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Volume 65: debated on Wednesday 24 October 1984

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Written Answers To Questions

Wednesday 24 October 1984

Wales

Health Authorities (Doctors)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many doctors will be appointed as (a) unit representatives and (b) general managers in each of the health authorities in Wales; what will be the remuneration to individual doctors appointed; and what will be the total annual cost to each health authority.

My right hon. Friend expects each of the 40 health management units in Wales to have a unit medical representative. It is not possible to say at this stage how many clinicians in Wales will be appointed to act as general managers.Health authorities have been asked to submit by 30 November 1984 proposals for implementing the general management function at district level in accordance with

Number of blind and partially sighted children educated in maintained schools in Wales*
(a) Blind children Type of education(b) Partially sighted children Type of education
Local Education AuthoritySpecial schoolsSpecial classes in ordinary schoolsOrdinary classes in ordinary schoolsSpecial schoolsSpecial classes in ordinary schoolsOrdinary classes in ordinary schools
Clwyd0000742
Dyfed04001359
Gwent10001060
Gwynedd2012136
Mid Glamorgan270040480
Powys0013112
South Glamorgan2000190
West Glamorgan00002531
WALES32424580320
* Full-time pupils in special schools at September 1982; full-time and part-time pupils in other primary and secondary schools at January 1983:
Mid Glamorgan has the only special school in Wales which provides specifically for blind and partially sighted children. Such children from other LEA areas in Wales who need to attend a special school attend this school or schools in England.

Hospitals

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will list by health authority all hospitals which have (a) closed and (b) opened, indicating the numbers of beds involved, for each of the past five years.

Openings
Health AuthorityYearHospitalBed Numbers
Ysbyty Glan Clwyd
Clwyd1980Bodelwyddan399
1984Mold Community Hospital40
East Dyfed
Mid Glamorgan
South Glamorgan

the guidance in Welsh Office circular WHC(84)15, a copy of which is in the Library. Timetables for implementation in individual units will be set during 1985.

A "without prejudice" offer has been made to the medical profession as to interim terms and conditions, including the maximum fee or allowance payable, for a consultant or general practitioner in Wales acting as a general manager or undertaking agreed general management duties as a unit medical representative. A response to this offer is awaited, but the profession has formally accepted an offer which is identical in substance and which has been made in respect of clinicians undertaking general management duties in England.

Health authorities are required to meet any costs of implementing the general management function from offsetting savings elsewhere in their management budgets and without detriment to direct patient care.

Blind And Partially Sighted Children (Education)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what are the numbers of (a) blind and (b) partially sighted children being educated in (i) special schools and (ii) ordinary schools in each of the local education authority areas in Wales.

The hospitals which have opened or closed in Wales, for each district health authority, over the past five years are as follows:

Health Authority

Year

Hospital

Bed Numbers

West Glamorgan
Gwent
Gwynedd1984Ysbyty Gwynedd530
Pembrokeshhire
All the above new hospitals built on greenfield sites. Additionally there have been major extensions and redevelopment to many existing hospitals.

Closures

Clwyd1980Llangwyfan Prince Edward War210
1980Memorial, Rhyl31
1980Bron-y-Nant25
East Dyfed
Mid Glamorgan1983Cefn Mably112
South Glamorgan
West Glamorgan1981St James' Annexe Swansea12
Gwent1980Blaenavon12
1980Snatchwood25
Gwynedd1980Gors, Holyhead Caernarfon and Anglesey17
1984Hospital, Bangor193
1984 Minffordd (future re-opening possible)37
Pembrokeshire
Powys

All the above facilities have been re-located in new or redeveloped hospitals.

Education And Science

Hm Inspectorate Of Schools

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) what proportion of Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Schools was educated at the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge;(2) what proportion of Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Schools was educated at private or direct grant schools, rather than in the maintained sector;(3) what proportion of Her Majesty's Inspectorate has taught in the private sector of education;(4) how many present members of Her Majesty's Inspectorate were appointed to it at a time when they were not directly employed as teachers in schools or further education colleges in the maintained sector.

Special SchoolsMaintained Primary and Secondary Schools
Local education authorityNumber of pupils who are blindNumber of pupils who have partial sightNumber of pupils who are blind*Number of pupils who have partial sight*
Barking11
Barnet33
Bexley1
Brent224
Bromley2
Croydon412
Ealing12
Enfield4
Haringey2
Harrow13
Havering13
Hillingdon1313
Hounslow511
Kingston-upon-Thames3
Merton
Newham228
Redbridge12
Richmond-upon-Thames114
Sutton2
Waltham Forest9945
Inner London1132773100
Birmingham6817219

The Department does not maintain statistical records of the education and previous employment background of its employees. The information requested could be provided only at disproportionate cost.

Blind And Partially Sighted Children (Education)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what are the numbers of (a) blind and (b) partially-sighted children being educated in (i) special schools and (ii) ordinary schools in each of the local education authority areas in England.

Special Schools

Maintained Primary and Secondary Sciwols

Local education authority

Number of pupils who are blind

Number of pupils who have partial sight

Number of pupils who are blind*

Number of pupils who have partial sight*

Coventry17
Dudley8
Sandwell5114
Solihull4
Walsall17
Wolverhampton332
Knowsley3
Liverpool12012012
St. Helens32
Sefton1826
Wirral1111
Bolton6
Bury7
Manchester264220
Oldham3016
Rochdale23
Salford154
Stockport12
Tameside7
Trafford523
Wigan1
Barnsley17
Doncaster111
Rotherham6230
Sheffield4911429
Bradford6612
Calderdale3
Kirklees213
Leeds7851
Wakefield220
Gateshead310
Newcastle upon Tyne2720127
North Tyneside16
South Tyneside33
Sunderland93
Isles of Scilly
Avon83026
Bedfordshire1125
Berkshire11152
Buckinghamshire21237
Cambridgeshire47437
Cheshire740
Cleveland828
Cornwall137
Cumbria2118
Derbyshire56321
Devon4010518
Dorset1113
Durham1137
East Sussex9113
Essex3938
Gloucestershire13416
Hampshire35315
Hereford & Worcester791115
Hertfordshire719347
Humberside1831
Isle of Wight2110
Kent723228
Lancashire3112228
Leicestershire1641110
Lincolnshire10
Norfolk3917
North Yorkshire39715
Northamptonshire19722
Northumberland7
Nottinghamshire443
Oxfordshire2321
Shropshire10013
Somerset118
Staffordshire1130
Suffolk10
Surrey11
Warwickshire3823110
West Sussex14117

Special Schools

Maintained Primary and Secondary Schools

Local education authority

Number of pupils who are blind

Number of pupils who have partial sight

Number of pupils who are blind*

Number of pupils who have partial sight*

Wiltshire32127
England9961,674831,529
The pupils included above are classified by their major handicap.

* Including some part-time pupils.

Including non-maintained special schools, and blind and partially sighted pupils in special schools for other handicaps.

Teachers (In-Service Training)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what action he proposes to take on the recommendation of the Advisory Committee on the Supply and Education of Teachers that there should be increases in the funding of in-service training courses for teachers; and if he will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend has invited interested organisations to comment by 7 November on the advisory committee's recent report on in-service training for school teachers. He has identified a number of issues, including the funding of in-service training, to which he hopes the responses will give particular attention. My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State, with my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Wales, will aim to reach decisions as soon as possible after consultations have been completed.

Polytechnics (Degrees)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what action he is taking to ensure that employers are better informed about the value of degrees obtained at polytechnics; and if he will make a statement.

The Government urge the closest possible contact between polytechnics and employers in part to ensure that the courses offered are relevant to employers' needs. Employers should be aware that polytechnic students' degrees are awarded by the Council for National Academic Awards whose charter requires their degrees to be comparable with those of universities.

Open University

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will undertake to maintain the Open University at its present level of courses; and if he will make a statement.

It is for the Open University to decide on the number of courses it maintains in the light of the resources available to it and taking into account Government policies in respect of higher education.

Maidstone And Canterbury Colleges Of Art

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he has received any representations supporting the proposals of the National Advisory Board for Maidstone college of art and Canterbury college of art.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will reject the recommendation of the National Advisory Board for Higher Education that the degree courses of Maidstone college of art and Canterbury college of art should be merged and that one of the colleges should be closed.

The proposal made by the board of the national advisory body concerning degree courses at Maidstone college of art and Canterbury college of art will be considered by the committee of the national advisory body on 29 October 1984. The committee will, in due course, advise my right hon. Friend with whom the final decision rests.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he has had any representations that the consultation process adopted by the National Advisory Board in relation to proposals for the Maidstone college of art and Canterbury college of art have been inadequate.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what representations he has had from the Kent county council, lecturers and students from Maidstone college of art and Canterbury college of art concerning proposals from the National Advisory Board for these colleges.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what conclusions he has drawn from the representations he has received concerning the proposals of the National Advisory Board for Maidstone college of art and Canterbury college of art; and if he will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend has noted the representations and will take them into full account when making his decision.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what representations he has had from hon. Members about proposals by the National Advisory Board for Maidstone college of art and Canterbury college of art.

National Advisory Board For Higher Education

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will ask the National Advisory Body for Higher Education to review its planning and consultation procedures.

It is for the National Advisory Body for Local Authority Higher Education to determine its own procedures, consistent with the terms of reference established by my right hon. Friend. The welcome openness of the NAB's procedures also exposes them to considerable outside scrutiny and debate.

Training Standards

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what assessment he makes of the relative standards of education and training of young people and adults in Great Britain and in the United Kingdom's major trading competitors, respectively; and if he will make a statement.

Reliable international comparisons of the standards associated with qualifications of different types and of different levels require an agreed frame of reference (including common criteria for assessing performance) which does not exist at present. However, a recent survey commissioned by the Manpower Services Commission and the National Economic Development Office indicates that the industrial and commercial success of three major trading competitors is associated with higher levels of investment by employers in vocational education and training. The report suggests gaps and weaknesses in United Kingdom provision, for which employers and the education and training for them share responsibility. The Government seek to remedy these deficiences in England and Wales through the policy set out in the White Paper, "Training for Jobs".

Transport

Lean Burn Engines

42.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what assessment he has made of the impact of lean burn engines on atmospheric pollution.

The information available to me suggests that the application of the lean burn principle to petrol engines has the potential for reducing carbon monoxide and nitrogen oxide emissions from cars by about 50 per cent. The effect on atmostpheric pollution will depend on the location at which measurements are made, and the significance of other sources.

East London River Crossing

asked the Secretary of State for Transport when he now expects the public inquiry into the east London river crossing to open.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport how many objections to the proposed east London river crossing have now been received from (a) local authorities, (b) local organisations, (c) businesses and (d) individuals.

We have received 1,630 representations; of these 11 were from local authorities, 36 from local organisations, 17 from businesses and 1,537 from individuals, including 158 who signed petitions. A further 29 representations have been received from groups and organisations outside the area.

Air Transport (Competition)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what information he has about the number of applications to fly in competition with existing operators which have been received by the Civil Aviation Authority following the publication of its report on competition; if he will list the routes, indicating whether they are British, European or other international; if he will list the objections to the applications to compete with existing operators on these routes; and if he will name the objectors; and if he will make a statement.

Air transport licences are a matter for the Civil Aviation Authority and I am asking the chairman of the authority to write to the hon. Member. I shall place a copy of the chairman's letter in the Library.

Aircraft (Safety Equipment)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what information he has as to how many airlines use and how many aircraft are fitted with safety factors category 3B allowing them to fly in all weather conditions; if he will estimate the cost of fitting this type of equipment for all British passenger airlines; if he will consider giving financial support to sponsor such a programme; and if he will make a statement.

Currently, 55 aircraft of British Airways are equipped, certificated, and approved for category 3B operations. A further seven, belonging to three other airlines, have similar airborne equipment and they are seeking certification for category 3B.Not all aerodromes are suitable for the instrument landing system ground installation. The cost of equipment and certification varies from one aeroplane type to another and it is not possible to assess the cost of fitting all British airliners.It is for airline operators to judge whether the benefits they and their passengers gain from avoiding diversions in bad weather justify the expense of equipping their aircraft and training crews to the hight standards required for such operation.It is not Government policy to fund such investment. The Government have in the past contributed considerable resources to the development of auto-land systems.

Glc (Lorry Ban)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what representations he has received against the proposals of the Greater London council to ban night time and weekend lorry traffic passing through and delivering goods within the Greater London area; what action he proposes to take on this matter; and if he will make a statement.

As I told my hon. Friend the Member for Eastleigh (Sir D. Price) on 22 October, at columns 420–21, hundreds of firms and trade associations have written protesting to the GLC about its proposals and demanding a public inquiry. I would hope that, in the wider interests of London, the GLC is now giving proper and serious consideration to these representations.

Employment

Youth Training Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what percentage of youth training scheme places in London were filled in 1984.

At the end of September, the latest date for which figures are available, 64 per cent. of the total places approved in Greater London for 1984–85 were occupied, although at that time not all the approved places were available for immediate occupation.

Special Employment And Training

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the total number of people benefiting from special employment and training measures at the latest available date (a) in the constituency of Hampstead and Highgate and (b) in the London borough of Camden.

Some 3,500 people were benefiting from the employment and training measures in the London borough of Camden. Because of the various bases on which local information is collated, an unknown proportion of these will be outside my hon. Friend's constituency.

Home Department

Juveniles (Indictable Offences)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, further to his answer to the hon. Member for Mid-Staffordshire on 21 June, Official Report, column 211, what information he has as to how many of the 54,000 juveniles under the age of 16 years found guilty of indictable offences in the year 1982–83 were recorded as having played truant from school at the time of the offence.

Information on truancy from school is not available in respect of those under the age of 16 found guilty of indictable offences, there were 54,000 such convictions in 1982 and 48,000 in 1983.

Free Newspapers

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will introduce legislation to require free newspapers to include in each copy a coupon that would enable householders to ensure that the delivery to their home ceases if they so wish.

No. We have no reason to believe that such legislation would be appropriate.

Coal Industry Dispute

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many police officers have received injuries which have required outpatient and inpatient treatment at National Health Service hospitals since the commencement of the miners' strike; and what has been the cost to public funds.

In the period 13 March to 22 October inclusive, 951 police officers received injuries in connection with the miners' strike. Information about the treatment they required is not available centrally and could be obtained only at disproportionate expense.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many persons have been arrested in Wales, since the miners' strike began, as a result of activities connected with the strike; and if he will provide a breakdown of the figures to indicate with what offence the persons arrested have been charged.

