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Volume 67: debated on Monday 12 November 1984

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Written Answers To Questions

Monday 12 November 1984

Education And Science

Expenditure

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will make a statement about expenditure on education and science in 1985–86.

As my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer announced in his statement today, provision for education and science will be increased by £210 million to £13,590 million from the figures in Cmnd. 9143 after allowing for the abolition of the national insurance surcharge from April 1985. Three-quarters of the programme is local authority current expenditure which, after allowing for the transfer of funds to the Manpower Services Commission, is increased by nearly £300 million. There is a net reduction of £24 million in vote expenditure.2. The level of services that can be afforded within the cash plans will again depend on the ability of local authorities and others to contain their costs, including those of pay settlements. The policies outlined as follows are compatible with the Government's assumption of pay increases of 3 per cent. in 1985–86 for those groups for which the Government are responsible.LOCAL AUTHORITY EXPENDITURE ON EDUCATION, SCHOOL MEALS AND MILK3. Within total relevant planned current expenditure in England in 1985–86 of over £21,000 million, it is for local authorities to decide the balance between services, taking into account their statutory obligations and Government policies. The total allocated to education in the Government's plans is £10,259 million. This represents an increase of about 6 per cent. in cash over the sum allocated to the service in 1984–85 after allowing for the abolition of the National Insurance Surcharge and the transfer of some funding to the Manpower Services Commission. In addition, as in the last two years, part of total current expenditure will be treated as an amount not allocated between services. This is in recognition of the fact that some local authorities will spend more than the Government consider to be desirable on services including education and need more time to bring spending into line with Government plans. The size of the sum in 1985–86 will be £600 million.4. Within the planned total for expenditure on education, the level of spending by individual local education authorities will depend upon their local decisions and upon their success in containing costs. If local authorities with education responsibilities spend at their provisional 1985–86 targets, their expenditure would in aggregate increase by about 2·7 per cent. compared with 1984–85 budgets at a time when school rolls are continuing to fall.5. The figure of £10,259 million includes £280 million for school meals and milk. A number of local education authorities have been able to make substantial reductions in net expenditure under this head. I look to authorities to review the provision that they make for school meals in order to secure savings in line with the Government's plans thereby releasing resources to support policies more directed to the educational benefit of pupils and students.

Schools

6. Overall, school rolls will continue to fall and the plans assume that authorities will secure a further reduction in the number of school teachers they employ. Provided the cost of employing staff can be contained, there should be scope for a continuing modest improvement in pupil-teacher ratios, compared with January 1984. This would give authorities the opportunity to make some progress with the implementation of policies for schools outlined in my speech at Sheffield earlier this year. The situation will vary between authorities, depending on factors such as their expenditure targets and their ability to redeploy teachers quickly in response to falling rolls. I look forward to discussions with the local education authorities about the paper "Schoolteacher Numbers and Deployment in the Longer Term", which the Department made available last September.

7. Authorities are continuing to make significant savings through taking surplus places out of use and remain on course to take over 1 million places out of use by March 1987. I have agreed with the local authority associations that new targets should be adopted for taking further surplus places out of use by 1987 and for future years and I shall be discussing with them what these should be.

8. The latest firm information on expenditure on books shows a significant increase in the level of provision per pupil between 1981–82 and 1982–83. If costs can be contained and savings made elsewhere — for example, in caretaking and cleaning cost — there should be scope for some further improvement in expenditure per pupil compared to 1982–83 levels in many authorities both in the provision of books and equipment and expenditure on repairs and maintenance.

Non-Advanced Further Education

9. The overall level of resources proposed should enable authorities to respond to the growing and varied demand for NAFE. There are inevitable uncertainties about student numbers. The plans assume some limited increase in the participation rate of 16 and 17 year olds in future years.

10. The student: staff ratio slackened by about 2 per cent. between 1982–83 and 1983–84. The expenditure plans as they relate to NAFE imply some limited tightening of the SSR between 1983–84 and 1985–86. It should be possible in aggregate for the 1982–83 level of provision per student on books and equipment to be maintained in the great majority of local authorities if other non-teaching costs can be restrained.

11. The plans for net expenditure on NAFE assume the transfer of £61·75 million to the Manpower Services Commission following the White Paper 'Training for Jobs' (Cmnd. 9135) to enable it to purchase a more significant proportion of work-related non-advanced further education.

In-Service Training

12. Both the Government and the local authorities attach importance to in-service training as a means of further developing the skills of teachers in schools and in further education in response to changing demands and priorities. I have agreed with leaders of the local authority associations that the scheme of in-service training grants first introduced last year should be further enlarged in 1985–86. Grant of £17·5 million will be available in the 1985–86 financial year, and three new priority areas will be included in the scope of the scheme. These will apply to a special programme to support the introduction of general certificate of secondary education; the teaching of craft, design and technology in schools; staff development associated with professional, industrial and commercial updating (PICKUP) programmes in further education, and the updating of staff on work-related courses.

Education Support Grants (ESGs)

13. The Education (Grants and Awards) Act 1984 comes into operation for the first time in 1985–86. The Government intend to support some £30 million of expenditure on activities in support of national priorities through £21 million of grant The choice of activities to be supported follows detailed consultation with the local authority associations and the breadth of support is reflected in the fact that all but one authority have bid for support in 1985–86 and that each of the eleven activities for which bids were invited was oversubscribed. Decisions on the allocations to authorities of expenditure to be supported under the Act will be announced next month.

Capital Expenditure

14. Provision for local authority capital expenditure on education will be £272 million. This represents a reduction on plans of £18 million. The reduced provision should permit continuing progress with the removal of surplus school places and with selective re-equipment in further education. The Department will be writing as soon as possible to local education authorities to inform them of the allocations within the education block.

Higher Education

15. The cash available for each sector is set out below. The figures allow for a tuition fee of £520 for home full-time and sandwich course students on courses designated for mandatory student awards. The UGC and NAB plans for student admissions in 1985–86, together with admissions to direct grant institutions, are likely to satisfy the revised lower level of demand for higher education, as indicated by the projection in the "Report on Education No. 100".

Student Awards

16. There will be a net reduction in the previously planned level of spending on student awards in 1985 and the parental contribution scale will be adjusted upwards in line with earnings in the past year; this means that some 10,000 families who would otherwise have been drawn into contributing will be relieved of the need to do so. However, minimum maintenance awards will no longer be made to those whose parents would otherwise be liable to meet the full cost of maintenance and contributions from those in the middle and upper reaches of the income scale will be increased. In addition the income scale will be extended, for those most able to pay, to include a contribution up to the maximum of the designated tuition fee. Details of the new rates of award and revised contribution scales will be announced later.

Universities

17. Subject to parliamentary approval, the total of recurrent grant for universities in the UGC list for 1985–86 academic year will be £1,309 million. This total has been set at a level consistent with previously planned economies and with the Government's 3 per cent. assumption for pay. To the extent that the academic year falls partly in the 1986–87 financial year the grant is subject to review in the normal way.

18. The revised grant for the 1984–85 academic year will be £1,262 million. This takes account of the revised pay assumption for the period 1 April to 31 July 1985.

19. Equipment grant for the academic year 1985–86 will be £90·4 million, a cash increase of 3 per cent. compared with 1984–85. In addition, I intend, subject to further discussion with the UGC, to make available £10 million in each of financial years 1985–86 and 1986–87 to enable them to operate a scheme for the improvement of laboratory and equipment provision in a few carefully selected centres of research.

Advanced Further Education

20. Followng consultation with the local authority associations, I have determined under regulations made under the Local Government Planning and Land Act 1980 the quantum of advanced further education (AFE) expenditure within the predetermined pool in 1985–86 at £620 million. After allowing for the abolition of the national insurance surcharge, this represents an increase of over 7·5 per cent. compared to the size of the quantum for 1984–85. The revised total provides for a further overall increase in student numbers and a shift in the balance of students towards science and engineering in 1985–86. Compared to existing provision the total implies continuing reductions in unit costs and in lecturer numbers, leading to a student : staff ratio averaging 12 : 1 in the 1985–86 academic year. The National Advisory Body is at present considering the method of distributing the quantum for 1985–86 between authorities including the possibility that a limited sum from within the quantum might be used to support some modest new initiatives. I will decide on each authority's share of the quantum later in the year in the light of the NAB's advice.

21. Following consultations with the Voluntary Sector Consultative Council I have determined the quantum of AFE expenditure at voluntary colleges grant-aided solely by my Department at £41 million. I will decide its distribution between the colleges later this year in the light of NAB's advice.

The Science Budget

22. The Science Budget for 1985–86, from which the research councils receive their grants in aid, will be £587 million, an increase in cash of £14 million over previous published plans for that year. Of this, I am setting aside £6 million to be used, in the light of advice from the ABRC, to assist research councils to make progress with the plans for major restructuring on which they have embarked. These plans will as they are implemented release substantial resources for redeployment to areas of high scientific promise. The remaining £8 million of the £14 million increase will be distributed following advice from the ABRC. My hope is that this will enable Councils to fund more university research projects of the highest quality.

Teachers

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many teachers have been struck off the list of qualified teachers by his Department in the current year; how this compares to previous years; for what offences teachers have been struck off; and what measures are taken to identify and remove such teachers.

During the financial year 1983–84, 36 persons were totally excluded and 3 partially excluded from employment as teachers on the grounds of their misconduct. The comparable figures for the two previous years are as follows:

YearTotal ExclusionsPartial Exclusions
1982–83363
1981–82405
The majority of such exclusions followed sexual, financial and drug offences. The individuals are identified from reports made by their employers and by the police. To make exclusion effective the Department gives details in confidence to local education authorities and all other bodies concerned with the employment of teachers.

Mathematics Teachers

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what percentage of teachers of mathematics in maintained middle schools had no recorded qualification in that subject at the latest available date; and what steps he is taking to reduce this percentage.

In middle schools, mathematics is taught partly by specialist and partly by class teachers. In a survey of 48 maintained middle schools for pupils aged 9–13 undertaken in 1979–80 HM inspectors found 579 teachers teaching mathematics, of whom 110 (19 per cent.) had studied mathematics as part of a first degree or as a main subject in their teaching certificate. Of the 35 teachers who taught mathematics for more than half of their week, 21 (60 per cent.) were so qualified.I have described the measures which the Government are taking to improve initial training in mathematics and the supply of specialist teachers of the subject in the answers I am giving today to my hon. Friend's other questions. These measures will be relevant to raising the level of qualification of those teaching mathematics in middle schools.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what efforts he is making to attract more mathematics graduates into teaching, following the recommendation of the Cockcroft report.

The Government have maintained the number of initial teacher training places in mathematics within a total provision of training places for intending secondary teachers which has been reduced because of falling secondary school rolls. Recruitment to post-graduate courses in mathematics has been good for the last four years and we expect the supply of newly-trained mathematics teachers to be adequate in relation to the number of vacancies for them. The Department's recruitment literature stresses the good opportunities for mathematics graduates within the teaching profession.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he has any plans to review and evaluate the courses provided for the initial training of future mathematics teachers following the remarks in the Cockcroft report on the variety of practice that existed at the time of publication of that report.

All initial teacher training courses, including those for intending mathematics teachers, will be reviewed over the next three to four years by the new Council for the Accreditation of Teacher Education. Courses will be assessed against a set of rigorous criteria, which include requirements relating to the academic and professional content of courses and specify a minimum amount of time to be devoted to the study of teaching mathematics in primary training.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what percentage of teachers of mathematics in maintained secondary schools had no recorded qualification in that subject at the latest available date ; and what steps he is taking to reduce this percentage.

The latest information currently available relates to November 1977. when it is estimated that 29 per cent. of teachers then teaching mathematics in maintained secondary schools in England and Wales did not have a recorded qualification in mathematics (no information was collected about qualifications at or below A level). A new survey of secondary school staffing was carried out in January this year and results will be available shortly.My right hon. Friend wishes to see a reduction in the amount of teaching carried out by teachers whose qualifications are not well matched to their task. The steps which the Government are taking to achieve this were set out in the White Paper "Teaching Quality" published last year. In particular, the Department pays grant to local education authorities to release for further training teachers of mathematics in secondary schools who are inadequately qualified in the subject.

Overseas Students

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he intends to set a maximum fee for overseas students; and if he will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend sets maximum fees only for overseas students who began their courses before 1 September 1980, who are excluded from the effects of the Government's policy that overseas students should pay fees that cover the cost of their education. For other overseas students, institutions and local education authorities are free to determine the fee to be charged in accordance with the Government's policy and in the light of their own circumstances.

Glue Sniffing

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what steps he is taking to control glue sniffing among schoolchildren.

As part of the Government's policy for tackling solvent misuse among young people, the Department issued in June a safety in education bulletin which included advice about solvent misuse. Copies of the bulletin have been sent to local education authorities for distribution to schools and colleges.

Inspectors' Reports

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will detail the current procedures for reviewing reports of independent schools' inspectors; and if he has any plans to alter them.

Her Majesty's Inspectorate reports the findings of its formal inspections to me. Since January 1983 I have published all these reports, as written by Her Majesty's Inspectorate. The reports are issued to the local education authorities, schools and colleges concerned a fortnight before being made more widely available. Those responsible are asked to inform the Department within three months of the actions they consider necessary in the light of Her Majesty's Inspectorate's report, what they plan to do, and what implications the report may have for other schools or colleges in the area. I intend to continue these arrangements, unchanged.

Scottish Universities (Age Participation Rates)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what information his Department has from the 1981 census on age-participation rates at universities in Scotland by social class.

None. The 1981 census identified full-time students but not by the type of institution they attended.

University Students (Statistics)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what information his Department now has from the 1981 census on the percentage of young people at university by social class of father; and how these percentages compare with corresponding figures for 1971.

None. The 1981 census identified students in full-time education, but not the type of institution attended.However, information about the social classes of the parents of students accepted for universities through the Universities' Central Council of Admissions (UCCA) in 1983 was published in table E8 of the statistical supplement to its 21st report, a copy of which will be placed in the Library. Similar information has been published by UCCA since 1980.

University Grants Committee (Computers)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many computers are available to the University Grants Committee.

The University Grants Committee has a small microcomputer and has access to a computer bureau, and to the Department of Education and Science computer at Darlington.

Independent Schools

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he is satisfied with his powers under section 71 of the Education Act 1944 in respect of the conduct of independent schools.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will list in the Official Report those independent schools on which a notice of complaint has been served under section 71 of the Education Act 1944 in each of the last 10 years and those schools which have consequently been deleted from the independent schools register.

  • †Ivey House school, Shepton Mallet
  • Holmewood House school, Tunbridge Wells
  • St. Anne's high school, South Shields
  • *The High school, Swindon
  • *Freightliners Free school, London N7

1976

  • Presentation college, Reading
  • Barbara Speake stage school, London W3
  • †St Nicholas school, Bath
  • The School, Oxford
  • *Picton House school for girls, Swindon

1977

  • Cotswood House school, Nottingham
  • Marsden school, Walmer, Kent
  • Kitebrook House school, Moreton-in-Marsh, Glos

1979

  • Bnois Jerusholaim girls school, London N16
  • †The Associated Arts school, London SW19

1981

Emanuel school, London SW11

1982

  • †St David's school, London SW7
  • Mary Underwood prep and theatre school, Rochester
  • Broughton House, Brant Broughton, Lincs
  • *Durnford House, Evesham

1983

  • Kingsley prep, Wirral
  • Mary Underwood prep & theatre school, Maidstone
  • Howsham Hall, York
  • *Franklin House, London N22
  • †Hillycroft school, Tunbridge Wells

1984

  • †Coventry Christian academy, Coventry
  • Talmud Torah Machzikei Hadass, London E5
  • North London Talmud Torah, London N16
  • St Neots school, Nr Basingstoke
  • Scarisbrick Hall, Ormskirk, Lancs
  • The Goddard school, Swindon
  • †Hillycroft school, Tunbridge Wells
  • Acorn school, Romford
  • Duff-Miller Tutors, London SW5
  • Howsham Hall, York
  • Zakariya Girls' High school, Batley
  • * denotes those schools struck off the Register of Independent Schools under section 72.
  • † denotes the schools which have closed of their own volition.

Corporal Punishment

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether the proposals outlined in the Queen's Speech concerning the rights of parents to exempt their children from corporal punishment will extend to those parents whose children are educated under the assisted places scheme.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether the proposals outlined in the Queen's Speech concerning the rights of parents to exempt their children from corporal punishment will extend to those children whose school fees are paid, in sum or in part, by the Ministry of Defence.

Boarding School Allowance Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what information he has as to in how many schools currently educating children of Her Majesty's forces personnel under the boarding school allowance scheme those children constitute, (a) less than 10 per cent., (b) more than 10 per cent., (c) more than 20 per cent., (d) more than 30 per cent., (e) more than 40 per cent., (f) more than 50 per cent. and (g) more than 75 per cent. of its pupils.

Secondary Schools (Closures)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is his policy regarding amending proposals put forward by local authorities to close or amalgamate secondary schools pursuant to the Education Act 1980, before those proposals are adopted by the local authority concerned.

It is for local education authorities, in consultation with the governors of voluntary aided and special agreement schools, to take a view on the form and pattern of secondary education best suited to local circumstances and the preferences of parents and, when necessary, to publish proposals as required by the Education Act 1980. Where such proposals fall to my right hon. Friend to decide, he may approve or reject them or may approve them with such modifications which, after consultation with the local education authority concerned, he thinks desirable. However his powers of modification are limited since he cannot so change proposals as to make it impossible to regard what is there as still being the original in modified form.Within these limits, my right hon. Friend's policy is to exercise this power where he has certain reservations but is otherwise minded to give his approval, to bring proposals more into line with his policies, particularly those set out in circulars 2/80, 2/81 and 4/82. Once proposals have been determined by the local authority or approved by my right hon. Friend, he may also, at the request of the authority, modify any proposals which they are required to implement by virtue of the Act.

Cash Limits

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he intends to revise any of the cash limits within his programme in 1984–85.

My right hon. Friend proposes to reduce the cash limit on the Central Administration vote by £422,000 from £49,991,000 to £49,569,000. This reduction results from a misallocation of provision transferred from the Property Services Agency in respect of accommodation charges. This announcement reflects one being made by my right hon. Friend the Attorney-General, which, subject to parliamentary approval of the necessary supplementary estimate, will make the corresponding increase to the cash limit on the Treasury Solicitor's vote. class IX vote 9.

Attorney-General

Supreme Court (Official Referees)

69.

asked the Attorney-General if he is satisfied with the rate of disposal of cases by the official referees of the Supreme Court.

Her Majesty has recently appointed two new circuit judges to dispose of official referees' business, thereby bringing the total number of official referees in London to six. These additional appointments should increase the rate of disposal and reduce the backlog of cases. The position will be kept under review.

County Courts

70.

asked the Attorney-General whether Her Majesty's Government have any proposals for increasing the staffing level in county courts in England and Wales; and if he will make a statement.

Staffing levels are maintained as necessary to ensure a satisfactory level of service having regard to the predicted volume of work in particular courts. Within the overall ceiling of the Department additional manpower is allocated to deal with increases in the volume of business.

Defamation

asked the Attorney-General if he will seek to make legal aid available in respect of cases of defamation.

I have nothing to add to the reply I gave to my hon. Friend on 19 March 1984 at column 698–99.

Duties

asked the Attorney-General what are the duties by statute and convention of the Attorney-General.

My duties, whether deriving from statute, from common law or simply from convention, are too numerous, and in some cases would require too detailed an exposition, to be described both comprehensively and accurately in a parliamentary answer. But the following is a summary list of the more important.

I am the Government's principal legal adviser and, as such, give legal advice to the Cabinet and Cabinet Committees collectively and to my Ministerial colleagues individually (or to the officials of their Departments). This advice may have to concern any aspect of Government business and may involve any branch of the law, whether civil or criminal, public or private, domestic or international. I frequently advise on questions concerning proposed legislation and I have a special responsibility in respect of issues of legal policy (for example, retrospective effect, unusual powers or burden of proof) arising in connection with such legislation. I answer in the House of Commons for the Lord Chancellor and his Department as well as for myself and my own Department, for the Department of the Director of Public Prosecutions and for the Treasury Solicitor's Department, and I am responsible for the carriage through the House of Commons of legislation which is promoted by the Lord Chancellor.
I have a general responsibility for litigation to which the Crown (or, in international tribunals, Her Majesty's Government in the United Kingdom) is a party and I may be asked to advise on specific issues in relation to such litigation: I regularly supervise the conduct of the more important cases. I am myself the formal plaintiff or defendant in proceedings under the Crown Proceedings Act 1974 where there is no Government Department that is specifically authorised under the Act for that purpose. In my capacity as guardian of the public interest, I bring proceedings ex officio to secure the observance of legal obligations, especially by public bodies or by private persons alleged to be committing a public wrong, and I authorise such proceedings to be brought in my name at the relation of other persons. It is in this capacity also that I bring proceedings for contempt of court. It is also my responsibility to initiate proceedings to have somebody declared a vexatious litigant. I act for the Crown, in its capacity as parens patriae, in charity matters and have a variety of functions in that field which sometimes involve my being a party to litigation to determine the duties of charitable trustees or to protect the interests of the objects of charity.
I nominate counsel to act for the Crown in both civil and criminal proceedings. In criminal matters, I superintend the discharge of his functions by the Director of Public Prosecutions and I have certain specific functions of my own in relation to prosecution: for example, prosecutions for certain offences can be brought only by me or with my consent and I also have the power to enter a nolle prosequi. I also have certain functions; in relation to the proceedings of coroners' courts.
The above account relates to my functions as Attorney-General for England and Wales. I have similar, but not in all respects identical, functions in my capacity as Attorney-General for Northern Ireland. In particular, the Director of Public Prosecutions for Northern Ireland operates under my general superintendence.
In addition to these matters in which I function as the legal adviser to the Government or as the representative of the Crown, I also have certain responsibilities, by virtue of my office as Attorney-General, to the two Houses of Parliament. Thus, I have a limited responsibility for advising the House of Commons or any of its Committees on certain aspects of its business and in particular I am a member of the Committee of Privileges and give advice to that Committee. I also advise the House of Lords in peerage cases. In yet a different capacity, but still by virtue of my office as Attorney-General, I have certain duties and responsibilities as leader of the English Bar and as leader of the Northern Ireland Bar.
For a more comprehensive and discursive, though inevitably still incomplete, account of the functions of the Attorney-General, I refer my hon. Friend to the standard legal textbooks and in particular to Professor J. Ll. J. Edwards' seminal work, "The Law Officers of the Crown" (1964), which he has recently supplemented by a further book entitled "The Attorney General, Politics and the Public Interest" (1984).

Treasury Solicitor's Department

asked the Attorney-General whether any change has been made to the class IX, vote 9, cash limit for the Treasury Solicitor's Department.

Subject to parliamentary approval of the necessary supplementary estimate, the cash limit for class IX, vote 9, will be increased by £1,295,000 from £12,062,000 to £13,357,000.An additional £94,000 is required by the Department of the Director of Public Prosecutions for the establishment on 1 January 1985 of a fraud investigation group. Additional provision of £1,220,000 is required as a result of the misallocation of the provision transferred from the Property Services Agency for the property repayment services.

The increase will be partly offset by increased receipts of £19,000. In addition, £422,000 is being transferred from the Department of Education and Science to whom the Property Repayment Services provision was originally misallocated. My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Education is announcing today the consequent reduction to the cash limit on class X, vote 4. The remaining requirement of £873,000 will be charged to the Reserve and has been taken into account in the estimated outturn of the public expenditure planning total for 1984–85 given in the autumn statement on 12 November 1984.

