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Volume 72: debated on Thursday 31 January 1985

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Written Answers To Questions

Thursday 31 January 1985

Home Department

Coal Industry Dispute

4.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what support the Government are providing for chief constables and police authorities as a result of the burden of policing in the coal dispute.

The Government have shown the full extent of their support for the police in the unprecedented scale of our assistance with the additional costs of policing the dispute. I have already announced that for each police force area we shall meet 90 per cent. of the additional costs above the product of a penny rate and that no police authority's share of the cost will exceed the product of three quarters of a penny rate. We have also paid out advances of £128 million to help with police authorities cash flow.

29.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is considering introducing any new measures to seek to prevent intimidation.

In his review of the law on public order my right hon. and learned Friend has considered the powers of the police and the courts to deal with intimidation, but he is not yet ready to announce his conclusions. In the course of the miners' dispute the police have acted vigorously to deal with assaults and other criminal offences. For details of charges brought under section 7 of the Conspiracy and Protection of Property Act 1875, which created a specific offence of intimidation, I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply given today to a question from my hon. Friend the Member for Chislehurst (Mr. Sims).

37.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what use has been made of section 7 of the Conspiracy and Protection of Property Act 1875 during the miners' dispute.

The figures which have been regularly given in answer to questions about charges for different offences during the miners' dispute relate to the main charge brought on arrest or summons. Further charges may be added subsequently. I understand that in total 643 charges have been brought under section 7 of the Conspiracy and Protection of Property Act 1875, including those charges added at a later stage. Details are as follows:

Police force areaNumber of ChargesFor activities on picket lineSubsection charged
Derbyshire276not availablenot available
Durham1none7(1)
Dyfed Powys38none7(4)
Gwent9none7(4)
Kent34none7(4)
Nottinghamshire174907(4)
Staffordshire657(1)—5 charges
7(1)—1 charge
Warwickshire7none7(l)—3 charges
7(1) and (4)—4 charges
South Wales23none7(4)
South Yorkshire31none7(4)
West Yorkshire44none7(1)—33 charges
7(2)—11 charges
Although a detailed breakdown for Derbyshire is not available, I understand that the majority of charges there related to activities on the picket line, and the majority of prosecutions have been brought under section 7(4).

39.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he intends to make facilities available for the inquiry by the European Assembly into police conduct at pit heads.

52.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what co-operation his Department will be offering to the European Assembly's investigation on the policing of the miners' dispute.

75.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the policy of Her Majesty's Government concerning co-operation with the inquiry set up by the European Parliament to inquire into the policing of the miners' dispute in Britain.

I would refer the hon. Members to the reply which my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister gave to a question from my hon. Friend the Member for Billericay (Mr. Proctor) on 18 January, at column 238.

43.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the latest figure for miners arrested in connection with the National Union of Mineworkers — National Coal Board dispute; and if he will make a statement.

8,552 of the 9,374 people arrested in connection with the miners' dispute between 13 March and 29 January inclusive were miners.

44.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what are the maximum sentences passed by the courts for offences for which people have been convicted in connection with the miners' dispute.

63.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what sentences have been passed by the courts for the most serious offences committed during the miners' dispute.

As at 25 January 1985, 112 defendants had been dealt with by the Crown court on charges related to the miners' strike, of whom 91 had been convicted. The offences of those convicted and the sentences passed on them are as follows:

OffenceNumbers convicted by caseSentence
Affray4(1) Bound over for 18 months
(2) (3) and (4) six months suspended imprisonment
Arson and conspiracy to commit criminal damage6(1)-(5) 2 years imprisonment
(6) 2 years youth custody
Assault19 months imprisonment
19 months imprisonment
3(1) £100 fine
(2) and (3) 28 days suspended imprisonment
4Bound over for 12 months
Assault causing actual bodily harm16 months imprisonment
16 months imprisonment (3 months suspended)
114 days imprisonment
2(1) 40 days suspended imprisonment and £75 compensation
(2) £75 fine and costs
1Bound over for 12 months
1Bound over for 12 months
Causing grievous bodily harm with intent2(1) 5 years imprisonment
(2) 3 years youth custody
Criminal damage10(1) 3 years youth custody
(2) to (4) 2½ years youth custody
(5) to (10) 2½ years imprisonment
Criminal damage and arson2(1) 9 months imprisonment
(2) 9 months youth custody
Criminal damage and causing grievous bodily harm1(3) 15 months imprisonment
Criminal damage (arson)19 months imprisonment
Criminal damage14 months imprisonment
13 months suspended imprisonment
6Bound over for 12 months
Handling a vehicle without consent1£50 fine
Taking conveyance without consent1CSO
Reckless driving16 months imprisonment
Theft1Bound over for 12 months and £50 fine
Unalwful assembly16CSO
16CSO
Wounding212 months imprisonment (6 months suspended)
16 months imprisonment
1CSO and bound over for 12 months
Wounding and assault1£250 fine or 60 days

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many complaints have been lodged against the police as a result of the miners' strike; and in how many of these complaints the inquiries have been completed.

The available information is that, in the period from 13 March 1984 to 15 January 1985, 534 complaints were made against police officers relating to actions arising from the policing of the dispute and that 100 of these have been withdrawn. Information about the number of complaints in respect of which investigation has been completed could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

56.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many custodial sentences have been passed for offences committed in the course of the miners' dispute.

In the period 13 March to 29 January inclusive, 141 immediate custodial sentences were passed for offences committed in connection with the miners' dispute. These included one sentence of five years and one of three years for causing grievous bodily harm; and one sentence of three years and eight of two and a half years for arson.

58.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will make a statement about the policing of the miners' dispute.

I am glad to reaffirm our full support for the police in the action they are taking to maintain order and to ensure that those who wish to exercise their right to go to work are able to do so.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many police officers have been disciplined for incidents connected with the mining dispute; how many disciplinary charges are pending; and how many complaints have been made about the behaviour of police officers.

In the period from 13 March 1984 to 22 January 1985, 537 complaints were made against police officers relating to actions arising during the course of the dispute. 102 of these have been withdrawn. Most of the remainder are still under investigation. I understand that the Police Complaints Board will include in its annual report for 1984 statistics on the number of investigation reports received by them which they have identified as dealing with complaints arising from the policing of the miners' strike and on the outcome of the investigations.

Civil Defence

9.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Depaartment if he will collate centrally information on the training of civil defence volunteers.

Yes. Information derived from local authorities, including that from visits made by the co-ordinator of volunteer effort in civil defence, will be collated by our officials with the assistance of the new civil defence adviser.

25.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what regulatory powers the Government will apply to ensure that civil defence grants are not misused by those local authorities opposed to civil defence.

The Civil defence (Grant) Regulations 1953 (as amended) make adequate provision for this purpose.

35.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if the working party on standardisation of training of civil defence volunteers heard evidence from any volunteer bodies engaged in civil defence.

54.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what evidence was taken by the working party on standardisation of training of civil defence volunteers.

65.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether evidence was taken by the working party on standardisation of training of civil defence volunteers from any of the Devon emergency planning officers or from members of the Devon emergency volunteers.

77.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if the working party on standardisation of training of civil defence volunteers accepted any evidence from Sir Leslie Mavor.

The working party did not call for or take evidence in any formal way. It drew primarily on the experience of its members and the views it received from people such as Sir Leslie Mavor with experience in civil defence volunteer matters.

51.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will list the civil defence publications which his Department and Easingwold will make available in 1985; and what other informative materials he has plans for thereafter.

We expect to make the following documents available during the next 12 months or so:

The Consolidated Circular of Guidance to Local Authorities on Emergency Planning;
A technical handbook designed to help local authorities identify potential communal shelters;
A publication which will include advice on protective measures;
Revised material dealing with the effects of nuclear and other weapons;
A revised version of "Civil Defence—The Basic Facts";
A revised booklet on the work of the United Kingdom Warning and Monitoring Organisation;
The reports of the Home Office-Civil Defence College working party on the standardisation of training of civil defence volunteers.
In addition, we hope to have a public information film on civil defence for issue before the end of the year.

69.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many civil defence volunteers per 100,000 of the population will be needed to supply reasonable civil defence support.

The number necessary to fulfil their responsibilities under the Civil Defence Regulations is for individual local authorities to decide in the light of local circumstances.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will provide guidance for local authorities on travel and subsistence rates for civil defence volunteers.

Reasonable expenditure thus incurred is eligible for grant-aid, but the rates are a matter for individual local authorities. Nevertheless, if my hon. Friend has a particular issue in mind I would be glad to hear from him.

Crime Prevention

12.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how he intends to encourage more local effort in crime prevention.

The Home Office crime prevention unit has been actively encouraging and assisting a wide range of local initiatives aimed at preventing burglary, theft, autocrime and violence. This will continue. The unit is helping in the preparation of a report for local authorities and police forges giving examples of good practices. It is also revising the guidelines for local crime prevention panels; and promoting a number of regional panel conferences.

19.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how his Department plans to ensure that a higher priority is given by national and local government to crime prevention.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to a question from my hon. Friend the Member for Staffordshire, South-East (Mr. Lightbown) earlier today. In addition to the activities I have already referred to, we are co-operating with other central departments in giving more prominence to crime prevention nationally. The Home Office Standing Committee on Crime Prevention, which I chair myself, is considering ways of enhancing its role and influence. To stimulate public awareness a £1·5 million television and press campaign was mounted in London and the midlands last autumn.

59.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what further steps he intends to take to combat the increase in crime.

60.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what steps he proposes to take to combat the increase in violent crime.

Chief officers of police are encouraged by Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary to formulate strategies both for the prevention and investigation of crime which reflect prevailing local patterns of crime and which make best use of the resources at their disposal. Strategies for the most effective use of available resources against crime are also being developed by the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis. The Home Office crime prevention unit is supporting and encouraging local crime prevention activity involving the police, other relevant agencies and the public.An effective criminal justice strategy must include an adequate range of sentencing powers which will command confidence. In addition to measures already introduced, the Government are supporting a private Member's measure by my hon. Friend the Member for Delyn (Mr. Raffan) to increase to life imprisonment the maximum penalty for persons convicted of trafficking in class A drugs and intends to introduce at the next legislative opportunity a measure similarly to increase the maximum penalty for persons convicted of carrying firearms in furtherance of crime.

Prisons

14.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will make a statement about the use of overtime in prisons.

Overtime working by prison officers in the current year is expected to cost nearly £97 million. Prison officers are working on average about 16½ hours overtime each week. This places a severe strain on them and their families and my right hon. and learned Friend is determined to use any reasonable way which can be found of reducing it.

Television Licence Fee

20.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he plans to increase the television licence fee.

As my right hon. and learned Friend indicated in his reply to the hon. Member for Falkirk, West (Mr. Canavan) earlier today, he is considering an application from the BBC for increased licence fees.

33.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what representations he as received regarding the British Broadcasting Corporation's request for an increased licence fee.

50.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make a statement about the British Broadcasting Corporation's application for an increase in its licence fee.

61.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many letters he has received on the subject of the cost of a television licence since the beginning of the Session.

I refer my hon. Friends to the reply given to a question from the hon. Member for Falkirk, West (Mr. Canavan) earlier today.

70.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he next proposes to discuss the licence fee with the British Broadcasting Corporation.

My right hon. and learned Friend has no plans at present for a meeting with the BBC.

Wartime Broadcasting Service

21.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will take steps to incorporate the existing links between local authorities and their local radio stations into the wartime broadcasting service.

The purpose of the wartime broadcasting service is to ensure the survival of a basic national and regional sound broadcasting service if normal systems fail after a nuclear attack. The service will be extended to include local radio stations as appropriate and as resources permit.

Entry Clearance (Statistics)

22.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, for the last 12 months, what percentage of refusals of entry clearance through the operation of the primary purpose rule was accounted for by men from the Indian subcontinent.

This information is not available because the collection of the necessary data is confined to the Indian subcontinent.

32.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the average time taken to hear (a) an appeal from abroad against refusal of an entry clearance and (b) an appeal by a person in the United Kingdom against refusal to vary leave to remain; and what were the comparable waiting times in 1979.

I understand from the appellate authorities that appeals from abroad against refusal of an entry clearance can be heard by an adjudicator by between three and nine months from the date on which the appellant's representative in the United Kingdom signifies his readiness to proceed with the appeal, depending on the centre at which the appeal is heard. Appeals against refusal of variation of leave to remain are heard on average between two to three months from the date on which the appeal is received by the appellate authorities.During 1979 the average delay for all appeals was 14 months.

36.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many applications for settlement on behalf of children were refused in the latest 12-month period because entry certificates had not been obtained prior to arrival in the United Kingdom.

According to the readily available information, during the 12 months ending September 1984, a total of about 190 persons claiming to be dependants, including about 110 from the Commonwealth, were refused admission to the United Kingdom at ports of entry when seeking to enter for settlement without the entry clearance required by the immigration rules. To identify the number of children within these totals would involve disproportionate cost and it is not possible to say how many of the persons concerned would have qualified for and been granted entry certificates had they applied.

71.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what further representations he has received about the operation of the primary purpose rule in relation to applications for entry clearance by husbands of British citizens.

During the last 12 months representations have been received from several sources, including right hon. and hon. Members, most of whom were writing on behalf of constituents. It is not possible, without disproportionate cost, to give precise figures.

Visiting Forces Act

23.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will now take steps to gather information on the number of occasions on which visiting forces have claimed primary jurisdiction for their nationals under the terms of the Visiting Forces Act.

Police And Fire Services

24.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many, and which, metropolitan district councils have indicated an interest in controlling police and fire services within their area.

At the time of their initial response to "Streamlining the Cities" (Cmnd. 9063), six metropolitan districts (Rochdale, Wirral, Sefton, Solihull, Dudley and Wolverhampton) indicated their interest in various forms of district involvement with the police and fire services.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is his estimate of the cost of providing effective, fully operational headquarters for (a) police and (b) fire services for each metropolitan district area where this facility does not exist; and if he will list these costs.

Drugs (Young Persons)

26.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is planning any further measures to prevent young people experimenting with dangerous drugs.

My right hon. and learned Friend the Minister for Health has announced that the Government intend to launch a major education and prevention campaign directed at parents and young people. An advertising agency has now been asked to develop proposals for the campaign, taking into account information derived from market research commissioned by the Government.

Prevention Of Terrorism

27.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if the use of the prevention of terrorism legislation over the recent Christmas period will be included in the first annual review of the Prevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provisions) Act 1984.

Yes, but Sir Cyril Philips' task is concerned with the pattern of use of the powers under the Act; he will not be reporting in relation to individual cases.

53.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what further plans he has to combat terrorism.

I would refer my hon. Friend to my statement of 22 January, at columns 864–876, in which I announced new measures to combat terrorism. The Government will continue to monitor developments closely and give all necessary support to the agencies of law and order. We shall also continue to play a full part internationally in encouraging consultation and co-operation with other Governments in this field.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department at what point persons who are detained under the provisions of the Prevention of Terrorism Act are logged as being a notifiable statistic; whether persons interviewed by police officers at ports of entry, including airports, under the provisions of the Act are advised that they are being so detained; how the procedure has varied between the Prevention of Terrorism Acts 1974, 1976 and the 1984 Act; if persons who are asked to fill in a card giving their details and whereabouts whilst in Ireland are notified as being examined under the provisions of the Act; and whether there have been any changes in statistical analysis of persons detained under the provisions of the 1984 Act and of the 1974 and 1976 Acts.

All detentions under the Prevention of Terrorism Act or the supplemental order are recorded for statistical purposes. However, a person may be examined at a port for up to 12 hours without being detained; such examinations are recorded after one hour and at that point the person is notified in writing of his position. A person may be required under the supplemental order to complete a landing or embarkation card, but that would not be recorded for statistical purposes unless he was subsequently examined for more than one hour or detained.There were no specific provisions on the collection of statistics or advice to persons examined in the 1974, 1976 or 1984 Acts. Full statistics on the operation of the legislation have been collected and published from 1979 in a series of quarterly bulletins, following a recommendation by Lord Shackleton; statistics of those examined for more than one hour but not detained have been collected and published from 1984, following a recommendation by Lord Jellicoe.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will indicate the number of people held under the Prevention of Terrorism Act between 1 January 1983 and the present; and of these how many were detained (a) whilst Parliament was in recess and (b) while Parliament was sitting.

[pursuant to his reply, 21 January 1985, c. 275]: Information on detentions under the Prevention of Terrorism Acts is given in tables 1 and 2 of the latest quarterly Home Office Statistical Bulletin, issue No. 1/85. Of the total of 394 detained in 1983 and 1984, 120 were detained while Parliament was in recess, and 274 while Parliament was sitting.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will indicate the number of people held under the Prevention of Terrorism Act from 1983 onwards together with (a) a breakdown of this total by country of origin, (b) the number of these whose period of detention was extended by his Department who were subsequently charged, (c) the number of these whose period of detention was extended by his Department who were subsequently released without charge and (d) a breakdown of the reasons for his Department's decision to extend the period of detention.

[pursuant to his reply, 21 January 1985, c. 275]: The available information is given in the following table. I consider personally applications for extensions of detention; each decision is taken on an individual basis and it would not be appropriate for me to discuss the reasons for them.

Persons detained under the Prevention of Terrorism Acts, 1983–84 Great Britain
Number
Country of birthNumber detainedof which Detention extended
ChargedNot charged
United Kingdom
England3734
Wales4
Scotland26210
Northern Ireland232136
Channel Islands1
Republic of Ireland4272
Algeria54
Australia31
Cyprus2
France1
Iran32
Jamaica1
Jordan1
Libya1632
Morocco1
Nigeria82
Saudi Arabia11
South Africa1
Sudan21
Tunisia11
USA32
USSR11
Not recorded2
TOTAL3942065

Racial Attacks

28.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is his assessment of the incidence of racial attacks during the last 12 months.

We are much concerned about racial attacks and racial incidents and are particularly disturbed that the total number of incidents involving Asian and black victims has increased.The Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis has made this problem one of the two new priority objectives for the Metropolitan police in 1985. We will continue to give every support to the police in their efforts to develop more effective ways of dealing with racial attacks.

Detention Centres

30.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he has any plans to alter the regime in detention centres.

On 24 July 1984 my right hon. and learned Friend announced a programme to establish a consistent regime for the whole detention centre system. He will be announcing shortly his plans for the implementation of the new regime.

Chemical And Biological Weapons

31.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will include instruction in the properties and effects of chemical and biological weapons on courses at the Civil Defence college, Easingwold.

These effects are dealt with in a small number of specialised courses, and appropriate reference is made to them in others.

Schools (Police Visits)

34.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is his policy on police visits to schools for educational purposes in the metropolitan area.

The Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis has our full support in all his efforts to make contact with young people, including visits to schools.

Public Warning Systems

38.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how the public warning system will differentiate between different types of attack.

Initial public warning of an air attack of whatever form will be given by sirens and radio broadcasts without differentiation. Following an attack, radio broadcasts will provide more specific information, and, if appropriate, maroons will also be used to indicate a danger of radioactive fallout.

Auld Report

40.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make a statement on the Auld report.

46.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to make a statement about the reform of the Shops Act.

48.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will now make a statement about the Auld report on shop hours.

64.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will announce an early decision on the conclusions of the Auld report.

67.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will now make a statement about the Auld report on shop hours.

72.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make a statement about the reform of the Shops Act.

83.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to make a statement about the Auld report on shop hours.

I refer my hon. Friends to the reply I gave to questions from my hon. Friends the Members for Ravensbourne (Mr. Hunt) and for Halifax (Mr. Galley) earlier today.

British Broadcasting Corporation

41.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will establish a commission of inquiry to investigate and make recommendations on the future structure and finances of the British Broadcasting Corporation.

Hong Kong (Vietnamese Refugees)

42.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what consultations he has had on the implications for immigration policy in relation to Vietnamese refugees of the agreement on the future of Hong Kong.

We have discussed the Vietnamese refugees in Hong Kong with various individuals and organisations, but none of these discussions has been in the context of the agreement on the future of Hong Kong.

Police (Records)

45.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he is satisfied that all the records held by the special branch of the Metropolitan police contain only necessary and relevant information, properly authenticated, and that there is an effective system of updating information and destroying information no longer related to the discharge of special branch functions.

The Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis is aware of the provisions of the Home Office guidelines on the work of a special branch (issued on 19 December 1984) and my right hon. and learned Friend is satisfied that he takes all the necessary steps to ensure that they are complied with the Metropolitan police special branch, both as to the keeping of records and more generally.

Independent Local Radio

49.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he has discussed with the chairman of the Independent Broadcasting Authority the independent Broadcasting Authority's new policy on regulations for independent local radio.

Last autumn my right hon. and learned Friend discussed the regulation of independent local radio in general terms with the chairman and director-general of the IBA, and he has since written expressing his support for the approach recently outlined by the authority.

Drugs Abuse

55.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what further measures the Government intend to introduce to tackle the problem of drug abuse.

The Ministerial Group is continuing to consider ways of developing the Government's strategy. Meanwhile, my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer is providing 160 more customs officers, mainly to counter drug smuggling; my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services has commissioned an advertising agency to draw up proposals for a major education and prevention campaign and is providing more resources for prevention, treatment and rehabilitation; and the Government will be supporting the Bill which my hon. Friend the Members for Delyn (Mr. Raffan) has introduced to increase to life imprisonment the maximum penalty for trafficking in class A drugs.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what number and proportion of prison service offices are trained to handle the problem of prisoners who are drug misusers; and whether he is satisfied with their number.

