Written Answers To Questions
Tuesday 18 December 1984
Attorney-General
Coal Industry Dispute
asked the Attorney-General what consideration he has given to bringing charges against officers of the National Union of Mineworkers for incitement to violence.
Incitement to violence is not a criminal offence, but an incitement by any person to others to commit a specific offence under the Offences against the Person Act 1861, or for them to commit offences against public order, such as riot or affray, renders the inciter liable to the criminal law. Such an offence of incitement is not one which a chief officer of police is bound to report to the Director of Public Prosecutions under the Prosecution of Offences Regulations 1978. However, the Director has had referred to him one case involving an alleged offence of incitement to riot by an officer of the National Union of Mineworkers, but the Director concluded that there was insufficient evidence for him to bring criminal proceedings. I am confident that if any chief officer of police has reason to think that any other offence of this type may have been committed and that there is evidence available which can properly be put before a court, he will refer that evidence to the Director for his consideration.
House Of Commons
Literature (Asian Languages)
asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will ensure that literature, available to the public on entering the Strangers' Gallery, is published in the main Asian languages.
| £ per capita | ||||
| Hospital Services | Community Health and Family Practitioners' Services | Other Services | Total | |
| Clwyd | 146·48 | 76·56 | 13·01 | 236·05 |
| East Dyfed | 161·32 | 81·59 | 17·83 | 241·13 |
| Pembrokeshire | 102·78 | 15·89 | ||
| Gwent | 163·87 | 86·11 | 16·15 | 266·13 |
| Gwynedd | 134·71 | 90·67 | 20·32 | 245·70 |
| Mid Glamorgan | 153·61 | 84·74 | 13·83 | 252·18 |
| Powys | 137·53 | 89·88 | 23·88 | 251·29 |
| South Glamorgan | 259·37 | 86·72 | 25·84 | 371·93 |
| West Glamorgan | 152·00 | 86·66 | 14·22 | 252·88 |
| WALES | 165·22 | 84·65 | 17·14 | 267·01 |
In the absence of significant demand for the "Guide to the Galleries" in Asian languages, I see no need for such provision.
Departmental Select Committees
asked the Lord Privy Seal how many staff were employed within each department during the last session to liaise with a Select Committee; what is the grade of each civil servant; and whether the number employed or their grade has been altered since 1979 to 1983.
[pursuant to his reply, 10 December 1984, c. 367]: Liaison with Departmental Select Committees forms part of the duties of about 50 staff across Departments, ranging in grade from Executive Officer to Grade 3 (formerly Under Secretary). The time each spends on liaison work varies considerably from individual to individual and from Department to Department, depending on the Select Committee concerned and its programme of work. But, taking all Departments together, an estimated 2,300 man days a year are spent specifically on liaison, as distinct from other aspects of select committee work. This represents a small increase on previous years.
Wales
Health Expenditure
asked the Secretary of State for Wales what are the most recent figures for the distribution of health expenditure for each Welsh area expressed in per capita terms and categorised according to (a) hospital services expenditure, (b) community health and family practitioners' services expenditure and (c) total expenditure.
The figures for 1983–84 are:
Pricing Committee.
4. One Family Practitioner Committee covers the area served by the East Dyfed and Pembrokeshire District Health Authorities.
5. The figures do not include expenditure defrayed by the Welsh Health Technical Services Organisation, principally on the central capital programme. This expenditure would add £9·44 to the Wales Hospital Services figure, £2·90 to the Wales Other Services figure and £12·34 to the Wales total figure.
6. The population figures used are the mid-year estimates of home population for 1983 which are the latest available. It is emphasized that the distribution of funds amongst District Health Authorities in Wales reflects teaching hospital costs (South Glamorgan is a teaching authority), differences in expenditure arising from the provision of regional and psychiatric services, the incidence of centrally funded developments and progress towards the equalisation of resources. Equalisation requirements are determined by comparing the relative resource shares of authorities in the previous year with their corresponding shares of the population weighted for such factors as age, sex, variations in mortality and cross-boundary flows of patients. It is therefore not possible to draw reliable conclusions from a straight comparison of per capita expenditure using crude resident population figures.
Education Statistics
asked the Secretary of State for Wales what are the latest estimates of his Department of the numbers and percentages of children of school age attending Welsh medium schools or Welsh units.
In 1983–84, the latest year for which information is available, the number of full-time pupils attending designated bilingual primary and secondary schools was 20,450, 4·3 per cent. of all full-time primary and secondary pupils. These figures do not include pupils attending schools in mainly Welsh speaking areas where although the main medium of instruction is Welsh, the schools have not been formerly designated.
Children (Welsh Speakers)
asked the Secretary of State for Wales what are the latest estimates available to his Department of the numbers and percentage of children under the age of 10 years classified as fluent Welsh speakers.
The available information relates to the numbers of primary school pupils aged five to nine who were assessed as being fluent in Welsh by their headteachers. In 1983–84, the latest year for which information is available, 25,057 pupils were deemed to be fluent Welsh speakers, 15 per cent. of all five to nine-year-old pupils in primary schools.
asked the Secretary of State for Wales what are the latest estimates available to his Department of the numbers and percentage of children in secondary schools in Wales classified as fluent Welsh speakers.
This information is not available centrally.
Conservation (Management Agreements)
asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will list those management agreements concluded in Wales by local authorities, pursuant to the Wildlife and Countryside Act, in respect of countryside outside specially designated areas, listing in each case the cost of such schemes; and if he will make a statement on his policy towards the operation of the Act in Wales.
Information on managements agreements for non-designated areas is not available centrally. The Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 was the first substantial piece of countryside legislation to be introduced in more than a decade and it addresses a wide range of difficult and contentious issues. Apart from defects in the provisions for notification of sites of special scientific interest, which we have acknowledged, the Act has proved well adapted to the situation in Wales and has been instrumental in developing co-operation between landowners, tenants and conservation bodies.
Sites Of Special Scientific Interest
asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will list those sites of special scientific interest in Wales, and specify those which have been damaged or destroyed by pesticides since 1981.
There are 561 sites of special scientific interest in Wales. I will write to the hon. Gentleman with details. The Nature Conservancy Council advise that no notified sites in Wales have been damaged or destroyed by pesticides since 1981.
asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will estimate the expenditure incurred, by county, in Wales on the the management of sites of special scientific interest during each year of operation of the Wildlife and Countryside Act.
The answer is as follows:
| Expenditure under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 | |
| £ | |
| Dyfed | |
| 1984 | 577 |
| Gwent | |
| 1984 | 200 |
| Gwynedd | |
| 1983 | 750 |
| 1984 | 1150 |
| Powys | |
| 1984 | 1160 |
| £ | |
| Dyfedd | |
| 1981 | 810 |
| 1982 | 810 |
| 1983 | 810 |
| 1984 | 810 |
| Gwynedd | |
| 1981 | 2143 |
| 1982 | 2143 |
| 1983 | 2143 |
| 1984 | 2143 |
| Mid Glamorgan | |
| 1981 | 200 |
| 1982 | 200 |
| 1983 | 200 |
£
| |
| 1984 | 200 |
| Powys | |
| 1981 | 841 |
| 1982 | 841 |
| 1983 | 841 |
| 1984 | 841 |
| South Glamorgan | |
| 1981 | 86 |
| 1982 | 86 |
| 1983 | 86 |
| 1984 | 86 |
asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will list, by count, each registered site of special scientific interest in Wales.
There are 561 sites of special scientific interest in Wales. I shall write to the hon. Gentleman with the details.
asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will list those sites of special scientific interest in Wales which have been destroyed or damaged during each year of the operation of the Wildlife and Countryside Act.
The Nature Conservancy Council has identified seven such sites in Wales which have been damaged or destroyed since the provisions of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 came into force. I shall write to the hon. Gentleman with the details.
Acid Rain
asked the Secretary of State for Wales (1) how many miles of Welsh inland waterways have been affected by acid rain;(2) how many (i) rivers and (ii) lakes have been affected by acid rain in Wales.
This information is not available. As my hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State for the Environment announced on 11 December at c. 445 an expert group has been established to assess the extent of acidification of freshwaters in Scotland, England and Wales and the causes of acidification.
Home Helps
asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many home helps per thousand of the population there are at present in Wales.
At 31 September 1984, there were in Wales 1·16 whole-time equivalent home helps per thousand population.
Wildlife And Countryside Act 1981
asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will estimate the expenditure incurred, by county, in Wales on the operation of the Wildlife and Countryside Act during each year of its operation.
I regret that this information is not available.
National Parks
asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will make a statement on the powers available to national park authorities to prevent damaging development in the areas over which they have jurisdiction.
National park authorities have a number of powers available. They operate as the local planning authority for the area under their jurisdiction; they have the power under Section 39 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 to enter into management agreements with owners and occupiers of land within their area for the purpose of conserving or enhancing the natural beauty or amenity of the countryside; and they have the opportunity in advance of the work being carried out to object to applications upon which it is intended to claim grant under the agricultural and horticultural development and agricultural and horticultural grant schemes and to have their objections considered by the appropriate Minister, in Wales the Secretary of State.
Prime Minister
Ministerial Drivers
Q19.
asked the Prime Minister what instructions are given to the drivers of Ministers' cars regarding their driving practices.
I have been asked to reply.It is not the practice to publish details of the instructions given to ministerial drivers.
Hms Conqueror
Q22.
asked the Prime Minister whether the record of signals sent by Fleet headquarters, Northwood, to HMS Conqueror and received from HMS Conqueror by Fleet headquarters, Northwood, in April to July 1982, has been retained.
I have been asked to reply.I refer the hon. Gentleman to the answers given to him by my right hon. Friend the Minister of State for the Armed Forces on 6 December, and to the letter of my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister to the hon. Gentleman of 23 November.
Coal Industry Dispute
Q25.
asked the Prime Minister if she will arrange to meet Mr. Arthur Scargill to discuss the mining dispute.
I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend the Prime Minister has no such plans. No one wishes more than this Government to see the industry return to normal working. The NUM leadership however has yet to show that it really wishes to achieve a constructive negotiated settlement.
Strathkelvin
Q76.
asked the Prime Minister if she has any plans to pay an official visit to Strathkelvin.
I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend has at present no plans to do so.
Leith
Q82.
asked the Prime Minister if she will pay an official visit to Leith.
I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend has at present no plans to do so.
Engagements
asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for 18 December.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 18 December.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 18 December.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 18 December.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 18 December.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 18 December.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 18 December.
I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend is paying an official visit to the People's Republic of China.
London-New York (Air Travel)
asked the Prime Minister if she will give an estimate of the cost of all air fares paid for by Her Majesty's Government in 1983 for journeys between London and New York.
The cost of air fares paid for by Her Majesty's Government in 1983 for journeys between London and New York is of the order of £60,000. I regret that a more precise figure could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.
asked the Prime Minister how much money would have been saved if each flight paid for by Her Majesty's Government between London and New York in 1983 had been booked (a) with the British commercial carrier offering the lowest price at the time each flight was made, and (b) with the British commercial carrier currently offering the lowest price.
I regret that the information requested could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.
asked the Prime Minister what is Her Majesty's Government's current policy regarding the choice of carrier for flights paid for by Her Majesty's Government between London and New York.
Her Majesty's Government policy is to require Ministers and civil servants to travel by British airlines on all official journeys overseas by air, unless to do so would impose unreasonable delay or would otherwise not be in the public interest.
Departmental Policy Reviews
asked the Prime Minister how many policy reviews have been announced by Government Departments since June 1983; how many such reviews have been completed to date; how many management consultants have been retained by Government Departments since June 1983; and at what total cost to date.
I have been asked to reply.I shall reply to the hon. Member shortly.
Energy
Coal Industry Dispute
asked the Secretary of State for Energy what recent representations he has received from industry urging that energy prices to industry should not be increased to cover increased costs to the energy supply industries arising from the miners' strike.
I have received a number of representations from trade associations and individual firms expressing their concern that the miners' strike might lead to higher electricity prices. I have informed these organisations that no decisions have been taken on how the costs arising from the strike will be met.
Plutonium
asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will provide information on the end-use of plutonium produced in Britain in the last year.
I can confirm that no plutonium derived from CEGB or SSEB power stations has been used other than for civil purposes in the last year; and, that Her Majesty's Government's policy in this area remains as given by my hon. Friend the Member for Croydon, Central (Mr. Moore) in answer to a question from my hon. Friend the Member for Bedfordshire, North (Mr. Skeet) on 4 February 1983, at column 206.
asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will publish a record of the amount of plutonium produced at Wylfa during the first three years of its existence.
I have nothing to add to the answer given by my hon. Friend the Member for Croydon, Central (Mr. Moore) to my hon. Friend the Member for Bedfordshire, North (Mr. Skeet) on 9 March 1983, at column 401.
Nuclear Reactors (Safeguards)
asked the Secretary of State for Energy (1) if he will list the Central Electricity Generating Board power stations which are under International Atomic Energy Agency safeguards;(2) if he will list the nuclear reactors in the United Kingdom which are under International Atomic Energy Agency safeguards.
The nuclear reactors in the United Kingdom, including those contained in CEGB and SSEB power stations, which are included in the list of facilities subject to the UK-Euratom-IAEA safeguards agreement are as follows: Central Electricity Generating board
- Bradwell Nuclear Power Station
- Berkeley Nuclear Power station
- Dungeness 'A' Nuclear Power Station
- Dungeness 'B' Nuclear Power Station
- Hartlepool Nuclear Power Station
- Heysham I Nuclear Power Station
- Hinkley Point 'A' Nuclear Power Station
- Hinkley Point 'B' Nuclear Power Station
- Oldbury Nuclear Power Station
- Sizewell 'A' Nuclear Power Station
- Trawsfynydd Nuclear Power Station
- Wylfa Nuclear Power Station
- Berkeley Nuclear labs zero energy research reactor
South of Scotland Electricity Board
- Hunterston 'A' Nuclear Power Station
- Hunterston 'B' Nuclear Power Station
Civil Research Reactors
- University of Strathclyde: Scottish Universities research
- reactor, East Kilbride
- Imperial College: Consort research reactor, Ascot
- Universities Research Reactor, Risley
- Imperial Chemical Industries: triga reactor, Billingham
United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority Atomic Energy Establishment Winfrith
- Zero Energy Breeder Reactor (ZEBRA)
- Steam Generating Heavy Water Reactor (SGHWR)
- Nestor
- Dimple
- Hector
Dounreay Nuclear Power Development Establishment
- Prototype Fast Reactor (PFR)
Atomic Energy Research Establishment Harwell
- Materials Test Reactor (Pluto)
- Graphite Low Energy Experimental Pile (Gleep)
Under article 78(A) of the UK-Euratom-IAEA safeguards agreement it is up to the IAEA to designate from this list those facilities which it wishes to inspect. On this subject I would refer the hon. Member to my reply to his question on 3 December, at columns 23–24.
Nuclear Waste
asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will estimate how much nuclear waste is likely to be produced in the United Kingdom by the year 2000; and if he will indicate separately the quantities of high, intermediate and low-level wastes that will need to be accommodated.
I have been asked to reply.The cumulative volumes of radioactive wastes likely to exist by the year 2000 are:
| Number | |
| High activity wastes | 4,300 m3 |
| Intermediate activity wastes | 90,000 m3 |
| Low activity wastes | 500,000 m3 |
3 ) from the production and use of radioisotopes for medical and industrial purposes and from other miscellaneous activities.
Home Department
Plastic Baton Rounds
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what instructions concerning the use of plastic baton rounds in England and Wales are currently in force.
I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given to a question from the hon. Member for Liverpool, Riverside (Mr. Parry) on 7 December, at columns 306–7.
Finnimore Wood Youth Custody Centre
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) whether he will order an inquiry into the running of Finnimore Wood youth custody centre;(2) what representations he has received from the Prison Officers Association concerning events at Finnimore Wood youth custody centre;(3) whether he is satisfied with the recruitment and supervision of teachers in Finnimore Wood youth custody centre.
At recent meetings with the prison department the Prison Officers Association made a number of assertions about misbehaviour by inmates at Finnimore Wood youth custody centre, and these are being fully investigated. We are satisfied with the recruitment and supervision of teachers at the establishment: the question of prison officer manning while evening education is taking place is under consideration.
Coal Industry Dispute
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many of those individuals charged with offences arising out of the current miners' dispute have been office holders of the National Union of Mineworkers; and with what offences they were charged.
This information is not readily available.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will give a breakdown by police force of the number of days of sick leave which serving police officers have been forced to take as a result of injuries sustained during the course of the miners' dispute.
The information requested is not available centrally and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will give a breakdown by degree of seriousness and by police force of injuries sustained by serving police officers during the course of the current miners' dispute which have so far been brought to his attention.
The information available centrally relates to the police force area in which injuries were sustained, rather than to the police forces from which the officers came, and does not distinguish between serious and less serious injuries. During the period 13 March to 13 December inclusive, the number of injuries was as follows:
| Police force area | Number of injuries |
| Cleveland | 2 |
| Derbyshire | 243 |
| Durham | 43 |
| Dyfed-Powys | 4 |
| Essex | 7 |
| Greater Manchester | 13 |
Police force area
| Number of injuries
|
| Gwent | 3 |
| Humberside | 2 |
| Kent | 64 |
| Lancashire | 1 |
| Merseyside | 4 |
| Metropolitan | 4 |
| Northumbria | 37 |
| North Wales | 1 |
| North Yorkshire | 14 |
| Nottinghamshire | 130 |
| South Wales | 40 |
| South Yorkshire | 335 |
| Staffordshire | 18 |
| Sussex | 2 |
| Thames Valley | 2 |
| Warwickshire | 2 |
| West Yorkshire | 290 |
| TOTAL | 1,261 |
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will give a breakdown by type of offence for which charges have been brought following incidents which have taken place in the course of the current miners' dispute, stating in each category (a) the total number of charges brought, (b) the number of individuals charged, (c) the number of cases tried, (d) the number of convictions made and (e) the number of custodial sentences which resulted.
The information available centrally relates to the period from 13 March to 11 December inclusive, for which I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to a question from the hon. Member for Dunfermline, East (Mr. Brown) on 14 December, at column 638. The total number of immediate custodial sentences imposed during that period, including sentences to youth custody or detention in a detention centre, imposed during that period was 118.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what has been the total additional cost to date of policing the miners' dispute in south Wales which has been borne by local authority expenditure; and what is the extent to which this additional expenditure, by local authority, will attract overspending penalty.
I understand that up to 31 October the additional costs to the South Wales police authority resulting from the policing of the miners' dispute in the police area were some £370,000, 50 per cent. of which will be met by police grant from the Home Office. My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Wales has announced that additional costs resulting from the policing of the dispute will be disregarded for grant holdback purposes.
Drugs Offences
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) how many people in Wales have so far this year been convicted of crimes associated with the possession of heroin or similar drugs;(2) how many people in Wales in 1983–84 were convicted of drug-related offences.
The latest available information relates to 1983, when 1,110 persons were found guilty in Wales of offences under drugs legislation or of other offences involving controlled drugs, 92 of whom were found guilty of offences involving class A drugs, as defined in the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971. Corresponding statistics for 1984 will be published next summer.
Sports Sponsorship
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will introduce legislation to ban the broadcasting on any television channel of programmes about sports events sponsored by tobacco companies.
My right hon. and learned Friend has no plans to do so.
