay)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will detail the manner in which each of the health authorities in Wales has made savings necessary to meet the 20 per cent. of the annual bill for 1984–85 of the nurses' pay increase, to be provided by individual authorities.

This is a matter for the health authorities themselves, who are developing substantial programmes to improve their efficiency.

Home Department

Prisoners (Statistics)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many women were in each penal establishment at the latest available date.

The information is given in the following table:

Female population by prison department establishment in England and Wales on 31 August 1984
EstablishmentAged under 21Adults
Askham Grange573
Bullwood Hall Prison40
Bullwood Hall Youth Custody Centre77
Cookham Wood116
Drake Hall Prison134
Drake Hall Youth Custody Centre47
Durham235
East Sutton Park Prison47
East Sutton Park Youth Custody Centre17
Holloway64247
Low Newton732
Pucklechurch748
Risley3693
Styal Prison5210
Styal Youth Custody Centre34
Total3011,075

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many females currently in prison are (a) drug dependents, (b) alcoholic and (c) mentally ill.

During 1983, 303 females were recorded as dependent on drugs on reception into prison custody. The number held in custody at any one time is not recorded centrally.The number of alcoholics in prison custody is not recorded, mainly because of problems of definition.On 30 June 1984, there were 36 females in prison custody assessed as mentally disordered for the purposes of part II of the Mental Health Act 1983. Of these, 24 were diagnosed as mentally ill.

Broadcasting Complaints Commission

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) how many complaints of unfair treatment or unwarranted infringement of privacy have been received by the Broadcasting Complaints Commission since it was set up in 1980; how many were considered to be within the commission's terms of reference; how many were upheld, partly upheld or rejected; and if he will publish the details in tabular form in the Official Report;(2) how many cases were considered to be within the terms of reference of the Broadcasting Complaints Commission in each year since its creation under the

Broadcasting Complaints Commission
Complaints considered to be within the Commission's jurisdiction
YearUnjust or unfair treatmentUnwarranted infringement of privacyComplaints not adjudicated on by virtue of section 55 of the Broadcasting Act 1981Complaints adjudicated onComplaints upheldComplaints partly upheldComplaints rejectedComplaints outstanding at the end of the year
1 June 1981 to 31 March
1982114*23134316
1 April 1982 to 31 March
198323445121921622
1 April 1983 to 31 March
198422847311363425
1 April 1984 to date 128*1916613222
*Including one complaint of unjust or unfair treatment and of unwarranted infringement of privacy.
To date.

Isle Of Man

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) if he will place in the Library a copy of the agreement under which the Isle of Man receives a proportion of the United Kingdom's oil revenues;(2) what formula is used to determine the payments to the Isle of Man; how much has been paid in each year since the agreement was signed; and whether the Government are satisfied with the terms of the agreement;(3) what representations have been received since 1979 concerning the agreement authorising payments to the Isle of Man

(a) from the Isle of Man, (b) from within the United Kingdom and (c) from other areas or Governments.

The texts of the letters exchanged between Her Majesty's Government and the Government of the Isle of Man, which together represent the Continental Shelf Agreement 1966, have been placed in the Library. These letters recognise the island's contribution, by virtue of its geographical position, to the extent of the United Kingdom's continental shelf.Under this agreement, the Isle of Man Government receive a proportion of the licence proceeds—whether by way of application fees, periodic payments or royalties —made to the Secretary of State for Energy in respect of licences issued under the Petroleum (Production) Act 1934, as extended offshore by the Continental Shelf Act 1964, less administrative expenses. The proportion in question is based on the resident population of the Isle of Man expressed as a percentage of that of the United Kingdom—0·11578 per cent.The sums received by the Isle of Man Government under this agreement are as follows: Broadcasting Act 1980; of those how many have been adjudicated upon; and if he is satisfied that all cases being referred to the commission are being dealt with promptly.

The information on the work of the Broadcasting Complaints Commission since its establish-ment on 1 June 1981 is as follows. I have no reason to believe that the commission does not deal with all cases as expeditiously as circumstances permit.

Financial year£
1968–69309
1969–701,211
1970–711,425
1971–724,654
1972–7345,419
1973–7415,184
1974–7514,590
1975–7618,349·94
1976–7723,385·33
1977–7875,717·17
1978–79236,298·92
1979–80328,233·97
1980–81493,001·86
1981–822,993,373·93
1982–831,683,991·00
1983–842,484,904·00
The Isle of Man Government have made a number of representations which have largely been directed towards including in the terms of the agreement a sharing of other revenues from aspects of mineral exploitation on the United Kingdom continental shelf. Her Majesty's Government have been unable to agree that such changes would be justified, though they have accepted in principle that the effects of the Petroleum Royalties (Relief) Act 1983 are likely in the longer term to merit some adjustment to the agreement to maintain the spirit of what was originally agreed. This matter is currently under consideration by both Governments.I am not aware that any other representations have been made about the agreement from within the United Kingdom or from any other area or Government. Her Majesty's Government remain satisfied with the terms of the agreement, subject to a satisfactory outcome being reached on the question of the effects of the Petroleum Royalties (Relief) Act.

Wormwood Scrubs

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many (a) adults and (b) children visit prisoners in Wormwood Scrubs on an average week day, Saturday and Sunday, respectively.

The following information has been taken from inmates' visiting orders at Her Majesty's prison Wormwood Scrubs:

  • (a) Visits to convicted prisoners:
    • Weekday average:73
    • Saturday average: 101
    • [Period covered: 16 September 1984–17 October 1984]
  • (b) Visits to remand prisoners:
    • Weekday average: 364
    • Saturday average: 482
    • [Period covered: 6 October 1984–13 October 1984]
    Normally no visits take place at the prison on a Sunday. Children under 16 must accompany an adult and visits by them are not recorded separately.

    Police (Injury Statistics)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will provide a list of the number of police officers injured on duty in each of the past five years.

    This information is not held centrally and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

    Local Elections 1986

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he has any plans to change the date of the ordinary local elections in 1986.

    Ordinary local elections are held on the first Thursday in May: in 1986 this is Thursday 1 May. The Board of Deputies of British Jews has made representations that the elections should be postponed a week because 1 May 1986 falls during Passover. Following consultations with the local authority associations, we have decided to include in the forthcoming Representation of the People Bill a provision moving the ordinary day of election from 1 to 8 May 1986. The local authorities affected are London borough councils, district councils in England and Wales which are elected by thirds, some parish and community councils in those districts and regional and islands area councils in Scotland.

    Scotland

    Legal Aid

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what percentage of applications for legal aid at Airdrie sheriff court is refused and how this compares with the average figures for Scotland.

    In 1983–84 34 per cent. of applications were refused; the average figure for sheriff courts in Scotland was 11 per cent.

    Scheduled Monuments

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland in how many cases, as envisaged by part II of the Ancient Monuments and Archaeological Areas Act 1979, investigating authorities were consulted in Scotland in connection with applications for scheduled monument consents, since that Act became operational.

    Part II of the Ancient Monuments and Archaeological Areas Act 1979 has not to date been brought into force in Scotland.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many sites in Scotland have been scheduled as ancient monuments since the implementation of the Ancient Monuments and Archaeological Areas Act 1979 and how many such sites have been descheduled.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many ancient monuments in Scotland, for which consent to develop or destroy has been issued, have been archaeologically excavated; and in how many cases total excavation took place.

    Since the relevant provisions of the Ancient Monuments and Archaeological Areas Act 1979 came into force in Scotland on 30 September 1981, there have been three such cases, in all of which partial excavation was sufficient.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what specific sums of money and what proportion of the total finance in connection with archaeological excavations of ancient monuments in Scotland was provided by his Department, local authorities and the Manpower Services Commission, respectively, over the most recent convenient period.

    In the financial year 1983–84 expenditure incurred in Scotland by my Department on archaeological investigation of threatened sites and at ancient monuments in the care of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State amounted to £694,000. The Manpower Services Commission has funded a number of archaeological investigations in Scotland under the community programme. Expenditure on such projects in 1983–84 amounted to £313,000. Details of local authority expenditure on archaeology in Scotland are not held centrally.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) in how many cases, by region in Scotland, publicity was given, and in what form, relating to applications received for scheduled monument consents, since the Ancient Monuments and Archaeological Areas Act 1979 became operational;(2) in how many cases, by region in Scotland, there was a public local inquiry or a specific hearing before a person appointed by his Department in order to determine applications relating to scheduled monument consents;(3) how many scheduled monument consents have been issued since the implementation of the Ancient Monuments and Archaeological Areas Act 1979 in the appropriate regions of Scotland;(4) how many applications, by region of Scotland, there have been from developers and archaeologists, respectively, in relation to scheduled monument consents, since the implementation of the Ancient Monuments and Archaeological Areas Act of 1979;(5) how many scheduled monument consents, by region of Scotland, given since the coming into operation of the Ancient Monuments and Archaeological Areas Act 1979 were unconditional and how many made prior archaeological excavation a condition of consent.