All prison officers receive a half day's training on the subject of drugs and their misuse, during the initial basic training at the Officers' Training School, Wakefield. Further training is given nationally, regionally and within establishments every year. With regard to the detection of drugs, specialist training in this area is provided for certain dog handlers and the number of such specialists is currently being increased. The Prison Service College is also preparing a video film and teaching pack on drug detection which will be issued to all establishments in 1985 for staff training purposes.

Police (Surveillance Techniques)

57.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will issue further guidelines to the special branch of the police on the use of surveillance techniques and the definition of the term subversive in the context of the recent guidelines which he has drawn up for them.

Special branch applies the definition of subversion formulated by Lord Harris of Greenwich in 1975, and quoted in paragraph 20 of the "Guidelines on the Work of a Special Branch" issued on 19 December 1984; "Subversive activities are … those which threaten the safety or well-being of the State, and which are intended to undermine or overthrow Parliamentary democracy by political, industrial or violent means" — Official Report, House of Lords, 26 February 1975, Vol. 357, c. 947. The definition is well understood by chief officers and we do not consider that any further guidance is needed on this point.

Rape

62.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many cases of alleged rape were reported in 1984; and how many resulted in conviction.

Statistics concerning rape include attempted rape and aiding or abetting an offence of rape. Numbers of offences of rape recorded by the police are published annually in "Criminal Statistics, England and Wales" (table 2.9 of the volume for 1983, Cmnd. 9349). In the first nine months of 1984 the police recorded 1,077 such offences. Information on convictions for rape is also published annually in "Criminal Statistics, England and Wales, Supplementary Tables" — table S1.1(A), Vol. 1 for magistrates courts and table 2.1(A), Vol. 2 for the Crown court. Convictions in one year do not necessarily relate to offences recorded by the police in that year.

Prisoners (Parole)

66.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he has any further proposals for the exclusion of prisoners from parole, following the decision of the Court of Appeal in Findlay and Others v Secretary of State for the Home Department.

No prisoners are excluded from parole consideration by the policy held to be lawful by the House of Lords in the case of Findlay and others. We have no further proposals at present to change our policy on parole.

Community Radio

68.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make a statement on Her Majesty's Government's current proposals for the development of community radio.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply given to a question from my hon. Friend the Member for Kingswood (Mr. Hayward) on 23 January at column 417–18.

Police (Special Branch)

73.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he proposes to amend the guidelines issued by his Department on the work of the special branch.

76.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what safeguards exist to ensure that special branch officers adhere to the guidelines issued by his Department.

The chief officer of each force is responsible for ensuring that the activities of his special branch are properly controlled and supervised, having regard to the provisions of the Home Office "Guidelines on the work of a Special Branch", issued on 19 December 1984. Special branches are also subject to inspection by Her Majesty's inspectors of constabulary in the same way as other parts of police forces.

Police Rent Allowance

74.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make a statement on future arrangements for police rent allowance.

The police arbitration tribunal recommended that the existing arrangements for calculating rent allowances should remain unchanged. My right hon. and learned Friend has accepted that recommendation. Under the Police Regulations, he has to approve force maximum limits, and he has thought it right to advise police authorities of the considerations which should be taken into account before giving approval.

Thames Valley Police Force

78.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to reach a conclusion on the proposed increase in the establishment of the Thames Valley police force.

My right hon. and learned Friend has already done so. The police authority was informed on 25 January that he is prepared to approve an increase of 20 police posts in the current financial year and 30 posts with effect from 1 April 1985, provided that the police authority will find the necessary finance for these posts and its proposed civilianisation programme.

Racism (Police Training)

79.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he is satisfied with the operation of racism awareness training course for the police.

The Home Office sponsored an experimental series of four courses in racism awareness training for police officers. An evaluation of that training was recently published. We are satisfied that training of this kind has a contribution to make to the community and race relations courses that are currently being developed by the police.The Home Office has also set up at Brunel university a centre for the study of community and race relations, with an emphasis on developing the training skills of police trainers in this subject.

Immigration Interviews (Tape Recording)

80.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will introduce on an experimental basis the tape recording of immigration interviews.

No. The outcome of a further review by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office of the possible use of tape recordings in interviews by entry clearance officers abroad is awaited. Until it is received no decision will be taken about the use of tape recorders in immigration interviews in this country.

Metropolitan Police

81.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will ask the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis to defer plans for reorganising the district and area organisation of the police until the proposals have been debated in Parliament.

The Commissioner's plans for reorganising the Metropolitan police will be implemented over the next two years. As my right hon. and learned Friend said on 17 January, at columns 175–76, in reply to a question from my hon. Friend the Member for Westminster, North (Mr. Wheeler) he hopes, subject to the usual consultations, that it will be possible to find time before Easter to give the House an opportunity to debate the Commissioner's recent report to him on his plans and priorities for the coming year.

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asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what steps he has taken to assess (a) public support and (b) public opposition amongst the community in relation to the proposed changes in the management structure of the Metropolitan police.

The Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis has assured me that he will be consulting widely about the detailed development and implementation of his plans to restructure the force within the broad outline he has already announced. My right hon. and learned Friend has invited right hon. and hon. Members for constituencies in the Metropolitan police district to discuss with him, as police authority, any matters arising from the Commissioner's recent report to him, including the reorganisation of the force.

Young Offenders

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will introduce legislation amending the present statutory arrangements for the treatment of young offenders by adopting throughout England and Wales the hearing system for children in trouble currently practised in Scotland.

No. We believe that there is a need for fuller consideration and discussion of this and other alternatives to the present system (such as the establishment of family courts with some jurisdiction over juvenile offenders, as envisaged by the Social Services Committee in its second report of last Session) before any conclusion is reached.

Prison Rules

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many prisoners on rule 43 worked in their cells on the most recent convenient date; and what types of work they were employed in.

The information requested is not available centrally. Efforts are made to provide prisoners on rule 43 with work where local circumstances, including the availability of suitable work, permit. In the case of prisoners on rule 43 for their own protection this may include work in association.

Leeds Prison

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many prisoners contracted salmonella in the recent outbreak at Leeds prison; how many of these prisoners shared cells; and when salmonella was first diagnosed.

The first prisoner at Leeds prison reported sick suffering from what proved to be salmonella poisoning on 13 October 1984. Five other cases were subsequently confirmed. All but one of these prisoners had been sharing cells at the time they became ill.

Terrorist Offences (Statistics)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) how many prisoners had been convicted of terrorist offences at the most recent convenient date; and how many of these were serving life sentences;(2) how many terrorist murderers were in prison in England and Wales on the most recent convenient date; and for how long the longest serving has been detained.

The only information which is readily available relates to prisoners who are currently in custody in England and Wales and in category A. It does not cover prisoners who have never been in category A or who have been removed from category A. As at 25 January 1985 there were 64 prisoners convicted of terrorist-type offences, of whom 34 were serving life sentences. Twenty-two prisoners were convicted of terrorist-type murders, the longest serving of whom was first received in custody in England and Wales in October 1973.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many terrorist murderers have been released from prison to date.

The only information which is readily available on prisoners convicted of murders relating to terrorism concerns prisoners who were in custody in England and Wales in category A at the time of release. One such prisoner has been released; he was suffering from terminal cancer and died three days later.

Criminal Responsibility (Minimum Age)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the minimum age of criminal responsibility in each country of western Europe.

Police Joint Boards

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many chief constables have made known to him their views on possible breakaways from the proposed police joint boards; and how many of them are in favour of such boards.

No chief constable has indicated to my right hon. and learned Friend that he favours a change in existing force area, or in the proposed joint boards.

Zeus Security Consultants

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department on how many occasions he has employed Zeus Security Consultants; and for what purpose.

Public Processions

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) if he will detail all the circumstances he takes into consideration prior to banning or approving a public procession;(2) if he will list his powers to ban processions

(a) within the Greater London area and (b) elsewhere.

My right hon. and learned Friend has no powers to ban processions. In London that power rests with the Commissioner of Police, and elsewhere with the borough or district council. Section 3 of the Public Order Act 1936 provides that in London the Commissioner of Police for the City of London or the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis may, subject to the Home Secretary's consent, make an order banning all public processions or any class of procession but only if the believes that his powers to impose conditions on processions under section 3(1) of the Act will be insufficient to prevent serious disorder. Outside London if a chief constable similarly believes that his powers under section 3(1) will not be sufficient to prevent serious public disorder, he must apply to the borough or district council for an order banning all public processions or any class of procession: and the council may make such an order, subject to my right hon. and learned Friend's consent. In deciding whether or not to consent to a banning order the Home Secretary considers in each case the risk of serious public disorder and the resources available to the police to control it, and makes a judgment of what he believes will be in the public interest.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will provide such details as are readily available of each order prohibiting processions made by him under the Public Order Act 1936 in each of the past five years and to date.

The following is the information in respect of banning orders made in England and Wales under section 3(2) or section 3(3) of the Act in the past five years:

Class or classes of procession bannedDate ban commencedDistrict(s)Duration
1979None
1980
All public processions other than those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held16 AugustSandwell30 days
Dudley
Wolverhampton
Walsall
Birmingham
Coventry
1981
All public processions other than those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held5 MarchMetropolitan Police District27 days
City of London
All public processions other than those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held20 MarchLeicester1 month
All public processions other than those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held21 MarchWolverhampton14 days
All public processions other than those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held21 MarchLeeds29 days
All public processions other than those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held22 MarchBarnsley7 days
Doncaster
Rotherham
Sheffield
All public processions except those traditionally held on 1 May to celebrate May Day and those of a religious character customarily held25 AprilMetropolitan Police District28 days
City of London
All public processions other than those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held19 JuneCoventry23 days
All public processions other than those of a religious, educational, festive or cermonial character11 JulyMetropolitan Police District
City of London
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held18 JulyOxford11 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character18 JulyPlymouth30 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character24 JulyScunthorpe17 days
Great Grimsby
Cleethorpes
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held1 AugustNorth Bedfordshire9 days
South Bedfordshire
Luton
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held14 AugustNorth Bedfordshire29 days
South Bedfordshire
Luton
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held21 AugustCrawley17 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character21 AugustPeterborough31 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held26 AugustLiverpool43 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character28 AugustMetropolitan Police District31 days
City of London
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character4 SeptemberNorthampton25 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held19 SeptemberIpswich9 days
Bury St. Edmunds
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held26 SeptemberLuton9 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held3 OctoberSheffield2 days
All public processions of a political nature within the London Borough of Croydon16 OctoberLondon Borough of Croydon2½ days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character31 OctoberOldham7 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character, or those customarily held in remembrance of the dead7 NovemberRochdale7 days

Class or classes of procession banned

Date ban commenced

District(s)

Duration

All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held4 DecemberLondon Borough of Brent and Harrow2½days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character4 DecemberRochdale7 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held11 DecemberLondon Boroughs of Brent and Harrow2½days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held19 DecemberRochdale29 days
1982
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held23 JanuaryCalderdale9 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held30 JanuaryCity of Coventry9 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held6 FebruaryCalderdale (Halifax)23 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held13 MarchLondon Borough of Southwark2 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held26 MarchKirklees24 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held31 MarchNorth Bedfordshire9 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held9 AprilLondon Boroughs of Hounslow, Hillingdon and Ealing3 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive and ceremonial character customarily held31 JulySouth Bedfordshire9 days
Luton
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive and ceremonial character customarily held28 AugustLondon Boroughs of Kensington and Chelsea, Hammersmith and Fulham3 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive and ceremonial character11 SeptemberMetropolitan Police District1 day
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive and ceremonial character11 SeptemberCity of London1 day
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive and ceremonial character23 OctoberLondon Boroughs of Southwark, Lambeth and Lewisham2 days
1983
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive and ceremonial character22 JanuaryLondon Boroughs of Hounslow and Richmond-upon-Thames2 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive and ceremonial character29 JanuaryLondon Borough of Bexley2 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive and ceremonial character customarily held29 JanuaryDartford2 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive and ceremonial character19 FebruaryLondon Borough of Southwark2 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive and ceremonial character19 FebruaryLondon Boroughs of Lambeth, Lewisham, Greenwich and Tower Hamlets2 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive and ceremonial character customarily held23 AprilSlough2 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive and ceremonial character16 JulyLondon Boroughs of Barking, Dagenham, Redbridge, Tower Hamlets and Newham2 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive and ceremonial character customarily held30 JulyLondon Borough of Haringey2 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive and ceremonial character customarily held30 JulyLondon Boroughs of Islington, Hackney, Waltham Forest, Enfield, Camden, Barnet and Tower Hamlets2 days
1984
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held27 JanuarySheffield2 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held27 JanuaryNorth-East Derbyshire2 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held27 JanuaryCity of Bradford2 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held27 JanuaryChesterfield2 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held27 JanuaryRotherham2 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character or those in remembrance of the dead21 AprilCity of Salford7 days

Class or classes of procession banned

Date ban commenced

District(s)

Duration

All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial nature customarily held12 OctoberCity of Bradford2½ days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial nature customarily held13 OctoberCity of Leeds1½ days
All public processions except those customarily held in connection with the annual Remembrance Day Services2 NovemberLondon Borough of Ealing10 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial nature customarily held17 NovemberMetropolitan Police District7 days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial nature customarily held14 DecemberLondon Borough of Newham2 days
1985
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held26 JanuaryCity of Leeds1½ days
All public processions except those of a religious, educational, festive or ceremonial character customarily held26 JanuaryCity of Bradford1½ days

Mentally Abnormal Offenders

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is satisifed that there are available on a national basis an adequate number of places for the detention of mentally abnormal offenders; and if he will make a statement.

Decisions on how mentally disordered offenders should be dealt with are a matter for the courts, and the provision of hospital places for those detainable under the Mental Health Act 1983 is for my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services. The range of facilities in the National Health Service is currently being expanded through the provision of regional secure units; and where the treatment is required under conditions of special security a place in a special hospital can be provided by my right hon. Friend. Difficulties sometimes arise, not least where there may be disagreement concerning a person's clinical condition or the suitability of a hospital placement; where this involves particular cases for which the Home Secretary has responsibilities he and my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services together seek to resolve them.

Local Government Reform

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many London authorities or local authority organisations included in their responses to Cmnd. 9063 comments supporting the retention of a single Londonwide fire brigade; how many were opposed to the retention of a single fire brigade; and how many suggested special organisational changes for London's fire brigade when commenting on paragraph 2.19 of Cmnd. 9063.

Responses to Cmnd. 9063 indicated little support for change in the organisation of the London Fire Brigade. No London borough or local government organisation was opposed to the retention of a Londonwide brigade or suggested special organisational arrangements for its management by the joint fire board.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what sums of money, both revenue and capital, will be made available to the London joint board for fire to cover the period from 1 September 1985 to 31 March 1986 to enable it to employ staff, acquire land and premises and enter into contracts; and what will be the source of those funds.

Clause 67 of the Local Government Bill would enable the London Fire and Civil Defence Authority to borrow in order to defray expenses incurred before the abolition date. The amount borrowed would be subject to a limit to be determined under subsection (2) and would have to be repaid before the end of the financial year 1986–87.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department which responses to Cmnd. 9063 led him to propose the setting up of four area committees within the proposed joint board for the London Fire Brigade.

The idea of area committees originated from the Government's consideration of earlier proposals for the reorganisation of the London Fire Brigade, notably those published by the Greater London council in 1981.

Assisted Prison Visits Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department for how long a couple must have lived together as man and wife to be eligible for assistance with the cost of fares under the assisted prison visits scheme.

The assisted prison visits scheme is administered by the Department of Health and Social Security on behalf of the Home Office. In deciding for the purpose of processing claims under this scheme whether the couple have been "living together as man and wife", I understand that the Department of Health and Social Security applies broadly the same principles as it applies in relation to supplementary benefit claims, which are set out in the supplementary benefits handbook. Under those principles there is no fixed minimum period of cohabitation required to prove such a relationship, but where the couple have cohabited for only a few months there would have to be clear evidence that the case met the other criteria set out in the handbook.

Police Manpower

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will give his estimates of the changes in police manpower at the ranks represented by (a) the Association of Chief Police Officers, (b) the Superintendents Association and (c) the Police Federation which would be required if the police authority function were devolved from the metropolitan county level to each of the 36 metropolitan districts of England.

Joint Fire Authorities

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what percentage of the population of England outside the Greater London council and metropolitan areas are served by joint fire authorities.

Unsentenced Prisoners, Winson Green

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department why it has already taken six weeks to check the records of 23 unsentenced prisoners who were segregated or put in solitary confinement at Winson Green prison during November 1984 to ascertain whether there is any reference to his noble Friend, Lord Elton, in the records concerning their segregation or solitary confinement; and when he expects these inquiries to be completed.

This reply also contains information pursuant to the reply of 20 December 1984, at column 291.The inquiries have been completed. They show that in addition to the 25 unsentenced prisoners segregated during November 1984 at Birmingham under rule 43 of the Prison Rules, one unsentenced prisoner was segregated under Prison Rule 48(2) pending adjudication and no unsentenced prisoners were awarded cellular confinement as a punishment. There is no reference to my noble Friend Lord Elton in any of the records pertaining to the prisoners' segregation. The time taken to obtain the information resulted from the need to look through the prisoners' records at Birmingham and other establishments to which some of the prisoners had been transferred.

Winson Green Prison (Prisoners' Letters)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many prisoners on remand were segregated from other prisoners or put in solitary confinement at Winson Green prison during November; and whether there is any reference to his noble Friend Lord Elton in any records concerning their segregation or solitary confinement.

[pursuant to his reply, 20 December 1984, c. 291]: The correct figures for the prisoners segregated at Birmingham prison during November 1984 were 15 under Prison Rule 43 for their own protection and 10 under the same rule in the interests of good order and discipline.

Wales

Dairy Industry

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what action he proposes to safeguard the interests of Welsh milk producers, in view of the non-compliance in the milk quota scheme by other European Economic Community member states.

The Government have made it very clear that the supplementary levy arrangements must be applied properly by all member states. We are not prepared to see our producers disadvantaged compared with others. We are keeping a close watch on measures introduced by other member states and carefully monitoring available statistics. We are also maintaining pressure on the Commission on these points, since it has the authority to require member states to implement arrangements properly and to take any necessary action, and will certainly bring to its attention any evidence of failure to comply with the rules.

Labour Statistics

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many people in Wales currently receiving unemployment benefit have never been in employment; what percentage of the unemployed, and how many, in Wales are now long-term unemployed; and what is his estimate of the number in Wales aged 60 plus years who no longer figure in the unemployment total but who previously did so.

People who have not been employed since leaving school are not entitled to unemployment benefit but may receive supplementary benefit. The number in this category in Wales in December 1984 was 21,531.As at October 1984, 40·3 per cent. or 71,901 people in Wales had been unemployed for over one year.The 1983 Budget provisions resulted in an estimated 9,000 men over 60 no longer having to sign on in Wales during the period April to August 1983. No estimates are available of the number currently affected although the total should be little changed since the number of men who have subsequently become eligible under the Budget provisions will have been broadly offset by those previously eligible reaching retirement age.

Regional Aid

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will estimate the average amount of time companies in Wales will now have to wait for applications for regional aid to be processed following the announcement of a moratorium on payments by Her Majesty's Government.

The average time taken to process applications from companies in Wales for regional development grants at the present high rate of receipts of applications is between 8–10 weeks. The four-month moratorium on payments takes effect from the date of approval of an application.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many companies in Mid-Glamorgan will be affected by the moratorium on regional aid announced by the Government; and if he will estimate the sum of money involved.

The number of companies with qualifying premises in Mid-Glamorgan eligible to receive regional development grant and thus with the potential to be affected by the four-month moratorium is 818. It is not possible to estimate the sum of money involved but for Wales as a whole it is possible that some £23 million will be subject to deferment during 1985–86.

Nuclear Attack (Effects)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what information his Department makes available to Welsh farmers as to the consequences for them of a nuclear attack in Britain.

Information for farmers is contained in a booklet, "Home Defence and the Farmer", prepared by the Agriculture Departments and published in 1958. A new edition will become available after a revision of the text, which is now in train, has been completed.

Regional Emergency Committee

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will list the dates of the meetings of the Welsh regional emergency committee over the last seven years; and what were the reasons for convening the committee on each occasion.

The Wales emergency committee was convened on Friday 12 January 1979 and meetings were held each day (excluding Sunday 14 January) until Thursday 1 February. The reasons were industrial action by road haulage and bakery workers coinciding with a prolonged period of severe winter weather. I have already referred in my answer of 15 January 1985 at column 102 to a meeting held on 20 November 1984.

Dykes (Grants)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether the reconstruction and repair of dykes used for enclosing fields and for windbreak purposes on farms in Wales will be eligible for grant under the marginal land schemes; and if he will make a statement.

The provision, replacement or improvement of dykes are eligible for grant under the agriculture and horticulture grant scheme and agriculture and horticulture development scheme and farmers in the less favoured area may qualify for enhanced rates of grant. Grant is not available under either scheme for repair work.

Marginal Land

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will make it his policy that when considering, after 31 July 1985, appeals against refusal to designate land as marginal land, his Department will not, at the same time, reconsider the designation of those lands which have already been defined as marginal land.

In any reassessment of areas for less-favoured area status further consideration of land currently designated cannot be ruled out.

Employment

Employment Trends

asked the Secretay of State for Employment what have been the trends in employment in industries and services which formerly fell within the scope of wages council, but which no longer do so.

The information requested is not available because the coverage of the wages councils that have been abolished does not correspond to industrial groups for which estimates are prepared.

Median Weekly Earnings

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the median wage and median earnings for male and female workers for a standard working week.

The latest available information on the median weekly earnings of full-time adult male and female employees, distinguishing manual and non-manual employees, is for April 1984 and is shown in table 1 of "New Earnigs Survey 1984, Part A," a copy of which is in the Library.