Departmental Staff
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) what is the identity of the assistant secretary in his Department referred to by Lord Donaldson, Master of the Rolls, in Findlay v. Secretary of State for Home Affairs as having sworn an affidavit, the tenor of which was described as untrue;(2) whether any disciplinary action has been taken against the assistant secretary in the Home Department referred to by Lord Donaldson, Master of the Rolls, in Findlay
v. Secretary of State for Home Affairs as having sworn an affidavit which was described as untrue.
The affidavit in question was sworn by Mr. A. H. Turney, an assistant secretary in my Department, and was a true statement. It was sworn in the context of evidence already before the court that, as I had announced to Parliament in my statement of 30 November 1983, at columns 513–15, four life sentence prisoners had before that date been moved from open to closed prisons because their release in the relatively near future would not have accorded with my view of the gravity of their offences. It was intended not to qualify that evidence in any way, but to explain that a move to open prison, especially without a provisional release date, does not import any commitment to release a life sentence prisoner. I recognise that there may have been some ambiguity, which I regret, in the wording both of my statement and of the affidavit; but the matter was elucidated by counsel to the satisfaction of the court. No question of disciplinary action against Mr. Turney arises.
"Drinking Sensibly"
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many copies of the Department of Health and Social Security leaflet, "Drinking Sensibly", are now in circulation; and what response has been received therefrom to date.
I have been asked to reply.The initial 5,000 published copies of "Drinking Sensibly"
* have all been distributed and a further reprint of 2,500 copies took place in 1983. More than 1,000 copies were distributed to professional, voluntary and other organisations concerned in combating alcohol misuse. The purpose of this discussion document is to provide facts and present issues to help clarify public debate rather than to invite correspondence. Responses include the use made of the material in press articles and day conferences and some letters.
* Prevention and Health: Drinking Sensibly a discussion document prepared by the Health Department of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Elections (Impersonation)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will provide details of (a) the number of offences reported and (b) the number of prosecutions for voting more than once in the general elections of 1983, 1979 and 1974 in (i) Northern Ireland and (ii) Great Britain.
[pursuant to his reply, 26 November 1984, c. 349]: Further to the information given on 13 December, at column 567, in respect of England and Wales, I understand from my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland that the following information for Scotland does not distinguish offences of personation from other voting offences nor offences committed at a general election from those committed at by-elections or local elections.
| Crimes against the Representation of the People Act 1949 and 1983 recorded by the police and persons subsequently proceeded against for those offences in Scotland | ||
| Year | Offences reported | Persons proceeded against |
| 1974 | 10 | 1 |
| 1979 | 3 | 3 |
| 1983 | 1 | *8 |
| * Eight persons involved in one offence. | ||
Longmoor Base, Hampshire
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will call for a report from the chief constable of Hampshire police as to how many persons have been arrested by the police at demonstrations outside and inside Longmoor camp and on which days; and how many were charged.
[pursuant to his reply, 22 November 1984, c. 264]: My right hon. and learned Friend has now received and considered a report from the chief constable. The chief constable reports that one person was arrested by the police outside military land on 16 November, and that 25 people were arrested by the police inside military land on 17 November. None has yet been charged.
Scotland
New Towns
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when the report of the working party on the transfer of housing in Scottish new towns will be completed; and if he will make a statement.
The working party completed its report this summer. Printing difficulties delayed its publication but it is now available. I am arranging for copies to be sent to Scottish Members with new towns in their constituencies and to have a copy deposited in the Library. The working party included representatives of the Industry Department for Scotland, the new town development corporations and the district councils, nominated by the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities. The working party's terms of reference were to devise a model scheme for the transfer of rented housing owned by Scottish new town development corporations to the district councils for their areas. The scheme was to be applicable, with adjustments, to all five new towns when the wind-up process for each development corporation began. The working party was asked to take account of a number of factors, ranging from the financial implications of transfer to the possible need for legislation.I welcome the working party's report which will be of considerable practical value when the time comes to begin the transfer process. This will not occur until a development corporation has begun to be wound up and as I announced on 14 November that wind-up will not begin before April 1990. In the meantime the working party has suggested that development corporations and district councils may be able to ease the eventual transfer process by taking preparatory steps in advance. These would include moving towards a common approach on rental structures, and in general matters of policy and administration where this is not already the case. The working party has also made a number of recommendations for legislation. We will be considering these carefully, with a view to ensuring that any necessary legislative provision is made in good time.
Nursery Education
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement about Government policy concerning the benefits of providing and receiving nursery education.
Nursery education has to be seen in the context of other kinds of provision, including voluntary provision, for pre-school children. My Department is now carrying out a national study of provision for under-sixes. When the report of the study becomes available, we shall consider the policy implications for nursery education.
Pre-School Children
asked the Secretary of Slate for Scotland what forecast his Department has made of the likely number of pre-school children in the foreseeable future.
A projection of the population of Scotland for the period 1983 to 2023 has recently been prepared by the Government Actuary in consultation with the Registrar General. A summary of the results including the projected numbers of children aged nought to four years was published in the Registrar General for Scotland's "Vital Statistics Return for Weeks 37 to 40, 1984", a copy of which is in the Library. A brief summary of the assumptions underlying the projection is also shown.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is his estimate of the number of pre-school children in Dundee and Scotland in each of the next three years; and what are the current figures.
The Registrar General makes estimates of population each year for the immediately preceding year. The current estimate is that for 1983. Projections of population over the succeeding years are made biennally by the Government Actuary in consultation with the Registrar General and are based on the most recent estimates available. The 1983 estimate and the latest projected population of children aged nought to four years in Scotland for the years to 1987 are shown in the table. A consistent projection for Dundee is not yet available. The previous projection for both Scotland and Dundee, based on the 1981 estimate, is also shown in the table. The 1983 based projection assumes a slower rise in fertility, following analysis of recent trends. Also the 1983 population base takes account of information from the 1981 Census of Population which was not available at the time of fixing the 1981 base and this obscures comparison between the two projections.
| Projected population aged 0–4, Scotland, Dundee | ||||
| ('000) | ||||
| 1983 based | 1981 based | |||
| Scotland | Dundee | Scotland | Dundee | |
| 1983 | *328 | *10·6 | 325 | 10·7 |
| 1984 | 327 | na | 328 | 10·8 |
| 1985 | 324 | na | 331 | 11·0 |
| 1986 | 322 | na | 335 | 11·0 |
| 1987 | 323 | na | 342 | 11·3 |
| * Estimated population for 30 June 1983 | ||||
Council House Sales
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish a table showing, for Scotland, the gross receipts from selling council houses under the right-to-buy policy for the years 1979–80 to the latest available year.
Receipts from the sale of council houses sold under the right to buy provisions of the Tenants' Rights Etc. (Scotland) Act 1980 cannot be separately identified in the returns submitted by local authorities. The following table shows the gross receipts which have accrued to district and islands councils from all sales of houses held on their housing revenue accounts —including sales to sitting tenants under voluntary sales policies and sales of vacant houses:—
| Gross Receipts from sales of Council Houses held on District and Islands Councils' Housing Revenue Accounts | |
| Year | Gross Receipts (£ million) |
| 1979–80 | 5·807 |
| 1980–81 | 19·609 |
| 1981–82 | 62·170 |
| 1982–83 | 103·338 |
| 1983–84 | 123·034 |
| 1984–85 | *116·239 |
| * Estimate | |
Health Boards (Ancillary Services)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many Scottish health boards will meet the timetable set by him in June of obtaining tenders for ancillary services by 31 December.
Health boards have been asked to report by April 1985 progress made with testing the cost-effectiveness of their support services.
Parole
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he has any proposals for changing the parole arrangements in Scotland.
I share the public concern about the level of violent crime and of drug trafficking, and, in order to reinforce the deterrent effect of the longer sentences of imprisonment for such offences, I have made clear to the Parole Board for Scotland that I would be reluctant to exercise my discretion so as to authorise early release of a prisoner who is serving a sentence of more than five years for such offences any more than a few months before he would otherwise be released, except in cases where the circumstances are exceptional. I have, however, assured the Parole Board for Scotland that it will continue to see all the cases that it has hitherto scrutinised, following the initial review by the local review committees, so that the board will have the opportunity to bring to my attention in any such case circumstances which in its view are exceptional. The parole board recognises that it is for me, under the statute, to decide whether to accept or reject a recommendation by the parole board.The release on licence of life sentences prisoners is at my discretion, subject to a favourable recommendation by the Parole Board for Scotland and to consultation with the Lord Justice General and (if he is available) the trial judge. While I am satisfied that the safety of the public has always been, and will continue to be, a paramount consideration for the Parole Board for Scotland as it is for myself, I am concerned to emphasise the deterrent effect of sentences of life imprisonment, especially those for the murders of police officers, murders by terrorists, sexual or sadistic murders of children or murders committed by firearm in the commission of crime. Accordingly I have made clear to the Parole Board for Scotland that only in exceptional circumstances would I feel that release earlier than 20 years would be appropriate for a prisoner sentenced to life imprisonment for such a crime; and indeed there will be cases where the gravity of the offence requires a still longer period; the same may apply to other murders. I do not, however, propose to make any changes in the procedures for the consideration for release of life sentence prisoners in Scotland, including those of the preliminary review committee which I introduced in 1980, which in my view sufficiently provide for me to obtain an initial judicial view on the requirements of retribution and deterrence, in addition to the later consultation for which statute provides. I have consulted the Lord Justice General in this matter, and have ascertained that he also is content with the present arrangements. I am, however, concerned that the Parole Board for Scotland should continue to see all those cases which would hitherto have been referred to it, so that it may have the opportunity of bringing to my attention any circumstances which it considers to be exceptional.In forming my views on these matters, I have taken into account my discussion of them with the Parole Board for Scotland. I should add that they will not affect any case of a life sentence prisoner to whom a provisional release date has already been intimated, nor any determinate sentence prisoner concerning whom the parole board had made recommendations to me before my discussion with them. I am glad to have this opportunity to repeat that I have the highest regard for the assiduity with which the parole board undertakes its difficult task and the care with which it examines each individual case on its merits.I have also considered most carefully whether there is a need, in Scotland, to reduce the minimum qualifying period for parole to a shorter period (it is now six months in England and Wales). I have decided not to do this. Our parole system in Scotland has developed along distinctive lines, and I am not aware of any general dissatisfaction in Scotland about the range of inmates who are covered by the parole scheme. In particular, I do not think that the additional resources that would be required, especially by regional social work departments to provide supervision for short periods of parole, could be justified. I am, however, concerned about the number of persons serving short terms of imprisonment for fines default. I am impressed by the results of the fines enforcement officer schemes in Airdrie and Edinburgh and now propose to extend the scheme on a more permanent basis to other sheriff courts in Scotland in order to assist those for whom the court regards a fine as the appropriate disposal to satisfy the sentence without being subjected to imprisonment.
Local Government Expenditure
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what changes he proposes in the system for the control of local authority capital expenditure.
I am broadly satisfied with the operation of the local authority capital control system in Scotland, but I propose two modest changes which will lead to more flexible management of the local authority capital cash blocks Scottish Office—local authority 1 and Scottish Office—local authority 2. At present my Department can carry forward to the following year an underspend on either cash block up to a maximum of 2 per cent. of the appropriate cash limit; in future the maximum will be 5 per cent. Furthermore if it appears that an overspend is likely on either block I will refrain from taking any mid-year corrective action unless the probable outturn looks like exceeding 105 per cent. of the appropriate cash limit.
The Arts
European Music Year
asked the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State answering in respect of Arts how Her Majesty's Government intend to mark European Music Year, other than on the European Day of Music itself, as outlined by the Prime Minister in her reply of 5 December.
My right hon. and noble Friend is to give a reception to mark the opening of the Handel festival in July. Arrangements for the festival, and for many other events to be held during the year, are in the hands of the European Music Year (UK) Committee.
Environment
Housing Public Expenditure Programme
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will provide a breakdown of the housing public expenditure programme for 1985–86.
Following discussions with the local authority associations at the Housing Consultative Council on 30 November and with the Chairman of the Housing Corporation, I am able to announce decisions on housing capital and current expenditure for 1985–86.Total provision for housing capital expenditure in 1985–86, including forecast housing capital receipts next year of £1,731 million, is £3,055 million. I have decided to allocate those resources as follows:
| £ million | |
| Local authorities | 2,324 |
| Housing Corporation | 685 |
| New Towns | 43 |
| Home Loan | 3 |
500.
My right hon. Friend is announcing separately today the arrangements for local authority capital programmes in 1985–86 including proposed changes in the prescribed proportions of capital receipts and other measures to reduce the risk of overspending the cash limit.
The HIP allocation total for 1985–86 is £1,600 million. Authorities will be able to reinvest their capital receipts, albeit at the reduced prescribed proportions. On the basis of our forecasts, authorities will be able to undertake at least an extra £325 million of investment in addition to their HIP allocations, from receipts arising in 1985–86. I have discussed with the local authority associations the method of distributing that total between individual authorities. Each authority will be informed shortly of its allocation.
As regards housing current expenditure, I have considered carefully the views of the local authority associations on the consultation papers which I issued on reckonable income and on reckonable expenditure on management and maintenance for 1985–86.
I have decided to determine an increase in the local contribution for housing subsidy purposes of 60p a dwelling a week. It is for authorities themselves to decide how to finance that contribution. On management and maintenance, I have decided to increase the expenditure counting towards the subsidy calculation by 4 per cent. over the level assumed for 1984–85.
Sellafield (Discharges)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what measures are being taken to reduce liquid discharges of radioactivity from Sellafield.
The radiochemical inspectorate of my Department, jointly with the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, has already put forward formal proposals for a variation of the authorisation under the Radioactive Substances Act 1960, so that the limits will reflect the substantial reductions in actual discharges that have been achieved in the past few years and place extra controls on the amounts discharged over short periods, and on solvent and particulates. This variation, which also contains a formal requirement that the best practicable means must be used to limit discharges, is expected to come into force early in the New Year.The site ion exchange plant, constructed at a cost of £130 million, will come into operation next year and will make possible a further reduction in discharge of caesium, to one tenth of the maximum released in recent years. The new salt evaporator, also due to come into operation next year at a cost of £30 million, will make possible a parallel reduction in dischargess of plutonium and other alpha emitters, to about 200 curies a year. Formal proposals to replace the existing authorisation by a new and more stringent one will be put forward by the authorising Departments next year, and the opportunity will also be taken to set specific limits on a much larger number of individual radionuclides. The local authorities will be consulted about the new draft authorisation, as will the water and health authorities, and sea fisheries committees.Beyond that, the achievement of a further significant reduction on a continuing basis depends on the construction of major new treatment plant. The Government, after a review of the options in consultation with the company, has approved the company's proposal to build a floc precipitation plant, costing £150 million, which would be in operation by 1991. The target is to reduce discharges to less than 20 curies a year of alpha activity and about 8,000 curies a year of beta/gamma activity (other than tritium). The latter figure is below the level currently achieved by the only plant in any way comparable, the newer French reprocessing plant at Cap de la Hague, and the alpha figure is approximately equal to the current figure for that plant. These figures include an allowance for the new reprocessing plant for oxide fuel. Further reductions will be obtained when the present reprocessing plant for magnox fuel goes out of operation in the early years of the next century. At that time the targets will be to reduce discharges to not more than 5 curies a year of alpha activity and not more than 2,000 curies a year of beta/gamma activity (other than tritium).This programme of measures complies with the recommendation of the Paris commission on the prevention of pollution from land-based sources that contracting parties should take account of the best available technology at nuclear reprocessing plants, in order to minimise radioactive discharges to the marine environment. The Radioactive Waste Management Advisory Committee has confirmed that, in its view, this programme takes full account of all the scientific evidence, and is consistent with the United Kingdom's policy objectives for radioactive waste management, particularly the objective of reducing discharges to the lowest reasonably practicable. The estimated annual radiation dose to the small critical group of people eating large amounts of fish and shellfish will be reduced to well below 10 per cent. of the limit recommended by the International Commission on Radiological Protection, as compared with 54 per cent. in 1982.The two authorising Departments plan to review the authorisation every three years, in line with a recommendation in the Black report. For the purposes of such reviews, they will draw upon the results from an expanded programme of environmental monitoring they have now required BNFL to carry out as from January 1985, as well as their own check monitoring and relevant research. They will also take full account of advice on the health aspects of discharges, and my right hon. Friend the Minister for Health is considering, in the light of the Black report, how such advice can be best provided.
Metropolitan County Enterprise Boards
72.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what assessment he has made of the contribution to job creation and maintenance by the various metropolitan county enterprise boards; and if he will make a statement.
73.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what assessment he has made of the contribution of job creation and maintenance by the various metropolitan county enterprise boards; and if he will make a statement.
74.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what recent assessment he has made of the contribution by the Greater Manchester Economic Development Corporation Limited towards employment creation in Greater Manchester; and if he will make a statement.
The establishment of enterprise boards and similar bodies is one means by which local authorities can make a contribution to local economic development. It is for the councils concerned to satisfy themselves as to its worth.
Rates
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he now expects to issue the consultation paper on the valuation of domestic properties for rating purposes.
I refer the hon. Member to the answer given by my hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State, the Member for Bristol, West (Mr. Waldegrave) to the hon. Member for Birmingham, Perry Barr (Mr. Rooker) on 22 October at c. 491.
Sports Sponsorship
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how much sponsorship money sport receives from the tobacco industry; and if he will make a statement.
Under the voluntary agreement on sponsorship of sport by tobacco companies in the United Kingdom the industry informs my Department of its expenditure on sports sponsorship in confidence. I cannot therefore make the information available. However, the agreement restricts companies' expenditure to the 1976 level with due allowance for inflation.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how much additional money sport receives from sponsorhip from non-govermental sponsors, other than the tobacco industry; and if he will make a statement.
This information is not available. However, the Sports Council has estimated that sport received about £100 million last year in sponsorship from all sources.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what information he has about the number of sporting events which were sponsored in 1983 and the number which were sponsored by the tobacco industry; and if he will make a statement.
Information on events sponsored by the tobacco industry is supplied to my Department in confidence by the industry. I cannot therefore make that information available. The further information sought is also unavailable.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will consult the medical profession before considering any renewal of the voluntary agreement with the tobacco industry on the sponsorship of sport; and if he will make a statement.
The British Medical Association has recently asked to discuss sports sponsorship by the tobacco industry and the voluntary agreement with my right hon. Friend. As the Minister responsible for the agreement, I shall be pleased to meet a delegation from the BMA and hear at first hand their views. I shall, of course, take these into account when considering the voluntary agreement, which stands until at least 31 December 1985.
Prefabricated Reinforced Concrete Dwellings
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what progress has been made in discussions between his Department and the National House Building Council in respect of establishing agreed standards of repairs to the various types of prefabricated reinforced concrete dwellings designated under the Housing Defects Act 1984.
Discussions are continuing. I will reply fully to my hon. Friend as soon as possible.
London (Housing)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) what information he has as to how many London boroughs operate special lettings schemes for key workers and for people with priority on medical grounds in the allocation of their housing stock;(2) what information he has to which London boroughs operate a special housing register for engaged couples and for those who do not qualify for rehousing because they do not meet residence qualifications;(3) what information he has to the proportion of applicants on housing waiting lists in inner London who require bedsits and as to what proportion need two or more bedrooms.
I would refer the hon. Member to my answer to him about London waiting lists on 6 December 1984 at column 238.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what response he has made to the recent report by Shelter Housing Aid Centre, the London Housing Aid Centre, a copy of which has been sent to him, in respect of the employment impact of a programme to tackle London's housing problems.