Prime Minister

Coal Industry (Dispute)

asked the Prime Minister if she will arrange for detailed information on the cost of the mining dispute to be collected and made available to Parliament in the manner of the information provided by the Secretary of State for Social Services in relation to the dispute at the computer centre in Tyne and Wear.

The final cost cannot be determined until the strike ends, but the scale of what would be involved for the PSBR if the strike continued until Christmas was given to the House by the Chancellor of the Exchequer on 30 October at column 1184.

Lighthouse Board

asked the Prime Minister if she will seek to introduce public funding to defray the operating and maintenance costs of the lighthouse boards.

Falkland Islands

asked the Prime Minister what is the up-to-date cost of all Government operations in the Falklands since 2 April 1982 and the cost per capita in terms of the Falklands population.

Total extra Government expenditure in connection with the Falkland Islands from 2 April 1982 up to the end of the current financial year is forecast to amount to some £2,100 million, equivalent to just over £1 million per head of population. This includes the cost of recovering the islands following the Argentine invasion.

Nuclear Submarines (Log Books)

asked the Prime Minister whether she is satisfied with the security arrangements for the keeping of log books on nuclear submarines.

The circumstances attending the disappearance of Conqueror's control room log for the period April to September 1982 are being investigated by a Royal Navy board of inquiry. Any lessons arising from this inquiry will be incorporated into our security arrangements.

Local Government Expenditure (London)

asked the Prime Minister what is the total of local government expenditure in London; and if she will break this down by authority in cash and percentage terms.

The information is as follows:

Local Authority Budgeted Net Current Expenditure—1984–85—London
1984–85 budgets1984–85 budgets
£ millionPer cent. of all London
GLC (adjusted for passenger transport)*533·95411·0
Passenger transport*196·0004·0
ILEA899·51318·5
Metropolitan Police PA753·69715·5
City of London57·8861·2
Camden82·1001·7
Greenwich51·2851·1
Hackney66·2041·4
Hammersmith and Fulham48·2171·0
Islington66·4881·4
Kensington and Chelsea34·8860·7
Lambeth80·4421·7
Lewisham61·7911·3
Southwark81·6331·7
Tower Hamlets52·1561·1
Wandsworth56·5421·2
Westminster61·7581·3
Barking and Dagenham58·3751·2
Barnet95·0592·0
Bexley75·0651·5
Brent141·3372·9
Bromley91·5761·9
Croydon105·9052·2
Ealing112·3992·3
Enfield88·6131·8
Haringey112·6262·3
Harrow64·3021·3
Havering84·5851·7
Hillingdon86·3071·8
Hounslow80·0791·6
Kingston-Upon-Thames42·4290·9
Merton56·7791·2
Newham114·8132·4
Redbridge73·9081·5
Richmond-Upon-Thames49·5281·0
Sutton53·9711·1
Waltham Forest97·6462·0
TOTAL ALL LONDON4,869·854100·0
* GLC no longer has responsibility for passenger transport. Passenger transport expenditure is assumed here to be equal to the GLC's budgeted revenue support.

Hms Conqueror (Navigator's Log Book)

asked the Prime Minister if the police have been instructed to make inquiries into the disappearance of the log book from HMS Conqueror.

No. This disappearance is being investigated by a Royal Navy board of inquiry.

Environment

Public Expenditure

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will give details of his public expenditure programmes for 1985–86.

My right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer has announced the main changes to the Government's public expenditure plans for 1985–86 and later years. The following table gives details of the changes in my Department's programmes.Resources for spending in the public sector next year will be very limited, and have been further stretched by the continuing over-spending by local authorities. As I announced on 24 July, we have had to increase local authority relevant current expenditure provision (adjusted for changes in the responsibilities of local authorities) by some £800 million. I have consulted local government on the various elements of the 1985–86 rate support grant settlement and will lay proposals before Parliament in December.There was a substantial overspend on local authority net capital provision in 1983–84, and there is again likely to be an overspend in 1984–85. The figures in the table take account of both.For housing we have made a small reduction of £65 million on the gross provision. Expenditure will be supported by a level of capital receipts £430 million higher than we assumed last year for 1985–86; this higher estimate has been made possible by the success and extension of our right-to-buy policies.I shall be announcing later, in the usual way, the apportionment of this total between the local authorities and the Housing Corporation; and individual local authorities will be receiving their detailed housing investment programme allocations. I am considering whether any change should be made in the prescribed proportion of capital receipts which authorities may use to augment their allocations, bearing in mind that local authorities were told in Cmnd. 9143 that they could plan their programmes on the assumption that their allocations for 1985–86 would be not less than 80 per cent. of those in 1984–85.Expenditure at these levels means that it is more important than ever to determine clear priorities for spending on housing and to seek the most cost effective solutions. It will be necessary for local authorities to concentrate more resources on the repair and renovation of their houses and flats and to make a start on dealing with the emerging problem of structural defects. Where authorities have blocks of flats or housing estates which need substantial renovation for which they do not have the resources in the near future, I will expect them to make strenuous efforts to find private sector partners who can take this on.For private sector property, it was never the Government's intention that expenditure on Home Improvement Grants should continue indefinitely at the levels of the last 2 or 3 years. It is primarily the responsibility of owners to keep their own dwellings in repair and where necessary to finance improvements by borrowing on the security of their properties. Accordingly, I would like to see home improvement grants focussed increasingly on those who can least afford to pay for repairs and improvements. I will shortly be issuing a consultation paper on proposals for legislation to secure this objective and I hope that so far as practicable local authorities will be guided by the general sense of these proposals in budgeting for improvement and repairs grants in the next financial year.The urban programme will be continued with total provision (including other Department's contributions) of over £300 million a year for 1985–86 and the following two years. Within this total, provision for partnership and programme authorities will, be continued at about the present cash level next year. The traditional urban programme will be concentrated in fewer areas, but existing revenue grants will be continued for their present term of up to five years. Provision for urban development grant will continue at a level that will enable schemes already approved to proceed and new schemes to be brought forward. In the two later years resources will increasingly be concentrated on the areas of greatest need.Provision for local authority local environmental services capital is unchanged from the White Paper. The reduction of £45 million is the net PES provision for New Town expenditure and reflects a corresponding increase in the forecast receipts from disposal of commercial and industrial assets. Gross New Town expenditure will be maintained at the previously planned level.I have made some additional resources available to the Nature Conservancy Council and the Countryside Commission to reflect costs involved in their obligations under the Wildlife and Countryside Act, and a small addition to maintain the Heritage provision.The external finance limit for water authorities in England and Wales for 1985–86 will be £203 million, including £14 million for land drainage grants administered by MAFF and £20 million allocated to the Welsh Water Authority. For the English water authorities, the Government intend that there should be a significant increase in the provision for water investment from this year's provision of £686 million, to £769 million in 1985–86. This will allow us to make faster progress on replacement, repair and maintenance of sewers arid water mains, and on improving the quality of rivers, estuaries and coastal waters. To finance this investment consistently with the reduced external finance limit, the Government have decided to set the financial targets for the water authorities to achieve an average rate of return of 1·4 per cent. in 1985–86 compared with this year's average rate of return of about 1·0 per cent. This is the first step in a policy to raise the average rate of return over three years to 1·7 per cent. and then to 1·9 per cent.As a result water charges will increase by rather more than the general rate of inflation. Discussions will now take place with individual authorities to give effect to these policies.An extra £15 million has been allocated to the Property Services Agency in 1985–86 for major new works and maintenance of the civil estate.

£ million Cash
1984–851985–86
Cmnd 9143 ProvisionNotional allocation of provision in Cmnd. 9143Revised provision
Total Local Authority Relevant Current Expenditure (covering all Departments' Services)20,389*20,82921,315
Housing (Local Authorities, Housing Corporation, New Towns):
Capital:
Gross Expenditure3,2443,1213,056
Receipts-1,600-1,300-1,730
Net Capital Expenditure1,6441,8211,326

1984–85

1985–86

Cmnd 9143 Provision

Notional allocation of provision in Cmnd. 9143

Revised provision

Current Expenditure†847779979
Programme total:
Net capital plus current2,4912,6002,305

DOE Other Environmental Services

Local Environmental Services Current Expenditure‡2,2602,3382,372
Local Environmental Services Capital Expenditure:
Gross Expenditure549547547
Receipts-360-360-360
Net Expenditure189187187
New Towns (Industrial and Commercial Sewerage)33-42
Urban and Derelict Land Block (including Urban Current)404427405
Royal Parks, Ancient Monuments, Heritage etc.929294
Central and Miscellaneous Services, Environmental Research117121126
Environmental Bodies, Development Commission8992100
English Water Authorities External Finance Limit264243183
Water Research, Other Water Services10109
British Waterways Board External Finance Limit434444

PSA:

Office and General Accommodation॥-86-100-85

* £20,493 million after adjustment for abolition of NIS and classification changes in respect of London Regional Transport and non advanced further education.

Subsidies, rate fund contributions, and local and central government housing administration.
‡ Including costs of rate collection and of the births, marriages and deaths registration services.
॥ Negative provision reflects the fact that Departments' repayments to PSA for office accommodation at market rental values exceeds PSA's actual costs of provision because of its holdings of property on Crown leasehold and at low historic rents.

Home Department

Glue Sniffing

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what steps he has taken on matters within his responsibility to combat the problem of glue sniffing.

We issued a circular to chief officers of police in June this year setting out the various options and facilities open to the police. We have also consulted representatives of manufacturers and retailers on proposals to create an offence of selling substances to under-16s, knowing or believing that they are likely to be inhaled to achieve intoxication. The responses indicated widespread support for such legislation. The Government are prepared to support the introduction of a suitable Bill in Parliament.

Cable Authority

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he proposes to establish the new Cable Authority.

In August I announced the appointment of Mr. Richard Burton as chairman of the Cable Authority. I have now appointed Professor James Ring to be deputy chairman and as members Mr. Paul Johnson, Mrs. Elizabeth MacDonald-Brown and Mr. Peter Paine. Further appointments will be announced in due course, but I propose now to make an order bringing into force the relevant provisions of the Cable and Broadcasting Act 1984 so that the authority, comprising the above members, can be formally constituted very shortly. It is intended that the authority will assume its full powers under the Act in a few weeks' time.

Charity Commission

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he has any changes to announce in the cash limit for the Charity Commission vote, class 13, vote 18.

Subject to parliamentary approval of the necessary supplementary estimate, the cash limit on the Charity Commission vote will be raised by £74,000 from £4,762,000 to £4,836,000. The increase provides principally for costs associated with the computer installation in the official custodians division.The additional expenditure will be charged to the Reserve and has been taken into account in the estimated outturn of the public expenditure planning total for 1984–85 given in the autumn statement today.

Coal Industry (Dispute)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will provide details as to the occupations of all persons arrested in the past 12 weeks on picket line duty at National Coal Board pits.

During the 12 weeks from 14 August to 16 November 2,079 people were arrested in connection with the miners' dispute. The occupations of those arrested which became known to the police over the same period are as follows:

OccupationNo.
Miners1,951
Retired Miners3
Member of Parliament1
Transport workers9
Students15
Medical workers2
Non-manual workers12
Manual workers88
Servicemen11
Housewives12
Unemployed69
Total2,173
The figures do not exactly tally because during this period the police became aware of the occupations of some of those arrested earlier, and it is not possible to separate the information about these arrests from that given above.

Shop Hours

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) when he expects to publish the report of the committee of inquiry into shop hours;(2) whether he has received the report of the committee of inquiry into shop hours.

My right hon. and learned Friend has now received the report and intends to publish it as soon as possible.

Shop Act 1950

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many letters he has received from hon. Members supporting the reform of the Shops Act 1950

Since the defeat on 4 February 1983 of the Bill introduced by my hon. Friend the Member for Wycombe (Mr. Whitney), which would have repealed these restrictions, nine Members of Parliament have written to my right hon. and learned Friend supporting the reform of the Shops Act 1950.

Mr Edward Hopson

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make a statement on the circumstances in which Edward Hopson was released from Broadmoor; what advance warning was given to the police in Ealing; and what steps were taken to reduce the scope for him committing offences against children of the type for which he had originally been committed to Broadmoor.

Mr. Hopson was conditionally discharged from Broadmoor hospital with the consent of the Home Secretary, under section 66(2) of the Mental Health Act 1959, in April 1982. Consent was given in the light of a recommendation for discharge from the responsible medical officer at Broadmoor and of reports from him and other staff there.On discharge Mr. Hopson went to live in a hostel in Kensington. The Metropolitan police were notified so that they would be aware of his residence in their area. In March 1983 he moved to a council flat in Hanwell. The police would normally be informed of such a move; it is not clear from Home Office records that they were informed on this occasion, and we are checking on this.Before being conditionally discharged, arrangements were made for Mr. Hopson to be supervised by a consultant psychiatrist from Broadmoor and by a probation officer, and for both of them to send regular reports to the Home Office, so that Mr. Hopson's progress in the community could be kept under review.

Mr Mohammed Siddique

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department why Mr. Mohammed Siddique, who is on remand at Winston Green prison, has not been allowed to grow a beard and was forcibly shaved during the week ended 2 November.

Mr. Siddique has not been forcibly shaved. He has been advised that if he wishes to grow a beard he must apply to the governor to be allowed to do so; he has not done so.

Remand Prisoners

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what steps he takes to ensure the reasonable health and comfort of those detained in custody between arrest and trial.

Responsibility for the treatment of persons in police custody rests with the relevant chief officer of police. Home Office guidance to chief officers on the treatment of persons in police custody is contained in section 4 of the "Consolidated Circular to the Police on Crime and Kindred Matters", a copy of which is in the Library of the House.The prison service has the duty of caring for the physical and mental health and welfare of every inmate in its custody, whether convicted or unconvicted. In any establishment this duty is shared between the medical officer and the governor and the governor is required to bring to my right hon. and learned Friend's attention any matter of concern which needs his consideration.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what proposals he intends to make with regard to time limits on the period between arrest and trial.

We intend to seek powers in the Prosecution of Offences Bill to apply time limits to the period between an offender's first appearance in court following arrest or summons and his trial. My right hon. and learned Friend will determine the precise way in which these powers should be exercised after considering the results of field trials, which will explore the feasibility of particular time limits and their practical implications.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many complaints his Department has received in the last six months concerning lengthy remands in custody.

The information requested is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost. If the hon. Member has particular cases in mind and would write to me, I should be glad to look into the matter.

Passports (Northern Ireland)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many United Kingdom passports are currently held by United Kingdom citizens residing in Northern Ireland.

Overseas Development

Northern Africa

74.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what further aid proposals he intends to take in northern Africa.

Following my initiative the European Community Development Council decided on 31 October to allot £35 million to help fight African drought. £14 million of this is for food aid. This will be available for the Sahel countries in northern Africa, in addition to direct aid from Britain and elsewhere.

Africa (Drought Assistance)

76.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what initiatives Her Majesty's Government are currently taking to assist drought affected Africa.

We have food aid on its way shortly to Ethiopia and Mozambique. We have now committed to Ethiopia most of the £5 million I announced recently for drought-stricken countries. We have taken the initiative in getting the Council of Ministers to endorse last week a new allocation by the European Community for the same purpose worth £35 million, of which over £20 million will be food aid. We have encouraged the world food programme and the wider UN system to reinforce their efforts to deal with the Ethiopian drought.

Developing Countries

79.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what recent discussions he has had with his European Economic Community counterparts on increasing assistance to developing countries; and if he will make a statement.

At the Development Council on 6 November, I discussed the various initiatives taken by the Community to aid developing countries. In particular Development Ministers endorsed an addition of 32 million ecu (£19 million) to the 1984 Community aid budget for emergency assistance to those suffering famine in Africa. On 11 October the Community offered 7 billion ecu (£4,140 million) for the 6th European development fund, an increase of over 50 per cent. on EDF V.

Lomé Convention

80.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs when he expects negotiations for a successor to the Lomé convention to be concluded.

I expect negotiations to be concluded in time for the new convention to be signed in Lomé in early December.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on the United Kingdom's role in negotiations on the renewal of the Lomé convention.

Her Majesty's Government have pressed our partners in the European Community to accept further liberalisation of the trade arrangements in the Lomé convention; and urged the Commission to find ways to improve the quality of aid from the European development fund. Progress on both issues has been made.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement outlining the present state of negotiations on the third Lomé convention; and what assessment he makes of the prospects for the successful negotiation of a new convention.

The last set of negotiations between European Community and African, Caribbean and Pacific Ministers took place in Brussels from 9 to 13 October when agreement was reached on all but a limited number of points. I expect the negotiations to be concluded soon so that the new convention can be signed in Lomé in early December.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs why Her Majesty's Government are proposing that the additional money to be provided by the entry to the European Economic Community of Spain and Portugal to the Lomé convention should be used to tackle the problem of the burden-sharing key for European Community member states.

Her Majesty's Government did not put forward this proposal. The Council agreed to it in order to meet the concerns of some member states that their contribution keys to the European development fund were above their shares of Community VAT.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what consideration the Government are giving to the African, Caribbean and Pacific proposals for the third Lomé convention.

The Government and the Community have paid careful attention to African, Caribbean and Pacific state proposals, many of which have been accepted in the lengthy process of negotiating the new convention.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if Her Majesty's Government will make it their policy to insist that African, Caribbean and Pacific countries accept tighter control on the Stabex funds in the context of the negotiations for the third Lomé convention and that new concessions by the Community are conditional on further concessions from the African, Caribbean and Pacific states.

The arrangements for controlling Stabex transfers have now been agreed ad referendum between the Community and the African, Caribbean and Pacific states. I believe these new arrangements will lead to tighter control over the use of Stabex funds.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what has been the nature and purpose of the Government's efforts in the context of a new Lomé convention to seek to ensure that African, Caribbean and Pacific countries recognise and encourage private economic operators.

The Government believe that private economic operators have an important role to play in the development of the economies of African, Caribbean and Pacific states. To that end we have been working for provisions to encourage European private investment, in particular to facilitate the negotiation of effective bilateral investment promotion and protection agreements.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what efforts the Government are making with regard to the incorporation of human rights issues into the third Lomé convention.

The Government have been seeking a reference to human rights in the next convention. The Community has proposed mention of standard international texts such as the Universal Declaration on Human Rights. The African, Caribbean and Pacific states have not yet formally responded.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if Her Majesty's Government are seeking references to policy dialogue in the context of the negotiations regarding the proposed third Lomé convention.

The Government have strongly supported the Community's proposal for the concept of policy dialogue to be incorporated in the third Lomé convention.

I believe that the text which has now been agreed ad referendum with the African, Caribbean and Pacific states is satisfactory.

Sri Lanka

81.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether, in the light of the success of the Victoria dam project in Sri Lanka, he will ensure that the aid programme continues to include a number of large-scale projects.

I am glad my hon. Friend has noted the success of the Victoria dam project. The aid programme will continue to finance sound development projects of whatever size within the resources available to it.

Ethiopia

82.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he is satisfied with the level of transport support he has been able to provide for the assistance of famine relief in Ethiopia.

Figures for aid given directly to the Ethiopian Government
£'000
197819791980198119821983
Food Aid1,1871,9211,091225,1942,510
Other financial aid*1,1061,063149248508
Technical Cooperation4736794291425819
Total2,7662,7631,6691665,3003,037
* Comprises disaster relief and development loans and grants.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he intends to allocate grain from United Kingdom sources to meet Ethiopia's food requirements for 1985.

We will certainly contribute from the 1985 bilateral food aid programme: and I expect the 1985 European Community food aid programme, which is much larger, to make a major contribution also.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what representations he has made to the Ethiopian authorities about their threat to move the Royal Air Force famine relief operation out of Addis Ababa.

No formal request from the Ethiopian authorities for such a move has been received.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what representations he has made at the United Nations to ensure that the Government of Ethiopia do not hinder the airlift of food and medical aid to that country.

None. But my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister has been in touch with Mr. Perez de Cuellar on the need for overall co-ordination of the relief effort, and the Secretary-General has now appointed Dr. Jansson for this purpose.

Yes, so fat, but I expect further needs for spares and perhaps more vehicles to emerge, as well as for British equipment to enhance the handling capacity of the docks.

87.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement about the provision of emergency aid to Ethiopia.

89.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on overseas aid to Ethiopia.

I refer my hon. Friends to the comments I made in the debate on Foreign Affairs on 9 November and to my earlier replies today.

88.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will state the amount of overseas aid given to Ethiopia for each of the last six years; and if he will specify the form of such aid.

Falkland Islands

83.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he is satisfied with the arrangements he has made with the Government of the Falkland Islands concerning purchase of land by Falkland Islanders.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what inquiries were made into damage in the road between the airport and Port Stanley in the Falklands; what was the result of those inquiries; what disciplinary action was taken against those involved; what action is now proposed to repair the damage; and if he will make a statement.

The state of the Port Stanley airport road has been regularly monitored by engineering advisers, and there has also been investigations by the Royal Engineers and the Property Services Agency. This has shown that the Falklands climate and the nature of the usage of the road have led to unusually rapid deterioration, but I am advised that it is unlikely that contractual liability for the damge could be shown. Immediate repair work is being undertaken by the Royal Engineers.

Caribbean (Ministerial Visit)

84.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement about the recent visit to the Caribbean by the Minister for Overseas Development.

I visited Barbados, Grenada, Jamaica and Belize between 14 and 24 October 1984, to see something of Britain's aid programme in operation; to discuss development matters with local Ministers and officials; and to review our programmes with the British high commissions and ODA's development division in Barbados. While in Jamaica I signed a loan agreement for £2·5 million, to be spent on British machinery and equipment.

India

85.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he will increase aid from the United Kingdom to India.

We have no plans to do so but will maintain our aid to India at a substantial level.

North African States

86.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what are the priorities which determine the Government's aid to north African states.

In deciding its allocation of aid the Government gives priority to developmental criteria. They also take account of any relevant commercial and political factors. Aid levels to north African states have been set with these points in mind.

Aid Programme

91.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what changes are proposed in the aid programme in the financial years 1984–85 and 1985–86.

For 1984–85 no changes in the aid programme are proposed. I shall shortly be making a statement regarding the position for 1985–86 following the announcement of the Government's expenditure plans.

United Nations Educational, Scientific And Cultural Organisation

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will support the United States and other countries by withdrawing the United Kingdom contribution to the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation if that organisation is not satisfactorily reformed and reconstituted.

I am currently reviewing our policy towards UNESCO. Over the last year Her Majesty's Government have sought reforms but not the reconstitution of UNESCO.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what consultations he proposed before reaching a decision on the future of United Kingdom membership of UNESCO; and if he will make a statement.

I will take into consideration the views of hon. Members and of those Organisations and individuals who have written to me. It was agreed at the United Kingdom national commission for UNESCO on 5 November that it would make a further assessment of the desirability of Britain's continued membership in the light of the outcome of the next general conference in October 1985. I shall remain in close touch with those countries who share our concerns about the organisation.

Overseas Aid

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what percentage of gross national product is committed by the Government to overseas aid.

In 1983, 0·35 per cent. of gross national product was provided for official development assistance. This figure is very close to the average (0·36) for all countries comprising the development assistance committee (DAC) of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD).

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on the trend in real terms of expenditure on overseas aid in each of the next three years.

I shall shortly be making a statement on plans for the aid programme in 1985–86. For levels of aid in the two subsequent financial years the hon. Member must await the publication of the White Paper on public expenditure in February 1985.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he is satisfied with the present level of assistance given by Her Majesty's Government in overseas aid; and if he will make a statement.