    Cases in which Scheduled Monument Consent applications were subjected toNumber of Scheduled Monument Consent Applications received*Number of Scheduled Monument Consents granted
    PublicityPublic Local Inquiry or HearingFrom DevelopersFrom ArchaeologistsUnconditionalConditional on prior archaeological investigationTotal
    Borders2145
    Central3
    Dumfries & Golloway114
    Fife23
    Grampian12114
    Highland112
    Lothian1
    Strathclyde434119
    Tayside1
    Orkney Islands Area11
    Shetland Islands Area11
    Western Isles Islands Area111
    Totals11713345

    Note: The entries in this table are not additive, since (* ) applications are made by persons other than archaeologists or developers (for example, local authorities or other owners of standing monuments seeking to repair or adapt them) and a( ) consent may be conditional on a matter not related to archaeology.

    Salmon And Freshwater Fisheries Act 1951 (Convictions)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give the number of convictions under section 2(1) of the Salmon and Freshwater Fisheries Act 1951 in (a) Lerwick and (b) Kirkwall sheriff courts in each of the following years: 1957, 1960, 1963, 1966, 1969 and 1972 to 1983.

    To produce the information for the years 1966 and earlier: would incur disproportionate cost. Thereafter the type of court and the area in which the offence took place are identified, but not necessarily the individual sheriff court. Nor does the classification used by my Department for the years after 1979 separately identify the statute referred to. No convictions under section 2 of the 1951 Act were recorded in 1969 and 1972 to 1979. For the later years there was one case of a salmon and freshwater fisheries offence in Shetland in 1983, but whether or not under section 2 of the 1951 Act is not recorded.

    Nuclear Bunker, Coupar Angus

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) what is the expected completion date of the construction of the nuclear bunker near Coupar Angus;(2) what are the amounts to be spent annually on the construction of the nuclear bunker at Coupar Angus; and what are the estimated annual running costs of the bunker after completion;(3) why the Scottish Home and Health Department has advised Tayside regional council on the need for economies in spending on the £360,000 nuclear bunker near Coupar Angus;(4) if he will publish in the

    Official Report the text of the letter from the Scottish Home and Health Department to Tayside regional council on the need for economies in the construction of the nuclear bunker near Coupar Angus.

    The information, which is for the period from 30 November 1981 to 30 September 1984, is given in the following table:

    Tayside regional council does not propose to provide a "nuclear bunker". It proposes to establish an emergency centre to control and co-ordinate the maintenance of essential services during wartime. This meets an obligation placed on it by regulations approved by Parliament in November 1983. I understand that the regional council hopes to complete construction of the centre in 1987–88, that the estimated construction costs included in its financial plan 1984–90 are as shown in the table, and that the annual running costs, including loan charges, are estimated at about £13,000. In discussions at official level, my Department has emphasised the need to reduce costs to the essential minimum, consistent with providing an effective emergency centre, but no letter of the kind mentioned has been sent. Formal approval of the scheme and the estimated costs have not yet been given.

    -£ thousand
    Prior to 1984–858
    1984–8519
    1985–8647
    1986–87272
    1987–8814
    Total360

    Assisted Places Scheme

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what has been the number and percentage of places awarded under the assisted places scheme to pupils already attending grant-aided or independent schools in the latest school session in Scotland; and what are the corresponding figures for each participating school.

    Statistics for the assisted places scheme in the current school session are not yet available. but I shall reply to the hon. Member as soon as they are to hand.

    Fee-Paying Schools (Rates Relief)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will now collect and publish the annual rates relief awarded to fee-paying schools in Scotland claiming charitable status.

    Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

    Libya (British Citizens)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on the British citizens now detained in Libya.

    The continued detention of four British citizens in Libya is a matter of deep concern. We have made and continue to make use of every opportunity to persue the release of the hostages.The four British citizens detained in Libya since mid-May are held together in a villa. The premises are clean; their food is prepared by a local hotel; and according to our latest information they remain in good health. The wives of three of the detainees have visited their husbands in the past three months and the sister of the fourth plans to visit her brother towards the end of this month.Although formal consular access has not been granted since 19 July our consular official in Libya has seen the men individually when next of kin have visited them.

    Hong Kong (Child Labour)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how many firms have been prosecuted for employing child labour in Hong Kong over the five years to the latest available date.

    From 1 January 1979 to 30 September 1984, 1,339 cases of child labour, each involving one child, were prosecuted. Statistics on the number of individual firms involved are not available.

    Africa (Ministerial Visit)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on the Minister of State's recent visit to Africa.

    I visited Zambia, Mozambique and Malawi from 17 to 25 September at the invitation of their Governments, as part of the normal exchanges of visits with friendly states. I called on the President of each of those countries, and discussed with Ministers and senior officials a wide range of bilateral and regional issues. As well as discussing opportunities for British trade and investment, I was able to indicate new bilateral aid.

    Anglo-Libyan Relations

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on current relations between Her Majesty's Government and the Government of Libya.

    Our chief concern is the continuing and totally unjustified detention in Libya of four British citizens. We are continuing to make vigorous representations through the Italian protecting power and through other channels. Until all the detainees are released unconditionally we cannot begin to consider ways of dealing with other matters between the two Governments.

    Cayman Islands

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what information he has regarding the use of the Cayman Islands for purposes of tax avoidance and evasion.

    None. The Cayman Islands Confidential Relationships (Preservation) Law 1976 provides for banking secrecy, save in respect of matters which are criminal under the provisions of Cayman law.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what representations he has received in the last five years from (a) individuals and (b) Governments concerning (i) the status and (ii) the use of purposes of tax evasion and avoidance of the Cayman Islands.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will list all official treaties, documents or agreements entered into between the United Kingdom and the Cayman Islands in the last 10 years.

    There have been no official treaties or agreements entered into between the United Kingdom and the Cayman Islands in the last 10 years as they are not required in view of the special relationship which exists between the United Kingdom and its dependent territories.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what information he has regarding the use of the Cayman Islands for purposes of drug trafficking; and what representations he has received in this respect.

    The Cayman Islands, in common with other territories in the Caribbean, are used irregularly by drug traffickers as transhipment points between the producing countries of Central and South America and the USA. We and the Cayman Islands Government, in cooperation with law enforcement agencies in the region, are determined to prevent these abuses. No representations have been received on this matter. But in July 1984 we signed an agreement with the United States to enable the United States authorities to obtain documentary evidence in Cayman relating to offences connected with the traffic in drugs.

    Diplomatic Immunity

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how many claims there have been for diplomatic or sovereign immunity in each of the past 10 years.

    The evidence given by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office in June to the Select Committee on Foreign Affairs (HC 499—i) gave details of criminal offences since 1 January 1974 allegedly committed by persons enjoying diplomatic immunity. We have no central record of alleged criminal offences committed by persons entitled to sovereign immunity, but the number of such offences is very small.

    We have no means of knowing how many times diplomatic or sovereign immunity has been claimed in civil cases; nor of the number of times immunity has been claimed by an individual, but rejected by a court.

    Defence

    Widows (Pensions)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will list, in respect of pensions granted to widows whose husbands served below the rank of warrant officer I and who retired before 1 September 1950, that is pre-1950 widows (a) the number of widows currently in receipt of a pre-1950 widows' pension, (b) the total number of widows who have been granted such a pension since such pensions were granted in 1979, (c) the current level of pension and (d) the current annual cost.

    The answers to (a) to (d) as at 30 September 1984 are:

  • (a)17,228.
  • (b)21,773.
  • (c) The level of pension depends on the husband's rank on discharge. The current annual rates are:
  • £
    Warrant Officer I675·72
    Warrant Officer II620·41
    Staff Sergeant573·97
    Sergeant498·83
    Corporal and below377·25
    These will be increased by 5·1 per cent. from 26 November 1984.

    (d)£8·7 million.

    Vc10 Tanker Contract

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he can give an indication as to when the VC10 tanker contract is to be awarded; if he is now prepared to award the preflight work to British Aerospace; and if he will make a statement.

    The requirement for future VC10 tanker conversions is still under consideration. British Aerospace plc, if awarded the prime contract, would be required to seek competitive tenders for as much subcontract work as possible, including the preflight work to prepare the aircraft to fly to the conversion site. British Aerospace plc itself would be free to tender for this subcontract work.

