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Volume 69: debated on Friday 7 December 1984

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Written Answers To Questions

Friday 7 December 1984

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Milk

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he is satisfied with the arrangements made within the European Economic Community for enforcement of the dairy quota scheme.

16.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is satisfied that the European Commission will be able to enforce collection of superlevy on milk production in excess of quota in all member states.

I have repeatedly stressed in the Council of Agriculture Ministers that I regard it as a matter of the highest importance that the milk supplementary levy system should be properly applied and enforced throughout the Community. The Commission has said it is ready to take legal action against any member state which does not apply the system or does not apply it properly. I shall continue to insist that the arrangements must be respected and that the Commission takes its responsibilities.

22.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will make a statement on the operation of milk quotas to date.

34.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement on the operation of the milk quota system.

In order to ensure that claims for second quota and exceptional hardship applications can be dealt with as quickly and as fairly as possible, I am trebling the membership of the diary produce quota tribunal. I am continuing to press in Brussels for, greater flexibility between direct sales and wholesale quota. Some 3,270 producers have now been invited to participate in the outgoers scheme. Quota given up by outgoers will be reallocated in due course to small producers and to exceptional hardship cases.

35.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he is satisfied with the implementation by the Italian Government of the Community measures on dairy quotas.

Italy has conducted a census of milk producers in order to obtain the necessary information for implementing dairy quotas and has also announced an outgoers' scheme. Italy is not required by EC regulations to make a levy collection till the end of the marketing year. I shall continue to press for every member state to apply the levy according to the rules agreed and welcome the Commission's assurances that it will take legal steps against any member state failing to do so.

38.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what further representations he has received about the implementation of milk quotas in the European Community; and if he will make a statement.

I have received many representations from milk producers and others who are anxious to ensure that the milk supplementary levy system is implemented fairly throughout the Community. I have repeatedly stressed, in the Agriculture Council and elsewhere, that I regard this matter as one of the greatest importance. The Commission has said that it intends to open infringement proceedings against any member state which does not apply the system or does not apply it properly. I shall continue to insist that the Commission fully takes its responsibilities in this.

Departmental Publications

13.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will explain the reasons for the delay in issuing his Department's new publication Civil Defence and the Farmer (0 11 241233 5) which was shown on list No. 7, 1984, by Her Majesty's Stationery Office on 17 February.

The listing of this publication by Her Majesty's Stationery Office on 17 February was premature. No definite date can yet be given for its publication because the text is still subject to amendment on a number of points including the results of the Home Office review of the blast and radiation effects of a nuclear attack.

26.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will change the name of his new publication from "Home Defence and the Farmer" to "Civil Defence and the Farmer".

44.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he expects to complete his review of his publication, "Home Defence and the Farmer".

The review of this publication is now virtually complete but awaits further information on certain outstanding matters including the results of the Home Office review of the blast and radiation effects of a nuclear attack.

Veterinary Inspection Centres

14.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what conclusions he has reached on the current review of veterinary inspection centres; and if he will make a statement.

The study report on the Ministry's veterinary investigation service is still under consideration in my Department and no conclusions have yet been reached. There will be full opportunity for consultations with outside interests.

Land Use

15.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if any annual estimate is made in his Department of the extent of the change of land use in the countryside from natural habitat to more productive agricultural use.

Most land in this country which has not been developed for non-agricultural use or afforested is already in productive agricultural use.

Sheep Producers (National Aids)

17.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what discussions he has had about the French Government's intention to introduce national aids for their sheep producers.

None. We are not aware that the French Government intend to introduce such aids.

Departmental Budget

18.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he plans any further changes in his Department's budget following the Chancellor's Autumn Statement.

The changes in planned expenditure for 1985–86 were set out in the statement I gave on 12 November in reply to my hon. Friend, the Member for Wealden (Sir Geoffrey Johnson Smith), as supplemented by my statement of 29 November concerning the payment of hill livestock compensatory allowances. The expenditure plans for 1986–87 and 1987–88 will be published in the new year when I also plan to make a further statement about agricultural R & D.

Imported Eggs

19.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he is satisfied that the regulations regarding imported egg consignments ensure that substandard eggs do not have access to the market.

Yes. I can confirm that the regulations are as effective as is reasonably practicable.

Cereal Surpluses

20.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what plans he has for dealing with cereal surpluses arising from over production in the United Kingdom.

This is a Community matter which must be tackled by the Community as a whole. The Government will continue to argue for a clear and long term policy of cereals price restraint.

Farm Wardens

21.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will consider delegating authority for the appointment and training of farm wardens to local authorities in consultation with the National Farmers Union.

No. Farm wardens would provide the link between farmers and the Ministry's wartime organisation and their selection and training is a matter for my Department.

40.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food who will provide the training of his farm wardens when they are appointed.

Farm wardens will be trained by the appropriate local officers of my Department.

Potatoes (Surplus Crop)

23.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what action is being taken to help the Potato Marketing Board deal with the current season's surplus crop.

The Government have authorised the implementation of market support arrangements based on a stockfeed programme and will be sharing the disposal costs with the Potato Marketing Board.

Rationing

24.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will release more information about rationing when the new consolidated circular is issued.

The information on food rationing in wartime to be included in the consolidated circular will be decided following consideration of comments on the draft circulated earlier this year which is at present the subject of discussion with those concerned.

Nuclear Attack (Protection)

25.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what advice he can give to farmers wishing to learn how to protect their livestock and crops in the event of a nuclear attack.

Advice on this matter will be given when my Department publishes a revised version of the booklet "Home Defence and the Farmer".

Local Agricultural Control Organisation Manual

27.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether his updated local agricultural control organisation manual has been produced and distributed throughout his Department.

Cereal Exports

28.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement on the provision of British credit guarantees for cereal exports.

My right hon. Friend the Minister for Trade announced on 3 December a number of improvements in the provision by Export Credits Guarantee Department of credit guarantees for the export of grain and malt. I welcome these changes, which should contribute to the United Kingdom's increasingly successful export performance.

"Food And Agricultural Controls In War"

29.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he hopes to issue the revised circular ES1/1979 "Food and Agricultural Controls in War".

A final version will be issued as part of the Home Office consolidated circular on civil defence on completion of the consultations with local authorities about the draft of that circular issued for comment in July this year.

Chemical Weapons (Crops And Livestock)

30.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will include in his revised edition of "Home Defence and the Farmer" information on the effect of chemical weapons on crops and livestock.

No. The Government are a party to the 1972 convention banning biological weapons. We are playing a leading part at the conference on disarmament at Geneva to achieve a comprehensive verifiable ban on the production, stockpiling and use of chemical weapons. We will keep the House informed of progress.

Racing Pigeons (Vaccination)

31.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many racing pigeons have been vaccinated against paramyxovirus II; and what information he has as to the average cost per bird.

Vaccine sales suggest that well over 2·5 million racing pigeons have been vaccinated against paramyxovirus 1 which is the strain of the virus which has affected pigeons. The cost of vaccination is about 36p to 40p per bird.

Ec (Surplus Butter)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if Her Majesty's Government will seek authority from the European Economic Community for further sales of cheap surplus butter in 1985.

Stocks of surplus butter have built up because the Community has set support prices at levels which encourage production and discourage consumption. The freeze in the target price for milk and the introduction of quotas agreed at the 1984 CAP price fixing were important steps towards securing a better balance in the market and so avoiding the need for special disposal measures. Special short term sales of butter on the Community market tend to disrupt normal supplies, force fresh butter into intervention stocks and are costly to the Community budget. We opposed the present scheme and would not favour its repetition later in 1985.

Less-Favoured Areas

33.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement on the present state of hill farming in less-favoured areas.

We are satisfied that the present level of support to farmers in the less-favoured areas is proving highly effective in maintaining the long-term viability of hill farms whilst at the same time stemming the decline in rural population. Our policy in this regard will be greatly assisted by the extension to the United Kingdom's less-favoured areas which we achieved earlier this year. This has paved the way for the Government to provide to upland farms for the first time both higher rates of capital grants and headage payments on cattle and sheep. The proposed new structures measures, currently being discussed in the Community will, if agreed in their present form, make possible the continuation of Community support for hill farming largely unchanged.

North Sea Herring

36.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what progress has been made in agreeing shares of North sea herring between Norway and the European Community.

I would refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave this afternoon to my hon. Friend the Member for Banff and Buchan (Mr. McQuarrie).

Soil Survey

37.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what are his plans for future funding of the Soil Survey of England and Wales.

I am unable to add anything to the reply I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Dorset, West (Mr. Spicer) on 26 November 1984 at column 406.

"Advice To The Farmer"

39.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement on the proposals in "Advice to the Fanner" produced by North Yorkshire county council, a copy of which has been sent to him.

These background reference notes contain soundly based advice to farmers, much of it taken from an American publication, on how to protect their farms against radioactive fallout.

Departmental Emergency Plans

41.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will consider the downgrading of the security classification of his Department's emergency plans.

No. My Department's emergency plans already bear the lowest security classification appropriate to their contents.

Agricultural Development And Advisory Service (Report)

42.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he next expects to meet the president of the National Farmers Union to discuss the recommendations in Professor Bell's report on the Agricultural Development and Advisory Service.

I have no plans at present to discuss formally the recommendations contained in Professor Bell's report with the president of the National Farmers Union. However, I regularly meet the president of the National Farmers Union to discuss general agricultural matters and that gives us the opportunity to discuss the report. I have invited all interested parties to let us have their views on the contents of the report by 4 January 1985.