The Government have a substantial overseas aid programme, and will continue to maintain one in the future.

Overseas Development Administration (Budget)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what impact will be made upon the budget of the Overseas Development Administration by any grant of funds or food aid by the European Community to Ethiopia.

Britain's share of overseas aid expenditure financed from the European Community budget is attributed to the public expenditure allocation for financing the United Kingdom aid programme. The United Kingdom share of the European Community's additional food and other emergency aid for Ethiopia, which has recently been approved, is some £2 million. The rate at which this EC allocation will be spent is uncertain so it is not yet known how much of it will count against the United Kingdom aid budget this financial year.

Colonial Service (Pensions)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will estimate the cost of giving credit for years of war service to post-war entrants of the Colonial Service in computing their pensions.

A broad estimate is that the enhanced entitlements would cost about £3 million a year in 1983 values, assuming no retrospection. The once-for-all administration costs of implementing the concession would amount to some £200,000.

Bangladesh

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if the Government have any plans to increase food aid to Bangladesh.

Disaster Unit

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how many trucks, Land Rovers and other vehicles were owned by the Overseas Development Administration for the use of its disaster unit on 3 May 1979.

European Development Fund

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs why Her Majesty's Government have supported the proposal that seven billion European currency units should be the total financial package for the sixth European development fund; and why it has opposed the French proposal of 7·5 billion European currency units.

The Government believe that the agreed Community offer of 7 billion ecu is fair and generous.

Sudan

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he has received any request for aid from the Government of Sudan due to the current drought; and if he will make a statement.

The Sudan Government have appealed generally for drought relief aid. The Sudanese ambassador in London has asked specifically for help for refugees arriving in the country.We are now shipping 11,750 tonnes of wheat flour which will be sold by the UN High Commission for Refugees to provide funds for its refugee programme there. We have also asked the high commissioner for a full report to allow us to consider the Sudan Government's latest request.Much is being done by the voluntary agencies. I expect to approve within the next few days the allocation of £1 million over four years for a refugee agricultural development scheme in the eastern Sudan. We have just agreed to provide £100,000 to the Catholic Fund for Overseas Development for food transport and emergency feeding to support a Save the Children Fund nutrition team to help coordinate the feeding of new refugees and existing refugee camps; and to contribute to the cost of a logistics team from the same agency to help transport and distribute food in Kordofan and Darfur provinces. We shall continue to monitor the possible need for further help.

United Nations Environmental Programme

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what participation his Department will have, in the coming year, in the United Nations environment programme.

Co-ordination of British participation in the work of the United Nations environment programme is the responsibility of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment. The Foreign and Commonwealth Office would expect to be represented on the British delegation to the governing council meeting in May and to participate in other UNEP activities throughout the year. In addition, through the aid programme, we support a wide range of projects and programmes designed to support the work of UNEP.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what is the Department's current involvement with the United Nations environment programme human settlements (habitat) project.

The United Kingdom is not a member of the United Nations centre for human settlements (habitat).The majority of the projects initiated by that organisation are funded by the United Nations development programme to which we make a considerable contribution. We are in touch with the United Nations centre for human settlements on the British contribution to the international year of shelter for the homeless, 1987.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if, when meeting his European Economic Community colleagues, he will encourage them now to lend, together with the United Kingdom, their full support to the desertification consultative group of the United Nations environment programme.

At the meeting of the Governing Council of the United Nations environment programme in May the United Kingdom, in close consultation with our Community partners, was instrumental in promoting a decision on desertification which, among other things, sought to strengthen the role of the consultative group on desertification control. The issue is now under discussion in the United Nations General Assembly.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what progress has been made with the United Nations environment programme desertification project following the Sahelian conferences; and if he will make a statement.

Following the United Nations conference on desertification in 1977, a plan of action to combat desertification was established. Progress in implementing the plan was reviewed by the governing council of the United Nations environment programme in Nairobi in May this year. It was agreed that the plan needed more focus on the most affected countries and that priority should be given to areas offering the best chances for substantial rehabilitation. The governing council called upon affected countries to establish national programmes to combat desertification and urged donors to increase their avid to such countries. The subsequent meeting in Dakar in July, called by the President of Senegal, reaffirmed this. The matter is now under discussion in the Second Committee of the United Nations General Assembly.

Food Aid

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will publish a table of third world countries that have received food aid from the United Kingdom from 1980 to 1984 and the amount received by each.

The information requested is given in the following table. Statistics to the development assistance

Distribution of food aid United Kingdom national actions$
19801981198219831984
Shipments to end of Oct. 1984Other commitments 1984
RecipientCereals/wheat equivalent metric tonnes (thousands)Value $ thousands (including transport)Cereals/wheat equivalent metric tonnes (thousands)Value $ thousands (including transport)Cereals/wheat equivalent metric tonnes (thousands)Value $ thousands (including transport)Cereals/wheat equivalent metric tonnes (thousands)Value $ thousands (including transport)Cereals/wheat equivalent metric tonnes (thousands)Cereals/wheat equivalent metric tonnes (thousands)Value $ thousands (including transport)
Multilateral
UNHCR8·584217·003,15522·813·5
UNRWA8·51,298
Bilateral
Afghan refugees (Pakistan)10·356,7758·501,9488·50
Algeria1·0240
Bangladesh28·007,5998·01,766
Cape Verde5·01,686
Cambodia3·50623
Cambodian refugees2·27472
Congo0·12280·0718
Egypt0·143017·224,810
Ethiopia10·003,1895·06·5
Gambia2·00226
Jordan14·43,61211·923,283
Kenya5·01,4955·0789
Lebanon0·78217
Mali0·501262·502892·54202·5
Mauritania2·546813·0774
Morocco11·003,012
Mozambique15·04,56412·003,2853·050911·511·0
Senegal1·50155
Somalia12·843,35411·003,387
Sudan8·491,874
Syria2·57606
Tanzania5·01,161
Yemen PDRY6·501,5722·92838
Ghana23·5
Zambia13·004,6897·001,813
Zimbabwe10·0
Balance3·2
Through WFP
(a) regular programme
Chad8·8
Ethiopia37·08,22019·004,72915·0
Egypt2·7458213·502,9652·53
Morocco9·231,960
Lebanon2·46556
Malawi0·1628
Tunisia5·007128·502,03310·006·9
Syria9·002,0765·4814·30
Bangladesh30·74
Madagascar0·685
Equatorial Guinea0·410
Guinea0·155
Pakistan5·0
Balance
(b) international emergency food reserve
Mali0·37107
Mauritania4·501,324
Zambia3·5
Uganda1·495
Balance5·0
Total78·0022,964112·5231,170103·4424,216107·6324,152115·30112·70*27,300
(£9·87m)(£15·37m)(£13·83m)(£l5·92m)(£21m)
* Estimate.

Acid Rain

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what measures are being taken by his Department to encourage the development of research projects based upon arid-resistant plant species; what measures are being taken to promote planting nurseries for such species; and if he will make a statement.

committee of the OECD are reported in US$ and presentation in this form provides a consistent picture of value.

Social Services

National Insurance (Review)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he has yet completed his review of national insurance contributions for 1985–86

I have completed the annual review of national insurance contributions under section 120 of the Social Security Act 1975 and I have today laid two draft orders which require the approval of both Houses: the Social Security (Contributions, Re-rating) (No. 2) Order 1984 providing for contribution rates and profits limits to take effect from 6 April 1985, and the Social Security (Treasury Supplement to Contributions) (No. 2) Order, which provides for a reduction in the Treasury Supplement from 11 per cent. to 9 per cent. I have also laid the Social Security (Contributions) Amendment (No. 2) Regulations 1984, which set out new earnings limits for employees' and employers' contributions. A report by the Government Actuary (Cmnd. 9386) which accompanies the orders and regulations explains their effect on the National Insurance Fund.

Employees and Employers

As my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer said in his statement today I do not propose to raise the rate of contribution for either employees or employers. However, in line with the requirements of the Social Security Pensions Act 1975, the lower earnings limit for Class 1 contributions is to be increased to £35·50 a week, just below the new basic retirement pension rate, and the upper earnings limit is to be raised to £265 a week, which is about 7·4 times the new basic pension rate. These new earnings limits replace the existing ones of £34 and £250 a week respectively. The effects of these changes are as follows.

Not Contracted-out Employees

Neither the employee nor his employer will have to pay a contribution if his earnings are less than £35.50 a week. For people earning between £35·50 and £250 (the old upper limit) there will be no increase for either the employee or the employer. For those with earnings between £250 and £265 (the new upper limit) the maximum increase will be £1·35 a week for the employee and £1·57 for the employer.

Contracted-out Employees

Contributions payable by contracted-out employees and their employers will rise slightly. Where earnings are less than £250 the increase will be very small, reflecting the fact that the increase in the lower earnings limit reduces the band of earnings on which the lower contracted-out rate is paid; the increase on earnings between £35·50 and £250 will generally be 3p for the employee and 6p for the employer. Additional contributions will be payable on earnings between £250 and £265 (the new upper limit); the maximum increase will be £1·05 for the employee and £1·01 for the employer.

The self-employed

The flat-rate class 2 contribution will be raised to £4·75. Strict application of the formula for calculating self-employed contributions which has operated since 1977 would have meant a class 2 rate of £5·05 but I have thought it right to continue — and indeed increase — the modest relief to the small businessman while remaining within the broad framework of the formula. The rate of the class 4 contribution is not being increased and the annual limits of profits between which class 4 contributions are paid are being raised from £3,950 and £13,000 to £4,150 and £13,780 respectively.
The effect of these changes is that for self-employed people who only pay class 2 contributions there will be an annual increase of £7.80 but for those with profits between £4,150 and £13,000 there will be a reduction of £4·80 a year, assuming the same level of profits as in 1984–85. For those with profits of or above £13,780, the new upper profits limit, the increase will be £44·34 a year.

Class 3 (Voluntary) Contributions

The rate of class 3 contributions is to be raised from £4·50 to £4·65

Rate of Treasury Supplement

The Treasury supplement to the national insurance fund is being reduced from 11 per cent. to 9 per cent. In recent years the consolidated fund has been meeting an increasing share of social security expenditure.

Trade And Industry

Synthetic Resins Ltd, Liverpool

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he has had any consultations with Scott Bader about the proposed closure of Synthetic Resins Ltd in Liverpool

No, but officials from the Merseyside office of my Department have discussed the matter with the local management.

Alvey Programme

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he is satisfied that the United States Government will not seek to enforce their Export Administration Act over products and expertise arising from projects under the Alvey programme in which United States controlled companies have participated or may participate.

Contracts and grants under the Alvey programme are for research carried out in the United Kingdom. As a matter of United Kingdom law, United States export controls have no force in the United Kingdom and Her Majesty's Government will continue to resist attempts by the United States Administration to apply their controls within the United Kingdom.

Fireworks

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what consideration the Government are giving to a review of fireworks controls; and if he will make a statement.

It is the Government's intention to revise the legislation so that magistrates can impose heavier penalties for selling fireworks to young people under 16 and for letting them off in a public place. As things stand I am not convinced of the need for further controls but I will keep the situation under review.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if Her Majesty's Government have any plans to prohibit the sale of fireworks to the general public.

Family firework parties are a traditional British institution enjoyed by millions, and as things stand I am not prepared to deny people this pleasure because of abuse or carelessness by a few.. However I will keep this situation under review.

European Community (Research Council)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what progress was made at the meeting of the Research Council of European Community Ministers on 6 November; and if he will make a statement.

The Community's Council of Ministers (Research) met on 6 November 1984 in Brussels; I represented Her Majesty's Government. The Council held a constructive exchange of views on the approach it would adopt to the various proposals for research programmes currently under discussion, given the present budgetary and financial constraints in the Community. The specific research proposals were not discussed individually, but the Council will return to them, following detailed work by the Presidency and the Commission, at its next meeting in December.

Toys (Safety)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will consider including crossbows, powerful catapults and other potentially dangerous toys in the review of regulations on framing new safety guidelines; and if he will make a statement.

Certainly. That part of British Standard BS 5665, Safety of Toys, which sets requirements for toy guns also covers other projectile toys such as crossbows, pea-shooters and darts. There is a possible grey area between projectile toys and sporting equipment. My officials, in conjunction with other Departments as necessary, are reviewing all aspects of current legal requirements and published standards for these products and will seek improvements where appropriate.

Chatsworth Collection (Export Licences)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will state (a) the total number of export licences actually issued in respect of 61 drawings sold at auction on 3 July from the Chatsworth collection, together with the total value applicable to them and (b) the total number of items for which export licences have been temporarily withheld, together with the total value applicable to them.

Licences have been temporarily withheld, on the advice of the reviewing committee on the export of works of art, for 13 items having a total value of £13,360,480. Licences for the remaining items have been issued in normal course. The value of these items is a matter of commercial confidentiality.

Nationalised Industries (Consumer Councils)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he plans to introduce reforms to the constitution of nationalised industries consumer councils.

In 1982 my Department published a paper entitled "The Nationalised Industry Consumer Councils: A Strategy for Reform", outlining the Government's intentions for improvements in the structure and organisation of such councils. A number of the proposals in that document have already been implemented and action on others is in hand.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will take steps to require the nationalised industries to engage in consultation with the consumer councils covering their industries, as the councils demand.

The nationalised industries do already consult their respective consumer councils on a range of issues. The consumer councils will be reviewing their consultative arrangements with their industries in agreeing the operating guidelines foreshadowed in paragraphs 19–20 of the "Strategy for Reform" paper.

Radio Investigation Service

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he intends to increase the staff of the radio investigation service.

Spain (Motor Vehicles)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will make a statement about new Government initiatives to introduce fair competition and an equalisation of tariffs in motor vehicle exports to, and imports from, Spain.

The key to fair competition in trade in motor vehicles with Spain lies in her negotiations for entry into the European Community. The Community has now made its position clear. Under pressure from Her Majesty's Government it calls for special provision for tariffs on cars to secure a substantial improvement for entry into the Spanish market as from accession.

Price Waterhouse And Deloitte Haskins And Sells (Merger)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will refer the proposed merger between Price Waterhouse and Deloitte Haskins and Sells to the Office of Fair Trading under the Restrictive Practices and Monopolies and Mergers Acts.

This proposed merger is under consideration by the Office of Fair Trading. In accordance with the provisions of the Fair Trading Act 1973, my right hon. Friend will decide in the light of advice from the Director General of Fair Trading whether to refer it to the Monopolies and Mergers Commission.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what representations he has had from the senior partner of Price Waterhouse about its proposed merger with Deloitte Haskins and Sells.

Representations made to the Secretary of State regarding mergers are confidential.

Cash Limits

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what changes have been made in the cash limit which is to be applied in the current financial year to the provision under class IV, vote 6, Scientific and Technological Assistance (Department of Trade and Industry).

The outturn on this Vote for 1983–84 showed expenditure of £211,000 in excess of that year's cash limit. The overspend arose as a result of shortcomings in the day-to-day operation of financial control systems, which are now being improved. In accordance with normal practice, the cash limit on this Vote for this financial year will now be reduced by the amount of the previous year's overspend. The new cash limit will therefore be reduced by £211,000 from £378,178,000 to £377,967,000.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he has any changes to announce in the cash limit for class IV, vote 2, covering miscellaneous support services.

I propose to reduce the cash limit for class IV, vote 2 by £1,467,000 from £87,195,000 to £85,728,000. The reduction will be used to offset in part the overspend on regional and selective assistance on class IV vote 1.

Strategic Minerals (Stockpile)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether it is the Government's intention to continue maintaining a stockpile of strategic minerals.

The Government have decided that it is no longer necessary to hold a mineral stockpile and will be disposing of it over the next few years.

Research And Development

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether he is satisfied that enough is being done to encourage more private sector resources to be devoted to research and development.

The Government place considerable emphasis on the need to encourage industrial research and development and has taken practical steps to support it. The number of research and development projects approved for assistance under the Science and Technology Act increased from 356 in 1979–80 to 1612 in 1983–84. The funds allocated for general industrial research and development support grew from £60 million to £200 million over the same period.Our measures have had a significant and widespread impact. Industry now better appreciates the importance of research and development for its future viability. This together with the improvement over the last three years in profitability and liquidity in industry and commerce has resulted in increased demand for Government support for research and development. In consequence the 1985–86 allocation for innovation grants is now virtually committed.In view of this I have decided to review the balance of the Department's support for industrial research and development. Whilst this is being undertaken and with immediate effect no further application will be accepted for:

research and development projects from individual firms on standard support for innovation terms
development and investment projects under the microelectronics industry support scheme and the fibre-optics and opto-electronics scheme and
application, development and installation projects for flexible manufacturing systems and robots.

Formal applications that have already been received by the Department will be processed within the limited funds still available.

The review will be completed within five months. I will announce the conclusions at that time. That will also be the occasion for introducing the new arrangements for regrouping all the Department's assistance schemes announced by my right hon. Friend on 27 July.

Minerals (Green Book)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry when the Green Book on minerals is expected to be published.

I have been asked to reply.Consultation on all chapters of the draft new edition of the Green Book (including the policy chapter) has now been completed. Its publication remains dependent on the making of regulations for the abatement of compensation under the Town and Country Planning (Minerals) Act 1981 and the introduction of minerals amendments to the General Development Order 1977. I hope that both these items of legislation can be successfully concluded within the current parliamentary Session. The new edition of the Green Book will be published as soon as possible thereafter.

National Finance

Cable Infrastructure (Capital Allowances)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will amend chapter II of the Finance Act 1984 to provide further capital allowances for the establishment of a cable infrastructure in the United Kingdom.

The capital allowance system has been reformed, amongst other reasons, to reduce discrimination between different assets and different sectors of the economy. My hon. Friend's proposal would not be consistent with that objective.

Alcoholic Drinks (Taxes And Duties)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the amount of revenue raised from taxes and duties on alcoholic drinks in the fiscal year 1983–84.

Net receipts of excise duty on alcoholic drinks in 1983–84 were £4,075 million. It is estimated that VAT on alcoholic drinks yielded about £1,750 million.

Tax Revenue

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish in the Official Report(a) the revenue received in 1983–84, and (b) the latest estimates of revenue to be received in 1984–85 from the following taxes (i) fuel duty on petrol and derv sales, (ii) vehicle excise duty. (iii) car tax, (iv) value added tax on petrol and derv sales. and (v) value added tax on sales of vehicles.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply given on 11 July to my hon. Friend the Member for Warwick and Leamington (Sir D. Smith).

Value Added Tax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will estimate the revenue in a full year from the imposition of value added tax at the standard rate on each of (a) children's clothing, (b) children's shoes, (c) fuel, (d) all food currently zero-rated, (e) books and (f) newspapers and periodicals.

It is estimated that the net additional full year revenue, at 1984–85 prices, would be about:

£ million
(a)Children's clothing200
(b)Children's footwear50
(c)Fuel1,350
(d)Food3,500
(e)Books85
(f)Newspapers and periodicals290

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will estimate the effect in a full year (a) on the increase of the retail price index and (b) on consequent increase in payment of benefits of the imposition of value added tax at the standard rate on: (i) books and (ii) newspapers and periodicals.

The impact effect on the RPI is estimated to be less than 0·1 per cent. for books, and about 0·2 per cent. for newspapers and periodicals.Each 1 per cent. increase in social security benefit rates is estimated to cost about £350 million in a full year.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what representation he has received about value added tax on books; and what support he expects for such a proposal.

I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave on 22 October 1984 to the hon. Member for Denton and Reddish (Mr. Bennett) at column 464. I cannot usefully comment on the degree of public support such a proposal might or might not receive, but the many representations on this subject have been carefully noted.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will publish in the Official Report the amount of value added tax paid since 1 May to the latest convenient date in respect of hot food and drink purchased from take-aways.

[pursuant to his reply, 9 November 1984, c. 18]: Value added tax paid in respect of hot take-away food and drink is not separately identified in Customs and Excise accounts. Estimates of the amounts paid have to be based on consumer expenditure data, and information on expenditure after the Budget change will not be available for some time. I have no reason to depart from the estimates given in footnote (aa) to table 4.2 of this year's Financial Statement and Budget Report.

Inflation

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the current rate of inflation; and if he will make a statement on his policies to reduce it.

The retail price index rose 4·7 per cent. in the 12 months to September. The Government intend to maintain the financial discipline necessary to reduce inflation further.

European Community (Own Resources Payments)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will make a statement about an advance of own resources payments to the European Communities in October.

The Commission has, in accordance with article 10(2) of Council Regulation 2891/77, invited member states to advance from 20 December to 20 November payments of own resources other than VAT in respect of agricultural, sugar and isoglucose levies and customs duties collected by the Government on their behalf in October. The Government are complying with this request. This advance follows the previous one from 20 November to 22 October which was announced to the House on 22 October (WA 467–468).The advance will reduce the Commission's cash flow difficulties and enable the Commission to pay from the budget to recipients in the United Kingdom and other member states.

Pending parliamentary approval of a Winter Supplementary Estimate, payment of £130 million will be made by a repayable advance from the contingencies fund. The payment of levies and duties on 20 December 1984 which is made directly from the consolidated fund under section 2(3) of the European Communities Act 1972 will be reduced by the amount of the advance. There will therefore be no net addition to public expenditure.

Any further requests for advances will be considered in the light of the then prevailing circumstances.

Fontainebleau Agreement

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will set out the detailed conditions necessary to satisfy the financial mechanisms required by the Government arising from the Fontainebleau agreement.

Pension Funds (Withdrawals)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if it is intended to make lump sum withdrawals from pension funds subject to tax at retirement; and if he will make a statement.

I am aware of the recent speculation on this subject. Our normal policy is not to comment on such speculation.

"Official Report"

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will make a statement as to the reasons for the delay in publication of the bound copies of the Official Report, sixth series.

I understand that a change in the system for compiling indexes led to a serious delay in the delivery of copy to Her Majesty's Stationery Office. However, volume 52 is due to be published on 7 December. Officials of the House and HMSO are urgently considering how best to improve the position.

Funding

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the extent of overfunding or underfunding for each quarter since the beginning of 1982; what have been the total sales of commercial bills for each quarter over the same period; and what has been the sterling index, the level of industrial production and the level of real wages for each quarter over the same period.

National Health Service

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will announce revised cash limits for the National Health Service for 1984–85 to take account of the pay awards to staff who are not covered by the pay review bodies.

Yes. As announced on 17 October by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services cash limits for the NHS will be increased to take account of part of the increased cost arising from these pay awards. Part of the additional cost will be found from efficiency savings within the service. The balance will be charged to the Reserve and has been taken into account in the estimated outturn of the public expenditure planning

DepartmentVote/cash blockCurrent cash limitIncrease for payOther changesRevised cash limit
'000s'000s'000s'000s
Department of Health and Social SecurityXI. 18,962,60729,3708,991,977
Scottish OfficeXV. 141,448,7193,8501,452,569
Welsh OfficeXVI. 1752,1441,943*—2,025752,062
£ million£ million£ million£ million
Northern Ireland DepartmentsNID 1†2,059·5†l·3†‡1·7†2,062·5
* This reduction results from savings found on the roads and transport programme and offsets overspend on selective financial assistance on class XVI vote 3.
† Figures for Northern Ireland are rounded to the nearest £0·1 million.
‡ Details of the expenditure made available for the Milk supplementary levy (outgoers) scheme are given by the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food in a written answer of today's date.

Civil Service

Video Display Units

asked the Minister for the Civil Service whether he will now publish the results of the Civil Service Medical Advisory Service's research into the dangers of video display units to pregnant women operators.