    Competitive Tendering

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will reconsider his Department's policy regarding competitive tendering in view of the problems this is creating for the military aircraft division of British Aerospace; and if he will make a statement.

    British Aerospace (Woodford Factory)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if, in view of the problems being caused for the Woodford factory of British Aerospace, he will now give an indication when the contract for major servicing will be finalised, and when the Nimrod RTW contract will be awarded; and if he will make a statement.

    We expect to make a decision about Nimrod major servicing early in 1985 following competitive tender. We have no plans at present for a Nimrod return to works programme.

    Faslane Submarine Base

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the reasons why Strathclyde fire brigade was required at the Faslane submarine base on 18 August; at what distance was the Nathanael Greene from the fire; and whether any explosion occurred on that day.

    The Strathclyde fire brigade responded to a routine call following a fire alarm at the Clyde submarine base. The fire took place in an enclosed steel machinery space on the Admiralty floating dock in which the USS Nathanael Greene was at the time. The fire was approximately 10 m from the USS Nathanael Greene, but it was of a minor nature, there was no explosion, and the submarine was not endangered at any time.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether an inquiry has been ordered into events at Faslane on 18 August.

    The normal local investigation following an incident of this kind has taken place.

    Military Bases (Accidents)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will in future inform local authorities of accidents at military bases which may affect the health and safety of local inhabitants.

    It is our normal practice to inform local authorities should there be a potential risk to the health and safety of local people as a result of an accident. The minor incident at the Clyde submarine base on 18 August constituted no such risk.

    Military Bases (Emergency Services)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will in future inform local authorities of the reasons for which local authority emergency services are used at military bases.

    Local authorities will continue to be informed about the use of local emergency services when there is an incident that may have potential health and safety implications for the local population.

    European Aircraft Programme

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what progress is being made towards the five-nation European aircraft programme; and if he will make a statement.

    I refer the hon. Member to the answer given to the hon. Member for Kingston upon Hull, North (Mr. McNamara) on 10 July, at columns 448–490. The technical and industrial feasibility study of a European fighter aircraft is well under way and a full European staff target was signed on 11 October by the chiefs of the air staffs of the five nations. The momentum of the work is therefore being maintained.

    Royal Marines (Landing Assault Ships)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if, following experience gained in Exercise Bold Gannet, he will speed up the design and construction of specialised landing assault ships for the Royal Marines.

    The assault ships HMS Fearless and HMS Intrepid are planned to remain in service until the mid-1990s. However, as I said in the answer I gave to my hon. Friend yesterday, we are studying the requirement for amphibious shipping in the longer term and account will, of course, be taken of the recent exercise Bold Gannet.

    United States Bases And Facilities

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether there has been any change in the number of United States bases and facilities in the United Kingdom.

    Yes. We have agreed to make available to the United States air force some surplus hangars at RAF Hullavington and at Oakington barracks for storage purposes. Including minor facilities such as these, the number of bases and facilities which have been made available to the United States Forces is now 66.

    Environment

    Projected Housing Demand

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he proposes to issue his directive defining local authorities' duties to take account of projected housing demands; and if he will make a statement.

    On 4 July the Secretary of State issued circular 15/84, "Land for Housing", which asked local authorities to ensure an adequate and continuing supply of land for housing. The circular stressed the need for the planning system to cater effectively for the demand for private sector housing, and that there should be an adequate supply of land to meet that demand and other housing requirements.

    National Federation Of Housing Associations

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what assistance his Department has given to the National Federation of Housing Associations' inquiry into housing.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the reply which I gave to the hon. Member for Norwood (Mr. Fraser) on 31 July, at column 252.

    Private Rented Accommodation

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will take steps to encourage a significant revival of the private rented accommodation sector.

    The Government introduced various initiatives to encourage the private rented sector in the Housing Act 1980. It is now considering whether further steps should be taken to encourage landlords to meet the demand for homes to rent.

    Liverpool (Ministerial Visit)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement on his recent visit to Liverpool.

    I visited Merseyside on 19 October 1984.In the morning, I visited housing sites in Liverpool, I met the vice-chairman of Merseyside Improved Houses and I opened one of its new developments. I presented keys to some of the new tenants and planted a tree to commemorate the occasion.Then I visited the Shell oil refinery at Stanlow where I opened the new platformer III plant. This is a £50 million development designed to reduce the lead level in petrol to comply with the new standard announced by the Government to take effect from 1 January 1986.In the afternoon, I had a discussion with the officials of Merseyside task force before going to meet the vice-chancellor of the University of Liverpool, and other members of the senior acedemic and administrative staff.

    St George's Hall, Liverpool

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) what representations he has received for funding to keep St. George's hall, Liverpool, in use; and if he will make a statement;(2) what organisations have made representations to his Department concerning the future of St. George's hall, Liverpool; what replies he has sent; and if he will make a statement.

    I have received correspondence from the Merseyside Civic Society; the North West Civic Trust; the Liverpool Architectural Society; the Historic Society of Lancashire and Cheshire; the British Institute of Organ Studies; the hon. Members for Liverpool, Walton (Mr. Heffer) and for Liverpool, Mossley Hill (Mr. Alton), and from my hon. Friends the Members for Wallasey (Mrs. Chalker) for Wirral, West (Mr. Hunt) and for Wirral, South (Mr. Porter), and two interested individuals. A number of organisations have suggested that the Government should give financial assistance.The building is in the ownership of Liverpool city council and I have asked it to put forward proposals for its future use. I have received no proposals as yet, but I hope to hear from the city council shortly. I have told it that, if constructive proposals are submitted, I am prepared to consider some help under the urban programme.I am writing to correspondents this week confirming the position and responding to any more detailed points they have made.I will keep all hon. Members who have expressed an interest informed of developments.

    International Garden Festival Site

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what representations he had received concerning the use of the site of the International Garden Festival; and if he will make a statement.

    I have received a number of representations on the future of the site from local authorities, MPs, and members of the public. Many of these have requested that the festival be retained in its entirety as a permanent event. However, as I explained in my statement of 6 September, there are compelling reasons why this cannot be done. I did say that the Merseyside Development Corporation was looking into ways of making more of the site open to the public next year in addition to those substantial parts which have always been intended to be retained as a permanent facility. The MDC has since confirmed that many of these superb facilities will be open to the public next year.

    South Yorkshire (Rates)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many letters he has received from people residing in the Barnsley, Central constituency complaining about the levels of South Yorkshire county council rates.

    Wembley (Amusement Centres)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment why he overturned the unanimous decision of the borough of Brent to refuse planning permission for proposed amusement centres and a gaming licence for premises in Wembley high road.

    This planning appeal was determined not by my right hon. Friend, but by an inspector appointed by him. In allowing the appeal the inspector granted conditional planning permission only. Full reasons for his decision are set out in his letter dated 29 June 1984. I am arranging for a copy of this letter to be sent to the hon. Member.Application for a gaming licence is subject to the Gaming Act 1968 and would be a matter for my right hon. and learned Friend the Home Secretary.

    Ronan Point

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what action he has taken in respect of the representations he has received concerning changes to the draft of the Departmental inquiry report on the collapse of Ronan Point; and if he will make a statement.

    The following is the text of a letter which I sent yesterday to the hon. Member:RONAN POINT—Inquiry ReportYou have put down a Parliamentary Question for answer on Tuesday 23 October to ask what action the Secretary of State "has taken in respect of the representations he has received concerning changes to the draft of the Departmental Inquiry Report on the collapse of Ronan Point".On 12 October you wrote to the Secretary of State to ask him to look into reports in

    The Times which referred to this matter and to obtain the reaction and recollections of the members of the Tribunal of Inquiry. I understand that separately Mr. Sam Webb, acting as your research assistant, has asked on your behalf that he be given access to the working documents and other papers of the Tribunal. He has explained that he had access to these papers for some 3½ weeks in 1970.

    I am writing to you straightaway and propose to reproduce the text of this letter in answering your question.

    The Tribunal was appointed by the then Minister of Housing and Local Government, the right hon. Anthony Greenwood, MP by instruments dated 17 May and 21 May 1968 to hold a public inquiry under section 318 of the Public Health Act 1936 and section 290 of the Local Government Act 1933 with the terms of reference set out in paragraph 1 of the Tribunal's report. In accordance with the usual practice the Tribunal was assisted by a Secretary and other staff provided by the Ministry of Housing and Local Government.

    The Tribunal concluded its oral hearings on 2 August 1968; its report was signed on 14 October 1968 and was transmitted to the Minister with a letter from the Chairman, Mr. Hugh Griffiths, QC dated 14 October 1968.