Between 13 March and 16 October inclusive 459 arrests were made in Wales in connection with events arising from the miners' dispute. Four hundred and fifty-two of those arrested were subsequently charged with offences as set out in the table below:

OffenceNumber of charges
Section 5 of the Public Order Act (conduct likely to cause a breach of the peace)150
Obstruction of a police constable130
Obstruction of the highway117
Criminal damage130
Assault on a police constable13
Assault occasioning actual bodily harm5
Railway offences7
Attempted criminal damage1
Offensive weapon1
Other offences10
Total564

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many people, other than those engaged in picketing, have been arrested since the start of the miners' strike in relation to events arising out of the strike; and with what offences they have been charged.

The information available centrally does not distinguish between those arrested while picketing and those arrested elsewhere in connection with the dispute. In total, for the period 13 March to 22 October inclusinve 7,401 people had been arrested in connection with events arising from the miners' dispute.The latest information available centrally about the charges brought relates to the period 13 March to 16 October inclusive and is as follows:

OffenceNumber of charges
Section 5 of the Public Order Act 1936 (conduct likely to cause a breach of the peace)3,162
Obstruction of a police constable1,507
Obstruction of the highway579
Criminal damage672
Criminal damage with intent to endanger life4
Arson9
Assaulting a police constable258
Assault occasioning actual bodily harm277
Grievious bodily harm29
Theft119
Resisting arrest17
Offensive weapon34
Conspiracy and Protection of Property Act 1875217
Burglary8
Handling stolen property1
Drug offence1
Breach of the peace112
Breach of bail conditions28
Attempt (various offences)17
Drunkenness56
Unlawful assembly492

Offence

Number of charges

Railway offences17
Affray21
Riot128
Incitement1
Reckless driving12
Threats/conspiracy to cause damage12
Explosives offence3
Threats to kill3
Other offences118
Total7,914

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what special instructions have been issued to chief constables concerning the implementation of criminal sanctions against striking miners, working miners and lorry drivers in relation to events connected with the miners' strike.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department under what authority he asked the president of the Association of Chief Police Officers, at a meeting on 27 March, to advise chief constables that financial considerations should not influence the operational discharge of their duties in connection with the miners' strike.

Under the Police Act 1964 and by virtue of my right hon. and learned Friend's general responsibility for the maintenance of law and order.

Telephone Tapping

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what action he intends to take regarding the ruling of the European Court of Human Rights on 3 August concerning the practice of telephone tapping in the United Kingdom; and if he will make a statement.

The European Court delivered its judgment on 2 August in the case referred to it by the European Commission of Human Rights concerning the interception of telephone conversations on behalf of the police—the Malone case.The Court acknowledged that detailed procedures existed to govern the interception of communications on behalf of the police in England and Wales, as set out in the White Paper "The Interception of Communications in Great Britain", (Cmnd. 7873); that interception carried out under those procedures was lawful under the law of England and Wales; and that the published statistics showed the effectiveness of those procedures in keeping the number of warrants relatively low, especially when compared with the rising number of indictable crimes committed and telephones installed. The Court found, however, that the law of England and Wales did not indicate with sufficient clarity and precision the scope and manner in which the power to authorise interception was to be exercised, and that it therefore did not satisfy article 8 of the European Convention of Human Rights.The Government had already given an undertaking that legislation on the interception of communications would be introduced in the forthcoming Session of Parliament. In giving that undertaking in another place on 19 March 1984, at column 1034 my noble Friend the Viscount Whitelaw made it clear that the European Court's findings would be taken into account in determining the scope and content of the legislation.

Women's Prisons (Education)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department in which women's prisons education has been partially or wholly withdrawn since 1 January; and if he will state the respective periods and reasons.

Between 1 January and 30 September 1984 education programmes for women and girls took place as planned at Drake Hall, Durham, East Sutton Park, Low Newton, Pucklechurch and Styal, and there were only minimal interruptions to the programmes at Askham Grange and Risley. Interruptions to the programmes at other establishments were caused primarily by shortages of prison officers for supervisory duties, and were as follows:

Teaching Hours
PlannedWithdrawn
Day-timeEveningDay-timeEvening
HM Youth Custody Centre, Bullwood Hall2,915714110113
HM Prison Cookham Wood2,93413729636
HM Prison, Holloway7,4641,3683,436683

Arrested Persons

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what guidelines exist for the police in relation to the fingerprinting, handcuffing and photographing of arrested persons.

Paragraphs 4.16–4.21 of the "Consolidated Circular to the Police on Crime and Kindred Matters" (a copy of which is in the Library of the House) gives guidance to the police on fingerprints; and paragraph 4.65 of the consolidated circular gives guidance on handcuffing. The Police and Criminal Evidence Bill makes provision in relation to fingerprinting; and the draft code of practice on identification which has been published in association with the Bill makes provision in relation to photographing.

Local Government Reform

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what studies his Department is conducting on manpower requirements within the West Midlands county council fire service as a prelude to the proposed abolition of the county council; and if he will make a statement on the preliminary results and their implications for staffing levels in (a) the Coventry area and (b) the county as a whole.

Under the Government's proposals determining fire service manpower requirements will, in the first instance, be a matter for the joint board.

Chelsea Football Club (Supporters)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will call for a report from the chief constable of Hampshire on the incidents concerning supporters of Chelsea football club following the club's defeat by Southampton football club on Saturday 20 October, and on similar incidents concerning Chelsea supporters when they visited Portsmouth football club earlier in 1984.

I understand from the chief constable of Hampshire that on the afternoon of 20 October 1984 his officers made 26 arrests and ejected a further 26 spectators from the football ground. five spectators and four police officers were injured and considerable damage was caused to nearby property. It is alleged that Chelsea supporters were involved in further incidents that evening at Basingstoke, Hayling Island and Winchester. A number of arrests were made as a result. As criminal proceedings are in train it would not be appropriate to comment further.The match between Portsmouth and Chelsea football clubs on 24 April 1984 passed without incident; at its end Chelsea supporters waiting for police to escort them from the ground caused extensive damage to seating which they threw at the police. Nine police officers were injured, none seriously. Outside the ground two cars were damaged. The police arrested eight people, of whom six subsequently received fines, one was sentenced to a term of imprisonment and one case was dismissed.

Glue Sales

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what agreement has been reached between Her Majesty's Government and retailers on the sale of glue; and if he will make a statement.

We have consulted representatives of retailers' associations about proposals to make it an offence to supply a substance to a person under 16 knowing or having reasonable grounds for believing that it was likely to be inhaled to achieve intoxication. There has been widespread support for such a measure, and the Government will be prepared to support the introduction of a suitable Bill in the next parliamentary Session.My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services has had discussions with retailers on guidelines for voluntary restraint on retail sales. The agreed guidelines were first made available at the beginning of this year and have been distributed widely.

Drug Abuse

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what reports will be forthcoming from the interdepartmental group on drug abuse; when they will be published; and if he will make a statement.

The interdepartmental ministerial group is currently reviewing and developing the Government's policies on the prevention of drug misuse and has no present plans for the publication of formal reports. The results of its work are reflected in statements of the Government's policy, such as that by my right hon. and learned Friend the Minister for Health on 10 October.

Refugee Status And Asylum

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will give the figures for the first six months of 1984 for (a) the number of persons with applications for refugee status or political asylum in the United Kingdom outstanding at the start of the year, (b) the number of such applicants submitting applications during the six-month period and (c) the number of such applications under (a) and (b) granted during the period with reference to (i) all applicants and (ii) those with Sri Lankan nationality.

On 1 January 1984 there were nearly 3,000 applications for refugee status and asylum recorded as outstanding. Some 1,400 further applications were received during the first six months of 1984. In the first six months of the year 321 applications were granted refugee status or asylum (including one Sri Lankan national); in addition, 427 applicants refused asylum were granted exceptional leave to enter or remain (including 11 Sri Lankan nationals). The recording of applications has recently been transferred from a manual to a computerised system, and the transfer has brought to light errors over the last five years in the manual recording particularly in regard to the number of cases shown as outstanding which have up to now been understated.

House Of Commons

Hon Members (Freedom From Arrest)

asked the Lord Privy Seal if Her Majesty's Government will introduce legislation to codify in statute law the rights of Members of Parliament of freedom from arrest in performing their parliamentary duties; and if he will make a statement.

asked the Lord Privy Seal if Her Majesty's Government will introduce legislation to extend the rights of Members of Parliament of freedom from arrest in connection with their parliamentary duties to correspond with those enjoyed by Members of the European Parliament in connection with their parliamentary duties where the latter immunities are more extensive; and if he will make a statement.

The scope of the ancient privilege of the House of Commons of Members' freedom from arrest rests on the law and custom of this Parliament. I see no reason to change this.

Trade And Industry

British Telecom

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what is his most recent estimate of the revenue to be raised from the proposed sale of shares in British Telecom.

The price at which shares in British Telecom will be offered for sale will be determined immediately before the flotation in the light of circumstances at the time. It would not be approrpriate for me to speculate now as to what the exact proceeds will be.

Car Prices

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what representations he has received about proposals to equalise car prices within the European Economic Community; what his response has been; and if he will make a statement.

Ec (Trade Statistics)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will publish a table showing the total exports too and imports from the Common Market for all visible trade and manufacturing goods trade, respectively, and the consequent surplus or deficit in respect of each year from 1973 to 1983, respectively, and for 1984 to date; and if he will publish separate tables showing the same information in respect of the original six members of the European Economic Community.

The information is in the tables.For the original six members, trade figures are available only on the "Overseas Trade Statistics" basis. Corresponding estimates of the balances are included for the current membership as well as the balance of payments estimates which are preferred because they measure both exports and imports free of freight and insurance costs.

United Kingdom Trade with European Community Original Six Members
£ million
Overseas Trade Statistics Basis
ExportsImportsCrude balance
Total visible trade
19732,8864,210-1,324
19744,1226,348-2,226
United Kingdom Trade with European Community Current Membership
£ million
Balance of payments basisOverseas Trade Statistics Basis Crude balance
ExportsImportsBalance
Total visible trade
19733,8515,178-1,327-1,335
19745,5467,680-2,134-2,332
19756,2278,734-2,507-2,481
19768,93611,194-2,258-2,402
197711,67413,606-1,932-2,313
197813,34815,863-2,515-2,926
197917,31019,935-2,625-3,408
198020,42719,578+849-32
198120,86120,751+110-599
198222,99724,262-1,265-2,145
198326,46028,841-2,380-3,595
1984 (January-June)15,09416,317-1,223-1,910
1984 (January-August)N.A.N.A.N.A.-2,712
Manufactures*
19733,0153,481-466-416
19744,3304,965-635-750
19754,6995,408-709-639
19766,7737,441-668-666
19778,6729,424-752-909
19789,70411,510-1,806-2,028
197912,03114,585-2,554-3,081
198013,28514,446-1,161-1,744
198112,51815,086-2,568-2,993
198213,72018,064-4,344-4,983
198315,04422,136-7,092-7,914
1984 (January-June)8,59912,507-3,908-4,408
1984 (January-August)N.A.N.A.N.A.-5,959
N.A. Not available.
* Standard International Trade Classification Sections 5 to 8.

Source:Department of Trade and Industry Overseas Trade Statistics.

Overseas Trade Statistics Basis

Exports

Imports

Crude balance

19754,9337,264-2,332
19767,0559,694-2,639
19779,20111,959-2,759
197810,56013,899-3,338
197913,65917,988-4,329
198016,65717,573-916
198116,99618,594-1,598
198218,88121,779-2,898
198322,01426,137-4,123
1984 (January-June)12,70514,831-2,126
1984 (January-August)16,90119,840-2,938

Manufactures*

19732,3073,088-781
19743,2834,444-1,161
19753,8184,935-1,117
19765,4966,848-1,352
19776,9798,799-1,820
19787,82110,905-3,084
19799,60813,973-4,365
198010,93613,727-2,792
198110,41914,233-3,814
198211,39417,060-5,666
198312,48120,967-8,486
1984 (January-June)7,18711,845-4,658
1984 (January-August)9,45115,742-6,291

* Standard International Trade Classification Section 5 to 8.

Source: Overseas Trade Statistics>

Insurers (Supervision Costs)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether he has any plans to charge insurers for the cost of supervising their activities.

It is the Government's intention as soon as Parliamentary time is available to introduce legislation containing provisions for fees to be charged to cover costs incurred in connection with the supervision of insurers.

Prime Minister

Liverpool

asked the Prime Minister why hon. Members representing Liverpool constituencies were not notified of her intention to visit Liverpool on Tuesday 2 October; and if she will make a statement on her visit.

I regret that the hon. Members concerned were not given the usual advance notice of my visit but this was necessary in the interests of security and of avoiding unnecessary burdens on the local police.As to a statement on my visit, I refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply I gave on Tuesday 23 October to the hon. Member for Liverpool, Riverside (Mr. Parry).

Falkland Islands

asked the Prime Minister whether the original report that two torpedoes had hit the General Belgrano, also contained information about the position and course of the General Belgrano when attacked.

Energy

Coal Industry

asked the Secretary of State for Energy how many pits and pit faces have suffered significant physical damage due to the cessation of mining activities.

I understand from the National Coal Board that to date 19 working faces at 15 collieries have been lost as well as 5 salvage faces at 5 collieries where equipment was awaiting recovery. In addition 16 faces at 14 collieries are causing serious concern.

Energy Research Development And Demonstration

asked the Secretary of State for Energy when he will reply to the report of the Energy Committee about energy research development and demonstration.

The Government have now replied to the Select Committee's report and copies have been placed in the Libraries of the House.

Attorney-General

Legal Aid

asked the Attorney-General if, in view of the recent call by the Master of the Rolls for reform of the legal aid system, the Lord Chancellor has any plans to introduce such reforms; and if he will make a statement.

The Lord Chancellor has noted with interest the recent remarks of the Master of the Rolls, which clearly call for careful consideration. The question of the principles underlying eligibility has been referred to the Advisory Committee on Legal Aid for consideration in its current programme of work. When the Lord Chancellor has received its report, he will consider all matters involved, including the availability of and implications for resources.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Classified Information

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how many prosecutions relating to the unauthorised disclosure of classified information from his Department have been brought in each year of the last 10 years.

From 1974 to 1981 there were no prosecutions relating to the unauthorised disclosure of classified information from the Foreign and Commonwealth Office. In 1982 there was one prosecution, in 1983 there were none and in 1984 there has been one.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he is satisfied with the arrangements within his Department for protecting the confidentiality of classified information.