Farm Animal Welfare Council (Codes Of Practice)

43.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what progress is being made by the Farm Animal Welfare Council on the revision of the codes of practice.

The council has completed its revisions of the welfare codes. Revised codes for cattle and pigs were published in 1983. As regards the poultry codes, I refer to the reply given on 22 November at c. 247 to my hon. Friend the Member for Hereford (Mr. Shepherd).

Agricultural Training Board

45.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what provision Her Majesty's Government are making to help the work of the Agricultural Training Board.

The Agricultural Training Board receives considerable financial and practical assistance from my Department. Provision has been made for a grant-in-aid to the board of £7·65 million in the current financial year and the Agricultural Development and Advisory Service gives assistance on training matters at both national and local level. The Manpower Services Commission also makes a contribution towards specific projects undertaken by the board and training groups.

Horses And Ponies (Welfare)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement on the measures he takes to secure the welfare of horses and ponies.

The Protection of Animals Acts 1911 to 1964 provide the main welfare protection for horses and ponies for which my right hon. and learned Friend the Home Secretary is responsible. When they are on agricultural land, equines are protected by part I of the Agriculture (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1968 which is the responsibility of the Agriculture Ministers. As for the welfare of equines in transit, protection is provided by the Transit of Animals (Road and Rail) Order 1975 which is enforced by the local authorities. In 1979, Agriculture Ministers issued a code of practice for the guidance of operators of horse, pony and donkey markets, sales and fairs.

Council Of Agriculture Ministers

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement on the outcome of the meeting of the Council of Agriculture Ministers held in Brussels on 3 and 4 December.

Together with my right hon. and noble Friend the Minister of State, Scottish Office, and my hon. Friend the Minister of State in my Department, I represented the United Kingdom at the meeting of the Council of Fisheries Ministers on 4 December.The Council agreed guide prices for fishery products for 1985 on the basis of a compromise proposal by the Presidency, which was generally satisfactory from the United Kingdom point of view.It was agreed that the prohibition on fishing for mackerel to the west of Scotland north of 58°N from 1 to 31 December 1984 should be lifted, an accordance with the latest scientific advice. This decision was a very important one for our pelagic fleet as most of the mackerel catches off the west coast are still being taken north of 58°. This means that this fishery will be able to continue, within the United Kingdom quota of 234,700 tonnes, for the rest of the year. There was also general agreement to postpone the deadline for a decision on an increase in the minimum mesh size in the English Channel until 1 July 1987 but we reservezd our position pending completion of Parliamentary scrutiny procedures.The council approved the arrangements for 1985 negotiated with Sweden under the EC/Sweden framework agreement. There were also informal discussions on the continuing negotiations between the Community and Norway on the arrangements for 1985 under the EC/Norway agreement. I urged the Commission to stand firm on the question of Norway's allocation of North sea herring next year and this was agreed. In a discussion of the continuing negotiations between the Community and the Faroe islands, we emphasised the importance we attached to a reduction in the Faroes intercepting fishery on Atlantic salmon.The council discussed the problem raised by overfishing by some member states of the Community's allocation of saithe in the North sea. An increase in the Community availability was adopted on a basis agreed with Norway which will allow three member states to continue or to resume fishing. The United Kingdom received an additional quota of about 400 tonnes. I asked the Commission to report to the Council in due course on the results of the year's activities of its Inspectorate of Inspectorates in supervising the enforcement of Community rules by the member states. It undertook to do so. I also asked the Commission to prepare a report to the Council on the general question of overfishing of quotas and any appropriate arrangements for compensation by the member states responsible. This was generally welcomed and could be very important in encouraging greater discipline in future.There was a discussion of the supply and demand situation within the Community for herring on the basis of a report by the Commission and it was agreed in principle to open a small additional tariff-free quota for the period 1 January to 15 February 1985 for the purposes of manufacturers of specialised products.

Animal Experiments

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what experiments will be carried out on animals to test the safety and efficacy of new and existing products as proposed in the Government's Food and Environment Protection Bill; what species of animals will be used; and if he will make a statement.

No final decision has been taken on the type of tests that may be required but they are likely to be broadly similar to the guidelines laid down in the pesticides safety precautions scheme.

Grants And Subsidies (Expenditure)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will give details of expenditure in 1983–84 and 1984–85 by the agricultural departments on agricultural grants and subsidies, excluding market regulation, under the common agricultural policy.

Details are given of the outturn for 1983–84 and the latest forecast of outturn for 1984–85:

Outturn 1983–84Latest forecastof outturn 1984–85
£ million£ million
Price Guarantees
Wool0·6-4·3
Potatoes9·30·4
9·9-3·9
Support for capital and other improvements
Agriculture and Horticulture Development Scheme104·194·8
Guidance Premiums4·03·6
Farm Accounts1·41·1
Farm Structure0·50·5
Northern Ireland Agricultural Development Programme9·613·6
Agriculture and Horticulture Grant Scheme96·284·1
Co-operation Grants3·85·1
Others1·02·3
220·6220·6205·1
Support for agriculture in special areas
Hill Livestock Compensatory Allowances91·597·4
Additional benefit to farmers in special areas under AHDS,NIADP and AHGS26·430·8
Others5·69·0
123·5137·2
Other payments
Milk Outgoers Scheme10·0
GRAND TOTAL354·0348·4
Some of this expenditure attracts contributions from the European Agricultural Guidance and Guarantee Fund. These are mainly received in the following year. In 1984–85 £52·6 million is expected to be received from the Fund compared with £67·4 million in 1983–84.

Public Expenditure Note Annual Review Of Agriculture 1985

Table I: Public expenditure under the CAP and on national grants and subsidies by the intervention board for agricultural produce and the agricultural departments* †M

1983–84 (Actual)

1984–85 (Forecast)

£ million

£ million

I Market Regulation under the CAP1,374·51,424·1
II Price Guarantees9·9-3·9
III Support for Capital and Other Improvements220·6205·1
IV Support for Agriculture in Special Areas123·5137·2
V Other Payments10·0
GRAND TOTAL1,728·51,772·5
Receipts from EAGGF
Guarantee Section1,127·61,082·0
Guidance Section72·757·7
TOTAL1,200·31,139·7

* Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, Department of Agriculture and Fisheries for Scotland and the Welsh Office. Expenditure in Northern Ireland, borne on the Northern Ireland Consolidated Fund,

is excluded apart from that on the Milk Outgoers Scheme.

† The figures in tables I, II and III may not add up to the totals shown due to roundings.

Table II

Market regulation under the cap

£ million

Expenditure*

EAGGF contributions†

1983–84 (Actual)

1984–85 (Forecast)

1983–84 (Actual)

1984–85 (Forecast)

(I) Expenditure by the Intervention Board for Agricultural Produce

Cereals120·8357·8207·9194·4
Beef and Veal263·9322·5176·0215·7
Pigmeat-14·8-10·1-14·8-10·1
Sugar53·263·153·263·1
Processed products28·332·928·332·9
Milk products561·3333·0319·6280·5
Oilseeds87·254·687·254·6
Sheepmeat158·3123·1158·3123·1
Eggs0·30·20·30·2
Poultry and Meat0·10·20·10·2
Fruit and Vegetables2·12·02·12·0
Hops1·00·91·00·9
Herbage seeds3·33·03·33·0
Others14·222·918·523·7
Total1,279·21,306·11,041·0984·2

(II) Expenditure by the Agriculture Departments

Milk Non-marketing Premiums13·312·713·312·7
Suckler Cow Premium Scheme15·727·812·312·7
Annual Premium on Ewes66·377·566·377·5
Total95·3118·091·9102·9
Grand Total1,374·51,424·1‡1, 132·9‡1,087·1

* Includes net monetary Compensatory Amounts of -£9·2 million in 1983–84 and £10·2 million in 1984–85

† Contributions are from the Guarantee Section of EAGGF except that 40 per cent, in respect of milk non-marketing premiums which comes from the Guidance Section.
‡ In 1983·84 £1,127·6 million from Guarantee Section and £5·3 million from Guidance Section: £1,082·0 and £5·1 million respectively in 1984–85

Table III

Other expenditure by the agricultural departments*

£ million

1983–84 (Actual)

1984–85 (Forecast)

Price Guarantees

Wool0·6-4·3
Potatoes9·30·4
Total9·9-3·9

Support for Capital and Other Improvements

Agriculture and Horticulture Development Scheme104·194·8
Guidance Premiums4·03·6
Farm Accounts1·41·1
Farm Structure0·50·5
Northern Ireland Agricultural Development Programme9·613·6
Agriculture and Horticulture Grant Scheme96·284·1
Co·operation grants3·85·1
Others1·02·3
Total220·6205·1

Support for Agriculture in Special Areas

Hill livestock compensatory allowances91·597·4
Additional benefit under AHDS, NIADP and AHGS26·430·8
Others5·69·0

1983–84 (Actual)

1984–85 (Forecast)

Total123·5137·2

Other payments

Milk Outgoers Scheme10·0
Grant Total354·0348·4
Contributions from the guidance section of EAGGF67·452·6

* Excludes expenditure on Brucellosis eradication incentives (£1·9 million in 1983–84 and £0·8 million in 1984–85) and on horticultural protected crops adaptation aid (0·6 million in 1983–84).

Market Regulation (Expenditure)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will provide details of expenditure in 1983–84 and 1984–85 by the Intervention Board for Agricultural Produce and the agricultural departments on market regulation under the common agricultural policy.