I have nothing to add to my answer to the hon. Member on 10 December at column 392.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is his estimate of how many new jobs would be created (a) in the construction industry and (b) in the wider economy for each additional 1,000 new houses built and for each additional 1,000 major renovations in the public and in the private sectors.
The information specifically requested for these building activities is not available.
Squatting
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what evidence he has of the extent of uncontrolled squatting in council dwellings in London.
This is a matter for the local authorities which own the dwellings.
Fire Service, London
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what was the basis on which he determined the 1984–85 grant related expenditure for the fire service in London.
Grant related expenditure for the fire service is calculated on the basis of a single national formula for all authorities comprising the following factors: population, total area, density of settlement, the average number of fire calls in 1981 and 1982, and the area of high fire risk, with adjustments for higher labour costs in and around London and special costs for the Isles of Scilly.
Asbestos Cement
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the policy of the Property Services Agency about safety aspects relating to the use of asbestos cement in the refurbishing of public buildings.
I shall answer this question shortly.
Block Grant Entitlements
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish for each authority designated under the Rates Act 1984 the estimated block grant entitlements he has taken into account in determining the provisional maximum rate; and what are (i) the assumptions made about that authority's expenditure in 1985–86 and (ii) the assumptions made about all non-designated authorities' expenditure in 1985–86, in determining that grant entitlement.
[pursuant to his reply, 17 December 1984]: The calculation of the proposed maximum rate or precept for each designated authority includes the block grant I estimate will become payable to the authority, including any receipts from the London rate equalisation scheme where appropriate. It assumes that the same figure (in cash) as in 1984–85 will be disregarded for the purposes of implementing grant penalties in 1985–86. It makes no allowance for close-ending of block grant.
Rates Act 1984
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many letters he has received since 17 January concerning the provisions of the Rates Act 1984 from people living in the designated authorities, indicating how many letters have come from people in each constituency covered wholly or in part by the 18 authorities.
[pursuant to his reply, 17 December 1984]: The number of letters received in respect of each of the selected authorities is as follows:
| Number of letters received | |
| Basildon | 3 |
| Brent | 5 |
| Camden | 34 |
| GLC | — |
| Greenwich | 5 |
| Hackney | 3 |
| Haringey | 16 |
| ILEA | 1,115 |
| Islington | 16 |
| Lambeth | 9 |
| Leicester | 6 |
| Lewisham | 4 |
| Merseyside | — |
| Portsmouth | 1 |
| Sheffield | 33 |
| Southwark | 3 |
| South Yorkshire | 91 |
| Thamesdown | 2 |
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish for each authority designated under the Rates Act 1984 the assumptions he has made in respect of (i) exclusive penny rate products, (ii) expenditure for 1983–84 and 1984–85, (iii) rate fund revenue balances, (iv) special fund balances, (v) capital fund balances, (vi) (a) trading account balances in respect
| Unit | Location | Officers | Soldiers | ||||||||||||
| Major | Capt. | Lt. | 2/Lt. | Total | WOI | WOII | S/Sgt. | Sgt. | Cpl. | L/Cpl. | Private | Total | Totals | ||
| C (Cheshire Yeomanry) Squadron, The Queen's Own Yeomanry | Chester | 1 | 2 | 4 | 2 | 9 | — | 1 | 2 | 13 | 24 | 26 | 67 | 133 | 142 |
| 80 (Cheshire Yeomanry) Signals Squadron, 33rd (Lancashire and Cheshire) Signals Regiment (Volunteers) | Chester | 1 | 7 | 4 | 2 | 14 | — | 2 | 4 | 14 | 19 | 24 | 63 | 126 | 140 |
| Headquarters 42nd Infantry Brigade | Chester | 1 | — | — | — | 1 | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | 1 |
| Detachment B Company, 2nd Battalion Mercian Volunteers | Crewe | — | — | — | 1 | 1 | — | — | — | 2 | 1 | 3 | 30 | 36 | 37 |
| C Company, 2nd Battalion Mercian Volunteers | Ellesmere Port* | — | 1 | 2 | — | 3 | — | 1 | 2 | 6 | 11 | 6 | 98 | 124 | 127 |
| Battalion Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 5th/8th (Volunteer) Battalion The Kings Regiment | Warrington | 5 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 10 | — | 7 | 3 | 16 | 14 | 18 | 38 | 96 | 106 |
| D company, 5th/8th (Volunteer) Battalion The Kings Regiment | Waxrington | — | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | — | 1 | 1 | 2 | 8 | 7 | 63 | 82 | 85 |
| The North West Infantry Band (TAVR) (KINGS) | Warrington | — | — | — | — | — | 1 | — | 1 | 2 | 2 | 4 | 17 | 27 | 27 |
of public transport and (b) other trading account balances, (vii) housing revenue account balances and (viii) balances of other funds and other credit balances excluding those in respect of liabilities, capital discharged and capital receipts, in determining their provisional maximum rates.
[Pursuant to his reply, December 1984]: Where information requested by me for the purpose of exercising my powers under Part I of the rates Act 1984 was not furnished by a designated authority, I have made such assumptions about matters relevant to the calculation of their proposed rate or precept limit as I have thought appropriate, as I am empowered to do under section 8(1) of the Act. I have also taken into account relevant financial returns made by each authority to my Department, any additional information supplied to me by authorities and further informtion available to me. Authorities have been informed that they have until 15 January, 1985 to comment on the rate or precept limit proposed.
St George's Hall, Liverpool
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what recent action his Department has taken to secure the future of St. George's hall, Liverpool.
Further to my right hon. Friend the Minister for Local Government's answer to the hon. Member for Liverpool West Derby on 22 November 1984 my officials are meeting Liverpool City Council today to discuss what progress the Council has made. [Vol. 68, c. 282.]
Defence
Territorial Army
asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) if he will give a breakdown by rank of the numbers of individuals serving in each regiment within the Territorial Army in Cheshire;(2) if he will list in the
Official Report those units of the Territorial Army and their respective strengths which are based in Cheshire.
A breakdown by rank of the number of individuals serving in each Territorial Army unit based in Cheshire, together with the respective strengths of those units as at 11 December 1984 is as follows:
Unit
| Location
| Officers
| Soldiers
| ||||||||||||
Major
| Capt.
| Lt.
| 2/Lt.
| Total
| WOI
| WOII
| S/Sgt.
| Sgt.
| Cpl.
| L/Cpl.
| Private
| Total
| Totals
| ||
| C Troop, 213 (South Lancashire Artillery) Battery, 103 Air Defence Regiment, Royal Artillery | Widnes | — | 1 | 1 | — | 2 | — | 1 | 2 | 4 | 9 | 9 | 31 | 56 | 58 |
| Detachment 224 (North Staffs) Field Ambulance, Royal Army Medical Corps (Volunteers) | Crewe | — | — | 1 | — | 1 | — | — | 1 | — | 1 | 1 | 18 | 21 | 22 |
| Detachment 224 (North Staffs) Field Ambulance, Royal Army Medical Corps (Volunteers) | Macclesfield | — | 2 | — | — | 2 | — | — | — | 1 | 2 | 2 | 18 | 23 | 25 |
| Detachment 207 (Manchester) General Hospital, Royal Army Medical Corps (Volunteers) | Macclesfield | 2 | 4 | — | — | 6 | — | — | — | — | 1 | 9 | 29 | 39 | 45 |
| Detachment 208 (Manchester) General Hospital Royal Army Medical Corps (Volunteers) | Ellesmere Port | 2 | 2 | — | — | 4 | — | — | 1 | 5 | 1 | 4 | 11 | 22 | 26 |
| Totals | 12 | 23 | 14 | 7 | 56 | 1 | 13 | 17 | 65 | 93 | 113 | 483 | 785 | †841 | |
Notes:
* A detachment of C company is based at Northwich.
† These figures represent numbers of Territorial Army soldiers only, and do not include Regular Army staff, non-Regular permanent staff or civilians attached to these Territorial Amy units.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will outline his plans for the future strengths of those units of the Territorial Army currently based in Cheshire.
As part of our phase II expansion of the Territorial Army, plans for which we announced in March, we intend to begin raising a new battalion in the Cheshire area in 1986, which will be called 3rd (Volunteer) Battalion The Cheshire Regiment. This will be based on two existing companies of 2nd Battalion Mercian Volunteers at Ellesmere Port and Stockport. A headquarters for the new battalion will be raised initially at Northwich and will move to Runcorn. A new company will be raised at Macclesfield and the detachment of B Company, 2nd Battalion Mercian Volunteers at Crewe will expand and become D Company of the new battalion. We also plan to expand 207 (Manchester) general hospital, Royal Army Medical Corps (Volunteers), which recruits partly in Macclesfield, by about 100 posts. In addition, we intend to raise new home service force companies based in Warrington and Runcorn, and a platoon of a company based in Liverpool will be raised at Widnes.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will state the average annual training time undertaken by individuals serving in the Territorial Army.
During the training year 1983–84 the average number of training days undertaken by the whole of the Territorial Army was 35·9 per man.
Nato
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if Her Majesty's Government will make it their policy to seek to ensure that public statements made by, and the military doctrine of, the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation reflect its character as a defensive alliance.
NATO's public statements, such as its communiquùs, and NATO military planning already reflect the defensive nature of the Alliance.
Service Personnel (Industrial Disputes)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence why he does not give guidelines to service men on their off-duty involvement in industrial disputes such as the current miners' dispute.
I have nothing further to add to the reply given by my right hon. Friend the Minister of State for the Armed Forces to the hon. Member on 11 December, at column 409.
Fh70 Programme
asked the Secretary of State for defence if any companies involved in the Federal Republic of Germany are experiencing difficulties in reaching production deadlines in the FH70 programme.
Not that I am aware.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many jobs are expected to be lost, both directly and indirectly, as a result of giving the FH70 order to the Federal Republic of Germany.
The current order for FH70 ammunition to meet British Army requirements has, in accordance with international working agreements, been allocated to the Federal Republic of Germany. Had this work been awarded in full to the ROFs, in contravention of the relevant memorandum of understanding, it is estimated that it would have given rise to 640 man years of work. It is not possible to estimate the amount of any further work which this would have produced elsewhere.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will indicate how much work has been received by (a) the United Kingdom, (b) the Federal Republic of Germany and (c) the Republic of Italy under the agreement concerning the FH70 programme.
The latest trilaterally agreed position is as follows:
| Value of work | Percentage of total | Workshares entitlement | |
| £ million | Per cent. | Per cent. | |
| UK industry | 204 | 38·1 | 36·3 |
| FRG industry | 185 | 34·7 | 36·3 |
| Italian industry | 145 | 27·2 | 27·4 |
| 534 | 100 | 100 |
Crown Proceedings Act 1947
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he is satisfied with the operation of section 10 of the Crown Proceedings Act 1947.
Section 10 of the Crown Proceedings Act 1947 is currently under review.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence on how many occasions since 1947 section 10 of the Crown Protection Act 1947 has been invoked.
Section 10 of the Crown Protection Act 1947 applies to all cases of death or injury to members of the armed forces occurring in the circumstances described in the section and where DHSS certifies that the relevant incident or circumstance is regarded as attributable to service. Available records do not allow us to determine the total numbers concerned since 1947.
General Belgrano
asked the Secretary of State for Defence, pursuant to his reply of 11 December, Official Report, columns 432–33, if he will list the course and position of the General Belgrano on all those occasions when it was reported to the Flag Officer Submarines at Northwood.
I have nothing to add to what my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister said in her letter to the hon. Member on 19 September.
Commercial Shipping (Hire)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will list the Vote and subhead under which his Department's costs for the hire of commercial shipping is included.
Expenditure on the chartering or hiring of commercial shipping is borne on Class I, Vote 1, subheads, E1, E2, F4, H1, I1 and L6 and Class I, Vote 2, subhead F1, depending on the purpose for which it is required. Except for F4 these subheads also cover other forms of expenditure.
United States Nuclear Bases
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he is aware of the current rules of engagement which are operative for United States service men guarding United States nuclear bases.
Yes.
Nuclear Installations
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will publish the rules of engagement issued to soldiers guarding nuclear installations.
No. The guidance issued to armed service men is classified.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence when the rules of engagement for soldiers guarding nuclear establishments were last changed; and if he is planning any changes in the immediate future.
I refer the hon. Member to the answer given by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister to the hon. Member for Ealing, Southall (Mr. Bidwell) on 3 November 1983, at column 1004. No changes are planned.
Eastern Europe (Deep Targets)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if, in the event of conflict in central Europe, ministerial authorisation is needed before conventional forces can be used against deep targets in eastern Europe.
Yes. Overall political control of military activity is a fundamental principle of Alliance policy.
38 Reme Workshop, Chilwell
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will give an up-to-date costing for the installation of replacement test facilities at Boughton and Bicester following the proposed closure of 38 REME workshop at Chilwell.
Both during the period of consultation with the work force and trade unions — following the announcement on 28 June of our proposals for restructuring the REME static workshops in the United Kingdom—and prior to that date, we were not in a position to make detailed surveys and seek tenders for resiting equipment and modifying existing workshop facilities. The published cost figure of £2½ million for moving equipments from Chilwell and Newark workshops and relocating or reproviding them at Bicester, Bovington, Donnington or Old Dalby workshops had therefore to be based on in-house estimating. We are now producing detailed costings as we are able to proceed with substantive planning. Although I would not expect these to vary significantly from the original estimate, my noble Friend the Under-Secretary of State for Armed Forces will write to my hon. Friend in due course to let him know the results.
Written Answers
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if it is his practice personally to sign all written answers he gives to hon. Members.
In common with all Ministers in this Department, it is the practice of my right hon. Friend to approve personally the terms of all written answers given by him in reply to the questions from hon. Members.
Employment
Health And Safety (Industrial Plants)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what further action he proposes to control the potential hazards to the health and safety of workers and the public arising from major industrial plants.
My right hon. Friend has today laid before the House the Control of Industrial Major Accident Hazards Regulations 1984, S.I. No. 1902, which implement the European Community directive on the control of major accident hazards, known as the Seveso directive. These new regulations are part of a framework of controls for industrial major hazards which has been developed in Great Britain over the past decade by the Health and Safety Commission, assisted by its advisory committee on major hazards, and Departments with responsibility for town and country planning. These new controls, which will be enforced by the Health and Safety Executive, aim further to reduce the likelihood of major industrial accidents and to minimise the consequences of any incident. Their provisions will protect both people and the environment.The main impact of these regulations in Great Britain will be on larger chemical and petro-chemical installations handling more than specified amounts of certain flammable, explosive or toxic substances. Such installations will be required to notify the Health and Safety Executive of details of their activities and to submit a written report, or safety case, about their operations. They must also prepare adequate emergency plans for use on their sites and tell the people who live nearby, and who might be affected by an accident, about the nature of the hazard and what to do if an accident did occur. The local (county) authorities are similarly required to prepare an emergency plan to deal with any off-site consequence. Finally, any major accidents which occur must be reported to the Health and Safety Executive which will report them, in turn, to the European Commission for the mutual benefit of all member states.These regulations implement a European directive which is also being put into practice in all the other member states of the Community. The co-operation between member states, in which Great Britain is playing a full part, should help to share knowledge and experience so that our countries can reap the benefits of advanced, technological industries without running undue or unnecessary' risks.
Labour Statistics
15.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many people have been unemployed for over 12 months; and what was the comparable figure for May 1979.
On 11 October 1984 the number of claimants in the United Kingdom who had been unemployed for over one year was 1,276,883. The corresponding figure for April 1979 was 366,711, although this relates to registrants at jobcentres and is not directly comparable. The May 1979 figure is not available.
16.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the latest figures for the number of men and women, above retirement age, who are in work.
The labour force survey shows that there were 264,000 men and 517,000 women above retirement age in work in Great Britain in the second quarter of 1983.
20.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many persons have reached pensionable age over the past five years; how many school leavers have become available for employment over the same period; and what have been the implications for the labour market.
Between 1978 and 1983, 2·9 million people reached pensionable age in Great Britain. Over the same period 3·3 million people left school not intending to go into further full-time education.These were two of the factors which contributed to a growth of a quarter of a million in the labour force over that period.
24.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the latest number of unemployed in the United Kingdom.
39.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the latest level of unemployment.
On 8 November 1984 the number of unemployed claimants in the United Kingdom was 3,222,586.
29.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list those industries in which there has been most growth in jobs in the latest 12-month period for which statistics are available; and if he will make a statement.
The industries in which there vas the greatest numerical increase in employees in employment in Great Britain between June 1983 and June 1984 are as follows: Activity Heading of the 1980 Standard Industrial Classification
- Food retailing (AH 6410)
- Social welfare, charitable and community services (AH 9611) Hotel trade (AH 6650)
- Sport and other recreational services (AH 9791)
- Research and development (AH 9400)
- Public houses and bars (AH 6620)
- Banking and bill-discounting (AH 8140)
49.
asked the Secretary of Stale for Employment whether he will place in the Library a list of all redundancies and job losses, relating to all firms and industries, on a weekly basis; and if he will make a statement.
Information on confirmed redundancies is published monthly in tables 2.30 (by region) and 2.31 (by industry) of the labour market data section of Employment Gazette; copies of which are available in the Library. Other regularly produced unpublished analyses, by industry within region, are placed in the Library.The extra costs of compiling weekly information cannot be justified.The names of firms suffering redundancies cannot be disclosed, as this information is treated in confidence by the Department.
52.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment which region of the United Kingdom currently has the highest level of unemployment.
On 8 November 1984 there were 121,025 unemployed claimants in Northern Ireland with a corresponding unemployment rate of 20.9 per cent., which is higher than for all other regions of the United Kingdom.
53.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is his current estimate of the number and rate of unemployed in the city of Leicester.
On 8 November 1984 there were 20,238 unemployed claimants in the city of Leicester. Travel-to-work areas are the smallest areas for which unemployment rates are calculated. The corresponding figure for the Leicester travel-to-work area was 27,458, representing an unemployment rate of 11·0 per cent.
Skillcentres
17.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment following the recent meeting of the Manpower Services Commission, if he will make a statement on the future of skillcentres.
25.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the future of skillcentres.
Proposals for updating and streamlining the skillcentre network are currently being considered by the Manpower Services Commission and I have yet to receive the commission's advice.
40.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the average percentage of unemployment in the areas in which it is proposed to close skillcentres; and how this compares with the average percentage in areas where skillcentres are to remain.
The average unemployment rate in the travel-to-work areas in which it is proposed to close skillcentres was 13·2 per cent. at 8 November 1984. The corresponding figure for the areas where skillcentres are to remain was 13·1 per cent.
68.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what consultations he has had recently on the closure of skillcentres.
The Manpower Services Commission, which has represented on it employers, trade unions, local authority and education interests, is considering proposals for the future of the skillcentre network. We have yet to receive the commission's advice.
Jobcentres
18.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what representations he has received about the Manpower Services Commission's proposals for the size of the jobcentre network.
Four thousand organisations and individuals were consulted on the proposals for the jobcentre network. Replies were received from almost 3,000, including Members of Parliament, area manpower boards, local authorities, trade unions, trades councils, and Manpower Services Commission staff and their representatives.
51.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many employment service jobs will be lost as a result of the Manpower Services Commission's plans to change the jobcentre network.
The proposals for a revised jobcentre network involve a staff reduction of 530 posts over three years.A further 450 posts will be saved over the same period as a result of the introduction into jobcentres of a more efficient computerised system for handling job vacancies.