The Civil Service Medical Advisory Service will be presenting the report of a survey of visual display unit operators in Runcorn to the international meeting on allegations of reproductive hazards from visual display units organised by Humane Technology, an independent specialist consultancy, in London on 29–30 November 1984.The report and ensuing discussion will be published after the meeting.

Energy

Electricity Costs

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what is the extra cost per unit of producing electricity by burning oil in the power stations compared with the cost in those stations which are using coal.

The additional cost of generating electricity from oil-fired power stations as a result of the coal dispute varies according to the overall level of demand on the system at a given time and other factors. The extra costs cannot be fully assessed until the dispute is over.

Coal Prices

asked the Secretary of State for Energy whether he will publish in the Official Report a table showing for Germany, France, Belgium and Holland such information as he has as to the latest available figures showing the price of coal, the amount of subsidy per tonne, and the estimated cost of producing each tonne: and if he will compare this with the United Kingdom coal industry.

No recent comparative information is available. It has been announced that France intends to

total for 1984–85 given in the autumn statement on 12 November 1984. The changes, which, for the voted cash limits, are subject to parliamentary approval of the necessary supplementary estimates, are as follows:

halve its coal industry over the next five years and to reduce employment in its coal industry by the same proportion.

The last set of comparative figures which are available relate to 1982. At that time the investment finance available to the coal industry in the United Kingdom was £736 million, compared with £231 million in the Federal Republic of Germany, £47 million in France and £19 million in Belgium.

Doubtless due to this heavy investment, production costs in Britain were lower than in the other countries. Production costs per tonne were £47 in the United Kingdom, £51·50 in Germany, £54·30 in France and £53·90 in Belgium. Production subsidies were provided by each country to bring their production costs into line with the prices at which their coal could be sold. In 1982 the revenue received per tonne was £38·10 in the United Kingdom, £37·50 in France, £39·20 in Belgium and £45·40 in the Federal Republic of Germany.

There is no doubt that, in the period since 1982., the massive gap between the investment finance provided by Britain and by other European countries has further widened, and the British investment programme in coal will have been more than double the investment made by the rest of the European Community put together.

Nuclear Power Stations (Protection)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy whether Her Majesty's Government require nuclear power stations in the United Kingdom to be designed to withstand direct hits on the reactor core from all known aerial bombs and high-explosive missiles.

It is not a formal requirement for nuclear power stations in the United Kingdom to be required to withstand bombardment from all known aerial bombs and high-explosive missiles. However the general safety requirement for protection against external hazards is such as to give a considerable degree of protection against weapons. The reactor core itself is extremely well-protected by steel and concrete structures but there is no guarantee that it would not be damaged by a nuclear weapon. As my right hon. Friend the then Minister of Slate at the Home Office explained to the House on 24 November 1982 at column 494 a direct hit by a nuclear weapon on a nuclear installation would cause no significant enhancement of blast, heat, or initial radiation.

Ncb (Deficit Grant Payment)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy whether he will make a statement about authority for deficit grant payments to the National Coal Board.

The present provision in Estimates approved by this House for deficit payments to the NCB during 1984–85 is £795 million. This provision was based on the deficit in 1984–85 foreseen before the strike, plus the outstanding element of the deficit in 1983–84.The summer Supplementary Estimate for NCB deficit grant contained a footnote explaining that payment of the full amount in the Estimate required an order under Section 3(4) of the Coal Industry Act 1980 increasing the aggregate amount of deficit grant authorised under the Act. I am laying such an order before the House in draft today.The Government also intend to present a winter Supplementary Estimate for a further £607 million of deficit grant within the proposed new ceiling of £2,000 million.

Cash Limits

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will give details of any changes to his Department's cash limit.

Subject to parliamentary approval of the necessary Supplementary Estimate, the cash limit of class IV, vote 5 will be increased by £45 million to £142,869,000.That increase represents provision for a grant to the British National Oil Corporation the reasons for which were explained in the minute which my Department laid before the House on 23 October.The increase of £45 million in BNOC's external financing requirement will be charged to the reserve and has been taken into account in the estimated outturn for the total of public expenditure for 1984–85 given by my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer in his autumn statement on 12 November 1984. The corporation's external financing requirement for 1984–85 is revised from minus £4 million to £41 million.

Employment

Labour Statistics

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) what is the latest figure for youth unemployment in the Liverpool travel-to-work area;(2) what are the latest figures for female unemployment in the Liverpool travel-to-work area;(3) what are the latest figures for male unemployment in the Liverpool travel-to-work area.

The information requested for the new travel-to-work area will become available next year. Corresponding data for the old Liverpool travel-to-work area are available in the House of Commons Library.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the percentage of unemployment among blind people of working age, namely, men under 65 years and women under 60 years.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will give the number of those aged under 20 years who were unemployed in (a) the county of Lancashire and (b) the borough of Burnley in May 1979 and at the latest available date; and what is the percentage increase.

Information on the age of claimant unemployed in administrative districts and counties will become available next year. Corresponding data for the old travel-to-work areas in the county of Lancashire are available in the House of Commons Library. The figures for 1979 are not directly comparable with current statistics because of the October 1982 change in the basis of the count.

Manufacturing Industries

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the number of people employed in United Kingdom manufacturing industries now as compared to the same date in 1983.

The latest estimate is for June 1984, when the number of employees in employment in manufacturing industries in the United Kingdom was 5,581,700. The corresponding number in June 1983 was 5,641,200.

Welwyn Hatfield Constituency

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will reconsider the inclusion of the Welwyn Hatfield constituency in the revised travel-to-work area of Luton and Watford; and if he will make a statement.

No. The Welwyn Hatfield constituency, with the exception of the Wheathampstead ward, which is in the Watford and Luton travel-to-work area, forms part of the Hertford and Harlow travel-to-work area. The relevant travel-to-work area boundary is based on an analysis of the travel to work pattersn shown by the 1981 census of population as described in a supplement published with the September edition of Employment Gazette, a copy of which is in the Library.The census data show that the part of the constituency which is in the Hertford and Harlow travel-to-work area has more work journeys to or from the rest of that travel-to-work area than to or from the Watford and Luton travel-to-work area. The same source shows that there are more journeys between Wheathampstead and the rest of the Watford and Luton travel-to-work area than between Wheathampstead and the Hertford and harlow travel-to-work area.

Textile Firms (Inspectors)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many extra factory and wages inspectors will be hired to undertake the extra visits to the premises of textile firms recently announced by his Department.

The special inspection initiative concerning textile and clothing factories in the west Midlands, Leicester and East London, announced on September 10, is being undertaken by existing staff. Allocation of inspectors to particular blocks of work is dealt with flexibly in response to changing needs and staff are not in general recruited for specific purposes such as this campaign.

Video Display Units

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will now undertake a comprehensive study into the possible health hazards to operators of video display units; and if he will make a statement.

The Health and Safety Executive has published a research paper on the human aspects of visual display units and a guidance book. Both publications consider health aspects. The executive is currently preparing a pamphlet for operators which will deal with health aspects, including those relating to women in pregnancy.The executive is also monitoring the progress of a number of current studies into the possible health effects of using VDUs. The possibility of funding further research is being considered.

Ault And Wiborg Paint Factory, Perivale

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if the Health and Safety Executive is satisfied with the current and proposed standards of health and safety at the Ault and Wiborg paint factory in Perivale; and if he will make a statement.

I am advised that the Health and Safety Executive is actively discussing health and safety standards with the management at this factory. I am satisfied that steps are being taken to ensure that the standards are acceptable.

Wages

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if, in respect of the consultations he is to carry out in respect of proposals for the protection of wages legislation, he will list the organisations and individuals that responded to the original consultative document, indicating (a) those who broadly supported repeal of the existing right of manual workers to be paid in cash and (b) those expressing concern about malpractice in respect of deductions from pay.

The Department received over 100 letters from organisations of employers and workers, and from other bodies, in response to the original consultative document issued in March 1983. Of the five options put forward in the paper, a substantial majority of respondents favoured repeal of the Truck Acts with the enactment of up-to-date legislation to protect workers from arbitrary deductions from wages. Those views were taken into account when preparing the more detailed legislative proposals concerning deductions from pay issued for consultation on 31 October.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish in the Official Report details of the legislative and administrative measures which have been adopted by the other member states of the European Community for the implementation of their obligations relating to low pay and minimum wages under the convention of the International Labour Organisation.

In addition to the United Kingdom the following member states of the European Community have ratified international labour convention No. 26 concerning the creation of minimum wage fixing machinery — Belgium, France, Federal Republic of Germany, Republic of Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg and the Netherlands. Details of the legislative and administrative measures used to apply the convention in individual member states are not readily available, without disproportionate cost.

Newham (Training)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many men and women, listed separately, are on special employment or training measures in (a) the London borough of Newham and (b) the Constituency of Newham, North-East.

Some 3,200 people are benefiting from the employment and training measures in the London borough of Newham, although because of the various bases on which local information is collated, an unknown proportion will be in areas outside the borough and the hon. Member's constituency. I am unable to provide a separate number for men and women on these measures in the borough without incurring disproportionate cost.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many young people left school last September in the London borough of Newham; how many ment on to further education; how many got jobs; how many went on to youth training schemes; and how many are unemployed.

Available statistics from the Newham careers service shows that 2,312 16-year-olds left school in the London borough of Newham in the academic year ending 31 August 1984. The other information requested will not be available until a survey by the careers service to establish the destinations of these school leavers is completed in December.

Agricultural Workers (Fatalities And Injuries)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many agricultural workers have been killed and injured through contact with overhead power cables in the last year for which figures are available.

During 1983 seven agricultural workers were injured through contact with overhead power cables, none of them fatally.

Race Relations Act 1976

asked the Secretary of State for Employment when he plans to introduce legislation to amend the Race Relations Act 1976 in respect of the code of practice for the elimination of racial discrimination and the promotion of equality of opportunity in employment, published by the Commission for Racial Equality.

It remains our intention to amend section 47 of the Race Relations Act to enable the Secretary of State to amend codes of practice before their presentation to Parliament for approval. My right hon. Friend will make an announcement in due course.

Careers Advice

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the current level of careers advice available in secondary schools.

The provision of careers advice in secondary schools is the responsibility of local education authorities. If the hon. Member knows of any particular problems I and my right hon. Friend, the Secretary of State for Education and Science, would be pleased to hear from him.

Average Wage

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the current national average wage.

The latest figures on the average earnings of full time adult employees working a full week relate to April 1984 and are given in table 1 of "New Earnings Survey", 1984 part A, a copy of which is in the Library.

European Social Fund (Fife)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what proposals for schemes have been submitted by his Department in the last three months on behalf of Fife regional council for consideration for support under the European social fund; what is the potential number of young people who may benefit from these schemes; and when he expects a determination of these applications.

The deadline for the submission of 1985 applications to the European social fund was 22 October. The Department submitted 10 applications for support under the fund on behalf of Fife regional council. They are listed below:

Number of Beneficiaries
Schemes for young people aged under 25:
Employment subsidy scheme225
Business training for young people24
Preliminary training for handicapped young people45
Vocational training for handicapped young people24
Training in Levenmouth enterprise centre60
Total378
Schemes for adults aged over 25:
Employment subsidy scheme175
Enterprise training for small and medium-sized firms48
Preliminary vocational training for women48
Vocational training fkor women48
Training in Levenmouth enterprise centre40
Total359
The European Commission's decisions on 1985 applications are expected next March.

Coal Industry Dispute

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) why unemployment benefits are being denied to persons who are out of work as a consequence of the coal mining dispute and are not directly involved in the strike; and if he will make a statement;(2) how many persons in Barnsley and district are employed by AMCO Industrial Holdings Ltd. are being denied unemployment benefits because they have been laid off as a result of the coal mining dispute; by what statutory powers these payments are being denied; and if he will make a statement.

The benefit entitlement of someone who loses employment as a result of a trade dispute is governed by section 19 of the Social Security Act 1975. Decisions on claims are made by the independent adjudicating authorities.A total of 238 people in Barnsley and district employed by AMCO Industrial Holdings have been disqualified from receiving benefit.

Youth Training Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) excluding those employees who represent the additionality factor in mode A of the youth training scheme, what is the latest figure for the numbers and percentages of youth training scheme trainees in (a) Scotland and (b) Great Britain who have secured permanent employment;(2) what proportion of youth training scheme entrants who have completed a full year's traning

(a) secure regular work and (b) are unemployed in (i) Scotland and (ii) Great Britain.

Detailed comprehensive information on the destinations of youngsters leaving the youth training scheme is not available. However, a recent sample survey showed that 58 per cent. of those leavers responding went into employment and a further 13 per cent. either went into or intended to go into further training or education. A copy of the paper containing the detailed results of this sample survey has been placed in the Library.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will describe the basis on which he calculates that 70 per cent. or more of youth trainees have secured work or further training, and provide the total figures on which this calculation is based.

The latest calculations on the destinations of youth training scheme leavers are based on the paper entitled "YTS Leavers", a copy of which has been placed in the Library. This paper includes a breakdown of the various destinations of leavers obtained from the recent sample survey of 3,500 young people in nine Manpower Services Commission areas who left individual programmes within the youth training scheme between 1 April and 31 July. The survey showed that 58 per cent. of the young people were in work and that a further 13 per cent. were in, or intending to go into, further training or education.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make it a condition of renewal of the youth training scheme that the sponsors observe equal opportunity policies.

All contracts between the Manpower Services Commission and managing agents and sponsors include a clause requiring them to observe equal opportunities policy. Youngsters on the youth training scheme are covered by the Race Relations Act 1976 and the Sex Discrimination Act 1975 in respect of recruitment to, and termination from, the youth training scheme.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will ask the Manpower Services Commission to make full use of the Commission for Racial Equality and local community relations councils when implementing equal opportunity policy in the youth training scheme.

The Manpower Services Commission will continue to use the Commission for Racial Equality and the local community relations councils as a source of advice, and guidance will be issued to managing agents and sponsors who participate in the youth training scheme to recognise this source of advice in implementing equal opportunities.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) what steps he will take to see that the recommendations given by University of Bristol staff to the Manpower Services Commission are put into effect with respect to equal opportunities and the youth training scheme;(2) whether he has considered the report on ethnic minorities and the youth training scheme prepared by Bristol university staff for the Manpower Services Commission.

I understand that the report is presently under consideration by the Manpower Services Commission.

Work Permits

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many work permits were issued in 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982 and 1983, respectively.

The number of work permits issued in the years 1979 to 1983 were as follows:

YearEmployment expected to last 11 months or moreEmployment expected to last less than 11 monthsTotal
19798,3449,64917,993
19806,4238,23814,661
19815,7806,98312,763
19825,5697,32812,897
19835,8187,72813,546

Information Technology Centres

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what representations he has recently received on the funding of information technology centres.

I have not recently received any representations which directly concern the general basis on which information technology centres are funded.

Employment And Training Act 1973

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will introduce legislation to govern the form of directions given under the Employment and Training Act 1973.

Manpower Services Commission (Racial Discrimination)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what further measures he is planning to eliminate racial discrimination from all aspects of the operation of Manpower Services Commission schemes in the light of the recent report by the Commission for Racial Equality and the report by Bristol university staff prepared on behalf of the Manpower Services Commission.

I understand that both reports are currently under consideration by the Manpower Services Commission.

Area Manpower Boards

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will take steps to increase minority representation on area manpower boards.

Redundancy Payments

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is now the average statutory redundancy payment; and what proportion of it is met from the redundancy fund.

In the period April to September this year the average payment was £1,500. The redundancy fund pays a rebate of 41 per cent. to employers. I shall be introducing an order later in the Session to reduce that rebate to 35 per cent. as from next April.

Training Loans

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what progress he has made on the proposals on training loans in the White Paper "Training for Jobs".

In the White Paper "Training for Jobs" we announced our intention of examining the possibility of introducing a scheme of loans for adult trainees who want to undertake training of their own choice. I am today publishing a consultative paper on training loans which sets out our view of how an experimental scheme might operate. Copies of the consultative paper are available in the Vote Office.

Community Programme

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the number of women employed on the Manpower Services Commission's community programme; what percentage of the total community programme work force are women; and, of these, how many were in receipt of benefit before joining the scheme.

[pursuant to his reply, 9 November 1984, c. 28]: Information is collected monthly about entrants to the community programme. Over the 12 months up to 28 September, 23 per cent. of entrants were woman; a total of 34,450. Over 85 per cent. of entrants were themselves in receipt of benefit immediately before joining the programme and, on the basis of a sample survey of participants in October 1983, just over half of those not receiving benefits directly would be women. However, some would be indirect recipients and in the rule changes to the programme which came into effect on 1 October, we provided that where unemployment or supplementary benefit is claimed by the head of the household and includes an element of payment for an unemployed spouse, that spouse will be regarded as a benefit recipient for the purposes of eligibility.

Northern Ireland

National Health Service

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many people were employed in the National Health Service in the Province at the latest date; what were the figures for June 1979; and if he will make a statement.

Health and personal social services are fully integrated in Northern Ireland and the total number of staff employed at the relevant dates were:—30 June 1979—60,606 (44,545 whole-time equivalent) 30 September 1984 — 67,001 (49,207 whole-time equivalent)

Doctors

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many doctors were employed in the National Health Service in the Province at the latest date; what were the figures for June 1979; and if he will make a statement.

The information is as follows:—

  • September 1984—1,880
  • June 1979–1,730
These figures include doctors working in the hospital service and in community health and community medicine and some general practitioners who undertake part-time community health or hospital work. General practitioners are independent contractors and therefore are not included in these figures unless they also hold part-time hospital or community health appointments.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many doctors were unemployed in the Province at the latest available date: and what the comparable figures were for June 1979.

Driving Licences

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many driving licences issued by the Department of the Environment (N.I.) are currently in use in the Province.

A total of 574,158 persons currently hold a full Northern Ireland driving licence; 73,476 hold a provisional driving licence.

Voluntary Schools

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how much land has been vested on behalf of voluntary schools under article 10 of the Northern Ireland Education Order 1978; and whether any such scheme is presently under consideration.

No land has been vested and no proposals are at present under consideration.

Transport

Manchester Airport

14.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will make a statement about progress towards a rail link to Manchester international airport.

I understand British Rail and the Manchester International Airport Authority are awaiting the results of further evaluation studies before deciding whether to pursue the project further.

London (Dial-A-Ride)

17.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what discussion he has had with London borough councils as to the future of the dial-a-ride service.

My Department is holding discussions now with representatives of the London boroughs about future arrangements for funding dial-a-ride and other services for disabled people.

M65 Motorway

19.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what progress has been made in appointing the consultants in respect of the Blackburn/M6-M61 section of the M65 motorway; and when they are expected to report.

Messrs. Howard Humphreys and Partners have been appointed as consulting engineers and were given details of their commission last month. We have asked them to prepare a detailed report on all aspects of the new all-purpose road south of Blackburn within 12 months so that we can then take decisions about the preferred route.

Transport Supplementary Grant

20.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what consultations he has had with the passenger transport executives concerning the proposed changes in allocation of transport supplementary grant under section 20 of the Transport Act 1968.

None, TSG is not paid to PTEs, but to metropolitan county councils and the GLC (as well as to shire counties). I refer to my reply to the hon. Member for Ealing, Southall (Mr. Bidwell) earlier this afternoon—I consulted the Association of Metropolitan Authorities, among others.

41.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport how much was spent on section 20 grants within the transport supplementary grant in the financial year 1984–85.

In the 1984–85 transport supplementary grant settlement for England my right hon. Friend accepted £53·4 million of metropolitan county councils' estimated expenditure on support for local rail services. Because TSG is a block grant, it is not possible to identify any part of it with support paid by the metropolitan county councils to PTEs for local rail services.

59.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will estimate the effect of the withdrawal of transport supplementary grant from certain classes of capital expenditure, such as car parks and many local roads on the feasibility of financing such expenditure.

Subject to parliamentary approval of the necessary order, capital expenditure on many major road schemes will be supported with transport supplementary grant at the rate of 50 per cent. in 1985–86—this should go a long way towards financing the most expensive items in local authorities' highways capital programmes. Authorities have always financed the larger part of their transport capital expenditure themselves with the help of the rate support grant and there is no reason why they should not continue to finance comprehensive highways capital programmes within the resources available to them.

Motorways (Speed Limits)

21.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether he will consider raising the speed limit for cars using Britain's motorways.

29.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will review the speed limits on motorways.

A review of the national motorway speed limit was carried out this year. We concluded that the limit should remain at 70 mph. It would be premature to review the matter again so soon.

West Midlands (Northern Relief Route)

23.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport when he expects to announce a decision on the suggested northern relief route for the west midlands.

I hope that the choice of preferred route following the public consultation will be announced early next year.

Railways (Electrification)

25.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what is the latest estimated cost of electrifying the east coast main line.

The electrification of the east coast main line was approved at a cost of £306 million at 1983 fourth quarter prices. British Rail does not expect the cost to exceed this figure but it does have to find the money from within its own resources.

53.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport when he proposes to increase resources available to British Rail to enable the board to electrify lines between Manchester, Liverpool, Preston and Blackpool.

The Government are ready to approve worthwhile investments which offer a sound prospect for improving the financial performance of the railways. However, it is for BR to decide its investment priorities and whether to bring forward specific schemes. It has made no proposals to me for the schemes mentioned by the hon. Member.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will now announce his decision on electrification of the North London line.

I have now written to the chairman of British Rail giving our consent to the electrification of the 6-mile freight route between Camden road junction and Stratford, together with some freight terminals in north east London and Essex, and the purchase of four locomotives, at a total cost of £12·149 million. Our decision was based on an appraisal that showed the board's proposal to be justified on its financial merits.

Freight Handling Costs

26.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what information he has as to the relative costs of handling freight at (a) scheme ports (b) non-scheme ports and (c) ports in Holland and Belgium.

My Department does not have such information, much of which is commercially confidential.

Helicopters

27.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will make a statement on priority areas for improving helicopter safety.

Present and future helicopter airworthiness certification standards have been reviewed in depth by the Helicopter Airworthiness Review Panel (HARP) formed by the Airworthiness Requirements Board. Its report was published in June this year and makes 15 recommendations with emphasis on improvements in crashworthiness, sea survivability and reliability of rotor and transmission systems. Preliminary action is being taken on those capable of being implemented in the short term and actions are being planned on the remainder.The trial track structure to and from Aberdeen has reduced the number of airmisses reported between helicopter and military aircraft; the trial is being extended through the winter months to determine its effectiveness when icing conditions force helicopters to fly at much lower heights. Revisions have also been introduced to the procedures for military aircraft at the Rosehearty bombing range. With the increasing helicopter activity in the Humberside area, the Ministry of Defence and the national air traffic services are currently developing procedures to integrate the activities of civil helicopters and military aircraft.

Private Roads (Humps)

28.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will amend the appropriate regulations to exempt private roads from the requirement to illuminate road humps.

Private roads which are not highways, are exempt from the provisions of the road humps regulations, though I would hope that the spirit of the regulations would be followed. Lighting is important to ensure that humps are clearly seen by motorists.

Buses (White Paper)

30.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport how many organisations have submitted comments on the White Paper, "Buses," Cmnd. 9300.

36.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what representations he has received on his White Paper, "Buses"; and if he will make a statement.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what representations he has had in connection with the White Paper, "Buses".

57.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what representations he has received following the publication of the White Paper, "Buses".

58.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport how many representations he has received concerning the White Paper, "Buses".

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what representations he has had on the White Paper, "Buses".

I refer my hon. Friends and the hon. Gentlemen to the answer I gave to the hon. Member for Edinburgh, East (Mr. Strang) earlier today.