The protection of classified information is a matter allowing no room for complacency, but arrangements within the Foreign and Commonwealth Office are under regular review and we are generally satisfied with them.

Nuclear Waste (Dumping)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if there are any provisions of the United Nations law of the sea treaty governing the dumping of nuclear waste in the sea to which the United Kingdom objects.

As we have made clear on an earlier occasion we regard those parts of the convention relating to pollution as helpful.

Gibraltar

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what was the outcome of his meeting with the Chief Minister of Gibraltar on 3 October; and if he will make a statement.

On 3 October my right hon. and learned Friend briefed Sir J. Hassan on his meeting with the Spanish Foreign Minister in New York on 25 September, and they reviewed together contacts with Spain on matters affecting Gibraltar. They also discussed progress being made on commercialisation of the naval dockyard, Gibraltar's economy, labour matters and air communications.

Gibraltar-Spain (Border)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what further progress has been made with the Spanish Government in relation to the implementation of the Lisbon agreement regarding free vehicular and pedestrian movement on both sides of the border between Gibraltar and Spain.

Since the reply given by my hon. Friend the Member for Wycombe (Mr. Whitney) to my hon. Friend on 12 July at column. 672 my right hon. and learned Friend has had a further meeting with the Spanish Foreign Minister in New York on 25 September at which they reviewed the discussions which had taken place at the diplomatic and technical level. These contacts are continuing with a view to achieving the earliest possible normalisation of relations between Spain and Gibraltar. My right hon. and learned Friend expects to meet the Spanish Foreign Minister again before long.

Hong Kong

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on the measures which have been taken to protect the pensions of past and current expatriate civil servants in Hong Kong after 1997.

Paragraph iv of annex I to the joint declaration on Hong Kong initialled by the British and Chinese Governments on 26 September states that

"the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region Government shall pay to such persons who retire or complete their contracts, as well as to those who have retired before 1 July 1997, or to their dependants, all pensions, gratuities, allowances and benefits due to them on terms no less favourable than before, and irrespective of their nationality or place of residence."
We are confident that this arrangement provides full security for the payment of pensions to both serving and retired civil servants and their dependants.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs (1) where the Hong Kong accumulated Government reserves are held; (2) what is the size of the accumulated Hong Kong Government reserves at the latest date for which figures are available.

The accumulated fiscal reserves of the Hong Kong Government as at 31 July were Hong Kong $13·43 billion. It is not the policy of the Hong Kong Government to reveal the size or location of the assets of the exchange fund.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether any agreement on the ownership of the Hong Kong Government assets after 1997 was reached at the talks between Her Majesty's Government and China.

The draft Sino-British agreement on Hong Kong's future provides for the Government of the Hong Kong special administrative region to deal on its own with financial matters, including disposing of its financial resources and to manage and control the exchange fund. Matters relating to the smooth transfer of government in 1997 will be discussed in the Sino-British joint liaison group to be set up under the agreement.

British Consulate, Durban (Refugees)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on the latest position regarding those who have taken refuge in the British consulate in Durban; what representations he has received on behalf of those remaining in the consulate; what is the content of the letters received from the lawyers acting on behalf of the South Africans in the consulate and if he will place a copy in the Library.

I refer the hon. Member to the statement I made on 23 October at column 559–60. There have been many representations to the Government on behalf of the three. We naturally have considered these carefully. I am arranging for a copy of the statement issued by the three on 18 October to be placed in the Library of the House.

Leeward Islands Air Transport Company

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs (1) why the Common Market has declined to authorise the purchase by the Leeward Islands Air Transport Company of British aircraft; and why it has urged the company to purchase planes produced in France;(2) if he will make a statement outlining the powers which the Common Market has exercised to urge the Leeward Islands Air Transport Company to buy French planes instead of the British planes which it wishes to purchase.

The 11 Caribbean Governments who own Leeward Islands Air Transport have requested assistance from the European Development Fund and the European Investment Bank to purchase four aircraft. Under the terms of the Lomé Convention the European Commission is responsible for managing the EDF, and must ensure, when contracts are financed from it, that the economically most advantageous offer is accepted. I understand that, having examined several bids submitted after an invitation to tender, the Commission has informed LIAT that it considers a French offer to be economically the most advantageous. This view is contested by LIAT and the latest information I have is that discussions are continuing between LIAT and the Commission.

Human Rights

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what progress there has been on the family reunification and personal cases which he raised with the Soviet Foreign Minister during his visit to Moscow in July.

I am pleased to say that the Soviet authorities have issued exit visas to three persons whose cases I raised with Mr. Gromyko. They are Aleksey Terletskiy, who wished to visit his son, my hon. Friend the Member for Cardiff, West; Miss Flora Leipman-Kaplan, a British subject who wished to return to the country of her birth; and Miss Lyudmila Kuzmina who wished to visit her fiancé who is a British subject. All three are now in this country.

Environment

Council Property Sales

15.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will introduce legislation to give the right to buy to tenants of local authority-owned shops.

The Goverment have no proposals to extend the right to buy to commercial lettings.

Privatisation

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what discussions he has had with local authority associations regarding privatisation within local authority controlled facilities.

My right hon. Friend has had no recent discussions with the local authority association on this issue.

Natural Heritage

20.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what steps he proposes to take during the next two years in order to protect the natural heritage.

We have taken the conservation lead in Europe by asking the Community for legal backing to spend money not only on producing food, but also on helping farmers to protect the environment. We shall continue our efforts to make the Wildlife and Countryside Act effective, working closely with the Nature Conservancy Council and the Countryside Commission. As the hon. Member knows I am looking at ways of strengthening the Act.

Local Authority Expenditure (Political Propaganda)

21.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what progress there has been in his consideration of expenditure by local authorities on political propaganda.

The use of ratepayers' money to fund political campaigning is one of many issues giving cause for concern about the health of local democracy. My right hon. Friend will shortly announce to the House details of an inquiry which the Government intends to hold on these complex matters.

Housing Investment Programme

22.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is now likely to be the total housing investment programme for 1985–86.

No decisions have yet been taken on the level of resources to be made available for local authorities' housing investment programmes in 1985–86.

Homelessness (Statistics)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many people are currently homeless.

Up-to-date information is not available. However, during the second half of 1983 the total number of households who, after due inquiry, were found by local authorities to be homeless amounted to some 60,000, of whom about two-thirds had accommodation secured for them.

Association Of Water Authorities

24.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he last met the chairman of the Association of Water Authorities; and what subjects were discussed.

I met the chairman of the Water Authorities Association on 3 October 1984, when we discussed possible changes in the legislative framework for nationalised industries.

Housing Starts

25.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many local authority house starts are likely to take place in 1984.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply that I gave earlier to my hon. Friend the Member for Pontefract and Castleford (Mr. Lofthouse).

Planning Appeals

26.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment on how many occasions during the last 12 months he has awarded costs against the planning authority and appellant, respectively, in planning appeals.

In the 12 months to 30 September 1984, there were 40 awards of costs against local planning authorities and 13 awards against appellants, in planning appeals, including appeals against enforcement notices.

Repair Grants

27.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many local authorities currently accept new applications for repair grants.

Rates Act 1984 (Designations)

28.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he proposes meeting the leaders of authorities designated under the Rates Act in order to discuss their expenditure levels.

31.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what consultations he has undertaken with those local authorities selected for rate limitation under the Rates Act 1984.

None. I have received a number of representations from selected authorities.

34.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects to meet representatives of the Association of Metropolitan Authorities and the Association of London Authorities to discuss designations under the Rates Act.

Council House Sales

29.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many council houses have been sold in England since May 1979.

From April 1979 to June 1984 about 600,000 dwellings were sold by local authorities and new towns in England.

Coventry (Housing)

30.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is his estimate of the number of homes in Coventry that lack either basic amenities or need substantial repairs to bring them up to standard.

Coventry city council provided estimates for 1 April 1984 in its housing investment programme return which is available in the Library. My Department does not make estimates for individual authorities.

Derelict Land

32.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will bring forward proposals for the use of derelict land in inner cities.

Within the derelict land grant programme we already give high priority to schemes which contribute to urban renewal, and in particular to joint schemes where the land is disposed of for private development immediately after reclamation by local authorities. Where public bodies are reluctant to release unused land in inner cities my right hon. Friend is ready to consider directing them to do so under his land register power.

Local Government Reform

33.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what plans he has for explaining the advantages of his proposals contained in "Streamlining the Cities".

I shall continue to use every opportunity to explain the substantial advantages which will result from removing this unnecessary tier of government.

Islington (Government Funding)

35.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement of the effects on employment and services of Government funding to the London borough of Islington for the financial year 1985–86.

The main source of Government funding to Islington LBC is rate support grant. Any local authority's block grant entitlement depends initially upon its grant-related expenditure. Islington's GRE per head is the second highest in inner London and is 23 per cent. above the inner London average. Beyond that, the council can maximise its grant entitlement by meeting its expenditure target.

Northern Ireland

Construction Industry

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, how many operatives were employed in the construction industry in the Province at the latest available date; and what was the figure for June 1979.

The number of employees employed in the construction industry at June 1984, the latest available date, was 22,740; the corresponding figure for June 1979 was 37,150.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what plans he has to reduce unemployment in the construction industry; and if he will make a statement.

Further to the reply given by my right hon. Friend the Member for Bosworth (Mr. Butler), on 13 December 1983 at c. 451 the public expenditure plans for the current year envisage over £400 million worth of work being generated in the Northern Ireland construction industry by direct public sector spending on capital projects and maintenance. In addition, Government grants and loans to the private sector are expected to give rise to a further £330 million of construction work.These levels of public expenditure are helping to reduce unemployment in the construction industry which has fallen by almost 1,000 as compared with this time last year.

Hospitals

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will list by health authority all hospitals which have (a) closed and (b) opened, indicating the numbers of beds involved, for each of the past five years.

The information is as follows:

YearHealth & Social Services BoardHospitals ClosedBeds
1981EasternMalone Place32
SouthernNewry General40
1982NorthernMary Ranken16
NorthernRathene16
1983NorthernHopefield32
No new hospitals have opened during the five-year period since 1979, but the services formerly provided at the above hospitals have either transferred to new purpose built non-hospital accommodation, or moved to more modern facilities on existing hospital sites.

National Finance

£ Sterling (Exchange Rate)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the percentage change in the exchange rate for the £ sterling since June 1983 against: (i) the United States dollar, (ii) the basket of currencies, (iii) the German mark, (iv) the Japanese yen, (v) the Swiss franc and (vi) the French franc.

The information required is as follows:

Percentage change in sterling's exchange rate June 1983 (average)— October 1984
(average to 22 October)
per cent.
£ Exchange Rate Index-11·0
United States dollar-21·1
Deutschemark-4·7
Japanese yen-18·7
Swiss franc-5·3
French franc-2·8

Tourist Accommodation (Taxation)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) if he has any proposals to tax boarding houses as non-trading concerns;(2) if he has any proposals to tax guest houses as non-trading concerns;(3) if he has any proposals to tax hotels as non-trading concerns.

No; provided that the activities amount to trading the concern will be taxed as a trade.

Construction Industry

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will estimate the effects on the construction industry of the measures introduced in his last budget at the latest date.

It is not possible at this stage to make precise estimates of the overall effect on the construction industry of the measures introduced in the last Budget but as explained at the time they were expected to be beneficial. The industry stands to benefit particularly from the reduction in corporation tax, the reduction in stamp duty and, as a relatively labour intensive industry, the ending of the national insurance surcharge.

Capital Investment

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will estimate the total United Kingdom capital accumulation and the amount of capital investment in domestic United Kingdom public and private organisations and the amount of all United Kingdom investments abroad in 1983.

Gross domestic fixed capital formation (GDFCF) in the United Kingdom in 1983 was £49·6 billion, of which £36·1 billion was private sector and £13·5 billion public sector; and the United Kingdom's stock of fixed assets net of depreciation was about £830 billion at the end of 1983 valued at current replacement cost of which about £500 billion was private sector and about £330 billion was public sector. United Kingdom investment overseas in 1983 was £10·6 billion and corresponding holdings at the end of 1983 were about £125 billion. These figures are published in the 1984 Editions of "United Kingdom National Accounts" and "United Kingdom Balance of Payments", available in the House of Commons library.Figures of United Kingdom GDFCF and United Kingdom investment overseas are not strictly comparable. GDFCF consists only of tangible fixed assets whereas United Kingdom investment overseas covers non-Government net financial flows for all investment purposes.

Ec (Finance)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what additional funds Her Majesty's Government have authorised to be paid to the European Economic Community to enable it to finance its policies till the end of the year.

At the Foreign Affairs Council on 2 October, the Council agreed to the establishment of the draft supplementary budget No. 1 for 1984, which is now under examination by the European Parliament. The supplementary budget is needed in order to enable the Community to meet its obligations under the CAP in 1984 to farmers and traders in all Member States including the United Kingdom. The Council agreed that supplementary finance for this Budget should take the form of contributions by the member states, totalling some 1,003 mecu, under an inter-Government agreement. The United Kingdom's gross share of the cost of this would be some 200 mecus or roughly £120 million. The gross cost will be partially offset by the United Kingdom's share of the expenditure in question.The Government made clear that it would not be in a position to complete its national procedures for obtaining Parliament's approval of the agreement until the United Kingdom has received its refunds for 1983 and the Council has reached agreement on the measures necessary to guarantee the principles of budget discipline approved by the European Council. The Council took note of this in the inter-Government agreement. The Government will not seek Parliament's approval of the inter-Government agreement under the appropriate procedures, nor will it make payment until both these conditions have been met. The European Parliament on 10 October agreed to the release of the 1983 refunds by a large majority. It is expected that they will be received shortly.

Drug Smuggling (Investigators)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many special investigators are engaged on combating illegal drug smuggling at seaports and airports in the United Kingdom; and if he will make a statement.

At 1 October 1984 the investigation division of Customs and Excise included a total of 233 posts in teams engaged in the investigation of drug smuggling. Most of these posts are in London; a minority are in the provinces. At 31 March 1984 there were in addition 6,552 customs staff at seaports, airports and inland premises throughout the United Kingdom whose duties include the prevention of drug smuggling. Since then 60 additional staff have been allocated to the improvement of preventive controls of passengers and freight. In 1985–86 there are to be a further 100 new posts which will be used to boost controls in the fight against drug smuggling.