Details are given of the outturn for 1983–84 and the latest forecast of outturn for 1984–85:

Outturn 1983–84Latest forecast of outturn 1984–85
£ million£ million
(i) Expenditure by the Intervention Board for Agricultural Produce
Cereals120·8357·8
Beef and Veal263·9322·5
Pigmeat-14·8-10·1
Sugar53·263·1
Processed Products28·332·9
Milk Products561·3333·0
Oil Seeds87·254·6
Sheepmeat158·3123·1
Others21·029·2
1,279·21,306·1
(ii) Expenditure by the Agricultural Departments
ProductStock levelDateCost to Community of holding stocks in 1984*
'000 tonnesmillion ECU
Public intervention
Butter1,02615 November 1984323
Skimmed Milk Powder81615 November 1984132
Wheat5,97522 November 1984297
Barley1,50622 November 1984
Rye33722 November 1984
Durum83722 November 1984
Beef54731 October 1984203
Olive Oil8331 October 198448
Oilseeds2031 October 19840·9
Assisted private storage
Cheese10515 November 198464
Butter17815 November 198496
Pigmeat2631 October 198441
Dried Fruit46end November 1984
Beef14316 November 198417
* As provided for in 1984 Supplementary and amending budget.
† Figures not available because budget does not identify expenditure in this sector in sufficient detail.

Outturn 1983–84

Latest forecast of outturn 1984–85

£ million

£ million

Milk Non-Marketing Premiums13·312·7
Suckler Cow Premium Scheme15·727·8
Annual Premium on Ewes66·377·5
95·3118·0
Grand Total1,374·51,424·1

Expenditure includes the beef and sheepmeat variable premium schemes—net of clawback for sheepmeat and charges on beef exported and sold into intervention—the premium schemes for the non-marketing of milk and the conversion of dairy herds, suckler cow premium scheme, annual premium on ewes, refunds on imports and exports, net of levies, the butter and school milk subsidies, and the net cost of buying commodities into intervention less proceeds from sales. It also takes account of certain receipts treated as negative expenditure, namely, monetary compensatory amounts levied on intraCommunity trade and the co-responsibility and supplementary levies on milk producers. Of the estimated outturn for 1984–85 £1,087·1 million is expected to be financed from the European agricultural guidance and guarantee fund (EAGGF), the balance being financed from Exchequer funds. In 1983–84 £1,132·9 million was financed from EAGGF. Some of the expenditure shown above benefits consumers and trade interests rather than United Kingdom producers.

Intervention Stocks

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will list the amounts of foodstuffs currently being stored in the European Economic Community under the intervention policies of the common agricultural policy and the cost of storing those foodstuffs.

The latest information on Community intervention stocks and the amounts set aside to meet the costs of holding stocks in the 1984 Community budget are set out below. It must be emphasised that the budget figures cover the whole of 1984 and do not relate solely to the current level of stocks.

Seal Population (North Sea)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what estimate he has of the seal population in the North sea; what information he has as to the gross food requirement of the seal population there; and what information he has as to the amount of fish destroyed but not consumed by the seals.

Intervention Stores

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will state the locations in London and the west midlands where the intervention stores for surplus EEC agriculture produce are sited and the amount of food stored, broken down into each class of produce; and how long such products have been held in such stores.

At 31 October the position was:

LocationCommodityQuantity tonnes
London
HornseyBeef6
HackneyBeef920
Butter1,712
StratfordBeef157
SouthallButter1,122
ActonButter696
TottenhamButter672
West Midlands
CoventryBread Wheat1,191
KingswinfordSkimmed Milk Powder2,040
WalsallBeef158
Butter2,711
WolverhamptonBeef457
Butter6,833
Because stocks are not constant, it is not possible to give meaningful figures for storage periods.

Attorney-General

Mrs Norah Mccabe

asked the Attorney-General if the Director of Public Prosecutions for Northern Ireland received from the coroner, under the Prosecution of Offences (N.I.) Order 1972, a report on the circumstances surrounding the death of Mrs. Norah McCabe on 9 July 1981.

No. The police had already fully reported the facts to the Director who had taken his decision before the inquest was held.

asked the Attorney-General if he was consulted by the Director of Public Prosecutions for Northern Ireland about any prosecutions arising out of the death of Mrs. Norah McCabe on 9 July 1981.

asked the Attorney-General if he will now state why no prosecution has been commenced by the Director of Public Prosecutions for Northern Ireland in respect of the death of Mrs. Norah McCabe on 9 July 1981.

The Director of Public Prosecutions for Northern Ireland carefully considered all the evidence available to him in this case, including the full version (as distinct from the edited version shown recently on television in this country) of the film that was taken by the Canadian news cameramen who were present and filming at the time of the incident in question. He concluded that the evidence did not warrant the institution of proceedings against any person in respect of Mrs. McCabe's death.

asked the Attorney-General what are the criteria applied by the Director of Public Prosecutions for Northern Ireland in making a decision whether or not to bring a prosecution against a member of the Royal Ulster Constabulary for offences of violence against members of the public; and if these criteria are different in any way from those which are applied in decisions concerning the prosecution of members of the public or of members of a police force in England and Wales.

The criteria applied by the Director of Public Prosecutions for Northern Ireland in these cases are exactly the same as those applied in comparable cases involving members of the public or members of a police force in England and Wales.

Defence

Airborne Early Warning

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the future of the remaining Shackleton airborne early warning squadrons; and which system he expects to provide radar defence against low level attack in 12 months, 24 months and 36 months From now.

Wales

Multiple Sclerosis

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many multiple sclerosis sufferers there are in Wales; and how many specialist centres for the treatment of multiple sclerosis sufferers there are in Wales.

Since multiple sclerosis is not a notifiable disease detailed information on the numbers of sufferers is not held centrally. People with multiple sclerosis are a sub-group, albeit a large one, of a group of patients who suffer from disabling neurological conditions. Statistics obtained from district health authorities on the numbers of admissions to inpatient or attendances at outpatient departments are unlikely to reflect in full the incidence of the disease.There are no specialist centres for multiple sclerosis sufferers in Wales. It is for district health authorities to provide and develop appropriate clinical facilities for those with multiple sclerosis, as indeed for other patients with disabling neurological conditions. Service provision is normally made available by district general hospitals.

School Books

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is his estimate of the financial cost in 1983–84 to the local education authorities of Wales of their purchasing of school books.

Reliable estimates of expenditure on school books are not available. Expenditure on school books and equipment by local authorities in Wales is provisionally estimated to have been £14·0 million in 1983–84.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is his estimate of the percentage of all school book costs in 1983–84 in the local education authorities of Wales provided by parental contribution.

Youth Service

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what was the amount of cash spent by the local education authorities of Wales on the youth service.

The latest available information refers to 1982–83 and is as follows:

£ million
Youth Service Current5·241
Youth Service Capital0·172

Local Education Authorities (Expenditure Policies)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales when he intends to publish the report of Her Majesty's Inspectorate on the effects of local education authority expenditure policies in Wales in 1983–84.

The Welsh Office has published the report today. Copies are available in the Library.

Northern Ireland

Strip Searches

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many strip searches were made of female prisoners in Her Majesty's prison, Armagh, in November; if he will give the number of persons involved and the number of times each person was searched; whether any prison contraband, smuggled item or illegal correspondence was discovered in any search, indicating which items; and in how many cases prisoners refused to be searched and had to be restrained while the search was being concluded.

During November 33 strip searches were carried out on 22 female inmates in Her Majesty's prison, Armagh. Individual prisoners were searched the following number of times:

Number of PrisonersNumber of Searches in each case
112
111
No prohibited articles were found during these searches and no prisoner refused to be searched.

Incident (Linden Street)

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (1) if he will now set up an inquiry into the circumstances surrounding the death of Mrs. Norah McCabe on 9 July 1981;(2) if any police disciplinary action has been taken against any officers who took part in the Royal Ulster Constabulary Land Rover patrol in the vicinity of Linden street, Belfast, on 9 July 1981;(3) of the Royal Ulster Constabulary officers who took part in a Land Rover patrol in the vicinity of Linden street, Belfast, on 9 July 1981, how many

(a) are still serving in the Royal Ulster Constabulary and (b) have been promoted in rank since that date;

(4) how many formal complaints have been made about incidents of police use of plastic baton rounds in each year since 1979; in how many cases the complaint has been upheld; and in how many cases disciplinary action has been taken against the officers involved;

(5) how many claims for damages have been made to date for alleged injury by plastic bullets fired by (a) the Army and (b) the Royal Ulster Constabulary in Northern Ireland; what have been the results so far; in how many cases liability has been admitted; in how many cases the courts has made the findings of liability; and what is the total sum of damages paid to date.

National Finance

Value Added Tax (Telephone Bills)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will introduce legislation to remove value added tax on telephone bills for elderly and disabled people.

No. It remains Government policy to assist those in financial need through the system of grants and allowances which the recipients can spend in the way best suited to their individual needs rather than by indiscriminate reliefs from value added tax which give equal benefits to those who need financial help and those who do not.

Tax Changes

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will make available a list of (a) tax changes already announced and due to take effect from April 1985 and (b) other provisions on which proposed legislation has been announced.

Yes, I am arranging for a list to be prepared. As soon as it is ready I will place a copy in the Library, and write to the hon. Member.

Money Supply

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the increase in the real money supply since the first quarter of 1974.

Chile

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will instruct the British executive director of the International Monetary Fund to oppose any proposal to approve a waiver of the performance criteria for Chile's current standby arrangement on 7 December.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he has reviewed the bilateral or multilateral financial relationships between Her Majesty's Government and the Government of Chile since the recent declaration of a state of siege in Chile.