38.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether he will arrange for the supply and distribution of his Department's leaflet, "Buses: a guide to the White Paper", to residents in Southampton.

49.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport how many representations he has received from individual taxi drivers and their representative bodies on the proposals in his recent White Paper, "Buses".

I have received over 300 representations from individual taxi drivers and their associations. All but 95 of these consisted of a common printed text.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will place in the Library all the replies to the White Paper, "Buses".

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what representations he has received on his White Paper, "Buses", Cmnd. 9300.

I have received around 2,000 representations on the White Paper and on the consultation documents which my Department issued following the publication of the White Paper.As announced in the Gracious Speech we will be bringing forward a Bill later in this Session to implement the proposals. The representations we have received are being studied by my Department as part of the preparation of that Bill.

Glc Lorry Ban

31.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will estimate the effect on businesses of the implementation of the Greater London (Restriction of Goods Vehicles) Traffic Order.

I have so far seen no adequate justification by the GLC of its proposals or detailed assessment of the effects. What is clear is that hundreds of firms and trade associations have written voicing concern over the potential impact of the proposals on jobs and prices in London.

34.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what action he proposes to take following the Greater London council's proposals for a night-time and weekends ban on heavy lorries.

48.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what representations he has received on the proposals by the Greater London council to ban lorries within the Greater London council area at night and weekends; and what action he proposes to take on this matter.

I have made clear my view that for a major London-wide proposal of this magnitude a properly constituted public inquiry would provide a well established democratic method of assessment.I understand the GLC transport committee will be meeting on 21 November to consider the massive response to consultation and the many hundreds of calls for a public inquiry.

Liverpool Freeport

32.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what discussions he has had with the Mersey Docks and Harbour Company on the progress of the Liverpool freeport; and if he will make a statement.

The company showed me the site and discussed it briefly with me when I visited the port earlier this year. My right hon. Friend will also be visiting the port shortly. I understand that the freeport has been operational since the beginning of October and will be opened officially by Her Royal Highness Princess Anne on 29 November.

Air Fares

33.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what progress he has made in negotiating more competitive fares for air travelling in Europe.

We want our airlines to be free to introduce more competitive fares wherever they see a market need which is not being adequately met. They now have that freedom between the United Kingdom and the Netherlands and some fares have come down to as little as £49 return as a result. Substantial reductions have also been obtained in fares to the Federal Republic of Germany. Except in the Netherlands, fares require the approval of both Governments. We are seeking to persuade our other partners in Europe that the approval of the country where the journey starts should be a sufficient safeguard against both monopoly exploitation and uneconomic dumping.

Motorways (Roadworks)

35.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether his Department has considered an effective system of cost benefit analysis for major roadworks on motorways.

We use sophisticated surveying techniques to determine when major motorway maintenance works are needed and the most cost-effective treatment required. In planning the works we always take account of the cost of traffic disruption.

Settle—Carlisle Line

37.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what will be the date for the start of the public inquiry into the proposed closure of the Settle to Carlisle line.

The Transport Act 1962 provides that the area transport users consultative committees with whom objections to a closure proposal have been lodged may decide to hear objections and representations orally.I understand that in the case of the British Railways Board's proposal to withdraw passenger services over the Settle—Carlisle line, the TUCCs concerned are unlikely to be ready to hold public hearings before the spring, though this is of course a matter for them.

M25 (Reigate—Wisley)

39.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will provide latest estimates for the dates when the three remaining M25 contracts in the south western quarter between Reigate and Wisley will be complete and the road open to traffic.

The contract completion dates for the Wisley—Leatherhead and Leatherhead—Reigate sections are 5 August and 26 August 1985, respectively. The Leatherhead interchange section was completed nine months early but it cannot be used without one of the adjoining sections. I expect the whole of the length between Reigate and Wisley to be opened to traffic next summer.

Rail Lines (Bus Substitution)

40.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he expects to introduce a Bill on the substitution of rail by bus services in the present Session of Parliament.

50.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether he plans to introduce bus substitution for rail services in England.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether he has any plans to encourage the substitution of buses for certain rail lines.

The House will be invited to approve enabling legislation this Session. Under it, when British Rail sought consent from the Secretary of State to the withdrawal of a railway service, it would be able to propose substitute bus services.

Municipal Bus Undertakings

42.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether he intends municipal bus undertakings to become public limited companies or whether he proposes to seek privatisation.

The intention is that initially district councils bus undertakings should be incorporated as limited liability companies, wholly owned by the parent authorities. It will be open to district councils to privatise the companies subsequently if they wish, though we are not seeking to require them to do so.

Channel And River Crossings

43.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if Her Majesty's Government will give priority to a second Severn crossing a third Dartford tunnel and the faster completion of the present trunk road programme over a Channel crossing.

The trunk road programme will be completed as quickly as the statutory procedures and necessary finance allow.The need for a second Severn crossing has not been established but a study into how a second crossing might be provided—should it be needed—is under way and will be completed in 1986.The Dartford tunnel is the responsibility of Essex and Kent county councils but traffic flows are being monitored and the need for extra capacity will be reviewed as necessary.The Government have made clear that any scheme for a Channel fixed link would have to be financed entirely by the private sector and without any form of Government commercial guarantee.

London Regional Transport

44.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport when he last met the chairman of London Regional Transport.

My right hon. Friend last met the chairman of London Regional Transport on 24 July 1984. I met him on 31 October 1984 and see him from time to time as necessary.

Rear Seat Belts

45.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether he will introduce legislation to make the wearing of rear seat belts compulsory.

Cross-Channel Link

47.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what developments there have been in the past three months over the provision of a fixed cross-Channel link.

I understand that various groups are still considering the preparation of detailed financing proposals for a Channel fixed link, following the reply given by my right Hon. Friend on 22 May to my hon. Friends the Members for Maidstone (Sir J. Wells), and Folkestone and Hythe (Mr. Howard) at column 380–381. My right hon. Friend will be meeting the French Minister of Transport this week to consider what the next steps for the two Governments should be, if proposals meeting the conditions set out in our earlier statement are forthcoming.

Scottish Lowland Airports

asked the Secretary of State for Transport when he will complete the review of Scotland's lowland airports.

60.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what representations he has received regarding the "Review of Scottish Lowland Airport Policy".

Over 270 specific responses to the consultation document, and about 500 more general letters.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport when he now expects to complete the review of Scottish lowland airports.

Rail Services (Expenditure)

52.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what was the total expenditure on rail services, under section 20 of the Transport Act 1968, in the most recent year for which information is available.

55.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what was the total expenditure on rail services, under section 20 of the Transport Act 1968, in the most recent year for which information is available.

The British Railways Board's annual report for 1983 shows payments of £77·8 million due in that year from passenger transport executives under section 20 of the Transport Act 1968.

Road And Rail Passenger Transport

54.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will make a statement on the Government's views on competition between road and rail passenger transport.

Competition ensures that the consumer can choose the best services and the best prices. The Government are determined to widen the scope for competition wherever possible and this certainly includes competition between the various modes of transport.

Rail And Waterway Facilities

56.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what grant he has given in the current year for rail and waterway facilities; and what effects these have had on road traffic.

So far this year I have approved 12 rail grants and one waterway grant. My right hon. Friends the Secretaries of State for Wales and Scotland have each approved two rail grants. When built and running at full potential it is anticipated that these projects will avoid more than 200,000 lorry movements a year on environmentally unsuitable roads.

Bus And Coach Operators

61.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will raise the operator's licence fee paid by bus and coach operators for each vehicle.

The public service vehicles operator's licence fee is set at a figure which covers expenditure on administration and enforcement of operator licensing. Fees are now calculated at £42 per vehicle per year and this is kept under review.

M40 (Birmingham-Oxford)

62.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport when a decision on the M40 Birmingham-Oxford extension is now expected.

My right hon. Friends the Secretaries of State for Transport and the Environment are currently considering the report of the independent inspector who conducted public inquiries into the proposals between September 1982 and June 1983. We hope to announce our decisions around the end of the year.

Pedestrian Crossings (Prohibited Parking)

63.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport why zig-zag lines indicating that parking is prohibited ahead of pedestrian crossings are not also used ahead of traffic lights.

The zig-zag lines at zebra crossings prohibit overtaking as well as parking. It would not be right to prohibit overtaking on the approaches to a junction controlled by traffic lights. Parking prohibitions on the approaches to traffic lights can be indicated by the use of yellow lines.

M25 (Reigate-Leatherhead)

64.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will make a statement on the decision by Bovis Birse to cease work on the Reigate-Leatherhead interchange section of the M25 for six months, after having been granted a six-month extension for completion of the contract.

This contract follows the ICE Conditions of Contract (5th Edition). The Department's consultants who have an independent role as engineer to the contract have awarded extensions of time until 26 August 1985. It is for the contractor to decide his own programme to meet this date; if it is not met, liquidated damages will be payable. I expect the whole length of the M25 between Wisley and Reigate to be completed next summer.

Civil Engineering Work (Vat)

65.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what reduction in his Department's programme will be caused by the decision to extend value added tax liability to roads and other civil engineering work.

Latest estimates indicate that the reduction in resources available for the motorway and trunk road programme following the extension of value-added tax to alterations to civil engineering works will be not more than £3 million in total over this and the next financial year. This will not significantly affect the pace and momentum of the trunk road programme. From April 1985 all tax on highways works will be recoverable.

Road Freight Transport

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will publish the latest forecasts for road freight transport in (a) million tonnes and (b) thousand million tonne kilometres for the years 1985, 1990, 1995, 2000, 2005 and 2010.

Uncertainty inevitably surrounds forecasts of road freight made many years into the future. For this reason the Department adopts a range of forecasts. The forecasts of goods carried by road which underlie the current National Road Traffic Forecasts, published in July 1980, are as follows:

Road Freight
million tonnesbillion tonnes-kms
lowhighlowhigh
19851,5051,515109·4116·8
19901,5101,530115·7126·1
19951,5151,545119·1132·6
20001,5201,560122·5137·6
Forecasts of road freight traffic (vehicle-kms) beyond 2000 are produced by extrapolation: no forecasts of goods carried by road are available after that date.These forecasts are currently under review.

Roads (Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will show regional expenditure on roads in the same format as table 1.13 in "Transport Statistics Great Britain 1972–82" for the years 1980–81, 1982–83 and 1983–84.

An equivalent table for 1982–83 will be included in Transport Statistics Great Britain, 1973–83, which is due to be published next month. Information for 1983–84 is not yet available, but a table is to be compiled for next years issue of Transport Statistics Great Britain. Figures for 1980–81 could only be produced at disproportionate cost.

Airports

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will list the bids for expenditure on airport improvements currently in his hands in respect of proposed capital expenditure in 1985–86.

Such bids are regarded as having been made in confidence and it is not the practice for the Government to publish them.

291 Plumstead High Street, London, Se18

asked the Secretary of State for Transport (1) what references his Department obtained on the suitability of the applicants before letting 291 Plumstead High Street, London, SE18, for use as a hostel for homeless young men;(2) when the letting of his Department's property at 291 Plumstead High Street, London, SE18, as a hostel for homeless youths commenced; what is the total sum now due in rent; and how much has so far been received.

References were obtained from the South East London Probation and After-Care Service, the applicants' bank and a local business.The letting of this property as a hostel for homeless youths commenced on 18 April 1983. Following an initial three months rent-free period, during which an agreed schedule of repairs was carried out, a total of £4,959·77 arrears of rent has accrued and no moneys have been received.

A47 (Billesdon Bypass)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he still anticipates that work on the A47 Billesdon bypass will commence in the current year.

Construction of the Billesdon bypass is now expected to start in the early summer of 1985.Following a public inquiry into the scheme proposals, earlier this year, the inspector recommended minor modifications and consultations with those affected have now been successfully completed.

Motorways

asked the Secretary of State for Transport how many kilometres of motorway were (a) in use, (b) under construction and (c) planned but not under construction at 1 November 1983 and 1984.

The information requested is as follows:

Kilometres of motorway as at1 November 19831 November 1984
In use2,2942,368
Under construction124137
Planned242186

Road Accidents (Statistics)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will state, for 1982 and 1983, the costs to the community of road accidents, categorised by (a) lost output, (b) police and administration, (c) medical and ambulance services, (d) damage to property and (e) pain, grief and suffering.

The estimated costs of road accidents for 1982 and 1983 are:

£ million
19821983
(a) Lost output715693
(b) Police and administration124124
(c) Medical and ambulance services*73119
(d) Damage to property903906
(e) Pain, grief and suffering560535
Total cost2,3752,378
* Medical and ambulance costs in the two years have been calculated on a different basis and the two figures are not comparable (the main difference being that the 1983 figure, unlike that for 1982, includes a capital cost element).

M1-M6 (Lighting)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether he will list those sections of the M1 motorway up to junction 19 and those sections of the M6 motorway to junction 7 which are presently without lighting, giving the total number of miles of unlit motorway between these points and the total number of miles of motorway between these points which are lit.

The unlit sections of the M1 motorway up to junction 19 are from Newport Pagnell service area (north of junction 14) to Heyford (junction 16), and Watford Gap (junction 17) to Catthorpe (junction 19). The unlit sections of the M6 motorway up to junction 7 are from Catthorpe (junction 19 on M1) to the eastern side of junction 2 and from the western side of junction 2 to Coleshill (junction 4). The total unlit length of motorway on the MI up to junction 19 is 22 miles, and the corresponding lit length is 55 miles. The total unlit length of motorway on the M6 up to junction 7 is 21 miles, and the corresponding lit length is 15 miles.

Radioactive Waste

asked the Secretary of State for Transport, what regulations he enforces for the transportation of radioactive waste through England by road and rail; and if he will make a statement.

The safety standards for the transport of radioactive materials are based on the International Atomic Energy Agency's Regulations for the Safe Transport of Radioactive Materials 1973 Revised Edition (as amended). These are given effect in the UK by the following:

  • (i) Road
    • The Radio-active Substances (Carriage by Road) (Great Britain) Regulations 1974 (SI 1974/1735)
    • The Radio-active Substances (Road Transport Workers) (Great Britain) Regulations 1970 (SI 1970/1827) and (Amendment) Regulations 1975 (SI 1975/1522)
  • (ii) Rail
    • British Railways Board List of Dangerous Goods (LDG) and Conditions of Acceptance by Freight and Passenger Train (1977 Edition as amended)
  • Bypassed Communities (Service Signs)

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport what has been the outcome of the consultation he has recently undertaken with regard to local service signs for bypassed communities.

    Although replies were requested by the end of October, comments are still being received, so it is too early to reach conclusions on the proposals.

    Air Treaties (Far East)

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport if, in the interest of protecting British Airways against competition on its routes to Australia, it is his intention to seek revision of air treaties with Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia and the Philippines; and if he will make a statement.

    I have no plans at present to seek any changes in our arrangements with Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore. We have, however, been unable satisfactorily to resolve a recent dispute with the Philippines and have therefore given 12 months' notice to terminate the air services agreement. During this period I shall be prepared to consider any proposals which will lead to the maintenance of services between Manila and Hong Kong and between Manila and London on a basis which is acceptable to both parties.

    Local Government Reform

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport what assessment he has made of the impact on transport fares on Merseyside of Her Majesty's Government's plans to abolish the Merseyside county council.

    Abolition of the metropolitan counties will not, of itself, affect the level of fares in the metropolitan areas.

    Microlight Aircraft

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he has had discussions with the Civil Aviation Authority concerning the mandatory fitting of stroboscopic anti-collision beacons to microlight aircraft; and if he will make a statement.

    Discussions have not been held with the Civil Aviation Authority on this issue. Neither we nor the CAA have been approached about the fitting of such lights.

    Dim-Dip Regulations

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will list all the representations received to date in favour of the proposed dim-dip regulations and also all those against.

    The dim-dip regulations were made on 14 December 1983 and came into operation on 13 January 1984.Since we first consulted on the dim-dip regulations in November 1982 we have received representations from the following:

    In support of Dim-Dip

    • The Royal Automobile Club
    • The Royal Scottish Automobile Club
    • The Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents
    • The Traffic Committee of the Association of Chief Police Officers
    • The Institute of Public Lighting Engineers
    • The Association of Optical Practitioners
    • The Chartered Institute of Buildings Services (incorporating the Illuminating Engineering Society)
    • Institute of Highway Engineers
    • Institution of Municipal Engineers
    • Institute of Road Transport Engineers
    • National Association of Approved Driving Instructors
    • British Motorcyclists Federation
    • Pedal Cyclists Association
    • Pedestrians Association
    • The Company of Veteran Motorists
    • The Freight Transport Association
    • The Association of County Councils
    • The Association of District Councils
    • National Association of Local Councils
    • Local Authorities Co-ordinating Body on Trading Standards
    • Chartered Institute of Transport
    • Scottish Motor Traders Association
    • Institute of Transport Administration
    • British Gas
    • Co-operative Union Limited
    • Birmingham Chamber of Commerce and Industry
    • The Hull Road Courtesy and Safety Group
    • Association of Motorcyclists Against Discriminatory Legislation
    • Taylor and Whittaker—Consultant Engineers
    • The Sand and Gravel Association
    • Darstan Limited—Component Manufacturers
    • Stella Limited—Component Manufacturers

    Opposed to Dim-Dip

    • The Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders and a number of individual vehicle manufacturers
    • The Night Safety Advisory Bureau
    • The Automobile Association
    • The Parliamentary Advisory Council for Transport Safety
    • The Road Haulage Association GLC Officers
    • The Bus and Coach Council
    • The Motor Agents Association
    • The Association of Trailer Manufacturers
    • The Motor Caravaners Association

    Motorways (Signposts)

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether he will consider the viability of supplementary sign posts on Britain's motorways.

    I am always willing to consider ways of improving our traffic signs but it is vital, in the interests of road safety, that signing on our motorways is kept to the minimum necessary for the safe guidance and efficient management of traffic.

    Testing Stations

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will detail the likely effect on the existing Ministry of Transport testing stations, should the proposed Ministry of Transport regulations be introduced.

    I intend to set new conditions for garages entering the MOT testing scheme to improve its operation. I propose that existing testing stations should also meet these conditions, but to give them a liberal period in which to comply.The main changes that existing stations would be expected to make involve the size and layout of testing bays, which would be used only for MOT or commercial inspection work; minor changes to equipment; the provision of a waiting room overlooking the testing area; and improved arrangements for the safe keeping of test certificates.Representatives of the motor trade and motoring organisations have been consulted about these proposals but not all have yet submitted their replies. When they have been received, I shall take them into account before reaching a final decision.

    Wales

    Local Government

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will publish his reply to the seven-point resolution forwarded to him by the Welsh counties committee and supported by the district councils of Wales calling for an independent commission to report on the constitutional relationship between central and local government, passed by the Welsh local authority associations at the Cardiff meeting on 4 June.

    The Welsh counties committee was informed that we saw no need to establish such a commission. The constitutional position of local authorities is clear. Their boundaries, powers and functions have been established by Act of Parliament and are subject to change by the will of Parliament.

    Anglesey

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will state as accurately as possible figues of those in work in Anglesey for each of the last six years; how many are full-time; how many are part-time; how many are female; and how many are self-employed.

    Information on employees in employment disaggregated to the level requested is not collected annually. The Census of Employment is now carried out triennially and the latest information available is that from the Census of Employment conducted in 1981. The figures for 1981 and 1978 are:

    Employees in Employment in Anglesey
    All EmployeesFull-timePart-timeFemales
    June 197816,85814,0062,8526,141
    June 198116,43713,0703,3676,256
    The Census of Population in 1981 gave a figure of 3,693 for the number of self-employed at that time: information in respect of subsequent years is not available.

    Ec Surplus Foodstuffs

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if, in relation to the storage of surplus EEC foodstuffs in Wales, he will indicate (a) the nature of the commodities involved, (b) the total volume or quantity in each case,(c) the total value according to the latest prices in each case, (d) total floor space occupied in each case, (e) the cost of providing rental and/or rates payable in each case, and (f) the original purchase costs in each case providing the information according to location in Wales; what was the position with regard to each of the above categories of information (i) one year ago and (ii) two years ago; and if he will estimate how each category is expected to change in the next year.

    The information requested in (a), (b) and (c) is as follow at 30 September 1984:

    (a) Commodity(b) Quantity (Tonnes)(c) Value £ million
    Skimmed Milk Powder22,26322·85
    Butter14,77228·50
    Beef4751·32
    The information requested at

    (d) is not available, that at (e) is commercially confidential and the information sought at (f), (i) and (ii) could be obtained only at disproportionate cost. It is not possible to give a reasonable estimate of the storage position in Wales over the next year. Stocks will fluctuate as a result of offer levels determined by market forces, sales controlled by Commission decisions, and availability and cost of storage space.

    Education Expenditure

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what has been the change in real terms in the total amount of funds he has given or sanctioned to be expended by local education authorities in Wales between 1979–80 and 1984–85.

    In cost terms the change between local authorities' actual expenditure in 1979–80 and planned provision for 1984–85 is a decrease of 2 per cent. This figure is calculated using the deflator for gross domestic product at market prices.

    School Closures

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many school closures he has approved since 1979.

    The information requested is as follows:

    Numbers
    197914
    198015
    198119
    198210
    198328
    198421
    Total107
    Of these some closures were technical closures such as the establishment of a primary school by the amalgamation of an infant and junior school which necessitated the closure of the infant and/or the junior school.

    Teachers

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many teachers were employed in (a) the primary and (b) the secondary sector in Wales in 1979–80; how many such posts exist in 1984–85; and what is his estimate of the primary and secondary teaching force in Wales in 1985–86.

    The number of teachers employed in 1979–80 is shown in table 10.01 of "Statistics of Education in Wales", No. 8, 1983, a copy of which is in the Library. Information in respect of 1984–85 is not yet available. The Government's expenditure plans, as outlined in Cmnd. 9143, assume that the number of full-time equivalent nursery, primary and secondary teachers will be 26,100 in 1985–86.

    Council Houses

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what has been the change in real terms of moneys spent or proposed to be spent on council house buildings, excluding receipts on sales, over the years 1979–80 to 1984–85.

    The latest local authority assessment of the 1984–85 capital expenditure on the housing revenue account is £46 million below the 1979–80 level.

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many council houses were constructed in 1979–80; how many were constructed in 1983–84; and what is the projected number of council house starts for 1984–85.

    Figures for public sector dwellings completed are:

    Local authorityNew town
    1979–803,098340
    1983–84*1,556138
    * Provisional.

    No reliable estimate of housing starts for 1984–85 is available.

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will list the annual amounts realised from council house sales for each year since 1979.

    The following table gives the net discounted selling price for council dwellings sold in the years 1979–80 to 1984–85.

    £ million
    1979–808·8
    1980–8112·1
    1981–8285·2
    1982–83111·0
    1983–84*62·1
    1984–8545·8
    * Provisional outturn.
    Local authority forecast.

    Local Authority Finance

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what has been the change in real terms of the total moneys allocated to local authorities in Wales over the period 1979–80 to 1983–84; and if he will provide separate figures for district and county authorities.

    We assume that the hon. Gentleman is concerned with central Government grants and subsidies to local authorities. These fell by £92 million between 1979–80 and 1983–84 (at 1983–84 prices). A separate comparison for county and district authorities is not possible because of the introduction of block grant in 1981–82.

    Rate Support Grant

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what percentage change, in cash and real terms is represented by the figures for rate support grant in Wales for 1984–85, projected in July 1984, as compared with the actual figures for 1979–80; and if he will provide separate figures for district and county authorities.

