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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday 30 April 1985

Attorney-General

"Mi5's Official Secrets"

asked the Attorney-General whether he has received the report of the investigation into the allegations of criminal offences that were made in the television film, "MI5's Official Secrets"; and if he will make a statement.

The investigation by the Metropolitan police, about which I informed the House when answering questions on 18 March, has now been completed and its results have been reported to me by the Director of Public Prosecutions. None of the persons who made, or were said by others to have made, allegations of criminal conduct has been prepared to substantiate those allegations by coming forward with evidence which would justify the institution of proceedings. With my authority, the Director of Public Prosecutions will therefore take no further action in this matter.

Juvenile Courts

asked the Attorney-General what has been the outcome of discussions with the Magistrates Association, the Justices Clerks Society and others on less formal arrangements for juvenile court proceedings, referred to in the Government's reply to the second report of the Social Services Committee, Session 1983–84, Cmnd. 9298.

I have been asked to reply.These discussions have not yet taken place, and may be affected by the consideration which the review of child care law is giving to the style of care proceedings. But the Department will be in touch with the bodies concerned in due course.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Herons

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many applications to kill herons were made in each year since 1983 and to date n 1985; how many were issued; how many herons were permitted to be killed; how many were actually killed; from whom the licences were received; for what reasons they were applied for and granted; what was the location of each killing ground; what deterrent measures had first been tried; and whether the advice of the Nature Conservancy Council was obtained.

Details of applications for and licences issued by my Department in 1983, 1984 and 1985 to kill or take herons are set out in the table.

Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 Licences issued by MAFF in England to kill or take herons
	1983	1984	1985
Number of applications	6	4	2
Number of licences issued	2	1	—
Number of herons permitted to be killed	10	6	—
Number of herons actually killed	2	4	—

(a) Applications were received from fish farms, put-and-take fisheries, and an aquatic nurseryman.

(b) The reasons for applications and licences were to prevent serious damage to fisheries.

(c) The locations of licences were

1983: (i) Padworth, Berkshire

(ii) Littleton, Somerton, Somerset

1984: Padworth, Berkshire

(d) (Deterrent measures included shooting to scare, erection of barriers, screens, cages and nets.

(e) NCC was consulted in all cases where licences were issued.

Fruit And Vegetables

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will publish in the Official Report a table showing for each of the past five years the basic and buying-in prices for certain fruit and vegetables under the common organisation of the market for fruit and vegetables, the cost to the EEC budget and the quantities removed from the market for distillation, destruction or otherwise.

The latest information available is as follows:

EC basic and buying-in prices for fruit and vegetables 1980–85 ecu/100 kg
Commodity	Basic price	Buying-in price
Cauliflowers
1980–81	13·49	5·81
1981–82	15·24	6·57
1982–83	17·36	7·49
1983–84	18·64	8·05
1984–85	19·07	8·23
Tomatoes
1980–81	17·30	7·27
1981–82	19·02	7·99
1982–83	21·11	8·87
1983–84	21·99	9·24
1984–85	21·73	9·13
Peaches
1980–81	34·42	21·24
1981–82	38·27	23·61
1982–83	42·93	26·48
1983–84	45·76	28·22
1984–85	45·99	28·37
Lemons
1980–81	27·76	16·90
1981–82	31·20	19·01
1982–83	35·37	21·57
1983–84	37·90	32·12
1984–85	38·11	23·25
Pears
1980–81	19·43	10·49
1981–82	21·75	11·71
1982–83	24·56	13·19
1983–84	25·48	13·67
1984–85	25·62	13·74
Table Grapes
1980–81	23·74	14·45

Commodity	Basic price	Buying-in price
1981–82	26·49	16·17
1982–83	29·83	18·25
1983–84	31·84	19·51
1984–85	32·51	19·92
Apples
1980–81	20·42	10·40
1981–82	22·54	11·48
1982–83	25·36	12·92
1983–84	26·36	13·43
1984–85	26·51	13·51
Mandarins
1980–81	33·42	21·93
1981–82	37·27	24·44
1982–83	41·55	27·22
1983–84	43·92	28·77
1984–85	44·15	28·92
Sweet
Oranges
1980–81	28.59	19.16
1981–82	31·98	21·36
1982–83	36·08	24·03
1983–84	38·57	25·65
1984–85	38·78	25·78
Aubergines
1982–83	16·03	6·42
1983–84	17·07	6·84
1984–85	17·41	6·98
Apricots
1982–83	42·31	25·39
1983–84	45·06	27·04
1984–85	44·61	26·77

Note: Basic and buying-in prices vary seasonally and in some cases vary according to variety, size and other factors. The figures given are the lowest seasonal price for the standard presentation.

Basic and buying-in prices did not apply to aubergines and apricots before 1982–83.

EC withdrawals of horticultural produce 1980–81 to 1983–84 Thousand tonnes
	1980–81	1981–82	1982–83	1983–84
Total amounts withdrawn	1,007	812	1,874	2,052
Free distribution in fresh or processed form to charitable organisations etc.	45	51	84	n/a
Used for animal feed	349	158	474	n/a
Used for distillation	308	125	709	n/a
Assumed to be spoilt or wasted	305	478	607	n/a
Value of compensation paid by FEOGA (thousand ecus)	111	139	265	446

n/a=Not available. No information for 1984–85 is yet available.

Source: EC Commission.

Farm Holdings (Payments)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will publish in the Official Report a table showing the estimated amount received under the appropriate headings of parts I, II, IV and V of table 28 of the annual review White Paper (Cmnd. 9423) in the case of farm holdings with more than 100 dairy cows, 50 beef cows, 1,000 pigs and 1,000 sheep.