Her Majesty's Government keeps its relationships with Chile under constant review so that our relations with that country properly reflect both our concerns and our interests there.

Education And Science

Student Awards

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what responses he has sent to the chairman of Leeds university council and the vice-chancellor of Kent university in reply to their recent complaints made to him concerning students' grant allocations and contributory parental income towards tuition fees.

We have no record of having received letters from the chairman of the Leeds university council or the vice-chancellor of Kent university complaining about these matters.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will now seek to meet representatives of the major commercial banks in order to discuss the possibility of devising a special student loan facility as a supplement to grants.

I would refer my hon. Friend to my right hon. Friend's statement on 5 December 1984 at columns 360–61. We have no doubt that the possibility of a special student loan facility will be one of the matters to be examined in the review which the Government will be undertaking.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will estimate the cost to the universities of his proposals for amending student grants in terms of (a) adverse cash flow and loss of interest on moneys in hand, (b) increased bad debts and (c) extra administration costs.

The student grant proposals announced by my right hon. Friend on 5 December 1984 at columns 360–61 will not give rise to any such costs.

Institute Of Hearing

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will make a further statement on the progress of the work of the Institute of Hearing.

At the Medical Research Council's Institute of Hearing Research the programme of research continues to progress well. A copy of the latest report published last year, which summarises the work being carried out at the institute's headquarters and its outstations, is available in the Library.

Prime Minister

Ec (Food Surpluses)

asked the Prime Minister, following her answer to the hon. Member for Dundee West, 22 November, Official Report, column 221, on denaturation of common market food surpluses in Britain, if she will (a) publish the names of the towns, cities or regions where such practices are carried out and (b) seek to end such activities and ensure that these surpluses are released instead to the Ethiopian famine effort.

(a) During the year ended 31 October 1984 denaturing has been carried out at thefollowing locations:

  • Skimmed Milk Powder
    • Renfrew
    • Poole
    • Wincham
    • Thurnham
    • Earls Croom
    • Keynsham
    • Kilmarnock
    • Bovey Tracey
    • Darlington
    • Cupar
    • Bucksburn
    • Belfast
    • Heanor
    • Camborne
    • Stamford
    • Melmerby
    • Leiston
    • Betley
    • Wellington
    • Derby
    • Northallerton
    • Tymawn
    • Hull
    • Turriff
    • Bridgewater
    • Stowmarket
  • Wheat
  • Mathwold
  • Kings Lynn
  • Skegness
  • Wisbech

(b) No wheat is currently being denatured. The only skimmed milk powder being denatured is old stock which is not suitable for food aid. The Government and the Community are already taking more effective action to assist the drought-striken areas of Ethiopia than that proposed by the hon. Member.

Environment

Tenants' Charter

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he has any plans to make recommendations to local housing authorities that they should monitor the effectiveness of the tenants' charter by maintaining lists.

My right hon. Friend does not consider that this would be cost-effective.

New Towns

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what specific new developments are going to be financed in the 21 new towns of England and Wales resulting from the assets acquired from the sale by development corporations of commercial and industrial property.

The accounts of the development corporations and the Commission for the New Towns (HC/ 83/84/ 610 and 611) show that in 1983–84 in the 21 new towns in England there were capital receipts of £151,198,000, which supported capital investment of £192,464,000. About £77 million of these capital receipts came from the disposal of industrial and commercial assets. An analysis of the capital expenditure by each corporation is contained in the first schedule to each set of accounts. The accompanying annual reports highlight the more significant individual projects. In the current and future financial years, capital receipts will continue to support generally the housing, sewerage, roads, commercial, industrial and amenity investment of the new towns. The two new towns in Wales are the responsibility of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Wales.

Stolport

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects to give his final decision on the planning application and inspector's report regarding the development of a STOLport in docklands.

My right hon. Friend is consulting the parties about new evidence received since the public inquiry. He will give his decision as soon as possible after that consultation is completed.

Stansted And Heathrow

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he will publish the inspector's report on the Stansted and Heathrow terminal 5 inquiries.

The inspector's report will be published on Monday 10 December when copies will be placed in the Library and in the Vote Office and in those public libraries where the transcripts were deposited. It will be posted to the applicants, to the local planning authorities in whose areas the sites of the proposed developments lie, to section 29 parties and to the organisations and individuals represented at the inquiries.The inspector's report is very long. A shortened version, comprising extracts from the report, will be published separately. That version will include all the inspector's conclusions and recommendations. Those receiving the full report will receive the shortened version.Further copies of the full report and of the shortened version will be available as soon as possible.

Buses

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list the representations he has received from transport users supporting his bus service deregulation proposals.

I have received numerous responses from transport users for and against various aspects of the White Paper on buses.

Scotland

North Of Scotland Hydroelectric Board (Fishing Beats)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will estimate the profits which will accrue in the first year following sale to the North of Scotland Hydroelectric Board, following its sale of several fishing beats on the river Conon, Ross-shire.

This is a commercial matter for the board. The sale price has not been disclosed at this stage.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he is satisfied with the conditions pertaining to the recent sale of fishing beats on the river Conon, Ross-shire, by the North of Scotland Hydroelectric Board in so far as they affect future access to the beats by local fishermen; and if he will make a statement.

I understand that the new owner of the three Brahan beats plans to offer the fishings for let on a weekly basis to previous tenants and local interests, and certain weeks in July, August and September will be resold. The new owners of the Coul beat have indicated that they will give priority to previous tenants and to local interests for any fishing that may be available for letting. The board has made it clear that it hopes to come to satisfactory arrangements with local angling clubs, hotels and others, before the remaining beats are disposed of in order to maintain access by local anglers and visitors. I am satisfied that a reasonable balance has been struck between the case for continuing local access and the need to dispose of an asset irrelevant to the board's main business.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how much he expects to be paid into the Consolidated Fund as a result of the sale of several fishing beats on the river Conon, Ross-shire, by the North of Scotland Hydroelectric Board.

There will be no payment into the Consolidated Fund. The proceeds of the sale will be used in the general financing of the board's business, thereby keeping borrowings below what would otherwise have been required.

Home Department

Bbc (Licence Fee)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) what further information he has sought to date from the British Broadcasting Corporation in support of its application for an increased licence fee; what further information he plans to seek; and if he will make a statement;(2) what information was supplied by the British Broadcasting Corporation to support its request for an increase in the licence fee;(3) what was the level of licence fee requested by the British Broadcasting Corporation mentioned in his answer of Tuesday 20 November,

Official Report, column 105, and the period the increase is designed to cover.

The BBC has submitted an application for an increase in the licence fee but in accordance with past practice my right hon. and learned Friend does not propose to disclose the details of the request submitted or the precise way in which he will examine it. He will, however, take account of the findings of the independent consultants appointed by the BBC, at his suggestion, to examine the scope for the BBC to provide its existing services at their present standard but at lower cost through increased efficiency in the use of resources. In reaching a view on the application he will seek to balance the needs of the BBC with the interests of the licence fee payer.

Name of EstablishmentSchemeYear of StartWhether integral sanitation included
AcklingtonCamp under redevelopment as a category C prison1975Yes
Additional living block1985Yes
AlbanyRestoration following disturbances and improved access to wings1983Access to sanitation available by electric unlocking
AshwellCamp under redevelopment as open prison1983Access to sanitation available from cubicles
AylesburyConstruction of new living block and refurbishment of existing wings1989Yes
BedfordNew Gate complex, kitchen and living block1986Yes
BirminghamRefurbishment of B1 landing1984No
Construction of new living block1987Yes
BrixtonRefurbishment of F wing1981No
Conversion of dormitory to cells1983No
BrockhillConversion of D wing to cells1986Yes
Campsfield HouseRedevelopment as closed YCC1987Yes
CardiffNew living block1987Yes
CastingtonCamp under redevelopment as closed YCC1976Yes
Channings WoodCamp under redevelopment as category C prison1975Yes
Additional living block1985Yes
DartmoorRefurbishment of existing wings1984Yes
DeerboltCamp under redevelopment as closed YCC1975Yes
ErlestokeCamp under redevelopment as semi-secure YCC1980Access to sanitation available from cubicles
FelthamConstruction of new closed YCC1976Yes
Construction of new remand accommodation1983Yes
Glen ParvaConstruction of new closed YCC and remand and allocation centre1975Yes
Guys MarshCamp under redevelopment as semi-secure YCC1982Yes
HatfieldReplacement of dormitories with cubicular living units1982Access to sanitation available from cubicles
HaveriggCamp redevelopment1987Access to sanitation available from cubicles
HighpointCamp under redevelopment as category C prison1975Access to sanitation available from cubicles
Additional cellular living block1981Yes
Hollesley BayConstruction of secure unit1979Yes
Redevelopment of open accommodation1985Access to sanitation available from cubicles
HollowayRedevelopment1974Yes
HuntercombeRedevelopment1985Yes
KirkhamCamp redevelopment1987Access to sanitation available from cubicles
LeedsConstruction of new living blocks and refurbishment of existing wings1986Yes
LeicesterRefurbishment of recesses in wings1985No
LeyhillCamp under redevelopment as open prison1982Access to sanitation available from cubicles
LincolnConstruction of new living block1988Yes
LiverpoolRefurbishment of existing wings1985Yes
Morton HallRedevelopment as closed YCC1986Yes
New HallReplacement of dormitories1983Access to sanitation available from cubicles
NortheyeConstruction of new accommodation1975Access to sanitation available from cubicles
NottinghamConstruction of new living block1989Yes
ParkhurstRedevelopment1986Yes

Penal Establishments (Improvements)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, if he will list all penal establishments at which improvements or refurbishments are being carried out, or are planned, indicating for each (a) the date planning started, (b) when the scheme started or is planned to start, (c) the work to be done and (d) whether the scheme includes integral sanitation.