Abbeystead Pumping Station

asked the Secretary of State for Employment when the report on the explosion at Abbeystead pumping station is to be published.

I expect the report to be published on 7 February. I shall make an announcement.

Skillcentres

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) what has been the number of full-time instructors by course in each of the last three years at the Castle Bromwich skillcentre, Tameside drive, Birmingham;(2) what was the cost to public funds of

(a) acquiring the site and (b) building the Castle Bromwich skillcentre, Tameside drive, Birmingham B35; and when it was completed;

(3) what, for each year since it has been open, has been the number of courses available by title, place and take-up at the Redditch skillcentre;

(4) what has been the waiting list for courses by name in each of the last three years at the Redditch skillcentre;

(5) what has been the number of full-time instructors by course in each of the last three years at Redditch skillcentre;

(6) what was the cost to public funds of (a) acquiring the site and (b) building the Redditch skillcentre; and when it was completed;

(7) what has been the total cost to public funds of equipping the Redditch skillcentre; and what has been the cost by year for any subsequent re-equipment or refurbishing of the premises;

(8) what has been the total cost to public funds of equipping the Castle Bromwich skillcentre, Tameside drive, Birmingham; and what has been the cost by year for any subsequent re-equipment or refurbishing of the premises;

(9) what, for each year since it has been open, has been the number of courses available by title, places and take-up at the Castle Bromwich skillcentre, Tameside drive, Birmingham;

(10) what has been the waiting list for courses by name in each of the last three years at the Castle Bromwich skillcentre, Tameside drive, Birmingham.

I shall write to the hon. Member shortly and place a copy of my letter in the Library.

Youth Training And Employment

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many, by number and percentage, of those young people completing a youth opportunities programme or youth training scheme have transferred into immediate full-time employment at the end of the scheme, for each year since 1979.

Education And Science

Kidney Failure And Infertility

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what was the expenditure in the most recent year for which records are available on (a) research into kidney failure and (b) research into infertility.

The Medical Research Council, which receives its grant-in-aid through the Department, is the main Government agency for the promotion of medical research in the United Kingdom. The Department of Health and Social Security also supports some research through its health service research programme. I understand that expenditure on research projects relevant to kidney failure by the MRC and the DHSS in the financial year 1983–84 — including expenditure by the MRC on projects which could prove relevant to kidney failure—was £664,000 and £166,000, respectively.As to expenditure on research into infertility, I refer my hon. Friend to my answer on 9 January, at columns

431–2, to my hon. Friend the Member for Congleton (Mrs. Winterton). It is possible that research work relevant to kidney failure and infertility is also being conducted in universities and medical schools using funds allocated for teaching and research on the advice of the University Grants Committee, but no details of such work are available. The medical charities may also be funding research in these fields.

Medical Research Council (Projects)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will list, by location, the research projects currently funded by the Medical Research Council; if he will indicate the level of grant allocated to each project; and whether these projects are based on clinical or laboratory research.

Details of research projects supported by the Medical Research Council can be found in the council's handbook for 1984–85, a copy of which is in the Library. Information on the level of grant allocated to each project and whether these projects are based on clinical or laboratory research could be provided only at disproportionate cost.

Attorney-General

Trust Corporations

asked the Attorney-General whether Her Majesty's Government will alter the Non-Contentious Probate Rules 1954 to permit trust corporations to make personal applications for grants of representation.

The non-contentious probate rules are made by the President of the Family Division with the Lord Chancellor's concurrence. The Lord Chancellor has no plans to invite the President to permit trust corporations to make personal applications for grants of representation.

asked the Attorney-General whether he will introduce legislation to amend section 23 of the Solicitors Act 1974 to permit trust corporations to make applications for grants of representation.

Trade And Industry

Trading Interests (Protection)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether he will invoke the Protection of Trading Interests Act 1980 in respect of attempts by the United States Government to impose extra-territorially its Export Administration Act.

My right hon. Friend has no present plans to do so but would be prepared to take this course where he is satisfied that it is the most effective way of safeguarding legitimate United Kingdom interests.

Technology Transfer (Restrictions)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether he will place in the Library copies of the Government's submissions to the European Community Commission concerning United States restrictions on technology transfer.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will take steps to protect British companies from the imposition of fines or from blacklisting by the United States Government under the extra-territorial application of its Export Administration Act when those companies are innocent of any offence under United Kingdom legislation.

I will continue to urge on the United States Government the need to abandon the claim to apply the Export Administration Act, and regulations made under it, extra-territorially to companies in the United Kingdom. This claim, which the Government consider to be without foundation in international law, is an avoidable source of friction between the United States and all her allies; and must in the long term encourage United Kingdom companies to free themselves from reliance on United States technology.

Beer

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what recent representations he has received alleging that the brewers are making excess profits on sales of beer in the south of England through charging higher wholesale prices to their outlets there; and if he will make a statement.

Energy

Domestic Disconnections

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will provide details of how the Electricity and Gas Consumer Councils are monitoring the operation of the voluntary code of practice on disconnections.

The area electricity consultative councils and the regional gas consumer councils receive from the industries information on disconnections at regular intervals; and information on any specific case is available for inspection and discussion. Liaison arrangements between a particular fuel board and its respective consultative or consumer council is a matter for local agreement.

Consumers And Fuel Industries (Relationship)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will now consider seeking to introduce a statutory code of practice to govern the relationship between consumers and the fuel industries.

Transport

Buses

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will compare the safety record of long-haul bus operations before and after deregulation.

Separate statistics are not available for long distance express coach services. Overall there has been a decline in bus and coach user casualty rates—all severities—from 371 per 100 million vehicle kilometres in 1979 to 314 in 1983. Similarly bus and coach vehicle accident involvement rates—all severities—fell from 502 per 100 million vehicle kilometres in 1979 to 388 in 1983.

British Rail

asked the Secretary of State for Transport on what basis load factors for British Rail passenger services are determined or approved by his Department.

Within the objectives my right hon. friend gave the chairman of British Rail on 24 October 1983 the board has the responsibility for the day-to-day operation of the railway, including the setting of load factor objectives. The board has developed load factor objectives for its London and south-east services which were discussed with my Department and agreed with the Central Transport Consultative Committee. We have welcomed those targets and look forward to their achievement.

Airports (Passengers)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport (1) what information he has as to the percentage increase in passenger movements in each of the past three years at London Heathrow, London Gatwick, Manchester, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Birmingham, Cardiff and Belfast Aldergrove airports;

(2) what information he has to the total number of passengers for the past 12 months at the following airports: London Heathrow, London Gatwick, Manchester, Glasgow, Birmingham, Edinburgh, Cardiff and Belfast Aldergrove.

The information is shown in the following table:

Percentage increase in passenger movementsTotal number of terminal passengers
1982198319841984
London Heathrow0·0+1·3+8·929·1M
London Gatwick+3·9+11·8+11·814·0M
Manchester+5·7+1·9+17·06·0M
Glasgow+6·1+1·4+12·42·7M
Edinburgh+7·2+6·1+16·82·0M
Birmingham+6·5-0·3+8·51·5M
Cardiff+22·6+6·3+11·00·4M
Belfast Aldergrove+2·5-3·1+13·81·6M

Lighthouse Keepers

asked the Secretary of State for Transport from which date he expects to implement the new pay structure for lighthouse keepers that was agreed between the union and employers.

I assume the hon. Member is referring to the structure on which agreement was reached in 1982 between the Northern Lighthouse Board and the Transport and General Workers Union. On 31 August 1983 I told the chairman of the board that I had no objection in principle to these restructuring proposals, but that I could accept their costs only to the extent that they could be accommodated within the then existing light-keepers' pay and allowances bill. The matter rests there, but my offer remains open.

Pesticides (Aerial Spraying)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will give the area of land sprayed with pesticides in thousands of hectares by (a) fixed-wing aircraft, (b) helicopters and (c) in total for each year since 1978.

The available information is as follows:

Areas Sprayed with Pesticides by Aircraft in Thousands of Hectares*
19781979198019811982
Fixed wing178205202161170
Helicopters156145133111139
Unknown3312351
Total336350366295360
* Corrected for non returns.
Comparable figures do not exist for the area treated with ground machines, but it is estimated that 5·3 million hectares of crops and grass were treated with pesticides once or more often in 1982.

Marconi Rcmm

asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether full tests have now been carried out on the Marconi RCMM, remote computer maintenance and monitoring system; and if it is being considered for use throughout Britain's motorways and tunnels.

I assume my hon. Friend is referring to the Marconi environmental control system installed in the Holmesdale and Bell commons tunnels on the M25 to monitor visibility and pollution from exhaust fumes. The system has been tested and accepted.A similar Marconi system has been accepted for the A1(M) Hatfield tunnel which at present is under construction.Wider use of such systems may be considered, where appropriate, and would be the subject of specification and competitive tendering.

M25 (Warning Signals)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport why it will take three years to install improved emergency warning signals with automatic incident detection on the M25 motorway.

Automatic incident detection is being provided on the M25 initially within, and on the approaches to, the Holmesdale and Bell common tunnels. Thereafter, it is proposed to extend the facility to the approaches to the Dartford tunnel.The signal installation programme is currently being reviewed.

London Regional Transport

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will list those functions of London Regional Transport upon which he will answer parliamentary questions.

I will, of course, answer questions on all functions of London Regional Transport which fall within my ministerial responsibilities. In accordance with the normal practice governing ministerial responsibility for nationalised industries, this excludes matters relating to the day-to-day management of the industry. There may also be matters of commercial confidence which it would not be appropriate for me to make public.

Pavement Parking

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will introduce legislation to provide for a system of fixed penalty fines for pavement parking; and if he will make a statement.

Fixed penalty notices already apply to many pavement parking offences. There are no plans at present to extend current legislation.

Road Traffic Law (Review)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether he can now announce his plans for a review of road traffic law.

My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Home Department and I are concerned that road traffic law should not only promote road safety and efficient traffic management, but should also be fair, easy to understand, and capable of effective enforcement. The present law, which has developed piecemeal, does not always fulfil these aims.

We propose to continue the process of reform first announced in our election manifesto of 1979 by reviewing a number of aspects of the law which are causing particular difficulties.

With the agreement of our right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland we are therefore setting up a small review with these terms of reference.

"To consider what improvements might be made to the following aspects of road traffic law, particularly in respect of simplification, effectiveness and acceptability, taking account of their relationship with other aspects of road traffic law:

  • (a) the structure of and penalties for the offences in sections 1–3 of the Road Traffic Act 1972: causing death by reckless driving; reckless driving, and careless driving;
  • (b) whether the present penalty points system needs any amendment, and, in particular, whether offences which are endorseable with penalty points can be divided into "points" and "no points" offences;
  • (c) the structure of and penalties for offences relating to—
  • i. driver licensing
  • ii. construction and use and
  • iii. failure to comply with traffic signs;
  • (d) whether new types of penalty for traffic offences would be appropriate in place of or in addition to existing types of penalty, in particular the possible wider application of statutory driving tests for certain types of offences or in cetain circumstances.

    The review will be carried out by an independent chairman, a second outside member and members from my department and from the Home Office. Dr. Peter North, principal of Jesus college, Oxford, has accepted our invitation to chair the review body, and Professor Richard Alsopp, Professor of Transport Studies, University College, London, to be the second outside member. The official members will be:

    Home Office

    Mr. G. L. Angel
    Mr. P. Harris

    Department of Transport

    Mr. T. H. Hall
    Mr. D. M. Smith

    We hope that the review body, which will invite evidence from interested parties, will be able to report on these matters next year. The process of reform is a continuous one and we may wish to refer further matters to the review in due course.

    Crash Barriers

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will list the order of priority and timetable of his Department for the installation of crash barriers on the next 20 dual carriageways in England and Wales.

    [pursuant to the reply, 28 January 1985, c. 13]: The information requested is as follows:

    Dual Carriageway ProjectStart Date
    A 406 South Woodford to Barking Relief
    1.Road, Contract 2February 1985
    2.A 69 Team Valley Grade Separated JunctionFebruary 1985
    3.M 27 Swathling LinkMarch 1985
    4.A 20 Sidcup BypassMarch 1985
    5.A 30 Longrock BypassApril 1985
    6.A 55 Bodelwyddan Improvement SchemeApril/May 1985
    7.A 30 Exeter to Okehampton, Stage 3August 1985
    A 406 South Woodford to Barking Relief
    8.Road, Contract 1August 1985
    A 406 South Woodford to Barking Relief
    9.Road, Contract 3August 1985

    Dual Carriageway Project

    Start Date

    10.A 27 Havant to Chichester BypassSeptember 1985
    11.A 483 Ruabon and Wynnstay LinkLate 1985
    12.A 34 Newbury to Litchfield, Stage 1November 1985
    13.A 38 Saltash BypassDecember 1985
    A 406 South Woodford to Barking Relief
    14.Road, Contract 4December 1985
    15.A 419 Blunsdon to Cricklade-DuallingDecember 1985
    16.A 303 Thruxton-AmesburyDecember 1985
    17.A 1 Clifton to Stannington BridgeJanuary 1986
    18.A 30 Okehampton BypassFebruary 1986
    19.A 21 Pembury BypassMay 1986
    20.A 55 Northop BypassLate 1986

    Scotland

    Pesticides (Aerial Spraying)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the total amount of land sprayed with pesticides using aerial spraying techniques by the Forestry Commission for each of the last five years for which information is available.

    The following areas were sprayed out of the Forestry Commission's total productive woodland holding of some 900,000 hectares:

    YearArea (hectares)
    19801,515
    1981249
    1982160
    1983679
    19843,727

    Dementia

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many persons in Scotland suffer from dementia;

    197919801981198219831984*ChangePercentage change
    Argyll and Clyde
    Medical staff in the hospital and community services297·2290·9301·9305·7313·5291·8-5·4-1·8
    General practitioners†285289291296303312+27+9·5
    Nursing and midwifery2,722·12,802·22,847·32,866·02,945·72,975·0+252·9+9·3
    Nursing auxiliary/assistant1,649·41,667·51,678·01,648·21,629·01,569·7-79·7-4·8
    Ayrshire and Arran
    Medical staff in the hospital and community services183·5193·1194·9211·5221·8235·3+51·8+28·2
    General practitionerst†211219226230231244+33+15·6
    Nursing and midwifery1,826·41,874·81,967·22,046·42,301·12,201·4+375·0+20·5
    Nursing auxiliary/assistant836·6867·7887·0930·9980·7952·9+116·3+13·9
    Borders
    Medical staff in the hospital and community services47·848·947·346·845·446·4-1·4-2·9
    General practitioners†686973747474+6·0+8·8
    Nursing and midwifery538·7548·6584·7635·8656·5675·0+136·3+25·3
    Nursing auxiliary/assistant309·7327·5355·2354·4348·6341·7+32·0+10·3
    Dumfries and Galloway
    Medical staff in the hospital and community services106·0103·9110·3108·6105·9112·0+6·0+5·7

    whether there are any regional differences in is incidence; and whether any estimate has been made of the likely rate of increase of the malady over the next decade.

    As statistics about the total number of persons in Scotland suffering from dementia are not kept centrally, it is not possible to say whether there are any regional differences in its incidence or to estimate whether the incidence is likely to change over the next decade.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what expenditure is made annually in Scotland on research into a cure for dementia.

    Information relating to all medical research being conducted in Scotland is not available centrally. However, the Scottish Home and Health Department is currently supporting eight projects relevant to this area for which total funding of approximately £305,000 has been allocated.

    Nhs (Employment Statistics)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will give a breakdown as to how many new doctors, nurses and auxiliary staff have been employed by the National Health Service in Scotland since May 1979, giving separate figures for each region, year by year, to date, indicating the net increase and number for each category since May 1979.

    [pursuant to his reply, 22 January 1985, c. 388]: Figures for new doctors, nurses and auxiliary staff by region are not held centrally. The whole-time equivalent numbers of staff in post in the Scottish health board areas from 1979 to 1984 are as follows, showing net increases, in numerical and percentage terms, for each category:

    1979

    1980

    1981

    1982

    1983

    1984

    *

    Change

    Percentage change

    General practitioners†100105110112114116+16+16·0
    Nursing and midwifery1,124·41,161·11,241·21,277·71,311·91,308·8+184·4+16·4
    Nursing auxiliary/assistant494·2517·1510·0514·3536·3507·0+12·8+2·6

    Fife

    Medical staff in the hospital and community services202·3196·4201·4206·3209·6217·1+14·8+7·3
    General practitioners†188193195196202203+15·0+8·0
    Nursing and midwifery2,026·02,096·72,215·42,338·62,402·82,427·0+401·0+19·8
    Nursing auxiliary/assistant734·4768·9824·3849·8851·1832·1+97·7+13·3

    Forth Valley

    Medical staff in the hospital and community services180·8177·4181·6194·9195·6190·1+9·3+5·1
    General practitioners†160169173174181188+28+17·5
    Nursing and midwifery1,820·01,922·51,942·22,015·42,117·42,138·4+318·4+17·5
    Nursing auxiliary/assistant1,073·31,115·11,154·81,155·31,136·31,096·6+23·3+2·2

    Grampian

    Medical staff in the hospital and community services478·6486·2484·2481·2474·0488·7+10·1+2·1
    General practitioners†301300310314322320+19+6·3
    Nursing and midwifery3,675·83,787·03,972·74,036·14,129·24,178·2+502·4+13·7
    Nursing auxiliary/assistant1,369·21,453·11,580·01,572·31,537·41,555·5+186·3+13·6

    Greater Glasgow

    Medical staff in the hospital and community services

    1,714·01,707·41,715·61,765·81,788·01,760·6+46·6+2·7
    General practitioners†634627641646667684+50+7·9
    Nursing and midwifery9,657·810,224·11,106·911,390·111,294·911,328·8+1,671·0+17·3
    Nursing auxiliary/assistant4,441·04,753·34,811·54,466·04,154·84,060·0+381·0+8·6

    Highland

    Medical staff in the hospital and community services165·8165·0172·6167·8162·5162·0+3·8+2·3
    General practitioners†157165173177178180+23+14·6
    Nursing and midwifery1,557·21,635·41,736·41,681·81,700·21,691·1+133·9+8·6
    Nursing auxiliary/assistant553·4547·2574·4562·1568·6558·4+5·0+0·9

    Lanarkshire

    Medical staff in the hospital and community services380·0370·1371·2386·3407·6419·3+39·3+10·3
    General practitioners†276287296295301307+31+11·2
    Nursing and midwifery3,447·43,510·43,664·83,678·93,924·13,912·5+465·1+13·6
    Nursing auxiliary/assistant1,345·31,449·51,474·91,479·21,392·51,324·9-20·4-1·5

    Lothian

    Medical staff in the hospital and community services1,027·51,061·41,041·21,074·51,076·41,076·9+49·4+4·8
    General practitioners†496513529540551558+62+12·5
    Nursing and midwifery6,136·46,397·56,620·36,924·47,107·67,007·9+871·5+14·2
    Nursing auxiliary/assistant2,475·42,513·12,600·52,657·82,598·62,492·9+17·5+0·7

    Orkney

    Medical staff in the hospital and community services5·14·84·94·74·94·2-0·9-17·6
    General practitioners†222121212222
    Nursing and midwifery115·8114·1129·1141·5146·8150·6+34·8+30·1
    Nursing auxiliary/assistant43·349·754·850·446·940·0-3·3-7·6

    Shetland

    Medical staff in the hospital and community services6·06·27·08·08·19·0+3·0+50·0
    General practitioners†171919181919+2+11·8
    Nursing and midwifery125·4135·1133·1138·1156·6166·2+40·8+32·5

    1979

    1980

    1981

    1982

    1983

    1984

    *

    Change

    Percentage change

    Nursing auxiliary/assistant42·542·748·846·342·242·0-0·5-1·2

    Tayside

    Medical staff in the hospital and community services537·4538·1549·2529·3520·4528·2-9·2-1·7
    General practitioners†255255265272266283+28+11·0
    Nursing and midwifery3,780·44,004·44,167·04,289·84,198·04,268·5+488·1+12·9
    Nursing auxiliary/assistant1,715·71,900·71,856·71,794·71,735·51,692·3-23·4-1·4

    Western Isles

    Medical staff in the hospital and community services11·911·911·911·511·511·5-0·4-3·4
    General practitioners†202525272931+11+55·0
    Nursing and midwifery202·1203·7195·8210·0211·6225·6+23·5+11·6
    Nursing auxiliary/assistant52·259·258·857·152·654·5+2·3+4·4

    * All 1984 figures are provisional.

    † Numbers.

    Note:

    Staff employed by the Common Services Agency are not included.

    Scottish Special Housing Association

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) if he will set out the Scottish Special Housing Association's income to its housing revenue account, under the heading deficit subsidy, rents and other income, for each of the years from 1978–79 to the present;(2) if he will set out the Scottish Special Housing Association's expenditure from its housing revenue account, under the headings, loan charges, repairs-maintenance, management and other, for each of the years from 1978–79 to 1984–85; and what is the estimated expenditure under these headings in 1985–86;

    SSHA Housing Revenue Account: Income
    £ million
    1978–791979–801980–811981–821982–831983–841984–85
    Deficit subsidy29·531·130·626·625·223·023·0
    Rents23·326·533·542·251·856·960·0
    Other income0·50·51·12·73·02·91·9
    SSHA Housing Revenue Account: Expenditure
    £ million
    1978–791979–801980–811981–821982–831983–84*1984–85*1985–86
    Loan charges33·635·740·445·950·854·858·061·4
    Repairs/maintenance†15·516·814·718·521·518·818·818·2
    Management etc.‡3·34·04·95·05·26·65·76·4
    Other1·01·24·60·91·91·72·02·4
    * Estimate.
    † Includes modernisation up to 1980–81.
    ‡ Includes rent rebate administration up to 1982–83.
    SSHA Capital Expenditure
    £ million
    1979–801980–811981–821982–831983–84*1984–85
    New build24·631·924·118·710·216·8
    Modernisation22·614·920·740·741·847·3
    Other0·10·50·31·4
    * Estimate.
    Figures up to 1982–83 are on an income and expenditure basis; thereafter they are on a receipts and payments basis.