Disabled Persons
19.
asked me Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the Manpower Services Commission's code of good practice on the employment of disabled people.
The Manpower Services Commission's code of good practice on the employment of disabled people was formally launched by the Prime Minister on 14 November and copies have been placed in the Library.The Government have welcomed and endorsed the code; my right hon. Friend has written to 150 leading companies enclosing a video about the code; and has received a most encouraging response. We believe that the code will be important in ensuring that the abilities of disabled people are recognised and fully utilised.
70.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if the Government intend to promote legislation to make discrimination in employment against disabled persons illegal.
No.
Enterprise Allowance Scheme
21.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the progress of the enterprise allowance scheme.
We are very encouraged by the continued success of the enterprise allowance scheme, which has so far helped 60,000 unemployed people start their own business.
42.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many places will be available on the enterprise allowance scheme in 1985.
As my right hon. Friend announced on 12 November, at columns 445–46, the number of places available on the enterprise allowance scheme will be increased by 25 per cent. in 1985–86 and will offer over 62,000 unemployed people the chance to start their own business.
46.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many jobs have been created by businesses started under the enterprise allowance scheme.
I refer my hon. Friend to my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Amber Valley (Mr. Oppenheim) earlier today.
Equal Opportunities Commission
22.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on his meeting with Lady Platt, the chairman of the Equal Opportunities Commission, on Tuesday 4 December.
I met Lady Platt on 4 December to discuss the change from 1 October in the eligibility criteria for the community programme. I explained why we think those long-term unemployed people most in need should have priority for available places on the programme, and I undertook to consider further the concerns which Lady PLatt raised with me.
Health And Safety Commission And Executive
23.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he has any plans to change the role of the Health and Safety Commission and Executive.
The functions and responsibilities of the Health and Safety Commission and Executive are set out in the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974. We have no plans to change them.
Home Workers
26.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is his Department's estimate of the numbers of home workers; if he is satisfied with their employment conditions; and when the Home Working Advisory Committee last gave him any advice.
There are estimated to be 285,000 people working at home in the United Kingdom. Their conditions of employment is one of the areas under scrutiny in the current programme of research into home working. The Home Working Advisory Committee last met in January 1979.
67.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he has any plans to improve the enforcement of minimum pay rates for home workers.
The current arrangements for checking the pay of home workers covered by wages councils are considered to be adequate. Last year 3 per cent. of those whose pay was checked were found to be paid less than the legal minimum.
Wages Inspectorate
27.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many people are employed by the Wages Inspectorate at the latest available date.
On 3 September 1984 the Wages Inspectorate had a total of 222 staff in its 15 divisional offices.
Apprenticeships
28.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will increase the availability of assistance to employers for taking on apprentices to a level such that any young person who wishes to take a formal apprenticeship can get as much financial support for the duration of the apprenticeship as he or she would get if employed on Manpower Services Commission job creation schemes.
Widespread support for the first year of recognised apprentice training is already provided by the Government under the youth training scheme.Responsibility for the level of recruitment of apprentices and for training beyond the first year rests with employers, as set out in the White Paper "Training for Jobs" (Cmnd. 9135).
Industrial Relations
30.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what further proposals he has for legislation within industrial relations.
43.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he has any plans to introduce legislation to restrict the right to strike in essential services.
We have no definite plans for further legislation on industrial relations at this stage. The strike ballot provisions of the Trade Union Act have been in force only since 26 September and the other two parts of that Act will come into effect during 1985. We shall, however, be considering what further steps might usefully be taken both to deal with the special problems of industrial action in essential services and more generally.
Departmental Costs
31.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what further action he is taking to control the total running costs of his Department.
The plans to improve control of the Department's running costs were set out in the White Paper on financial management in Government Departments, which was published in July 1984 (Cmnd. 9297). Substantial progress has been made in implementing the Department's programme, including new arrangements for the involvement of myself and the other Ministers in the final stages of the review. I also receive periodic reports from the Manpower Services Commission and Health and Safety Commission on progress in implementing the financial management initiative and have discussed this with their chairmen.
Information Technology Centres
32.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the future of the information technology centres.
The arrangements for information technology centres which I announced in my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Thanet, North (Mr. Gale) on 7 November 1984, at columns 2–3, should encourage centres to consolidate and widen their involvement in business generation and training activities.
Employees (Assaults)
33.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what action the Health and Safety Executive is currently taking to deal with the problem of assaults suffered by employees in the course of their work.
The Health and Safety Executive has recently established a committee with interested parties and departments to consider existing measures taken by employers and possible future measures to combat the problem of violence to employees at the workplace from members of the public. The committee in particular aims to stimulate joint consideration of the problem by employers and unions in the sectors most affected. As a result, the problem is now being examined by the Health and Safety Commission's joint advisory committees on railways, education and the National Health Service; and the Department of Transport has convened a special working group to consider the problem in road passenger transport.
Wages Councils
34.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what estimate he makes of the effect of wages councils on employment in the industries covered.
We are continuing to consider evidence and opinion on this subject.
44.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many employees are covered by wages councils at the latest available date.
The estimated number is 2·7 million.
58.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what plans he has to abolish the wages councils.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he now has any plans to abolish the wages councils; and if he will make a statement.
I would refer my hon. Friends to my hon. Friend's reply given to my hon. Friend the Member for Gainsborough and Horncastle (Mr. Leigh) on 12 December 1984, at columns, 496–97.
Community Programme
35.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many long-term unemployed people have become ineligible for community programme schemes since 1 October as a result of not being in receipt of benefit.
37.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment why the Manpower Services Commission is restricting community programme places to those dependent on benefits.
I refer the hon. Members to my reply to the hon. Member for Huddersfield (Mr. Sheerman) on 9 November at columns 27–28.
38.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what representations he has received concerning the recent changes in community programme regulations.
We have received some 200 letters concerned with the change to the eligibility criteria for the community programme. I have also met Lady Platt, chairman of the Equal Opportunities Commission, and I would refer the hon. Member to my reply to the hon. Member for Liverpool, West Derby (Mr. Wareing) earlier today.
56.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will take steps to expand the numbers of people within the community programme.
I refer my hon. Friend to the reply by my right hon. Friend on 30 July, at columns 121–22.
59.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will make a statement on the progress of the community programme.
The community programme continues to make good progress. At the end of October some 126,000 people were taking part.
65.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement about training in the community programme.
My right hon. Friend announced on 30 July, at column 122, the Government's decision that, as part of the adult training strategy, participation in the community programme, which provides temporary jobs for long-term unemployed people, would be linked with short courses of work preparation and basic skills training. The Manpower Services Commission has begun to set up such courses and we anticipate that some 50,000 community programme clients annually are likely to benefit when the arrangements are fully developed.
Youth Training
36.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment when he will next meet the Confederation of British Industry to discuss youth training.
We frequently discuss training, including youth training, with representatives of the Confederation of British Industry.
Youth Training Scheme
41.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how much the Government are currently spending on the youth training scheme.
The estimate provision for expenditure on youth training in 1984–85 is £801·4 million.
47.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will make a statement on the level of take-up of the youth training scheme at the end of November 1984.
55.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the take-up of the youth training scheme since September.
There were about 327,000 entrants to the youth training scheme between the beginning of April and the end of November this year, including some 70,000 entrants since the end of September. I am most encouraged by the response to the scheme in its second year, which shows that young people recognise the advantages of participating in a high quality training programme.The continuing tremendous support from employers and other sponsors means that there will be more than sufficient places to meet the needs of all eligible youngsters in the second year.
57.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is his estimate of the level of training allowance which would have been paid to trainees on the youth training scheme if that allowance had been increased since April 1978 by either the rise in the retail price index or the rise in average industrial earnings.
The youth training scheme did not come into operation until April 1983. Between April 1978 and October 1984 the general index of retail prices increased by 83·8 per cent., and between April 1978 and September 1984 the average earnings index increased by 105·1 per cent. If the youth opportunities programme allowance of £19·50 in April 1978 had been increased by the former amount, it would now be £35·84 and by the latter it would now be £39·99.
Young Persons (Wages)
45.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will take steps to prevent wages councils deciding the minimum wages of young people.
The Government are considering whether changes should be made to the Wages Councils Act. At present, we are prevented from removing young people from scope by obligations under International Labour Convention 26.
Adult Training
48.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what steps he is taking to ensure that the provision of adult training responds to employers' needs.
As part of the Government's adult training strategy the resources available to the Manpower Services Commission are being directed to support training which is adaptable and responsive to employers' needs and which stimulates employers' own efforts. For example, steps have been taken to ensure that the commission's programme of skill supply training for unemployed people relates closely to known employment needs. The commission is also piloting some new pump-priming grant schemes for employers designed to contribute towards the costs of identifying employers' needs, upgrading and updating the skills of employees and training new recruits in skills which are in short supply locally. We are also funding a local collaborative projects programme jointly with the Education Departments, to help employers and training providers to work together to define training needs and explore possible ways of meeting them.
Industrial Disputes (Lost Working Days)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is his Department's latest figures for the number of days lost through industrial disputes this year.
It is provisionally estimated that in the first 10 months of this year 18·8 million working days have been lost through stoppages of work due to industrial disputes in the United Kingdom. About 80 per cent. were lost in the mining dispute.
Job Creation
54.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what plans he has to reduce unemployment; and if he will make a statement.
I refer the hon. Member to my reply to the hon. Member for Liverpool, Riverside (Mr. Parry) on 13 December 1984, at column 557.
Professional And Executive Recruitment Service
60.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he is satisfied with the Professional and Executive Recruitment Service; and whether he has any plans to privatise it.
Professional and Executive Recruitment was put on to a full cost recovery basis from 1 April 1983. The service met its self-financing objective for the 1983–84 financial year and current indications are that this year's objective will also be met. I am pleased to say that the service therefore now operates at no cost to the taxpayer. There are no plans for the moment to change the basis of operation of the service, but its future is being kept' under review.
Robotics And Microprocessor Controls
61.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what conclusions were reached by the recent study by Her Majesty's Factories Inspectorate of the safety aspects of robotics and microprocessor controls.
The study of the prevention of risks in the use of microprocessor controls and robotics is continuing. I am advised by the chairman of the Health and Safety Commission that the Health and Safety Executive is to issue guidance documents on both topics. A guidance document on the safeguarding of industrial robotics is being prepared. A draft will be circulated to those in industry with an interest in the subject. Their views will be taken into account before the guidance is published. A draft of a three part document "Guidance on the Safe Use of Programme Electronic Systems" has already been circulated to industry for comment. Publication is intended for 1985, and again the opinions expressed at the consultation stage will be taken into account. Copies of the draft have been placed in the House of Commons Library.
Disabled Persons
62.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what steps the Government intend to take to monitor the implementation by employers of the code of practice on the employment of disabled persons.
Information about employers' first impressions of the code will be obtained in the first half of 1985. This will be followed by an in-depth evaluation of the code, probably in two to three years' time, when employers will have had time to adjust their policies and practices, where necessary, to its guidance.
Coal Industry Dispute
63.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will seek a meeting with the general secretary of the Trades Union Congress to consider fresh conciliation measures to settle the dispute in the mining industry.
My right hon. Friend and my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Energy met the general secretary and other representatives of the Trades Union Congress on 14 December. The Government wish to see an early and constructive settlement to this dispute, but until the NUM shows a genuine desire to reach such a settlement we cannot see any fresh conciliation attempts being successful.
64.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the effect on employment of the industrial dispute in parts of the coal industry.
All strikes put employment at risk. In the short term output is lost and orders go to competitors. In the longer term customer confidence may be irreparably damaged. Apart from the effects on the industry itself, the coal dispute is affecting employment throughout the economy, partly because of its general effects on interest rates and market confidence.The individual causes of changes in the level of employment cannot be identified in the Department's statistics. However, the Association of British Mining Equipment Companies has estimated that if the dispute continues into next year, the work force employed by its members and their subcontractors will have been substantially reduced through redundancies and short-time working.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many people in Scotland, and in which travel-to-work areas, have lost employment as a result of the miners' strike.
All strikes put employment at risk. In the short term, output is lost and orders go to competitors. In the longer term customer confidence may be irreparably damaged. Apart from the effects on the industry itself, the coal dispute is affecting employment throughout the economy, partly because of its general effects on interest rates and market confidence.However, the individual causes of changes in the level of employment cannot be identified in the Department's statistics and it is not possible to assess any effects particular to Scotland.
Unemployed Persons (Training)
66.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what further plans he has to provide training for the unemployed.
The youth training scheme is now firmly established and sufficient places are available this year for all youngsters likely to come forward.This year about 85,000 unemployed adults are expected to enter the Manpower Services Commission's training opportunities scheme. As part of our adult training strategy, major changes are underway to make the Manpower Services Commission's adult training programmes more effective, and we plan to substantially increase to 125,000 the number of unemployed adults trained each year. In addition around 125,000 employed adults will be helped to train each year.
Young Workers Scheme
69.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the operation of the young workers scheme.
| Trade Union | Employer | Result (for or against continuance of the closed shop) | Number of employees |
| National Union of Public Employees | London Ambulance Service | Against | 2,113 |
| Transport and General Workers Union (TGWU) | |||
| Confederation of Health Service Employees | |||
| General, Municipal and Boilermakers Union | |||
| Electrical, Electronic Telecommunication and Plumbing Trade Union | Cossor Electronics (Essex) | For | 695 |
| Union of Shop, Distributive and Allied Workers (USDAW) | Kays Mail Order (Leeds, Bradford) | For | 1,500 |
| TGWU | Kays Mail Order (Worcester) manual employees | For | not known |
| non-manual employees | Against | not known | |
| USDAW | British Mail Order Corporation (Lancashire) | For | not known |
| USDAW | Rank Hovis McDougall (Leeds) | For | not known |
| National Graphical Association | Reuters International News Agency (London) | Against | 854 |
| SOGAT '82 |
Trade Unions (Ballots)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list instances of pre-strike ballots held in accordance with the Trade Union Act 1984 and the result of those ballots.
Since the young workers scheme started in January 1982, it has helped provide employment for over 350,000 young people at more realistic rates of pay. Some 70,000 young people are currently supported and my right hon. Friend announced on 12 November, at column 644, that the scheme is to continue until March 1986.
Closed Shop Agreements
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list instances since 1 November when and where, in accordance with employment legislation, secret ballots have been held to confirm the continuation of closed shop agreements; and what have been the results of these secret ballots.
The employment legislation imposes no specific obligation on employers to hold secret ballots on the continuation of closed shop agreements. However, if no ballot is held the effect is exactly the same as if a ballot is held and the required majority is not achieved; dismissal for non-membership of a trade union becomes automatically unfair. Details of ballots which have been reported in the press as having been held since 1 November are as follows.It is clear that only a very small proportion of the 4 million or so employees covered by closed shops have so far been given the chance of a ballot and that the vast majority of closed shops have therefore lost all legal protection. In addition, a number of major employers—including the water authorities, the National Bus Company, United Biscuits — have terminated their closed shop agreements; and others, including British Gas, have made it clear that they are not prepared to dismiss employees on grounds of non-membership of a trade union.
Press reports indicate that since the strike ballot provisions of the Trade Union Act 1984 came into effect on 26 September one ballot has been held as a direct result of legal proceedings brought under the Act. In that instance a majority of the union members voting expressed their willingness to take part in industrial action. However, in three other reported cases —including Austin Rover — employers have obtained injunctions which required the trade unions concerned to desist from organising industrial action because they had failed to hold ballots in accordance with the Act.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment which trade unions have informed his Department of their acceptance of public money for postal ballots.
I am informed by the Certification Officer that 26 trade unions have applied for public money since the inception of the funding scheme in 1980. Press reports suggest that for the first time a number of unions affiliated to the TUC are either intending to make applications for funding or are pressing the TUC to change its policy of boycotting the scheme. Unions mentioned in these reports include:
The Amalgamated Union of Engineering Workers, (Engineering Section)
The Association of Scientific Technical and Managerial Staffs
The Electrical Electronic Telecommunication and Plumbing Union and
The United Road Transport Union.
Trade Union (Rule Books)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what information his Department has received about the number of trade unions which are looking at ways of bringing their rule books into line with the provisions of the Trade Union Act 1984; and if he will list them.
Trade unions with political funds which intend to hold review ballots under the provisions of the 1984 Act in order to continue spending money on party political matters will need to adopt new rules for the holding of these ballots. Reports suggest that most of the 60 trade unions with political funds will choose to do so. The provisions of the 1984 Act relating to elections and ballots before industrial action place no specifc obligations on trade unions to alter their rules. However, press reports suggest that a number of trade unions are contemplating rule changes as a result of one or both of these provisions, including
The Association of Scientific Technical and Managerial Staffs
The Amalgamated Union of Engineering Workers (Engineering Section)
The Engineers and Managers Association
The General Municipal Boilermakers and Allied Trades Union
The Union of Communication Workers
The provisions of the Act concerning union elections do not come into force until 1 October 1985.The United Road Transport Union.
Manufacturing Industry (Statistics)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will publish in the Official Report a table showing for the United Kingdom and the United States of America the increase in prices and earnings in manufacturing, taking account of changes in working hours, over the past 12 months together with the increase in take-home pay as a result of changes in taxation; whether he will include figures showing hours worked and the change in unit labour costs in both cases; and if he will compare the latest monthly change in the employment figures in the two countries for manufacturing and for other industries.
The latest information for comparable periods is as follows:
| Percentage change | |
| (a) Percentage change in retail prices in the 12 months to October 1984 | |
| United Kingdom (Retail Prices Index) | +5·0 |
| United States (Consumer Price Index) | +4·2 |
| (b) Percentage change in average gross hourly earnings in manufacturing industries in the 12 months to September 1984 | |
| Great Britain (estimated underlying increase)* | About 8·25 |
| United States (production workers) | 3·7 |
| (c) Percentage change in average weekly hours in manufacturing industries (seasonally adjusted) in the 12 months to September 1984 | |
| Great Britain (operatives) | +0·3 |
| United States (production workers) | -0·5 |
| (d) Percentage change in manufacturing unit wage and salary costs in the 12 months to August 1984 | |
| United Kingdom | +5·1 |
| United States | +0·7 |
| Manufacturing† | Other industries and services | |
| (e) Change in employees in employment between March and June 1984 (thousands, seasonally adjusted) | ||
| Great Britain | +3 | +7 |
| United States (non agricultural payrolls) | +163 | +914 |
* The estimated underlying increase for Great Britain is based on the underlying increase in average weekly earnings in manufacturing industries of 8·75 per cent, and the information on average weekly hours of operatives.
† The change between August and September, available only for manufacturing employees, was +13 thousand in Great Britain and -124 thousand in the United States.
Sources:
Employment Gazette (November 1984) and OECD Main Economic Indicators (November 1984).
Changes in taxation are a matter for my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer.
Industrial Training Associations
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what steps are taken by the Manpower Services Commission to liaise with those industrial training associations which have replaced training boards, now abolished, over matters relating to training content, work place supervision, and levy on grant arrangements; and whether he will make a statement.
The Manpower Services Commission maintains contact with training organisations, which replaced industrial training boards, through appointed liaison officers, and by regular provision of information on training issues, national training policies and publicly-funded training assistance. These contacts also provide opportunities for consultation and discussion. Such bodies of course do not have a statutory right to impose levy on their members.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether Manpower Services Commission area boards have introduced arrangements to pay grants direct to individual firms, thereby bypassing industrial training associations; and whether he will discuss with the chairman whether the practice should continue.