The information readily available in relation to major capital schemes in the current five-year programme to improve or replace living accommodation at existing penal establishments is set out in the following table. Schemes to improve or replace ancillary facilities are in progress or planned at a further 54 establishments.

Name of Establishment

Scheme

Year of Start

Whether integral sanitation included

RanbyCamp under redevelopment as category C prison1982Access to sanitation available from cubicles
RudgateCamp under redevelopment as open prison1985Access to sanitation available from cubicles
StaffordRefurbishment of existing wings1982Yes
Standford HillConstruction of new living accommodation1983Access to sanitation available from cubicles
SudburyCamp under redevelopment as open prison1984Access to sanitation available from cubicles
Swinfen HallConstruction of new living units1987Yes
Usk (Prescoed)Camp under redevelopment as open YCC1982Access to sanitation available from cubicles
WandsworthRefurbishment of existing wings1986Yes
WetherbyRedevelopment as closed YCC1986Yes
Wormwood ScrubsRefurbishment and redevelopment1986Yes

Certificates Of Unruly Character

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if it is proposed to make any changes in respect of the present powers of the courts relating to the issue of unruly certificates.

My right hon. and learned Friend proposes to make an order defining more restrictively than does the Certificates of Unruly Character (Conditions) Order 1977 the circumstances in which a 15 or 16-year-old boy may be remanded to a prison department establishment. In particular, he proposes that the power should be confined to cases where the boy has been charged with murder, attempted murder, rape, or certain other equally serious offences. He is also considering whether there are other ways in which the range of cases where remand to a prison department establishment is possible might be reduced to the minimum.

Racism Awareness

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he, other Ministers in his Department or any other members of his Department have attended racism awareness training courses; and if he will make a statement.

Ministers and the officials concerned seek continuously to advance their awareness of race relations matters. To this end they carry out a regular programme of visits to ethnic minority communities and maintain direct contact with many ethnic minority organisations throughout the country. In addition many members of my Department have attended race relations courses and seminars and the subject is also covered in a range of more general training courses provided both internally and externally.

Representation Of The People Bill 1984

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if it remains his intention that the proposals in clause 1 of the Representation of the People Bill 1984 should come into operation immediately upon Royal Assent.

No. Clause 27(2) brings the provisions of the Bill into force on such day or days as my right hon. and learned Friend appoints by order made by statutory instrument.

Bolton (Exercises)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many civil defence exercises and Royal Observer Corps exercises have been carried out in each of the last five years in the Bolton metropolitan district council area; and which authorities have been notified in each case.

I am not aware of any. All county authorities have notification of exercises involving the Royal Observer Corps.

Conventional Warfare (Policy)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what plans he has for the removal of population in the vicinity of nuclear power stations in the event of a war fought with conventional weapons.

Local authorities are responsible for plans to protect the population in their area and are guided in this by the Goverment. The planning assumptions for civil defence are set out in Home Office Circular number ES 1/1984 (a copy of which is in the Library of the House). It is expected that the use of conventional weapons would be confined to targets of military significance and it is unlikely that an enemy would give high priority to industrial or civilian targets (that is, including nuclear power stations). I also refer the hon. Member to the replies given to him by my hon. Friend the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Energy on 12 and 26 November at c. 92–3 and 370–71.

Plastic Baton Rounds

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will list the police forces in England and Wales which currently hold stocks of plastic baton rounds; how many such baton rounds are held by each force; what form of training for their use is supplied; how many officers have been so trained; if he will place in the Library a copy of the current instructions relating to their use; and if he will make a statement.

The following police forces are understood to hold stocks of plastic baton rounds:

  • Metropolitan Police
  • Avon and Somerset Essex
  • Humberside
  • Lancashire
  • Leicestershire
  • Lincolnshire
  • Merseyside
  • North Wales
  • North Yorkshire
  • Sussex
  • Warwickshire
  • Wiltshire
It would not be conducive to operational effectiveness to give details of the number of baton rounds held by individual forces or the full text of guidelines on their operational use that have been issued to chief officers of police.However, the guidelines stipulate that baton rounds, which must be of a type authorised by the Home Office, are to be used only with the express authority of the chief officer of police (or, in his absence, his deputy), under the direction and control of a senior officer whom he has designated as officer in charge and by police officers who have been trained in the use of the equipment and know its characteristics.They are to be used only as a last resort in cases where conventional methods of policing have been tried and failed or must, from the nature of the cirucumstances obtaining, be unlikely to succeed if tried, and where the chief officer judges such action to be necessary because of the risk of loss of life or serious injury or widespread destruction of property. Whenever practicable, a public warning of their use is to be given.Nothing in the guidelines affects the principle set out in section 3 of the Criminal Law Act 1967 that only the minimum force necessary in the circumstances must be used. The degree of force justified will vary according to the circumstances in each case.I shall write to the hon. Member about police training in the use of baton rounds.

Metropolitan Police (Clear-Up Rates)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what has been the clear-up rate for murder in the Metropolitan police area in each of the last five years; and what it has been in the three police authority areas with the best clear-up rate for murder and the three areas with the worst, excluding the Metropolitan and City of London police.

[pursuant to his reply, 3 December 1984, c. 4]: In cases of homocide it is not possible, in the absence of a court decision, to distinguish between offences of murder, manslaughter and infanticide. In the years 1979 to 1983 the clear-up rates for offences of homocide recorded in the Metropolitan Police District were 93 per cent., 95 per cent., 87 per cent., 77 per cent. and 89 per cent. respectively. Annual figures for other police force areas are subject to wider variation, especially for smaller police force areas, owing to the small numbers involved, variations in the type of case being dealt with, and because offences cleared up in one year may have been recorded in a previous year. Hence, the variation between police force areas is illustrated by the following table which gives for all offences of homocide recorded by the police aggregate figures for 1979 to 1983 for all police force areas.

Offences of homocide recorded by the police, 1979–83 England and Wales

Police Force Area

Total recorded

Number cleared-up

Clear-up rate per cent.

Avon and Somerset524994
Bedfordshire292793
Cambridgeshire211990
Cheshire4343100
Cleveland3333100
Cumbria252496
Derbyshire363494
Devon and Cornwall636095
Dorset272696
Durham272696
Essex747297
Gloucestershire1418129
Greater Manchester13513399
Hampshire585798
Hertfordshire343294
Humberside797494
Kent595593
Lancashire747399
Leicestershire332988
Lincolnshire222195
London City of22100
Merseyside10310198
Metropolitan Police85575488
Norfolk2525100
Northamptonshire413483
Northumbria747399
North Yorkshire3233103
Nottinghamshire545296
South Yorkshire646297
Staffordshire343294
Suffolk181689
Surrey131292
Sussex555498
Thames Valley787596
Warwickshire2626100
West Mercia414098
West Midlands20520198
West Yorkshire14914094
Wiltshire232087
Dyfed Powys1718106
Gwent343397
North Wales323197
South Wales6366105
England and Wales2,9762,80594

* The ratio of offences cleared-up in the period to offences recorded in the period.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Scientific Conferences (Usa)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what representations he has made to the United States Government about their refusal to allow certain British scientists assisting this Government in high technology to attend some scientific conferences in the United States of America; and if he will make a statement.

We have expressed to the United States Government our concern over undue restrictions on the access by British scientists and technologists to conferences and seminars in the United States. The Foreign and Commonwealth Office continues to keep closely in touch with developments in the United States and with leading scientific organisations in the United Kingdom.

Transport

Bitumen (Costs)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what effect he expects the recent rise in the price of bitumen to have on the road construction and maintenance programme in 1985–86.

It is too early to assess the net effect of the recent increase in the price of bitumen on output in road construction and maintenance in 1985–86, because the price of bitumen is only one of many factors which determine overall costs.

Railways (Safety)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will ask the Railway Inspectorate to report on the effectiveness of the safety devices on the three light signal system.

There are a number of safety devices associated with colour-light signals. They include such things as the replacement of the previous signal to Danger if a lamp bulb should fail, and the automatic warning system. The effectiveness of these safety devices is commented on, where appropriate, in the Railway Inspectorate's published accident reports. Their relevance to recent accidents will be covered in the inquiry reports, so there would be no particular gain from a separate study or report.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will list the number of rail accidents involving passenger trains during 1982, 1983 and 1984 showing how many deaths resulted; what were the causes of these accidents; and whether he is satisfied with the measures being taken to reduce rail accidents.

The numbers of significant passenger train accidents on all railways in Great Britain during 1982, 1983 and 1984 are shown in the table. Significant accidents, as defined in the Department's published Annual Report on Railway Safety, are those which are actually or potentially hazardous to passengers. They include all derailments and most collisions but exclude minor incidents: details of the latter are given in the annual reports. Separate causes of all the accidents in the table cannot be readily shown, but in general about half are caused by errors and omissions on the part of railway staff, a third by mechanical defects, and the remainder by a variety or combination of causes.