Information is not available in the form requested.

Common Agricultural Policy

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will bring up to date the information given in the reply of 26 February, Official Report, columns 91–93, concerning prices and levies; and what further changes he envisages as a result of more recent movements in the exchange rate.

The information requested is set out in the tables. The "world prices" shown in table 1 are generally the lowest offer prices at the Community frontier underlying the Commission's calculation of the variable import levies. I remind the hon. Member that these are the lowest prices recorded and it is highly likely that on average higher prices would have to be paid if larger quantities were to be purchased on world markets. The "world prices" shown do not necessarily relate to the same quality or presentation of product for which United Kingdom market prices are set out in table 2.The levies and notional world prices shown reflect the £-ecu exchange rate used to calculate monetary compensatory amounts (MCA) for the week commencing 22 April. Any subsequent movement in this exchange rate would, other things being equal, have a direct effect on the notional world price shown and, for products to which the MCA system applies, cause a broadly equal but opposite change in the levy applicable in the United Kingdom. The effect of the MCA system is to insulate United Kingdom market prices from movements in the market exchange rate of the pound.

TABLE 1
Levy Applicable in the United Kingdom and Notional "World" Price^ on 24 April 1985 for the Main Traded Agricultural Commodities*
	Levy^† Applicable in United Kingdom (£/tonne)	Notional "world" price (£/tonne)
Common wheat	59	109
Barley	58	96
Maize	51	104
Rice	356	148
Sugar	‡298	111
Olive oil	402	836
Butter	\|\|1,437	768
Skimmed milk powder	678	469
Beef and veal	¶1,446	935
Pigmeat	249	930
Sheepmeat	● —	1,739
Poultrymeat	138	722
Eggs	151	626

Note:

^* "world" prices have been calculated by subtracting the levy applicable on 24 April from the threshold/guide price. The beef price is also adjusted for duty. In the case of pigmeat, poultrymeat and eggs, the "world" price has been taken as the sluicegate price, less supplementary levy where appropriate. The resulting estimate has been converted from ECU/t at the appropriate market rate of exchange £0·606046= 1ECU;

†the rates of levy vary for different tariff headings. The rates quoted are beef and veal—carcase; pigmeat—carcase; poultrymeat—70 per cent. chickens; rice—wholly milled long grain; virgin olive oil (1,507 AIa) eggs in shell including supplementary levy. Levies are shown after deduction of the monetary compensatory amount where applicable;

‡ in practice the United Kingdom's imports from third countries are normally covered by the Lomé convention and enter the Community levy-free;

|| a special lower rate of levy is applicable to imports of butter from New Zealand;

¶most imports of beef from third countries are subject to special arrangements allowing entry at reduced levy rates;

● imports of lamb under voluntary restraint arrangements with principal suppliers and related agreements are subject to a reduced charge of 10 per cent, ad valorem. Any imports outside these arrangements are subject to levies which cannot exceed the 20 per cent, tariff bound in the GATT.

Table 2
Selected Average Market/Wholesale Prices United Kingdom: Week ending 20 April 1985
	£/tonne
Common wheat (grower to merchant price England and Wales)	^*117
Barley (grower to merchant price England and Wales)	^*110
Maize (USA ex port Bristol)	†164
Rice (US long grain—London)	615
Sugar (refined bulk granulated)	419
Olive oil (EC origin, cif UK)	1,847
Butter (English, wholesale, London)	2,270
Skimmed milk powder (list price)	1,050
Fat cattle, certified, UK (liveweight)	945
Fat sheep, certified, GB (estimated dressed carcase weight)	2,438
Fat pigs (all pigs, deadweight)	1,021
Poultrymeat (broilers, liveweight)	573
Eggs (size 3, packer to producer price)	589

Note: A wide range of price quotations exists for individual commodities depending on quality, presentation, stage of marketing and so on. Those shown are intended to be illustrative of prices paid by wholesalers or received by producers.

^* Relates to week ended 13 April.

^† Relates to week ended 17 April.

Farmed Deer

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he expects to respond to the recommendations in the report of the Farm Animal Welfare Council on the welfare of farmed deer.

We shall respond with our proposals once full consideration has been given to the results of our current consultations with interested parties.

Captive Bolt Pistols

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will improve the accuracy of captive bolt pistols by requiring cattle stunning boxes to contain head restraining devices.

A requirement for all cattle stunning boxes to contain head restraining devices is one of the recommendations made by the Farm Animal Welfare Council in its report on the welfare of livestock (red meat animals) at the time of slaughter. The Government are considering the council's recommendations.

Green Top Milk

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) whether he has any plans to phase out or further reduce the production levels of green top milk;(2) why licences for the production and sale of green top milk have been reduced in duration.

Regulations amending the Milk (Special Designation) Regulations 1977 were laid down before Parliament on 9 April. Their purpose is to prohibit the sale of untreated milk through shops, schools, hotels and other catering establishments in England and Wales with effect from 1 November 1985. This policy was announced by my predecessor in 1980, but could not be implemented until now because of the 5 year validity of untreated milk licences.

I have no plans at present to introduce further restrictions, but policy on untreated milk will be kept under review taking account of public health considerations, of the need to preserve consumer choice and of the interests of producers. It is clearly desirable that if changes are considered necessary on health grounds they should be introduced rather more quickly than was possible in 1980: on the other hand, I recognise that producers and distributors need to be able to plan ahead. The fact that untreated milk licences to be issued from 1 November 1985 will be valid for three years rather than for five is intended to strike a reasonable balance between these two considerations.