    (3) if he will set out the Scottish Special Housing Association's capital spending as broken down between new build, modernisation and any other relevant items for each of the years from 1979–80 to the present;

    (4) if he will set out for the Scottish Special Housing Association expenditure from the housing revenue account on repairs-maintenance and management per house for each of the years from 1978–79 to 1984–85 and the estimated expenditure under these headings in 1985–86.

    [pursuant to his reply, 24 January 1985, c. 517]: The information requested is as follows. Most of the figures for the years concerned are contained in the annual reports of the Scottish Special Housing Association.

    SSHA Housing Revenue Account: Cost per House

    1978–79

    1979–80

    1980–81

    1981–82

    1982–83

    1983–84

    *

    1984–85

    1985–86

    £

    £

    £

    £

    £

    £

    £

    £

    Repairs/maintenance171·8182·2158·3199·4233·5206·7213·9212·0
    Management†34·341·150·552·252·472·764·975·6

    * Estimate.

    † Excludes rent rebate of unified housing benefit management costs up to and excluding 1982–83, to be more consistent with later figures which include management costs of unified housing benefit.

    Fishing Vessels

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list in the Official Report (a) the number and types of fishing vessels acquired by fishermen in the years 1979 to 1983 with financial assistance of the Highlands and Islands Development Board and (b) the yards where these vessels were built.

    [pursuant to his reply, 17 January 1985, c. 179]: This information is set out in the following table:

    New Vessels
    TypeNumberBoatyard
    1979
    Shellfish3Orcantic Ltd., Orkney
    Shellfish1J. I. Hourston, Orkney
    Shellfish2J. M. McCaughey, Wick
    1980
    Shellfish1Cardiff Boatbuilding Co. Ltd.
    Shellfish1J. Henderson & Sons, Mallaig
    Shellfish1Bryce Waterhouse Marine, Worcester
    Shellfish1J. I. Hourston, Orkney
    Shellfish1Tamar Boat Enterprise, Plymouth
    1981
    Shellfish1J. I. Hourston, Orkney
    Shellfish1Strollamus Boatyard, Skye
    Shellfish1Bryce Waterhouse Marine, Worcester
    1982
    Shellfish2J. McCaughey, Wick
    Shellfish1Stornoway Boatbuilding Co.
    Shellfish1Hull Steel Craft
    Shellfish1A. & J. Poison Boatbuilding, Wick
    Shellfish1Bryce Waterhouse Marine, Worcester
    Shellfish1P. Matheson Boatbuilders, Scarfskerry, Caithness
    Shellfish1J. Henderson & Sons, Mallaig
    Shellfish1J. I. Hourston, Orkney
    1983
    Shellfish1Bryce Waterhouse Marine, Worcester
    Shellfish1J. I. Hourston, Orkney
    Shellfish1J. McCaughey, Wick
    Whitefish2Forbes Boatbuilders, Fraserburgh
    Whitefish1Miller Boatbuilders, St. Monans
    Whitefish1Jones Boatbuilders, Buckie
    Whitefish1Cambeltown Shipyard
    Whitefish1Cygnus Marine Ltd., Cornwall
    Second-Hand Vessels
    YearNumber
    197929
    198017
    198141
    198254
    198348

    Details of the type of secondhand vessels assisted and the boatyards where the vessels were built are not available.

    Teachers (Salaries)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement about the request by Scottish teachers for an independent review of their salaries.

    [pursuant to his reply, 11 December 1984, c. 399.]: At their request I had a joint meeting with both sides of the Scottish Joint Negotiating Committee for Teaching Staff in School Education (SJNC(SE)) on 28 January and explained my position in greater detail. After a full discussion, the management side indicated that it would be prepared to undertake a review within the statutory framework of the SJNC(SE), embracing both pay and conditions of service, on the lines which I had previously suggested. I asked the teachers' side to give further careful consideration to this possibility. I emphasised that I remained ready to consider any package of proposals resulting from such a review on its merits and within the framework of the Government's plans for public expenditure in Scotland.

    Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

    European Community Institutions

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will take steps to ensure that Parliament is consulted before Her Majesty's Government suggest, or agree provisionally, any changes in the powers, responsibilities and relationships of existing European Economic Community institutions.

    The Ad Hoc Committee on Institutional Questions (Dooge Committee) is considering a number of ideas concerning the Community's institutions, including those in "Europe — The Future" (copies of which are available in the Library of the House). Member states are not however committed by the Dooge Committee. The final report of the committee will be considered by Heads of Government at the June European Council. Parliament will have an opportunity to consider any proposals for institutional change arising out of that report.

    Islamic Terrorist Squads

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he has evidence that Islamic terrorist squads supported by Iran are prepared to launch attacks on personal and property targets in the United Kingdom or elsewhere in European Economic Community countries.

    There have been a number of terrorist attacks in western Europe against Iranians who were formerly senior officials in the pre-revolutionary Government. We are naturally always on the look-out for evidence of plans for any terrorist attacks.

    European Council

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs under what article of the treaty of Rome the Heads of Governments of the European Communities constituted the European Council; and under what article they established permanent working groups.

    The European Council was set up by Heads of Government to provide general political impetus to the Community. It was not set up as such by the Treaty of Rome. However, when the European Council acts in matters within the scope of the European Communities, it does so in its capacity as the Council of Ministers within the meaning of the treaties (article 2 of the Merger Treaty).The two committees set up by the Fontainbleu European Council are ad hoc groups composed of personal representatives of Heads of Government. They are due to complete their work by March 1985.

    Amnesty International

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether Amnesty International is in receipt of public funds; and if he will make a statement.

    British Refugee Council (Report)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on his meeting with the Asia Committee of the British Refugee Council on 22 January on its report, "Behind Barbed Wire".

    Members of the Asia Committee of the British Refugee Council called on me on 22 January. We had a wide-ranging discussion about the question of Vietnamese refugees, in particular matters relating to those refugees who are currently in Hong Kong awaiting resettlement, and ways in which this problem might be resolved.

    Unilateral Nuclear Disarmament

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, pursuant to the answer of 21 January, Official Report, column 310, what studies are available to him on unilateral nuclear disarmament measures which display the necessary balance and depth, referred to in his reply to the hon. Member for Walthamstow; and if he will list the authors in each case.

    Alternative approaches to nuclear disarmament have been the subject of numerous studies and commentaries, which it would not be possible to list except at disproportionate cost.For our part, we believe that the best way to achieve nuclear disarmament is through balanced and verifiable multilateral and bilateral agreements.

    Falkland Islands (Prospecting)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what representations Her Majesty's Government have received from the Government of Argentina concerning the decision to grant a prospecting licence in the Falkland Islands to the First Land Oil and Gas Corporation.

    None: I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave him on 17 January, at column 210. We have now set out our position on Falklands oil exploration in a letter from our permanent representative in New York to the United Nations Secretary-General. This has been circulated as a United Nations General Assembly document, copies of which are being placed in the Library of the House.

    Non-Prolefiration Treaty Review Conference

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on his Department's policy towards the current applications by Greenpeace and Friends of the Earth to obtain observer status at the 1985 non-proliferation treaty (NPT) review conference.

    Rule 44 of the draft rules of procedure agreed by the preparatory committee for the conference would permit such organisations to attend meetings of the plenary and of the main committees as observers, and to receive the documents of the conference.

    Diplomatic Relations

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will list the states with which the United Kingdom now has diplomatic relations.

    The United Kingdom has diplomatic relations with the following states:

    • The Democratic Republic of Afghanistan.
    • The Democratic Popular Republic of Algeria.
    • The People's Republic of Angola.
    • Antigua and Barbuda.
    • The Commonwealth of Australia.
    • The Republic of Austria.
    • The Commonwealth of the Bahamas.
    • The State of Bahrain.
    • The People's Republic of Bangladesh.
    • Barbados.
    • The Kingdom of Belgium.
    • Belize.
    • The People's Republic of Benin.
    • The Republic of Bolivia.
    • The Republic of Botswana.
    • The Federative Republic of Brazil.
    • The State of Brunei.
    • The People's Republic of Bulgaria.
    • Burkina.
    • The Socialist Republic of the Union of Burma.
    • The Republic of Burundi.
    • The United Republic of Cameroon.
    • Canada.
    • The Republic of Cape Verde.
    • The Central African Republic.
    • The Republic of Chad.
    • The Republic of Chile.
    • The People's Republic of China.
    • The Republic of Columbia.
    • The Federal and Islamic Republic of the Comoros.
    • The People's Republic of the Congo.
    • The Republic of Costa Rica.
    • The Republic of Cuba.
    • The Republic of Cyprus.
    • The Czechoslovak Socialist Republic.
    • The Kingdom of Denmark.
    • The Republic of Djibouti.
    • The Commonwealth of Dominica.
    • The Dominican Republic.
    • The Republic of Ecuador.
    • The Arab Republic of Egypt.
    • The Republic of E1 Salvador.
    • The Republic of Equatorial Guinea.
    • Socialist Ethiopia.
    • Fiji.
    • The Republic of Finland.
    • The French Republic.
    • The Gabonese Republic.
    • The Republic of the Gambia.
    • The Federal Republic of Germany.
    • The German Democratic Republic.
    • The Republic of Ghana.
    • The Hellenic Republic.
    • Grenada.
    • The People's Revolutionary Republic of Guinea.
    • The Republic of Guinea-Bissau.
    • The Republic of Guyana.
    • The Republic of Haiti.
    • The Holy See.
    • The Republic of Honduras.
    • The Hungarian People's Republic.
    • The Republic of Iceland.
    • The Republic of India.
    • The Republic of Indonesia.
    • The Islamic Republic of Iran.
    • The Republic of Iraq.
    • The Republic of Ireland.
    • The State of Israel.
    • The Italian Republic.
    • The Republic of the Ivory Coast.
    • Jamaica.
    • Japan.
    • The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan.
    • The Republic of Kenya.
    • Republic of Kiribati.
    • The Republic of Korea.
    • The State of Kuwait.
    • The Lao People's Democratic Republic.
    • The Lebanese Republic.
    • The Kingdom of Lesotho.
    • The Republic of Liberia.
    • The Grand Duchy of Luxembourg.
    • The Democratic Republic of Madagascar.
    • Malawi.
    • Malaysia.
    • The Republic of Maldives.
    • The Republic of Mali.
    • The Republic of Malta.
    • The Islamic Republic of Mauritania.
    • Mauritius.
    • The United Mexican States.
    • The Mongolian People's Republic.
    • The Kingdom of Morocco.
    • The People's Republic of Mozambique.
    • The Republic of Nauru.
    • The Kingdom of Nepal.
    • The Kingdom of the Netherlands.
    • New Zealand.
    • The Republic of Nicaragua.
    • The Republic of Niger.
    • The Federal Republic of Nigeria.
    • The Kingdom of Norway.
    • The Sultanate of Oman.
    • The Islamic Republic of Pakistan.
    • The Republic of Panama.
    • The Independent State of Papua New Guinea.
    • The Republic of Paraguay.
    • The Republic of Peru.
    • The Republic of the Philippines.
    • The Polish People's Republic.
    • The Portuguese Republic.
    • The State of Qatar.
    • The Socialist Republic of Romania.
    • The Republic of Rwanda.
    • The Federation of Saint Christopher and Nevis.
    • Saint Lucia.
    • Saint Vincent and the Grenadines.
    • The Democratic Republic of Sao Tome and Principe.
    • The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
    • The Republic of Senegal.
    • The Republic of Seychelles.
    • The Republic of Sierra Leone.
    • The Republic of Singapore.
    • Solomon Islands.
    • The Somali Democratic Republic.
    • The Republic of South Africa.
    • The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
    • Spain.
    • The Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka.
    • The Democratic Republic of Sudan.
    • The Republic of Suriname.
    • The Kingdom of Swaziland.
    • The Kingdom of Sweden.
    • The Swiss Confederation.
    • The Syrian Arab Republic.
    • The United Republic of Tanzania.
    • The Kingdom of Thailand.
    • The Republic of Togo.
    • The Kingdom of Tonga.
    • The Republic of Trinidad and Tobago.
    • The Tunisian Republic.
    • The Republic of Turkey.
    • Tuvalu.
    • The Republic of Uganda.
    • The United Arab Emirates.
    • The United States of America.
    • The Oriental Republic of Uruguay.
    • The Republic of Vanuatu.
    • The Republic of Venezuela.
    • The Socialist Republic of Vietnam.
    • The Independent State of Western Samoa.
    • The Yemen Arab Republic (North).
    • The People's Democratic Republic of Yemen (South).
    • The Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.
    • The Republic of Zaire.
    • Zambia.
    • Zimbabwe.

    Council Of Ministers

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will publish in the Official Report a statement of forthcoming business in the European Community Council of Ministers.

    The usual written forecast was deposited in the House earlier today. At present four meetings of the Council of Ministers are planned for February.The Internal Market and Consumer Affairs Council is due to meet on 11 February to discuss product liability; the draft directive on the co-ordination of laws relating to self-employed commercial agents; the draft directive on doorstep selling; the draft directive on the right of establishment of architects; the draft 20th VAT directive on compensation for German farmers as agreed at Fontainebleau; and the proposal for tax reliefs for international travellers, for small private consignments and for fuel in tanks of commercial vehicles.The Economic and Finance Council is expected to meet on 11 February to discuss the financial framework for measures to be financed from the guidance section of the European agricultural guarantee and guidance fund (FEOGA) over the years 1985–89.The Foreign Affairs Council will meet on 18–19 February to prepare the Community position for negotiations with Spain and Portugal. It will continue its discussions of the new own resources decision and the financing of the 1985 budget; and of the 1985 food aid programme. Ministers may also consider a draft negotiating mandate for the second EC-Yugoslavia financial Protocol and may give further consideration to the question of integrated Mediterranean programmes (IMPS).The Agricultural Council is expected to meet on 25–26 February to consider the Commission's price proposals for 1985; the reform of the wine regime, including structural measures; proposals on obligatory distillation and special measures for Greece in the light of the Dublin European Council conclusions; and agricultural structures which involve aids for investment in agricultural holdings, measures for forestry and the protection of the environment. The administration of the milk supplementary levy may also be discussed.

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    Ec (Agricultural Expenditure)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what parts of EEC expenditure on agriculture do not come under the heading of market support expenditure; and what are the annual amounts spent on them.

    In addition to expenditure on market support from the guarantee Section of the European agricultural guidance and guarantee fund, payments for structural measures are made from the guidance section of the fund. There are also certain other items of agricultural expenditure such as Community contributions to animal health measures and agricultural research. Expenditure in 1984 is provisionally estimated at 650 mecu from the guidance section and 70 mecu for the other agricultural measures.

    Ec (Agricultural Prices)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if the EEC Commission, in drawing up its proposals for agricultural prices in the light of the financial guideline, will estimate the quantity of agricultural production likely to be achieved; and if it will make at the same time proposals for preventing the total cost of agricultural support exceeding the maximum laid down in the financial guideline.

    The Commission have yet to table its proposals for the 1985 price fixing and I cannot anticipate its judgment on how it will implement its undertaking to draw up its proposals in the light of the financial guideline.

    Ec Regulation (Conservation)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) which member states have publicly indicated their support for the proposal from the United Kingdom Government for amendments to the proposed Agricultural Structures Regulation COM(83) 559, in favour of conservation; and what conditions have been attached to this support;(2) which member states have indicated their opposition to the proposal from the United Kingdom Government for amendments to the proposed Agricultural Structures Regulation, COM (83) 559, in favour of conservation; and on what grounds such opposition has been raised.

    The United Kingdom's initiative has so far attracted neither outright opposition nor clear support. I believe this reflects the fact that we are among the leaders in recognising the importance of encouraging environmentally sound farming practices.I shall continue to press our case at the next Council of Agriculture Ministers meeting on 25–26 February.

    Pesticides

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what monitoring activities are presently carried out on a regular basis by his Department of pesticide residues in food; and what resources have been devoted to these activities on an annual basis for the last five years for which figures are available.

    The working party on pesticide residues which reports to the interdepartmental steering group on food surveillance, the advisory committee on pesticides and the veterinary products committee continuously monitors both home-produced and imported food for residues of pesticides. A report of its activities for the period 1977 to 1981 was published in 1982 — the Ninth Report of the Steering Group on Food Surveillance, London, HMSO—and I expect a further comprehensive report of the more recent work proposed and co-ordinated by the working party to be published later this year. This will present inter alia the results of a three-year survey of residues of pesticides on United Kingdom and imported fruit and vegetables and of post-harvest fungicide treatments of cereals in store.The estimated expenditure for the financial year April 1984 to March 1985 is £505,000, and the expenditure for the year April 1983 to March 1984 was £449,000.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make available in the Library the pesticide usage survey report, produced by his Department, for the latest available dates.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what information is available, through his Department, of regional pesticide usage in agriculture in the United Kingdom.

    Pesticide usage surveys are designed to derive national figures on pesticide usage. Some of the reports give indications of differences in usage in different parts of the country which were surveyed. Copies of recent reports are being made available in the House Library.

    Development And Research (Expenditure)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what has been the annual expenditure devoted to development and research by his Department and the Agricultural Research Council, respectively, for each of the last five years for which figures are available; and if he will indicate for each year the percentage of resources devoted to crop protection.

    The information requested is as follows:

    Expenditure on Research and Development in Agriculture, Fisheries and Food
    MAFF In-HouseAFRC (MAFF) (Vote)AFRC (Science) (Vote)Other ContractorsTotal R & DCrop-Protection
    £ million£ million£ million£ million£ millionper cent.
    1979–8031·030·427·14·893·311·0
    1980–8140·137·434·05·5117·011·4
    1981–8250·044·337·57·2139·013·0
    1982–8358·948·638·79·2155·412·0
    1983–8459·351·340·89·3160·711·0
    SOURCES(i) MAFF Annual Reports on Research and Development.(ii) Annual Reports of the Agricultural and Food Research Council.

    Pests And Diseases (Control)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is aware of any experiments presently being conducted in the United Kingdom relating to measures designed for integrated control of pests and diseases in agriculture.

    Yes. Amongst experiments presently being conducted in the United Kingdom are projects at the glasshouse crops research institute, Rothamsted experimental station, East Malling research station and at ADAS laboratories.

    Herbicide 2,4,5-T

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what information he has as to the total amount of the herbicide 2,4,5-T used in Britain in each of the last five years in which records have been kept.

    The most recent survey of total amounts of the herbicide 2,4,5-T used in the United Kingdom relates to the calendar year 1979. Full details were published in the December 1980 report of the advisory committee on pesticides, a copy of which is in the Library.A survey of pesticide usage in agriculture and horticulture — including herbicides such as 2,4,5-T — is in progress. The results will be published in due course.

    Ec (Food Exports)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food why he has adopted the practice of placing details of European Economic Community food exports to the Soviet Union in the Library instead of in the Official Report; and if he will reconsider this decision.

    My hon. Friend is under a misapprehension. I answered his question on this matter on 14 January, at column 28, and published the information in the Official Report.

    Environment

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    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if regional emergency committees will meet between 26 February and 16 March.

    There are plans to hold meetings of the regional emergency committees between 26 February and 16 March.

    Birds Of Prey

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what charges were brought and what convictions were secured against registered breeders of birds of prey in 1984.

    No central record of the number of offences is available. Details of possible offences or irregularities which come to the Department's attention are referred to the police or other enforcement agencies. At least a dozen cases have, or will, come to court where the Department has provided information.

    Rents Acts

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will introduce in the current Session of Parliament legislation to amend the Rent Acts in relation to registered rents.

    We introduced various measures to stimulate the provision of private rented accommodation in the Housing Act 1980. My right hon. Friend is considering what further steps could be taken to encourage landlords to meet the demand for homes to rent. However, he has no plans to introduce legislation on this subject in the current Session.

    Thames Water Authority

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make it his policy that the external financing limit of the Thames water authority for the forthcoming financial year is set at such a level that the whole of the increase in revenues from the increase in financial target for the period is retained by the authority for use for the benefit of the customers of the authority.

    No. The Government's policy for all water authorities is that they should earn a reasonable return on their assets. External financing limits are then set having regard to investment needs.

    Local Authorities (Capital Expenditure)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will review the system of setting local authority permitted capital expenditure limits.

    My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State announced arrangements for local authority capital expenditure in 1985–86 in a statement to the House on 18 December 1984, at columns 164–65. In doing so, he said that he would be consulting the local authority associations about possible changes to the system for the longer term. Those discussions are now in train.

    London Planning Commission

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment, pursuant to his reply to the hon. Member for Harlow (Mr. Hayes) on 16 November 1984, Official Report, column 378, what range of information, and on which topics, will be collected and analysed by the London Planning Commission in the event of the Greater London council being abolished.

    I expect the London Planning Commission to be concerned with those topics upon which my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State will issue strategic guidance to help the London boroughs to prepare their unitary development plans. Such matters might include population trends and land for housing, provision for major industrial and commercial development, minerals planning and open space. The range of information to be considered will be commensurate with the commission's role.