Significant Passenger Train Accidents
YearNumber of AccidentsFatalitiesPassenger Journeys (Millions)
PassengerStaff
198266Nil21,126
1983782Nil1,260
1984*621721,220
* In the case of the number of accidents the 1984 figures are provisional, based on accident returns made up to 5 December 1984. Thirteen of the passenger fatalities occurred in one accident (Polmont). In the case of passenger journeys, the 1984 figure is estimated for the whole year.
Measures to reduce accidents are the responsibility of the railway authorities. The Railway Inspectorate monitors all aspects of railway safety and reports regularly on the safety situation — in its annual report and in the published reports on individual accidents. These reports show that, overall, the railways have been becoming progressively safer during the past decade.

Public Transport

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will publish in the Official Report the number of passenger miles travelled in (a) Essex and (b) Thurrock borough council area by public transport in 1977, 1979, 1981, 1983 and 1984; and what information he has as to the deficit or surplus per passenger mile on these services.

The information requested is not available for individual boroughs. The stage carriage returns for bus operations submitted by Essex county council contain no information about passenger miles but the following figures have been extracted from the returns.

1977–781979–801981–821983–841984–85
Passengers carried (000)83,77779,97676,99770,15066,629*
Revenue support payments (other than concessionary fares) (£000)1,2091,6802,2353,1213,735*
Revenue support per passenger carried (pence)1·42·12·94·45·6*
* estimate.

Buses

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will place in the Library a copy of the response of Eastern National and London Country bus companies to the White Paper, "Buses" (Cmnd. 9301.)

I am not aware of any response from Eastern National and London Country but it is in any case for the authors of responses to the White Paper to make them public if they wish.

Dartford Tunnel

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what is his latest estimate of the repayment of debt on the Dartford tunnel and the consequent abolition of the tolls.

The tunnel is the responsibility of the Kent and Essex county councils. I understand that the councils estimate that tunnel debts will be repaid during the financial year 1993–4. However, the Dartford Tunnel Act 1984, which repeats earlier legislation, also requires maintenance and reserve funds to be established before tolls can cease. The councils' most recent estimate is that those funds will be established during the financial year 1996–97. The estimates are obviously sensitive to the actual level of traffic growth over the next 10 years.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport when formal plans for a third Dartford tunnel will be drawn up.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Epping Forest (Sir J. Biggs-Davison) on 3 December at column 34.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will publish in the Official Report the design capacity of the Dartford tunnel in terms of vehicle usage per hour.

Employment

Young Workers Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what evidence he has available as to the size of firms which are providing jobs under the young workers scheme.

Information from a sample survey carried out in early 1983 suggests the distribution of approved applications under the young workers scheme, but by size of establishment and not by size of firm. The information is as follows:

Size of establishment (employees)Percentage
1 to 1057
11 to 2423
25 to 499
50 to 994
100 to 1994
200 to 4992
500 plus1

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what evidence he has on the breakdown of jobs provided under the young workers scheme by standard industrial classification.

Since the young workers scheme started in January 1982, approved applications have been categorised by standard industrial classification divisions. The breakdown for October, the latest date for which information is available, is:

Young workers scheme approved applications—monthly breakdown by standard industrial classification
SIC division number and divisionOctober per cent.
0 Agriculture, forestry and fishing3
1 Energy and water supply industries1
2 Extraction of minerals and ores other than fuels; manufacture of metals, mineral products and chemicals2
3 Metal goods, engineering and vehicles industries9
4 Other manufacturing industries14
5 Construction15
6 Distribution, hotels and catering; repairs29
7 Transport and communication3
8 Banking, finance, insurance, business services and leasing8
9 Other services16

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many people have been taken on to the young workers scheme after they have been on either (a) the youth opportunities programme or (b) the youth training scheme with the same employer.

The only information currently available is a sample survey conducted between Febntary and April 1983 which suggested that 32 per cent. of young workers had been on a youth opportunities programme, 26 per cent. with the same employer.

Youth Training Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many young people on mode B youth training schemes are currently employed in psychiatric hospitals; in what capacity; and if he will make a statement.

All young people on mode B of the youth training scheme are unemployed trainees. They may spend part of their training period in work placements in a wide variety of establishments, which may include psychiatric hospitals. However, no central records are maintained of the number of placements of this kind which are in use.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many (a) male and (b) female young people have completed the youth training schemes in the Hull travel-to-work area, by year, since the inception of the scheme; and if he will indicate those who obtained permanent employment with the employer with whom they trained and of the rest of the number who obtained permanent employment within (i) six months, (ii) 12 months and (iii) are still unemployed following the completion of their training.

Information is not available in the form requested. The number of young people who completed their expected time on the youth training scheme in the county of Humberside between 1 April 984 and 31 October 1984 was 2,585, of whom 1,532 were males and 1,053 were females. Information on the subsequent destination of these young people is not available.

Community Programme

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he has any plans to extend the Manpower Services Commission community programme to two years.

Labour Statistics

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many building trade operatives are registered as unemployed in the Hackney, North and Stoke Newington parliamentary constituency.

Information about occupations is not available in the unemployment benefit office records on which the unemployment count is now based.

Unemployment

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how the rise in the level of unemployment in the west midlands region currently compares with that of London and the south-east; and how it has compared with the same area in each year since 1979.

Estimates of unemployed claimants by region are available in the House of Commons Library. Comparisons are affected by the 1983 Budget provisions which enable some men, mainly aged 60 and over, to receive the long term rate of supplementary benefit and national insurance credits without having to sign on at an unemployment benefit office.

Liverpool Skillcentre

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what will be the implications for employment of his plan to close the Liverpool skillcentre; how many instructors will be made redundant; what will be the savings; and if he will make a statement.

[pursuant to his reply, 6 December 1984, c. 258]: I refer the hon. Member to the statement made by my right hon. Friend on 29 November at columns 1108–16. Proposals for the future of the skillcentre network have been put to the Manpower Services Commission by the skillcentre training agency and the Commission has yet to consider them.Around 450 of the staff who would be affected nationally are in the instructional grades including some 37 at Liverpool skillcentre. The Manpower Services Commission would discuss detailed proposals with the relevant trade unions with a view to achieving the proposed changes with as little disruption to staff as possible.The closure of Liverpool skillcentre would result in an annual saving to the agency in premises costs alone of about £400,000. The proposals as a whole would ensure the agency achieved full cost-recovery from 1986–87, thus ending the need for a subvention from the taxpayer.Under locally run adult training programmes as a whole we plan to more than double the number of people who will be trained in Liverpool and Sefton from around 2,000 in 1984–85 to around 4,400 in 1985–86.

Trade And Industry

Credit Cards (Fraud)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will seek information from the Office of Fair Trading on its inquiries into the practices of credit card companies in seeking to prevent fraud; what representations he has received from credit card companies about the handling of these inquiries by the Office of Fair Trading; and if he will make a statement.

Under the Restrictive Trade Practices Act 1976, the Office of Fair Trading has a statutory duty to register restrictive agreements coming within the scope of the Act and to refer these to the restrictive practices court. I understand that earlier this year the credit card companies approached the office for preliminary discussions on the possible application of the Act to a proposed joint arrangement concerning credit card fraud. The office was unable to give a view without further details, which the companies agreed to provide if they wished to proceed. The companies have so far not followed this up with the office. I have received no representations from the credit card companies on this subject.

Ring Main Plugs

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he is considering legislation to require that all ring main plugs sold are so designed as to permit the use of only one fuse rating; and if he will make a statement.

No. Such a regulation would involve redesign of both plugs and fuses, but would not in itself ensure that particular groups of appliances were fitted with fused plugs of particular ratings. In any case, the additional protection for the consumer would be negligible.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he is considering legislation to prohibit the use of electrical appliances with fused plugs without the plug being fitted with the capacity of fuse which maximises the protection of the appliance.

No. There are clear and serious objections to safety legislation covering the use of consumer products in people's homes rather than the commercial supply of such goods. Moreover, such a requirement, even if it were enforceable, would provide negligible additional protection to consumers.

Regional Policy

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what proportion of the £400 million which he plans to continue to spend each year on regional policy to improve job prospects in areas of high unemployment he expects will be allocated to the west midlands; and which sectors he envisages will be primarily eligible for grants allocation.

The distribution of expenditure on regional industrial policy will continue to be determined by demand within the assisted areas. Parts of the west midlands are now intermediate areas, so firms in those parts now qualify for regional selective assistance for which all sectors of industry are now eligible on the same basis. Only firms in development areas are eligible for regional development grants which are expected to account for about half the total expenditure of about £400 million in 1987–88.

Job Creation

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what level of funding has been allocated for the purpose of supporting capital intensive projects during 1984; and how many new jobs have been created as a result.

The concept of capital-intensity is not specifically employed in the allocation of funds. However, in the Government's view the old scheme of regional development grants had, in practice, too great a bias in favour of capital. The changes announced on 28 November by my hon. Friend, the Minister of State, Department of Trade and Industry, are intended to reduce this bias.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry upon what assumptions he has based his statement that introducing the new regional aid policy will cost nearly £300 million per year less than continuing the present one.

On the basis of the previous policy and expected investment intentions it is estimated that nearly £700 million would have been spent on regional industrial policy in 1987–88. The expected savings of nearly £300 million in that year are mainly attributable to the introduction of the new RDG scheme. That will enable savings to be made by the exclusion of replacement investment from grant, by the application of the grant per job ceiling in relation to large undertakings and as a result of the abolition of special development areas and their higher rate of capital grant. These savings will be partly offset by the job grant alternative to capital grant, the extension of the regional development grant scheme to some service activities, the increase in the total coverage of the assisted area map, and the increase in regional selective assistance for modernisation projects.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what level of costs will be incurred arising from the proposed replacement of the former system of regional aid by the new system.