Milk Quotas

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what recent estimate: he has made of the implications for agricultural employment of the introduction of milk production quotas.

In so far as can be ascertained, the direct effects of the introduction of milk quotas on agricultural employment have been small.

Pigmeat Storage

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether a European Community scheme of aids to encourage the private storage of pigmeat will be introduced in the current year.

I am glad to say that the management committee has decided to introduce such a scheme as from 6 May. The scheme will give traders the option of receiving assistance for storing pigmeat at a time when this may be preferred to putting the rest onto the market.British traders have made greater use of these aids in recent years and I hope they will again take full advantage of this year's scheme.

Wales

Private Cars And Telephones

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what proportion of Welsh people have (a) a private car and (b) a telephone; and what were the relevant figures for (i) 1961, (ii) 1971 and (iii) 1980.

Information on the number of persons in households with access to one or more cars or vans has been collected in the Censuses of Population held in 1966 (10 per cent, sample), 1971 and 1981. In 1966 the figure was 52 per cent, rising to 60 per cent, and 70 per cent, in 1971 and 1981 respectively. No comparable information is available for 1961. Information on the availability of telephones is not collected at a personal level, but in 1983 it is estimated that 74 per cent, of households in Wales had a telephone in their accommodation. This estimate is based on information collected from time to time in the General Household Survey and the comparable figures for 1980 and 1972 were 67 per cent, and 24 per cent, respectively.

Road Schemes

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many road schemes in Wales in each year since 1979 have been designed on behalf of his Department by local authorities' highways departments, acting as agents.

For all such schemes, irrespective of cost, the information is as follows:

	Number
1979	58
1980	50
1981	102
1982	69
1983	38
1984	70

Consultants

asked the Secretary of State for Wales in how many instances since 1979 he has appointed outside consultants to undertake work within his Department; and if he will specify which consultants, their remuneration and in respect of which sections of his Department their work was commissioned.

Information relating to the appointment, by my Department, of outside consultants prior to the financial year 1984–85 is not readily available and to provide it would involve disproportionate costs.In the financial year 1984–85, outside consultants were appointed by my Department in four instances to undertake specialised one-off tasks. The following are details of the consultants concerned, their remuneration and the sections of the Department in respect of which the work was commissioned.

Consultant	Remuneration £	Section of Department
Spencer Stuart Management Consultants	13,800	CADW
PA Consulting Services Ltd.	18,059	Health Group
Deloitte Haskins and Sells	24,940	Industry Department
Price Waterhouse Associates	36,855	Transport and Highways Division

In addition, firms of consulting engineers are engaged on various trunk road schemes.

A470 (Improvements)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what plans he has to monitor future road improvements on the A470 between Blaenau Ffestiniog and Betws-y-Coed; and if he will make a statement.

As already announced, consultants are to be appointed to examine the road between Blaenau Ffestiniog and Betws-y-Coed with a view to developing a suitable policy governing any future road improvements on this stretch of the A470.

Chest Specialists

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many chest specialists or consultants there were per head of population in (a) Wales and (b) England in (i) 1971, (ii) 1979 and (iii) 1984.

The information requested for Wales is as follows:

	Number of consultants in thoracic medicine	Rate per population
1971	14·9	5·5
1979	18·1	6·5
1984	6·1	2·2

Details for England are a matter for my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services.

Home Department

Community Radio

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what recent representations he has received in support of community radio stations in Scotland; and if he will make a statement.

Since the reply given to a question from my hon. Friend the Member for Kingswood (Mr. Hayward) on 23 January, at columns 417–8, we have received about a dozen letters on community radio in Scotland, together with a number of telephone inquiries. Most of the approaches have been from persons wishing to set up community radio stations. My right hon. and learned Friend hopes to make a statement before long on how we propose to take forward the development of community radio.

Police (Dismissals)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many police officers were dismissed for misconduct during 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983 and 1984, respectively; and if he will make a statement.

The number of police officers in England and Wales required to resign or dismissed for offences under the police discipline code, and not reinstated on appeal, are as follows:

	Required to resign	Dismissed	Required to resign or dismissed for criminal conduct^^†*
1980	41	14	73
1981	30	32	63
1982	62	19	58
1983	49	31	61
1984	38	20	57
^* The records provided by forces (other than the Metropolitan police) do not differentiate between the punishments for this offence.
†These figures may include some officers required to resign or dismissed for other disciplinary offences as well as criminal conduct.

Electoral Reform

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what assessment he has made of the additional number of people who will be enfranchised to vote at the next general election in accordance with the provisions of the Representation of the People Bill's proposals for holidaymakers; and when he expects to lay the relevant statutory instrument.

The number will depend on when the election is called, but the Government's White Paper on the "Representation of the People Acts" (Cmnd. 9140, paragraph 3.7) pointed out that well over a million people may be away on holiday on any particular day of May or June. It is our intention to bring the new arrangements for holidaymakers and others to vote by post or proxy into operation by February 1987.

Benzodiazepine Drugs

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will publish the response of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs regarding the scheduling of benzodiazepine drugs under the United Nations convention on psychotropic substances 1971.

We are awaiting a recommendation from the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs on the scheduling of benzodiazepines under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971. Its recommendations on this matter will be made known in due course.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what organisations have been consulted by his Department regarding the possible rescheduling of benzodiazepine drugs under the United Nations convention on psychotropic substances 1971.