    Glc (Research Library's Database)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many times his Department has used the Greater London council research library's Acompline online database; and what arrangements will be made to ensure that its users continue to receive this service in the event of the Greater London council's abolition.

    Glc (Housing Improvement Areas)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment which of the London boroughs containing Greater London council housing improvement areas are designated authorities under the Rates Act 1984.

    The following London boroughs, which are designated authorities for 1985–86 under the Rates Act 1984, also contain Greater London council housing action areas: Brent, Islington, Lambeth and Southwark.

    Docklands (Public Investment)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how much public investment in infrastructural works in Docklands had already taken place when the London Docklands Development Corporation became operational.

    This information was not collected for the UDC area prior to the formation of the London Docklands Development Corporation in July 1981. The Docklands joint committee did, however, carry out a number of infrastructure projects between 1974 and early 1981 in what is now the LDDC area, such as the consolidation of large areas of Surrey and London docks and the draining of Beckton marshes.

    Local Government (Interim Provisions) Act 1984

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what meetings have taken place between civil servants in his Department and officers of London boroughs to co-ordinate requests under section 5(2) of the Local Government (Interim Provisions) Act 1984; what boroughs were involved; and if he will make a statement.

    Housing Revenue Accounts

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what were his reasons for setting the 1984–85 grant-related expenditure in respect of rate fund contributions to the housing revenue account to zero for those authorities found to have notional surpluses on their housing revenue accounts.

    Following strong representations from authorities when block grant was introduced in 1981–82, the then Secretary of State decided that it was not right to assume in the distribution of block grant for 1982–83 that authorities with the potential to make a surplus on their housing revenue accounts would actually make those surpluses and transfer them to the general rate fund. The same decision has been made in each subsequent settlement.

    Voluntary Agencies (Support)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the deadline for responses to his consultation paper on support for the voluntary sector in the event of the Greater London council being abolished.

    While there is no set closing date for comments on this consultation paper, which was issued by my right hon. and learned Friend the Home Secretary, anyone still wishing to offer comments should do so as soon as possible.

    Rates (Cambridge University Study)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment, pursuant to his answer to the hon. Member for Hertfordshire, West (Mr. Jones) on 7 March 1984, Official Report, column 605, on what date he received the report of the study commissioned by his Department from the University of Cambridge into the effect of rate levels upon employment; and when he expects to publish the report.

    The report of the Cambridge team was received in the Department of the Environment on Thursday 24 January 1985. It will be considered by the interdepartmental steering group for the project. Decisions on publication will then be taken in the normal way.

    Public Building

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many permanent new buildings were started in the public sector during the last six months of 1984; and how this compares with the last six months of 1979.

    The information as requested is not available. The values of new orders received by contractors for public building and civil engineering work in Great Britain at 1980 prices were £1,770 million and £1,950 million respectively for the five months July to November 1979 and 1984. December information is not yet available for 1984.

    "A Better Future For The Uplands"

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he can now respond to the Countryside Commission's report, "A Better Future for the Uplands."

    The Government have given careful consideration to the report and I have today sent the following letter to the chairman, Sir Derek Barber, which sets out the Government's views.Dear Sir DerekA BETTER FUTURE FOR THE UPLANDS

    I must congratulate you first of all on an admirable report —comprehensive, well researched, attractively produced, pertinent, and readable. I appreciate too the efforts you have made to command the co-operation and participation of all concerned with the wellbeing of the uplands. So my thanks to all those who made a contribution to the exercise.
    The report has another salient virtue—it is focussed and practical. It shows concern for overall strategy, but recognises that we do not live in a world of ideal and immediate solutions.
    In one sense, the timing of your report could not have been better. Change is in the air and that is clearly the moment to press forward with proposals and recommendations. But, in the shorter term, it poses a dilemma. We are considering a number of rural and agricultural measures but at this stage the exact outcome of various policy initiatives is still unclear. Many of the decisions to be taken could have considerable relevance for the uplands and conversely many of your proposals have implications for other rural areas.
    Against this fluctuating background, what I propose to do at this stage is to respond to as many of your specific recommendations as present circumstances will allow, giving at the same time a broad indication of the government's overall thinking and attitudes on the issues before us. What I do not propose to do is to rehearse once again at length the facts, figures and conflicting arguments. This means that our response is not comprehensive nd has inevitably something of an interim flavour. This, however, has certain advantages. None of us—government, local authorities, the statutory agencies, the voluntary organsations—has ever been under any illusion that the future of the uplands could be settled by a single, once-for-all, package of decisions. With so many complex factors involved, progress cannot be other than evolutionary, taking account of new problems and new opportunities. The subject will continue to preoccupy us all. One thing is certain: thanks to your report, future decisions will be taken in the light of a thorough and up to date assessment of the issues.
    We are certainly in agreement on the broad policy objectives, as set out in your first recommendation (paragraph 139). Sustaining vigorous upland communities and improving their quality of life economically and socially, while protecting and enhancing the wildlife, landscape and historic heritage of the uplands and ensuring accessibility to as many as possible, has our wholehearted commitment. I endorse them entirely. Whatever the faults and failures of the past, future decisions on the uplands must represent a careful reconciliation of social, economic and evironmental factors. Lopsided progress in one direction only, at the expense of other objectives, will not be acceptable.

    Rural Development

    Turning to specific matters, I will comment first on the subject of rural development. This is, of course, a broad concept which impinges on a variety of policies, and with which many different agencies are necessarily involved. The same objectives apply in England and in Wales: but the mechanisms differ. In England the Development Commission's Rural Development Areas, designated by using a mixture of social and economic criteria, have an important role. Rural Development Areas are given priority assistance by the Commission and most of the uplands are within them.

    The Commission intends to establish within these areas Rural Development Programmes which will provide a more comprehensive and better co-ordinated approach to the full range of problems facing deprived rural areas than was in fact offered by the Action Plans which they will replace. These programmes — and the consultative procedures which produce them — will be of major importance in the task of attaining a proper balance of social, economic, environmental and recreational measures in the uplands. Developments in agriculture and in the use of farm resources for non-agricultural purposes will be a vital element here and, with this in mind, ADAS will play a full part in the Rural Development Programme process. At the same time, there is no intention that Rural Development Programmes should replace structure and local plans drawn up by local authorities and other bodies.

    In Wales, where 40 per cent. of the uplands of the two countries are found, the Secretary of State for Wales plays a central co-ordinating role in the stimulation of rural development, in the light of the extensive nature of his ministerial responsibilities — the economy, agriculture, the environment, planning, transport, housing and many other matters. He encourages active cooperation between the various organisations in the field.

    A leading role is also played by two bodies — the Welsh Development Agency (WDA) and Mid Wales Development (MWD). Both bodies offer a wide range of measures to foster suitable projects in upland areas — factory sites, including workshops specifically designed for craft industries, grants for the conversion of redundant buildings and business advice for new and existing firms. WDA, in addition, offers throughout Wales a useful package of investment schemes, including special rural loans. With its interest in social as well as economic needs, MWD can also help with the provision of housing, shopping, cultural, leisure and social facilities, tourist developments and transport. Both bodies are continually seeking to develop new initiatives which will benefit the rural economy.

    On the question of finance, I do not think it would be wise to earmark certain proportions of the funds of the development and tourist agencies for uplands work. That, I believe, would be too inflexible. I consider therefore that it must remain the task of the individual organisation to assess the competing needs and priorities and to allocate its funds accordingly. I would not wish to alter this arrangement. It is an indication of the priority we give to their work that the general level of funding for the development and tourist agencies has been shielded from reductions in public expenditure.

    Furthermore funding activities of the Manpower Services Commission in upland areas are perhaps not as fully appreciated as they might be. Their Community Programme is already making a valuable contribution, with £2¼ million already committed to projects in upland areas since its introduction in October 1982. This and the Voluntary Projects Programme, recently extended to March 1986, could provide funds for further work in the uplands, although it must be admitted that competition for the available resources is intense.

    Agriculture

    A healthy and profitable agricultural sector is undoubtedly vital to the maintenance of the upland economy and the conservation of the upland landscape. The government accepts that a case exists for looking more closely at some aspects of the way in which support is given to upland farming and we have already adopted the principle that enhanced rates of capital grants should be used to encourage agricultural development sympathetic to the environment. To this end, the farm capital grant schemes now provide for a higher rate of grant for hedges and shelter belts as well as for walls and dykes built of traditional local materials rather than fencing. This is another step towards achieving a closer integration of conservation and agricultural policies; it is intended to develop the concept further.
    In addition, the government is pressing in Brussels for an amendment to the draft EC structures regulation designed to enable member states to encourage, in environmentally sensitive areas, farming practices consonant with conservation of the environment. It is in any event our intention to introduce further measures to help conservation in the UK.
    Small or part-time farmers can clearly play a positive role in the economy of rural communities in the uplands. The European Community's new measures to improve agricultural structures are likely to change the conditions of eligibility for capital grants to the advantage of such farmers, although it has not yet been decided precisely how the new Structures Regulation will be implemented in the United Kingdom. We recognise that the Countryside Commission is in a position to contribute to the formulation of farm structures policy and in due course we shall be seeking your advice, as well as that of other relevant statutory agencies, on the implementation in the UK of the new structural measures.
    Hill Livestock Compensatory Allowances represent a major part of hill fanning net incomes and so are an important factor in maintaining farming communities in these areas. This year support is being extended for the first time to the newly designated less favoured areas though at lower rates than the originally designated hill areas.

    Diversification

    The government agrees with the Commission that there is considerable potential for business diversification by farmers in some areas and that socio-economic advice provided by ADAS has an important role in developing this.
    ADAS operates a three-tier service in this field. Regional Socio-Economic Advisers are backed up by approximately 70 Special Interest Advisers stationed at divisional and area offices. The majority of front line advisers can also draw on a wealth of experience which enables them to give advice on many socio-economic matters, for example, regarding family farms and links with other organisations with rural interests. This expertise is readily available and farmers can draw on it heavily as and when they need it. But it is vital in this type of work to go at the pace the farming industry both wants and can assimilate at any one time. Accordingly, the supply and demand situation concerning this sort of advice is being kept under constant review. The recent review of ADAS stressed the role of conservation and socio-economic advice.
    ADAS is encouraging the trend towards diversification in line with the duty placed upon the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food in the Wildlife and Countryside Act (Section 41). Current and future initiatives include enterprise groups in Wales, involvement with the Development Commission over Rural Development Programmes, meetings and seminars with both county and district local authorities, and finally a series of ADAS-organised meetings on diversification being held in England and Wales this winter and involving farmers, landlords, local authorities, the tourist boards and COSIRA.
    I note your criticism of our decision not to implement the provisions in the LFA Directive which allows grant to be paid to farmers for small-scale tourist and craft enterprises. The conditions attached to these provisions, together with stringent restrictions on the amount of expenditure on tourism and craft projects eligible for aid, have so limited the scope of the measure that the government has not considered it worthwhile. However, as the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food announced on 11 December, when the new capital grants schemes are introduced in 1985 to implement the new EC farm structure policy, it is the government's intention to introduce further measures to encourage farmers to diversify into non-farming enterprises—aids to tourist and craft enterprises being obvious candidates.

    Conservation of the Countryside

    Conservation of the countryside is an objective to which this government is wholeheartedly committed. A whole series of decisions since 1979 have reflected the high priority which we attach to it. Most recently, our decision to step up the funding of both the Countryside Commission and the Nature Conservancy Council, at a time when retrenchment is the order of the day, provides further evidence of our determination to maintain the pace of achievement in this area. The Wildlife and Countryside Act marked a significant advance and we are pledged to the closing of the three-month SSSI loophole. We have also sought to ensure that agricultural policies, particularly on farm capital grants, take proper account of the requirements of conservation, and when the grant schemes were amended both in 1983 and 1984, we grasped the opportunity to make modifications in the interests of conservation. I believe that our record in this area is first-class and we intend to build further on what has already been achieved.
    We recognise that livestocking practices in the uplands might conflict with conservation objectives in certain circumstances, but there is no evidence of a general problem of overstocking, against which there are in any case already powerful safeguards. The statutory rules provide that HLCAs are not payable on animals in excess of the numbers the land can carry without overgrazing. ADAS look into any cases of localised overstocking and will recommend reductions in payments where appropriate. More generally, there are overall financial and numerical limits of £60 and 6 sheep per hectare in severely disadvantaged areas and £45 and 9 sheep in disadvantaged areas.
    Conservation of moorland presents particular problems because much of it depends on agricultural use for its upkeep. We did, of course, in December 1984 withdraw grant aid for land reclamation throughout Great Britain. I am not, however, convinced that the further measures you propose—which we have considered most carefully — would necessarily be more effective than the existing procedure. On the one hand, while blanket withdrawals of grant would be unfair to the individual farmer, land improvement which would be beneficial to conservation would also be excluded. In particular, withdrawal of drainage and the range of land improvement grants from section 43 areas would be an unnecessarily severe step which would deny aid to very many farmers who need these grants to sustain the viability of their farms and who are able to carry out these operations without harm to the landscape. Nevertheless I believe it would be a mistake to regard the matter as closed. I therefore propose, with your assistance, to keep the subject under review in the light of futher experience with the working of the Wildlife and Countryside Act. This process will be helped, I believe, by the review of Section 43 maps which I understand you are putting in hand at our suggestion.
    I also have little doubt that local planning authorities would not welcome the extra burden on their resources implied by your proposals to amend planning controls on farming and forestry. In reaching these conclusions, I have been influenced — and impressed — by Dr. Brotherton's figures for the grant notification arrangements in National Parks in the first six months following implementation of Section 41; out of 2,757 cases, only 6 had not been resolved locally. The second six months gives similar results.
    We have given the most careful consideration to the related suggestion that the exemption currently given to certain farm buildings and farm and forest roads under the General Development Order should be withdrawn throughout the LFAs. We are not, however, convinced that the scale of the landscape problems arising from construction of new farm buildings and roads is sufficient to warrant what would amount to a considerable extension of planning control when we strive to avoid such extensions unless there is very clear justification for them.
    I can, however, report a modest but significant step forward which we intend to take immediately. We accept that in National Parks there is a case for a system of improved control over the siting and design of farm building and farm and forest roads, provided this can be done without undue cost for local authorities and disruption for the farming community. I have therefore decided to issue a consultation paper proposing that a new LASDO be made covering the design and siting of all farm buildings and farm and forest roads in all National Parks. This will enable the arguments for and against to be exhaustively examined. A change in this direction was recommended, as you will know, by the 1974 report of the National Parks Policies Review Committee. No action was taken because the National Parks Authorities had no power to make discretionary grants to meet the additional costs incurred in meeting more stringent design standards. They now have such a power, thanks to Section 44 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act which this government included to allow change of the kind we now contemplate to operate fairly. As with conservation areas and listed buildings, we do not believe that there should be an automatic right to compensation if conditions on siting or construction details are imposed, but we do believe that discretionary grants under Section 44 should be available. Steps would need to be taken to avoid duplication of work in cases where grant is claimed; but this requires administrative rather than legislative action.

    Forestry

    We cannot accept that a case has yet been made that planning controls should be introduced over forestry. Timber production has both balance of payments and, to some extent, strategic implications and contributes to the social fabric of the uplands. Ways of reconciling forestry, conservation and amenity must, however, be seen to be effective if public support for forestry is to continue.
    Forestry Commission planting policies have been criticised in some quarters as insensitive, but the consultation procedures for forestry grants and felling permissions introduced some years ago, and only recently revised, have shown that acceptable solutions to land-use problems in this area can be found by a relatively informal approach. A key role in this process is performed by the Regional Advisory Committees composed of members with expertise in agriculture, planning and environment as well as forestry matters. To meet the concern that the Committee's proceedings are not as open as the equivalent planning process, the Forestry Commission is currently looking at ways of achieving greater public accountability.

    Woodlands

    We share your concern for native woodlands in the uplands and support the provision of advice and encouragement for woodland management in the interests of timber, conservation and shelter. Such advice and encouragement are already provided by ADAS, the Forestry Commission, numerous County Councils and private consultants in regard to farm woodlands and a Forestry Commission working group has recently reviewed the state of broadleaves in Britain as a whole. The Commission will be making recommendations to Ministers in due course and some of these will be relevant to the uplands. The government are also considering the extent to which farm woodlands might be encouraged as a means of diversifying the farm business.
    As regards the possible inclusion of enclosed broadleaf woodlands in the HLCA calculations, present Community legislation does not provide for land which is not part of the forage area to be included in the calculation of a farm's financial ceiling for the HLCA payments. However, once the new Agricultural Structures regulation is adopted, the government will consider whether there is any scope for certain areas of woodland to be taken into account.

    Minerals

    We have repeatedly made it clear that consideration of environmental impact must be an integral part of the planning process both when structure and local plans are being drawn up and when specific applications are being considered. In sensitive areas, all possible alternatives, and measures to minimise harmful effects, need to be looked at even more carefully than elsewhere. But bearing in mind the trend of diversification away from agriculture and the simple geological fact that certain types and qualities of minerals are concentrated in the uplands, I am inclined to the view that your report possibly underplays the benefits and importance (not least to employment) of their extraction in suitable — and carefully controlled — circumstances. The gains cannot be lightly dismissed and it should never be forgotten that they have been achieved for a generation within a planning system that has provided a whole battery of safeguards. It is the government's continuing commitment that applications for new mineral workings and extensions to existing workings should be subject to the most rigorous examination, especially in national parks.

    Public Access

    Your report contained several recommendations about the important issue of public access in the uplands. We appreciate the concern both about the need for access and the problems which can be associated with increasing numbers of visitors in the uplands. We believe that the best way to handle both concerns is by leaving them in the hands of the National Park Authorities and the local authorities on the basis of their existing powers. In this context the Secretary of State for Wales and I were pleased to be able to announce an increase in the level of National Park supplementary grant for 1985–86 somewhat in excess of the rate of inflation.
    Many aspects of access to the countryside are, of course, currently being examined in a research study sponsored by the Countryside Commission and the Sports Council and due to be completed this year. We will look again at access policies when we have the Countryside Commission's review based on the findings of the study. You recommend that existing access arrangements on Forestry Commission forest lands be protected when sold to the private sector. This raises legal problems and a voluntary code of practice by the private sector might be a more sensible solution. The research may help here, too.
    As regards the outstanding recommendations of the Royal Commission on Common Land, the government has already made it clear that it favours further legislation in due course. We welcomed the Countryside Commission's initiative a year ago in establishing a Common Land Forum to discuss and agree recommendations for such further legislation and we look forward to receiving the Commission's recommendations based on the Forum's conclusions.

    Housing

    You argue in favour of higher Housing Investment Programme allocations for district councils with large rural areas in order to meet the special housing needs of the uplands. I think it can reasonably be argued that, by and large, the system already reflects, and caters for, those special needs, within, of course, the usual limitations imposed by the need for public expenditure restraint. There are two main components in the Housing Investment Programme system in England. One is an objective assessment of housing needs (the Generalised Needs Index) based on specific indicators like stock conditions; the other is the Local Discretionary Element under which the particular circumstances of individual local authorities are taken into account and reflected in allocations. If an authority argues that it has a special need in relation to housing in upland areas, this would be taken into account. In Wales, the methodology is slightly different, but the principle is the same. It is a cardinal feature of both systems that once the broad allocations are made, it is for the local authorities themselves to decide how they are used. The consultations on Rural Development Programmes could provide an obvious opportunity to discuss at local level the housing needs of such areas.
    As a contribution towards the needs of young workers setting up home for the first time, the Development Commission and the Housing Corporation are currently engaged in a pilot project to provide up to 100 dwellings in rural areas on shared ownership terms. The Commission is contributing £5,000 towards each unit. 85 have been approved so far and some of these will be in upland areas. A modified follow-up scheme has been recently announced and its results will be carefully monitored. It is hoped local authorities will benefit from the experience gained and follow the lead given.

    Health and Social Service

    The government believes that the organisation of health and personal social services is best determined in the light of local circumstances and local needs. It accepts that people living in remote areas have a need equal with those in urban centres for advice and information on health, social service and social security matters.

    Education

    The concern felt about village school closures is very natural, but the objective for education in rural areas must be as far as possible to provide children with the same educational opportunities as pupils of their own age in towns and cities. This inevitably involves local education authorities in a selective programme of closures to secure the best use of available resources and to avoid, wherever possible, the diminished opportunities that can occur in schools that are too small. The new Education Support Grants being introduced in 1985 have been offered to six authorities for pilot projects aimed at improving the education experience in small schools. The Secretary of State for Education and Science in England and the Secretary of State for Wales, as appropriate, consider all proposeals for school closures on their individual merits; an important factor in their decision is the difficulty of the journey that would be involved for pupils travelling to alternative schools.

    Transport

    Particular attention is paid to rural services in the recently published White Paper Buses (Cmnd 9300), which expresses the Government's concern at the decline of bus services in sparsely populated areas. I cannot do better than quote paragraph 3.11 of the White Paper:
    "The Government proposes supplementary measures to help county councils to modernise and improve rural transport services and will be monitoring their effects in the context of deregulation. First, innovation must be encouraged. A new grant will be created to encourage new transport schemes for communities in rural areas. In England, the grant will be for up to £1 million a year, administered by the Development Commission. Similar arrangements will be made for Scotland and Wales. Second, competitive tendering will help authorities to achieve much better value for money for the service they decide to support. But the full benefits of tendering will not be felt immediately. So, third, the Government will make available additional help to maintain vital rural services in this transitional period. This will take the form of a special grant available for 4 years and paid direct to operators of eligible services in rural areas. The total value of the grant will be up to £20m in the first full year reducing by even steps in subsequent years."
    Of the unconventional services available, post buses have already proved themselves of value in providing transport in upland areas of Scotland and may have great potential in England and Wales. The proposal made in the White Paper to permit more widespread operation of shared taxi and hire car services could also make a substantial contribution to transport services in the uplands.