    A separate comparison for district and county authorities is not possible because of the introduction of block grant in 1981–82. The information available is as follows. The 1979–80 figures include second increase order and the 1984–85 figures are as at the first supplementary report.

    Rate support grant
    Percentage change 1979–80 to 1984–85
    Cash termsReal terms*
    Domestic element-45·2-64·0
    Other elements+44·6-5·0
    Total+37·5-9·6
    * Deflated to 1984–85 prices using the Gross Domestic Product Deflator.
    Domestic relief is paid to district authorities as a flat rate subsidy (36p in the $ 1979–80, 18½p in the £ 1984–85), to reduce the level of rates paid by the domestic ratepayer.
    Prior to 1981–82 the remainder of rate support grant consisted of a needs element and a resources element. From 1979–80, the needs element was distributed separately to districts and counties. Resources element was paid to districts only, but part was appropriated by the county via its precept. For 1984–85 the remainder of rate support grant consists of a separate Block Grant for each authority.

    Assisted Places Scheme

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what was the total level of expenditure on the assisted places scheme in Wales from central Government funds in 1982–83 and 1983–84; and what is the estimated level of expenditure for 1984–85.

    The expenditure in the financial years 1982–83 and 1983–84 was £275,000 and £455,000 respectively. The estimated cost for 1984–85 is £634,000.

    Council Houses (Asbestos)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what are the latest figures for the rate of implementation of the programmes to remove asbestos from council houses in Wales; and if he will make special financial provision from central Government funds to accelerate the programme.

    In many cases asbestos is best left alone if it is in a good and solid condition. It is up to each district council to decide on the appropriate action for dealing with asbestos in its housing stock and there is no central programme.

    Welsh Development Agency

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales how much funding the Welsh Development Agency has received (a) in total and (b) annually since 1979; and what is the change in real terms of the amount of cash given to the Welsh Development Agency between 1979–80 and the stated budgets for 1984–85.

    The Welsh Development Agency has received a total of £287·3 million in Government funds over the period 1979–80 to 1983–84 inclusive, made up as follows:

    £million
    1979–8047·6
    1980–8164·6
    1981–8276·0
    1982–8356·7
    1983–8442·4
    Adjusting for general inflation as measured by the 1982–83 GDP deflator, the agency's Supply Estimates provision for 1984–85 amounts to £42·5 million compared with a similarly adjusted figure for 1979–80 of £66·2 million. The reduction in resources over the last few years essentially reflects the completion of the agency's major capital programmes in the steel closure areas.

    Scotland

    National Health Service

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many people were employed in the National Health Service in Scotland at the latest date; what were the figures in June 1979; and if he will make a statement.

    At 30 September 1983, there were in whole-time equivalent terms 124,491 staff employed in the National Health Service in Scotland. The equivalent figure as at 30 September 1979 (June figures are not available) was 115,984. These statistics show that the number of staff in the Scottish Health Service has increased by 7·3 per cent. since this Government came to office.

    Doctors

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many doctors were employed in the National Health Service in Scotland at the latest date; what were the figures in June 1979; and if he will make a statement.

    At 30 September 1983, there were in whole-time equivalent terms 9,038 doctors, including general medical practitioners, engaged in the National Health Service in Scotland. The equivalent figure as at 30 September 1979 (June figures are not available) was 8,616. These statistics show that the number of doctors in the Scottish Health Service has increased by around 5 per cent. since this Government came to office.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many doctors were unemployed in Scotland at the latest available date; and what were the comparable figures for June 1979.

    At 30 September 1982, the number of registered unemployed in Scotland claiming medical qualifications (who would not necessarily all be seeking employment as doctors) was 106. The comparable figure for June 1979 was 35. Since analysis of the registered unemployed by occupation has been discontinued, information beyond 1982 from this source is not available to my Department. Information from other sources suggests that any unemployment experienced by doctors is of short duration and occurs mainly when moving from one stage of specialised training to another, but my Department is keeping a close watch on the position.

    Scottish Development Agency

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how much funding the Scottish Development Agency has received (a) in total and (b) annually since 1979; and what has been the change in real terms in the amount of money they are expected to receive in 1984–85 and the amount they received in 1979–80.

    Since 1979 the Scottish Development Agency has received Government funding as follows:

    £ million
    1979–8064·9
    1980–8179·9
    1981–8276·4
    1982–83101·5
    1983–8489·7
    *1984–8499·4
    Total511·8
    * Supply estimate.
    Adjusting for general inflation as measured by the GDP deflator at 1982–83 market prices, the agency's supply estimate provision for 1984–85 amounts to £90·7 million as compared with the similarly adjusted 1979–80 figure of £90·2 million.

    Mr George Beattie

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he will reply to the letter of 2 May about the conviction of George Beattie, from the right hon. Member for Clydesdale.

    I have discussed the matters raised in that letter with the right hon. Member and I shall write as soon as I have completed my inquiries into the various points which she has raised about this case.

    Private Residential Homes

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) what steps he is taking to cater for the needs of old people living in private residential homes which are forced to close; and if he will make a statement;(2) what plans he has to seek powers to control the number of private residential homes and the charges they impose for their services; and if he will make a statement;.(3) how many private residential homes have been closed down by local social services departments in Scotland during each of the past four years and in the first half of 1984; what reasons were given for these closures; and if he will make a statement;(4) how many complaints he has investigated concerning old people being ill-treated or defrauded in private residential homes in Scotland since June 1980; and if he will make a statement.

    Residents admitted privately would have to make their own arrangements in the event of closure but assistance might be sought from the regional or islands councils' social work department. I would expect the social work department to take a close interest in alternative arrangements for sponsored residents.Responsibility for registering private residential homes lies with the social work department; charges are a matter for the proprietor and the resident or his representative. My right hon. Friend has no plans to change those arrangements.Social work departments are not required to inform my Department if registrations are cancelled and information about closures is not held centrally.Allegations of ill-treatment or fraud would be for consideration by the social work department responsible for registering the home or for the police; no such complaints have been made to my right hon. Friend.

    Education Expenditure

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what has been the expenditure on education per pupil in each education authority in Scotland in the latest year; and what was the average figure for Scotland overall.

    The latest available information is shown in the following table:

    Expenditure per full-time equivalent pupil* 1982–83
    Regional/Islands council£
    Borders1,007
    Central1,018
    Dumfries and Galloway994
    Fife1,020
    Grampian1,074
    Highland1,013

    Regional/Islands council

    £

    Lothian1,080
    Strathclyde1,087
    Tayside1,041
    Orkney1,140
    Shetland1,459
    Western Isles1,196
    Scotland1,069

    * Nursery, primary, secondary and special school pupils.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what has been the expenditure on primary education per pupil in each education authority in Scotland in the latest available year; what is the Scottish average; and what were the corresponding figures for the two previous years.

    The information is shown in the following table:

    Net expenditure per pupil in primary schools (at out-turn prices)
    Regional/Islands council1980–811981–821982–83
    £££
    Borders710816886
    Central586688778
    Dumfries and Galloway609690781
    Fife654759793
    Grampian631740823
    Highland618700795
    Lothian686774780
    Strathclyde635757844
    Tayside586702772
    Orkney926980982
    Shetland7839511,126
    Western Isles755851932
    Scotland638750821

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what has been the amount spent on private education from Government sources in Scotland in the past three years; and if he will itemise the sources.

    I list as follows assistance provided by my Department for school pupils educated in the private sector.

    Fiscal years
    1981–821982–831983–84
    £000£000£000
    Grants to grant-aided secondary* schools (including St. Mary's music school)2,7592,4912,002
    Grants to grant-aided special schools3,1473,3703,390
    Assisted places grants5121,3932,225
    Aided places grants (St. Mary's music school)58
    * Maintenance Grant to St. Mary's music school ceased in 1983.

    Cash Limits

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what changes will be made to cash limits in 1984–85 which are within his responsibility.

    Class XV, vote 3: regional and general industrial support, Scotland

    Subject to parliamentary approval of the supplementary estimate the cash limit will be reduced by £2,338,000 to offset an increase on class XV, vote 5: selective assistance and compensation, Scotland.

    Class XV, vote 6: roads, transport and environmental services, Scotland

    Subject to parliamentary approval of the supplementary estimate the cash limit will be reduced by £65,000 to reflect the actual take up of increased provision allowed under the end-year flexibility scheme announced on 31 July 1984 at column 190.

    The new cash limits are summarised as follows:

    Present Cash Limit

    New Cash Limit

    £

    £

    Class XV
    Vote 3139,489,000137,151,000
    Vote 6149,896,000149,831,000

    These changes will not add to total planned public expenditure.

    Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

    Tristan Da Cunha

    90.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he has investigated the case for the generation of electricity by wind power on Tristan da Cunha; and if he will make a statement.

    Responsibility for the provision of electricity on Tristan da Cunha lies with the Island Council.

    Mr Varktes And Mrs Lilian Arakelians

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he is now able to convey his decision in respect of the application for a United Kingdom visa by a Mr. Varktes and Mrs. Lilian Arakelians, c/o 337 Ferdowsi Avenue, Tehran, following their interview at the British Interest Section of the Swedish embassy in Tehran on Tuesday 30 October.

    No, Mr. and Mrs. Arakelian visited the British Interests Section on 30 October 1984 and were given an appointment for a visa interview for 12 November. After the entry clearance officer has interviewed the applicants he will make a decision on the applications or refer them for further advice as appropriate.

    Council Of Europe (Refugees And Overpopulation)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether the Government will now take up full membership of the Council of Europe fund for national refugees and overpopulation; and if he will make a statement.

    The United Kingdom is not a member of the fund. We have no plans to join it.

    Disarmament Convention (Perugia)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on the third European nuclear disarmament convention held in Perugia in July 1984.

    This convention was, like its predecessors, critical of both NATO and the Warsaw Pact. Delegations from the official "peace committees" of several Warsaw pact countries were present for the first time, but a large number of representatives from unofficial peace and human rights groups in Eastern Europe were denied exit visas and were unable therefore to attend. Copies of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office's background brief, the "Third European Nuclear Disarmament Convention, Perugia, July 1984", produced in September 1984, are available in the Library.

    Foreign Compensation (Czechoslovakia)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how many claims have been lodged under the terms of the Foreign Compensation (Czechoslovakia) Order 1982; and how many have so far been dealt with by the Foreign Compensation Commission, indicating what proportions have been accepted and rejected.

    A total of 2,184 claims have been lodged with the Foreign Compensation Commission. The commission has so far dealt with 236 of these claims. Eighty-one claims for awards of compensation have been accepted and provisionally assessed. Seventy-five claims have been dismissed either summarily or provisionally. In 80 cases the claimants have withdrawn their claims.

    Helsinki Final Act

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement about Her Majesty's Government's policy concerning any steps taken in the past six months by the Soviet Union towards the implementation of the Helsinki Final Act.

    It is our policy to report to the House at six-monthly intervals on the implementation by the Soviet Union and other countries in eastern Europe of the provisions of the Helsinki Final Act. I last did so in the reply I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Upminster (Sir N. Bonsor) on 17 July at column 91. A further report will be submitted to the House early next year. Meanwhile, I regret to say that there have been no signs of improvement in the compliance by the Soviet Union with the provisions of the Final Act, especially in the human rights area.

    Gibraltar

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether the new agreement between Spain and the United Kingdom will give to any category of Spanish national right of access and ownership of property in Gibraltar which will not be available to Spanish nationals in other parts of the European Economic Community when Spain accedes to the treaty of Rome.

    No new agreement has been concluded between Spain and the United Kingdom. On Spain's accession to the EC, Spanish nationals will be entitled to enjoy throughout the Community—including Gibraltar—those rights provided for by the treaty of Rome, subject to any derogations and transitional periods that may be agreed between the Community and Spain.

    Nicaragua

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what is the nature and numbers of British diplomatic representation in Nicaragua.

    The following diplomatic staff are accredited to Nicaragua:—An ambassador and consul-general who resides at San José, a chargé d'affaires, who resides in Managua. In addition, a first secretary and third secretary resident in San Jose are accredited to Nicaragua and a defence attaché and assistant defence attaché who reside in Mexico.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what reports he has received and what conclusions he has reached concerning the nature and conduct of the recent elections in Nicaragua; and if representatives of Her Majesty's Government were offered any facilities for observation.

    My right hon. and learned Friend indicated to the House on 9 November the conclusion we reached concerning the recent elections in Nicaragua. We declined an invitation by the Supreme Electoral Commission of Nicaragua to send official observers. Her Majesty's ambassador during the normal exercise of his duties followed the election process and was afforded normal facilities.

    United Nations Law Of The Sea

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs (1) if he will make a statement on the policy of Her Majesty's Government towards the United Nations law of the sea outlining those sections with which Her Majesty's Government (a) agree and (b) disagree, and the reasons for their assessment;(2) if it is Her Majesty's Government's intention to sign and ratify the United Nations law of the sea convention.

    I refer the hon. Member to the reply given by my right hon. and learned Friend on 9 November to my hon. Friend the Member for Bedfordshire, North (Mr. Skeet) at column 41.

    Immigration

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether, during his forthcoming visit to the Indian sub-continent, he will be discussing the introduction of tape recording facilities for interviews carried out by entry clearance officers and immigration officers; and if he will make a statement.

    My right hon. and learned Friend has no present plans to visit the Indian sub-continent.I hope to visit Pakistan and Bangladesh early in the new year and will then give further consideration to the possibility of the tape recording of entry clearance interviews.

    World Festivals Of Youth And Students

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs why he sent the note issued in August by the cultural relations department of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office to the British Youth Council, regarding the World Festivals of Youth and Students.

    The letter that accompanied the note to which the hon. Member refers set out our reasons. The main consideration was that the British Youth Council's membership should know the background to the World Festivals of Youth and Students, which have a long history as international Communist propaganda events.

    Diplomatic Immunity

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what restrictions are placed by the United Kingdom on (a) the movements and (b) the normal privileges of foreign diplomats entitled to diplomatic immunity in Britain; and if he will give the foreign state concerned in each case.

    Diplomats of the Soviet Union—except the head of mission—Vietnam, Mongolia and China are required to obtain permission and to give at least two working days' notice before travelling more than 35 miles—25 miles for Soviet diplomats—from Hyde park corner.Limits are imposed, on a non-discriminatory basis, on the number of cars and the quantity of spirits and cigarettes which a diplomat may acquire duty-free.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will provide a breakdown of the figures given to the Foreign Affairs Committee on 20 June concerning offences alleged to have been committed by foreign diplomats in the United Kingdom over the last 10 years so as to show to which foreign state or group of state each belongs.

    No. It would be inappropriate to list the nationality of the alleged offenders since their guilt has not been established in court. Nor do I consider that it would be appropriate to indicate the regional group to which the alleged offenders belong.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on the progress made so far in formulating proposals for the reform of the law covering diplomatic immunity.

    My right hon. and learned Friend intends to make a statement to the House on this subject in due course.

    Diplomatic Bags

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs to what extent diplomatic bags on entry to the United Kingdom are subjected to scrutiny with the consent of the foreign state concerned.

    Scrutiny of incoming foreign diplomatic bags is confined to checking that they bear visible external marks of their character, in accordance with article 27.4 of the Vienna convention on diplomatic relations. We do not scan or X-ray incoming bags. The implications of changing this practice, which accords with that followed by virtually all other states, remain under review.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if the diplomatic representatives of the United Kingdom overseas are permitted to give consent to scrutiny of their diplomatic bags if requested.

    We would not permit such scrutiny to go beyond checking that the bags bear visible external marks of their character, in accordance with article 27·4 of the Vienna convention on diplomatic relations. We do not scan or X-ray incoming bags. The implications of changing this practice, which accords with that followed by virtually all other states, remain under review.

    London Docklands Development Corporation

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether the London Docklands Development Corporation will take steps to ensure that the Daily Telegraph uses water transport for the delivery of paper when it moves into its new site on the Isle of Dogs.

    The possibility of using water transport is being discussed by the Daily Telegraph and LDDC, but ultimately the method by which paper is delivered is a commercial matter for the Daily Telegraph to decide.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how much has been spent on infrastructure on each site that the London Docklands Development Corporation has acquired in the enterprise zone, site by site, on the Isle of Dogs.

    The cost of infrastructure works carried out by LDDC within the enterprise zone, primarily on new roads, drainage and main services, cannot be broken down among individual sites.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what price the London Docklands Development Corporation paid per acre for each site that it has acquired in the enterprise zone in the Isle of Dogs.

    Final settlement of terms for the bulk of the land acquired by LDDC in the enterprise zone is still the subject of negotiation and, in one case, a reference to the Lands Tribunal. To provide further information would prejudice these and future negotiations.

    Rate Support Grant (Computer Time)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish the estimated cost to his Department of computer time devoted to rate support grant, including targets and penalties, and rate limitation in each year from 1981–82 to 1985–86, most recent estimate; and what proportion was undertaken outside the United Kingdom.

    The estimated cost to this Department of computer time devoted to Rate Support Grant in each of the years 1981–82 and 1985–86 is as follows:

    Annual Expenditure including VAT
    £
    1981–82606,400
    1982–83615,200
    1983–84606,600
    1984–85*495,000
    1985–86576,000
    * Estimated outturn.
    Projected.
    All this expenditure is now incurred with computer bureaux based in the United Kingdom.

    Local Authorities (Expenditure Targets)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish the percentage of total national expenditure targets made up by the targets of (a) inner London boroughs, (b) outer London boroughs, (c) London precepting authorities, (d) metropolitan districts, (e) metropolitan counties, (f) non-metropolitan districts and (g) non-metropolitan counties in each year from 1981–82 to 1984–85.

    The information is as follows:

    Targets (per cent.)
    1981–821982–831983–841984–85
    Inner London boroughs3·554·604·544·58
    Outer London boroughs8·638·898·698·65
    London precepting authorities*6·436·196·716·74
    Metropolitan districts19·7420·8520·5020·41
    Metropolitan counties6·605·425·585·55
    Non·metropolitan districts6·527·457·307·31
    Non·metropolitan counties48·5346·6046·6846·76
    * Excluding the Metropolitan police.

    Block Grant

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish the total claims on block grant at original budget stage in each year from 1981–82 to 1984–85, showing for each year the percentage overclaim or underclaim.

    The information is as follows:

    £ million*Per cent.
    1981–828,653·5+3·6
    1982–838,756·0+0·9
    1983–848,665·0-0·7
    1984–858,560·2-0·6
    * over (+) or under (-) claim.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish the block grant paid in each year from 1981–82 to 1984–85 to each of the 18 authorities designated under the Rates Act 1984.

    The information is given in the table. The figures are the amount of block grant paid to the authorities in respect of the years shown. All figures are latest entitlements, after holdback. Those for 1981–82 are final entitlements; those for 1982–83 are based on outturn expenditure information; those for 1983–84 and 1984–85 are based on budgets.The figures for London Boroughs for 1981–82 include grant paid in respect of the Greater London council and the Metropolitan police; and those for 1982–83 include the Metropolitan police.

    £ million
    1981–821982–831983–841984–85
    Merseyside70·169·667·862·5
    South Yorkshire65·970·368·362·3
    Sheffield89·986·182·884·3
    ILEAnilnilnilnil

    1981–82

    1982–83

    1983–84

    1984–85

    GLC*126·1nilnil
    Camden12·97·8nilnil
    Greenwich29·227·422·721·4
    Hackney41·840·942·741·2
    Islington27·428·421·6nil
    Lambeth51·254·544·132·4
    Lewisham44·044·542·538·7
    Southwark43·137·432·513·7
    Brent51·856·651·550·3
    Haringey57·059·251·650·2
    Basildon3·53·02·0nil
    Portsmouth7·97·08·87·8
    Leicester9·78·18·39·7
    Thamesdown4·63·83·02·5

    * Grant paid to London boroughs.

    Urban Development Grants

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many projects to date are covered by urban development grants; how much public expenditure is involved in the current financial year; and how much is committed thereby in future years.

    My Department has so far given final approval to 102 projects for urban development grant. A further 30 projects have received offers of grant to which responses from local authorities remain outstanding. The estimated total costs of these 132 projects are more than £347 million. Of this some £280 million would be invested by the private sector and £67 million would be met by the urban development grant and other public funds, spread over several years.These figures do not include offers of urban development grant which have not been taken up.

    Archaeological Heritage (European Convention)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what consideration the Government are giving to the draft European convention on the archaeological heritage; and if he will make a statement.

    The European convention on the protection of the archaelogical heritage was ratified by the United Kingdom on 8 December 1972 and came into effect on 9 March 1973.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what consideration the Government are giving to the draft European convention on the underwater archaeological heritage; and if he will make a statement.

    I have been asked to reply.We are consulting interested groups in this country following the last meeting in March of the Council of Europe committee which is drafting this convention. The committee's mandate has been extended until 31 December 1985.

    Inner City Areas (Special Aid Programme)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will give an up-to-date breakdown of the organisations and projects which have benefited from the Government's special aid programme for inner city areas, since 1981.

    Of the 21,000 projects worth some £830 million supported under the urban programme since 1981, 66 per cent. were run by local authorities, 30 per cent. by voluntary organisations, and 4 per cent. by private organisations. By project type, 35 per cent. of the total number of projects were economic, 17 per cent. environmental and 48 per cent. social.

    Inner Urban Areas

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will extend to designated authorities under the Inner Urban Areas Act 1978 allocations for social schemes on the same basis as applies to partnership and programme authorities.

    No. It is the Government's policy to concentrate urban programme resources in the partnership and programme authority areas, as they have the greatest needs. Other designated districts do, however, have access to limited funding under the traditional urban programme to support social projects.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will extend to all authorities designated under the Inner Urban Areas Act 1978 disregard for all expenditure arising from the urban area scheme.

    My right hon. Friend will consider the representations he has received to that effect before final decisions are made on grant abatement for any year.

    Urban Programme

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what resources he is proposing to make available to the designated districts under the urban programme in 1984–85.

    Designated districts which are not partnership or programme authorities have been allocated £8 million for industrial and commercial projects in 1984–85. They will also receive about £10 million under the traditional urban programme.

    Council Properties (Sales)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment, of the 600,000 dwellings sold by local authorities and new towns in England from April 1979 to June 1984, how many were flats.

    Rate Support Grants

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what change he proposes to make in the cash limit for rate support grants, England, class XVIII, vote 1

    Subject to parliamentary approval of the necessary supplementary estimate, the cash limit for class XVIII, vote 1 will be increased by £21,000,000 from £8,848,000,000 to £8,869,000,000. Provision on this vote is not classified as public expenditure. This increase is required in order to reflect fully:

  • (a) the abatement of block grant in respect of 1984–85 by £452,000,000 authorised by the Rate Support Grant Supplementary Report (England) 1984–85 (approved by by the House on 18 July 1984);
  • (b) the increase by £45,000,000 in block grant payable in respect of 1982–83 authorised by the Rate Support Grant Supplementary Report (England) (No. 2) 1982–83 (approved by by the House on 18 July 1984);
  • (c) the recovery of £44,000,000 block grant in respect of 1983–84 authorised by the Rate Support Grant Supplementary Report (England) (No. 2) 1983–84 (approved by the House on 20 March 1984).
  • It also takes account of a further abatement of grant entitlement for 1984–85 of an estimated £3,000,000, in the light of an adjustment to the total budgeted expenditure figures received from local authorities. This is subject to the approval of another rate support grant supplementary report for 1984–85, which my right hon. Friend hopes to lay before the House in December.The cash limit reduction which my right hon. Friend announced on 14 June 1984 anticipated an overall reduction in grant payable in 1984–85 of £475,000,000 from £9,323,000,000 to £8,848,000,000.