Value Added Tax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he has any plans to levy value added tax on passenger transport fares; and if he will make a statement.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he has any plans to impose value added tax on certain foodstuffs; and if he will make a statement.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what representations he has received regarding the possible imposition of value added tax on children's clothing and in particular footwear.

Money Supply

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will make a statement on the growth of the money supply during September 1984 and his expectations for sterling M3 during the remainder of the financial year 1984–85.

In banking September MO grew by 1 per cent. and £M3 by 1·3 per cent. Target period, six and 12 month growth rates for MO, on an annualised basis, all stand at between 5 and 5½ per cent. comfortably within the target range of 4·8 per cent. Annualised growth in £M3 in the target period so far, at 10 per cent. is now at the top of the target range. Six and twelve month growth rates for £M3 remain around 9 per cent. Growth in £M3 in banking September may have been inflated by arbitrage. I confidently expect that £M3 will be within its target range over the 1984–85 target period as a whole.

Ec (Budget)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish a table showing the net contribution made by the United Kingdom, less rebates, in respect of each of the calendar years from 1973 to 1983; and if he will provide an estimate of the net sum which will be paid in respect of the years 1984 and 1985, respectively.

The information requested for the period 1973–83 is shown in the following table. Estimates of the net contribution for future years were published in the last Public Expenditure White Paper (Cmnd. 9143, Volume II pages 13, 17–18). These estimates will be updated in the autumn statement in the light of the agreement reached at the Fontainebleau European Council.

£ Million
Gross paymentsReceipts other than refundsGross refundsNet TotalNet total* at constant 1983 prices
197318179102374
19741791502993
1975342398-56-141
1976463296167365
1977737368369708
19781,3485268221,420
19791,6066599471,431
19801,76796398706890
19812,1741,084693397448
19822,8631,2381,019606638
19832,9761,522807647647
* The figures given in the reply have been calculated to constant prices by use of the GDP deflator based on GDP in pounds sterling at 1983 average market prices. These figures are published in Economic Trends.
Negative sign denotes a net receipt.

Taxation

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his latest estimate of the revenue costs of disaggregation of income tax without rearrangement and if he will give a separate estimate of the costs with rearrangement showing the costs attributable to pensioner and non pensioner couples.

[pursuant to his reply, 22 October 1984]: It is not possible to specify a unique figure for the cost of disaggregating incomes of husband and wife since the overall consequences would depend on the form taken by the personal allowances and other reliefs under the new system. On the basis of the recorded distribution of investment income between husband and wife, the overall cost, in 1984–85, of allowing an election for disaggregation, on the lines described in paragraphs 46–50 of the Green Paper "The taxation of husband and wife" (Cmnd. 8093), woud be about £300 million. Of this, about one-third is in respect of taxpayers over the age of 65. An estimate of the cost of the election, after allowing for possible rearrangement of income between husband and wife which might occur in response to the change, could only be attempted at disproportionate cost, and even then could be highly speculative.

Civil Service (Manpower)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if copies of the annual report by the Treasury on Civil Service Manpower Reductions in 1983–84 will be made available to hon. Members.

Yes. The 1983–84 annual report has been given to the Treasury and Civil Service Select Committee and copies will be placed in the Library of the House.

Social Services

Merseyside (Take-Up Campaign)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will provide the information which is available for Wirral, West, Wirral, South and Wallasey on the results of the 1983 Merseyside county council's take-up campaign in the manner of the answer given to the hon. Member for Birkenhead on 15 May, Official Report, columns 141–142.

The only offices of the Department serving Wirral, West and Wirral, South which were involved in the 1983 Merseyside county council take-up campaign are Birkenhead, North and Birkenhead, South. Information for these offices was given by my hon. Friend the Member for Brent, North (Dr. Boyson) in his reply to the hon. Member on 15 May at columns 141–142.The information for Wallasey is as follows:

Number
Total number of post cards received*1,631
Claims for weekly paymentsAwardedNo entitlement
Pensioners73405
Unemployed claimants18252
Others28173
Total119830
Claims for single paymentsAwardedAmount (£)
Pensioners1183,739
Unemployed claimants22516,603
Others18610,836
Total52931,178

Notes:

* Either claims for an increase of benefit already in payment, or new claims.

Records are not kept of the number of refusals of single payments.

Private Health Care

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many consultants in the North-West Thames region are providing service to private heath care establishments; how many consultants' annual income and expenditure statements (category II) have been returned; what total of the one-third of all fees has been returned to the authority; and if he will make a statement.

We do not collect information centrally about the number of medical and dental consultants providing services to private health care establishments. Consultants are not required to submit statements of category II income and expenditure. They are required to remit one third of their fees to the health authority if NHS laboratory, radiological or other facilities are used.

Asbestosis

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the criteria by which the pneumoconiosis medical panel diagnoses asbestosis.

Medical questions, including diagnosis, relating to claims for disablement benefit for prescribed occupational chest diseases are determined by independent special medical boards (formerly pneumoconiosis medical boards).Asbestosis is a form of pneumoconiosis which is characterised by fibrosis of the lungs caused by inhalation of asbestos dust. Diagnosis normally takes account of the claimant's occupational history and the presence of the following clinical findings:

  • 1. Characteristic bilateral basal crepitations;
  • 2. Radiological features of diffuse interstitial fibrosis in the lower halves of the lung field;
  • 3. Impairment of the lung function consistent with diffuse interstitial fibrosis.
  • Coal Industry Dispute

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will list in the Official Report the number of persons by classification and areas involved who have been injured during the miners' strike resulting in hospital treatment and the cost to the National Health Service for medical and inpatient treatment;(2) how many persons carrying out picketing at British coalfields have been required to receive inpatient or outpatient treatment at National Health Service hospitals; how many were identified as previously working miners; how many had no connection with the mining industry; and what was the cost of the treatment of these persons to public funds.

    London Ambulance Service

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what changes in personnel, vehicle availability, ambulance mileage and coverage for non-urgent cases are planned in respect of the London ambulance service.

    The South-West Thames regional health authority, which manages the London ambulance service on behalf of the three other Thames regions, has recently issued a strategic planning framework for consultation. This contains guidelines on the future pattern of health services within the region over the next 10 years. Included in it are proposals for certain changes within the non-emergency ambulance service in order to meet anticipated demand within the resources likely to be available. I am sure the chairman of the South-West Thames RHA would be pleased to provide the hon. Member with further details.

    Nhs (Private Contractors)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what representations he has received from Messrs. Forte concerning the nature of contracts offered to private firms tendering for National Health catering contracts; what reply he has sent; and what action he has taken, or intends to take in respect of the conditions of the contracts, or advice given to regional or district health authorities concerning acceptance of tenders.

    Gardner Merchant, Trust House Forte's industrial catering division, has informed me that it would prefer contracts for NHS catering services to be on a management fee basis. We are not satisfied that this would be in the best interests of the NHS, but further discussions are to take place with the British Hotels, Restaurants and Caterers Association, of which Gardner Merchant is a member. We have no present intention of changing from the fixed price form of contract which will enable authorities to improve the cost-effectiveness of catering throughout the hospital service.

    Hospitals (Salmonella Poisoning)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish a table showing the incidence of, and number of persons affected by, outbreaks of Salmonella poisoning in National Health Service hospitals for each of the years 1979 to 1983.

    The number of salmonella infections in NHS hospitals in England and Wales in the years 1979–1983, as reported to the communicable disease surveillance centre, was as follows:

    Number of OutbreaksNumber of Persons Ill
    197924322
    19802099
    198115134
    19822677
    19832693

    "Omega Health Policy"

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his policy towards the recommendation of the Adam Smith Institute's "Omega Health Policy" report, a copy of which has been sent to him, that charges be imposed for accommodation in National Health Service hospitals, for visits to family doctors, for the provison of non-essential drugs and non-emergency ambulance transport.

    I have no responsiblity for the statments of the Adam Smith Institute, which which is a private body.

    Health Authorities (Strategic Plans)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will extend the consultation period for the preparation of regional strategic plans by regional health authorities.

    The period for consultation on a regional strategic plan is set by the regional health authority itself. If the hon. Member has a particular problem in mind he should write to the chairman of the appropriate regional health authority.

    Nhs (Patient Statistics)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, how many of the patients listed as treated in the NHS in each year since 1974–75 received acute treatment in private hospitals as a charge on the NHS.·

    [pursuant to his reply, 23 October 1984, c. 572]: We collect statistics for patients treated under contractual arrangements with institutions outside the NHS separately from those treated in NHS hospitals. The relevant figures are given in the table. Acute treatment for this purpose covers all specialties with the exception of convalescent, geriatric, maternity, mental illness, mental handicap and severe mental handicap.

    Patients receiving acute treatment under contractual arrangements with institutions outside the NHS in England
    YearIn-patient discharges and deathsNew outpatients treated
    197413,64546,303
    197515,60347,923
    197615,80245,785
    197714,77147,517
    197814,25849,766
    197915,24042,077
    Table 1
    Region and Area/DistrictHospitalNumber of bedsDate approved
    (i) Hospitals approved for complete closure May 1979–December 1979
    Northern
    DurhamDarlington Memorial Hospital, Hunden's Unit125July 1979
    Yorkshire
    HumbersideTownend Maternity Hospital17August 1979
    Trent
    DerbyshireNightingale Maternity Home34July 1979
    SheffieldWales Court Hospital, Sheffield79December 1979
    North West Thames
    BarnetSt. Elizabeth's Hospital, Barnet40June 1979
    BarnetOrme Lodge, Barnet22December 1979
    BarnetStanmore Cottage Hospital14December 1979
    North East Thames
    Camden and IslingtonGarrett Anderson Maternity Home32September 1979
    South East Thames
    West LambethHolmhurst Hospital24December 1979
    South West Thames
    Mid SurreySchiff Hospital, Surrey84December 1979
    Wessex
    DorsetCapesthorne Children's Unit, Dorset22May 1979
    Oxford
    BerkshirePeppard Hospital, Berkshire136November 1979
    OxfordshireCowley Road Hospital172November 1979

    Year

    In-patient discharges and deaths

    New outpatients treated

    198014,33914,610
    198114,62814,315
    198215,55616,899

    Heart Surgery Units (Closure)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list, by regional health authority, those hospitals which have either permanently or temporarily closed heart surgery units in the last five years.

    The records of hospital closures maintained centrally do not enable cardiac units to be specifically identified.

    Nurses

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what has been the total number of nursing jobs lost for each of the past three years in each regional health authority.

    Hospitals

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list all hospitals (a) closed and (b) opened, indicating the numbers of beds involved, in both instances for each district health authority for each of the past five years.

    The information that we have available centrally on complete hospital closures is in table 1. The information available centrally on building schemes over £5 million completed during this period is in table 2. We do not have complete information on beds opened therefore as we do not collect it on smaller schemes.

    Region and Area/District

    Hospital

    Number of beds

    Date approved

    Mersey

    ChesterBarrowmore Hospital, Chester118June 1979
    ChesterDavenham Hospital, Northwich32October 1979
    WirralSt. James Hospital75July 1979
    WirralThingwall Hospital48July 1979
    WirralBirkenhead General Hospital181July 1979
    (ii) Hospitals approved for complete closure 1980

    Northern

    ClevelandOverdene Maternity Home, Cleveland22February 1980

    Yorkshire

    LeedsHaigh Hospital, Leeds34May 1980

    Trent

    NottinghamshireAdbolton Hall, Nottingham26August 1980

    East Anglian

    CambridgeshireGrange Maternity Unit, Cambridge10March 1980
    NorfolkStow Hall Hospital, Norfolk40November 1980

    North West Thames

    BedfordshireLuton and Dunstable Hospital, Children's Annexe61July 1980
    HertfordshireTolmers Park Hospital, Herts67January 1980
    Kensington, Chelsea, WestminsterSt. Columba's Hospital27August 1980

    North East Thames

    Camden and IslingtonThomas Barlow Home24July 1980
    Camden and IslingtonCromwell Lodge29November 1980
    City and East LondonLondon Jewish Hospital128February 1980
    Enfield and HaringeyBearsted Memorial Hospital38December 1980
    EssexWaltham Abbey War Memorial Hospital21December 1980

    South East Thames

    Canterbury and ThanetPrincess Mary's Hospital, Margate146February 1980
    HastingsBexhill Convalescent Home78October 1980
    South East KentDover Eye Unit34December 1980

    South West Thames

    East SurreyCaterham Main Hospital23September 1980
    East SurreyClerks Croft Hospital, Surrey90September 1980
    East SurreyEast Surrey Hospital78September 1980
    East SurreyHorley Hospital16September 1980
    East SurreySmallfield Hospital190September 1980
    Mid SurreyCuddington Hospital136September 1980
    Mid SurreyQueen Elizabeth House32May 1980
    WandsworthSt. Benedict's Hospital213September 1980

    Wessex

    DorsetFirs Maternity Home, Dorset14July 1980
    DorsetHahneman Convalescent Home, Dorset32September 1980

    South Western

    CheltenhamHolm Hospital66March 1980
    PlymouthDevonport Hospital132October 1980

    West Midlands

    Hereford and WorcesterHolme Lacy Hospital84November 1980
    Hereford and WorcesterStretton Sugwas Hospital44July 1980
    StaffordshireGroundslow Hospital118June 1980
    StaffordshireStandon Hall Hospital79June 1980

    Mersey

    LiverpoolLiverpool Psychiatric Day Hospital30September 1980
    WirralHighfield Maternity Hospital47February 1980
    WirralWallasey Hospital for Women31May 1980

    North Western

    BoltonWilkinson Hospital52March 1980
    LancashireDeepdale Hospital100November 1980
    LancashireThe Willows, Preston23November 1980
    LancashireLostock Hall Continuation Hospital41December 1980
    OldhamStrinesdale Hospital44August 1980
    WiganPemberton Day HospitalOctober 1980
    (iii) Hospitals approved for complete closure 1981

    Northern

    North TynesideWillington Quay Maternity Hospital14November 1981

    Yorkshire

    North YorkshireFulford Maternity Hospital87January 1981
    WakefieldCarr Gate Hospital35November 1981
    WakefieldHeadlands Hospital, Pontefract125November 1981
    WakefieldNewton Lodge Annexe35November 1981

    Trent

    DerbyshireSmedley Memorial Hospital27February 1981
    DerbyshireParwich Hospital47May 1981
    LincolnshireTuxford Hostel, Nottingham16August 1981
    NottinghamshireFirs Maternity Hospital40May 1981
    NottinghamshireNottingham Women's Hospital132May 1981