    The papers of the Tribunal and the related departmental files contain no evidence that the text signed by the members of the Tribunal and its secretary, and for which the members alone were responsible, was altered between its signature, receipt by the Minister, and printing. In early working drafts of the chapter concerned there is evidence of changes on the lines suggested in The Times article but although some amendments are in manuscript as described in The Times we have been able to find no sheet containing the words "However in popular terms to make walls strong enough to resist 60 lbs sq. ft. is only to make them about as strong as the glass in a good window" deleted in a broad nibbed pen in purple ink.

    But such changes were matters for the members of the Tribunal. It would be normal for a report of this length and complexity to pass through a number of drafts containing significant variations, and I do not think that it would be fair to members of the Tribunal, or proper, to attach any particular importance to forms of words which they decided during the drafting process not to include in their report to the Minister. In any event, deletions and changes made at that stage cannot be the responsibility of a civil servant as alleged in The Times.

    The papers of the Tribunal form part of the papers of the Department and are public records for the purposes of the Public Records Acts. They have been recovered from storage in order to consider the matters raised in your Question and letter, and are now being assembled in proper order. It is unusual for access to be given to public records well within the 30-year rule, but, as there has been earlier public access to papers of the Tribunal, I have agreed that further access should be given.

    As a matter of good practice in giving access to records, it is essential that they should be properly ordered, secured and catalogued. This will be done as soon as possible. I will let you know when the papers are ready for public access.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what reports he has received from the London borough of Newham concerning the condition of Ronan Point and similar tower blocks built with the Taylor-Woodrow-Anglian system; and what action he is taking in respect of such blocks built in Newham and elsewhere.

    1. In order to understand the implications of the reports received by the London borough of Newham for Ronan Point and other large-panel blocks of flats it is necessary to take account of the events of 1968 and subsequent action by the Government and local authorities.

    Background: Events in 1968 and immediately thereafter

    2. In 1968 Ronan Point, a tower block built in the Taylor-Woodrow-Anglian system, suffered a partial collapse. The subsequent tribunal of inquiry in its report, "Collapse of Flats at Ronan Point, Canning Town" (HMSO 1968), found that an explosion of town gas blew out concrete panels forming part of the load-bearing flank wall of one flat. As a result, there was progressive collapse of the south-east corner of the block.

    3. The tribunal made a series of recommendations affecting system-built blocks of flats over six storeys in height. These included measures to strengthen Ronan Point itself; measures to appraise and, if needed, to strengthen existing buildings; and measures to be taken into account in designing new buildings. In addition, there were interim recommendations about gas disconnection.

    4. Following these recommendations the then Ministry of Housing and Local Government issued advice to local authorities in circulars 62/68 and 71/68.

    5. The advice to authorities was to appraise all their blocks over six storeys in height which were built of large pre-cast concrete panels to form load-bearing walls or floors or both in order to consider whether they were susceptible to progressive collapse. In considering whether strengthening was necessary — either by providing alternative paths of support to carry the load, assuming the removal of a critical section of the load-bearing walls or by producing a form of construction of such stiffness and continuity so as to ensure the stability of the building against forces liable to damage the load supporting members—they were to provide for forces equivalent to a standard static pressure of 5 lb per square inch (psi) where town gas was to be used. Where it was not to be used, the forces could be halved, that is, to an equivalent of 2·5 psi of standard static pressure.

    6. As far as can be ascertained, the Ministry did not ask authorities to inform it of the appraisals or specific action taken in respect of each block. It is known, however, that in many cases buildings existing at the time or under construction were strengthened only to resist forces of 2·5 psi and gas was not reconnected. Ronan Point and five similar blocks existing or under construction at the time of the explosion in 1968 were strengthened to resist pressures of 2·5 psi by the addition of mechanical connections to the joints between the flank walls and floor panels; and a structural screed was added to the floor slabs adjacent to the flank walls.

    7. The report of the inquiry (paragraph 173) warned in specific terms about the dangers of storing explosive substances such as liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) in such blocks as this warning was repeated in more general terms in paragraph 13 of circular 62/68.

    Events in 1984

    8. Following observation of small gaps at the junctions between non-load-bearing cladding panels of the facade and the floor panels in Ronan Point, the London borough of Newham decided earlier this year to evacuate the block and in March it appointed Building Design Partnership (BDP) to investigate this problem and to report on any defects and incipient or actual fabric deterioration. In April the brief was extended to include investigations of the structure of Ronan Point in its current condition with reference to structural stability, including resistance to wind, gas explosion and the effects of fire. Subsequently the council appointed a second firm of consultants, Thomas Akroyd, and retained the Building Research Establishment (BRE) to carry out dynamic tests and fire tests.

    9. In July, wide publicity was given to the results of a fire test in an empty flat by the BRE. The purpose of the fire was to test the effectiveness of a fire-stop detail designed by BRE to fill the gaps between the cladding and the floors described in paragraph 6 and to prevent the spread of flame and fumes from a flat subject to a fire to the flat above. Limits were set on the permitted movement of ceiling panels to prevent unnecessary structural damage to the flat in which the test was arranged and as a safeguard for those observing the test. These limits were reached after about 10 minutes—the fire was deliberately very severe—and the test was stopped although the severity of the fire was beginning to decline and it is unlikely that further structural deformation would have occurred. The detail proved generally satisfactory although a small quantity of fumes penetrated the upper flat.

    10. Nevertheless considerable local concern was generated by reports of the fire test and Newham council arranged for the results to be presented to a public meeting on 4 August which was attended by a representative of the Department as well as by the head of BRE's fire research station. Subsequently Newham's housing committee decided to continue the programme of tests, which was not complete, and, in response to demands that tenants of the other eight Taylor-Woodrow-Anglian blocks in the vicinity of Ronan Point should be rehoused, decided that priority should continue to be given to rehousing elderly and disabled tenants.

    11. Investigation by the consultants continued and at the end of September both BDP and Thomas Akroyd submitted reports to the council, copies of which have been made available to the Department. These reports consider the findings of the investigations to date. In particular, they have found voids in the dry-pack mortar and in situ concrete in some of the H.2 joints between the load-bearing flank walls and the floor panels. They examined the question of the likely behaviour of those joints in the context of the effects of wind, fire and explosion.

    12. Both BDP and Thomas Akroyd consider that Ronan Point is not likely to be adversely affected by anticipated wind pressures, for example, gales such as could occur once in 100 years, but could seriously be damaged by an explosion, for example, arising from the storage or use of LPG cylinders. There is no piped gas supply in Ronan Point and the five similar blocks. They also agree that there is a need for an effective fire-stop detail. BDP considers that in the event of a very severe fire in two adjoining rooms, the strengthened H.2 joint would be subject to "stress levels not previously experienced and therefore unproven". Thomas Akroyd concluded that the fire resistance of the various parts of the structure is in accordance with the structural fire resistance required for such concrete buildings.

    13. The BRE is evaluating these reports and discussing them with the consultants as a matter of urgency. Its provisional view is that the risk that progressive collapse of the building—as opposed to localised failure—could be caused by fire is remote. Nevertheless, it considers that it is necessary to investigate more fully what, if any, measures are necessary if buildings of this type are to remain in satisfactory structural condition in the longer term.

    14. The London borough of Newham, shortly after receiving the consultants' reports, decided to rehouse tenants from the five Taylor-Woodrow-Anglian blocks in Canning town of the same design as Ronan Point and three Taylor-Woodrow-Anglian blocks of the more recent revised design, over an expected period of about a year pending decisions about the long term future of the blocks and meanwhile to continue the programme of investigations and tests.

    Advice to Owners and Government Action

    15. Although difficult technical issues are involved, I am concerned that the extent of partially-informed comment on these events in recent weeks may be causing some local authorities and their tenants undue anxieties. I have considered the advice so far available to me and have decided to take the action set out in the following paragraphs.

    16. First, I do not consider that the findings at Ronan Point to date need cause other owners of blocks constructed in the same or other large panel systems to contemplate immediate rehousing of residents or that they justify conclusions on the long term future of such blocks. Each authority must of course make its own managment decision in the light of all the relevant circumstances.

    17. Second, authorities should consider urgently practical steps to prevent the use and storage of LPG cylinders or other explosive materials in:

  • (a)all blocks ove six storeys in height built of large pre-cast concrete panels to form load-bearing walls or floors, or both, not designed or strengthened to resist a standard static pressure of 5 psi (mains gas should have been disconnected from such buildings);
  • (b) any other blocks, whether of flats or houses, which do not satisfy the requirements of section D17 of the Building Regulations, which applies to buildings having five or more storeys (including basement storeys, if any).
  • The advice on blocks over six storeys essentially reiterates the advice given in the inquiry report, MHLG circular 62/68, the Home Office's Fire Prevention Guide No. 4, "The safe use and storage of liquefied petroleum gas in residential premises" (HMSO 1976) and the second annual report of the Engineering Institution's Standing Committee on Structural Safety (Chairman, Lord Penney) in 1978.