We have to date consulted the following trade and professional organisations on the changes which we think are necessary to the misuse of drugs legislation to enable us to comply with the requirements of the United Nations Convention on Psychotropic Substances 1971:

The Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain
The National Pharmaceutical Association
Association of British Pharmaceutical Industry
National Association fo Pharmaceutical Distributors
Proprietary Association of Great Britain
Pharmaceutical Services Negotiating Committee
Company Chemists' Association Ltd
Royal College of Physicians
Royal College of Surgeons of England
Royal College of General Practitioners
Royal College of Psychiatrists
Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons
Royal College of Nursing of the United Kingdom
Royal College of Midwives
Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists
Joint Consultants Committee
General Medical Services Committee
Community Medicine Consultative Committee
General Medical Council
General Dental Council
British Medical Association
British Dental Association
British Veterinary Association
General Nursing Council for England and Wales
Association of Nurse Administrators
Faculty of Anaesthetists of the Royal College of Surgeons of England
Guild of Hospital Pharmacists
National Association of Health Administrators
National Association of Health Authorities for England and Wales
Society of Family Practitoner Committees
Society of Administrators of Family Practitioner Services
British Chemical Distributors and Traders Association
British Distributors of Animal Medicines
Pharmaceutical General Council (Scotland)
Royal College of Midwives (Scottish Board)
Royal College of Nursing (Scottish Board)
Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons (Glasgow)
Royal College of Physicians of Edinburgh
Royal College of General Practitioners (Edinburgh)
Royal College of Surgeons of Edinburgh
Scottish Association of Nurse Administrators
National Board for Nursing, Midwifery and Health Visiting for Scotland
Scottish General Medical Services Committee
Scottish Joint Consultants' Committee
Association of Scottish Local Health Councils

Scottish Health Visitors Association
Welsh Medical Committee
Welsh Nursing and Midwifery Committee
Welsh Pharmaceutical Committee
North of Ireland Veterinary Association
Pharmaceutical Society of Northern Ireland
Pharmaceutical Contractors' Committee (Northern Ireland)

Deportation

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will provide a table indicating the total number of people served with notice of intention to deport during 1984 and 1983 by nationality and category.

[pursuant to his reply, 25 February 1985, c. 26]: The details are as follows:

Notices of intention to deport served, by nationality and category 1984
Number of persons
	Category^*
Nationality	S.3(5)(a)	S.3(5)(b)	S.3(5)(c)	Total
Commonwealth
Antigua	1	—	—	1
Australia	13	2	—	15
Bahamas	—	1	—	1
Bangladesh	27	—	—	27
Barbados	2	—	—	2
Botswana	1	—	—	1
Canada	8	—	—	8
Cyprus	68	1	—	69
Dominica	1	—	—	1
Fiji	1	—	—	1
Gambia	1	—	—	1
Ghana	343	11	1	355
Grenada	5	—	—	5
Guyana	22	1	—	23
Hong Kong (BDTC)	57	1	—	58
India	136	8	1	145
Jamaica	24	8	—	32
Kenya	16	—	—	16
Malaysia	48	2	—	50
Malta	6	—	—	6
Mauritius	28	1	—	29
Montserrat (BDTC)	2	—	—	2
New Zealand	3	—	—	3
Nigeria	342	15	—	357
Seychelles	3	—	—	3
Sierra Leone	25	—	—	25
Singapore	8	—	—	8
Sri Lanka	78	—	1	79
St. Christopher and Nevis	1	—	—	1
St. Lucia	2	1	—	3
Tanzania	16	—	—	16
Trinidad and Tobago	2	1	—	3
Uganda	10	—	—	10
Zambia	2	—	—	2
Zimbabwe	41	—	—	41
Commonwealth Total	1,343	53	3	1,399
Foreign
Afghanistan	1	—	—	1
Algeria	27	3	—	30
Argentina	4	—	—	4
Austria	3	—	—	3
Bahrain	3	—	—	3
Belgium	—	1	—	1
Bolivia	1	—	—	1
Brazil	8	—	—	8
Burma	5	—	—	5
Cameroons	7	—	—	7
Chile	4	—	—	4
China	3	—	—	3

	Category^*
Nationality	S.3(5)(a)	S.3(5)(b)	S.3(5)(c)	Total
Colombia	36	1	—	37
Denmark	1	2	—	3
Ecuador	1	—	—	1
Egypt	71	1	—	72
Ethiopia	2	—	—	2
Finland	2	1	—	3
France	2	3	—	5
Germany (FRG)	1	1	—	2
Greece	13	3	—	16
Guatemala	1	—	—	1
Haiti	1	—	—	1
Hungary	1	—	—	1
Indonesia	5	—	—	5
Iran	133	4	—	137
Iraq	33	—	—	33
Ireland	—	10	—	10
Israel	15	4	—	19
Italy	—	4	—	4
Ivory Coast	3	—	—	3
Japan	5	—	—	5
Jordan	4	1	—	5
South Korea	3	—	—	3
Kuwait	1	—	—	1
Lebanon	13	1	—	14
Liberia	1	—	—	1
Libya	45	15	—	60
Mexico	6	—	—	6
Morocco	32	—	—	32
Mozambique	4	—	—	4
Netherlands	—	5	—	5
Niger	1	—	—	1
Pakistan	133	21	2	156
Peru	2	—	—	2
Philippines	25	—	—	25
Poland	1	—	—	1
Portugal	13	1	—	14
Qatar	1	—	—	1
Saudi Arabia	8	—	—	8
Senegal	1	—	—	1
Somalia	4	1	—	5
South Africa	5	1	—	6
Spain	35	—	—	35
Sudan	18	1	—	19
Surinam	1	—	—	1
Sweden	1	—	—	1
Switzerland	1	1	—	2
Syria	6	—	—	6
Thailand	19	—	—	19
Togo	1	—	—	1
Tunisia	7	—	—	7
Turkey	90	3	—	93
United Arab Emirates	3	—	—	3
United States of America	33	2	—	35
Uruguay	1	—	—	1
Venezuela	2	—	—	2
South Yemen	8	—	—	8
Yugoslavia	6	—	—	6
Zaire	2	—	—	2
Stateless	6	—	—	6
Foreign Total	936	91	2	1,029
All Nationalities	2,277	144	5	2,426
^* Section of the Immigration Act.