    Region and Area/District

    Hospital

    Number of beds

    Date approved

    SheffieldThornbury Hospital58April 1981
    SheffieldSt. Joseph's Hospital, Sheffield90September 1981
    SheffieldHallwood Isolation Hospital18November 1981

    East Anglian

    CambridgeshireMarch Maternity Home10April 1981

    North West Thames

    BedfordshireDaneswood Convalescent Home44March 1981
    Ealing, Hammersmith and HounslowTemple Hill House18March 1981

    North East Thames

    Barking and HaveringSt. Faith's Hospital293October 1981
    City and East LondonAldersbrook Hospital55October 1981
    City and East LondonQueen Mary's Hospital, Newham112October 1981
    City and East LondonSt. Mary's Hospital, Newham64October 1981

    South West Thames

    Merton and SuttonWimbledon Hospital57October 1981

    Wessex

    HampshireWinchfield Hospital55January 1981
    WiltshireSt. Martin's Hospital165April 1981

    Oxford

    OxfordshireSt. Mary's Hospital30July 1981

    West Midlands

    WarwickshireSt. Mary's Hospital, Harborough Magna42October 1981
    WolverhamptonQueen Victoria Nursing Institute20May 1981

    Mersey

    ChesterTadley Hostel17December 1981
    CreweWrenbury Hostel17December 1981
    SeftonFleetwood Road Hospital54October 1981
    WirralLeasowe Hospital123January 1981
    WirralVictoria Central Hospital, Surgical Unit95January 1981

    North Western

    TraffordUrmston Cottage Hospital22July 1981
    (iv) Hospitals approved for complete closure 1982

    Northern

    DurhamLangley Park Smallpox Hospital24September 1982

    Trent

    LeicestershireMarkfield Hospital119May 1982
    North DerbyshireChesterfield and North Derbyshire Royal Hospital275October 1982
    North LincolnshireAlexandra Hospital, Woodhall Spa28January 1982
    North LincolnshireFoxby Hill Hospital, Gainsborough20July 1982

    North East Thames

    Camden and IslingtonCity of London Maternity Hospital86April 1982
    Camden and IslingtonWhittington Home26April 1982
    EnfieldEnfield War Memorial Hospital44October 1982

    South East Thames

    Dartford and GraveshamJoyce Green Hospital22May 1982
    Tunbridge WellsMawsell House, Tunbridge Wells26December 1982

    South Western

    Cornwall and Isles of ScillyPerranporth Hospital31September 1982

    West Midlands

    ShropshireLudlow and District Hospital21September 1982
    Worcester and DistrictSouth Bank Nursing Home23April 1982

    Mersey

    MacclesfieldCollar House, Prestbury42December 1982

    North Western

    BoltonHavercroft Free Discharge Unit, Bolton14February 1982
    StockportMarple Dale Hospital, Stockport94January 1982
    Thameside and GlossopApsland Maternity Home, SalfordJune 1982
    (v)Hospitals approved for complete closure 1983

    Northern

    South CumbriaKendal Green79August 1983
    South CumbriaMeathop45August 1983
    South CumbriaWestmoreland County101August 1983

    Yorkshire

    DewsburyBatley General80July 1983
    DewsburyDewsbury General133July 1983
    DewsburyMirfields Memorial22July 1983
    HarrogateCarlton Lodge Maternity Home13December 1983
    HarrogateThistle Hill43September 1983
    Leeds WesternLeeds Maternity123February 1983
    Leeds WesternLeeds Hospital for Women86February 1983

    Trent

    LeicestershireZachary Merton Recovery Home92June 1983
    North DerbyshireAshgate Maternity Home22January 1983
    North DerbyshireAshgate Annex E43June 1983
    North DerbyshireMorton42April 1983

    Region and Area/District

    Hospital

    Number of beds

    Date approved

    South DerbyshireBlakeley30March 1983
    South DerbyshireDraycott37March 1983
    South LincolnshireBoston General58March 1983

    East Anglian

    CambridgeMill Road Maternity117February 1983
    East SuffolkSt. Helens61September 1983
    HuntingdonHuntingdon County57September 1983
    NorwichHome Place Convalescent Home32December 1983
    NorwichLongacre Maternity Home12December 1983
    PeterboroughButterfield12March 1983

    North West Thames

    BrentLeamington Park95August 1983
    BarnetWest Hendon134September 1983
    North HertfordshireNorth Hertfordshire Maternity Hospital85November 1983
    VictoriaAll Saints Hospital45December 1983
    VictoriaVincent Square Day Hospital18December 1983

    North East Thames

    BloomsburyRoyal National Orthopaedic96October 1983
    HaringeyPrince of Wales115November 1983
    North East EssexClacton Maternity18February 1983
    North East EssexEssex Hall154July 1983

    South East Thames

    BrightonNewhaven Valley24June 1983
    CamberwellSt. Giles150August 1983
    Lewisham and SouthwarkSt. John's36June 1983
    Tunbridge WellsHawkenbury30July 1983

    South West Thames

    CroydonWaddon Hospital80October 1983
    WandsworthSouth London Hospital for Women172November 1983

    Wessex

    Portsmouth and South East HampshireSandy Point57November 1983
    SalisburyFordingbridge Cottage22September 1983

    Oxford

    East BerkshireFarnham Park Rehabilitation Centre55November 1983
    OxfordshireNeithrop and Pines64December 1983
    West BerkshireHenley War Memorial25December 1983

    South Western

    FrenchayLeigh Court133June 1983
    FrenchayWendover Maternity16August 1983
    PlymouthAlexander Maternity Home21March 1983
    PlymouthGreenbank220March 1983

    West Midlands

    DudleyThe Limes30December 1983
    DudleyPrestwood135December 1983
    Worcester and DistrictSt. Wulston's Hospital260November 1983

    Mersey

    WirralCleaver132June 1983

    North Western

    North ManchesterMemorial Jewish94December 1983

    Board of Governors (Queen Charlotte's)

    St. Leonards-on-Sea Convalescent Home42November 1983
    (vi) Hospitals approved for complete closure January 1984–June 1984

    Northern

    NorthumberlandStannington Children's Hospital40February 1984

    Yorkshire

    BradfordThornton View82April 1984
    GrimsbySpringfield Hospital100March 1984
    WakefieldSnapethorpe Hospital24March 1984

    Trent

    Central NottinghamshireDebdale Hall Recovery Home37February 1984
    North LincolnshireLawn Hospital125February 1984

    East Anglian

    NorwichThe Vale99May 1984

    North West Thames

    Paddington and North KensingtonChapstow Lodge47June 1984

    North East Thames

    City and HackneyThe Mothers81June 1984
    The German93June 1984
    St. Matthews164June 1984
    Tower HamletsMildmay Mission Hospital62March 1984
    Waltham ForestHarts Hospital78May 1984
    Lugano Nursing Home26May 1984

    South West Thames

    Merton and SuttonCheam Hospital68April 1984
    North West SurreyMurray House, Ottershaw91April 1984

    Region and Area/District

    Hospital

    Number of beds

    Date approved

    Wessex

    WinchesterTichbourne Down House Hospital40April 1984

    Oxford

    Milton KeynesWestbury Maternity Home16January 1984
    OxfordshireLongworth37March 1984

    South Western

    SomersetWellington Maternity Home10March 1984

    West Midlands

    Bromsgrove and RedditchBlackwell Recovery Hospital46March 1984
    HerefordshireTupsley Hospital31February 1984
    Mid-StaffordshireYarnfield Hospital36April 1984
    North StaffordshireBiddulph Grange Orthopaedic Hospital84February 1984
    Leek Memorial Hospital21February 1984
    Lymewood Hospital36February 1984
    Westcliffe Hospital146February 1984
    South BirminghamBirmingham Accident Hospital149May 1984
    Worcester and DistrictSt. Wulstan's Hospital260June 1984

    Mersey

    LiverpoolNewsham General Hospital480March 1984
    Princes Park Hospital100March 1984

    North Western

    WiganAshton Hospital32February 1984

    Note: Information is not held centrally on dates actual closure takes place.

    Table 2

    Schemes over £5 million with building completion dates between 1 May 1979 and 30 June 1984

    District

    Beds in scheme

    1979

    1980

    1981

    1982

    1983

    1984

    Northern Region

    Royal Victoria Infirmary Scheme 1 Phase 4NewcastleMay
    Furness (Barrow) DGH Phase ISouth Cumbria382January
    North Tyneside Phase INorth Tyneside334December
    South Cleveland General Phase ISouth TeesMarch

    Yorkshire Region

    Grimsby DGH Phase IGrimsby472December
    Leeds General Infirmary Phase ILeeds Western291September

    Trent Region

    Chesterfield DGH Phase INorth Derbyshire448August
    Glenfield DGH Phase ILeicestershire200November
    Queens Medical Centre Phase 2Nottingham1,003August
    Rotherham DGH Phase 2Rotherham178May

    East Anglian Region

    Great Yarmouth DGH Phase IYarmouth & Waveney248August
    Hinchinbrooke Phase 3Huntingdon227January
    Ipswich Phase I Heath RoadEast Suffolk308April
    Kings Lynn Phase 2West Norfolk & Wisbech481August

    North West Thames Region

    Watford (Shrodells) Phase 3South West Herts368February

    North East Thames Region

    London Hospital Clinical Building Phase 1Tower HamletsJune
    Newham Hospital Phase INewham293September

    South East Thames Region

    Maidstone DGH Phase IMaidstone262April
    Orpington Phase IBromley308December

    South Western Region

    Derriford DGH Phase 1Plymouth355February

    West Midlands Region

    Dudley DGH (Russell Hall) Phase 3ADudley414August
    Stafford DGH Phase 4Mid Staffs297November

    Mersey Region

    Arrowe Park new DGHWirral1,007April
    Macclesfield NucleusMacclesfield208June
    Royal Liverpool Phase 2 and 3Liverpool820December
    West Cheshire Phase 1Chester160January

    District

    Beds in scheme

    1979

    1980

    1981

    1982

    1983

    1984

    North Western Region

    Hope Hospital Salford Phase 1Salford83May
    Preston new Hospital Phase 1PrestonJune
    Preston new Hospital Phase 2Preston700August

    South West Thames Region

    Croydon/Mayday DGHCroydon330December
    Redhill DGHEast Surrey224November

    Wessex Region

    Southampton General Hospital Phase 5South West Hants218December
    Southampton General Hospital West Ward BlockSouth West Hants521December

    Oxford Region

    Milton Keynes DGH Phase IMilton Keynes265September

    Scotland

    Road Accidents Scotland

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many accidents on single track roads involved overseas' motorists and what proportion this was of the total in each of the last three years for which information is available.

    The number of reported injury road accidents on single track roads involving vehicles with foreign or diplomatic number plates was as follows:

    Number of Accidents
    YearFatalSeriousSlightTotalPercentage of all injury accidents on single track roads
    198185132·6
    198258132·8
    198346102·6
    The figures do not include information on accidents involving vehicle damage only, which is not held centrally, nor do they take account of accidents involving United Kingdom registered vehicles driven by overseas motorists.

    Fish Processing

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he has any plans to meet the representatives of the various fish processing organisations in the north east of Scotland, and particularly from the Banff and Buchan constituency, to discuss the effects on the industry of shortage of fish supplies for processing and consequent high prices, and in particular the effects on employment in the industry; and if he will make a statement.

    My right hon. Friend has no immediate plans to meet representatives of these organisations. My right hon. and noble Friend the Minister of State has, however, met the Federation of North East Scotland Fish Merchants' Associations, most recently on 18 September 1984, when the scarcity of white fish supplies was among the topics discussed.

    Dairy Produce Quota Tribunals

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the estimated cost to public funds for the work of the dairy produce quota tribunal in Scotland; and how often the tribunal is meeting and at what locations in Scotland.

    The current estimated cost of the fees and expenses of members of the dairy produce quota tribunal for Scotland is £90,000. Staffing and other support services are being provided by the Department of Agriculture and Fisheries for Scotland and the final cost of the tribunal's work will depend on the length of time taken to complete its consideration of cases.In order to deal with cases as quickly as possible the tribunal has until now operated in four panels. A fifth panel has however been established in order to accelerate the handling of cases. Each panel is at present meeting for two days a week in Edinburgh.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is satisfied with the progress of the dairy produce quota tribunals in relation to the number of applications from producers to be treated as special cases, how many applications were received, and how many have now been dealt with by the tribunals.

    In Scotland, 1,866 producers applied for additional milk quota as special or exceptional hardship cases. To date, 255 producers have had their cases rejected by the Department of Agriculture and Fisheries for Scotland on the grounds that they do not meet the requirements of the Dairy Produce Quotas Regulations 1984. The Dairy Produce Quota Tribunal has considered the cases of some 600 producers.Most of the applications were received from producers on or immediately before the closure date of 28 August, and have required detailed checking by staff of the three milk marketing boards in Scotland and of the Department. Bearing in mind the complexity of the applications and the need to ensure that cases are properly considered, I am entirely satisfied with the progress which the tribunal has made so far.

    Milk Marketing Scheme

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland, whether he intends to make any alterations to the milk marketing scheme in Scotland similar to the Milk Marketing Scheme (Amendment) Order 1984 (S.I., 1984, No. 1330) which came into operation on 1 October in England and Wales, and if he will make a statement.

    There are no proposals to amend the respective milk marketing schemes of the three milk marketing boards in Scotland along the lines of the Milk Marketing Scheme (Amendment) Order 1984, which dealt primarily with the voting and administrative arrangements of the milk marketing board in England and Wales.

    School Milk Scheme

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will indicate the regional and island authorities which give nursery school children free milk under the European Economic Community school milk scheme.

    Information is collected in respect of nursery and primary school children together. It is not possible centrally to isolate figures for nursery schools or identify where nursery school children may benefit. The authorities providing free school milk to children in the combined category are:

    • Central Regional Council
    • Dumfries and Galloway Regional Council
    • Fife Regional Council
    • Grampian Regional Council
    • Lothian Regional Council
    • Strathclyde Regional Council
    • Orkney Islands Council
    • Shetland Islands Council
    • Western Isles Islands Council.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will indicate the grant-aided and independent schools participating in the European Economic Community school milk scheme; and which schools give pupils free school milk.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what has been the value of the subsidy in each of the past two years to each regional and island authority of the European Economic Community school milk scheme for grant-aided or independent schools.