    Housing Starts

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what was the number of public sector housing starts in each year from 1978 onwards and the estimated total starts for 1984; and what has been the reduction in percentage terms between the number of such starts in 1978 and in 1983.

    The figures for England from 1978, including provisional statistics for January to September 1984, appear in table 2 of the Department's monthly housing statistics press notice (No. 484) published on 1 November: a copy is in the library.Public sector housing starts were 56 per cent. lower in 1983 than in 1978.The Department has made no estimates for the whole of 1984.

    Public Sector Housing

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what representations he has received in the last two years from local authorities, housing associations, and voluntary organisations expressing concern over the housing shortage and urging the need for a greater supply of public sector housing; and if he will name the organisations and place a copy of their letters in the Library.

    The information requested is not readily available and could be provided only at disproportionate cost.

    United Nations Environment Programme

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what participation his Department will have, in the coming year, in the United Nations environment programme.

    The United Kingdom hopes to be re-elected during the current General Assembly to the governing council of the United Nations environment programme (UNEP). My Department is responsible for co-ordinating the Government's participation in the work of UNEP arid will lead the delegation to the Governing Council in May 1985. We will also continue to give our support to individual activities within the programme.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is his Department's current involvement with the United Nations environment programme human settlements (habitat) project.

    The Department was represented at the last meeting of the United Nations commission on human settlements (habitat) in May of this year by an official observer. It is anticipated that an observer will attend the next meeting of the commission next May.

    Housing Defects Act 1984

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when further information is to be published on the scheme of assistance for private owners of prefabricated reinforced concrete houses under the Housing Defects Act 1984.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list those orders which have been made under the Housing Defects Act 1984 and those orders which he intends to make in the next six months.

    My right hon. Friends the Secretaries of State for the Environment, for Scotland and for Wales have made the Housing Defects Act 1984 (Commencement) Order 1984 which brings the Act, with the exception of section 28, into effect in Great Britain on 1 December 1984.My right hon. Friends the Secretaries of State for the Environment and for Wales, by virtue of the Housing Defects (Prefabricated Reinforced Concrete Dwellings) (England and Wales) Designations 1984, made on 1 November 1984, have designated for the purposes of the scheme of assistance the following classes of building, as defined in the Designations:

    • Airey
    • Boot
    • Cornish Unit
    • Dorran
    • Dyke
    • Gregory
    • Myton
    • Newland
    • Orlit
    • Parkinson
    • Reema Hollow Panel
    • Schindler and Hawksley SGS
    • Stent
    • Stonecrete
    • Tarran
    • Underdown
    • Unity and Butterley
    • Waller
    • Wates
    • Wessex
    • Winget
    • Woolaway

    The Hamish Cross and Stour types of dwelling are to be designated shortly.

    My right hon. Friends the Secretaries of State for the Environment, Scotland and Wales have laid before the House an order under paragraph 2 of schedule 1 to the Act setting an expenditure limit, for the purpose of calculating the amount of reinstatement grant payable in each case, of £14,000 for all types of defective dwelling under the Act.

    Owners of dwellings which are defective dwellings for the purposes of the Act will, from 1 December, be able to apply to their local housing authority for assistance under the Act. Owners will have 11) years from 1 December 1984 within which to apply for assistance. The Designations provide that the "cut off date" (ie, the date by which an owner must normally have bought his dwelling in order to be eligible for assistance under the Act) is to be 26 April 1984 for all types of prefabricated reinforced concrete house, except the Airey type, for which the "cut off date" is to be 8 September 1982.

    A circular is being sent today to all local housing authorities in England and Wales about the Act and the scheme of assistance for owners of prefabricated reinforced concrete houses. I understand that a circular will be issued to local housing authorities in Scotland shortly.

    The Department's discussions with the Building Societies Association and National House-Building Council about arrangements intended to enable building societies to lend with confidence on the security of repaired prefabricated reinforced concrete houses are continuing as a matter of urgency and I hope to be able to make a further announcement about them shortly.

    Lee Valley Park

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what arrangements will be made for the financing and membership of the Lee Valley regional park authority in the event of the Greater London council being abolished.

    After considering responses to the consultation paper on future arrangements for the Lee Valley regional park, I have decided that in the event of the GLC abolition, Greater London's share of the costs of the park should be split between the 32 boroughs and the City of London by way of a per capita levy, with the six riparian London boroughs (Enfield, Hackney, Haringey, Newham, Tower Hamlets and Waltham Forest), which already appoint one member each to the authority, making a double per capita contribution. I have also decided that the eight members of the authority at present appointed by the GLC should be replaced by eight members appointed by the 26 non-riparian boroughs and the City acting jointly. These changes to the Lee Valley Regional Park Act 1966 would be contained in an order laid before Parliament under powers to be included in the Local Government Bill to be introduced shortly.I am concerned that the present statutory arrangements for the park, under which Greater London contributes 80 per cent. of the precept, even though only 36 per cent. of the park's area lies within the Greater London boundary, may not reflect a proper balance. Although fundamental changes would not be appropriate in the context of GLC abolition, I intend in due course to invite the various bodies concerned to consider whether legislation to change those arrangements should be promoted.

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    Subsidies And Purchases

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will list the individuals and companies in the United Kingdom which have obtained a subsidy for crushing oilseed rape;(2) whether he will give a list of the individuals and companies in the United Kingdom which have purchased butter from intervention;

    (3) whether he will give a list of the individuals and companies in the United Kingdom which have purchased butter oil from intervention.

    No. It would be a breach of confidence to provide information on transactions between individuals or companies and the Intervention Board.

    Straw Burning

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what steps the Government propose to take to amend the present model byelaws governing straw and stubble burning so as to include oil seed rape.

    My right hon. and learned Friend the Home Secretary and I propose shortly to consult the local authority associations and other interested organisations on a separate scheme of model byelaws to regulate the burning of residues of oil seed rape and certain other crops. It is our intention that these byelaws should be available to local authorities in time for next year's burning season.

    Hens' Eggs

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if it is his policy that the proposed amended regulations relating to the labelling of hens' eggs should require the declaration of methods of production.

    Council Regulation (EEC) No. 1831/84 of 19 June 1984 provides for the optional declaration of method of production on retail packs. But such declarations may only make use of terms that have yet to be set out in a Commission regulation. My Department, in close consultation with the interests concerned, is seeking to play a constructive role in the discussions on the Commission regulation.

    Milk (Direct Sales)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what volume of direct sales quota has been applied for in the United Kingdom; and how the total volume of valid claims compares with the official statistics for direct sales in the year from April 1983 to 31 March 1984 and in the calendar year 1981.

    I regret that the volume of direct sales quota applied for in the United Kingdom is not yet available. A final figure will not be known until all applications for primary and for secondary quota have been considered, and the dairy produce quota tribunals has heard all appeals against awards of secondary quota made by local panels.Statistics show that levels of recorded direct sales in the years in question were:

    • 1981 calendar year 326·3 million litres
    • 1983–84 marketing year 338.78 million litres

    This reflects direct sales of producer processors, producer retailers farmhouse cheesemakers; farmhouse butter, certain cheeses, and cream are not reported.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what steps have been taken by Her Majesty's Government to check the authenticity of claims for direct sales quotas.

    All producers who declared that they were engaged in direct sales on 2 April this year will, prima facie, be eligible for registration and entitled to quota allocations. The dairy produce quotas regulations provide heavy penalties for making false or reckless statements to secure an allocation of quota, and Ministers may, following conviction for such offences, in addition, reduce quotas.As part of normal administrative procedures, officials of my Department will be checking any inconsistencies found between details given in direct sellers' applications and existing information normally available to the Department.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how the total volume of valid direct sales claims compares with the national direct sales quota.

    I regret that it is not yet possible to assess the final figure of direct sales primary and secondary quota against the United Kingdom total quota allocation of 386·5 million litres, or 398,000 tonnes. The applications are still being processed.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the size of the national direct sales reserve; and what proportion of this volume arises from the surrender of direct sales quota by producers who have ceased direct selling.

    The dairy produce quotas regulations 1984 provide that a direct sales reserve may be created from any quota not allocated to producers, and by such quota as may be given up by direct sellers.Until all special case claims have been settled it is not possible to give direct sellers their final quota allocations and determine whether there is any unallocated quota to be placed in the reserve. Firm undertakings are now being received from producers who have applied and have been invited to give up direct sales quota under the outgoers' scheme which will provide the second element in the creation of a reserve.

    Wholesale Milk Deliveries

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, what was the average percentage trend in wholesale milk deliveries between in determining the regional or provisional regional wholesale quotas published in the London Gazette on 25 July.

    I regret that there is a typographical error in the Order Paper which means that I am unable to understand the question. I shall reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible after it is corrected.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what was the average percentage trend in wholesale milk deliveries between 1981 and 1983 in the United Kingdom; and what was the percentage trend in wholesale deliveries between 1981 and 1983 in each of the nine regions of the United Kingdom.

    Between 1981 and 1983, wholesale milk deliveries in the United Kingdom increased by 9·14 per cent. For the same period the increase in England and Wales was 7·9 per cent. In Scotland, the increase was 11·63 per cent. In Northern Ireland the increase was 19·53 per cent. Detailed figures are not immediately available for the other regions and I hope to provide them shortly.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food on what mathematical basis the trend sin wholesale milk deliveries were taken into account in determining the percentage reductions on 1983 wholesale deliveries in each of the nine regions of the United Kingdom.

    I refer the hon. Member to the evidence of my right hon. Friend to the House Agriculture Committee on 4 July 1984.

    Milk (Volume)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what proportions of the volumes claimed relate to direct usage for pasteurised milk, untreated milk and for milk products.

    The applications for direct sales quota are still being processed. While it is too early to give information requested, direct sellers have only been asked to provide details of liquid whole milk, skimmed milk, and semi-skimmed milk as well as of butter, cream or cheese sales in their base years.

    Dairy Farms (Milk Quotas)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the minimum period for which part or the whole of a dairy farm, with its appropriate proportion of the farm's milk quota, can be leased or rented to a third party, and then, at the termination of that lease, recovered by the lessor or landlord with its milk quota still intact.

    The dairy produce quotas regulations (DI 1984/1047) specify no minimum period for a lease of the whole or part of a dairy holding with quota. However no quota is tranferred when a "minor change of occupation" takes place. A "minor change of occupation" is defined in the regulations as:

  • (a) the area occupation of which changes is less than—
  • (i) in respect of a holding in Northern Ireland, three quarters of the area of the holding as previously constituted (and also no larger than 40 hectares), and
  • (ii) in respect of a holding elsewhere, one quarter of the area of the remainder of the holding (and also no larger than 5 hectares), and
  • (b) the interest of the occupier who moves into that part of that holding is a tenancy or less than a tenancy and has a duration of less than one year—"
  • Poultry (Hygiene)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if, in discussions in the Council of Ministers on regulations governing the hygiene of poultry and the fees payable therefor, he will seek to harmonise standards before harmonising fees.

    I agree with the objective stated by the hon. Member. However, if this is not immediately attainable, we are prepared to consider proposals on charging if these will help to remove distortions in competition between the poultrymeat industries of the Community.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will list the bodies by which objections have been made to the Government's interpretation of the regulations governing poultrymeat hygiene; and if he will list the substance of such objections.

    Since the Poulty Meat (Hygiene) Regulations were made in 1976 the Government have discussed the interpretation of a number of aspects of the regulations with interested bodies, especially the British Poultry Federation. A complete list of issues covered is not readily available.

    Milk Quotas

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the amount of milk quota already purchased by Government from the buy-out scheme in each of the areas of the United Kingdom.

    No milk quota has yet been purchased. The closing date for the return of the claim forms from the first tranche of producers who have been offered the chance to participate in the outgoers' scheme has only just passed.

    Expenditure

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement concerning planned expenditure for agriculture, fisheries and food, in 1985 to 1986.

    As announced in the Chancellor's statement today, planned expenditure on agriculture, fisheries and food in 1985–86 will be £2249 million. This represents a net increase in support for the industries of £103 million over what was previously planned. Within this total, provision is made for additional expenditure of £189 million by the Intervention Board for Agricultural Produce, mainly to finance the expected increase in intervention for cereals, partly offset by reduced expenditure of £58 million by the three Agriculture Departments on schemes pre-funded by the Community. The net increase in expenditure funded by the European Community amounts to £131 million.The other expenditure in 1985–86 for which my agriculture colleagues and I are responsible, shows a net reduction of £36 million —4·2 per cent. of domestic expenditure and 1·7 per cent. of total expenditure on agriculture fisheries and food. Our main concern had been, taking account of changing circumstances and developments in the European Community, to ensure that the resources available for these programmes within total planned public expenditure are deployed in ways which will best serve the changing needs of the industry. In this connection, the future role of ADAS has recently been reviewed by the Director General and his report will be published tomorrow.We shall be reducing expenditure under the capital grants schemes by about £40 million in 1985–86. The details will be given in orders which I shall shortly lay before Parliament. The changes in the schemes are designed to pave the way for the new measures which we expect to introduce in 1985 to implement a new EC

    £'000
    ClassVoteDepartmentOriginal cash limitIncrease due to outgoers schemeOther changesRevised cash limit
    III2IBAP19,481*60020,141
    III4MAFF143,5456,249*-660149,134
    XV2DAFS61,235775†-262,008
    XVI5WO48,9791,260‡-2,48247,757
    NID1Northern Ireland Departments║2,059·5║1·7║¶1·3║2,062·5

    structures regulation. They will take account of particular needs in the livestock sector and will further advance my intention to secure a better balance in these policies between agriculture and conservation. We shall also be making a reduction of £12 million in assistance for arterial drainage and flood protection. We intend to provide continued support for hill farming through livestock compensatory allowances extended to the newly designated areas and I shall be announcing the 1985 rates shortly. There will also be provision for the continuation of the enhanced rate of suckler cow subsidy I announced last April and for payments to producers under the milk outgoers's scheme, amounting together to some £20 million. The net outcome for domestic expenditure I refer to above takes account of these commitments and further adjustments.

    Outgoers' Scheme

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will give details of the £50 million expenditure to be made available for the milk supplementary levy (outgoers) scheme which he announced on 25 May; what adjustments are being made to cash limits to accommodate this expenditure; and whether any other change in cash limits is being proposed for the departmental votes for which he has responsibility.

    Payments under the milk supplementary levy (outgoers) scheme to producers discontinuing milk production for sale will be made in five equal annual instalments. Annual expenditure of £10 million will be distributed as follows:

    £6,249,000 to the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food to meet expenditure arising in England;
    £775,000 to the Department of Agriculture and Fisheries for Scotland;
    £1,260,000 to the Welsh Office;
    £1,716,000 to the Department of Agriculture for Northern Ireland.
    Parliamentary approval for the first year's payments in England, Wales and Scotland will be sought in the winter Supplementary Estimates. For Northern Ireland, parliamentary approval will be sought in their autumn Supplementary Estimates. It is proposed to bring a Bill before the House shortly to give statutory effect to the scheme.In addition to these changes, a winter Supplementary Estimate will also be presented for additional administrative expenditure by the Intervention Board for Agricultural Produce on class III vote 2. This will seek provision to cover the additional work load arising from this year's CAP price fixing settlement, the record cereals harvest and the need for inspection facilities under the beef premium scheme. The increase will be offset by a transfer from class III, vote 4.The consequent changes to cash limits are as follows:

    * Offsetting changes, as described above.

    †Savings made following the abolition of National Insurance Surcharge.

    ‡The reduction results from savings on the Welsh Development Agency's grant in aid (—£2,500,000) required to offset additional expenditure on Selective Financial Assistance in class XVI, vote 3. It also incorporates the cost of dairy produce quota local panels (+£125,000), the surrender of excess appropriations in aid (—£90,000) and savings made following the abolition of national insurance surcharge (—£17,000).

    ║Figures for Northern Ireland are rounded to the nearest £0·1 million.

    ¶Details of the funding of part of the increased cost to the NHS of recent pay awards are given by the Chief Secretary in a written answer of today's date.

    Cash limit increases not offset by reductions are being charged to the Reserve.

    Social Services

    Company Directors (National Insurance)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he has completed his examination of personal liability of directors for national insurance contribution debts for their companies.

    I have examined carefully the special power contained in section 152(4) of the Social Security Act 1975, under which directors can become personally liable for the national insurance contribution debts of their company if they knew or should have known that the contributions were not being paid.This power is not conferred on other revenue-collecting Departments. It has been criticised on the grounds that its use can result in exceptionally harsh personal financial penalties in certain circumstances; and that it may be a disincentive to directors to strive to save their companies, or may discourage the appointment of new directors where this might be in the interests of a company in difficulties.I have decided that the use of section 152(4) is no longer justified and I intend to repeal it as soon as a suitable opportunity arises. This will bring my Department's powers into line with those of other revenue-collecting Departments, and it is my intention to keep in step with them in future.From the date of this announcement, I propose to take no further action in any case in which my Department is currently involved.

    Blind Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many registered blind people there were in the United Kingdom in 1983.

    As at 31 March 1982, the latest date for which information is centrally available for the United Kingdom as a whole, the total number of registered blind people was as follows:—

    Number
    England111,729
    Wales7,861
    Scotland11,259
    United Kingdom130,849

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will estimate the number of blind people who will receive less than they otherwise would have done in the November uprating of benefits because of the increase in the available scale margin; and if he will estimate the total saving to the Exchequer resulting from this.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many blind people will become subject to the £1 available scale margin reduction from their additional allowances under the supplementary benefit regulations on 26 November; what savings will result; and if he will make a statement.

    The available scale margin does not apply to the blindness addition or the age addition, nor does it affect those blind people who are in receipt of the short-term rate of supplementary benefit including those claiming as unemployed. For blind people on the long-term scale rate, the effect will vary according to the nature and extent of any payment they receive for additional requirements. I will write to the hon. Members with further information as soon as possible.

    "Fares To Hospital"

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what steps are being taken to distribute the leaflet, "Fares to Hospital", in rural areas.

    The leaflet "Fares to Hospital" is widely distributed to health authorities and family practitioner committees for issue to hospitals and general practitioners' surgeries in both rural and urban areas. It is also available in local DHSS offices and in many citizens' advice bureaux.

    Supplementary Benefit

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will now extend the long-term rate of supplementary benefit to the unemployed; and if he will make a statement.

    The necessary resources of about £500 million are not available to implement this proposal, which in any case raises wider questions about the supplementary benefit scheme more properly considered in the current social security review.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what change is to be made after the uprating on 26 November in the amount that is deemed to be paid by a trade union to its members on strike in the course of a dispute, which is then deducted from any supplementary benefit paid to such families.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the proposals for increased surveillance and fraud investigation of supplementary benefit claimants who use postal applications to claim benefit.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he expects to receive the report of the Social Security Advisory Committee on the Supplementary Benefit (Single Payments) Regulations 1984, regarding single payments for furniture; and when it will be published.

    I understand that the Social Security Advisory Committee expects to finalise its report to my right hon. Friend on the Supplementary Benefit (Single Payments) Regulations 1984 regarding single payments for furniture before the end of the year. The report is required under the Social Security Act 1980 to be laid before Parliament, but decisions on the timing of publication will be taken when my right hon. Friend has considered his response which will be published with the report.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many extra supplementary benefit recipients in receipt of additional allowances will become subject to the £1 available scale margin reduction as a consequence of the change in the regulations on 26 November; what savings will result; and if he will make a statement.

    I refer the hon. Member to the replies given by my hon. Friend the Member for Brent, North (Dr. Boyson) to the hon. Member for Pontypridd (Mr. John) on 21 June at columns 242–3.

    Child Benefit

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will now phase out the disparities in child benefit rates between war widows and other widows by bringing them up to the higher level for both and make suitable transitional arrangements.

    The rates of child benefit are the same for all. I assume the hon. Member has in mind the child dependency additions paid to widowed mothers and other long-term beneficiaries. We have no plans to raise these to the preferential rate paid to war widows.

    National Council For Care Of Elderly Dependants

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what changes in Government funding have occurred in 1984–85 and are planned for 1985–86 for the National Council for Care of Elderly Dependants; and if he will make a statement.

    We are currently considering an application from the council for a grant of £20,000 this year. We expect to reach a decision very soon.

    Nhs (Manpower)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many people were employed in the National Health Service in England and Wales at the latest date; what were the corresponding figures for June 1979; and if he will make a statement.

    The total number of NHS directly employed staff in England at 31 March 1984 (the latest date for which an overall total is available) was 819,100 (whole-time equivalent). Figures are not available for June 1979, since quarterly staffing returns had not been introduced at that time. The corresponding figure for September 1979 was 773,300. Details of the figures are in the Library.Statistics on the NHS in Wales are the responsibility of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Wales.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many people were employed by the Mersey regional health authority at the latest date; what was the corresponding figure for June 1979; and if he will make a statement.

    The total number of NHS directly employed staff in Mersey RHA at 31 March 1984 (the latest date for which an overall total is available) was 43,900 (whole time equivalents). No figures are available for June 1979 since quarterly staffing returns had not been introduced at that time. The corresponding figure for September 1979 (which was the annual collection date) was 43,300.

    Notes:

  • 1. The figures quoted include agency nursing staff and locum medical and dental staff. They exclude hospital practitioners, part-time medical officers (clinical assistants), general medical practitioners participating in hospital staff funds and occasional sessional staff in community health services.
  • 2. The latest date for which a count of total NHS staff in England is available is March 1984, since information on medical and dental staff is not collected quarterly.
  • Depo Provera

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if, in the light of the findings of the United States Food and Drugs Administration, he will review the continued use of Depo Provera; and if he will make a statement.

    Mobility Allowance

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what representations he has received concerning repayment of mobility allowance wrongly withdrawn in the light of the Commissioner's decision R (M) 2/82; what reply he has sent; and if he will make a further statement.

    I expect to be in a position to reply soon to a letter from the Royal Association for Disability and Rehabilitation on this matter and I will also write to the right hon. Member.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) for each of the past five years how many applicants who were claiming mobility allowance succeeded in their claim on their first application;(2) how many claims for mobility allowance have been made for each of the past five years;(3) in each of the past five years how many claims for mobility allowance in England and Wales have been made by or on behalf of physically handicapped people;(4) over each of the past five years what was the average time required for each stage of a mobility allowance claim (physically and mentally handicapped) to be processed;(5) how many applicants who claimed for mobility allowance did not appeal after an initial refusal during each of the past five years;(6) how many applicants succeeded in their claims for a mobility allowance after an appeal to the medical board in each of the last five years;(7) how many applicants succeeded in their claims for a mobility allowance after an appeal to the medical appeal tribunal over each of the past five years;

    (8) what guidance is given to the doctors who make assessments for mobility allowance;

    (9) what proportion of applications for mobility allowance are successful, broken down by city or region in each of the last five years;

    (10) how many claims for mobility allowance have been made by or on behalf of mentally handicapped people for each of the past five years.

    Mental Health Act Commission

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) whether he has been able to assess the value of the work of the north-west region Mental Health Act commission following its first year of operation;(2) if it is his intention to centralise the secretariat of the Mental Health Act commission;(3) whether he proposes to change the existing adminstrative arrangements for the Mental Health Act commission regarding the maintenance of an adequately staffed regional office in the north-west;(4) whether he will consider extending the role of the Mental Health Act commission to include the investigation of complaints from informal patients, particularly those who are effectively detained though still informal and those who complain about alleged coercive or restrictive practices.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what special hospitals are covered by the north-west region of the Mental Health Act commission.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what proportion of the annual budget of the Mental Health Act commission is expended on section 58 second opinion medical fees.