Prime Minister

Far East (Visit)

Q26.

asked the Prime Minister what reactions she has received from British industry and commerce to her visit to the far east; and what prospects for improved export performances to the countries visited she now expects.

Reaction to my visit has been very positive. United Kingdom companies active in these markets have reported an improvement in the general climate for doing business. I am confident that there is now a much greater awareness—at the highest level—of the capabilities of British industry. The success of my visit has made a significant contribution towards the improvement of bilateral relations, which will undoubtedly benefit our companies.

Q66.

asked the Prime Minister why her press secretary, Mr. Bernard Ingham, accompanied her on her recent official visit to the far east; and in how many previous such visits he has taken part.

To advise me on, and handle, my relations with the media and to brief journalists as required by the duties of his office. He has accompanied me on all bar one of my visits overseas since he took up his post on 1 November 1979.

Nuclear Weapons

Q40.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will make a statement on the latest information given to her by the United States administration regarding the progress of the negotiations with the Soviet Union regarding nuclear weapons in Geneva.

The three chief American negotiators at the Geneva talks led by Mr. Kampelman, briefed the North Atlantic Council on 24 April on the state of negotiations at the end of the first round which adjourned the previous day. Close consultations continue to take place in NATO bodies and elsewhere including the Bonn summit on 2 to 4 May.

British Council

Q84.

asked the Prime Minister on what criteria the decision was taken to reduce the level of provision for the British Council's overseas activities.

The council's overall provision has not been reduced. On the contrary, it will be receiving nearly £6 million more in 1985–86 than the sum originally established for that year. Within this total, however, the British Council has been asked to absorb in 1985–86 about £1·1 million of its risen costs as a contribution towards the overall need to keep the Government's spending within the resources available. The decision on where these savings should fall was for the British Council's board.

Security Services

asked the Prime Minister how Ministers in her Administration with responsibilities for satisfying themselves that the security services operate entirely within the letter and spirit of their directive discharge their duties in this respect; and if she will make a statement.

I have nothing to add to the full explanation of the arrangements for ministerial oversight of the work of the security service which my hon. and learned Friend the Minister of State, Home Office, gave the House on 4 April at columns 1380–84.

asked the Prime Minister if Her Majesty's Government have been satisfied that the security forces have operated entirely within the letter and spirit of their directive at all times since May 1979; and if she will make a statement.

I have nothing to add to what my right hon. and learned Friend the Home Secretary said on Second Reading of the Interception of Communications Bill on 12 March at columns 152–56, about the propriety with which the security service carries out its tasks under its directive.

Departmental Salaries

asked the Prime Minister how many persons employed in any capacity by the Department of Health and Social Security are paid £30,000 per annum or more.

On 1 April 1985 there were 59 employees of the Department of Health and Social Security being paid £30,000 per annum or more.

Social Services Departments (Salaries)

asked the Prime Minister what information she has as to the number of persons employed in any capacity by social services departments of local authorities who are paid £30,000 per annum or more.

Information is not collected centrally on the pay of individual local authority employees.

Ve Day

asked the Prime Minister whether Wednesday 8 May will be designated as a public holiday in commemoration of the 40th anniversary of Victory in Europe day.

No.

Engagements

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 30 April.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 30 April.

This morning I had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others including one with the Prime Minister of Canada. In addition to my duties in this House I shall be having further meetings later today. This evening I hope to have an audience of Her Majesty the Queen, and will be giving a dinner for the Prime Minister of Canada.

Fontainebleau Summit

asked the Prime Minister if she is satisfied with the progress being made in implementing the decisions of the Fontainebleau summit.

Agreement was reached last December on conclusions on budgetary discipline. The Council reached agreement in March on the text of the new own resources decision including provision for the United Kingdom's abatement. The terms of Spanish and Portuguese entry into the Community have been agreed. Follow-up work is in hand on the reports of the two ad hoc Committees set up at Fontainebleau.

Australian Royal Commission

asked the Prime Minister, pursuant to her reply of 17 April, Official Report, column 173, if she will explain the nature of the documents withheld from the Australian Royal commission on grounds of (a) international relations and (b) personal sensitivity; and how many documents were withheld in each case.

The Australian Royal commission is well aware that a very small amount of material involving the interests of third countries has been withheld where disclosure would damage the United Kingdom's international relations. Other material has been provided to the Royal Commission after consultation with the countries concerned.Considerations of personal sensitivity apply mainly to medical or radiation dose information, which in the United Kingdom may not be published without the consent of the individual concerned. By deleting names in many cases it has been possible to supply relevant information without infringing personal sensitivity. The number of documents relevant to the terms of reference of the Australian Royal Commission withheld on these grounds is small, compared with the several thousand already supplied.The Australian authorities are well aware of the position; Senator Evans, Australian Minister for Resources and Energy, in answer to a question in the Australian Senate on 19 April, stated that it was his understanding that the United Kingdom Government had been co-operating with the Royal Commission and that there was no belief in the Commission that it had now been denied access to documents of significance for its inquiry and its conclusions. Senator Evans went on to say that he had no reason to believe that there was any degree of concern at all in the Commission about the level of cooperation by the United Kingdom Government.