    18. The advice on other blocks is a reflection of the fact that progressive collapse could occur in certain buildings of less than seven storeys. It should be noted that in 1978 the principal suppliers of LPG advised their agents not to make cylinders of LPG available to customers in blocks of flats and maisonettes of more than four storeys whatever their form of construction. The Department has evidence that despite these warnings the use of LPG heaters by tenants is increasing.

    19. Third. the BRE is devoting and will devote whatever resources are necessary to investigate as a matter of urgency the problems highlighted at Ronan Point and to provide advice on structural appraisal and remedial measures as necessary. This will involve a significant input of resources by the BRE into the problems of large panel systems of construction. The Department intends to discuss the formulation of this programme of work with the local authority associations as soon as the immediate work by BRE on Ronan Point makes it possible.

    20. Further guidance to owners of Taylor-Woodrow-Anglian buldings will be issued in the light of BRE's evaluation of the evidence.

    21. The Department will be writing this week to inform local authorities of the action which we consider owners of dwellings of large-panel construction ought to take now, to give further details of the action which might be taken now, to give further details of the action which might be taken on LPG, and to ask for any technical reports and information which authorities may have on large-panel buildings in their ownership. A copy of the Department's letter will be placed in the Library.

    Blocks Of Flats (Management)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what progress his inquiry into the management of blocks of flats is making: and if it has considered the Freshwater Company property in Brent.

    The committee is completing the collection of evidence, and is checking that it is representative. It will then discuss its conclusions and recommendations. I expect it to report next year. The committee's task is to consider the scale and nature of management problems. It is not investigating the activities of particular landlords.

    Rates Act

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the estimated total cost of his Department's advertising campaign in support of the Rates Act.

    The estimated cost of the Rates Act advertising and leaflet is approximately £420,000.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will provide a breakdown of the nature and cost of the advertising campaign in support of the Rates Act including (a) the names of newspapers in which advertisements have been or are to be placed, with dates of insertion and size of advertisements, and their cost (b) the number of leaflets, and area of distribution, and their cost, (c) the use of other media, such as poster sites, cinema, and television and radio, and cost, (d) the name of the advertising agency and its total fee, and (e) cost of distribution.

    (a) The advertisement "Protecting the Ratepayer" was placed in the following national papers in the week beginning 1 October 1984:

    NewspaperDateSpace
    National Dailies
    The Times5 October38cm × 6 cols
    Daily Telegraph5 October38cm × 6 cols
    National Dailies (Southern Edition only)
    Daily Express4 OctoberPage
    Daily Mail4 OctoberPage
    Daily Mirror4 OctoberPage
    Daily Star4 OctoberPage
    The Sun4 OctoberPage
    The Guardian5 October38cm × 6 cols
    National Sundays (Southern Edition only)
    The Mail on Sunday7 OctoberPage
    News of the World7 OctoberPage
    Sunday Express7 October38cm × 6 cols
    Sunday Mirror7 OctoberPage
    Sunday People7 OctoberPage
    The Observer7 October38cm × 6 cols
    The Sunday Times7 October38cm × 6 cols
    During the same week the advertisement also appeared in local papers in all the areas covered by the authorities selected for rate limitation. I have placed a list of those newspapers in the Library. In addition, it has appeared in the

    The Standard on 11 and 18 October, where it will also appear on 24 October and 1 November. The total cost of the advertisement was approximately £270,000.

    (b) Leaflets were distributed to more than 4 million households in the areas of authorities selected for rate limitation. The cost of preparing and printing the leaflets was £42,140.

    (c) No other media were used.

    (d) The advertisement and leaflet were drafted within my Department. The advertisements were placed through the COI in the normal way.

    (e) The cost of distributing the leaflet was £106,490.

    Social Services

    Nhs Expenditure

    15.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what representations he has received concerning cuts in National Health Service expenditure in (a) Liverpool and (b) Merseyside at the most recent date.

    There have been no specific representations on Merseyside generally in the last three months.

    Greater Manchester (Health Services)

    18.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he is satisfied with the level and quality of health service provision in Greater Manchester.

    North Western region has consistently received above average growth under this administration. The regional health authority has made great strides to translate this into real patient benefits, not just for people in Greater Manchester but for the whole north-west. The next few months will see publication of new plans to continue this development, particularly in north-western districts which have historically been relatively deprived.

    Community Care (Cost)

    19.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his Department's latest estimate of the cost of providing care in the community in place of long stay hospitals.

    The cost of providing care in the community for people moving out of long-stay hospitals can vary considerably depending on individual needs and the service developments required locally to meet those needs. The Department cannot therefore make a meaningful estimate of such costs or how they may compare with costs in long-stay hospitals.

    Housing Benefit (Overseas Students)

    20.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will place in the Library copies of any guidance to local authorities on the payment of housing benefit to overseas students.

    Copies of the relevant circular, HB(84)5, have already been placed in the Library.

    Supplementary Benefit Claimants (Earnings Limit)

    21.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he now has any plans to raise the £4 earnings limit for those in receipt of supplementary benefit.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will take steps to amend the "S" manual instructions to benefit officers advising them to apply the trades disputes rules to supplementary benefit claimants who are registering sick; and if he will make a statement.

    The interpretation of the law, and guidance on its interpretation to adjudication officers contained in the "S" manual, is a matter for the independent adjudication authorities.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether any person unfit for work by virtue of sickness is entitled, subject to his circumstances, to supplementary benefit without the application of availability tests irrespective of whether or not he is involved in a trades dispute.

    Under regulation 6(c) of the Supplementary Benefit (Condition of Entitlement) Regulations a person who is unfit for work by virtue of sickness is not required to be available for employment.

    Civil Defence

    22.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what drugs and medical equipment and supplies will be made available for issue to community first-aid posts in a war or other national emergency.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Ilford, South (Mr. Thorne) on 15 November 1983, at columns 426–27, when I said that the present advice relating to first-aid posts, which in the main would be manned by first aiders, is that they would be supplied with equipment with which staff are familiar and which they have been trained to use.

    Hammersmith Hospital

    23.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he is satisfied with the standard of patient care provided at Hammersmith hospital.

    We are confident that patient care generally at the Hammersmith hospital is of a very high standard. I understand the special health authority has written to the hon. Member about a specific case he raised with it.

    Hip Replacement Operations

    24.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many hip replacement operations were performed during the year 1983.

    During 1982, the latest year for which information is available centrally, there were an estimated 33,730 hip replacement operations performed in National Health Service hospitals in England.

    Drugs Advisory Council (Report)

    25.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the Government's response to the recommendations of the 1982 Drugs Advisory Council report.

    I refer the hon. Member to my reply of 19 July, at column 334, to the hon. Member for Oldham, West (Mr. Meacher). My right hon. and learned Friend has since announced on 10 October that my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State intends to commit £5 million more in 1985–86 to further expanding efforts in prevention, treatment and rehabilitation.

    Merseyside (Mental Health Services)

    26.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he is satisfied with mental health provision in Merseyside.

    Mental health provision has a very high priority throughout the country. Changes need to be made to meet significant changes in the perception of the most appropriate care for patients. We are satisfied that Mersey regional health authority is giving those necessary changes a very high priority. Mental health provision was a major subject for discussion at the Mersey regional review on 26 September and a copy of the action plan agreed for 1984–85 has been placed in the Libraries of both Houses.

    Dentists

    27.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what arrangements are made for accounting for sums received by dentists from National Health Service patients when the treatment is less than £14·50 and in consequence is not included in estimates forms submitted.

    Dentists are required by their terms of service to complete an estimate form for every patient they accept for NHS treatment, to include on that form the whole of the treatment necessary in their opinion to make the patient dentally fit—unless the patient has been accepted for occasional treatment only—and to send that form to the Dental Estimates Board. Dentists are also required to give every patient they accept for NHS treatment — except those accepted for occasional treatment only—an acceptance form and a receipt for any NHS charges paid. They are also required to keep a record of the treatment provided, and these records must be produced or sent to the Dental Estimates Board, the family practitioner committee or a dental officer of our Department on request. Any dentist who fails to complete an estimate form accurately is therefore in breach of his terms of service. Any discrepancies which suggested that a breach of the terms of service might have occurred can be referred by the Dental Estimates Board or the family practitioner committee for service committee action which could lead to financial or other sanctions.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list in the Official Report the headings under which a dentist may claim expenses other than those incurred for staff salaries, premises and equipment.