    Policy Coordination

    It is worth mentioning that at local level the development plan process provides a ready made framework for a comprehensive and integrated approach to rural land use, including that in the uplands. The plan making process includes extensive consultation with Government Departments, agencies and other bodies and public participation is an important aspect.
    In Wales a wide range of Ministerial responsibilities including Agriculture, Economic Development, the Environment, Planning, Transport and Housing, among others, rests with my colleague the Secretary of State for Wales. He encourages the agencies to work together and with local authorities in collaborative ventures and is well placed to ensure that policies are effectively coordinated.
    Here at the centre I and my colleagues keep our policies in step. When government policy affects so many aspects of life, however, it is a continuing and difficult task to establish the right balance. When circumstances change quickly, perhaps accelerated by technological advances, contradictions and inconsistencies may arise. These must be corrected but without overreaction — the effect of which would produce a constant seesaw in government policy. I can assure you that our efforts in the uplands will be to achieve a sensible balance and a sensible solution to the problems which you have identified and in particular we shall be aiming to integrate our conservation and agricultural policies.
    I agree, therefore, that policy towards the uplands needs careful coordination and a clear sense of our objectives so that we do not lose these vulnerable landscapes and their supporting populations through a lack of perception of their overriding needs. We are aware of the different objectives and we shall measure our policies against them. Nevertheless it is important that policy in the uplands should fit within a national framework. It would be unrealistic to expect that the future of our uplands could be settled in isolation. I think it is also unrealistic to expect the Less Favoured Areas directive to deal with all the problems of rural development (as you recommend in paragraph 190). Rural conditions vary considerably within the United Kingdom, even more so throughout the EEC. What we can do is to attempt to harmonise the measures we make available and leave it to the local authorities and other agencies at the local level to implement them according to local needs as they perceive them. This is consistent with the best traditions of democracy and decentralised decision making.
    The question of parliamentary scrutiny is of course a matter for the appropriate Select Committees but nonetheless I assume they would find it necessary to relate policies towards the uplands to the national context.
    On the question of flexibility in the operation of policies, I would hope that it would be possible to give sympathetic consideration to the sort of joint official projects you have in mind. Perhaps it would be best to look at these case by case.

    Conclusion

    The report A Better Future for the Uplands identifies very clearly the main issues facing the uplands of England and Wales and provides an invaluable guide to the thinking of the Commission and the other organisations involved. As this letter indicates, it has already influenced Government thinking on these problems and it will undoubtedly continue to do so.
    It is, in a word, a milestone, but a milestone on a road which stretches far ahead. This letter, as I have already emphasised, is by no means the end of the story as far as policies for the uplands are concerned. At the same time, I very much hope that what I have said, and the decisions I have indicated, make it abundantly clear that the government's approach to these problems is positive and constructive. There are a number of key themes in policies for the uplands and I have touched on them throughout this letter. We accept the need for a prosperous agricultural industry which can and does make a major contribution to a thriving rural sector and the conservation of the countryside. We welcome the increasing awareness of the importance of conservation, and the extent to which the voluntary principle is accepted. National policies must set the framework but within that there is considerable scope for local initiative and contributions from non-governmental bodies.
    Indeed, if there is one theme which I would particularly like to emphasise in conclusion, it is that a brighter future for the uplands will be achieved, not by government decisions alone, but by the strenuous and purposeful exertions of the many different organisations and individuals involved, working to mutually agreed objectives. I believe that this cooperative approach, already strongly in evidence, will accomplish a great deal and we shall play our full part in it.
    I am copying this letter to the Chairmen of the Development Board for Rural Wales, the Development Commission, the English Tourist Board, and the Wales Tourist Board."

    WILLIAM WALDEGRAVE

    Prime Minister

    Markyate, Hertfordshire

    Q28.

    asked the Prime Minister if she will pay an official visit to Markyate, Hertfordshire.

    Coal Industry Dispute

    Q69.

    asked the Prime Minister if she will now consider the representation of the Welsh Churches organisations supported by the south Wales National Union of Mineworkers and the National Union of Mineworkers nationally, to attempt to prepare a basis for immediate negotiations with the National Coal Board to resolve the mining dispute.

    The hon. Gentleman will be aware that my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Energy met the leaders of both the British Council of Churches and the Council of Churches for Wales last week. I share the concern expressed by the Churches about the damage this pointless dispute is inflicting on the mining industry and its communities. Like them, I also wish for a swift, constructive settlement. But any settlement must offer the industry a viable future.

    Capital Funds

    asked the Prime Minister if she will now take steps to control the movement of capital funds out of the United Kingdom.

    Engagements

    asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 31 January.

    asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 31 January.

    asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 31 January.

    asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 31 January.

    asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 31 January.

    This morning I presided at a meeting of the Cabinet and had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others. In addition to my duties in the House I shall be having further meetings later today.

    Regional Development Grants (Wales)

    asked the Prime Minister why she has transferred to the Welsh Office responsibility for the administration of all regional development grants in Wales.

    Regional development grants, in the form introduced by the Co-operative Development Agency and Industrial Development Act 1984, will, for the future, be most sensibly administered together with regional selective assistance. Both forms of assistance are on a project basis and normally linked to jobs. A consistent approach towards projects in receipt of both forms of assistance is needed. Therefore, the payment of regional development grants in Wales has, since 29 November 1984, been the responsibility of the Secretary of State for Wales, who was already responsible for payments under section 7 of the Industrial Development Act 1982. Similar arrangements have been made in Scotland.

    Milk Production

    asked the Prime Minister what is the Government's reason for providing compensation to dairy farmers for reducing the amount of over-production of milk.

    The purpose of the outgoers scheme is to obtain quota for reallocation to those producers who are most disadvantaged by the introduction of milk quotas, in particular small producers and exceptional hardship cases. To make this possible, payments are offered to farmers who are willing to give up milk production and surrender their quotas.

    Agriculture (Competitiveness)

    asked the Prime Minister whether it is the Government's policy to make agriculture fully competitive with imports from all sources.

    Price levels for agricultural products in the United Kingdom are largely determined by the mechanisms of the common agricultural policy. It is Government policy to help the industry remain competitive.

    Agriculture (Hills And Marginal Areas)

    asked the Prime Minister what are the reasons for the Government's support for agriculture in the hills and other marginal areas.

    This support makes a major contribution to the rural economy, to the maintenance of the environment and to our competitive relations with other European Community member countries.

    Water Industry (Privatisation)

    asked the Prime Minister if she will consider proposals for the privatisation of the water industry.

    The Government would welcome new ideas on privatisation. However, the water authorities are natural monopolies for many of their functions and we need to be particularly careful when considering replacing a public monopoly by a private one. Because of the environmental and public health responsibilities, any proposal to privatise them would also raise issues of regulation. There are 30 private water companies which are concerned only with water supply and which are mainly regulated by statute.

    Falkland Islands (Oil Drilling Rights)

    asked the Prime Minister what representations Her Majesty's Government have received with regard to the granting of a licence to Firstland Oil plc for drilling rights on the Falklands.

    asked the Prime Minister whether any conditions regarding the use of the use of profits arising as a result of onshore oil exploration in the Falklands were imposed in the licence granted to Firstland Oil plc.

    In accordance with the Falkland Islands Mining (Mineral Oil) Regulations 1964, the licence provides for royalties to be paid to the Falkland Islands Government on any oil or gas extracted. It also provides that an annual rent will be paid to the Falkland Islands Government.

    Falkland Islands

    asked the Prime Minister if she will make a statement on her discussions with Mr. Perez de Cuellar on 23 January about the Falkland Islands.

    Details of my discussions with Mr. Perez de Cuellar must remain confidential.

    asked the Prime Minister if she is satisfied with the steps taken to encourage re-investment of profits in the Falklands.

    Yes. The aim of the Falkland Islands Development Corporation is to encourage investment in the development and diversification of the local economy, including reinvestment of funds generated in the Islands. We hope that the opening of a branch of Standard Chartered bank in Stanley in January 1984 will assist the same objective.

    Ve Day (40Th Anniversary)

    asked the Prime Minister if any steps are to be taken by the British embassy in the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics to mark the 40th anniversary of the end of the war against Nazi Germany; whether it is intended to mark the occasion in Moscow jointly with representatives of the Soviet authorities; and if she will make a statement.

    Our embassy in Moscow, together with those of our partners and allies, is continuing to monitor closely Soviet preparations for the commemoration of the end of the last war in Europe. If, in due course, the Soviet Union were formally to invite the United Kingdom to participate in the commemorative events in Moscow the invitation would be studied carefully and a reply given after consultation with our allies.

    asked the Prime Minister if the Government intend to invite representatives of the United States of America, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and France to a gathering in the United Kingdom to mark the 40th anniversary of the end of the war against Nazi Germany; and if she will make a statement.

    I refer the hon. Member to the replies I gave to my right hon. and learned Friend the Member for Hexham (Mr. Rippon) on 15 January at column 180 and to the right hon. Member for South Down (Mr. Powell) on 17 January at column 505. I expect both our wartime and our present allies to be represented.

    Zeus Security Consultants

    asked the Prime Minister which Government Departments have placed contracts in the past year with Zeus Security Consultants.

    Information of this kind is not held centrally, but I refer the hon. Member to the reply given to him by my hon. Friend, the Minister of State, Treasury, on 28 January at column 17.

    Chile

    asked the Prime Minister why the United Kingdom abstained on resolutions at the United Nations General Assembly criticising the human rights situation in Chile in 1982 and 1983; and if she will place copies of those resolutions in the Library.

    In 1982 we voted in the third committee in favour of the Chile resolution. We later abstained in the plenary because we believed the resolution to have been unbalanced by a subsequent amendment. We stressed in our explanation of vote that this abstention did not reflect any lessening in our concerns over the human rights situation in Chile. In 1983 we again abstained because we judged the Chile resolution lacked balance but in our explanation of vote repeated our concern over human rights. The resolutions and our explanation of vote are already in the Library of the House.

    asked the Prime Minister why the United Kingdom abstained on the 1981 resolution at the Commission of Human Rights criticising human rights in Chile; and if she will place a copy of the resolution in the Library.

    We abstained because we judged the resolution unbalanced. In a separate paragraph vote we supported the renewal of the mandate of the special rapporteur for Chile. Both the resolution and our explanation of vote are already in the Library of the House.

    Chronically Sick And Disabled Persons Act 1970

    asked the Prime Minister, pursuant to her reply about the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act to the hon. Member for Stretford (Mr. Lloyd) on 13 December, Official Report, column 1204, if she will publish in the Official Report her letter on this matter to the right hon. Member for Manchester, Wythenshawe, dated 23 January.

    Yes. The letter is as follows:

    "Thank you for your letter of 27 December about the reply I gave to Tony Lloyd in the House on 13 December about the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act. I am grateful for this opportunity to clarify the position.
    Where a local authority is satisfied of an individual disabled person's need for one of the services listed in Section 2 of the Act, it has a duty to make arrangements to meet that need. In that sense this part of the Act is certainly mandatory. However, it is for the local authority itself to assess need and to detemine how it should best be met. To that extent there is also an element of discretion.
    You can rest assured that it was not my intention in any way to question the statutory duties imposed by the Act on local authorities, nor to indicate any change in the advice given to successive Ministers for the Disabled on this point. I am sorry if the wording of my reply suggested otherwise."

    Vj Day (40Th Anniversary)

    asked the Prime Minister what official arrangements are being made to mark the 40th anniversary of victory over Japan day; and whether, among other organisations, the National Federation of Far Eastern Prisoners of War Clubs and Associations and the Burma Star Association are being fully consulted about the arrangements.

    I said in the House on 17 January at column 504, that we shall remember both VE day and VJ day in our commemoration. The format is being considered and we shall make an announcement in due course. We are already aware of the views of a range of associations. As our planning progresses we shall consult further with relevant associations through the good offices of the Royal British Legion.

    Flight Lieut Richard Thomas

    asked the Prime Minister why Flight Lieut. Richard Thomas was on loan to the Chilean air force; and whether any other military personnel have been on loan to the Chilean military since January 1982.

    Flight Lieut. Thomas was on loan to the Chilean air force to assist with flying training on Hunter aircraft. No more than two British military personnel have been on loan to Chile at any one time since January 1982; all have been RAF instructors.

    Chile (Uranium Supplies)

    asked the Prime Minister if she has offered to supply, or authorised the supply of, enriched uranium to the Chilean Government; and if she will make a statement.

    I refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply given by the then Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Energy in a written answer on 6 December 1982 at column 344 to the hon. Member for Linlithgow (Mr. Dalyell). Deliveries under the contract referred to in this reply were completed in early 1984. No further requests for the supply of enriched uranium have been received from the Chilean Government.We are aware that the Chilean Government are considering refurbishment of a research reactor not currently in commission. If they were to offer the United Kingdom a contract for fuel supply we would consider an export licence application in the light of the policy set out in the answer that I gave to the hon. Member on 28 January at columns 24–25.

    asked the Prime Minister what is the policy of Her Majesty's Government to the transfer of enriched uranium to Chile.

    Any transfer of enriched uranium to Chile would be dealt with on a case-by-case basis, but the Government's general policy on the transfer of enriched uranium to Chile falls within the guidelines set out in the answer that I gave to the hon. Member on 28 January at columns 24–25.

    Defence

    Merchant Marine (Research Projects And Studies)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will list the research projects and studies on merchant marine issues which are currently under commission by his Department, their purpose, the organisations which are carrying out the work, and the costs.

    The Ministry of Defence and the Department of Transport are undertaking a joint study into the future availability of merchant shipping for defence purposes. As part of that study the Department of Transport has commissioned SEA Group consultants to forecast future trends of availability in certain categories of merchant shipping. The cost of the consultants' study is a matter for the Department of Transport. There are no other research projects or studies currently under commission to outside bodies or consultants.

    Type 22 Frigate

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will define the expression "other relevant factors", as used in his answer of Friday 18 January, that are to be taken into account before the decision is made as to the placement of the two type 22 warships; and what is the weight that is being given to social and commercial factors, respectively, in coming to a decision.

    I have nothing to add to the statement made by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State on 28 January at column 21.

    Mcv 80 Project

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the progress of the MCV 80 project.

    I am happy to say that progress on this important project continues to be very satisfactory. Main development of the MCV 80 infantry section vehicle was successfully completed towards the end of last year and the prime contractor, GKN Sankey, is pressing ahead with the development of variant vehicles for the infantry command, repair and recovery, and artillery observation roles. Following the decisions on competitive procurement arrangements, which were announced on 23 January last year, at column 400, by my predecessor, my hon. Friend the member for Chertsey and Walton (Mr. Pattie), tenders have been invited from GKN Sankey and from three other potential manufacturers, and a contract has been placed for long lead items for initial production.

    Greenham Common

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if nuclear biological and chemical defence equipment is stored on the United States air force base at Greenham common

    As far as offensive equipment is concerned (a) Greenham common is a base for ground-launched cruise missiles; (b) there are no stocks of chemical weapons at United States bases in Great Britain; (c) there is no question of biological weapons being held at Greenham common because the United Kingdom and the USA observe the 1972 biological weapons convention which bans the development, possession and stockpiling of biological weapons.As far as defensive NBC protective equipment is concerned, I cannot for security reasons indicate at which specific locations such equipment is held.

    Raf Chilwell

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the date on which the memorandum of understanding between his Department and the United States authorities regarding RAF Chilwell was signed.

    RAF Chilwell was formally made available to the United States Air Force on 9 May 1984 under the terms agreed in an exchange of letters.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether the use to be made of facilities at Chilwell by the United States air force will include support for the 501st Tactical Missile Wing.

    The vehicles stored by the United States air force are general support vehicles, such as fuel bowsers and tractors; none is earmaked for use by the 501st Tactical Missile Wing.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many civilian jobs will be created as a result of the acquisiton by the United States air force of facilities at RAF Chilwell.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether vehicles stationed at RAF Chilwell by the United States air force will be required to take part in dispersal exercises.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many United States personnel will be stationed at RAF Chilwell; and whether there will he any personnel accommodated in the area.

    There are no plans to station American personnel at RAF Chilwell, and therefore no plans to provide housing for them in the area.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether RAF Chilwell will host United States air force personnel and equipment in 1985.

    General support vehicles are already stored at RAF Chilwell. They are at present maintained periodically by visiting USAF personnel from other bases.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement compatible with the interests of national security regarding the function of RAF Chilwell.

    The facilities at RAF Chilwell are to be made available to the USAF for the storage of general support vehicles such as fuel bowsers and tractors.

    Army Road Block, Westdown Camp

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the purpose of the army road blocks in the vicinity of Westdown camp, near Tilshead, on 11 December 1984; how many cars were stopped; on whose authority; with what results; and why cars of Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament members were not allowed to proceed.

    A number of roads on the Salisbury plain training area were closed on 11 December, in accordance with the provisions of the relevant byelaws, while military exercises took place. Traffic control points were also set up on some public roads, in liaison with the civil police, in order to control the flow of military exercise traffic crossing roads at designated points. No records were kept of cars which were affected by these measures.

    Rnad Broughton Moor

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether there have been any changes in the operational arrangements for RNAD Broughton Moor.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the operational role of RNAD Broughton Moor.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether there has been any increase in the last 12 months in the number of persons employed at RNAD Broughton Moor.

    Falklands Campaign (Captured Weapons)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the use by Her Majesty's forces of 35 mm Oerlikon guns captured from Argentina during the Falklands campaign.

    Twin 35 mm Oerlikon guns with their associated Skyguard fire control system, captured during the Falklands campaign, will enter service with the Royal Auxiliary Air Force in a squadron due to form at RAF Waddington on 1 April 1985.

    Wintex '85

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence which North Atlantic Treaty Organisation commands will be involved in the WINTEX '85 exercise.

    All major NATO commands, major subordinate commands and principal subordinate commands will take part in the exercise.

    Northern Ireland

    Exceptional Heating Allowance

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland whether he has now approved an exceptional heating allowance to persons in receipt of supplementary benefits to ameliorate the effects of the severe weather in Northern Ireland; what criteria are used to determine when such an allowance is paid; and if he will make a statement.

    Remanded Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what was the average period of remand without bail in each of the following cases involving accomplice witness's evidence or (a) persons convicted, (b) persons acquitted and (c) persons who were released as a result of such evidence being retracted; and how these figures compared with those for persons charged with scheduled offences on the basis of evidence other than accomplice evidence.

    [pursuant to his reply, 28 January 1985, c. 71]: Information is not available in the form requested and could be obtained only at dispoportionate cost.

    Social Services

    Prescriptions

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the latest estimate of the number of prescription items per capita in the United States of America, Italy, West Germany, France, Spain, New Zealand, Australia and the United Kingdom.

    Although not official figures, recent commercial surveys suggest that the number of prescription items per capita in these countries is as follows:

    Number
    Italy11·3
    West Germany11·2
    France10·0
    Spain9·6
    New Zealand8·5
    Australia7·7
    United Kingdom6·6
    No reliable figures are available for the United States of America.This is a carefully selected list, as there are also developed countries with lower prescribing levels than the United Kingdom. These statistics are not very useful or relevant to current policy issues as prescribing figures for different countries can be influenced by many factors, in particular the vastly different eligibility rules and public subsidy arrngements within the various national health and insurance systems.In those countries with apparently higher prescribing levels than in the United Kingdom, their Governments are taking steps to reduce this expenditure.In the United Kingdom the medical profession itself accepts that current levels could be reduced and agreed some time ago to co-operate with the Government in encouraging more rational and economic prescribing.

    Whooping Cough Vaccine

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether any children whose death has been officially recorded as a cot death had been known to be in receipt of whooping cough vaccine 48 hours beforehand.

    Since 1964 there have been 13 yellow card reports of sudden infant deaths where combined diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis vaccine had been given during the previous 48 hours. The receipt of a report does not necessarily imply a causal relationship between the vaccination and the sudden infant death.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many High Court writs have been received by his Department served by, or on behalf of, those suffering brain damage as a result of whooping cough vaccine.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he intends amending the whooping cough advice pamphlet issued by the Health Education Council in the light of the recently published statistic that one in 20,411 vaccinated against the disease has suffered brain damage and not one in 100,000 as at present stated in the pamphlet.

    We have no plans to ask the Health Education Council to revise its leaflet. I would refer the hon. Member to my right hon. and learned Friend's reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Staffordshire, Moorlands (Mr. Knox) on 31 July 1984 at columns 243–44. We are not aware of data since then which invalidate that advice.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what progress has been made in discovering an alternative whooping cough vaccine for which the necessary research funds have been provided.

    Research on the development of an alternative whooping cough vaccine at the Centre for Applied Microbiology and Research, Porton Down, is making good progrees. Arrangements for the production of the vaccine for clinical trials are now under discussion as the next stage of development.

    Limited List Prescribing

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if, in the process of consultation preceding the drawing up of his final limited list, he will take account of those cases where a branded product is cheaper than its stated generic alternative.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make inquiries of the pharmaceutical companies and wholesale and retail pharmacies about possible stock losses associated with the introduction of a limited list.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what estimate has been made of the additional administrative costs of policing and monitoring the new limited list.

    Arrangements already exist to monitor general practitioners' prescribing and we do not expect oversight of the operation of the limited list to add significantly to the administrative costs.

    Contraception

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the cost to the National Health Service of birth control pills; and whether he has any plans to make all patients pay for them.