As set out in the White Paper, "Training For Jobs" (Cmnd. 9135), the adult training strategy aims to improve and strengthen opportunities for meeting the needs of local industry and commerce. This will include provision of publicly funded local training grants available via Manpower Services Commission area offices. A limited number of pilot schemes are being run in the 1984–85 financial year.Grant schemes which meet nationally identified priorities, such as computer and other priority skills training, continue to be available to employers through industry training organisations. In cases where companies approaching Manpower Services Commission area offices for local grant aid appear eligible for such national grants, they are first invited to contact the appropriate industry training organisation.
Training Grants
asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether the Manpower Services Commission has any proposals currently under consideration to disqualify companies employing over 200 people from any training grants; and whether he will make a statement.
No such proposals are under consideration. The Manpower Services Commission has a number of schemes which are directly aimed at assisting the creation and growth of new firms and therefore assist only small firms. While there are not any grant schemes that disqualify companies of a particular size, there are conditions in a number of schemes that give priority to small firms.
New Training Initiative
asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) if he will detail the training arrangements which replaced the air transport and travel industrial training board and make a statement concerning progress towards the objectives of the new training initiative in that sector;(2) if he will report, for each region and each training year 1979–80 to 1984–85, on the level of recruitment to first-year apprentice training in the carpet industry, the ceramics, glass and mineral products industry, the chemical and allied products industry, the cotton and allied textiles industry, the furniture and timber industry, the iron and steel industry, the printing and publishing industry, the rubber and plastics industry, the shipbuilding industry and the wool, jute and flax industry, respectively.(3) if he will detail the training arrangements which replaced the shipbuilding industry industrial training board and make a statement concerning progress towards the objectives of the new training initiative in that sector;(4) if he will detail the training arrangements which replaced the wool, jute and flax industrial training board and make a statement concerning progress towards the objectives of the new training initiative in that sector;(5) if he will detail the training arrangements which replaced the carpet industry industrial training board and make a statement concerning progress towards the objectives of the new training initiative in that sector;
(6) if he will detail the training arrangements which replaced the man-made fibres industrial training board and make a statement concerning progress towards the objectives of the new training initiative in that sector;
(7) if he will detail the training arrangements which replaced the printing and publishing industrial training board and make a statement concerning progress towards the objectives of the new training initiative in that sector;
(8) if he will detail the training arrangements which replaced the iron and steel industrial training board and make a statement concerning progress towards the objectives of the new training initiative in that sector;
(9) if he will detail the training arrangements which replaced the knitting, lace and net industrial training board and make a statement concerning progress towards the objectives of the new training initiative in that sector;
(10) if he will detail the training arrangements which replaced the furniture and timber industrial training board and make a statement concerning progress towards the objectives of the new training initiative in that sector;
(11) if he will detail the training arrangements which replaced the hotel and catering industrial training board and make a statement concerning progress towards the objectives of the new training initiative in that sector;
(12) if he will detail the training arrangements which replaced the food, drink and tobacco industrial training board and make a statement concerning progress towards the objectives of the new training initiative in that sector;
(13) if he will detail the training arrangements which replaced the distributive industrial training board and make a statement concerning progress towards the objectives of the new training initiative in that sector;
(14) if he will detail the training arrangements which replaced the cotton and allied textiles industrial training board and make a statement concerning progress towards the objectives of the new training initiative in that sector;
(15) if he will detail the training arrangements which replaced the chemical and allied products industrial training board and make a statement concerning progress towards the objectives of the new training initiative in that sector;
(16) if he will detail the training arrangements which replaced the clothing and allied products industrial training board and make a statement concerning progress towards the objectives of the new training initiative in that sector;
(17) if he will detail the training arrangements which replaced the ceramics, glass and mineral products industrial training board and make a statement concerning progress towards the objectives of the new training initiative in that sector;
I shall write to the hon. Member over the recess and place a copy of my letter in the Library.
National Finance
Pension Funds
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will estimate the cost in the present and in the next financial year of tax relief to pension funds.
Measurement of the revenue cost of tax reliefs available to occupational pension schemes and contributors depends upon the choice of an alternative tax regime against which the present arrangements are to be compared. The Inland Revenue's consultative paper of September 1983 "Cost of tax reliefs for pension schemes: appropriate statistical approach" set out five possible bases for such a comparison. At 1984–85 levels, the revenue cost of reliefs under these five approaches would range from £900 million to £3,400 million. I regret that it is not possible to provide figures for 1985–86.
Gdp And Consumer Spending
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will give the figures for gross domestic product and consumer spending at 1980 prices and current prices for each of the years 1978 to 1983, and the latest available estimates for 1984.
Current and constant price figures for consumers' expenditure and gross domestic product to the end of 1983 were published in the 1984 edition of "United Kingdom National Accounts". The Government's latest forecasts for gross domestic product and consumers' expenditure at constant prices in 1984 were published in the autumn statement.
Public Expenditure
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what were the figures for total public expenditure, including debt interest and before deducting the proceeds of asset sales, for each of the years from 1978–79 to 1983–84, with the estimated figures for 1984–85 and 1985–86, all at 1980 prices.
The figures requested are:
| £ billion (1980 cost terms) | |
| 1979–80 | 101·0 |
| 1980–81 | 102·0 |
| 1981–82 | 105·3 |
| 1982–83 | 107·6 |
| 1983–84 | 109·2 |
| 1984–85 | 111·4 |
| 1985–86 | 110·6 |
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will give the figures at constant prices for total gross public capital expenditure, before deducting the proceeds of asset sales, for each of the years 1973–74, 1978–79 to 1983–84, and the latest estimates for 1984–85 and 1985–86.
The latest available figures for total gross public sector capital spending were published in table 1.13 of "The Government's Expenditure Plans 1984–85 to 1986–87" (Cmnd. 9143). In 1982–83 cost terms they were:
| £ billion | |
| 1978–79 | 21·8 |
| 1979–80 | 22·0 |
| 1980–81 | 21·6 |
| 1981–82 | 20·7 |
£ billion
| |
| 1982–83 | 21·4 |
| 1983–84 | 22·2 |
| 1984–85 | 21·7 |
These figures are expressed before deducting the proceeds of asset sales and also include other adjustments to the public expenditure planning total as explained in the footnotes to the published table.
Figures for 1973–74 and 1985–86 are not available on consistent definitions. Revised figures for recent years to 1985–86 will be published in the next public expenditure White Paper.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, in considering the job creation effects of various forms of public expenditure, what estimate he uses of (a) the gross cost in public expenditure terms and (b) the net cost in public sector borrowing requirement terms of the job creation effects of home improvement grants.
There are a number of technical difficulties in making a precise estimate of the cost per job resulting from various public expenditure programmes. However, in broad terms, the net cost per net person off the employment register of public expenditure on home improvement grants is estimated to be more than 10 times that of the average such net cost for special employment measures.
Manufacturing Employment
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the peak employment in manufacturing in the United Kingdom since 1960 compared to the present; and what was the peak, and what is the present employment, in manufacturing in other industrial countries.
Index numbers for the employed labour force in United Kingdom manufacturing from 1960 to the present are provided in the annual supplement of Economic Trends (1984 edition) and in the November 1984 edition of Economic Trends. Similar estimates for other industrial countries can be found in the OECDs "Main Economic Indicators".
Taxpayers (Tourism)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequeer if he will estimate the present number of self-employed taxpayers whose income wholly or principally arises from tourist-related activities.
I regret that this information is not available, as such taxpayers are not identified by the occupational classification used when the statistics are collected.
Pay And Jobs (Links)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what links the Treasury model assumes between real wages or total real employment costs and total employment; and if he will make a statement.
The estimate of the relationship between real wages and employment, which my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer has given the House on 30 October at column 1183, was based on a survey of academic studies and on the results of simulations of the Treasury model. Details of the evidence, including the simulation results, will be published in the new year.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the link between total employment costs and total employment in terms of jobs created or lost for decreases or increases in such costs.
My right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer has already given the House his estimate of the additional jobs that would result, over a period of years, if real wages had been held constant between 1981 and 1984–30 October, column 1183. It was based on evidence that a sustained 1 per cent. fall in the average level of real employment costs will, in time, lead to an increase of between 0·5 and 1 per cent. in employment.
Ec (Contributions)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his latest estimate of the sum which the United Kingdom will have paid to the Common Market, net of any repayments, during the calendar year 1984.
I shall let my hon. Friend have a reply as soon as possible.
Ec (Refund)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if the refund which the United Kingdom has secured in discussion within the Council of Ministers of £600 million in respect of the year 1985 is subject, before actual payment, to the approval of the Common Market Assembly; and if he will make a statement.
The Fontainebleau European Council of Heads of State and Government agreed that the United Kingdom should receive in 1985 a refund of 1,000 million ecu in respect of its excessive budgetary burden in 1984. The Council agreed that this should be paid by deduction from the United Kingdom's VAT share in 1985. The payment will not be dependent on the approval of the European Parliament.
Ec (Expenditure)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what will be the limit on the sum of total expenditure which the Common Market Council of Ministers will, by qualified majority, be able to determine when the additional own resources and budgetary restraint mechanism come into effect.
I shall let my hon. Friend have a reply as soon as possible.
Value Added Tax
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what recent representations he has received concerning the effect of the introduction of value added tax on the fish and chip business; and whether there are any plans to alter the rate of value added tax on hot-take away food.
Treasury Ministers continue to receive letters and the Hot Take-Away Action Group has also recently made further representations. As regards the second part of the question, I cannot anticipate the Budget.
Privatisation (Fees And Commissions)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will list in the Official Report (a) updated figures for fees paid, including fees to auditors in respect of the first share issues for Amersham International Ltd., Associated British Ports, British Aerospace, British Railways Board Hotels, Britoil, Cable and Wireless and the National Freight Corporation and (b) all the fees and commissions paid to primary underwriters, sub-underwriters, financial advisers, legal advisers, auditors and stockbrokers in respect of the second Cable and Wireless issue, the second Associated British Ports issue, Enterprise Oil, Sealink, Jaguar, British Telecom and the 1979 and 1983 BP issues; and if he will name each firm concerned.
I shall let the hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.
Non-Residents (Taxation)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he has any plans to authorise the issue of a consultative document covering the taxation of non-residents operating in the United Kingdom.
It is proposed that a consultative document on the taxation of non-residents operating in the United Kingdom will be issued next year. However, in advance of consultation on the wider issues, I have authorised the Inland Revenue to publish today a consultative paper on the tax treatment of non-resident investors who use the services of United Kingdom investment managers. Comments are invited by 1 February 1985.I have arranged to have copies of the document placed in the Library of the House.
Customs Controls (Staff)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what response he is making to the claim by the Customs and Excise Council of Civil Service Unions for 500 additional staff for the operation of customs controls.
I have written to the secretary of the council as follows:
"When you and your Trade Union Side colleagues came to see me on 21 November, and I am grateful for the constructive points you made, I promised to report our discussion to the Chancellor of the Exchequer, which I have done, and then to let you have a written reply to your claim.
Government policy is that Civil Service manpower should match the needs of the work to be done. This means that staffing levels are decided only after careful consideration of the number of staff required to do the necessary work and to achieve the required results. This approach is applied to Customs and Excise work as it is to the generality of Government Departments.
The approach does not, of course, work in one direction only. The Chancellor of the Exchequer and I have been concerned to ensure that, taking full account of the scope for efficiency and other savings, Customs and Excise are allocated the appropriate level of resources to undertake their essential functions. For 1985–86 the Chancellor of the Exchequer announced on 10 October that Customs and Excise manpower would be increased by 185 posts above previous planning levels. This included 160 extra staff for customs preventive controls: the making permanent of 60 temporary posts allocated to enhance controls of both passengers and freight in 1984–85 and 100 new posts for the fight against drugs smuggling in 1985–86. These posts will be used in areas where they are most likely to yield results, for example, in increased intelligence gathering and targeted operations and in improving selective controls. Their deployment
will be the subject of formal management proposals in due course, so that there will be a proper opportunity for the Trade Union Side to make any detailed points in the context of the Civil Service Whitley machinery.
I believe your claim underrates the very considerable successes achieved by Customs and Excise against drugs smuggling in recent years. For example, in the first 10 months of this year Customs and Excise seized over 250 kilos of heroin which is a considerable increase over the 212 kilos seized in the whole of 1983 and the 40 kilos seized in 1979. Over 200 persons have been arrested in relation to heroin offences so far this year, of whom more than 60 were principals or organisers rather than mere carriers. On 4 October Customs, assisted by police, seized almost five tonnes of cannabis from a ship in the River Crouch — one of the largest-ever seizures in Britain. These achievements reflect favourably on the Customs and Excise service and on the success of the intelligence-based approach to targeted operations which account for most of the larger seizures. I do not accept the implication in your claim that increased Customs seizures derive from no more than a pro rata increase in the rate of drugs smuggling.
To sum up, the new allocation of resources reflects our determination, as part of the Government's co-ordinated strategy against drugs abuse, to reinforce Customs' efforts and to build on their successes. I assure you that I shall continue to take a close interest in Customs' assessment of the drugs smuggling situation and the results achieved. Equally, the adequacy of Customs' resources will be carefully watched and will be reviewed as part of the 1985 public expenditure survey."
Capital Allowances
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will make a statement about the consultations that have been taking place concerning the date on which capital expenditure is deemed to have been occurred for capital allowance purposes.
The consultations announced by my hon. Friend the Financial Secretary at Report stage of the Finance Bill on 11 July 1984 at column 1082 have been completed. In the light of those exchanges, I propose to bring the date on which expenditure is incurred for the purpose of capital allowances into line with the date on which it is treated as incurred for normal accountancy purposes. Broadly speaking, this will mean that allowances will be due to the purchaser of an asset on the date on which the obligation to pay arises, and at the rate prevailing on that date, which will normally be the date when title passes to him. There will, however, be a rule to prevent this basis being exploited for the purpose of artificially accelerating entitlement. The existing provisions, under which allowances may in certain circumstances be available earlier (for example, in the case of stage payments or deposits) will be retained. Legislation to this effect will be included in the next Finance Bill. Where accounts for past periods have been drawn up in accordance with normal accountancy practice, the Inland Revenue will not seek to adjust them, whether or not the assessments are still open.
Pension Funds (Taxation)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if, in any consideration of additional taxation of pension funds, he will take into account the possible effects on the solvency of those funds or of the institutions which have guaranteed the payment of the benefits.
[pursuant to his reply, 13 December 1984, c. 574]: If such a change were contemplated I should naturally give very careful consideration to all the factors involved.
Pension Schemes
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many people have contributed to pension schemes for which income tax is reclaimable on contributions in each of the last three years for which figures are available.
[pursuant to his reply, 13 December 1984, c. 574]: It is estimated that there are currently some 11·5 million employees contributing to occupational pension schemes and about 0·75 million people paying premiums under retirement annuity contracts. Relief from income tax is available in respect of these payments. I regret that figures for individual years are not available.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many pension schemes have been in operation for each of the last five years for which figures are available, from which, under present regulations, lump sum payments would be tax-free.
[pursuant to his reply, 13 December 1984, c. 574]: Virtually all occupational pension schemes and retirement annuity contracts allow for the payment of a lump sum on retirement (within certain limits) which is tax-free under present arrangements. There is no precise definition of what constitutes a "scheme"; but the sixth survey of occupational pension schemes by the Government Actuary estimated that there were about 90,000 employee-based schemes in 1979.
Lump Sum Retirement Payments (Taxation)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how much revenue would be raised in a full year if lump sum pension entitlements were taxed.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will estimate the tax yield from taxing lump sum payments on retirement.
[pursuant to his reply, 17 December 1984, c. 65]: Lump sum payments on retirement in 1984–85 are currently estimated at around £3 billion. If lump sums were brought into tax, the yield would depend, amongst other things, on the form of the tax and the rate at which it was charged.
Sterling Balances
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his policy towards official sterling balances.
[pursuant to his reply, 17 December 1984, c. 64]: Following the 1977 Basle agreement official holders of sterling were asked to restrict their balances to working levels, but I have concluded that it is no longer appropriate to continue with a restriction which applies to one class of sterling holder only. This change does not imply any desire to influence the level of official balances, which will be determined by the market.
Coins (Abolition)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) what savings would be obtained by abolishing the penny;(2) what annual savings would be secured by abolishing the 1 p and the 2p pieces.
[pursuant to his reply, 17 December, 1984, c. 64]: The costs saved by abolishing the 1p and 2p coins using current figures would be £0·9 million and £1·2 million respectively.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish figures showing the real value of today's 5p and 2p pieces in 1930, 1940, 1950, 1960 and 1970; and which coins at the relevant dates would have come nearest to representing these values.
[pursuant to his reply, 17 December 1984, c. 64]: The values and nearest coins to today's 2p and 5p pieces are as follows:
| November | Value at date shown | Nearest coins | ||
| p | p | p | p | |
| 1984 | 2 | 5 | 2 | 5 |
| Old pence | ||||
| p | p | d | d | |
| 1970 | 0·41 | 1·02 | 1 | *3 |
| 1960 | 0·27 | 0·68 | *½ | *1 |
| 1950 | 0·18 | 0·46 | ½ | *1 |
| 1940 | 0·15 | 0·37 | ¼ | 1 |
| 1930 | 0·13 | 0·31 | ¼ | *1 |
| * Nearest single coin. | ||||
Single Parent Families
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if the Government have any proposals to enable working women who are single parents to recover income tax relief in respect of necessary payments by them to child minders and nannies; and if he will make a statement.
[pursuant to his reply, 17 December 1984, c. 65]: No. Single parents already qualify for the additional personal allowance, which is worth £1,150 in 1984–85.
Nationalised Industries (Shares)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish the study he conducted on the free distribution of shares in nationalised industries.
[pursuant to his reply, 17 December 1984, c. 65]: The possibility was examined in depth in 1979 and 1980 and ruled out for reasons which still apply. Any such scheme would be extremely complex and the costs would significantly reduce the benefit that could be distributed. The work that led to these conclusions is not suitable for publication.
Caravan Sites (Taxation)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether the Inland Revenue has turned down any applications from owners of touring caravan pitches and third party static caravan pitches to be taxed under Schedule D clause 1 since the implementation of the Finance Act 1984.
[pursuant to his reply, 17 December 1984, c. 66]: This information is not available centrally. Decisions on the appropriate basis of assessment in individual cases are taken at local office level.
National Insurance Pensions (Taxation)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many people have been charged income tax on their national insurance pensions before the pension has been paid because of the industrial action in the Department of Health and Social Security.
[pursuant to his reply, 17 December 1984, c. 66]: The information on which to base an estimate of the number of persons who have been charged income tax on their national insurance pensions before the pension has been paid is not available. However, the emergency arrangements introduced by DHSS for the payment of retirement pensions during the industrial action should ensure that all pensioners receive their pensions without undue delay. If my hon. Friend is aware of any pensioner who is experiencing particular difficulty in obtaining payment of his pension, my hon. Friend the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Social Security would be glad to look into it.
Alcoholic Beverages (Taxation)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will estimate the revenue effect per penny of reducing total tax charges, excise duty plus value added tax on beer, spirits and low, medium and high strength wines, respectively, expressed in £ million at 1985–86 prices.