    Dentists cannot claim expenses directly under the NHS. The NHS scale of fees is calculated to meet the average expenses incurred by dentists in treating NHS patients. That average is calculated on the basis of information obtained from the Inland Revenue. The expenses concerned are all those allowable for tax purposes by the Inland Revenue except for superannuation contributions.

    St Thomas's Hospital

    29.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether the installation of the lithotripter at St. Thomas's hospital and the associated increase in the use of hospital beds will lead to a decrease of beds available for other hospital services; and whether such an increase due to the installation of the lithotripter will come from the general allocation for St. Thomas's hospital.

    Patients using the lithotripter service will be treated within the general allocation of urology beds in St. Thomas's hospital. The lithotripter will not lead to an increase in the number of urology beds at the expense of other services.

    Death Grant

    28.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will now make a statement on proposals to increase the death grant.

    We have been continuing to give consideration to our policy towards the death grant in the light of the response to the consultative document published in March 1982, which revealed no clear public consensus. This consideration will now be conducted as part of formulating wider Government proposals for social security in the context of the major reviews currently in progress.

    Preglandin

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if the Committee on Safety of Medicines has had a request to approve the distribution of the medicine Preglandin in the United Kingdom.

    Information about applications for licences to market medicinal products in the United Kingdom is confidential as it could be of commercial value. I should however explain that Preglandin is the brand name in a number of countries of evening primrose oil. This preparation is sold in the United Kingdom as a dietary supplement. As it is not a medicinal product it does not need to be licensed under the Medicines Act 1968.

    Nhs (Land And Property Sales)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how much National Health Service land and property was sold in each year from 1976 to date.

    Following is the information requested in respect of the NHS in England:

    Year endingAcres sold
    31 March 1976300
    31 March 1977387
    31 March 1978489
    31 March 1979626
    31 March 1980375
    31 March 19811,031
    31 March 19821,199
    31 March 1983551
    31 March 1984850*
    * Provisional figure
    We are not able to point to a reason for the fluctuations between 1980 and 1981, and 1982 and 1983. It has to be borne in mind that land and property transactions tend to move slowly and one large transaction can substantially affect a years figures. It is unwise therefore to read too much into the figures for any one year in isolation.

    Nhs Staff

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many staff were employed in National Health Service hospitals at the end of March; and what was the breakdown between the following categories: medical and dental, nurses and midwives, professional and technical, administrative and clerical and domestic and ancillary.

    I regret that the information requested for staff in NHS hospitals in England, separate from those working in the community, is not available. However, I have placed in the Library a table showing total NHS staff directly employed at 31 March 1984 in England split into staff groups as required.

    Depo Provera

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will write to the consultant obstetricians in charge of all maternity units advising caution in the use of Depo Provera post-partum and in the first six weeks of breast feeding;(2) if he will ensure that any leaflets produced by his Department about contraceptive methods state that Depo Provera is a method of last resort, should be used with caution in the post-partum period and not for at least six weeks of breast feeding.

    A revised data sheet on Depo Provera has been published following the issue of the product licence for long-term contraceptive use on 30 July 1984 and this will be made available to all doctors in the United Kingdom including consultant obstetricians. It says that Depo Provera is intended for long-term use only in women for whom other contraceptives are contraindicated or have caused unacceptable side effects or are otherwise unsatisfactory. The data sheet also states that because of the risk of heavy or prolonged bleeding in some women, the drug should be used with caution in the puerperium and that if the puerperal woman will be breast feeding, the initial injection of Depo Provera should be delayed until six weeks post-partum. The product has not yet been marketed for long-term contraceptive use. When it is, advice on the use, contra-indications, warnings, precautions and side effects will be included in the literature sent to doctors with the product. At that time, the chief medical officer of each of the Health Departments will write to doctors to emphasise that Depo Provera is licensed only for use where no other contraceptive method is suitable and to underline the importance of patient counselling and informed consent. We are discussing with the manufacturer the content of an information leaflet for patients which will stress these points and emphasise the need for caution. Copies of the leaflet will then be supplied by the company to doctors for issue to patients.

    Sickness Benefit

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what restrictions he imposes on the entitlement to sickness benefit for those who were, prior to their sickness, involved in a trades dispute; and if he will make a statement.

    Questions on entitlement to sickness benefit are determined by the independent adjudication officers, under the terms of the Social Security Act 1975.

    Nhs Staff (Residential Places)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) how many staff residential places there were in the ownership of the North East Thames regional health authority; what plans he or that authority has for the disposal of such places; and if he will state the location and number of units on each site he considers surplus to future requirements;(2) what properties rented in the North East Thames Health Authority he considers are surplus to their requirements; and if he will estimate their respective values.

    The information requested is not centrally available. The hon. Member may wish to approach the North East Thames regional health authority for this information.

    Nhs (Ancillary Services)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will enumerate the instances of contracts for ancillary services within the National Health Service that have been terminated and resort made to the use of its own workers, in each of the district health authorities in England, since privatisation of ancillary services was started.

    Health authorities have always made use of contractors for some parts of ancillary services. They do not have to inform the Department if they change from a contractor to an in-house service, and we do not collect centrally information of the kind requested.

    Child Care Law

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether his working party on child care law intends to take evidence from parents and children who have been involved in the current system of child care law.

    The working party has started its work on the basis of the report on children in care of the social services committee and the evidence given to it. It expects to seek some further help during the course of the review from knowledgeable practitioners and from groups, including those representing the interests of parents and children. On receipt of its report Ministers will wish to consult widely before decisions are taken. Interested bodies and individuals should write to Mr. R. Chapman, the secretary to the working party on child care law, DHSS, Alexander Fleming House, Elephant and Castle, London SE1 6BY.

    Cot Deaths

    asked the Secretary of State for social Services (1) what is the proposed publication date for the report on cot deaths, the research for which was carried out between 1976 and 1979;(2) whether, following studies into the cause of cot deaths carried out in Gosport, he will promote a wider study of the subject based on the Gosport experience.

    The Department does not expect to receive the final report of the multi-centre study of post-neonatal mortality, which has been co-ordinated by the medical care research unit at Sheffield university, until the end of November. Arrangements for making the report available to all interested parties are currently under consideration. We will then be able to decide, in the light of both that report and the experiment at Gosport, how best to promote any effective programmes of preventive action, and any further studies into possible causes of hitherto unexplained "cot deaths".

    Social Security Expenditure

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the total spend on social security each year since 1960 both in current price terms and at 1984 prices; and what were each of these totals as a percentage of total Government spend and of gross domestic product for each of these years.

    The figures in the table are derived from the 1984 National Income and Expenditure "Blue Book" for the years 1973–1983; from the 1973 Blue Book for the years 1962–1972 and from the 1971 Blue book for the first two years. The first two columns relate to expenditure in the United Kingdom on social security benefits as defined for the respective Blue Books; the conversion to constant prices has been made using the retail price index.

    United Kingdom
    YearSocial Security benefit payments
    CashAt 1984 pricesAs proportion of all central Government expenditureAs proportion of Gross Domestic Product at market prices
    £ million£ millionper cent.per cent.
    19601,41210,11520½
    19611,54910,72620½
    19621,65611,00521
    19631,89612,35122½6
    19641,99312,57122½6
    19652,29913,84123½
    19662,45914,24623
    19672,76915,65322½7
    19683,19417,24623½
    19693,41217,47223½
    19703,73717,98923½
    19714,09518,012237
    19724,87020,00624
    19735,26519–80922½7
    19746,49721,06322
    19758,41621,966218
    197610,58823,7102
    197712,53724,23623½
    197815,08426,933259
    197917,68027,834259
    198021,17428,25824½9
    198126,22831,2862620½
    198230,62833,64127½11
    198332,26733m88126½10½

    Nurses And Midwives (Pay)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the last date for submitting evidence to the Review Body on Nurses and Midwives pay.

    This is a matter for the review body itself, but I am not aware that it has sent a final date for receiving evidence relative to its next review.

    Nhs (Managerial Posts)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many nurses have been appointed to the new managerial posts established in the National Health Service as a consequence of the Griffiths report.

    One of the 11 regional general managers appointed so far is a nurse.

    Hearing Aid Batteries

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will estimate the saving which will accrue to the National Health Service by replacing 675 hearing-aid batteries by double life CP101 batteries.

    Zinc-air batteries of type CP101 are not suitable for all types of hearing aid but it is estimated that they can meet almost two-thirds of the Department's requirements. On this basis the annual savings from their use will be about £240,000 at current prices.