The changes in regional industrial incentives will involve extra costs as the transitional provisions meant that, in effect, the new and old RDG schemes and the new and old assisted area maps will overlap. We expect expenditure on the old RDG scheme to be nearly £700 million over the next three financial years.

Polyurethane (Joint Ventures)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what information he has concerning ventures which have been jointly undertaken by chemical groups in the United Kingdom with enterprises in member countries of COMECON for the purpose of producing polyurethane for domestic and export markets.

Vosper Shiprepairers Ltd (Pension Fund)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what arrangements for the Vosper Shiprepairers Ltd. pension fund will be made following privatisation; and if he will make a statement.

Social Services

General Practitioners (Prescriptions)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will take steps to prevent general practitioners making available blank signed prescription forms to be filled in by non-medical staff.

The practice is contrary to the terms of service for doctors, and any evidence of it should be referred to the medical services committee concerned for consideration of whether a breach of those terms of service has occurred. A finding of breach of this kind would be a serious matter and should represent a significant deterrent to any practitioner contemplating such action.

Kidney Patients

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how much was spent on the provision of kidney machines in the National Health Service in 1983–84; and how that figure compares with 1978–79, in both cash and real terms.

This information is not available centrally. The number of patients being treated by haemodialysis in the United Kingdom rose from 2,883 on 31 December 1978 to 3,708 on 31 December 1982, the most recent date for which information is available. It has been estimated that the capital cost of a kidney machine is between £5,500 and £8,500 depending upon specifications. A study undertaken in 1981 estimated the cost of maintaining a patient on haemodialysis at home at between £7,100 and £8,700 (£7,950 to £9,750 at 1983 prices) and the cost of maintaining a patient on haemodialysis in hospital at between £11,200 and £13,650 (£12,550 and £15,300 at 1983 prices). A study undertaken in 1983 suggested that the average cost of maintaining a patient on haemodialysis in a satellite unit at £8,700. These figures include the costs of staffing and consumables, the value of machines, equipment and home conversions expressed on an annual basis, and the average costs incurred as a result of medical complications.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how much was spent by the National Health Service on kidney transplants in 1983–84; and how that figure compares with the figure for 1978–79.

This information is not available centrally. The number of cadaver kidney transplant operations performed in the United Kingdom rose from 842 in 1979 to 1,160 in 1983, and the latter figure had already been passed in October 1984. A study undertaken in 1981 estimated the cost of a successful transplant at between £5,000 and £5,700 in the first year (£5,600 and £6,450 at 1983 prices) and at between £1,400 and £1,650 in subsequent years (£1,550 and £1,850 at 1983 prices). Changes in practice since then, particularly the introduction of the drug Cyclosporin A which significantly increases graft survival, will have increased the cost of post operative treatment.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he has any plans to expand the number of kidney transplants and the number of kidney machines available to the National Health Service.

Expanding the facilities for treating patients who suffer end stage renal failure is a matter for health authorities, but they have been told of the need for renal services to be developed as a priority within the acute sector. The Government are fully committed to the expansion of these services and we will shortly be announcing targets, agreed with health authorities, to ensure that this is achieved.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many kidney patients are currently using CAPD2 renal dialysis peritoneal dialysis solution treatment in their homes; and what financial assistance is currently available to patients using such equipment in their own homes for running and maintenance costs.

According to the most recent information from the European Dialysis and Transplant Association, the number of renal patients in the United Kingdom being treated by continuous ambulatory peritoneal dialysis (CAPD) on 31 December 1982 was 1,136. Nearly all CAPD patients return to their homes after a short period in hospital when they are trained in the technique. CAPD does not involve the use of a machine and maintenance costs do not, therefore, arise. No financial assistance is provided specifically for CAPD patients but all equipment and fluids for the treatment are provided free of charge, and the patients are exempt from prescription charges.

Nhs (Staff)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will now publish figures showing firm manpower targets within the National Health Service for March 1985 and the trend for 1985–86.

The manpower targets set for regional health authorities in England and the special health authorities for the London postgraduate teaching hospitals for 31 March 1985 are set out in the table. These authorities have been advised that, nationally, manpower in March 1986 can be expected to be contained within the 1985 target level.

Manpower Targets for 31 March 1985
RegionTarget for 31 March 1985
Northern54,800
Yorkshire61,700
Trent75,000
East Anglian30,500
North West Thames57,600
North East Thames72,500
South East Thames65,000
South West Thames49,200
Wessex44,500
Oxford34,400
South Western53,100
West Midlands84,400
Mersey44,200
North Western75,800
Total: Regions802,700
Special Health Authorities for the London Postgraduate Teaching Hospitals11,700
All figures rounded to nearest 100.

Hospital Beds

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will give the figures for unoccupied hospital beds in 1982–83, and the number of occupied beds in 1982, 1983 and 1984 in (a) England and (b) each region.

The required information is given in the table. Figures for 1984 are not yet available. As I explained to my hon. Friend in my reply on 4 December at c. 174 aggregated bed occupancy is not a good indicator of efficient bed use.

National Health Service Hospitals

Regional health Authority

Average daily number of occupied beds*

Average daily number of available beds* not occupied*

1982

1983

1982

1983

Northern19,24319,4055,4375,323
Yorkshire22,42322,1376,0655,897
Trent24,07423,9906,6706,491
East Anglian10,19910,2302,7152,771
North West Thames21,30720,8644,5454,479
North East Thames24,19423,9225,1044,819
South East Thames21,69121,2375,1255,119
South West Thames20,43219,9983,5893,721
Wessex14,70214,5003,8453,809
Oxford10,37410,2192,7392,598
South Western19,15518,8154,7054,644
West Midlands28,08927,6877,1396,857
Mesey16,84716,4703,6733,378
North Western24,57924,4496,0995,935
Special Health Authorities and Boards of Governors2,5242,507821820
England279,833276,42968,27166,662

* Bed occupancy figures are based on a midnight count and do not therefore reflect the use of beds by patients who do not stay overnight.

Limited List Prescribing

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what new evidence persuaded him to reject the recommendation of paragraph 25 of the Greenfield report on generic prescribing in favour of the introduction of a limited list.

Paragraph 25 of the Greenfield report on effective prescribing recommended rejection of a limited list of drugs across all therapeutic categories primarily on the grounds that the financial benefits were unproven. Our limited list proposals cover only a small number of therapeutic categories containing simple remedies and benzodiazepine sedatives and tranquillisers. Our proposals are the result of further detailed investigations and inquiries which show that in other countries with similar arrangements savings have been immediate and worthwhile and no damage has been caused to patient care.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) which other countries have limited list drug schemes;(2) whether any research was done prior to the announcement on 8 November of his proposals for limited list prescribing of such schemes in

(a) Denmark, (b) New Zealand, (c) Australia and (d) West Germany.

Limited list drug schemes have been introduced by most countries with advanced health care systems including Australia, Belgium, France, West Germany, Ireland, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, the Netherlands, Italy, Portugal, Spain and New Zealand. We have studied the operation of most of these schemes in depth.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how he proposes to evaluate the therapeutic equivalence between a branded and a generic product.

When we reach final decisions on the range of drugs prescribable at public expense in a small number of therapeutic categories, we do not intend to provide a direct generic equivalent to every branded product. Instead, an adequate range of effective, alternative, low cost generic products will be available on the NHS. On the general question of efficacy, I refer my hon. Friend to my reply to the hon. Member for Carmarthen (Dr. Thomas) on 4 December at column 163.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what safeguards there will be for those patients who at present have free prescriptions to ensure that they can still obtain branded products;(2) what safeguards he proposes to protect the position of chronically sick patients who are currently receiving branded drug products following the introduction of the limited list scheme;(3) if he will make it his policy to ensure that the introduction of limited list prescribing does not lead to a system of two-tier medicine in the National Health Service.

We intend to produce a limited list which will cover all clinical needs. In drawing up the final version of this list, we need the help of the medical and pharmaceutical professions and the drugs industry, and we will be discussing the details fully and carefully with them. This consultation will serve to ensure that medicines which are essential for the treatment of particular conditions are not excluded from NHS use.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many firms manufacturing which pharmaceuticals have written to him following his proposal to limit the range of drugs available on prescription from the National Health Service.

Sixteen companies manufacturing drugs likely to be affected by the proposal have written to us.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what proportion of the range of drugs which he proposes to cease being available on National Health Service prescriptions are manufactured in the United Kingdom; and how many are imported;(2) when he proposes to list those pharmaceuticals and inform their manufacturers which will no longer qualify for the National Health Service list of prescribed drugs.

The limited list of drugs in certain therapeutic categories to be used for National Health Service prescribing will not be finalised until after the consultation period ends on 31 January 1985.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what estimate he has made of the number of jobs in the United Kingdom, by company, dependent upon the manufacture of pharmaceuticals he is proposing should cease to be available for prescription by the National Health Service.

I refer the hon. Member to my reply to the hon. Member for Portsmouth, South (Mr. Hancock) on 4 December at column 166.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many representations he has received, and from whom, criticising his decision to reduce the number of drugs available for prescription on the National Health Service.

We have received over 250 letters criticising the proposals in some way. The majority of these have been forwarded by hon. Members on behalf of constituents and represent opinions from the medical and pharmaceutical professions, the pharmaceutical industry and the general public. Many are no more than copies of circular letters put out to all general practitioners by one of the drug companies, Roche Products Ltd.We are also of course receiving letters in support of the proposals, mainly from members of the medical profession.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what proposals he has to discuss with representatives of the medical professions, and trade unions representing employees of manufacturers, his proposals to limit the range and number of drugs that can be obtained by prescription on the National Health Service.