    The available information identifies only the estimated ingredient cost of oral contraceptives prescribed by general practitioners. In England in 1983 this was £15·6 million.We have no plans to make patients pay for family planning services.

    Vaccine Damage (Compensation)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many applications for financial compensation under the Vaccine Damage Payments Act 1979 were refused on the grounds that the person concerned was under 80 per cent. disabled.

    Up to 4 January 1985, the latest date for which figures are available, disablement was less than 80 per cent. in the following unsuccessful applications for a vaccine damage payment: 14 where the cause of such disablement was accepted as resulting from vaccination; 226 where the cause of such disablement was not accepted as resulting from vaccination; and 315 where the disablement was so substantially less than 80 per cent. that the cause was not investigated.

    Operating Theatres

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he is satisfied with the present staffing organisation of operating theatres in the light of the working of the Lewin report; if he is satisfied that there is a proper career structure for all of the non-medical professions involved in operating theatre work; and if he will make a statement.

    We are not aware of any general problems arising from either the organisation or staffing of operating theatres following the recommendations of the Lewin report which were commended to health authorities in 1972 after detailed consultation. One of the major concerns of the report was that there should be a proper career structure for the non-medical professions involved in this work. If my hon. Friend is concerned about the implementation of some particular recommendation perhaps he will write to me.

    Drug Misuse

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many applications he has now had for grants under the central fund initiative for drug misuse; how many grants have been made; and for how much money.

    Applications received to date total 194. Of these, 90 have been approved, with a total value of £6·7 million.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many people inside and outside the community service section of his Department have some responsibility for dealing with the problems of drug misuse; and what are their grades.

    A substantial number of administrative and professional staff at all levels have some responsibility for dealing with the problems of drug misuse as part of their wider responsibilities.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many people in the community service section of his Department are responsible for dealing solely with the problems of drug misuse; and what are their grades.

    The following staff in administrative grades of the community services division deal with the problems of drug misuse as the major part of their responsibilities. A wide variety of staff in other professional and administrative grades have some responsibility for the subject.

    Principles2
    HEOD1
    HEO3
    EO3
    CO2
    CA1

    Homeless Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the total number of individuals afforded temporary board and lodging in each of the 23 resettlement units in England, Scotland and Wales provided directly or indirectly by his Department during the most recent 12-month period for which figures are available; and, in the case of the Camberwell resettlement unit, what were the comparable figures for the three previous years.

    Figures are not collected in the form requested. The table shows the number of individuals admitted during the latest four-week period for which figures are available. It should be noted that an individual who used more than one unit during the four-week period was recorded as an individual in each unit visited. Comparative figures for Camberwell are available only for 1983. In the four-week period ending 22 November 1983, 751 individuals were accommodated at Camberwell.

    Resettlement UnitNumber of individuals accommodated during four-week period ending 20 November 1984
    Alvaston118
    Brighton110
    Crown Quay Lodge42
    Fazakerly121

    Resettlement Unit

    Number of individuals accommodated during four-week period ending 20 November 1984

    Glasgow132
    Leeds183
    Leicester169
    Newbury142
    Plawsworth138
    Southampton110
    South Wales78
    Walkden70
    West Midlands144
    Winterbourne121
    Wood House142

    London Units

    Bridge House147
    Camberwell568
    Camden87
    Cedars Lodge127
    Lancelot Andrewes House414
    Pound Lodge124
    Spur House205
    West End House453

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the total number of persons referred to the Camberwell resettlement unit during the two months ended 31 December 1984 and 31 March 1984, respectively, from each of the following sources: (a) local authority housing or social services departments (b) mental hospitals in the Greater London and Home Counties areas, (c) mental handicap hospitals in the Greater London and Home Counties areas, (d) general hospitals in the Greater London and Home Counties areas, (e) probation and aftercare offices and (f) supplementary benefit local offices.

    The information is not collected in the form requested, but the table may be of help.

    Source of referral to Camberwell Resettlement UnitIn the four weeks ending 18 December 1984In the four weeks ending 13 March 1984
    Hospitals310
    Local Authorities29
    Police/Probation Service614
    Voluntary Organisations68
    Other Resettlement Units17
    DHSS Local Offices2325
    Self Referrals1,8672,237
    TOTALS1,9082,310

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) how many women were in each reception centre or settlement unit on the latest available date; what their ages were; how long each had been in residence; and what was the number in each institute who fell within section 2 of the Housing (Homeless Persons) Act 1977;(2) how many of the 600 homeless single persons in reception centres on the night of 30 November 1984 falling within section 2 of the Housing (Homeless Persons) Act 1977 were women; and what were their ages and disabilities.

    I regret that figures for the night of 30 November 1984 are not available. However, on the night of 31 December 1984 Camden resettlement unit accommodated 35 women and Cedars Lodge resettlement unit, 17 women. Of the six women who would fall to be considered within section 2 of the Housing (Homeless Persons) Act 1977 by virtue of being over 60 years of age, all were resident at Camden. Information is not collected on how many women would fall to be considered within the other categories under section 2 of the Housing (Homeless Persons) Act 1977, nor is information held centrally on disabilities. The tables show the age range and lengths of stay of the 52 women in the two women's resettlement units on the night of 31 December 1984.

    1. Camden Resettlement Unit (35 women)
    Lengths of stay as at 31 December 1984
    AgeUnder 1 week1 to 13 weeks13 to 26 weeks26 to 52 weeksOver 1 year
    Under 20 years151
    20 to 29 years1521
    30 to 39 years13
    40 to 59 years2232
    60 to 64 years21
    65 years and over111
    2. Cedars Lodge Resettlement Unit (17 women)
    Lengths of stay as at 31 December 1984
    AgeUnder 1 week1 to 13 weeks13 to 26 weeks26 to 52 weeksOver 1 year
    Under 20 years
    20 to 29 years121
    30 to 39 years11
    40 to 59 years362
    60 to 64 years
    65 years and over

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the total cost, in the last year for which figures are available, of meeting the rent of those homeless single people staying in private hostels, lodging homes, hotels, and so on; what was the number of individuals so housed; if there is a list of approved private hostels, lodging houses and similar establishments; and if he will make a statement.

    I regret that separate records are not kept in respect of people who enter board and lodging accommodation because they are homeless. The estimated expenditure on total supplementary benefit payments to all claimants in ordinary board and lodging accommodation, excluding residential care and nursing homes, in 1983 was £270 million. This figure is provisional and is based on caseload and average benefit payments at December 1983.There is no central list of approved board and lodging establishments, but individual local authorities maintain their own records.

    Source: Annual Statistical Inquiry.

    Fuel Direct Scheme

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what representations he has received from the citizens' advice bureaux regarding problems with the fuel direct scheme; and if he will make a statement.

    In November 1983 the National Association of Citizens Advice Bureaux sent copies of its report "Poverty and Paying for Fuel: the CAB Experience" to my right hon. Friends the Secretaries of State for Energy and for Social Services, following which further representations were sent to my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Energy in December 1984. Also in December 1984 the Greater London Citizens Advice Bureaux Service sent copies of its report "Cold Comfort for the Poor" to my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Energy, as well as to my hon. Friend the Minister for Social Security and to myself. I refer the hon. Member to my reply to the hon. Member for Warrington, North (Mr. Hoyle) on 30 January, at column 228, concerning the administration of the fuel direct scheme.

    Kidney Failure And Infertility

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the expenditure in the most recent year for which records are available on (a) treatment of kidney failure and (b) treatment of infertility.

    Benefits

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, pursuant to his reply of 19 December 1984, Official Report, column 219, if he will place in the Library copies of any recent evidence of the reasons for increases in the number of supplementary benefit claimants living in board and lodging accommodation.

    I refer the hon. Member to our consultative document, "Supplementary Benefit Board and Lodging Payments", containing the proposals which we have referred to the Social Security Advisory Committee, copies of which are in the Vote Office.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) how many people of working age claimed supplementary benefit for 12 months and more in (a) the United Kingdom, (b) the West Midlands and (c) the Walsall borough area in May 1979; and if he will give the latest figures for the three groups and the percentage difference in each case;(2) how many people aged 45 years and over received supplementary benefit for 12 months and more in

    (a) the United Kingdom, (b) the West Midlands and (c) the Walsall borough area in 1979; and if he will give the latest figures for the three groups and the percentage difference in each case.

    The information requested is not immediately available. I shall let the hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many people of working age claimed supplementary benefit in (a) the United Kingdom, (b) the West Midlands area and (c) the Walsall borough area in May 1979; and if he will give the latest figures for the three groups and the percentage difference in each case.

    The information is as follows:

    (thousands)
    May 1979July 1984Percentage increase
    United Kingdom1,3553,400151
    Midlands area*204560175
    Local Offices situated in Walsall6·520·6222
    Source: 100 per cent. count of cases in action at local offices.
    * Figures are for whole midlands area, since the West Midland social security region no longer exists.

    Accident And Emergency Departments

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what temporary closures of accident and emergency departments have occurred in the north-west in the last year, naming each hospital and the period of closure in each case; how this compares with each of the previous five years; and how it compares with national experience in this respect in each of these years.

    National Health Service

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether, when replying to parliamentary questions about the National Health Service by suggesting that right hon. and hon. Members contact a health authority directly, he will make it his practice at the same time to ask the chairman of the health authority concerned to reply to such inquiries within a maximum of one week.

    We take every opportunity to impress on health authority chairmen the need to deal speedily and thoroughly with all inquiries from right hon. and hon. Members. We know that they take this duty very seriously. Since there is reason to believe that some hon. Members decide not to make the contacts we suggest, it would not make sense to impose a uniform process and timetable on all chairmen in relation to all replies suggesting direct contact.

    Heating Allowances

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the average heating payment for severe weather on the last occasion such payments were made; how many so far have applied in 1985 for this payment; and what steps have been taken to publicise the matter in the areas where such applications can be made.

    The last occasion in which single payments were made towards heating costs in a period of exceptionally severe weather was in 1982, when the average payment was about £13. Information is not available centrally to estimate how many people have claimed payments so far this year. In areas in which the Chief Adjudication Officer has decided to advise local adjudication officers that the "exceptionally severe weather" condition in the regulations has been satisfied, local social security offices have instructions to display posters and provide leaflets explaining how and when to claim. Local authority social services departments and housing benefit offices, advice bureaux and public libraries have been asked to display posters and leaflets. The Department has also briefed the local media in the areas concerned.

    Hospitals (Admissions)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many persons, and in particular babies and elderly people, have been refused admission to hospital for essential care in each of the last five years; how many have died as a result; and if he will give details by area, the condition of patients requiring treatment, the reasons for refusal of admission, and any other relevant circumstance.

    Such information is not collected centrally. I understand that, as far as Greater London is concerned, some of the information for which the hon. Member is asking is contained in a report about the emergency bed service which has been prepared for the South-East Thames regional health authority which manages that service. The hon. Member may like to contact the authority to obtain further information.

    Premature Births

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many premature babies have been born each year in the last five years; how many received specialist care in hospital; how many after birth were turned away from specialist care each year; of those turned away, how many subsequently died or developed handicaps; and if he will name the hospitals concerned in each case.

    Full details of the number of premature babies are not collected centrally, but the numbers of low birthweight (2,500 grams or less) live-born babies in England in the five years ending 1983 are shown in the table. These will include the majority of premature live births, but will also include some full-term low birthweight babies. The information available to us does not distinguish accurately between premature and other babies who received specialist care in hospital. The remaining information requested is not available centrally.

    Low Birthweight Babies, Live Born, England
    Year000's
    197940·7
    198042·5
    198140·8
    198240·4
    198340·2

    Unemployment Benefit

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will amend regulation 19 of the Social Security Act 1975, together with any other relevant legislation, so as to provide that workers who take seasonal jobs do not lose their entitlement to unemployment benefit after three successive years of such employment.

    I assume the hon. Member is referring to regulation 19 of the Social Security (Unemployment Sickness and Invalidity Benefit) Regulations 1975 as amended. I refer the hon. Member to my reply to him on 29 January at column 162.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many persons in Wales were debarred, during 1984, from receiving unemployment insurance benefit; and how this compares with figures for each of the five preceding years.

    Benefit Claimants

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will give details of the nature of the material relating to claimants obtained by local officers of his Department from police criminal records and the vehicle licensing office; and what are the reasons for the compilation and retention of such records by his Department.

    Local officers do not obtain information about claimants to benefit from police criminal records, and I refer the hon. Member to my reply to him on 28 January at column 65. On occasions, during an investigation into suspected benefit fraud it may be necessary for details of the keepership of a vehicle to be obtained from the vehicle licensing centre.

    Benefit Fraud

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what are the arrangements for liaison between local offices of his Department and the police in relation to claimants suspected of fraud; and if he will initiate discussions to ensure that no unnecessary material is retained by his Department.

    The majority of suspected benefit fraud cases are investigated by local office staff without police assistance. There will be occasions, however, depending on the nature of the fraud, when it will be necessary for an investigating officer to seek the help of the police. There is no regular system for such liaison and no unnecessary material is obtained.

    Nhs (General Managers)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list all the general manager posts at regional, district and unit level for which he has vetted applicants, and also posts on family practitioner committees, indicating in each case those posts where he declined to approve the person initially chosen.

    Our guidance circular requires health authorities to allow Ministers the opportunity to express their views on all proposals for regional and district general manager appointments before formal decisions are taken. No unit general manager appointments have yet been made, but they are primarily the responsibility of the regional health authorities. Information on individual candidates is, and should remain, confidential.There have been no such appointments for the family practitioner committees.

    Long-Stay Patients (Dental Examinations)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, pursuant to the answer on 14 January, Official Report, column 69, about dental examination for patients in long-stay hospitals, in what form the departmental guidance has been published; and to whom it has been sent.

    The departmental guidance on the hopsital dental service was issued as a health memorandum, HM(67)61, originally to regional hospital boards, hospital management committees, and boards of governors, the responsible health authorities at that time. A copy of the memorandum is in the Library.

    West Midlands Regional Health Authority

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many members of the West Midlands regional health authority will sit on the steering committee which will guide the review by outside consultants of the functions and working of the regional health authority.

    Hypothermia

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many persons have died of hypothermia, or where extreme cold was a factor associated with death, in each week since the start of winter; and how these figures compare with the same period in the previous five years.

    Ophthalmic Services

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the cost saving to the National Health Service if the full assessed charge is payable by patients who require lenses over six dioptres cylindrical power, or over 10 dioptres spherical and over four dioptres cylindrical power, or lenticular.

    [pursuant to his reply, 28 January 1985, c. 63]: The cost saving to the NHS if the full assessed charge were to be paid by all patients who require such lenses has been estimated as £1·75 million. However, a large proportion of these patients would qualify for full or partial remission of charges on income grounds so the actual savings are likely to be very much less.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) how many spectacles, on an annual basis, are prescribed in the categories: with one or more lens over six dioptres cylindrical power, over 10 dioptres spherical and over four dioptres cylindrical power, or lenticular,(2) what percentage of the total number of annual prescriptions is represented by the categories defined as complex in amended regulations proposed by the Government;(3) how many cases involving complex lenses, as defined in the Government's planned amendments to the general ophthalmic service, are dealt with

    (a) by the hospital eye service and (b) the general ophthalmic service, on an annual basis.

    [pursuant to his reply, 28 January 1985, c. 63]: The total number of prescriptions issued for complex lenses is not available and the number dealt with by hospital eye services is not available centrally.The latest available figures — 1983 — indicate that some 50,000 pairs of spectacles containing complex lenses as defined in the proposed regulations were dispensed annually in Great Britain under the general ophthalmic services. The estimated number dispensed within the proposed prescription categories is as follows:

    over 6 dioptres cylindrical power4,000
    over 10 dioptres spherical and over 4 dioptres cylindrical power
    5,000
    in lenticular form41,000
    50,000 pairs of spectacles represent 1 per cent. of the total number of annual prescriptions dispensed under the general ophthalmic services.

    Abortion

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many abortions were performed on residents and non-residents at up to 12 weeks gestation, 13 to 20 weeks gestation, 20 to 23 weeks gestation and 24 weeks and over for each year since 1968; on what grounds

    Number of legal abortions by gestation: residents and non-residents, statutory grounds, age of women and category of premises, 1968–1983
    England and Wales
    YearGestation (weeks)
    AllUnder 1313–1920–2324 and over
    ResidentsNon-residentsResidentsNon-residentsResidentsNon-residentsResidentsNon-residentsResidentsNon-residents
    1968(27 April-31 December 1968)
    Total22,3321,30913,5038217,584416572481274
    Statutory grounds
    11,14621
    215,928972
    39498
    49051
    5151
    6441
    2 with 439923
    3 with others2,946282
    Age of women
    15 and under54310292216248
    16–193,2851901,9461,31212527
    20–246,1054484,1172,09718428
    25–293,9892932,6221,41211316
    30–343,4831752,2781,1996822
    35–392,8681141,8131,0355222
    40–441,318547835053810
    45 and over1503935231
    Not stated59122380172132
    NHS14,49268
    Other7,8401,241
    1969Total49,8294,99032,1963,05215,6291,62699822817421
    Statutory grounds
    11,84299
    235,9693,896
    32,28113
    41,10711
    514
    631
    2 with 474286
    3 with others7,843885
    Age of women
    15 and under1,17457700441538
    16–198,0598765,3143,19827135
    20–2412,9141,6799,5304,45736847
    25–299,0019376,5892,95918335
    30–347,9816605,6932,63212231
    35–396,3734594,5482,06110818
    40–442,8752031,9341,0037313
    45 and over27620156112165
    Not stated1,17699784392323
    NHS33,562166
    Other16,2674,824
    1970Total75,96210,60352,4957,56520,2042,64879612615714
    Statutory grounds
    12,163172
    257,0219,115
    33,48638
    41,22523
    510
    6351

    these were performed; what ages the women were; and how many were performed in the National Health Service and how many were performed in other approved places, respectively.

    [pursuant to his reply, 28 January 1985, c. 61]: The available information is shown in the tables.

    Number of legal abortions by gestation: residents and non-residents, statutory grounds, age of women and category of premises, 1968–1983

    England and Wales

    Year

    Gestation (weeks)

    All

    Under 13

    13–19

    20–23

    24 and over

    Residents

    Non-residents

    Residents

    Non-residents

    Residents

    Non-residents

    Residents

    Non-residents

    Residents

    Non-residents

    2 with 482383
    3 with others11,1991,171
    Age of women
    15 and under1,732901,08861543341
    16–1913,5181,69010,1024,55017435243
    20–2419,8383,35616,3935,92620541315
    25–2913,7512,12011,1024,10313122331
    30–3411,9011,6199,5883,357969271
    35–399,1411,0667,2562,516699193
    40–444,1074373,1011,20658415
    45 and over3944629613071
    Not stated1,5801791,1344491333
    NHS47,370308686141373
    Other28,59210,2951101122011
    1971Total94,57032,20770,44724,93120,5836,58073328811425
    Statutory grounds
    11,8826571,323444289
    271,44325,39453,92515,09152072
    34,140802,8791,060227
    41,32748810428265
    5103133
    6102811
    2 with 4910198610238212
    3 with others14,8485,82810,8893,32011216
    Age of women
    15 and under2,2963221,66182639142
    16–1918,1764,69615,9946,15616877205
    20–2424,4659,78225,7207,50519184317
    25–2917,2926,36118,2184,65312541184
    30–3414,2035,37815,3643,5848127213
    35–3911,0233,61611,5622,6016325103
    40–444,8691,4304,7801,29143139
    45 and over4511404151458311
    Not stated1,7954821,66440215422
    NHS53,45525136,82414,01958119922
    Other41,11531,95633,6236,5641522692223
    1972Total108,56551,31984,47241,23420,7949,24270932713733
    Statutory grounds
    11,7112,1691,284350208
    282,98837,68064,63915,917542100
    34,1711923,190840217
    41,12648757295332
    5101313
    6141741
    2 with 488728164620014
    3 with others17,65810,94813,9483,1857816
    Age of women
    15 and under2,8045161,898346774153431093
    16–1921,7867,26415,8275,1585,3381,96220685269
    20–2426,90815,60420,81012,1645,3393,201171111357
    25–2920,79610,36716,6218,5083,5251,69612052254
    30–3416,0768,40213,1437,2282,4611,0397232194
    35–3912,2425,91710,0355,1171,8797244816134
    40–445,5902,4264,4002,0761,020312321461
    45 and over4742213451761133943
    Not stated1,8896021,39346134511613441
    NHS56,86122542,59711,94448497
    Other51,70451,09441,8758,85022540
    1973Total110,56856,58188,22443,07818,51312,02883361114259
    Statutory grounds

    Number of legal abortions by gestation: residents and non-residents, statutory grounds, age of women and category of premises, 1968–1983

    England and Wales

    Year

    Gestation (weeks)