    The subsidy claimed on behalf of grant-aided or independent schools by regional and island authorities is:

    19821983
    ££
    Dumfries & Galloway Regional Council439·001,866·00
    Fife Regional Council3,233·8610,289·11
    Grampian Regional Council6,913·42
    Highland Regional Council13,979·781,688·83
    Lothian Regional Council74,610·59
    Tayside Regional Council28,011·63
    Total17,652·64123,379·58

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what has been the value of the subsidy in each of the past two years to each regional and island authority of the European Economic Community school milk scheme for state schools.

    The information is as follows:

    19821983
    ££
    Borders Regional Council6,200·1412,074·90
    Central Regional Council188,620·72209,426·93

    1982

    1983

    £

    £

    Dumfries & Galloway Regional Council40,340·5851,286·33
    Fife Regional Council265,701·52310,097·57
    Grampian Regional Council162,947·55194,862·44
    Highland Regional Council32,852·2527,445·82
    Lothian Regional Council353,395·86342,691·93
    Strathclyde Regional Council1,525,133·401,771,002·10
    Tayside Regional Council79,937·74135,779·99
    Orkney Islands Council13,265·3210,684·89
    Shetland Islands Council19,683·9718,764·19
    Western Isles Islands Council8,722·5431,081·56
    Total2,696,801·593,115,198·65

    Intervention Food Stores

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in the Official Report the letter of 21 August from Lord Gray of Contin to the hon. Member for Dundee, West on the location and contents of European Economic Community intervention food stores in Scotland.

    Yes. The text of the letter was as follows:

    "You wrote on 31 July to the Prime Minister seeking information on the contents and operation of EC Intervention food stores in Scotland and I am replying on her behalf. I attach a list showing the locations, commodities and tonnages held in Scottish stores as at 30 June. These figures have been rounded to the nearest tonne; where there is more than one store in a particular town or city, stocks held have been separately identified.
    The actual names and addresses and storage rates paid to individual store operators are matters of some commercial sensitivity and I cannot divulge them. However, details of the overall costs to the Government of buying and storing intervention commodities are published in the Intervention Buying Accounts, the most recent of which was presented to Parliament on 3 May 1983 as House of Commons Paper No. 360.
    As I pointed out in my letter of 18 July, it is impossible to quote a market value for stocks in intervention as this would depend largely on the purpose for which they are released. The only reasonable indicators of the value of stocks held are the current intervention prices which were quoted in my letter. The current intervention price for skimmed milk is £1,026·22 per tonne.
    Your letter also asks if it is the Government's intention to release these stocks to the general public. My earlier letter outlined various ways in which stocks are released, but it depends upon the relevant EC Commission Regulation. But it is certainly the case that stocks can be released for UK consumption, although no disposals are carried out by direct sales to the public from stores."
    The list enclosed with the letter was:

    Stock figures
    tonnes
    Beef
    Aberdeen (1)993
    (2)48
    Glasgow (1)242
    (2)333
    Perth17
    Stirling84
    Butter
    Aberdeen1,284
    Glasgow (1)3,759
    (2)2,246
    (3)642
    Dalcross92
    Edinburgh (1)762
    (2)64

    tonnes

    Skimmed Milk Powder

    Newbridge360
    Glenrothes871
    Aberdeen1,060
    Cumbernauld336
    Bathgate2,280

    Barley

    Arbroath2,392
    Drumlithie3,424
    Duns12,789
    Evanton4,612
    Fearn541
    Granton3,316
    Kirkcaldy2,075
    Penicuik3,292
    Stracathro3,464
    Turriff1,500

    Dairy Farmers

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many dairy farmers in Scotland applied for special case or exceptional hardship consideration on grounds of investment in pasteurisation equipment; and of those how many claims were accepted.

    Pasteurisation equipment was included in their list of investments by 34 applicants for special case or exceptional hardship consideration. Of these 26 have been accepted by the Department of Agriculture and Fisheries for Scotland for further examination by the dairy produce quota tribunal for Scotland, which will decide in each case what, if any, additional quota may be awarded.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many direct milk sellers in Scotland were in production in the years 1981, 1982 and 1983; and if he will estimate the number following the introduction of the milk quotas.

    The figures relating to 31 March in each year are as follows:

    Number
    1981288
    1982280
    1983259
    At the introduction of compulsory pasteurisation on 1 August 1983, the number was 116. I would anticipate no change following the introduction of milk quotas.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many dairy farmers in Scotland have applied for consideration as (a) special cases, (b) direct sellers and (c) outgoers; how many have been accepted in each case; and how many producer-retailers have failed to register as direct sellers for Scotland.

    The total number of dairy farmers in Scotland who applied for special case consideration is 1,866. Some 190 producers have applied for registration as direct sellers and allocation of direct sales quota. Applications under the outgoers scheme totalled 371.Of the producers who made special case applications, 1,611 have had cases reserved for further examination either by the Department of Agriculture and Fisheries for Scotland or by the dairy produce quota tribunal for Scotland. All applications for direct sales quota have been accepted on prima facie grounds but estimated quotas have yet to be allocated. All producers known to be currently engaged in direct sales have applied.No producer who made a valid application under the outgoers scheme has yet been rejected. An initial offer to proceed under the scheme has been made to smaller producers most dependent on dairying and the offer may be extended to other applicants should any of the smaller producers decide not to proceed.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many litres the outgoers scheme was designed to release in Scotland; and how many litres were made available by those applying under the outgoers scheme.

    It is the Government's intention to purchase a total of 29·8 million litres in Scotland. Applicants have offered just over 130 million litres.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether direct sellers in Scotland who have had to introduce pasteurisation equipment will be treated any differently from direct sellers in England.

    The Government recognise that the introduction of quotas may have given rise to particular problems for producers in Scotland affected by the introduction of compulsory pasteurisation there in 1983. After the dairy produce quota tribunal for Scotland has completed its consideration of special case and exceptional hardship applications the Government will consider what problems remain and the possibility of dealing with these in the context of reallocating quota purchased under the outgoers scheme.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether the introduction of pasteurisation equipment qualifies Scottish farmers for special case or exceptional hardship consideration.

    Consideration of the case depends on whether the applicant satisfies the conditions of the Dairy Produce Quotas Regulations 1984. Investment in pasteurisation equipment does not on its own allow applications to be considered.

    Fishing Industry

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many meetings were held with representatives of the Scottish Fishermen's Federation between 1 July and 12 September; and what assurances the Government gave regarding the by-catch quota.

    My right hon. and noble Friend the Minister of State met representatives of the Scottish Fishermen's Federation on 23 August in advance of the meeting of the Council of Fisheries Ministers on 10 September. In addition Ministers met industry representatives in Brussels in the margins of the Council.At these meetings it was explained that the Government, like the industry, were opposed to the change in the by-catch limit. However, it was pointed out that since this view was not shared by the other Member States, a compromise might have to be sought reducing the proposed percentage and limiting its application to one fishing season. In the event a temporary and limited change of this kind was successfully negotiated.

    Blind And Partially-Sighted Children (Education)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what are the numbers of (a) blind and (b) partially-sighted children being educated in (i) special schools and (ii) ordinary schools in each of the local education authority areas in Scotland.

    In September 1983, the latest date for which information is available, the numbers of pupils with educational needs specifically linked to visual impairment of whatever degree in special schools were as follows:

    (i) Education authority schools—total 565.
    Number
    Borders1
    Central20
    Dumfries and Galloway5
    Fife50
    Grampian69
    Highland13
    Lothian88
    Strathclyde284
    Tayside28
    Orkney2
    Western Isles3
    Shetland2
    (ii) Grant-aided schools—total 108.
    Since handicapped pupils in mainstream primary and secondary schools are fully integrated with their non-handicapped peers no attempt is made to distinguish them by reference to impairment.

    Peterhead Prison (Assaults)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many inmates in Peterhead prison are awaiting prosecution for assaults upon prison officers; and what length of time is taken before the reports are sent to the procurator fiscal in Peterhead.

    Three. Two other Peterhead prisoners in this category are at present temporarily located in other prisons. A report of an assault on prison staff is made to the police, by the governor, within 24 hours. It is, thereafter, the responsibility of the police to make any report to the procurator fiscal.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the average period of time in the past year for which inmates of Peterhead prison who assault prison officers have been placed in solitary confinement and remained there until either charged or dealt with under prison regulations; and if he will make a statement.

    Approximately 15 weeks. Where a report relating to an assault upon a prison officer by a prisoner is sent to the police, the governor had discretion under the prison rules to keep the prisoner out of normal circulation until charges are brought and thereafter, with the Secretary of State's permission, to keep him out of circulation in the interests of good order or discipline or in the prisoner's own interests until the charges have been dealt with. This is not a punishment and the prisoner has access to normal privileges other than association. The time spent after a charge has been brought is normally determined by the length of time it takes to bring a charge to court, a matter outwith the control of the prison authorities.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many assaults on prison officers in Peterhead prison which were made in June and July have not yet been dealt with by the procurator fiscal.

    I understand that four assaults on prison officers in Peterhead prison in June and July for which two prisoners have been charged, have not yet been dealt with.

    Hospitals

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list by health authority all hospitals which have (a) closed and (b) opened, indicating the numbers of beds involved, for each of the past five years.

    The information requested is shown below.

    Number of beds
    (a) Hospital closures
    1979
    Argyll and Clyde Health Board
    Broadstone Jubilee Hospital, Port Glasgow22
    Duncan McPherson Hospital, Gourock14
    Gateside Hospital, Greenock132
    Greenock Eye Infirmary15
    Greenock Royal Infirmary132
    Lothian Health Board
    Dunbar Cottage Hospital*
    Tayside Health Board
    Kings Cross (West) Hospital, Dundee
    1980
    Lanarkshire Health Board
    Shorts Hospital40
    Tayside Health Board
    Charleton Maternity Home, Montrose19
    Sidlaw Hospital, Auchterhouse44
    1981
    Greater Glasgow Health Board
    Carnbooth Children's Home, Glasgow30
    Homoeopathic Hospital for Children, Glasgow30
    Tayside Health Board
    Burghmuir Hospital, Perth41
    1982
    Ayrshire and Arran Health Board
    Kilmarnock Infirmary150
    Torrance House, Kilmarnock44
    Tayside Health Board
    Strathmore Hospital, Blairgowrie28
    1983
    Borders Health Board
    Peebles County Hospital21
    Peebles War Memorial Hospital26
    Greater Glasgow Health Board
    Ear, Nose and Throat Hospital, Glasgow83
    Shetland Health Board
    Brevik Hospital, Lerwick43

    Note: The bed figures shown are the approved bed complements at the time of closure.

    The details provided refer only to complete hospitals taken out of use. Information in respect of partial closures and cases where there has been a change in use of NHS facilities is not held centrally.

    * Holiday home used by mentally handicapped with accommodation

    for approximately 30.

    Reserve function as isolation unit for serious highly infectious diseases, used only twice in the last twenty years.

    Number of beds

    (b) Hospital openings

    1979

    Greater Glasgow Health Board

    Belvidere Hospital—Phase I30
    Woodilee Hospital—Phase I60

    1980

    Argyll and Clyde Health Board

    Johnstone Hospital30

    Grampian Health Board

    Woodend Geriatric Hospital30

    Greater Glasgow Health Board

    Blawarthill Hospital30
    Canniesburn Hospital30
    Gartloch Hospital30
    Gartnavel Hospital60
    Mearnskirk Hospital30
    Stobhill Hospital60

    Tayside Health Board

    Irvine Memorial Hospital, Pitlochry12
    Murray Royal Hospital, Perth60

    1981

    Ayrshire and Arran Health Board

    Crosshouse Hospital710

    Fife Health Board

    Glenrothes Hospital92

    Lothian Health Board

    Edinburgh Royal Infirmary redevelopment—Phase Inil
    Edinburgh Royal Hospital—Phase I170

    Tayside Health Board

    Perth Royal Infirmary85
    Royal Liff Hospital, Dundee60

    1982

    Grampian Health Board

    Inverurie Hospital30
    Spynie Hospital, Elgin30

    Highland Health Board

    Lochaber Hospital30

    Lothian Health Board

    Astley Ainslie130

    Tayside Health Board

    Blairgowrie Cottage Hospital36

    1983

    Borders Health Board

    Hay Lodge, Peebles65

    Fife Health Board

    Whyteman's Brae, Kirkcaldy260

    Forth Valley Health Board

    Royal Scottish National Hospital, Larbert120

    Grampian Health Board

    Ugie Hospital, Peterhead30
    Woodend Hospital—Glenburn Wing24
    Woodlands Hospital120

    Greater Glasgow Health Board

    Glasgow Royal Infirmary—Phase I214
    Stobhill Hospital90

    Number of beds

    Lothian Health Board

    Herdmanflat Hospital72

    Tayside Health Board

    Aberfeldy Cottage Hospital12

    Note: The details provided are based on information held centrally about new hospital buildings brought into use most recently on the sites of existing hospitals. The total bed complement of the accommodation is shown but it should be noted that not all beds were necessarily brought into use in the given years. Many of the beds provided are replacements for outdated facilities elsewhere and are not additions to the overall complement.

    Rates

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will introduce legislation to compel local authorities in Scotland to consult representatives of small businesses prior to fixing a rate.

    Local authorities are already required by section 4 of the Rating and Valuation (Amendment) (Scotland) Act 1984 to consult bodies representative of non-domestic ratepayers prior to determining a rate. Further guidance is given in the code of practice issued by my Department on 4 July 1984. It would not be appropriate to decide centrally what particular bodies might or might not be representative of local small businesses in each authority's area, but I would expect the consultation process to include some representation from the small business sector.

    Defence

    Nuclear Exchanges (Environmental Effects)

    43.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will assess the effects on the environment of a nuclear exchange and publish details of his assessment.

    The fundamental objective of the Government's defence policy, based on the strategy of deterrence, is to continue to ensure that neither nuclear nor conventional war occurs. The effects of any war, nuclear or conventional, would be appalling. The international scientific community is currently examining the possible environmental effects of a nuclear war, and the Government are following this work closely.

    Queensway, Gibraltar

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what progress has been made in the relocation of his Department's building in Queensway, Gibraltar; and when he anticipates that this area will be handed over to the Gibraltar Government for tourist development.

    Planning has been proceeding on the relocation of the defence facilities located in the Queensway buildings and it is hoped that the sites will be handed over in two to three years' time.