Full and careful consultation is taking place with the pharmaceutical profession. the medical professions and the pharmaceutical industry. My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State and I met with representatives of the British Medical Association yesterday. We have no plans to discuss the proposals with trade unions representing employees in the pharmaceutical industry as we are consulting medical and pharmaceutical opinion to decide on the final contents of a list which will cover all the clinical needs of patients.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many, and which, drugs proposed to be excluded from the list of approved drugs for prescription on the National Health Service contain one or more active ingredients not available on the list of permitted generic drugs.

The drugs to be available on the National Health Service in the categories affected by the limited list proposals will not be finalised until full consultation has taken place. In the meantime it is not possible to identify any active ingredients that will not be available after 1 April 1985.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what assessment he has made of the future export potential of United Kingdom drugs manufacturers whose products will no longer be readily available in the National Health Service following the introduction of limited list prescribing.

We are not aware that exports of drugs will be seriously affected by the limited restrictions we propose to apply to NHS prescribing.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will take steps to invest the National Health Service with total product liability for drugs imported from other countries, following the introduction of limited list prescribing.

No. The Government are discussing with other members of the European Community a draft directive for general product liability, prepared by the European Commission, for application in Member States. The introduction of limited list prescribing does not affect the Government's position on this.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what assessment he has made of the impact of limited list prescribing (a) on the profitability of pharmaceutical companies and (b) on employment in the industry.

The effect of the limited prescribing list proposals on both profits and jobs will depend on the composition of the final list of drugs which may be prescribed and how well companies are able to recoup in other ways sales lost to the National Health Service.

Saturated Fat Consumption

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if Her Majesty's Government accept the conclusion of a recent report by the committee on medical aspects of food policy that consumption of saturated fat should be reduced by 25 per cent.

Yes, and the British Nutrition Foundation/Health Education Council's joint advisory committee on nutrition education is working urgently, at our request, to turn the report's recommendations into practical dietary guidance for families.

Hospital Kitchens (Health And Safety)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what steps he takes to ensure that health and safety standards in hospital kitchens and wards are maintained; and if he will introduce legislation to enable prosecution of hospitals failing to observe such standards.

Health authorities, in common with outside employers, are subject to control and inspection by the inspectorate appointed under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. The Department is also concerned that health and safety standards in NHS hospital kitchens and wards are kept up. We have no reason to believe that health authorities are not carrying out their duties under the Act and we cannot agree on the need for further legislation in these matters.As for food hygiene requirements, I refer the hon. Member to my reply of 29 November to the hon. Member for Manchester, Blackley (Mr. Eastham) at column

576.

Nhs Privatisation (Redundancies)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many ancillary staff employees in the National Health Service have been affected by redundancies since the implementation of privatisation programmes for hospital cleaning, catering and laundry services.

Information about the numbers of redundancies in the National Health Service has not been collected centrally since 31 March 1981. Since 1 April 1984 our Department has recorded centrally those who, because they are aged over 50 with at least five years service, qualify for premature payment of superannuation benefits. Returns for the first six months of 1984–85 show that the number of ancillary staff so qualifying as a result of competitive tendering in domestic, laundry and catering services was 99.

Dental Treatment

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if his Department's working group with which the British Dental Association has been helping to review evidence on the cost-effectiveness and application of fissure sealing has yet completed a full report on its findings; and when it will be published.

The joint working party with the British Dental Association on the effectiveness of fissure sealants has yet to complete its discussions. It is therefore too early to say when its findings will be made public.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many patients have been listed by the National Health Service for dental treatment in 1984; what proportion of those patients had two or more appointments; and how these figures compare with those recorded in 1978 and in each year since 1978.

Family Planning Clinics

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many family planning clinics are in operation throughout the county of Derbyshire.

At the end of 1983, 19 premises were used regularly for family planning sessions in the north Derbyshire and southern Derbyshire health districts.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what steps his Department is taking to ensure adequate financial provision for the continuation of family planning clinics.

We regard family planning as an important element in preventive health care. As the hon. Member knows, substantial resources are already available to health authorities for the improvement of health services over all. It is important, however, that authorities themselves determine their priorities in the light of local needs.

Dental Estimates Board (Computer)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he intends to implement his decision to bring forward the replacement of the computer at the Dental Estimates Board.

Children In Care

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the approximate number of children in care (a) nationally and (b) in the midlands at the latest available date.

The latest information available centrally relates to the position at 31 March 1983, and is as follows:

Children in care
Number
England82,165
West Midlands8,864
East Midlands6,820

Hospital Patients (Financial Assistance)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what financial assistance his Department gives to hospital patients for the purchase of new clothing.

Health authorities are expected to provide clothing for those patients who are unable to provide it from their own resources and who are not obtaining it from any other source.

Mrs J L Garer (Member's Correspondence)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he expects a reply to be sent to the letter sent to the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State (Health) on 18 July by the hon. Member for Falmouth and Camborne concerning Mrs. J. L. Garer, of 123 Falmouth Road, Redruth.

Nhs Treatment (Limitations)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he plans to extend the proposed limitation on treatment available under the National Health Service beyond drug therapy; and whether he is considering limitations on the availability of surgical treatment.

Ec (Social Security Agreements)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what progress is being made on extending reciprocal agreements within the EEC on social security to the non-employed; and if he will make a statement.

We intend, subject to the views of the other European Community member States to renegotiate the bilateral conventions on social security which the United Kingdom has with eight of the other member States, and to negotiate a new convention with Greece. We shall seek to reach agreement with each of the other member States that the conventions should cover insured non-employed people, and other people not covered by the EC social security regulations. A draft text on these lines has been sent to the Republic of Ireland for consideration, and work is proceeding on texts for revised conventions with the Federal Republic of Germany, France and the Netherlands.

Epidural Injections

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many National Health Service hospitals in the London area allow midwives to administer top ups of epidural injections as an anaesthetic during childbirth.

Coal Industry Dispute

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what is the total amount paid to date by his Department as benefits to striking miners in respect of mortgage interest;(2) what is the total cost of housing benefit to striking miners to the most recent available date;(3) what is the maximum any striking miner's family has received in any one week in social security benefit;(4) what is the maximum any striking miner, in any week, has received from social security in respect of mortgage interest.

I regret that the information requested in respect of supplementary benefit could be obtained only at disproportionate cost; and in respect of housing benefit is not available since local authorities have no need to identify separately claims from people involved in a trade dispute.

Health Authorities (Tuc Nominations)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many nominations for health authorities were put forward by the Trades Union Congress during each of the last four years; which unions they were from; and how many of these nominees were appointed, region by region.

The Trades Union Congress, and the managerial professional and staff liaison group, are consulted whenever appointments to health authorities fall due. The further details requested by the hon. Member are not readily available and would in any case be meaningless, since all health authority members are appointed for their personal qualities and not as representatives of particular interests.

Alcohol Consumption

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what action he had taken in response to the findings in the National Advisory Committee on Nutrition Education Report of 1983 concerning the rise in alcohol intake and the increase in alcohol abuse.

The document to which the hon. Member appears to be referring is the discussion paper on proposals for nutritional guidelines for health education in Britain which was prepared for the Health Education Council by the British Nutrition Foundation. The Department continues to maintain a close liaison with the Health Education Council on such matters.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many alcohol-related deaths have occurred in the United Kingdom since 1980 arising from cirrhosis of the liver; what proportion of such deaths were male; and what proportion were female.

The table shows numbers and proportions of male and female deaths from chronic liver disease and cirrhosis registered in the United Kingdom in 1980 to 1983. Figures are shown separately for the numbers of deaths where alcohol was specifically mentioned in the cause of death but total figures are also supplied as some of the additional deaths are also associated with excessive drinking.

Deaths from cirrhosis of the liver: numbers and proportions by sex, 1980 to 1983

Chronic liver disease and cirrhosis

Total (ICD 571)

With mention of alcohol (ICD 571·0–571·3)

M

F

M

F

Numbers

19801,4381,258561357
19811,4591,268611362
19821,4131,232615363
19831,3781,301656416

Proportions (per cent.)

198053·346·761·138·9
198153·546·562·837·2
198253·446·662·937·1
198351·448·661·238·8

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) how many cases of foetal alcohol syndrome have been recorded during the last five years; and what further initiatives he plans to encourage women to refrain from drinking during pregnancy;(2) what studies or surveys he plans to initiate on the appreciation by women of risks and harmful effects of alcoholic consumption during pregnancy; and what step she will be taking to ensure that women receive during pregnancy adequate health education about alcohol consumption.

In my reply to the right hon. Member for Manchester, Wythenshawe (Mr. Morris) on 20 December at column 216 I outlined the Department's advice on this matter and indicated that the Health Education Council, in the light of its expertise in health education, had been invited to join the Department in considering how best to ensure that the state of knowledge can be communicated to those who need it.Two recent Health Education Council publications "That's the Limit—A Guide to Sensible Drinking" and the "Pregnancy Book" contain specific advice on alcohol consumption during pregnancy and the council continues to promote awareness of its advice at both the national and local level.Two research studies on the effectiveness of alcohol education for pregnant women are currently under way and the Department has commissioned a survey on "Women and Drinking" from the Office of Population, Censuses and Surveys which includes specific reference to drinking and pregnancy and which it is hoped will be published in 1985.There are currently no reliable statistics available on the incidence of foetal alcohol syndrome.