    All

    Under 13

    13–19

    20–23

    24 and over

    Residents

    Non-residents

    Residents

    Non-residents

    Residents

    Non-residents

    Residents

    Non-residents

    Residents

    Non-residents

    11,2284,0439402102210
    284,89041,15667,60214,416631100
    33,5201522,732652191
    41,11576735300318
    572131
    6102721
    2 with 4904315675183184
    3 with others18,89410,83715,5312,74910917
    Age of women
    15 and under3,0905702,0683298122096717124
    16–1923,4808,35817,5115,4965,2232,5982481422515
    20–2426,72817,48121,12812,8454,7354,1851912274318
    25–2921,36511,75617,4839,2383,1252,242137943312
    30–3415,9818,64213,5277,1311,9661,2858370154
    35–3912,1616,22110,2955,1811,485926482941
    40–445,4452,6344,4842,180781395322085
    45 and over5252114071598844103
    Not stated1,7937081,3215192981441792
    NHS55,45618142,30510,63748791
    Other55,11256,40045,9197,87634651
    1974Total109,44553,49587,96338,83417,36112,58377573412871
    Statutory grounds
    1 (with other)1,0613,0958301602010
    288,13042,99670,80914,03161889
    3 (with other except 1)18,5597,14315,1362,7899115
    4 (with 2)1,6862611,1833814413
    5 and 69521
    Age of women
    15 and under3,3356132,2983278482276532104
    16–1924,1978,91718,1405,4425,1753,0692391993220
    20–2426,56116,64721,13911,7144,4404,2791922363420
    25–2920,91310,94317,3218,3002,8132,2311321242315
    30–3415,4907,60613,2046,1061,7731,2685866117
    35–3911,6465,4799,9674,4641,28886139376
    40–445,1492,4244,2551,883700449282463
    45 and over5022013931547638833
    Not stated1,6526651,246444248161141332
    NHS56,07624443,05310,33046693
    Other53,36953,25144,9107,03130935
    1975Total106,22433,47884,64323,30116,8148,45384777812453
    Statutory grounds
    1 (with other)1,0681,5657921811510
    287,36828,85869,55613,96569187
    3 (with other except 1)16,2082,89013,2702,2787713
    4 (with 2)1,5721651,0233886213
    5 and 682221
    Age of women
    15 and under3,5704362,436183889200634051
    16–1924,1226,06517,7913,3965,2652,2612892242618
    20–2425,06510,90019,7947,4924,2202,8471982653213
    25–2920,2597,15816,6355,3582,7311,5061221092810
    30–3415,0474,31412,7823,3601,6627775567155
    35–3910,9332,9189,4022,3201,088479504071
    40–444,9051,1204,103819582249392051
    45 and over47110235268922211531
    Not stated1,8524651,34830528511220833
    NHS50,94120638,6809,37839675
    Other55,28333,27245,9637,43645149
    1976Total101,91227,76182,10518,38315,2727,67581190416454
    Statutory grounds

    Number of legal abortions by gestation: residents and non-residents, statutory grounds, age of women and category of premises, 1968–1983

    England and Wales

    Year

    Gestation (weeks)

    All

    Under 13

    13–19

    20–23

    24 and over

    Residents

    Non-residents

    Residents

    Non-residents

    Residents

    Non-residents

    Residents

    Non-residents

    Residents

    Non-residents

    1 (with other)949730155147
    285,03168,32912,987679119
    3 (with other except 1)14,60612,1541,8565511
    4 (with 2)1,3168862726127
    5 and 610622
    Age of women
    15 and under3,4254102,355162845195704092
    16–1923,9634,95417,9482,5304,9721,9902652764315
    20–2423,6129,00918,6495,8183,8842,6352153093518
    25–2919,3236,19616,0944,4982,4241,3871241433211
    30–3414,5893,57312,5992,7101,4227054961164
    35–3910,2162,2598,8811,7049324524139133
    40–444,5208893,848626460216292310
    45 and over48377371479020341
    Not stated1,7863941,3602882437515951
    NHS50,56939,1608,57735892
    Other51,34342,9456,69545372
    1977Total102,67730,32782,73119,94815,1998,30791298018393
    Statutory grounds
    1 (with other)84065812896
    285,51868,91812,837698132
    3 (with other except 1)14,83412,2061,9318921
    4 (with 2)1,47494330211623
    5 and 6116121
    Age of women
    15 and under3,6244432,4441659372017059104
    16–1924,5925,17418,4192,6155,0482,0442872934429
    20–2424,02610,01219,0786,4303,8322,9172263265629
    25–2918,2706,72115,1864,7902,3011,5531431382816
    30–3415,1904,14613,1153,1421,4337797884198
    35–3910,1532,3908,8411,7969045014038122
    40–444,6389933,957707471218372861
    45 and over52910242271602311362
    Not stated1,6553461,26923221371201122
    NHS52,33041,0078,71841297
    Other50,14741,7246,48150086
    1978Total111,85129,70789,71219,93616,7277,7651,2491,01326198
    Statutory grounds
    1 (with other)67950512697
    292,94974,70614,042891180
    3 (with other except 1)15,85513,0981,98612628
    4 (with 2)2,3561,40057122043
    5 and 6123233
    Age of women
    15 and under3,2984262,2951367662247346204
    16–1926,3634,62119,5582,3705,5041,8053902867327
    20–2426,6939,90321,0416,4914,3752,7303243366732
    25–2919,8126,51016,2974,7142,5251,4421991543818
    30–3417,2854,32214,8773,3081,71683010290296
    35–3911,1532,4749,7261,8919704306848204
    40–444,9189724,136710551190613284
    45 and over49212838275793812121
    Not stated1,8373511,4002412417620962
    NHS55,04042,6909,169571134
    Other56,81147,0227,558678127
    1979Total120,61129,13596,01619,93318,6227,3131,486967281157
    Statutory grounds
    1 (with other)59245187119
    2102,10081,43715,8751,153204
    3 (with other except 1)15,75512,8572,14210320

    Number of legal abortions by gestation: residents and non-residents, statutory grounds, age of women and category of premises, 1968–1983

    England and Wales

    Year

    Gestation (weeks)

    All

    Under 13

    13–19

    20–23

    24 and over

    Residents

    Non-residents

    Residents

    Non-residents

    Residents

    Non-residents

    Residents

    Non-residents

    Residents

    Non-residents

    4 (with 2)2,1511,26951221844
    5 and 6132614
    Age of women
    15 and under3,5343222,4011168661408945116
    16–1929,1924,78221,3272,5746,2741,7415172889145
    20–2429,6479,70323,1216,4155,0212,6554093348960
    25–2920,6556,27517,0064,5722,7291,3561981553725
    30–3418,3484,27615,7763,3551,805725128861911
    35–3912,0122,40610,4351,9091,0884086731215
    40–444,9658824,196667527167571874
    45 and over51987406547623963
    Not stated1,7394021,3482712369812431
    NHS55,55842,9399,481535120
    Other65,05353,0779,141951161
    1980Total128,92731,976102,36721,08520,1068,5791,8531,187381232
    Statutory grounds
    1 (with other)6802252810785
    2110,29430,19787,73117,3231,444280
    3 (with 2)16,0461,61813,0722,22413730
    4 (with 2 and/or 3)1,9001391,03545226362
    5 and 67114
    Age of women
    15 and under3,6504932,453162898222116622720
    16–1931,8785,24222,9912,5757,1272,07367137012078
    20–2433,01410,66225,8136,9215,5232,98547740910871
    25–2922,0426,97818,0834,9482,8541,6182711856130
    30–3419,4194,57516,7443,4401,900894138913423
    35–3912,7302,78111,0882,1481,1305119736202
    40–445,3071,0284,492754546217682695
    45 and over54713644485833510813
    Not stated3408125952452451
    NHS60,59422446,89710,237704159
    Other68,33331,75255,4709,8691,149222
    1981Total128,58133,899108,47223,68817,3798,2581,4801,621235183
    Statutory grounds
    1 (with other)752386151101115
    2108,10031,15091,35814,5911,1291,589164175
    3 (with or without 2)17,8972,51515,4352,2388426147
    4 (with any except 1)1,8181961,0594342535521
    5 and 614563
    Age of women
    15 and under3,5314182,58914479018710176189
    16–1931,3935,23024,5702,6755,9391,9815324818767
    20–2434,27011,13028,7077,6164,8532,8424065735952
    25–2921,9187,49119,1185,7072,4481,4921692352326
    30–3418,7185,24616,7954,1311,6419341211372117
    35–3912,7973,04711,5512,4331,0415328262137
    40–444,8351,0764,204798524231554193
    45 and over564148466978234101522
    Not stated555113472876125413
    NHS61,10317351,5918,19151777
    Other67,47833,72656,8819,1889631,621158183
    1982Total128,55334,492110,14824,06316,6388,4271,4901,726198264
    Statutory grounds
    1 (with other)65519530133102
    2110,21632,37094,81114,0731,1191,675149259
    3 (with or without 2)15,6651,86113,6951,880753632
    4 (with any except 1)2,0062411,10857028415412
    5 or 611142231

    Number of legal abortions by gestation: residents and non-residents, statutory grounds, age of women and category of premises, 1968–1983

    England and Wales

    Year

    Gestation (weeks)

    All

    Under 13

    13–19

    20–23

    24 and over

    Residents

    Non-residents

    Residents

    Non-residents

    Residents

    Non-residents

    Residents

    Non-residents

    Residents

    Non-residents

    Age of women
    15 and under3,8524912,909168821209108991215
    16–1931,34953424,8482,7065,8891,9975325497691
    20–2435,02410,85329,8487,4344,6872,7864125475682
    25–2922,1547,60219,7975,6912,1561,6111702582040
    30–3417,5935,32815,9764,2161,491945971471519
    35–3913,2023,50412,0332,8381,03858610770118
    40–444,5791,1744,061883453246563757
    45 and over52214844596663781431
    Not stated27847231313710951
    NHS62,40912354,4897,32648454
    Other66,14434,36955,6599,3121,0061,726144264
    1983Total127,37534,786108,86124,41416,6718,2401,5101,850238267
    Statutory grounds

    20 and over

    1 (with other)538114575621
    2108,80632,75893,23814,1901,305
    3 (with or without 2)16,0071,79414,1221,78686
    4 (with any except 1)2,0192221,042637335
    5 or 651221
    Age of women
    15 and under4,0874793,05415191121610931918
    16–1931,2315,28124,8102,7595,7881,8745365598386
    20–2435,01410,84429,6957,3394,8062,8044236176480
    25–2922,1577,66119,6215,7912,3021,5391792894142
    30–3416,9035,38215,4124,2801,3549331071421625
    35–3913,0713,72911,9353,0271,009594989599
    40–444,3831,2773,874984446243554346
    45 and over443120386774430101221
    Not stated86137461171
    NHS62,60920854,5857,43245876
    Other64,76634,57854,2769,2391,052162

    Footnotes to tables

    A. Statutory grounds as listed in Schedule 2 of the Abortion Regulations 1968:

    1. Risk to life of woman.

    2. Risk of injury to physical or mental health of woman.

    2. Risk of injury to physical or mental health of existing child(ren).

    4. Substantial risk of child being born abnormal.

    5. In emergency—to save life of woman.

    6. In emergency—to prevent grave permanent injury to physical or mental health of woman.

    B. From 1968 to 1980 gestation is calculated as the number of completed weeks between last menstral period and date of operation. In March 1981 a new notification form was introduced which seeks a direct statement of gestation and the basis on which it is derived.

    C. Not stated gestation is included in All gestation.

    D. Abortions to non-residents are assumed to have been performed in approved places.

    Dash in table indicate "not available".

    The Arts

    South Bank Board

    asked the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State answering in respect of the Arts when he expects the Arts Council to announce the composition of the South Bank board.

    The date of any announcement will depend on the progress of the necessary legislation through Parliament.

    National Finance

    Income Tax

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many people presently pay no income tax; and how many of these are (i) employed, (ii) unemployed and (iii) self-employed.

    It is estimated that, in 1984–85, about 10 million married couples or single people aged 16 or over will not be liable to income tax. Of these, about 1¼ million will have spent the major part of the financial year in employment, 400,000 in self-employment and 1 million in unemployment. The remainder are retired or otherwise not economically active.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the reduction of the number of persons paying income tax if the income tax revenue was reduced by £1 billion, £2 billion, £3 billion, £4 billion, £5 billion, £7·5 billion and £10 billion, respectively, estimated as a result of raising tax thresholds.

    Over the stated range of costs of direct revenue changes above indexation, each £1 billion reduction in the yield of income tax in a full year at 1985–86 levels of income would lead to a reduction of about 450,000 in the number of taxpayers. This assumes that uniform percentage increases are applied to the main personal allowances (including age allowance) and counts earning wives separately from their husbands.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what currently would be the loss of revenue resulting from a reduction in the higher rates of income tax to a maximum of 50 and 40 per cent. respectively.

    The latest estimates are as follows:

    Maximum rate of income tax per cent.Direct revenue cost in a full year at 1985–86 levels of income
    £ million
    50320
    40970
    These estimates are in relation to the yield assuming indexation of 1984–85 allowances and thresholds by 4·6 per cent. under the rules set out in the Finance Act 1980. It is also assumed that the thresholds for each remaining tax rate would remain at their indexed levels.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) if he will estimate for each financial year since 1979–80, the costs of raising (a) the tax threshold and (b) the tax bands above the rate of inflation;(2) if he will estimate the loss to the Exchequer in each year since 1979–80 resulting from the abolition of the higher rate bands for income tax;(3) if he will estimate the costs to the Exchequer each year since 1979–80 of the reduction in the basic rate of taxation from 33 per cent. to 30 per cent.

    Economic Competitiveness

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his Department's estimate of the correlation between changes in the international competitiveness of the United Kingdom economy and changes in the pound sterling exchange rate.

    The relationship between international price and cost competitiveness and the nominal exchange rate is complex, difficult to quantify reliably, and in the shorter term often highly erratic. However a Treasury working paper "Her Majesty's Treasury Macroeconomic Model: Supplement to the 1982 Technical Manual" (a copy of which is in the House of Common's Library) describes a model simulation of the effects of hypothetical changes in sterling's exchange rate index on wage cost competitiveness, and may be of interest to the hon. Member.

    Friendly Societies

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will estimate the number of friendly societies that have closed as a result of the changes in tax exemption limits contained in the Finance Act 1984.

    The long-term decline in the number of friendly societies and number of branches continued in 1984. It is not possible to distinguish any effect of the tax and related statutory changes in 1984, which were favourable for some societies and adverse for others. None of the societies which went out of existence in 1984 told the Registry of Friendly Societies that the tax changes were the reason for it.

    Value Added Tax

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish a table showing at current prices for each year since 1980–81 (a) total revenue and total estimated revenue from value added tax and (b) total expenditure and total estimated expenditure on wages, salaries and pensions in the public sector.

    The following table shows receipts and expenditure by general Government (central Government and local authorities).

    Total*receiptsof which VATTotal*expenditureof which wages, salaries and pensions
    £ billion£ billion£ billion£ billion
    1980–8195·110·1108·431·6
    1981–82111·713·1120·234·9
    1982–83121·714·7132·537·4
    1983–84128·816·4139·940·1
    *Source: Section 2, Financial Statistics, National Accounts basis.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the number of submissions that have been received by Her Majesty's Customs and Excise on the draft legislation for the collection of value added tax; and what proportion of those comments are in favour of the draft proposals.

    As at 28 January, 101 submissions had been received. As might be expected with a wide-ranging set of proposals, it is impossible to categorise the submissions simply as being in favour or not in favour of the proposals. Only 24 submissions deal with the proposals as a whole. These comprehensive submissions indicate a general acceptance of most of the proposals, but, together with a number of other submissions which have concentrated on a limited number of the proposals, have expressed some reservations or criticisms including certain points of principle in relation to particular clauses. All views expressed in response to the consultative document will be very carefully considered before final decisions are taken on the contents of the 1985 Finance Bill.

    Earnings And Taxation

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish a table showing the percentage of earnings absorbed by income tax and employees' social security contributions at different levels of earnings in the United Kingdom, France, Germany, and the United States of America and Japan, respectively, using the most recently available figures, and in the manner of his Answer to the hon. Member for Norfolk, North on 15 February, Official Report, columns 198–200.

    Percentage of earnings absorbed by income tax and social security contributions
    Earnings per annum£3,000£5,000£9,000£12,000£16,000£20,000£30,000£50,000
    Single Person
    United Kingdom19273234343438·546
    France1315232629313541
    Germany2328343939424650
    United States of America7 (7)11(12)16(17)18(20)20(23)24(28)28(34)31(40)
    Japan10(10)13(14)15(17)16(19)17(21)17(23)19(26)24(33)
    Married couple
    United Kingdom920283131323744·5
    France1314171920232732
    Germany1723283028303441
    United States of America7 (7)7 (7)12(12)14(15)16(17)18(20)22(25)27(33)
    Japan10(10)10(11)13(15)14(17)16(19)16(21)18(25)19(26)
    Married couple with two dependent children
    United Kingdom06212527283443
    France0291113152127
    Germany111212623263139
    United States of America7 (7)7 (7)10(10)12(12)14(15)16(18)21(23)26(31)
    Japan10(10)10(10)10(11)12(13)14(16)14(18)16(22)21(30)

    Notes

    1. The figures shown relate to income of 1984 (1984–85 in the case of the United Kingdom).

    2. Conversions were made at the exchange rates prevailing on 23 January 1985. They may not fully reflect differences in purchasing power between sterling and the other currencies.

    3. In addition to personal allowances, the tables take into account employment income reliefs and other standard reliefs (including income tax relief for social security contributions given in certain of the countries).

    4. The income of the married couple is assumed to be wholly income of the husband.

    5. The percentages given for a married couple with two dependent children reflect the tax and social security contributions due less any child benefit payable in respect of the children.

    6. It is assumed that the United Kingdom employee is contracted-in to the state pension scheme.

    7. The figures in brackets for the United States of America and Japan include local income taxes at typical rates.

    Inland Revenue (Forms P11d)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many completed P11D forms have been submitted to the Inland Revenue for each of the last five years.

    Estimates are as follows:

    Thousands
    1979–80500
    1980–81850
    1981–821,100
    1982–831,350
    1983–841,600

    Public Sector Staff

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) how many people were working in the National Health Service, local government, the Civil Service and nationalised industries in 1984; what was the total public expenditure on these services for the year; and if he will publish these numbers and costs both as a total and broken down between the four sectors mentioned;(2) what is

    (a) the total number of civil servants employed in the United Kingdom in central Government Departments, and staff employed in local government in 1984, (b) the percentage of total population and total work force these figures represent, (c) the value of the total salaries paid to these two groups for the year and (d) the percentage of gross domestic product these salaries

    The information requested, for selected levels of employment income and family responsibilities, is as follows:represent; and if he will give any information he may have as to equivalent figures in France, West Germany, the United States of America and Japan.

    Numbers employed (thousands) in the public sector at mid-1984 were as follows:

    Number
    Central Government:
    HM Forces326
    NHS1,242
    Civil Service (Great Britain)630
    Other132
    Local authorities2,884
    Public corporations:
    Nationalised industries1,416
    Other195
    Total6,825
    Figures of population, working population, and gross domestic product are published in the

    Monthly Digest of Statistics. Public expenditure figures for 1984–85 are published in detail in Cmnd. 9428— "The Government's Expenditure Plans 1985–86 to 1987–88". Estimates of the 1984–85 salary bill for the Civil Service was published in the 1983–84 memorandum by the Chief Secretary to the Treasury on he Estimates. These documents are all available in House of Commons Library.

    The qualifications attached to the use of employment data was explained in a written answer to the hon. Member for Norfolk, North (Mr. Howell) on 13 February 1984, at columns 64–66. That answer also indicated the difficulties in making international comparisons.

    Labour Statistics

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many people were in work in 1955 and in each succeeding fifth year to date; and if he will make a statement.

    Figures for the employed labour force in the years requested are shown on page 99 of Economic Trends, Annual Supplement 1985.

    Ec (Budget Contributions)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the total net payment by the United Kingdom to the European Economic Community in 1984; and what is the expected figure in 1985.

    The Government's latest estimate of the United Kingdom's net payments to the European Community institutions in the financial years 1984–85 and 1985–86 were recently published in the public expenditure White Paper, Cmnd, 9428. The calendar year is not an accounting period for purposes of United Kingdom expenditure and annual figures for United Kingdom payments by calendar year are available, only in arrears. Figures for 1984 will be available in due course when the December financial returns have been finalised.

    Capital Transfer Tax

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the cost to the Exchequer since 1980–81 of the alteration in the rates of capital transfer tax.

    I shall let the hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.

    Percentage Shares by sector of the European Communities Budgets 1973–1984
    197319741975197619771978197919801981198219831984
    per cent.per cent.per cent.per cent.per cent.per cent.per cent.per cent.per cent.per cent.per cent.per cent.
    Agriculture817373737674747668646970
    Regional development24444491375
    Social Fund666525434575
    Transport, energy, science and technology, industry, research and investment122222222233
    Other (including Administration, Aid, Own Resources refunds)121917161615161517161417
    Source; Figures for 1973 to 1983 derived from the Court of Auditors report.

    Investment Income Surcharge

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish in the Official Report his latest estimate of the costs to the Exchequer of the abolition of the investment income surcharge in 1984–85 and 1985–86.

    "Official Report"

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what further progress has been made in the printing of the bound volumes of the Official Report for the year 1984; and when it is anticipated that these volumes will be brought up to date.

    Volume 52 of the Official Report covering the period from 16 to 27 January 1984 was published on 21 December 1984. Volume 43, the 1982–83 Sessional Index, is expected to be published during the week of 4 February. Volume 53 is now with the binders and Volumes 54 to 56 are in the final stages of production.It is hoped that the backlog will be substantially reduced, if not eradicated, by the end of the next summer recess, and I am advised that the House authorities expect a regular production cycle of five months to be achieved by the end of 1985.

    Ec (Expenditure)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will list the proportion of the European Economic Community budget devoted to (a) agriculture, (b) regional development, (c) transport, (d) social fund, (e) energy, (f) science and technology, (g) industry and (h) research and investment for each year since 1972.

    [pursuant to his reply, 29 January 1985, c. 160] Information for 1972 and the breakdown between transport, energy, science and technology, industry and research and investment are not readily available. The following table shows the percentage share for the major sectors of the Community's budgets between 1973 and 1984.