    Texas Instruments Company

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) what action he has taken to investigate the effect of the Texas Instruments company's product problems on the integrity of United Kingdom defence equipment incorporating its products; and if he will make a statement;(2) if he will take action to ensure that within the defence sales "two-way-street" arrangement with the United States Government no impediments will be permitted by either Government or companies participating in the scheme to withhold data from users as to the quality and performance of supplier's products; and if he will make a statement;(3) what representations were made to the Government of the United States and to the Texas Instruments company about the three-week delay in releasing to Her Majesty's Government and to British contractors, details of the scale and effect of product reliability problems discovered in Texas Instruments production processes.

    My Department immediately sought and is now obtaining from Texas Instruments details of the electronic chips the testing of which is suspect. The implications of this information for product reliability will be studied carefully and the necessary action taken. Extensive incoming tests on components, plus tests at the sub-assembly and system level, suggest that system reliability may not have been affected. There is no evidence of failures attributable to the use of TI chips.The lapse of time between TI s initial notification to the United States Government and the receipt of details in the United Kingdom is attributed to the laborious nature of the review which was necessary to establish the extent of the problem.

    Coal Industry Dispute

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if members of the armed forces have been used in any capacity in policing operations in relation to the current miners' dispute.

    I have nothing to add to the reply I gave to the hon. Member for Barnsley, East (Mr. Patchett) on 21 May, at column 372.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what requests he has received for military aid to a civilian power in regard to movement of coal stocks (a) over the last seven months, and (b) in preparation for 25 October and beyond.

    Chemical Weapons

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will give an undertaking not to introduce new chemical weapons; and if he will make a statement.

    The UK has had no chemical weapons for many years and this policy is unchanged. The UK and its allies are continuing to press for early agreement at the conference on disarmament in Geneva, for a total and verifiable ban on the development, production, stockpiling and use of chemical weapons.

    Royal Dockyard, Devonport

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence when he intends to annouce any proposed changes in the status and managerial arrangements for Her Majesty's dockyard, Devonport; and if he will make a statement.

    No decisions have been taken on the future management arrangements for the royal dockyards. We will announce our views on this matter as soon as possible. Should we propose to introduce any changes, we would engage in full consultation with the work force and others concerned before final decisions are taken.

    Xm-785 Projectile

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is his policy towards the deployment of the XM-785 155mm artillery fired atomic projectile in the light of its capability to be converted into an enhanced radiation nuclear weapon.

    Churchill Class Vessels (Sonar Systems)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what kind of sonar systems are carried by SSN's of the Churchill class.

    Submarines of the Churchill class carry both active and passive sonars.

    Dartmoor Steering Group

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he has received the annual report of the Dartmoor steering group for 1983.

    Yes. A copy of the report has today been placed in the Library. The steering group continues to provide a most useful forum for the discussion of contentious issues relating to the military use of Dartmoor, and my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment and I are glad of this opportunity to thank the steering group for its efforts to reconcile the various conflicting interests.

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    Ethiopia (Famine Relief)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether any of the grain supplies stored in the north-west will be drawn upon as part of the Government's relief programme for the famine in Ethiopia.

    I have been asked to reply.I cannot guarantee to buy grain for relief from any particular source. Our policy is to buy the most readily available cereals which are most suitable for the recipients at the lowest possible price.

    Environment

    Acid Rain

    36.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what action the Government intend to take on the Environment Committee's report on acid rain.

    The Government's response to the Committee's report will be published shortly.

    Rate Capping

    37.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what discussions he has had with local authority associations on his rate capping proposals.

    Local Government Reform

    38.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many submissions he has received since 11 July concerning the proposals to abolish the Greater London council and metropolitan county councils.

    My right hon. Friend continues to receive a number of submissions daily.

    Royal Commission On Environmental Pollution Report)

    39.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects to reply to the tenth report of the Royal Commission on environmental pollution.

    Inner City Partnership Funds (Newcastle)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what steps he will be taking to ensure that the allocation of inner city partnership funds is evenly spread in the partnership are of Newcastle upon Tyne.

    It is for the local authorities concerned to decide their own priorities in the light of their approved programme and the urban programme allocations which they receive.

    Royal Docks (Planning Application)

    41.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement concerning the planning application for an airport in the royal docks.

    After consideration of the Inspector's report of the public local inquiry into this application, my right hon. Friend announced on 14 August that he was disposed to grant outline planning permission for the STOLport subject to a number of conditions.In his report the inspector proposed an alternative to measures put forward at the inquiry for controlling noise levels. He suggested that the airport might be restricted to short-take-off-and-landing type aircraft at least as quiet as the De Haviland Dash 7, with certain exceptions, though he did not provide a definition of such aircraft for the purposes of any condition which might be imposed. My right hon. Friend therefore found it necessary to seek technical advice from the Department of Transport on whether, and if so how, conditions giving effect to such aircraft restrictions could be drafted.In accordance with normal practice, this advice has been sent to all parties to the inquiry for their comments. Representations from the parties are now being considered. When that process is complete, my right hon. Friend will need to decide how best to proceed to a decision on the application.The hon. Gentleman will appreciate that it would not be proper for my right hon. Friend to comment further at this stage.

    Adswood Tip, Stockport

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment why he gave his approval for house building by the side of Adswood tip in Stockport.

    The reasons for allowing the planning appeal in respect of housing development on land close to the Adswood tip in Stockport are fully set out in the decision letter which was issued on 5 July. I will send the hon. Member a copy.

    Falkland Islands (Airport)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the latest cost estimate of the Falklands airport at Mount Pleasant.

    The current estimate of the value of the airfield works at Mount Pleasant is approximately £250 million. The increase over the figure of £215 million announced by the Secretary of State for Defence in June 1983 reflects the addition of work to enable the joint Service use of as many facilities as possible and the conversion of the contractor's camp to provide most of the additional living accommodation required by the Army. These additions have enabled substantial savings to be made in the capital cost of the further works for the Mount Pleasant garrison announced by the Secretary of State for Defence on 21 September 1984. The increase in the airfield estimate also covers some changes in detailed requirements and in electrical and other services.

    County Hall

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will estimate the approximate floor space occupied in County hall by those functions of the Greater London council which will need to be organised on an all London basis together with those of the Inner London education authority presently situated in County hall and adjacent premises.

    Multi-Storey Car Parks

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he has any information as to the number, size and location of local authority owned multi-storey car parks in Greater London and the extent to which the parking lots are disused.

    Construction Industry

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) how many operatives were employed in the construction industry in Scotland at the latest date; and what were the figures for June 1979;(2) how many operatives were employed in the construction industry in England and Wales at the latest available date; and what were the figures for June 1979.

    For Great Britain, at July 1979 it is estimated that there were 995,000 operatives employed in the construction industry compared with a provisional estimate of 752,000 at July 1984. In addition, there were some 343,000 self-employed workers in 1979 but by 1983 this number had increased to 413,000. Later data for self-employed persons are not available.Information for the separate countries is not available.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what plans he has to reduce unemployment in the construction industry.

    The best prospects for increasing employment in the construction industry depend upon the continuing success of the Government's economic strategy—particularly firm control of the money supply, public expenditure and public borrowing, leading to lower interest rates and greater industrial confidence.Output in the construction industry is recovering. In 1983 output (measured at constant 1980 prices) was £21·1 billion, an increase of 4·2 per cent. on 1982. In the first six months of 1984, output totalled £10·87 billion, an increase of 6 per cent. compared to the first six months of 1983. In the first eight months of 1984, new orders for construction amounted to £9 billion, an increase of 7 per cent. over the first eight months of 1983.This recovery is led by the private sector, with new orders for industrial and commercial work in the first eight months of 1984 23 per cent. higher than the comparable period in 1983.Overall employment in the industry, including the self-employed, is currently estimated at around 1½ million. It was broadly stable in 1982 and 1983.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement on the latest unemployment figures in the construction industry.

    The collection of unemployment statistics classified by individual industries was discontinued in May 1982.

    Football Association

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he last met with officials from the Football Association; and what subjects were discussed.

    I met the chairman and general secretary of the Football Association on Wednesday 19 September. We discussed the consuntation exercise I launched on 16 August, on the report of an official working group on football spectator violence.

    Football Hooliganism

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what has been the result of his Department's initiatives to combat football hooliganism.

    My hon. Friend has worked closely with the football authorities to combat violence associated with soccer. A liaison group, comprising representatives of the Government Departments concerned, the football authorities and the police, has been established firstly to oversee precautions against violence during the 1982 World Cup finals in Spain and subsequently to coordinate efforts both at home and abroad; a "blueprint" of precautions to be taken by league clubs was issued at the beginning of the 1983–84 season; and, at my hon. Friend's initiative, the Council of Europe has adopted a recommendation outlining the steps to be taken by all the authorities involved to combat this problem.

    Most recently, my Department has published as a consultation document the report of an interdepartmental working group which considered what further measures might be employed. My hon. Friend is holding a series of meetings to discuss this, following which the Government wil make a further statement.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement on the Minister of Sport's discussions with the Football Association about sanctions against football clubs in relation to incidents of football hooliganism at away matches.

    My hon. Friend has had no discussions with the Football Association specifically to discuss sanctions against football clubs. He last met the chairman and general secretary of the Football Association to discuss my Department's consultative document on measures to counter football hooliganism.

    Polychlorinated Biphenyl (Incineration)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment at which locations in the United Kingdom the incineration of polychlorinated biphenyl is carried out; what controls are exercised over the process; if he is satisfied that adequate precautions are being taken against possible health risks; and if he will make a statement.

    Polychlorinated biphenyls are incinerated in the United Kingdom at the Cleanaway Ltd. plant at Ellesmere Port in Cheshire and the Re-Chem International plant at Pontypool in Gwent. The sites are licensed under the Control of Pollution Act 1974 by the local Waste Disposal Authority; the plants are required to operate according to the best practicable means defined by Her Majesty's industrial air pollution inspectorate of the Health and Safety Executive which monitors emissions to atmosphere; the HSE also implement the relevant provisions of the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974; discharges of liquid effluent are controlled by the respective water authority; the plants are also subject to planning controls, and the statutory nuisance provisions of the Public Health Acts. Both facilities have been visited by my Department's hazardous wastes inspectorate. I understand that there is no substantial evidence of any public health risk arising.

    Merseyside (Ministerial Visit)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement on his visits to Merseyside on 2 October and 18 October.

    I visited Merseyside on 2 October 1984 along with my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister.During the morning, the Prime Minister and I toured some of the housing priority areas in the inner city. This gave the Prime Minister an opportunity to see for herself some of the deplorable housing conditions similar to those I myself had seen on 7 June this year when I toured areas of the city at the invitation of the Liverpool city council.I then accompanied the Prime Minister to Wavertree technology park for the opening of a "meet the buyers" Technomart exhibition. In the afternoon, the Prime Minister and I met members of the Merseyside county council and Liverpool city council before leaving to view the international garden festival and the Albert dock developments.

    With regard to the visit on 19 October I refer the hon. Member to the reply given to the hon. Member for Liverpool, Riverside (Mr. Parry), on Tuesday 23 October at c. 552.

    Local Government Finance

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what changes in the system of financing local government he envisages following the report of the Audit Commission on the impact on local authorities' economy, efficiency and effectiveness of the block grant system; and if he will make a statement.

    When the report was published, my right hon. Friend said that our immediate reaction was that whilst most of its recommendations seem reasonable, we had doubts about a number of arguments on which they were based. We are examining the report in detail. There are no present plans to change the arrangements for distributing block grant. My right hon. Friend announced on 9 October that Department of Environment Ministers would be embarking on a series of studies into various aspects of local government finance, including the rate support grant system.

    Audit Commission

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he proposes to wind up the Audit Commission; and if he will make a statement on its effectiveness.

    We have no intention of winding up the audit Commission, which has done some very useful work, in particular on local government economy, efficiency and effectiveness.

    Water Authorities

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is satisfied that Thames water, and other water authorities, are adhering to the code of practice agreed for providing information to the media; and if he has evidence of any particular water authority which is in default.

    The code of practice on water authorities' relations with the press, drawn up by the Water Authorities' Association in consultation with the Guild of British Newspaper Editors and approved by Ministers, provides for a frank and open relationship between water authorities and the media.I am assured that Thames water and other water authorities are adhering to it.

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    Spain (Tariffs)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) if he will list in the Official Report the tariffs imposed upon British exports by Spain and the tariffs imposed upon Spanish imports by Great Britain for a specimen range of articles;(2) whether Spain has given any assurance that she will reduce the adverse tariff barriers which they practice against British exports to Spain prior to their expected admission to the EEC on 1 January 1986; and if he will make a statement.

    Tariffs apply in trade between Spain and the United Kingdom on a very wide range of items within the responsibility of my Department, and at various rates. If my hon. Friend would care to indicate the items he has in mind, I will send him the details. I am not aware that any assurances have been given about reductions in Spanish tariffs on agricultural and food items before Spain accedes to the European Community.

    Turkey Imports

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what quantity of turkeys were imported into Plymouth from France during the latest three months in 1984 for which figures are available, compared with the same three months in 1983.

    Information available on turkeymeat imported through Plymouth does not identify country of origin. Latest available figures for total fresh and frozen turkeymeat imports through Plymouth, together with the corresponding figures for 1983, are as follows:

    JuneJulyAugust
    1983 (tonnes)247203204
    1984 (tonnes)11631

    Fisheries Policy

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) if he will makea statement on the implications for the United Kingdom fishing industry of the increase in the by catch quota for Danish pout;(2) if he will place in the Library a copy of the document which allows an increase to 18 per cent. in the by catch quota for Danish pout trawlers;(3) what scientific arguments were used by the Government against the increase in the by catch quota; and what he estimates will be the effect on white fish stocks of the increase;(4) whether he is satisfied with the common fisheries policy conservation policy; and what will be the effect on it of the increase in the by catch quota.