[pursuant to his reply, 17 December 1984, c. 66]: The estimated revenue losses are:
| Price reduction (duty plus consequential VAT) | Full year net revenue cost at 1985–86 prices (£ million) | |
| Beer | lp per pint | 90 |
| Spirits | lp per bottle | 1 |
| Wine and Made-Wine low strength* | lp per bottle | 5 |
| medium and high strength† | lp per bottle | 1·5 |
Notes:
* Less than 15 per cent. alcohol by volume.
†15 per cent. to 18 per cent. and over 18 per cent. alcohol by volume.
Within limits the revenue estimates shown here can be scaled up to give a reasonable guide to the effects of larger duty reductions, although the margins of uncertainty become progressively larger as the size of reduction increases.
Trade And Industry
Asbestos Cement
asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what was the quantity of asbestos cement imported into the United Kingdom for each year since 1981; and how these figures compare with the quantities imported for each of the previous five years.
Asbestos cement is not separately identified in the statistics of overseas trade.Imports of articles of asbestos cement, cellulose-fibre cement and the like (the bulk of which is believed to have been of asbestos cement) have been as follows:
| Quantity (MT thousands) | |
| 1977 | 33·7 |
| 1978 | 41·5 |
| 1979 | 55·1 |
| 1980 | 66·9 |
| 1981 | 56·7 |
| 1982 | 61·5 |
| 1983 | 101·9 |
| 1984 January to October | 89·3 |
Source: United Kingdom Overseas Trade Statistics, table III, SITC item 661.83
Phoenix 2
asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry when he expects to make a statement on the Phoenix 2 joint venture.
Final proposals received from BSC and GKN in November are now under appraisal. My right hon. Friend intends to make a statement in due course.
Loan Guarantee Scheme
asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry (1) how many firms to date have benefited from the loan guarantee scheme;(2) what is the total money guaranteed so far under the loan guarantee scheme;(3) how much money the Government have received to date in premiums;(4) what percentage of loans from the loan guarantee scheme has gone to start-up firms.
I shall reply to my hon. Friend as soon as possible.
Trafalgar House
asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether there have been any cash payments to Trafalgar House, directly or indirectly, in respect of its purchase of Scott-Lithgow since the answer of 9 April, Official Report, column 19; and whether any additional payments are now anticipated.
I shall reply to the right hon. Member as soon as possible.
Exchange Risk Guarantee Scheme
asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will make a statement on the future of the exchange risk guarantee scheme.
My hon. Friend the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Industry announced on 3 November 1983 that the exchange risk guarantee scheme was being extended until 31 December 1984.The scheme provides exchange risk cover for loans advanced by the European Investment Bank and the European Coal and Steel Community, mainly to firms in the assisted areas. The Government have decided to extend this part of the scheme until 31 March 1985 to enable its future to be reviewed in the light of the changes in regional industrial policy that I announced to the House on 28 November.The scheme also provides exchange risk cover for lending to small firms under the new community instrument. The Government have now concluded that taking account of rising costs and the availability of alternative sources of finance, this cover outside the assisted areas should come to an end on 31 December 1984. Suitable transitional arrangements will be worked out with the new Community instrument's agents.I shall make a further statement when the Government have completed their review of cover for the lending of the European Investment Bank and European Coal and Steel Community.
Norton Villiers Triumph Ltd
asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will report on the negotiations to sell the Government's shareholding in Norton Villiers Triumph Ltd.
I am pleased to report that negotiations have now been completed and the Department's remaining shareholding of 1 million A and 1·372 million B preference shares in Norton Villiers Triumph Ltd. have been sold to Manganese Bronze Holdings plc for a consideration of £0·375 million.
Shipbuilding Redundancy Payments Scheme
asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he intends to extend the shipbuilding redundancy payments scheme beyond its present expiry date of 30 June 1985; and if he will make a statement.
Yes. The Government will shortly introduce a Bill to extend the shipbuilding redundancy payments scheme, and the parallel scheme for Northern Ireland, on the same terms as at present. The extension will be for a final period of 18 months ending on 31 December 1986.
Overseas Development
Ethiopia
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how successful international contributions to Ethiopian hunger relief have been to date; how far these contributions have reached the starving people concerned; what more is required of the international community to stave off famine in Ethiopia; and what more the United Kingdom proposes to do.
Contributions made by the international community and the public are having a definite impact, as I saw on my recent visit. Food aid shipments front present pledges now look sufficient until the end of February, and there is more to come. I believe the vast bulk of these contributions have reached those in the greatest need, though it is difficult to supply the areas where civil strife continues. We expect help to be needed until the end of 1985, but the assessment of what is required will have to be done primarily by Mr. Jansson, the United Nations special co-ordinator. We will decide what more we should do, alone or through the European Community and other agencies, in the light of his reports.
Philippines
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if the Commonwealth Development Corporation has decided on any additional investment in the Philippines.
The proposed project at Loreto, in which CDC were interested, was dependent on road access, the finance for which has not been forthcoming. CDC is therefore proceeding no further with the project at the present time. The CDC has no other plans for new projects in the Philippines.
Transport
M25 Motorway (Accident)
asked the Secretary of State for Transport if, in his examination of data about the M25 disaster, he will inquire into (a) the number of police cars deployed at the time and (b) whether the road signals were working and were conveying the appropriate information.
I refer the hon. Member to my reply to my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Folkestone and Hythe (Mr. Howard) on 12 December 1984 at column 528.
Railway Investment
asked the Secretary of State for Transport what sums of public money have been invested in the railways in each of the last 10 years.
Investment by the British Railways Board is shown in the table. Railways in Northern Ireland are the responsibility of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland.
| £ million—cash prices | ||||||
| £million—(1984 prices) | ||||||
| Year | Expenditure on Capital and Revenue Investment | Expenditure on Continuous Welded Rail | Total | |||
| 1974 | 106 | (354) | 42 | (140) | 148 | (494) |
| 1975 | 166 | (435) | 50 | (131) | 216 | (566) |
| 1976 | 192 | (438) | 47 | (107) | 239 | (545) |
| 1977 | 204 | (408) | 55 | (110) | 259 | (518) |
| 1978 | 235 | (423) | 70 | (126) | 305 | (549) |
| 1979 | 287 | (451) | 69 | (108) | 356 | (559) |
| 1980 | 333 | (436) | 82 | (107) | 415 | (543) |
| 1981 | 308 | (363) | 89 | (105) | 397 | (468) |
| 1982 | 251 | (276) | 77 | (85) | 328 | (361) |
| 1983 | 276 | (290) | 105 | (110) | 381 | (400) |
Note:
Figures for 1974, 1982 and 1983 have been provided by the British Railways Board. Figures for 1975 to 1981 have been derived from table 8.1 of the "Report of the Review of Railway Finances (Vol. 1), 1983." Figures are converted to 1984 prices using the GDP market price deflator.
Motorway Warning Signs
asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will instruct officials responsible for motorway signs to introduce immediately a temporary high visibility sign system on motorways showing recent accidents and the number of fatalities at the site of such accidents to remind motorists of the dangers.
No. Motorways generally are much safer than other roads and such signs would be distracting.
Speed Limits
asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will estimate the cost of accidents on non-built up roads with (a) speed limits of 60 mph and (b) speed limits of 70 mph in each case where there is no street lighting.
In 1983 the total costs of accidents in darkness on unlit non-built up roads with a speed limit of 60 mph is estimated at about £200 million. The equivalent figure for such roads with a 70 mph speed limit is £44 million.These figures comprise resource costs and an allowance for pain, grief and suffering.
asked the Secretary of State for Transport what proportion of non-built up roads come under his jurisdiction; and if he will give the figures for those with speed limits of 50 mph, 60 mph and 70 mph respectively.
The proportion of non-built up roads in England that are under the jurisdiction of the Secretary of State for Transport was 6·2 per cent. at 1 April 1984.Of these roads 1·5 per cent. had a speed limit of 50 mph, 49·5 per cent. had a speed limit of 60 mph and 49 per cent. had a speed limit of 70 mph.
asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will estimate the cost of accidents on non-built up roads with a speed limit of 50 mph where there is no street lighting.
In 1983 the total cost of accidents in darkness on unlit non-built up roads with a speed limit of 50 mph is estimated at about £3 million.The figure comprises resource costs and an allowance for pain, grief and suffering.
Roads (Lighting)
asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will estimate the reduction in accidents which would arise from the installation of lighting on the unlit non-built up roads with a 50 mph speed limit.
The only research in this area relating specifically to roads with a 50 mph speed limit gave an inconclusive result. A copy of the research report, TRRL Report LR 586, is in the Library.
asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will estimate the likely reduction in accident costs should lighting be installed on the unlit sections of non-built-up roads with (a) 60 mph speed limits and (b) 70 mph speed limits.
Research results show the reduction in injury accidents to be extremely variable. Further studies are in hand to try to improve the information. There are no estimates of likely reductions in the costs of accidents were lighting to be provided on all these roads.
Glc (Lorry Ban)
asked the Secretary of State for Transport what criteria he will adopt in deciding whether to retain the Greater London council's current night time lorry ban if, as proposed in his latest transport consultation paper, he takes over responsibility for the Archway road from the Greater London council.
Our policy is to encourage an support local lorry management measures where they are justified. Policy on this matter was set out in my Department's circular 2/82 "Lorry controls." It is against those criteria that we would judge the case for continuing the present night-time Archway lorry ban if, as proposed, the Secretary of State assumes responsibility for that part of the Al to which the current ban applies.
London Transport
asked the Secretary of State for Transport what improvements have been initiated to the arrangements for interchange between London Regional Transport and British Rail, other than those already in hand or being planned, since the London Regional Transport Act came into effect.
While the London Regional Transport Bill was before Parliament, the operators began work on a review of interchanges. That work is now being carried forward under the auspices of the London Passenger Transport Group set up by my right hon. Friend after the London Regional Transport Act 1984 came into force. A number of interchange points are being examined with a view to identifying those where improvements could be of most benefit to travellers.
Railways (Accidents)
asked the Secretary of State for Transport how many accidents there have been on British Rail during 1984; how many people were killed and injured on each occasion; and what was found to be the cause of each accident.
So far during 1984 there have been 64 significant accidents on British Rail involving passenger trains. Significant accidents, as defined in the Department's published annual report on railway safety, are those which are actually or potentially hazardous to passengers. The accidents during 1984 have resulted in 20 deaths — 17 passengers and three railway staff — 16 serious injuries and 259 minor injuries. The causes of each accident are subject to investigation and will be covered in published reports. The total number of significant accidents in 1984 is likely to be no greater than in recent years, and considerably below the number recorded during the 1970s.
Motorways (Signs)
asked the Secretary of State for Transport at what intervals it is his Department's policy to place speed warning signs on motorways where such signs are used.
Flashing amber lights operated at the roadside by the police are provided at 3-km intervals for the opening of individual sections of new motorway. They are superseded at the same locations by remotely controlled matrix signals in the central reservation. Where there is a need to display different restrictions over individual lanes, such as on the approaches to motorway/motorway interchanges, on an elevated motorway, or on the approaches to motorway tunnels, the matrix signals are mounted at closer intervals on gantries.
asked the Secretary of State for Transport what is the cost of (a) a flashing motorway speed warning sign, (b) a motorway digital speed warning sign sited in the central reservation and (c) an overhead motorway speed warning system.
Typical costs are as follows:
London Underground
asked the Secretary of State for Transport in each of the last 10 years, how many fires have occurred on London Transport Underground, which had some effect on passenger service; and what information he has as to the cause of each fire.
The full information to reply to this question is not readily available. I shall let the hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.
asked the Secretary of State for Transport how many accidents there have been on London Transport Underground in each of the last 10 years; and, in each year, how many deaths and how many injuries have been caused.
Details of all serious accidents on London Regional Transport's railways, including the number of deaths and injuries, are given in the Department's published annual reports on railway safety, copies of which are in the Library.
Lorries (Accident Statistics)
asked the Secretary of State for Transport how many people have been killed by lorries in Greater London in each of the last five years.
It is not possible to say how many fatalities have arisen from direct collisions with lorries. However, the following data are available:
| Fatalities in Greater London in accidents involving lorries | ||
| 1982 | 1983 | |
| Lorry drivers | 1 | 1 |
| Others (including pedestrians) | 67 | 55 |
Road Accident Statistics
asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will define the term "severely injured" in relation to road accident statistics.
The term "severely injured" is not used by the Department to describe road accident severity. The categories used are fatal, serious and slight, and the definition of each of these terms is given on page 37 of "Road Accidents Great Britain 1983", a copy of which is in the Library.
Vehicle Excise Duty
asked the Secretary of State for Transport what is his current estimate of the evasion of vehicle excise duty.
A report prepared by the Government Statistical Service and published today by my Department gives an estimate of some £70 million to £110 million for the annual revenue loss; 3·5 to 5 per cent. of vehicle excise duty revenue due in Great Britain in 1984–85. The best estimate of the amount of revenue that will be lost due to evasion this financial year is £90 million—just over 4 per cent.This estimate is based on a roadside survey in June 1984. The survey identified higher than average rates of evasion in London and also indicated a particular problem relating to motor cycles. I have placed copies of the report in the Library.I am now considering what further action is required in the light of both this report and that of the Public Accounts Committee published on 2 May.
London Regional Transport (Grants)
asked the Secretary of State for Transport when he will announce his proposals for the levy on London's ratepayers in support of his grants to London Regional Transport for 1985–86; and if he will make a statement.
[pursuant to the reply, 17 December 1984, c. 68]: The following is a fuller reply.Under section 13 of the London Regional Transport Act 1984, I am empowered to make a levy on London ratepayers to cover up to two thirds of the cost of my total grants to London Regional Transport for 1985–86. Accordingly, I have today laid before Parliament a draft levy order, which is subject to affirmative resolution. This provides for a levy of 10·80 pence in the pound, estimated to raise £212 million. This is equivalent to 65·6 per cent. of my estimated expenditure on grants to LRT in 1985–86 of £323 million; the balance of £111 million comes from the Exchequer.The Government have set LRT the primary task of securing better value for money through improved efficiency. LRT's specific financial objective is to reduce the revenue support requirement to half the 1984–85 level of £190 million by 1987–88. This will enable the Government to continue to reduce the burden upon taxpayers and ratepayers, while providing for continuing substantial levels of capital investment.Substantial progress is already being made towards these goals. The element of grant for revenue support—about £125 million—is £65 million below the GLC's 1984–85 provision. At the same time, the capital element of the grant—about £200 million—is £50 million more than the GLC's budgeted capital grant for this year. Yet in 1985–86, the ratepayer will have to find only £212 million towards this programme—some £50 million less than in 1984–85 on a comparable basis.My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment has made an adjustment to the grant-related poundage schedule for London authorities in the rate support grant settlement to ensure that London ratepayers, and those elsewhere, are treated fairly following the transfer of LRT financing from local to central Government.Improving efficiency has enabled LRT to contain its proposed fares increase in January to an average of 9 per cent. which will still leave fares about 10 per cent. lower, in real terms, than they were in May 1981 when the present GLC administration took office. LRT plans to maintain underground services at their present level for 1985–86 and to reduce bus services slightly, in line with falling demand.The increase in resources for investment will enable LRT further to improve efficiency and to make public transport facilities more attractive to passengers, including, for example, a substantial programme of station modernisation on the underground.Further details of LRT's proposals for 1985–86 will be given in its annual business plan, which I understand has been published today. Copies will be made available to hon. Members.
British Transport Police
asked the Secretary of State for Transport (1) what is his policy for the future of the British Transport police;(2) if he will list the sites at which British Transport police are currently employed and those sites at which they were employed in 1979, giving the numbers employed at each site in both cases;(3) what procedures there are for vetting private security firms where they are to take over the work of the British Transport police;(4) what consultations he has had with employers and warehouse owners at the sites on which staff reductions are proposed for the British Transport police;(5) whether he is satisfied that reductions in the numbers of British Transport police will have no adverse affect on Her Majesty's Government's ability to combat drug smuggling.
[pursuant to the reply, 17 December 1984, c. 70]: The future of the British Transport police force is entirely a matter for the British Railways Board—its employer—in consultation, where necessary, with other users. The responsibility for the detailed deployment of the force rests with the chief constable, and it would be for him to produce information on this subject if he saw fit.I have no doubt that those responsible for preventing crime, including drugs trafficking, will continue to ensure that these commitments are met. The vetting of private security firms is for those who wish to employ them.
Defence
Raf Basic Trainer
71.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many jobs will be created by the combined Royal Air Force and anticipated overseas sales of each of the contenders for the Royal Air Force basic trainer contract.
It is not possible to give precise estimates for the number of jobs which would be likely to be created in connection with each of the four aircraft under consideration, taking into account prospects for overseas sales. However, in view of the fact that the bulk of the airframe and equipment work would fall to United Kingdom firms, regardless of which aircraft was chosen, the number of direct job opportunities would be substantial and run to some hundreds.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he is in a position to announce his decision on the selection of the future Royal Air Force basic trainer; and if he will make a statement.
The four competing tenders have been thoroughly evaluated by the Ministry of Defence. The evaluation has shown that two of the contenders have clear-cut advantages over the others in terms of cost and performance, which are the critical factors involved in the decision. I have therefore decided to invite best and final offers from British Aerospace and Shorts in order to clarify and amplify certain aspects of their present tenders, so that I may reach a final decision between the options, which still include the possibility of refurbishing the Jet Provost.
Raf Stations (Asbestos Cement)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many Royal Air Force stations are currently being refurbished by the Property Services Agency using asbestos cement.
This information is not held centrally and its collation may take some time. My noble Friend the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for the Armed Forces will write to the hon. Member in due course.
Aircraft Contracts
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the value of aircraft contracts which have been awarded to (a) Short Brothers, (b) British Aerospace and (c) Westlands by his Department since January 1978.
It is not our practice to reveal commercially sensitive information of this kind, but annex F of volume 1 of the "Statement on the Defence Estimates 1984" (Cmnd. 9227-I) gives an indication of the order of payments to these contractors in 1982–83.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what percentage of the aircraft business carried out by (a) Short Bros., (b) British Aerospace and (c) Westlands has been provided by his Department's contracts between January 1978 and December 1983.
Precise information of this kind could be provided only by the companies themselves.
Royal Ordnance Pension Schemes
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what will be the composition of the boards of trustees of the royal ordnance pension schemes; and if he will make a statement.
The funds of the two royal ordnance pension schemes will be vested in corporate trustees. The boards of directors of each trustee company will comprise, in addition to a chairman who will at least in the first instance be the chairman of the Royal Ordnance plc, five directors representing the management of the company and five directors representing the work force. This variation from the previously intended composition announced by my hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State for Defence Procurement during the Committee stage of the Ordnance Factories and Military Services Bill— 3 April 1984, column 657—has been developed jointly as a result of proposals made by the trades unions.
Lemnos (Nato Troops)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether there are any North Atlantic Treaty Organisation troops stationed on the island of Lemnos.
I cannot add to the answer given by my hon. Friend the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs to my hon. Friend on 14 December 1984 at column 629.
General Belgrano
asked the Secretary of State for Defence how long it was before HMS Conqueror's sighting of the General Belgrano was relayed to the task force from Northwood.
[pursuant to his reply, 30 November 1984, c. 598]: It appears about half an hour.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence at what time the request from Admiral Woodward that the General Belgrano be sunk was received by Northwood.