Nuclear Trigger Devices (Testing)

asked the Prime Minister if she will list the occasions on which nuclear trigger devices have been tested in the United Kingdom.

No tests of neutron initiators for nuclear weapons, sometimes referred to as "triggers" of a nature described in my reply of 2 April, at column 524, have been conducted in the United Kingdom.

School Leavers

asked the Prime Minister what proportion of young people left school at (a) 16 years and (b) 18 years in (i) Wales, (ii) England and (iii) Scotland in 1984.

The information is as follows:

School leavers in the academic year 1983–84^*
Leavers as a percentage of the numbers in the age group†
Leavers aged‡	Wales percentage	England percentage	Scotland percentage
16	66	67	43
18	16	17	22
^* Provisional data for England and Wales.
† School leavers expressed as a percentage of the population in the age group.
‡Ages at 31 August 1984 for England and Wales; 31 December 1984 for Scotland.

Member's Correspondence

asked the Prime Minister when she hopes to be able to reply to the letter from the hon. Member for Linlithgow, dated 29 March, on out of area arrangements for the supply of equipment to the United Kingdom from the United States of America under North Atlantic Treaty Organisation arrangements.

Soon.

Rates (Review)

asked the Prime Minister if she will extend the scope of the review of rates to include water rates.

The scope for extending metering instead of rateable value as a means of charging households for water supplies is currently being considered by a joint study involving the Department of the Environment and the water industry. In responding to the study's recommendations, the Government will also take account of any relevant proposals which may emerge from the review of local government finance.

Environment

"The Glory Of The Garden"

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will disregard for calculation of rate support grant penalties those sums offered by local authorities as challenge funding in respect of regional arts developments which are sponsored by the Arts Council of Great Britain in accordance with the policy set out in "The Glory of the Garden".

My right hon. Friend will consider any such representations which he receives.

Felixstowe Dock And Railway Bill

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what steps he takes to examine the planning implications of developments for which authority is sought by private Bill; and if he will make a statement on the specific steps taken in the case of the Felixstowe Dock and Railway Bill.

The Government do not normally get directly involved in private Bills unless national policies are prejudiced. My Department is at present considering the provisions of the Bill and will decide in due course whether to submit a report to Parliament.

Rates

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what information he has as to the amount of rateable revenue recovered by local authorities in England and Wales from (a) vacant retail premises, (b) vacant offices and (c) vacant garage/showroom premises for each year since 1979.

The information is not available centrally.

Housing Starts (London)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will indicate for each London borough and the Greater London council, how many housing starts are planned for 1985.

My Department has made no such estimates.

Crisis Management

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment, further to the answer of 1 April, Official Report, column 435, if he will state the envisaged scenarios within which his Department has taken part in the corporate exercise of testing crisis management measures other than Wintex-Cimex in the past two years.

No. Details of the scenarios of these exercises are classified.

Local Authorities (Overtime)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what information he has as to the total amount paid out by local authorities in overtime for the last 12-month period for which figures are available.

This information is not collected centrally.

Leicestershire (Financial Aid)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will detail all financial aid given to (a) the county of Leicestershire and (b) the city of Leicester since 1979, including the inner area programme and all other schemes; and if he will break the figures down by year.

The readily available information is given in the table. The figures for inner area programme, slum clearance and improvement grants are not on the same basis as the overall figures for specific grants of which they form part. They are taken from central records of payments or entitlements, whereas the latter are from the authorities' outturn returns.

Financial aid to county of Leicestershire and city of Leicester
£million
	1979–80	1980–81	1981–82	1982–83	1983–84	1984–85	1985–86
Leicestershire
Rate support grant^*	—	—	—	—	—	—	—
Needs and resources†	75·5	80·0	—	—	—	—	—
Block grant†	—	—	129·8	129·7	133·4	136·2	134·6
Transport supplementary grant\|\|	1·7	1·0	1·1	3·1	4·9	6·2	3·9
Capital grant¶	0·9	—	0·6	2·6	0·4	—	—
Specific grants¶of which	21·3	26·4	30·9	31·5	36·7	—	—
Inner area programme●	0·6	0·8	1·3	1·1	1·1	—	—
Mandatory student awards★	8·4	10·4	12·2	10·7	11·5	11·8	12·4
Leicester city
Rate support grant^*	—	—	—	—	—	—	—
Needs and resources†	14·1	15·7	—	—	—	—	—
Block grant†	—	—	9·7	8·1	8·0	9·7	12·0
Domestic/DRRG‡	2·9	2·9	3·0	3·0	3·1	3·1	3·1
Housing subsidy■	10·3	11·7	7·8	2·4	—	—	—
Housing benefits#	3·8	4·7	4·3	10·1	24·7	24·1	26·9
Capital grants¶	1·8	2·4	2·4	2·0	3·0	—	—
Specific grants,¶of which	2·9	3·4	3·6	6·2	9·9	—	—
Inner area programme●	0·7	1·3	1·0	2·1	1·7	—	—
Slum clearance■	0·5	0·6	0·6	0·5	0·4	0·4	0·3
Improvement grants■	0·7	1·0	1·4	2·2	3·2	4·2	4·9

Notes:

^* The rate support grant system changed in 1981–82. Figures for earlier year are not on a comparable basis. The figures for 1979–80 and 1980–81 include the needs, resources and domestic elements. Thereafter they include block grant and domestic rate relief grant.

† Figures up to 1981–82 are final entitlements. Those for 1982–83 and 1983–84 are entitlements based on outturn after holdback, and for 1984–85 entitlements based on budgets after holdback. The figures for 1985–86 are before holdback and based on budget for Leicestershire and on expenditure limit for Leicester city.