    North-West Thames Regional Health Authority

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will publish in the Official Report the number of clinics, day centres and residential units, together with the number and grades of trained staff employed in each, within the North-West Thames regional health authority;(2) how many persons in what posts and grades are employed in hospital audiological departments within the North-West Thames regional health authority.

    The information requested is not available centrally. The hon. Member may wish to contact the North-West Thames regional health authority for the information he requires.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many houses and flats are now being considered for disposal by the North-West Thames regional health authority; and if he will publish in the Official Report a table showing the proposals for each district authority within the region.

    The information requested is not available centrally. The hon. Member may wish to contact the North-West Thames regional health authority for the information he requires.

    Oncology Nursing Society (Conference)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if the Minister of Health visited the annual conference of the Royal College of Nursing Oncology Nursing Society held from 28 to 30 September.

    Nhs (Performance Indicators)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the introduction of performance indicators into the National Health Service.

    Performance indicators covering a range of Health Service activities and costs were published in September 1983 and are now in use by health authorities. Copies of the national and regional summaries have been placed in the Library. In July 1983 we set up a joint NHS-DHSS group to advise on the further development and use of performance inicators and we expect to receive their report later this year, including their recommendations for publishing an improved set of indicators in 1985.

    Cyclotron Machines

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if, in addition to replacing the low energy cyclotron machine for treatment of tumours at Hammersmith hospital, he will now authorise the installation of high energy cyclotron either at Hammersmith or within one of the regions in the south of England;(2) how many hospitals will be equipped with high energy cyclotrons capable of dealing with deep-seated tumours.

    It is important that such a potentially significant development should receive proper evaluation before health service funds are committed to it. The Medical Research Council is funding a progamme of clinical studies on the new cyclotron unit at Clatterbridge hospital in the Wirral. Research is also continuing internationally. Further consideration of the siting of a high energy cyclotron elsewhere must await the outcome of this research.

    Nhs (Low Energy Neutron Therapy)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will now make available low energy neutron therapy for surface tumours as a routine service within National Health Service hospitals.

    It is important that such a potentially significant development should receive proper evaluation before health service funds are committed to it. A Medical Research Council working party has already undertaken an evaluation and and comparison of the data from the trials of the cyclotron at Edinburgh and Hammersmith and its report should be available soon. Further consideration of more widespread use of low energy neutron therapy must await this Report.

    Dental Treatment (Children)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when his proposed pilot study into the feasibility of a capitation scheme for the dental treatment of children will commence; and if he will make a statement.

    The pilot study began on 1 October. It involves 50 dentists and will last one year. This will pave the way for a larger, experimental trial to look at the effects of the new system of payment on the sort of work dentists do and on the dental health of their patients. In the light of the outcome of the trial, we will consider whether the new system of payments should be introduced generally.

    Nurse Teachers (Redundancies)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services why the expenditure on nurse education was cut by 4·85 per cent. in one year; how many nurse teachers were made redundant; and if he will make a statement.

    We have made adjustments to the funding of nurse training in the last two years in line with our judgment of the needs of nursing education and the Government's overall wish to contain the level of public expenditure. Last week I met representatives of the English National Board for Nursing, Midwifery and Health Visiting, the body responsible for the provision of nurse education and training in England. At that meeting there was a full discussion of the needs of nurse education and we will continue to give careful consideration to the level of funding required.I understand that there have been no redundancies among nurse teachers since the English national board assumed its responsibilities on 1 July 1983.

    Kidney Patients (Treatment)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many people with renal failure are now awaiting either dialysis or transplant in the area of each regional health authority; what steps he is taking to reduce the number of people who die from renal failure before receiving treatment; and if he will make a statement.

    The numbers of patients reported to the United Kingdom transplant service as awaiting a kidney transplant on 15 October 1984 are as follows:

    RegionNumber on waiting list
    Northern241
    Yorkshire91
    Trent170
    East Anglian56
    North West Thames141
    North East Thames333
    South East Thames368
    South West Thames
    Wessex99
    Oxford89
    South Western135
    West Midlands160
    Mersey90
    North Western151
    In February my right hon. Friend launched a new campaign to publicise the benefits of kidney transplantation and to promote the organ donor card scheme. During the first six months of the campaign 40 per cent. more transplants were performed than in the equivalent period last year. The 1983 annual total of 1,160, which was itself a record, was passed earlier this month.The numbers of patients awaiting treatment by dialysis are not recorded centrally.According to data supplied by the European Dialysis and Transplant Association, the number of new renal patients accepted for treatment in the United Kingdom in 1983 was 1,846, a 50 per cent. increase on 1979. The Government have informed health authorities of the need for services for the treatment of end stage renal failure to be developed, and we are now discussing with them the setting of specific targets to ensure that the expansion of renal service provision continues.

    Tobacco Advertising

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will seek at the World Health Organisation to stem the advertising and promotion of cigarettes and tobacco products in developing countries.

    The major hazards to health of smoking are now generally known and acknowledged all over the world. We make our own experience and advice freely available to other countries on request and through such bodies as the World Health Organisation, which is already urging the Governments of developing countries to take urgent action to control smoking. Ultimately, however, it is for the Government of each country to decide on appropriate action to alert their citizens to the hazards of smoking and to introduce such restrictions on the advertising and promotion of cigarettes and tobacco products as they think fit.

    Health Authorities (Chairmen And Vice-Chairmen)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish a table in the Official Report showing the remuneration and expenses now current for chairmen, vice-chairmen and members of regional and district health authorities.

    No remuneration as such is paid to chairmen, vice-chairmen or members of health authorities. Regional and district chairmen do, however, receive an honorarium, currently £8,424 a year. The conditions under which expenses may be claimed and the current rates payable are set out in the National Health Service and English and Welsh National Boards for Nursing, Midwifery and Health Visiting (Travelling Allowances etc.) Determination 1983, a copy of which has been placed in the Library.

    Private Health Care

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list in the Official Report his recommended scale of charges to be made by consultants providing services to private health care establishments under section 58 of the National Health Service Act 1977.

    Section 58 of the 1977 Act empowers health authorities to make NHS accommodation and services available to independent health care bodies. Charges are for local determination and should normally cover the full cost to the NHS of providing the facilities. Consultants may negotiate separately with, and obtain fees from, a third party, or a sessional assessment may be made within the consultant's NHS contract.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the total cost to the National Health Service in each year since 1974–75 of National Health Service acute patients treated by private hospitals.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on his responsibility for standards of care in private hospitals including the adequacy and availability of radiological pathology facilities.

    District health authorities are responsible for the registration and inspection of private nursing homes and hospitals. We have recently strengthened the powers of health authorities by the provisions of the Health and Social Services and Social Security Adjudication Act 1984 and published new regulations which will corn into effect on 1 January 1985. The legislation requires authorities to be satisfied with the adequacy of facilities and services provided in individual establishments, having regard to their size and the number, age, sex and condition of their patients.

    Hospital Meals (Privatisation)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what action he is taking to ensure that, in his plans to privatise the hospital meals service, there is no danger to patients' health; and if he will make a statement.

    Our circular HC(83)18 on competitive tendering for NHS support services issued in Sepember 1983, advised health authorities on how to ensure that standards are maintained by confirming the suitability and competence of contractors asked to tender, by specifying clearly the tasks to be undertaken, and by monitoring closely the contractors' performance.The specimen contract documents for health service catering, which we distributed to authorities in November 1983 under cover of DA(83)40, contain extensive provisions to ensure that catering contractors adhere to the very high standards required in hospitals. Copies of the circlar and the specimen contract have been placed in the Library.

    Disabled Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will reconsider his policy to the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons (Amendment) Bill; and if he will make a statement;(2) if he will make a statement on Government policy towards discrimination against disabled people.

    The Government have had no cause to change the approach on these matters which I outlined during the Bill's Second Reading Debate on 18 November 1983, at columns 1121–33.

    Invalidity Pension

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what action he has taken to ensure an increased take-up of non-contributory invalidity pension and higher non-contributory invalidity pension prior to the introduction of the severe disablement allowance; and if he will make a statement.

    In order to ensure maximum take-up of both severe disablement allowance and non-contributory invalidity pension (including housewives' noncontributory invalidity pension), we have mounted a £400,000 advertising campaign utilising the national newspapers and magazines and specialist, professional and disabled people's media. As a direct result of this campaign we have already received over 30,000 requests for leaflets and claim forms.In addition, as the hon. Member will be aware from my reply to him on 21 June, at column

    241, we have carried out a special exercise to invite claims from those currently drawing supplementary benefit who appear to have

    underlying title to non-contributory invalidity pension. As at 25 September some 52,000 invitations had been issued, and 28,200 claims had been received, of which 14,300 have so far resulted in awards of benefit.