[pursuant to his reply, 30 November 1984, c. 598]: I cannot add to the answer given by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister to the hon. Member for Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley (Mr. Foulkes) on 22 October at column 471.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence how long the elapse of time was between the drafting of the sighting report by HMS Conqueror on 1 May 1982 and its receipt by Northwood; and whether there were any communications difficulties between HMS Conqueror and Northwood.
[pursuant to his reply, 30 November 1984, c. 598]: The time between drafting and receipt is not known precisely. It is likely to have been less than half an hour.
Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs
Gibraltar
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if Her Majesty's Government will take steps to ensure that the entry of Spain to the European Economic Community does not lead to the lowering of wage rates and standards of living of citizens of Gibraltar.
I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave him on 13 December at column 600.
Lausanne Treaty
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what advice his Department has sought from international lawyers outside his Department as to the effect of the Salonika agreement upon the provisions of the treaty of Lausanne in so far as that treaty affects Britain's obligations.
In the time available it has not been possible to establish definitely whether such advice has ever been sought. But in view of the answer I gave my hon. Friend on 14 December, at column 628, such consultation is most unlikely to have been necessary.
Lemnos
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if Her Majesty's Government will now make representations to the Government of Greece about the militarisation of the island of Lemnos.
No. I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave him on 11 December at column 450.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will discuss with the Secretary General of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation the possibility of making representations to the Greek Government about, or raising in the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation Council, the issue of the militarisation of the island of Lemnos by Greece.
No. The matter is already the subject of consideration by the Secretary General of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation.
Diplomatic Service
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he is now in a position to give details of the Diplomatic Service posts which are to be closed; and if he will make a statement.
The posts are as follows:
In addition, I have decided to postpone the planned reopening of an embassy in Conakry and to merge the posts of ambassador to Austria and head of delegation to the MBFR talks in Vienna.These closures will inevitably mean that Diplomatic Service coverage in the political and consular fields and our support for exporters will not be as comprehensive as in the past, but I am satisfied that overall British interests are better protected by concentrating resources on slightly fewer areas where they are most needed.We shall be making arrangements for non-resident representation in Santo Domingo and Vientiane.We are also considering the appointment of honorary consuls where appropriate. An honorary consul gives on-the-spot assistance to British nationals who are in serious difficulties or involved in emergencies; and can also provide useful contacts with local authorities, commerce and industry.Santo Domingo, Vientiane, Antwerp, Blantyre, Cagliari, Gothenburg, Halifax, Salonika, Vigo and Zagreb.
Agriculture, Fisheries And Food
Milk Production (Super Levies)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, why the United Kingdom has to pay super levies to the EEC when the aggregate present level of milk production is below the national quota.
First-hand purchasers — where formula B is applied—or wholesale producers—where formula A is applied—and producers who sell direct are liable to levy if they exceed their own quotas. Even when national milk production is below the United Kingdom quota, therefore, some individual United Kingdom purchasers or producers may thus be liable for levy if they have not cut back enough.
Badgers
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many badgers were slaughtered in response to tuberculosis outbreaks in cattle in Cornwall in each of the last 10 years.
No realistic estimates can be made of the number of badgers slaughtered when gassing was the main method of badger control as the setts were sealed after gassing. Since the introduction of live trapping from July 1982 the number of badgers taken in official investigations in Cornwall are as follows:
| Number | |
| 1982 (July to December) | 73 |
| 1983 | 167 |
| 1984 (January to October) | 310 |
Synthetic Alcohol
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will give details of the wine settlement agreed at the last meeting of the European Community Heads of Government; and what safeguards have been incorporated to protect the position of British producers of synthetic alcohol.
Details of the wine settlement were laid in the Library of the House on 10 December. There will be no change in the existing provisions protecting synthetic alcohol producers, but the introduction of an effective guarantee threshold, a restrictive price policy and aids for grubbing up vineyards will have a significant effect on the wine surplus and reduce the output of wine alcohol.
Food Legislation (Review)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether the review by officials of food legislation in the United Kingdom has been completed; and what further action the Government propose to take.
The review by officials of the relevant Departments has been completed and a report submitted to Ministers. My right hon. Friends and I have studied this report and agreed that a consultative document which discusses many aspects of the legislation should be published. Interested organisations representing consumer, manufacturing, retail, health, enforcement and many other groups will be invited to comment on the proposals contained in the document, and on the basis of the representations received we shall consider whether any changes in the law would be desirable.
Agricultural Arbitrators
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will announce the date for the transfer of responsibility for the appointment of agricultural arbitrators in England and Wales from Agriculture Ministers to the president of the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors.
Section 8 of the Agricultural Holdings Act 1984 provides for the transfer of the Agriculture Ministers' current responsibilities for the appointment of agricultural arbitrators in England and Wales to the president of the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors. I indicated during the passage of this legislation that the transfer would not take place for at least a year after Royal Assent. Following consultations with the president, my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Wales and I are proposing to give effect to the transfer as from 1 January 1986. We have decided to announce this now so that the industry will have sufficient notice. I will be making a further statement relating to the detailed arrangements for the transfer towards the end of 1985. These arrangements will be fully discussed with the industry beforehand.Three statutory instruments will be required to give effect to the transfer and these will be laid before Parliament during the autumn of 1985.
Education And Science
College-Employer Links Project
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will make a progress report on the college-employer links project.
Good progress is being made in this important venture, which has the support of employer associations, local education authorities and colleges, the further education examining and validating bodies, MSC, HMI and other bodies.Project directors, supported by local steering commit-tees of employer, college and other interests, are at work in the eight local education authority areas invited to participate in the project — Birmingham, Bradford, Cleveland, Ealing, Hertfordshire, Lancashire, Leeds and Wiltshire. Their inquiries of employers and colleges in their area about the effectiveness of links and the appropriateness of college courses to employers' needs are continuing, but a number of key issues have been identified: for example, the problems in serving small businesses; successful integration of in-house company training and college provision, both college-based and "in-plant"; the effectiveness of the advisory machinery in colleges and of employer input and appraisal of courses at both college and LEA level; and staff development needs in colleges and the contribution employers can make to meeting these. In most areas it has been agreed that the studies should concentrate on particular subject areas—examples are engineering, electronics, textiles, information technology, hotel and catering, robotics — and/or particular colleges in the project area. Close contact is being maintained with related initiatives sponsored by the Department and the Manpower Services Commission, particularly in the field of post-experience vocational education and training.Interim reports are expected by about Easter and final reports by about the end of next year. The department will then consider what action may be required to extend good practice.
Secondary Schools
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what criteria are applied when examining local education authority proposals to cease to maintain a secondary school.
The criteria which my right hon. Friend applies are set out in the Department's circulars 2/80 and 2/81 and in "Administrative Memorandum 4/84", copies of which I am sending to my hon. Friend.
Secondary School Reorganisation (Liverpool)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will make a statement on the future of Aigburth Vale girls' school and other schools affected by secondary school reorganisation in Liverpool.
On 6 August 1984 my right hon. Friend approved Liverpool city council's proposals, published on 4 November 1983, for the reorganisation of county secondary schools with modifications to retain Holly lodge county secondary school for girls and West Derby county secondary school for boys and to defer implementation until August 1985. The authority is now required to implement these proposals as modified, including the establishment of a new school by amalgamation of Aigburth vale girls' school and Quarry bank high school.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will make a statement on the provision of resources and facilities in the reorganised Roman Catholic secondary schools in Liverpool.
Total grant aid in the order of £2·52 million to £3 million will have been paid by the Department on capital building projects arising solely from Roman Catholic secondary reorganisation over the period since 1982–83; and my right hon. Friend will continue to afford what priority he can within the resources available nationally to support the work required to allow the full implementation of the Liverpool Roman Catholic secondary reorganisation. As the hon. Member is aware, the Department has taken up with Liverpool local education authority the question of the provision of furniture and equipment at the St. Francis Xaviers school in the light of the authority's refusal to purchase those items which are the property of the Society of Jesus, the former proprietor of the school
Single-Sex Schools (Liverpool)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what single-sex school provision will be available to parents in south Liverpool from September 1985.
My right hon. Friend excluded Holly lodge girls school and West Derby boys school, in order to retain an element of single-sex provision in the county secondary sector, when he approved Liverpool city council's proposals under section 12 of the Education Act 1980 to reorganise county secondary provision. These proposals did not affect the voluntary sector where single-sex provision also continues to be available.
Dyslexic Children
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he is satisfied that local education authorities possess adequate resources for providing improved learning facilities for dyslexic children.
Yes. Provided that cost increases can be contained, the Government's plans will allow the great majority of authorities in aggregate to make some improvement in pupil teacher ratios in special education and to maintain their non-teaching costs per pupil at 1982–83 levels. It is, however, for LEAs to determine the allocation of their resources.
Books And Periodicals (Prices)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what information he has as to the change in price levels of books and periodicals of the type purchased by educational establishments since 1980; if he has any information on the effect of these price changes on the level of purchases; and what account he takes of expenditure incurred by educational establishments on books and periodicals in formulating his general education policies.
Various indices can be used to measure changes in the price of books and periodicals. They include the Publishers Association's index of school book prices, the books, periodicals and binding element of the index of changes in university recurrent costs and the books element of the retail price index. These indices show increases between 1980 and 1984 of some 40 per cent., 70 per cent., and 80 per cent., respectively. The overall retail price index—all items except food—rose by some 50 per cent. over the period. The Department does not collect information on the number of books and periodicals purchased by educational establishments —the measure most clearly affected by price changes. Actual expenditure is subject to a large number of factors. The
| Part of relevant income to which specified percentage applies | One assisted pupil | Each of two assisted pupils | Each of three assisted pupils |
| per cent. | per cent. | per cent. | |
| That part which exceeds £6,210 but does not exceed £6,750 | 9 | 6·75 | 5·25 |
| That part (if any) which exceeds £6,750 but does not exceed £7,300 | 12 | 9 | 7 |
| That part (if any) which exceeds £7,300 but does not exceed £8,400 | 15 | 11·25 | 8·75 |
| That part (if any) which exceeds £8,400 but does not exceed £10,080 | 21 | 15·75 | 12·25 |
| That part (if any) which exceeds £10,080 but does not exceed £12,280 | 24 | 18 | 14 |
| That part (if any) which exceeds £12,280 | 33 | 24·75 | 19·25 |
Higher Education
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he is able to announce his decisions on local authority higher education provisions in 1985–86 and on the distribution of the advanced further education pool for 1985–86; and if he will make a statement.
I have today written to the chairman of the committee of the National Advisory Body (NAB) accepting in its entirety its advice on the planned disposition of academic provision and of students in local authority higher education (LAHE) in 1985–86, and on the basis for distributing the advanced further education (AFE) quantum of £620 million for the financial year 1985–86 which I announced in the House on 12 November at column 57.These plans provide for a further 3 per cent. growth overall in student numbers in LAHE compared with the targets set for 1984–85 and for maintenance of the thrust of the policies embodied in those targets; most notably, the preservation of student access and a continued shift in the Government believe that the purchase of books is an area to which priority should be given, within the resources available, in all sectors of education.
16-Plus Examination
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how his curricular objectives of breadth and balance may be encouraged through the new single system of 16-plus examinations; and if he will make a statement.
My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Wales and I are issuing today a consultation paper setting out our proposals for distinction and merit certificates within the general certificate of secondary education examination. Our objective is to encourage the abler pupils, in particular, to pursue broad and balanced examination courses in the fourth and fifth years of secondary education. Copies of the consultative paper have been placed in the Libraries of both Houses. Comments are invited by the end of April 1985.
Assisted Places Scheme
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will make a statement about the level of parental contributions to the fees of pupils in the assisted places scheme in 1985–86.
Subject to the usual consultations and to parliamentary approval, the parental contribution scales will be adjusted upwards for the school year 1985–86 in line with earnings, as follows:balance of provision towards science, engineering and other vocational disciplines, and towards sub-degree and part-time provision.As I announced on 12 November, the AFE quantum for 1985–86 is over 7·5 per cent. higher than that for 1984–85, when allowance is made for the abolition of the national insurance surcharge. Provided that costs can be contained, the increased quantum should permit broadly the same resources per student in LAHE to be made available in 1985–86 as planned in 1984–85. But, compared with the latest actual levels of expenditure, this still entails continuing reductions in unit costs and in lecturer numbers, and attainment of the 12:1 average student-staff ratio adopted by the NAB as a target for local authority higher education.The greater part of the £620 million total is being allocated to local education authorities in relation to target student numbers for 1985–86 by institution, mode of attendance and subject. The allocations are being made in such a way as to continue the pressure of high spending institutions to reduce their costs and to afford increased protection to the more economical institutions. The allocations announced today also include, for a few selected institutions, sums to a total value of £280,000 in support of a biotechnology initiative. A sum of £2·5 million has been set aside for selective support of research in a number of major institutions. I shall announce my decision on the distribution of that sum in the light of further advice from the NAB early in the new year.Letters are today being sent to local education authorities and institutions notifying them of my decisions. Copies of my letter to the NAB committee chairman, of a note explaining the method by which the AFE quantum for 1985–86 is being distributed, and full details of the allocations—excluding the selective research element—have been placed in the Libraries of both Houses.
Social Services
Generic Prescribing
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the cheapest drug tariff, part V A and V D, price for each of the following drugs and for the most expensive branded form of the drug currently available to National Health Service practitioners: Amitriptyline, Ampicillin, Diazepam, Frusemide, Imipramine, Indomethacin, Methyldopa, Nitrazepam, Propanolol and Temazepam; and if he will estimate the total annual difference in cost to the National Health Service if all prescriptions for the above drugs were dispensed in generic forms rather than branded forms.
The following comparisons are given of the most commonly prescribed strength and pack sizes at current prices.
| Strength | Pack Size | Drug | Drug Tariff | Branded |
| mg | Price (£) | Price (£) | ||
| 25 | 500 | Amitriptylin | 3·84 | 10·28 |
| 250 | 100 | Ampicillin | 2·56 | 7·34 |
| 5 | 1,000 | Diazepam | 2·32 | 13·62 |
| 40 | 500 | Frusemide | 2·80 | 27·14 |
| 25 | 500 | Imipramine | 2·71 | 15·75 |
| 25 | 500 | Indomethacin | 5·66 | 24·85 |
| 250 | 1,000 | Methyldopa | 19·71 | 59·40 |
| 5 | 500 | Nitrazepam | 2·20 | 12·02 |
| 40 | 1,000 | Propanolol | 5·57 | 39·70 |
| 10 | 100 | Temazepam | not listed | 4·88 |
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his estimate of the aggregate annual savings which would be made if Mogadon, Valium, Lasix, Panadol and Aldomet were to be prescribed in their therapeutical equivalents by generic names.
If all prescriptions for the drugs named had been dispensed in their generic rather than proprietary form it is estimated that the difference in cost would have been £16 ·7 million (gross). This estimate relates to family practitioner services in England only in 1983, the latest year for which figures are available.
Clinical Psychologists
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many clinical psychologists are employed within each regional health authority; and how those figures compare with the norms recommended by the Trethowan report in 1977.
Provisional numbers of clinical psychologists employed within each regional health authority as at 30 September 1983 are given in the table. In addition, a further 16 ·3 whole-time equivalents were on the staff at London postgraduate teaching hospitals, giving a total for England of 1306 ·6 whole-time equivalents.The Trethowan report (1977) on the role of psychologists in the health services recommended that the number of clinical psychologists employed be increased to about 1,100 for England and Wales over a period of six to seven years, as a minimum target for the shorter term. This minimum target has been exceeded.
| NHS Clinical Psychologists as at 30 September 1983 (Provisional Figures) | ||
| Regional Health Authority | Whole-time equivalents | (per 100,000 population) |
| Northern | 74·2 | (2·4) |
| Yorkshire | 77·2 | (2·1) |
| Trent | 91·0 | (2·0) |
| East Anglia | 46·4 | (2·4) |
| North West Thames | 115·9 | (3·4) |
| North East Thames | 125·7 | (3·4) |
| South East Thames | 112·6 | (3·1) |
| South West Thames | 99·9 | (3·4) |
| Wessex | 60·2 | (2·1) |
| Oxford | 47·9 | (2·0) |
| South Western | 101·1 | (3·3) |
| West Midlands | 110·7 | (2·1) |
| Mersey | 62·8 | (2·6) |
| North Western | 164·9 | (4·1) |
| TOTAL (ENGLAND) | 1290·3 | (2·8) |
Doctors (Training)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many doctors are currently training in the National Health Service and what were the figures for 1960, 1970, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982 and 1983, respectively.
All doctors below consultant grade in the main hospital grades are undergoing further and often highly specialised training prior to obtaining full clinical autonomy although, they are all qualified doctors and some are senior and experienced. On that basis there were 24,255 qualified doctors in NHS training grades in England, including locums and university staff in honorary NHS contracts at 30 September 1983. More recent information is not yet available. Exactly comparable figures for earlier years are not available, but the table gives the numbers in the training grades of the hospital service, in community medicine and in the general medical services (excluding locums in each case) for the years 1963, 1970, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982 and 1983.
Doctors in NHS training grades in England 1963–1983
| ||||
Year
| Total
| Hospital Services*
| Community-Medicine†
| General Medical Services†
|
| 1963 | n.a. | 10,045 | n.a. | 195 |
| 1970 | n.a. | 12,958 | n.a. | 194 |
| 1979 | 20,934 | 19,671 | 120 | 1,143 |
| 1980 | 21,745 | 20,258 | 134 | 1,353 |
| 1981 | 22,470 | 20,761 | 148 | 1,561 |
| 1982 | 22,707 | 20,946 | 184 | 1,577 |
| 1983 | 23,196 | 21,358 | 214 | 1,624 |
* Permanent paid and honorary doctors in post at 30 September in the following grades: senior registrar, registrar, senior house officer, house officer. | ||||
| † Permanent paid staff in post at 30 September each year in the following grades: senior registrar, registrar and senior house officer. | ||||
| ‡ Trainees in post at 1 October each year. | ||||
Debendox
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what investigations the Committee on Safety of Medicines has made into the possible teratogenic effects of the drug Debendox; and what its findings were.
The committee considered the safety of Debendox on eight occassions, the last being in March 1983. On each occasion the committee's advice was that there was no acceptable scientific evidence that Debendox caused harm to the foetus.
Doctors (Retirement)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the retirement age for general practitioners.
I refer the hon. Member to my reply to the hon. Member for Wolverhampton, North-East (Mrs. Short) on 17 May, at column 258.
Wellfield Site, Hatfield
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what representations his Department will be making regarding the planned development of the
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | |
| Year | Total no. of deaths | Grants paid at full rate | Grants paid at reduced rate | Deaths, where no grant was paid |
| 1974 | 650 | 381 | 163 | 106 |
| 1975 | 646 | 408 | 153 | 85 |
| 1976 | 664 | 419 | 146 | 99 |
| 1977 | 638 | 435 | 132 | 71 |
| 1978 | 651 | 458 | 125 | 68 |
| 1979 | 659 | 474 | 119 | 66 |
| 1980 | 645 | 482 | 111 | 52 |
| 1981 | 642 | *487 | *104 | 51 |
| 1982 | 647 | 505 | 92 | 50 |
| 1983 | 643 | 514 | 86 | 43 |
Notes:
1. All figures are in 1000s.
2. Figures annotated * are estimates only owing to industrial action.
3. Column 4 includes cases where no claim was made.
Wellfield site in Hatfield for the expansion of geriatric and other patient care by the health authority to the forthcoming inquiry; and if he will make a statement.