    Expenditure on second opinion medical fees is currently running at about 14 per cent. of the commission's annual budget.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the preparation of the code of practice by the Mental Health Act commission; and when he intends to publish it.

    Housing Benefit

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many people received a rate rebate through standard or certified housing benefit in the last full year for which figures are available.

    It is estimated that in autumn 1983, the latest date for which information is available, there were 3,070,000 certificated cases and 3,660,000 standard cases receiving rate rebates.

    Doctors

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many doctors were unemployed in England and Wales at the latest available date; and what were the corresponding figures for June 1979.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many doctors were employed in the National Health Service in England and Wales at the latest date; what were the figures for June 1979; and if he will make a statement.

    At 30 September 1983, the latest available date, there were some 43,400* doctors directly employed in the NHS in England. This includes locums but excludes hospital practitioners and doctors with paragraph 94 appointments, most of whom were general practitioners employed on a part-time basis :to the hospital service. A comparable figure for 30 September 1979 is 40,300 but figures for June 1979 are not available. In addition there were some 25,300 general medical practitioners providing services under contract to the NHS in England on 1 October 1983, and 23,100 on the same date in 1979.Statistics on the NHS in Wales are the responsibility of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Wales.

    *All figures rounded to the nearest 10.

    Health Authorities (Appointments)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list those bodies and organisations he has consulted with regard to appointments to each of the regional health authorities.

    We always consider recommendations for appointments which reach us from any source and in particular from many hon. Members on both sides of the House. Many individuals put themselves forward as candidates and some of these prove suitable for appointment. However, in accordance with the National Health Service Act 1977 we have also consulted the relevant local authorities, universities, representatives of the main health professions, federations of workers organisations, other appropriate local interested or voluntary bodies and the regional health authority itself. The following national bodies or organisations have also been consulted.

    • Association of Independent Hospitals
    • Association of Nurse Administrators
    • Association of Optical Practitioners
    • British Dental Association
    • British Homoeopathic Association
    • British Medical Association
    • British Red Cross
    • Commission for Racial Equality
    • Confederation of British Industry
    • Confederation of Health Service Employees
    • Conservative and Unionist Party
    • Faculty of Anaesthetists
    • Faculty of Community Medicine of the Royal College of Physicians
    • Faculty of Dental Surgery
    • Faculty of Homoeopathy
    • Faculty of Ophthalmologists
    • Health Visitors Association
    • Homoeopathic Trust
    • Independent Hospital Group Ltd.
    • Institute of Directors
    • Institute of Personnel Management
    • Labour Party
    • Liberal Party Organisation
    • Management Administrative and Technical Supervisory Association
    • Managerial, Professional and Staff Liaison Group
    • National Association for Mental Health
    • National and Local Government Officers Association
    • National Joint Committee of Working Women's Organisations
    • National Society for Mentally Handicapped Children
    • National Union of Public Employees
    • Overseas Doctors Association
    • Patients Association
    • Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain
    • Registered Nursing Homes Association
    • Royal College of General Practitioners
    • Royal College of Midwives
    • Royal College of Nursing
    • Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists
    • Royal College of Pathologists
    • Royal College of Psychiatrists
    • Royal College of Radiologists
    • Royal College of Surgeons
    • St. John's Ambulance Association
    • Trades Union Congress
    • Women's Royal Voluntary Service

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many chairmen and members of district and regional health authorities have sent letters of resignation to him, citing as their reason dissatisfaction with Government policies, particularly with regard to privatisation.

    A few letters of resignation have included parting messages about particular concerns. We welcome constructive critical comment from health authority chairmen and members on any occasion including even their resignations.

    Community Health Councils: Expenditure
    £'000
    Region1979–801980–811981–821982–83*1983–84
    Northern339377400448476
    Yorkshire284354393434450
    Trent316385402414435
    East Anglian141175187215240
    North-West Thames387492542570582
    North-East Thames375445504536525
    South-East Thames283359398422423
    South-West Thames294345395391413
    Wessex175225234249265
    Oxford168204210257264
    South Western272326346375440
    West Midlands409520574627667
    Mersey230274301318320
    North Western358453482531599
    ENGLAND TOTAL4,0314,9345,3685,7876,099
    Overall average expenditure per council202431
    * Provisional figures.

    Children (Growth)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what action he intends to take following his Department's national study, "Current Social Factors and the Growth of Pre-School Children", about height in one and two year-old children of the long-term unemployed; and if he will make a statement.

    Retrolental Fibroplasia

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the current incidence of retrolental fibroplasia amongst newborn babies whose birth was premature; and how this compares with past trends.

    Details of the incidence and past trends of retrolental fibroplasia cannot be identified accurately from the statistical information collected centrally. I will write to the hon. Member.

    Community Health Councils

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he is considering any proposals to change the numbers of community health council members or the ways in which they are appointed.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what has been the amount of funding by each regional health authority for community health councils for each of the past five years; and what has been the overall average allocation to community health councils for each of the past five years.

    We do not collect information centrally on the funds allocated by regional health authorities to community health councils. Actual expenditure by the councils, as recorded in the annual accounts submitted by health authorities to the Department, is shown in the table. It is not possible to give an average figure for 1981–82 and 1982–83, as the number of councils changed during those years because of NHS restructuring.

    A survey of pre-school children, undertaken for the Department and the Scottish Home and Health Department by the department of human nutrition at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, has examined possible associations between a number of biological and social variables, including unemployment, and the attained height of one and two year old children. The researchers state that no causal relationship can be claimed between any particular variable and attained height. A synopsis of the findings is due to be published next year as part of the third report on nutritional surveillance from the chief medical officer's committee on medical aspects of food policy.

    Mortality Levels

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what action he intends to take following the results of the Office of Population Censuses and Surveys longitudinal study about mortality levels in unemployed men and their wives; and if he will make a statement.

    As stated in a reply given on 31 October at column 1085, this study was carried out by a research team based at the City university, as part of a programme of work financed by the Medical Research Council to analyse data compiled by the Office of Population Censuses and Surveys.I understand that a paper presenting some results from the study is to be published in a few weeks' time, in a medical journal. Ministers will carefully consider the findings once they have been published.

    Disabled Persons (Discrimination)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many cases of alleged discrimination against disabled people have been received by his Department since 18 November 1983; what was the nature of the investigations undertaken into these cases; what was the outcome of these investigations; and if he will make a statement.

    Since 18 November 1983, eight cases have been referred with sufficient evidence for us to investigate. In one case we are still awaiting confirmation that the individual concerned wished inquiries to be made on her behalf. In the remaining seven cases officials have made inquiries and sought the comments of the other parties involved. Three cases are still under consideration. Of the four concluded cases:

    • — one involved a genuine problem of access;
    • — one concerned an employer's judgment that the complainant's disability rendered her unsuitable for the appointment in question on safety grounds;
    • — one concerned the general rules of membership of a trade federation which are applicable to all candidates;
    • — one concerned a management judgment that an employee's overall performance, even after taking account of the limitation imposed by disability, was inadequate for promotion purposes.
    In my judgment none of these cases revealed evidence of unjustified discrimination.

    Coal Industry Dispute

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services in view of the fact that no strike pay has been paid to members of the National Union of Mineworkers during the coal mining dispute, if he will now direct his Department's branches to pay the £15 per week that has been denied them since March.

    The deduction of £15 from any supplementary benefit payable for the dependants of a person involved in a trade dispute is required by section 6 of the Social Security (No. 2) Act 1980. The intention is that the taxpayer should not have to bear the full cost of supporting strikers' families; either strikers themselves or their union should make some provision to maintain dependants. The deduction does not therefore depend upon payment of strike pay, nor is strike pay deemed to be in payment.

    Brown asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what conditions laid down by his Department miners and the families of miners engaged in industrial dispute must satisfy in order to receive exemptions from prescription charges.

    The conditions of eligibility for free prescriptions are the same for strikers as for any other persons or families. These are age (children up to 16 or pensioners), certain specified illness and war disabilities, expectant and nursing mothers, and low income.

    Departmental Staff (Retirements)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether any staff of his Department at or above the level of assistant secretary have retired early; and whether any such staff have since been re-engaged either permanently or to carry out a specific task.

    Specialist Claims Control

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish the results of his investigation into the methods for calculating savings from the work of specialist claims control.

    Cancer Patients (Prescription Charges)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Social Services if he will list the circumstances under which exemptions from prescription charges for those suffering from cancer can be obtained.

    Exemption from prescription charges is available to people in the following groups, all of which may include individuals suffering from cancer:

  • 1. Children under 16.
  • 2. Men aged 65 or over and women aged 60 or over.
  • 3. Pregnant women or women who have had a baby within the preceding 12 months.
  • 4. People who get supplementary benefit, family income supplement or housing benefit supplement, their partners and dependants.
  • 5. War or service pensioners (for items for their accepted disablement only).
  • 6. People who qualify on low income grounds, their partners and dependants.
  • 7. People who have—
  • i. a permanent fistula (including caecostomy. colostomy, laryngostomy or ileostomy) requiring continuous surgical dressing or an appliance;
  • ii. one of the following disorders for which specific substitution therapy :s essential:
    • Addison's disease and other forms of hypoadrenalism,
    • diabetes insipidus and other forms of hypopituitarism,
    • diabetes mellitus,
    • hypoparathyroidism,
    • myasthenia gravis,
  • myxoedema;
  • iii. epilepsy requiring continuous anti-convulsive therapy;
  • iv. a continuing physical disability which prevents the patient from leaving his residence without the help of another person.
  • Nhs (Charges)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what he expects the total income from Health Service charges to be in 1984–85; and if he will estimate the income for 1985–86, assuming (a) no increases and (b) 12·5 per cent. increases;(2) what is the proportion of Health Service expenditure covered by charges in 1984–85; and if he will estimate the proportion for 1985–86, assuming

    (a) no increases and (b) 12·5 per cent. increases.

    The estimated total income from health service charges in 1984–85 is about £425 million. This represents approximately 3 per cent. of total Health Service expenditure. The estimates requested for 1985–86 are not available.

    Prescription Charges

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will estimate how many persons over 16 years, and under pensionable age, are liable to pay prescription charges; and if he will estimate this as a percentage of the population in these age groups.

    People in the age ranges specified may qualify for exemption if:

    • they are in receipt of supplementary benefit, family income supplement or housing benefit supplement or are the partner or dependant of someone who is; or
    • they qualify on low income grounds or are the partner or dependant of someone who does; or
    • they are pregnant or have had a baby within the preceding 12 months; or
    • they are war pensioners (where the exemption covers items prescribed for the accepted disablement only); or
    • they suffer from a medical condition included in a limited list of conditions leading to exemption.
    In addition, contraceptive substances and appliances are supplied without charge.There is no reliable way of estimating the proportion of the population which might at any given time be entitled to exemption under these arrangements.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the real increase in prescription charges after allowing for inflation in the years 1979 to 1984 for each category of Health Service charges.

    Health Authorities (Regional Strategic Plans)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he has advised regional health authorities as to the reasonable time to be allowed for public consultation on a regional strategic plan.

    Broadmoor Hospital

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the redevelopment of Broadmoor hospital, Berkshire.

    Broadmoor hospital is being completely redeveloped on its existing site. Following completion of certain advance works, construction of the first stage of the redevelopment of Broadmoor hospital started in February 1984. This stage, which comprises a new ward block, medical centre, central kitchen and stores, administration offices and gatehouse, is due for completion in Autumn 1986. Design work is proceeding on the second stage, which consists of two further ward blocks and an occupations/education complex. Construction is planned to start shortly after work on the first stage is completed. Further stages are planned to follow leading to completion of the new hospital in about 1997.

    Defence

    Western European Union

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on Government policy following the Rome declaration on the future of the Western European Union.

    I have been asked to reply.I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to the hon. Member for Walthamstow (Mr. Deakins) on 31 October, when I said that we have been working actively with our partners in the Western European Union to find ways of making better use of the organisation. We fully support the declaration and the document outlining institutional improvements which were agreed by Foreign and Defence Ministers at their meeting in Rome on 27 October and welcome their decision to meet regularly together within the WEU framework.None of the measures which are to be taken to revitalise the WEU is intended to duplicate or undermine the Atlantic Alliance, which remains the foundation of our security. The activities of WEU can, however, help to bring about a stronger and more cohesive contribution to NATO from its members and increase public understanding of the European defence role within the alliance.

    Ministry Of Defence Stores (Fire Protection)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if it is his intention that automatic sprinkler protection will be incorporated in new and existing Ministry of Defence stores, containing exceptionally valuable and combustible items.

    Armed Services Youth Training Scheme

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether there are any plans to allow women to be offered places in the Army's armed services youth training scheme.

    I am pleased to say that the Army is now able to offer places to young women as well as to young men and 50 places are being offered on training courses starting in February and March next year for training as supply controllers, drivers, switchboard operators, postal and courier operators, and kennelmaids and grooms.This brings the Army into line with the Royal Navy and Royal Air Force which already offer places to young women in the armed services youth training scheme.

    United States Forces (Exercises)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether United States forces in the United Kingdom have taken part in exercises in accordance with the joint United States Army-United States air force memorandum of understanding entitled, "Efforts for Enhancement of Joint Employment of the Airland Battle Doctrine," agreed on 21 April 1983.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether units of the United States air force based in Britain require formal agreement from his Department before conducting national exercises.

    Not normally.

    NameCompanyCharter Dates
    SS UgandaP&O3 January 198327 April 1985
    MV Ice LarkSea Lion6 February 19836 February 1986
    MV SkeldergateTurnbull Scott25 January 198424 January 1985
    MV LumiereCunard1 March 198431 August 1985
    MV IrishmanUnited Towing1 March 198315 April 1985
    MV Oil MarinerOcean Inchcape16 April 198328 February 1985
    MV Scottish EagleCayzer Irving5 January 19845 July 1985
    MV Maersk HarrierMaersk London5 December 198330 June 1985
    MV British TamarBP Shipping1 April 198431 December 1984
    MV St AngusGardners30 April 198429 April 1985
    Costs paid to the owner of a chartered vessel are a commercially confidential matter between the Ministry of Defence and the owner concerned.

    Boarding School Allowance Scheme

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the procedure by which a child educated under the boarding school allowance scheme for the children of Her Majesty's forces can move to another school than that orignally selected; and if he will specify what the implications of such a move are for receipt of the boarding school allowance.

    Payment of boarding school allowance is normally conditional upon a child continuing to attend the school for which it was first authorised. The allowance regulations recognise that changes of school are necessary on completion of a stage of education, that is primary or secondary. Other changes of school may continue to attract payment of the allowance in certain circumstances, for example, ill-health, significant increase of school fees or significant alteration of a school's curriculum or standards. Cases which fail to satisfy these criteria are referred to the Ministry of Defence for decision and may

    Nato (Nuclear Planning Group)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will make a statement on any agreements reached at the recent meeting of NATO's nuclear planning group.

    A summary of the NATO nuclear planning group meeting at Stresa on 11–12 October 1984 is contained in the final communiqu?, a copy of which is in the Library.

    Falkland Islands

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many service personnel are on their second, third or any subsequent tour in the Falklands; how many of them (a) are in receipt of the Falklands allowance and (b) are not; and if he will consider changing the rules relating to the payment of the allowances payable after a certain number of days in the Falklands in that or any subsequent tour.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many ships are on hire to Her Majesty's Government for work in the Falklands; and what is the cost, term and company concerned of each contract.

    There are currently 10 ships on charter for work in the Falklands. They are as follows:result in forfeiture of future entitlement to the allowance and/or refund in part or whole of the allowance already paid for that stage of education. Each case is however considered on its merits; subject of course to compliance with the regulations.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will list the number of children of Her Majesty's forces educated under the boarding school allowance scheme who changed school from that originally selected in each of the last 10 years; and whether he will list the schools involved under the heading used by his Department to record the reasons for such moves.

    Some 21,500 children of service parents are educated under the boarding school allowance scheme but the Ministry of Defence does not maintain records of changes of school and the number of children affected. This information could only be obtained at disproportionate cost. The majority of changes of school arise on completion of a stage of education that is, cessation of primary schooling and commencement of the secondary stage. Other changes that arise are considered separately on their merits but the numbers involved are a small proportion of the whole.

    Service Personnel (Schoolchildren)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how a decision is made on the suitability of a school for children of service personnel whose fees are paid in part or in full by Her Majesty's services; and what arrangements are made to ensure the continuing suitability of any such school.

    The onus for deciding which school a service man's child should attend rests firmly on the parent. Among the factors that he should consider are that the school chosen is within his means, that it can provide continuity of education for a stage of education ie primary/secondary and that satisfactory arrangement exist for the child's welfare wherever he might be serving. He can obtain advice and assistance in making the choice from his local education officer who will usually recommend that he visits the chosen school before his child is entered. However the school chosen must be registered with the appropriate United Kingdom Department of Education and additionally the school authority or local education authority must manage, control and wholly maintain the facilities for the board and accommodation of the child.Records are maintained of boarding schools attended by children of service parents and schools are visited periodically by officers of the Service Childrens Education Authority. Any cases of dissatisfaction with a particular school registered by individual parents are investigated by SCEA who may refer the matter to the appropriate United Kingdom Department of education.

    School Fees

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will describe the arrangements by which Her Majesty's forces pay school fees for children being educated in the United Kingdom, indicating the number of schools and the number of children involved in such arrangements in each of the last 10 years.

    The payment of school fees in respect of service men's children attending boarding schools in the United Kingdom is the responsibility of the parent. To assist in payment of those fees, boarding school allowance, within the approved limits is paid to the parent in advance separately for each school term on production of the requisite school bill. In the majority of cases, the allowance payable does not cover the full cost of the school fees.A recent survey of boarding schools established that some 21,500 children of service parents attended approximately 800 different schools. Similar records are not maintained for previous years and this information could only be obtained at disproportionate cost.

    Raf Trainer

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if, in the selection of a new trainer for the Royal Air Force, he will beware of claims for unproven aircraft; and if he will make a statement.

    We have received four tenders for a new RAF trainer and they will all be the subject of a very thorough technical and financial evaluation before a final selection is made.

    asked the the Secretary of State for Defence when he will be making a decision for the replacement for the Jet Provost for Royal Air Force training.

    Follow-On Force Attack

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he supports the adoption of the follow-on force attack concept by NATO.

    Yes, we support the adoption of the follow-on force attack concept by NATO for the reasons given in my answer to the hon. Lady on 29 October 1984 at col. 856–57, and in my speech in the House on 31 October 1984 at col. 1384–88.

    Airland Battle Doctrine

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he has made representations to the United States Government asking them to withdraw the airland battle doctrine from their European commands.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence in what way the United States airland battle doctrine is incompatible with NATO doctrine.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether the airland battle doctrine has been discussed by NATO ambassadors in the defence planning committee.

    Warrior Preparation Centre

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether any British officer has taken part in exercises at the United States European command Warrior Preparation Centre.

    Pershing Ii

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether the description by the United States Army of its Pershing II missile as a weapon for fire support is a description used by NATO.

    Pershing II is not regarded by NATO as a fire support weapon in the normal NATO usage of that term.

    Nato Defence Ministers (Meeting)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence when and where is the next meeting of North Atlantic Treaty Organisation Defence Ministers.

    NATO's Defence Planning Committee will next meet in ministerial session in Brussels in December.

    Procurement Contracts

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the percentage of procurement contracts placed by his Department directly with firms employing up to 200 employees in the last 12 months or other convenient period; and if he will break down this percentage between sea, land, air and general support functions.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the answer given by my hon. Friend the Member for Pendle (Mr. Lee) to my hon. Friend the Member for Elmet (Mr. Batiste) on 24 May at columns 552–53. The exercise currently in hand regarding the percentage of direct contracts placed with smaller firms covers the year to 31 March 1985. The results will not be available until the middle of next year.

    Ministry Of Defence Police

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what are the duties of the Ministry of Defence police; to whom the chief constable of the Ministry of Defence police reports; and what complaints procedure exists for matters relating to the actions of this force.

    It is the duty of the Ministry of Defence Police to protect and police Ministry of Defence establishments and to protect Crown property. The chief constable reports to the second permanent under-secretary of state. In common with other police forces in England and Wales the Ministry of Defence police are subject to the complaints procedure which was established by the Police Act 1976.

    Services Medical Organisation (Equipment)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will place in the Library a copy of the catalogue of medical equipment used within the Services Medical Organisation.

    The "British Joint Services Catalogue of Medical Equipment" is a classified internal Ministry of Defence document. For this reason it would not be appropriate to place a copy in the House of Commons Library.

    Drugs (Prescribing And Dispensing)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) if he will estimate the potential savings to be made from the generic prescribing and dispensing of drugs in the armed services;(2) if it is his policy to promote generic prescribing and dispensing of drugs in the armed services.

    It has long been Ministry of Defence policy to insist on generic dispensing of drugs, whatever the prescription, when a generic equivalent of the item prescribed exists. The Ministry of Defence therefore, already achieves the full economies of generic dispensing and there are consequently no further potential savings in this respect.

    Switzerland (Purchases)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what military purchases have been made from the United Kingdom by Switzerland since 1954.

    Substantial purchases have been made, but it has been the practice of successive Administrations not to publicise details of individual defence sales contracts.

    Hms Conqueror (Log Book)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the rank of the most senior officer known to have seen the log book of HMS Conqueror after it left the ship.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what are the terms of reference of the court of inquiry into the loss of the log book of HMS Conqueror; and by when and to whom it is to report.

    The board of inquiry is to inquire into the circumstances attending the apparent disappearance of Conqueror's control room log. It will report to the Commander in Chief Fleet when it has reached its findings.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence when the loss of the navigator's log book of HMS Conqueror was first discovered; and by whom the loss was notified.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence when was the loss of the log book from HMS Conqueror first discovered; and by whom.

    The first indications that the control room log could be missing appeared in the first week of October when an official in my Department asked to see it in the context of answering parliamentary inquiries.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will call in the Metropolitan Police to investigate the loss of the log book from HMS Conqueror.

    The disappearance of HMS Conqueror's log is being investigated by a Royal Navy board of inquiry. Until its report is available, no consideration can be given as to whether the Metropolitan police should be involved.

    Nuclear Submarines (Log Books)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the security classification of the navigator's log book on nuclear submarines.

    Once entries have been made in the control room log kept by the navigating officer of a nuclear submarine this document is classified confidential.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will place a copy of a navigator's log book of a nuclear submarine in the Library for inspection by hon. Members.

    I have placed a copy of an uncompleted control room log for a submarine in the House of Commons Library.

    Fh 70 Ammunition

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he has received any representations from the Government of the Federal Republic of Germany regarding possible later delivery by that Government of FH 70 ammunition.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether, under the 1970 three country arrangement between the United Kingdom, the Federal Republic of Germany and Italy, the Federal Republic of Germany has now successfully manufactured the FH 70 shell.

    West Germany (Shell-Filling Capacity)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what financial contribution Her Majesty's Government are making toward the cost of the Federal Republic of Germany's shell-filling facility.

    120 F/S Shot

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence when he expects to place an order for 120 F/S shot.

    Fighting Ships (Log Books)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many log books of fighting ships of the Royal Navy have been lost since May 1979; and if he will publish in the Official Report a list of the ships concerned and the date when the log books were reported missing.

    I am arranging for a check to be made that no log books have been mislaid, apart from those from HMS Conqueror which I reported to the House on Wednesday 7 November. I will write to the hon. Member when the check is complete. No log books have been reported missing.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether navigator's log books of fighting ships of the Royal Navy are always classified documents.

    Once entries have been made in submarine log books these books are classified. Navigation log books for surface ships are unclassified.