    The temporary derogation from the bycatch rules applying to the Norway pout fishery in the northern and central North sea until 31 May 1985, which was agreed by the Council of Ministers (Fisheries) on 10 September, is set out in Council Regulation (EEC) No. 2665/84 of 18 September 1984. It was published in the Official Journal of the European Communities, No. L253 on 21 September, which is available in the Library of the House.The regulations on technical conservation measures under the Common Fisheries Policy represent a valuable framework for the long term conservation of stocks. The detailed rules are inevitably subject to review from time to time, taking account of changing patterns in the exploitation of fisheries, the state of fish stocks and developments in scientific understanding.The Commission originally proposed in May that the permitted bycatch percentage in the Norway pout fishery should be increased to 20 per cent. for eight months each year on a permanent basis. We objected strongly to this on the grounds that the proposal was not based on any scientific recommendation and that there had been no scientific study of its implications for white fish stocks, in the absence of internationally available data on the existing pattern of the Norway pout fishery and on the breakdown of the bycatches. In the course of the lengthy and difficult negotiations at the 10 September Council, where we were totally isolated on our opposition to the Commission's proposal, we succeeded in securing a number of major changes which have a significant effect on the original proposals.The increase in bycatch limit, instead of being permanent, was agreed as a temporary derogation to last to 31 May 1985 only. The overall bycatch limit was increased from 10 per cent. to 18 per cent. and not 20 per cent. as originally proposed, while within this figure the limit for species other than whiting was reduced to 8 per cent. (as in the original proposal). We secured agreement on new arrangements for the effects of the bycatch limit to be monitored and the results reported to Brussels, which will be very helpful in assessing the true impact of the bycatch arrangements for the first time. The Commission also undertook to adopt a regulation by management committee procedure laying down sampling procedures for enforcing bycatch limits on the use of small mesh nets: work on this regulation which should of permanent value in improving enforcement both at sea and on landing is proceeding as a matter of urgency. As part of a package agreed by the Council, which will particularly affect Denmark, the TAC for North sea sprat was reduced, following scientific advice, and national quotas introduced for the first time, thus limiting the potential damage to juvenile herring. The TAC for Clyde herring (all of which goes to our own fishermen) was increased by 500 tonnes and the Commission undertook to study the possibility of increases on sole in the English Channel: we expect to see proposals on this shortly.The overall package agreed on 10 September thus contained a number of advantages from the point of view of the United Kingdom fishing industry. The effect of the temporary change in the bycatch limit in the Norway pout fishery is likely to be some increase in the total bycatch, particularly of whiting, towards the end of this year and early next. This is, however, unlikely to be such as to have any significant impact of future stock levels: recruitment to the whiting stock next year is expected to be above average, a point which was frequently emphasised in the negotiations by those favouring the original proposal. United Kingdom fishermen, who are currently not taking up our full whiting quota, are unlikely to suffer any reduction in their effective fishing opportunities as a result of the Council's decision.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he is satisfied with the monitoring of common fisheries policy quotas.

    The Commission has shown determination to improve the enforcement of quotas this year and has already closed some 20 fisheries to the vessels of other member states.We consider that there is still room for further improvement, however, and the introduction of Community logbooks for fishing vessels early in 1985 will provide an additional mechanism to improve quota enforcement.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food at what intervals fishermen's logbooks are due to be available for inspection; and what is the average delay before such inspection is possible.

    Under the procedures to be introduced early next year, fishermen will have to complete a logbook at least once a day at sea and also at the time of any inspection at sea. On return to port completed logbooks and landings declarations should be handed over or despatched within 48 hours of completion of landing and the copies retained for one year. Thus they will be required to be available for inspection at any time by member states' enforcement authorities.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he is satisfied with the part played by the European Community inspectorate in ensuring compliance with community fishing rules.

    The Community inspectorate, which was set up at the insistence of this Government, has reinforced the monitoring work of the Commission by making enquiries in member states, including the investigation of alleged false catch reporting in the Dutch mackerel and sole fisheries. We expect such investigations to continue to produce marked improvements in the enforcement of quota observance.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement as to why fishing was prohibited to the fishing fleet within the six miles of the coast line around Start Point, Prawl Point and Bolt Tail, between latitude 50 21'N on the east side and longitude 4 W on the west side; and why these conditions were not mentioned at the management committee meeting held in London which preceded the opening of the south west fishery.

    The prohibition, which relates only to vessels of 10 metres registered length and over, was introduced to protect the local fixed fishing grounds. This was clearly stated at the consultative meeting with the industry on 3 October by the sea fisheries inspectorate. This measure was an integral part of the general management arrangements for the fishery which are aimed at balancing the interests of all concerned.

    Farmers (Outgoers Scheme)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, of those farmers who have been accepted under the outgoers scheme how many have asked for payment (a) as loss of profits and (b) as capital.

    Those who have now been given the chance to become outgoers will indicate the sort of payment they have chosen, when they submit their claims for payment. To date very few claims have been received and so no meaningful analysis can yet be made of the numbers applying for each type of payment.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what percentage of the total quota the milk, made available by those who have applied under the outgoers scheme, represents; and what criteria the Government have used to decide which cases to accept under the scheme.

    Producers who have expressed an interest in becoming outgoers account for just over 9 per cent. of the total England and Wales quota though it is to be expected that by no means all would in the event decide to go ahead if and when a firm offer is made to them. As the scheme is over-subscribed, priority is being given to small producers most dependent on dairying (those with less than 200,000 litres of quota). We have excluded a small number of producers for whom milk is a relatively small part of their enterprise.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is his policy toward those dairy farmers who had applied under the outgoers scheme but have been rejected; and whether they will be given time to apply for special case consideration.

    None of those who have made valid applications within the terms of the scheme have yet been rejected. Besides those currently being invited to join the scheme others may eventually be given the chance to join depending on how many in the first tranche of offers decide not to go ahead. All those who have applied to be outgoers have, like all other milk producers, been able to apply at the same time for special case consideration and many have done so.

    Agricultural Surpluses

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether it is his policy that quotas will play a role in reducing surpluses in European Economic Community agricultural products other than milk.

    In general the Government favour action through the price mechanism as the best way to reduce agricultural surpluses and their contribution to CAP costs. This method cuts cost directly, reduces the incentive to over-production, encourages consumption and avoids distortions of the market and administrative problems which quotas can entail.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement setting out the amount of various surplus foodstuffs in public and private stores financed by the Common Market; and if he will publish a table showing the comparable levels around the same date in each of the previous 10 years.

    The information is as follows:

    EC Foodstuffs in Intervention
    '000 tonnes
    Butter1,032as at 11 October 1984
    SMP886as at 11 October 1984
    Wheat4,028as at 18 October 1984
    Barley1,266as at 18 October 1984
    Rye331as at 18 October 1984
    Durum805as at 18 October 1984
    Beef457as at 30 September 1984
    Olive Oil82as at 15 September 1984
    OilseedsNilas at 15 September 1984
    EC Foodstuffs in Private Storage
    '000 tonnes
    Butter215as at 11 October 1984
    Pigmeat62as at 30 August 1984
    Dried Fruit54as at 30 September 1984
    Cheese118as at 11 October 1984
    Beef74as at 12 October 1984

    I will publish the information for earlier years as soon as possible.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what was the total cost of the common agricultural policy in each year from 1973 to 1983, respectively; if he will publish a further table showing the amount in each year which was expended on the storage, dumping and destruction of surplus foodstuffs and wine; and what estimate has been made of the cost of the common agricultural policy and of storage, dumping and destruction in the years 1984 and 1985, respectively.

    The following table sets out the total cost of the CAP from 1973 with estimates for 1984 and 1985.

    (mecu)
    19733,805
    19743,230
    19754,708
    19765,796
    19777,122
    19789,000
    197910,880
    198011,943
    198111,742
    198213,077
    198316,743
    *198419,146
    198518,796
    * Draft Supplementary and Amending Budget.
    Draft Budget.
    Expenditure under the CAP is not categorised in the way described. However, the following figures represent expenditure from the guarantee section of the European agricultural guidance and guarantee fund since 1979 on export refunds, internal disposal subsidies and public intervention storage for commodities which have been in structural surplus in this period (cereals, sugar, wine and milk products). Comparable figures for previous years are not readily available. Estimates for 1984 and 1985 are also given:

    (mecu)
    19796,407
    19806,644
    19815,897
    19826,259
    19837,811
    19849,890
    198510,169
    * Draft Supplementary and Amending Budget.
    Draft Budget.

    Milk Quotas

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he expects to announce (a) the quota for individual direct sellers, (b) the quota for wholesale milk producers and (c) the rate of super-levy.

    Many direct sellers and virtually all wholesale producers in England and Wales have now received a definitive allocation of primary quota and the remaining producers will be informed shortly. Every effort is being made to complete the task of examining special case applications as quickly as possible.Thanks to the disciplined responses of producers as well as the drought we are within our wholesale quota for the whole of England and Wales for the first two quarters of this year. That being the case, under formula B, no individual producer will be liable for supplementary levy this autumn. It is still too early to predict the likely outcome for the year as a whole.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what information he has regarding the current levels of milk prouction on other European Economic Communities countries.

    The latest published information on deliveries of cows milk to dairies in all member states of the European Community is shown in the table. The figures exclude on-farm use, use for animal feed and in general use for direct sales. The data are provisional and are therefore subject to amendment.

    Table: Cows Milk Delivered to Dairies, 1984
    '000 tonnes
    AprilMayJuneJuly
    Germany2,303·702,446·992,185N/A
    France2,515·402,844·102,560·802,297·80
    Italy783·83821·70N/AN/A
    Netherlands1,143·101,240·301,133·401,180·10
    Belgium299·36365·05N/AN/A
    Luxembourg25·7030·3424·84N/A
    Ireland638·30835·50773·70694·74
    Denmark458·90494·60450·60431·20
    Greece35·0938·4940·6940·95

    Source: Eurostat.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he has now received a comprehensive report from the European Community Commissioner regarding the application of the quota system in other member states.

    At the meeting of the Council of Agriculture Ministers on 17–18 September the Agricultural Commissioner gave an oral progress report on the implementation of the milk supplementary levy. He said that most member states had the necessary national legislation in force and that considerable progress had been made in establishing the administrative procedures. I said then, and again at the Council this week, that it was essential that the levies should be applied by all Member States according to the agreed rules. This was fully supported by the Commissioner.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many dairy farmers have applied for consideration as (a) special cases, (b) exceptional hardship, (c) direct sellers and (d) outgoers; how many have been accepted in each case; and how many producer-retailers have failed to register as direct sellers.

    (a) Special Cases

    By the closing date for applications of 28 August 23,189 producers had applied for special case treatment. Divisional offices have examined over 22,000 applications out of which over 5,800 claims or part claims have been rejected as not megting all the requirements for a special case claim, while the others have been passed to local panels for consideration. Local panels have taken decisions on well over 10,000 special case claims and they should complete their work during November.

    (b) Exceptional Hardship

    By 19 October the dairy produce quota tribunal had taken decisions on over 400 cases out of a total of 4,396 applications for additional quota under the exceptional hardship provisions. Over 190 applicants had been notified of the decisions involving awards of approximately 5·3 million litres so far. The tribunal, which has just been enlarged is expected to complete its work on special case appeals and exceptional hardship claims by the end of the year.

    (c) Direct Sellers

    3,522 producers applied for registration as direct sellers and for allocation of quota by the deadline of 28 August this year. All such producers who were engaged in direct sales on 2 April this year will, prima facie, be eligible for registration and entitled to quota allocations, but the applications are still being processed.

    It is not possible to give a firm figure as to how many producer-retailers failed to register as a number of producers with valid milk and dairies licences ceased production shortly before the introduction of the quota arrangements and have no need of quota. Eighteen statutory deadline.

    (d) Outgoers

    Out of 4,826 applications received, 2,747 producers, offering 275 million litres, have been offered the chance to become outgoers. Some have decided they do not want to proceed—others will then be given the chance.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what information he has about the extent to which other European Economic Community countries have honoured their obligations on the reduction of milk production; and if he will provide separate information in respect of each other member state.

    Milk quotas set for member states relate to a 12-month April–March period. It is not possible to estimate on the basis of the provisional figures so far available whether total deliveries will be within quota by the end of 1984–85. The information available on deliveries in relation to required cutbacks is summarised as follows:

    Cutback on 1983–84 deliveries required to stay within 1984–85 wholesale quotasCutback achieved April–July 1984 against same period 1983
    per cent.per cent.
    France-2·5+1·7
    Netherlands-6·8-3·9
    Ireland+1·7+5·8
    Denmark-6·6-4·1
    Greece+10·0+0·7
    Germany-7·8-1·9
    Italy-2·6+1·1
    Belgium-4·0-0·1
    Luxembourg+3·7-2·6
    United Kingdom-6·2-7·5

    Source: Eurostat.

    The foregoing figures are subject to revision. In addition, production is believed to have fallen more sharply in most member states in the August-September period.

    Council Of Agriculture Ministers

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what was the outcome of the Council of Agriculture Ministers' meeting held on 22 and 23 October; and if he will make a statement.

    With my hon. Friend the Minister of State I represented the United Kingdom at the Council of Agriculture Ministers in Luxembourg on 22–23 October.I expressed our deep concern that the Commission had rushed through proposals for export sales of butter at very low prices. I said that this measure raised important issues because the markets able to take such large quantities of butter were limited and because of the budgetary implications.These should first have been considered at a political level. The measure also appeared difficult to reconcile with the Community's obligations in GATT and threatened to damage the Community's credibility with its trading partners. There was considerable support for our views in the Council. The Commisssioner insisted that the decisions taken, which include the provision for a special sale of butter on the Community market, are within the Commission's powers through Management Committee procedures.On the milk supplementary levy, I stressed once again that it is essential for all member states to implement the levy system promptly and fairly in accordance with the agreed rules. I urged the Commissioner to ensure that this was done. The Commissioner accepted that there must be no weakening in the application of the supplementary levy.I also pressed the Commission to bring forward urgently proposals to provide the flexibility needed for dealing with the problems of producers with mixed wholesale and direct sale businesses. The Commissioner undertook to consider this along with a number of other points on the implementation of the system raised by other member states.The Council agreed on a consumption subsidy for olive oil of £30·81 per 100 kg for the 1984–85 marketing year. It also agreed that the Commission should be given greater power to adjust this subsidy in the course of the year if the prices for competing vegetable oils diverge markedly from the forecasts on which the Council took its decision.The Council had a further detailed discussion on ways of reforming the wine regime to tackle the surpluses and the escalating costs in this sector. No agreement was possible and the Presidency will be considering how further negotiations on this issue should be handled.The Council agreed on a further extension in the present structures measures until 31 December to provide more time for the negotiation of the new arrangements. I was supported by the French Minister in pressing for account to be taken in the final agreement of the importance of conservation in relation to agricultural developments.I urged the Commission to take action to investigate fully the action taken by the Dutch Government in allowing glasshouse producers gas at a lower price than industrial users. I said that this appeared to conflict with the agreement entered into with the Commission. The Commission assured the Council that they were investigating the position and had sought further information urgently from the Dutch authorities.