I understand the chairman of the East Hertfordshire health authority will be presenting the health authority's case for the proposals at the forthcoming inquiry on behalf of my right hon. Friend. I am not aware that the chairman has requested any representative of the Department to attend or submit formal evidence.
Death Grant
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) how many men born before 5 July 1883, and how many women born before 5th July 1888, are ineligible for the full death grant;(2) what was the total number of deaths in Great Britain in each of the last 10 years; and whether he will estimate for each of those years the number of cases where no payment or payment at a reduced rate of the death grant was made;(3) whether he will publish in the
Official Report the present rates of the death grant for an adult, on full benefit, for a child aged under three years, for a child between three to five years and for a child aged between six and 17 years;
(4) what rate of grant is payable for the death of people who were within 10 years of pension age in July 1948 and born between 5 July 1883 and 4 July 1893 in the case of a man and between 5 July 1888 and 4 July 1898 in the case of a woman.
The present rates of the national insurance death grant are as follows:
| £ | |
| Child under 3 | 9·00 |
| Child 3–5 | 15·00 |
| Child 6–17 | 22·50 |
| Adult 17 and over | 30·00 |
| Man born 5 July 1883–4 July 1893 or woman born 5 July 1888–4 July 1898 | 15·00 |
| Stillborn child or man born before 5 July 1893 or woman born before 5 July 1888 | No grant |
In June 1983 in England and Wales there were an estimated 1,500 men born before 5 July 1883 and 28,500 women born before 5 July 1888. (Figures for Scotland are not available in this form).
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) on how many occasions, in what years and by what amount the death grant has been increased since it was first introduced;(2) by what amount the purchasing power of the death grant has decreased since 1967;(3) by what amount the existing death grant would need to be increased to restore it to the 1967 value of the grant;(4) by what amount the existing death grant would need to be increased to restore it to its 1949 value.
The standard rate of the death grant was introduced at £20 in 1949. It was increased to £25 in 1958 and to the present rate of £30 in 1967.The grant would need to be raised to £175 to restore its 1967 value or £225 to restore the 1949 value. The purchasing power of the grant has declined by 82·per cent. since 1967.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Service (1) whether he will publish in the Official Report the names of the organisations which made representations to his Department in response to the consultative document "The Death Grant", of March 1982;(2) whether he will publish in full in the
Official Report the foreword by the Minister for Social Security to the consultative document "The Death Grant".
A copy of "The Death Grant, A Consultative Document" containing the foreword published in March 1982 is available in the Library. The names of the organisations who made representations to the Department in response to the consultative document on the death grant are as follows. Where a national organisation or trades union is listed, local or regional branches may also have made submissions. Representations were also received from a number of health authorities, local authorities, councils of social service, councils of voluntary service, welfare committees, war pensions committees, funeral directors, community health councils, constituency parties, academics and private individuals:
- National Association of Health Authorities in England and Wales.
- Age Concern.
- Dounreay Retirement Fellowship.
- Tyne, Wear, Durham and District Pensioners'Association.
- The Officers' Association.
- National Association of Fire Brigade Pensioners.
- Bristol Good Companion Service.
- Transport and General Workers Union.
- British Pensioners' and Trade Union Action Association.
- The Leukaemia Society.
- Pensioners' Voice.
- Association of Metropolitan Authorities.
- Rosewell Old Age Pensioners' Association.
- Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen's Families Association.
- Royal Naval Association.
- Trades Union Congress.
- Association of District Committees for the Health and Personal Social Services, Northern Ireland.
- Amalgamated Society of Boilermakers, Shipwrights, Blacksmiths and Structural Workers.
- National Deaf Children's Society.
- Association of District Councils.
- Dundee Association for Social Service.
- Multiple Sclerosis Society, Association of Scottish Branches.
- Catholic Women's League.
- Scottish Old Age Pensioners' Association.
- Northern Ireland Consumer Council.
- Convention of Scottish Local Authorities.
- Royal British Legion.
- Scottish Society for the Mentally Handicapped.
- Cruse.
- Health Visitors' Association.
- War Veterans Association.
- National Union of Teachers.
- The Mothers' Union.
- Women's Institute.
- Association of Scottish Local Health Councils.
- Citizen's Advice Bureau.
- War Widows Association of Great Britain.
- Confederation of Health Service Employees.
- National Association of Funeral Directors.
- Society of Graphical and Allied Trades.
- Soroptimist International of Great Britain and Ireland.
- The Labour Party, National Labour Women's Committee.
- Civil Service Pensioners' Alliance.
- Help the Aged.
- Association of Local Authorities of Northern Ireland.
- Public Service Pensioners' Council.
- Dundee Trades Council.
- Leicester and District Traders Council.
- Westminster Active Pensioners.
- Flint and District Unions Trades Council (Clwyd).
- Oxford Consumers Group.
- National Federation of Post Office and British Telecom Pensioners.
- West Midlands Pensioners' Convention.
- Methodist Local Preachers Mutual Aid Association.
- Amalgamated Union of Engineering Workers.
- Exeter Municipal Charities.
- Plaid Cymru.
- Institute of Home Help Organisers.
- Paisley and District Trades Council Senior Citizens.
- Family Service Unit.
- War Widows Association of Great Britain.
- Board for Social Responsibility.
- South Tyneside Disablement Advisory Centre.
- Inner London Education Authority Central Committee of Divisional Associations of School Care Workers.
- Institute of Burial and Cremation Administration.
- Deanery of Telford Severn Gorge.
- Sheffield Pensioners' Action Group.
- Women's National Commission.
- British Limbless Ex-Servicemen's Association.
- Amalgamated Union of Engineering and Foundry Workers.
- Association of County Councils.
- The Retirement Association of Northern Ireland.
- Churches Central Committee for Community Work.
- Shafton Tenants and Residents Association.
- St. Katherines Centre, Welfare Rights Office, Aberdeen.
- The National Housewives Association Ltd.
- Moray District Federation of Community Halls and Associations.
- Brittle Bone Society.
- National Association of Widows.
- Standing Conference of Women's Organisations.
- Over 60 Club, Bradninch, Exeter.
- Society of Civil and Public Servants.
- The Crypt Youth Centre, Wolverhampton.
- Christie Hospital and Holt Radium Institute.
- Durham County Federation of Community Organisations.
- London Boroughs Association.
- Tooting Action Pensioners.
- National Council of Women of Great Britain.
- National Union of Hosiery and Knitwear Workers.
- Royal Air Force Association.
- Liberal Party, Taxation and Social Security Panel.
- Church of Ireland, Armagh Diocesan Board of Social Responsibility.
- Scottish Legal Action Group.
- University Grants Committee.
- Co-operative Union Ltd., Parliamentary Committee.
- Dignity in Death Alliance.
- Royal Devon and Exeter Hospital.
- Western General Hospital.
- Portchester Crematorium Joint Committee.
- Peterborough Trades Union Council.
- National Consumer Council.
- Task Force Working with Pensioners.
- Spastics Society.
- The Foundation for the Study of Infant Deaths.
- Society of St. Vincent de Paul.
- United Kingdom Federation of Business and Professional Women.
- Sale Moor Afternoon Townswomen's Guild.
- Scottish Paraplegic Association.
- Greater London Pensioners' Trade Union Action Association.
- General Federation of Trade Unions.
- National Council for the Single Woman and her Dependants.
- Royal Institution for the Blind.
- Hetton Area Rights Centre.
- Anatomical Society of Great Britain and Ireland.
- Co-operative Funeral Service Managers' Association.
- Co-operative Women's Guild.
- Association of Charity Officers.
- Welsh Consumer Council.
- National Association of Local Government Officers.
- Conference of Metropolitan Deans.
- Alder Hey Children's Hospital.
- Association of Community Health Councils.
- Law Society of Scotland.
- Biddulph Moor Evergreen Club.
- Scottish TUC.
- Association of Shetland Community Councils.
- National Joint Committee of Working Women's Organisations.
- Scottish Association for Mental Health.
- Manchester Trade Union Council, Pensioners and Trade
- Unionists Association.
- The Joint Group on Funeral Services.
- Northamptonshire Association of Trades Councils.
- Association of Retired Council Officers.
- NHS Retirement Fellowship.
- Durham Association of Parish and Town Councils.
- Association of Grampian District Councils.
- Catholic Social Services, Liverpool.
- Order of St. John of Jerusalem and the British Red Cross Society.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will estimate, for the latest year for which figures are available, the total expenditure on the death grant; whether he will estimate the cost represented by administration; and whether he will estimate comparable figures for the costs of supplementary benefits.
In 1983–84, the latest date for which figures are available, the estimated cost of the death grant was £29·2 million, including administrative costs of approximately £12·5 million. For the amount of supplementary benefit paid in respect of funeral expenses I refer my hon. Friend to my reply to him on 17 December, at column 47. The administrative cost of making such payments in 1982 was somewhat over £100,000.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) whether the foreword by the Minister for Social Security to the consultative document, "The Death Grant", still represents Government policy; and if he will make a statement;(2) whether he is satisfied with the workings of the Social Security Act 1975, section 32, schedule 3, paragraph 7 and Schedule 4, part II; and whether he will make a statement;(3) whether he will bring forward proposals for the payment of a death grant to those parents on supplementary benefit who have suffered the loss of a stillborn baby; and if he will make a statement.
The existing provisions operate satisfactorily in that there is a take up of death grant of more than 90 per cent., although it is recognised that this no longer represents a significant contribution towards funeral costs. The purpose of the consultative document issued in 1982 was to determine whether there was a consensus in favour of a scheme which directed the available resources towards those most in need of assistance. None of the proposals in the document received popular approval and the future of the death grant, including the categories to be covered, is now being considered in the context of the formulation of wider Government proposals for the future of social security.
Attendance Allowance
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how his Department monitors claims for attendance allowance when the recipient moves from private accommodation to a local authority supported private home.
Notes in payment order books require a claimant to notify the Department of any change in circumstances which may affect his entitlement to attendance allowance. Entry into residential accommodation which is provided by or with the help of a public or local authority is one such change which is specified to be reported.
National Insurance Contributions
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what total contributions were made to the national insurance system in money terms by a male and a female employee retiring at the most convenient recent date, after a career in full employment at the national average wage; and what the total figures would have been if each year's contributions had been upvalued at compound interest of 2½ per cent. per annum and at the rate of increase of the retail price index.
From 1948, when the national insurance system started, to April 1984, the total figures are as follows:
| Males £ | Females £ | |
| Total actual NI contributions | 4,728·36 | 3,178·76 |
| Total actual NI contributions compounded each year by 2·5 per cent. | 5,490·59 | 3,748·43 |
| Total actual NI contributions uprated by the RPI | 9,803·21 | 7,087·10 |
Population Statistics
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the official figure of females over 60 years of age and males over 65 years of age in the United Kingdom.
The estimates for 30 June 1983 are:
| Number | |
| Females aged 60 and over | 6,793,600 |
| Males aged 65 and over | 3,300,000 |
Housing Benefit
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what steps he intends to take to ensure that local authorities which are eligible to operate a high rent scheme under the system of housing benefit but have not yet applied for authorisation are encouraged to apply.
The conditions for authorisation of high rent schemes have been brought to the attention of all local authorities. Whether to apply is entirely a matter for local decision.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he expects to introduce the amendments to the housing benefit regulations referred to in his reply to the hon. Member for Cornwall, North (Mr. Neale) on 16 November, Official Report, column 381.
The Housing Benefit Amendment (No. 4) Regulations were laid before the House today. The regulations close the unintended loophole in the housing benefit regulations which allowed a grown-up son or daughter living at home to receive a rent allowance for the rent element of any board and lodging payment made to his or her parents. They also introduce measures to prevent abuse of the scheme by the creation of joint tenancies and correct a defect in the regulations which prevented former licencees from receiving help with payments they have to make if they continue to occupy their accommodation after the licence to occupy has been terminated.
Limited List Prescribing
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he intends to announce a final decision about the number and scope of the limited list of pharmaceutics announced in the debate on the Queen's Speech.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what steps he intends to take to ensure that National Health Service patients affected by his proposals to limit the drugs prescribable for them are adequately informed of the changes before 1 April 1985.
We will draw up and announce the lists of the drugs which will, and will not, be prescribable under the National Health Service as soon as possible after the consultation period ends on 31 January 1985.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if, when he considers his proposal to limit the range of drugs which may be prescribed under the National Health Service, he will take account of allergies exhibited by some patients to certain generic prescriptions.
The consultations which we are undertaking with the medical profession and other interested parties are designed to ensure that, within the categories of drugs to be included in the limited list, prescribers will be able to choose from an adequate range of alternative generic drugs to meet their patients' needs.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what further representations he has received from pharmaceutical companies resultant upon his statement of 8 November; and what has been the tenor of his replies.
I have so far arranged two meetings with representatives of the Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry. In addition, our officials have had discussions with several companies affected by the proposals.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if, on the basis of his current draft of the drugs to be included on the limited list, he will estimate company by company and in total the effect on each of the pharmaceutical companies whose relevant products are currently planned to be excluded; if he will publish the estimates in the Official Report; and if he will make a statement.
No. We do not have sufficient data to make accurate estimates of this kind.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish a comparison of the prices of those products which he is currently considering placing on the limited list of medications which may be prescribed by doctors for patients under the National Health Service with the cost of their most widely-prescribed brand-name equivalents.
[pursuant to the reply, 10 December 1984, c. 383]: In 1983 the average net ingredient cost per prescription for branded products in the therapeutic categories covered by our proposals was three-and-a-half times that of prescriptions for the generic alternatives set out in the provisional list we published on 8 November. We cannot list those drugs which will remain available on NHS prescription after 1 April 1985, nor those which will not, until after the completion of our consultation with the professions and the industry.
Geriatric Beds
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many National Health Service beds for geriatrics are occupied; and what percentage this represents of the average daily occupied beds.
The average daily number of occupied beds in the specialty of geriatric medicine in 1983 was 50,797. This represents 18 per cent. of all occupied beds in NHS hospitals in England. As I explained to my hon. Friend in my reply on 4 December at column 174, aggregated bed occupancy is not a good indicator of efficient bed use.
Psychiatric Hospitals (Beds)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many patient beds are unoccupied in psychiatric hospitals and units due to shortage of nursing staff; how many wards have had to he closed for this reason in each of the last two years; how many nurses would have to be recruited and trained to correct current understaffing; if, in addition to total figures, he will give the figures for each region separately; and what action he is taking.
The information requested is not held centrally.The right hon. Member's suggestion concerning current understaffing should, however, be seen against the information in paragraph 4·52 of "The Health Service in England", which was published this year, which, among other things, showed that over five years the number of nursing staff in mental illness per 100,000 population has improved by about 22 per cent.
Blindness Allowance
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what further representations his Department has received in the last year in support of a blindness allowance; and if there is any action he will be taking now or in the foreseeable future.
We have received over 200 representations in the last year, mainly from right hon. and hon. Members, referring to the recent campaign for a blindness allowance organised by the Royal National Institute for the Blind, the National Federation of the Blind and the National League of the Blind and Disabled. As regards meetings with deputations, I refer the right hon. Member to my reply to the hon. Member for Caithness and Sutherland (Mr. Maclennan) on 29 November at column 575.On the question of the introduction of a blindness allowance, I refer the right hon. Member to my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Bournemouth, West (Mr. Butterfill) on 22 October at column
514.
Financial year
| Number of NHS pre-scriptions dispensed* (millions)
| Cross cost of prescriptions† (£ million)
| Cost as proportion of total NHS expenditure Percentage
| Income from FPS Income prescription charges (£ million)
| Income as proportion of total NHS expenditure Percentage
|
| 1974–75 | 288·8 | 296·7 | 8·6 | 23·1 | 0·7 |
| 1975–76 | 304·3 | 380·7 | 8·4 | 22·7 | 0·5 |
| 1976–77 | 305·2 | 477·5 | 9·3 | 23·1 | 0·4 |
| 1977–78 | 316·6 | 590·3 | 10·4 | 23·3 | 0·4 |
| 1978–79 | 326·2 | 699·5 | 10·8 | 24·2 | 0·4 |
| 1979–80 | 322·1 | 790·1 | 10·2 | 38·6 | 0·5 |
| 1980–81 | 318·9 | 973·7 | 9·8 | 70·8 | 0·7 |
| 1981–82 | 323·6 | 1,124·7 | 10·1 | 86·6 | 0·8 |
| 1982–83 | 332·5 | 1,290·0 | 10·6 | 102·8 | 0·8 |
| 1983–84 | 339·1 | ‡1,430·6 | 11·1 | ‡110·0 | 0·9 |
* All figures relate to prescriptions, including hospital prescriptions, dispensed in England by community pharmacists, drug stores and appliance contractors, prescriptions dispensed by dispensing doctors (excluding those dispensed under capitation fee arrangements) and items personally administered by prescribing doctors. | |||||
| † Includes the cost of fees and allowances paid for dispensing. | |||||
| ‡ Provisional. | |||||
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list in the Official Report all those dates on which the National Health Service prescription charge has been raised; and what was the new value of the charge on each of those dates.
Since its introduction in 1952, the charge paid on drugs dispensed by community pharmacists against NHS prescription has changed as follows:
Mobility Allowance
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what representations his Department has received to extend eligibility for mobility allowance to blind people in the past year.
In the past year we have received nine representations, mainly from right hon. and hon. Members, on behalf of blind people and a further twenty-nine representations on behalf of people who are deaf and blind.I also met during the year with representatives of the Deaf-Blind Helpers' League and the North Regional Association for the Blind.
Prescriptions
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what has been the total number of prescriptions issued under the National Health Service in each of the last 10 years;(2) what has been the total cost to the National Health Service of prescriptions in each of the last 10 years; and what his figure is as a percentage of the total National Health Service expenditure in each of those years;(3) what has been the total revenue from prescription charges in each of the last 10 years for which figures are available; and what this figure is as a percentage of total National Health Service expenditure in each of those years.
The information requested is set out in the table:
| Date | — |
| — | |
| 1 June 1952 | — 1/- (5p) per form |
| 1 December 1956 | — 1/-(5p) per item |
| 1 March 1961 | — 2/- (l0p) per item |
| 1 February 1965 | — prescription charges abolished |
| 10 June 1968 | — prescription charge reintroduced at 2/6d (12½p) per item |
Date
| — |
| — | |
| 1 April 1971 | — 20p per item |
| 16 July 1979 | — 45p per item |
| 1 April 1980 | — 70p per item |
| 1 December 1980 | — £1·00 per item |
| 1 April 1982 | — £1·30 per item |
| 1 April 1983 | —£1·40 per item |
| 1 April 1984 | — £1·60 per item |
Ionising Radiation
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when the Industrial Injuries Advisory Council's interim report on diseases induced by ionising radiation is to be published; and whether he will make a statement.
The council's interim report is being published today. It describes its investigation to date and explains that there is insufficient evidence at present to enable it to make any recommendations. The council proposes to look at this matter again when results from studies currently in progress are available.
Nhs (Charges)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the gross income to the National health Service from charges made for pathology and radiology work, respectively, carried out for private patients of consultants; what is the net income from each; and what is the current scale of charges.
[pursuant to the reply, 11 December 1984, c. 475.]: We do not collect this detailed information centrally.The current scale of charges for private non-resident patients is set out in appendix C of HC (84) 6 and supplementary guidance on radiological unit values for various procedures is contained in appendix C of HN (79) 28. Copies of both documents are available in the Library.