‡ Figures up to 1983–84 are final entitlements. Those for 1984–85 and 1985–86 are latest estimates.

|| The figures up to 1984–85 cover all transport, while that for 1985–86 is for roads capital only.

¶ The figures are from the authorities' outturn returns and are not available for 1984–85 and 1985–86.

● The figures are from central records of payments and are not available for 1984–85 and 1985–86.

■ The figures for 1979–80 to 1982–83 are from the authorities' final audited claims. Those for 1983–84 to 1985–86 are provisional.

★ The figures up to 1983–84 are from outturn returns and for 1984–85 and 1985–86 from budget returns.

# The figures cover payments of subsidies for rent and rate rebates and rent allowances by DOE from 1979–80 to 1982–83 (part) and by DHSS from 1982–83 (part) to 1985–86. Those for 1979–80 to 1983–84 are based on final audited claims, while those for 1984–85 are from mid-year and initial claims respectively.

Council House Sales

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish in the Official Report the total number of dwellings sold by Leicester city council in 1984, and for each of the past four years; if he will give the total figure for England for each of the same years; and if he will make a statement.

Following are the numbers of dwelling sales, right to buy and voluntary, reported by Leicester city council in each calendar year from 1980 and the corresponding estimates for all English local authorities.

	Leicester	England
1980	76	79,600
1981	224	94,200
1982	1,469	186,700
1983	1,455	134,900
1984	492	99,400

I am pleased that more than 3,700 homes have been bought in this way and I look forward to many more such purchases as tenants continue to exercise the rights conferred on them by Parliament.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he has any plans to privatise pubicly owned housing in inner city areas.

No., but we are encouraging local authorities to adopt a more imaginative range of solutions to the problems of their run-down estates, including disposal to private trusts or developers, and initiatives for the better management of local authority estates, such as the Priority Estates project. My right hon. Friend announced on 26 February 1985, at column 99, that he was setting up the urban housing renewal unit within the Department for this purpose. The unit will be launched shortly.Closer partnership between the public and private sectors is in the best interests of those who live in the public sector.

Falkland Islands (Airport)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is (a) the original and (b) the current estimate for the cost of (i) the runway at Mount Pleasant airport, (ii) the army facilities at Mount Pleasant airport and (iii) other costs of the airfield excluding the runway.

The original cost of the airport works announced in June 1983 was £215 million. The current estimate is £276 million. The increase mainly arises from the provision of additional joint service facilities in the interests of overall economy, and from price changes due to inflation.

The current estimate for the army works remains at £119 million. This figure reflects savings achieved by reducing the accommodation requirements, offset by price changes due to inflation.

It is not the practice to disclose rates for particular components of the contracts.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment which items in the original estimate for the cost of the Mount Pleasant airport were priced in non-sterling currencies; and what revision in the cost of the airport has occurred due to falls in the value of the pound sterling.

None. The only element in the contracts directly sensitive to exchange rate fluctuations is the cost of fuel oil for ships which amounts in total to some £9 million. There have been no increases in the total estimated costs of the airport directly attributable to falls in the value of the pound sterling.

Rate Support Grant

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) if he will list each local authority in England indicating the amount of rate support grant per head for 1985–86;(2) if he will list each local authority in England according to the percentage of the national rate support grant that was allocated to it for each year since 1979.

I shall answer these questions shortly.

Scotland

Toll Charges

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether the decision not to charge tolls on the planned new Dornoch bridge represents a change of the Government's policy relating to estuarial crossings.

No. It is not Government policy to toll estuarial crossings where to do so would frustrate the objectives of providing the crossing. The Dornoch bridge will form part of the improved A9. To charge tolls could discourage traffic using the bridge in preference to the existing route round the Firth.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether arrangements will now be made to abolish toll charges at all estuarial crossings in Scotland.

No.

Herons

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is his estimate of the number of herons; and whether their number is declining.

The Nature Conservancy Council's most recent survey of the heron population in 1979 established that there were 1,500 pairs in Scotland. There is no evidence that their number is declining, but I understand that this year the British Trust for Ornithology is to conduct a national survey of the heronries of Britain and Northern Ireland.

Rates

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in the Official Report in respect of (a) each local authority area in Scotland and (b) the average for Scotland as a whole, the percentage increase in average rates bills for 1985–86 over 1984–85 for (i) domestic, (ii) industrial, (iii) commercial, (iv) miscellaneous, (v) public utility and (vi) all subjects.

I am obtaining this information and hope to publish it in the Official Report shortly.

Police (Misconduct)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many police officers in Scotland were dismissed for misconduct during 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983 and 1984, respectively; and if he will make a statement.

In these years, nine police officers were dismissed and 29 were required to resign as an alternative to dismissal, having been found guilty of disciplinary offences as set out in schedule 1 to the Police (Discipline) (Scotland) Regulations 1967. These figures include seven officers who were later reinstated on appeal to the Secretary of State. The figures for each year are as follows:

	Dismissed	Required to resign as an alternative to dismissal
1980	2	4
1981	—	9
1982	4	2
1983	3	10
1984	—	4

Job Creation (Greenock)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what level of funding is devoted by the Manpower Services Commission to the Greenock travel-to-work area.

[pursuant to his reply, 19 April 1985, c. 248]: I regret that the information is not available in the form requested. However, it is estimated that over £24 million was spent by the Manpower Services Commission in 1984–85 in the Renfrew, Dumbarton, Argyll and Bute area, exclusive of administration costs, but including the operating costs at the jobcentres in the area.

Energy

Lead In Petrol

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will estimate the level of investment required in the United Kingdom refining industry between now and 1989 to meet the requirements to produce unleaded petrol; and if he will make a statement.