    Overall, new claims for non-contributory invalidity pension and housewives' non-contributory invalidity pension are currently running at over four times the number received for the corresponding period last year.

    Coal Industry Dispute

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will now restore the payments of £15 per week to each striker in the coal mining industry now that the courts have declared it not to be a bona fide trade dispute.

    The deduction of £15 from any supplementary benefit payable to a person involved in a trade dispute is required by section 6 of the Social Security (No. 2) Act 1980. Neither that Act nor the Social Security Act 1975, where the term "trade dispute" is defined, distinguishes between disputes which are official or unofficial or, indeed, lawful or unlawful.

    Hospital Waiting Lists

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will describe the process followed by his Department in validating hospital waiting list returns from health authorities;(2) whether the process of validating hospital waiting list returns has been extended or changed in any way since 1979;(3) whether the process of validating hospital waiting list returns resulted in returns being changed for any authorities or for national or regional totals; and by how much in each of the six-monthly lists issued since May 1979.

    The central validation process is as follows.

    A record is kept of all district waiting list returns received and reminders are sent to district health authorities to ensure that there are no outstanding returns. Each return is first checked for internal consistency and arithmetic erors. Each entry on the return is then compared with the corresponding entry on the previous two returns—that is, six months and one year earlier—and where large differences occur health authorities are asked to check the figures. No changes are made centrally except in response to any amendments received from health authorities and it is not always possible to tell whether these amendments are made as a result of a central request to check the figures or for local reasons. Regional and national summaries are issued only when district amendments have been incorporated. This process of central validation has remained unchanged since the district waiting list return was introduced in 1975.

    Nhs (Patient Statistics)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what changes have been made in the compilation by health authorities of lists of patients treated whether inpatients, outpatients or day patients since May 1979; and what changes have been made in the process of validation by his Department.

    There has been no change in the compilation or validation of our annual hospital statistical return since 1979 when the returns were computerised centrally.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the average length of stay by inpatients in the National Health Service in each year since 1979–80.

    The information for acute inpatients is given in the table.

    Acute* Sector, NHS hospitals—England
    YearLength of stay in days
    19799·3
    19808·8
    19818·6
    19828·6
    19838·1
    *"Acute" is defined as all specialties other than geriatrics, units for younger disabled, obstetrics and GP maternity, mental illness and mental handicap.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the average rate of return to inpatient treatment of inpatients discharged by the National Health Service in each year since 1979–80.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many inpatients, outpatients and day patients were treated in the National Health Service in each year since 1974–75, shown in actual numbers and as a percentage increase on each preceding year.

    The information requested is given in the table.

    Patients treated in the National Health Service 1974–1983, England
    YearInpatient discharges and deathsPercentage changeDay case attendancesPercentage changeNew outpatient attendancesPercentage change
    (thousands)(thousands)(thousands)
    19745,1724527,825
    19754,976-3·8422-6·76,926-11·5
    19765,255+5·6481+14·07,498+8·3
    19775,345+1·7536+11·67,612+1·5
    19785,370+0·5562+4·87,712+1·3
    19795,400+0·6592+5·37,713+0·02
    19805,670+5·0671+13·37,942+3·0
    19815,760+1·6714+6·48,025+1·0
    19825,720-0·7706-1·08,097+0·9
    19836,019+5·2813+15·18,311+2·6

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many of the patients listed as treated in the National Health Service in each year since 1974–75 received acute treatment in private hospitals as a charge on the National Health Service.

    Community Care

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether the resources allocation working party formula for capital allocations reflects the cost of replacing large long-stay institutions in outer London as part of the move to community care.

    No. The RAWP formula does not specifically take account of the cost of replacing obsolete buildings.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what increase in joint finance allocations to inner London health districts and all Greater London health districts, respectively, in 1985–86, 1986–87 and 1987–88 he estimates will be required to promote the closure of old long-stay institutions and the development of community care.

    No such estimates have been made centrally. Joint finance allocations are not linked to specific projects, but health authorities are encouraged to use the funds to develop community care.

    Capital Allocations

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether the resources allocation working party formula for capital allocations is to be adjusted in the light of the state of the capital stock revealed in the Rayner report on National Health Service property.

    No. A recent DHSS/NHS review of the RAWP formula for capital allocations recommended that the capital stock element of the formula should be phased out, and this recommendation is being implemented.

    Health Authorities (Joint Finance)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services on what basis he decided to reduce the cash increase in joint finance to inner London health districts from 7·2 per cent. in 1983–84 to 0·8 per cent. in 1984–85, and for all Greater London health districts from 8·1 per cent. to 1·9 per cent.

    It is for regional health authorities to decide the allocations of joint finance funds to health districts. The Department allocates funds to regional health authorities. In 1984–85 joint finance allocations to the four Thames regions were 4·2 per cent. higher than in 1983–84.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he has advised health authorities to devote joint finance to continue projects likely to be affected by reductions in social services spending following rate capping.

    No. Decisions to fund individual projects are made by district health authorities.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will instruct regional health authorities to make specific allowance for social deprivation when allocating joint finance between districts.

    No. It is for regional health authorities to determine whether, and if so to what extent, account is taken of social deprivation in distributing joint finance allocations to health districts.

    Rates Acts (Penalties)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services why current spending on joint finance by local authorities is not exempt from penalties under the Rates Acts.

    The Rates Act 1984 provides for my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment to set an expenditure level for each local authority designated for rates limitation in 1985–86. These levels were announced in July, and were set on general principles. The Act provides for authorities to apply to the Secretary of State for a redetermination of their expenditure level after consideration of their individual circumstances; it would be open to authorities to include any consequences of joint finance schemes in their representations when making such an application.

    Binder Hamlyn Report

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when his Department commissioned the Binder Hamlyn report; what were its terms of reference; when he received it; and when it will be published.

    We asked Binder Hamlyn for its advice in October 1982 and received it in July 1983. The terms of reference given to the firm were

    "to examine and review the arrangements for forecasting and control of expendture on the Family Practitioner Services including the possibility of operating a cash limit on part or all of the expenditure either separately or in conjunction with the hospital and community health services, and to make recommendations compatible with the contractual status of the professions, the structure of the health services and the present nature and extent of the clinical services provided."
    We have been studying Binder Hamlyn's report in the context of a number of other major issues which need to be considered in relationship to the development of primary health care. We intend to publish a Green Paper about future primary health care needs and may publish the Binder Hamlyn report at the same time.

    Drug Addicts

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what progress the National Health Service is making in providing in each health district appropriate facilities for drug addicts.

    As indicated in my right hon. Friend's reply on 6 June at column 200, to my hon. Friend the Member for Castle Point (Sir B. Braine), we have required health authorities to take early action and in particular to review the prevalence of drug misuse locally and to report to Ministers by 22 December on their plans to improve services for drug misusers. We have not yet received the first reports.

    Perinatal And Neonatal Mortality

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he expects to reply to the Social Services Committee's Third Report on perinatal and neonatal mortality.

    The Government's reply is published today. Like the Social Services Committee, we welcome the substantial fall in perinatal mortality there has been since the Committee's previous report on this subject—a reduction in England from 14·6 perinatal deaths per 1,000 births in 1979 to 10·3 in 1983.Differences in mortality rates remain between regions and broad social classes, and we share the Committee's concern that these should be further reduced. In the Government's view this is best tackled by the regional and district health authorities concerned reviewing critically existing arrangements for the delivery of all aspects of maternity and neonatal care, and comparing their practice with the standards for good practice put forward by the Maternity Services Advisory Committee. That Committee has already produced two reports—on antenatal and on intrapartum care — which we have commended and distributed widely to the NHS. It is currently considering post natal care of mothers and care of the newborn, its report on which should be completed around the end of he year.The Social Services Committee argues for additional resources to be diverted to improving provision for neonatal intensive care and maternity services generally in areas of social deprivation. It is for health authorities to consider these recommendations in the first instance, in the light of their reviews of current provision and their local circumstances. The Government are not convinced, however, that extra cash for the maternity and neonatal services is necessarily the answer. The experience of the last five years with a substantial decline in perinatal mortality rates, suggests that a great deal can be done by better deployment of the staff and resources already available to reach mothers and babies who may be at risk.The Government's reply gives detailed responses to the 22 individual recommendations aimed at the Government by the Department, as well as a general commentary on the Committee's report. Those recommendations aimed directly at the NHS or bodies representative of the health professions will be referred to health authorities and those bodies for their consideration.