The United Kingdom refining industry will probably need to invest somewhat over £200 million to move from petrol containing 0·15 grams per litre to unleaded petrol. The investment will be spread over many years. It is not possible to apportion this expenditure between that which has already been incurred, that which will be incurred between now and 1989 and that which will be incurred thereafter.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will estimate the total energy penalty in terms of barrels of crude oil which will be paid by the United Kingdom following the decision to introduce unleaded petrol.

The decision to introduce unleaded petrol may eventually increase crude oil consumption in the United Kingdom by perhaps 12,000 barrels a day when conversion from leaded petrol is completed.

Brown Book

asked the Secretary of State for Energy when he will publish his next report on oil and gas development in the United Kingdom, the Brown Book.

I have today published the latest edition of the Brown Book, and arranged for copies to be placed in the Library of the House and the Vote Office Stores. The report gives a detailed account of oil and gas development in 1984.

Trade And Industry

Swops Project

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what representations he has received from Mr. Durber of Hawker Siddeley pic in the matter of the SWOPS project.

Representations have been received from Mr. Durber, the details of which are commercially confidential.

United States Telecommunications Companies

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what information he has as to how many United States telecommunications companies are operating in the United Kingdom and in what sectors of the market.

My Department does not keep records in the form requested.

Video Cassette Recorders

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what was the total annual value of video cassette recorders sold in the United Kingdom over the last five years.

The available information is as follows:

Estimated sales in United Kingdom of video recorders 1980–84
	£ million
1980	96
1981	275
1982	523
1983	534
1984	375

Source: Business Monitors PQ 365.2 & PQ 3454.

Notes:

1980–83: Estimate = imports less exports; United Kingdom production thought to be negligible for 1980–82 and is omitted for 1983 owing to the risk of disclosing information about individual enterprises.

1984: Estimate = United Kingdom production plus imports less exports.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry who were the major manufacturers of video cassette recorders sold in the United Kingdom; and what were their shares of the United Kingdom market for each year since 1978.

This information is not available on overseas producers of VCRs. The United Kingdom producers of these machines are J2T; Sanyo, Mitsubishi; Toshiba and Sharp. Hitachi plan to begin production in the United Kingdom later this year.

United States (High Technology Exports)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what representations he has received regarding the British company, Systime United Kingdom, which has been fined by the United States Government for breaches of the United States export regulations on high technology products; and if he will make a statement.

My Department has had approaches from a number of sources about Systime's difficulties over United States export controls and has discussed the situation with the company. My officials and representatives of the company remain in touch.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether it is the policy of Her Majesty's Government to invoke the Protection of Trading Interests Act 1980 against the United States Government in cases of extra-territorial application of its export regulations for high technology products; and if he will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend would be prepared to take this course where he is satisfied that it is the most effective way of safeguarding legitimate United Kingdom interests. It is however a weapon of last resort since it puts firms under directly conflicting requirements of law.

Origin Marking

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether he has received the judgment of the European Court of Justice on the origin marking order; and if he will make a statement.

The European Court of Justice has now delivered its judgment that the Origin Marking Order (the Trade Descriptions (Origin Marking) (Miscellaneous Goods) Order 1981) is in breach of Article 30 of the EEC Treaty, in so far as it relates to goods imported from elsewhere in the Community. The Government will be carefully considering the judgment and its implications for the future of the Order, and will consult bodies representative of those affected as soon as possible.

Transport

Helicopters

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what measures are being taken to ensure that tests on the behaviour of helicopters when ditching in the sea (a) are based on experiments on actual aircraft rather than models in tanks and (b) take account of nautical factors and advice available from experienced maritime sources.

The Civil Aviation Authority, which is the responsible body, informs me that it always considers carefully the validity of tank model testing of the behaviour of a helicopter after ditching, when assessing whether that helicopter complies with British civil airworthiness requirements. The authority bases its specific nautical conditions on the internationally agreed code of the World Meteorological Organisation, and also takes account of advice from any other appropriate source.

Road Accidents

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will list staffing levels for those involved in research into ways of reducing the incidence and severity of road accidents at the Transport and Road Research Laboratory in each of the past 12 years.

The numbers of staff at the Transport and Road Research Laboratory directly engaged in research into ways of reducing the incidence and severity of road accidents over the past 12 years were as follows:

As at 1 January	In post
1974	121
1975	104
1976	106
1977	97
1978	82
1979	78
1980	69
1981	62
1982	58
1983	55
1984	68
1985	66

Okehampton Bypass

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what is the annual extra cost per year in delaying the building of the Okehampton bypass.

The extra cost per year to users of the road is expected to be about £1·7 million per year at 1984 price levels.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what is the difference in cost between the southern and northern route of the Okehampton bypass.

The northern route put forward by petitioners and considered recently by the joint committee would cost about £5·25 million more than the Department's southern route at 1984 prices.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport how many acres of agricultural land would be used if the northern route was used for the Okehampton bypass as compared with the southern route.

About 18 acres more agricultural land would be required to construct the northern route as put forward by the petitioners.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport how many homes and quarries would be affected if the northern route for the Okehampton bypass were used as compared with the southern route.

No homes would be demolished but one quarry employing about 10 workers would be closed if the petitioners northern route were used, compared with one home, and two unoccupied cottages, to be demolished but no quarries closed on the Department's southern route.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what steps he is taking to assist motorists and commercial transport-users while there is delay in building the Okehampton bypass.

A diversion to allow holiday traffic to avoid Okehampton at peak summer weekends has been in operation for several years, and we will be examining whether its use should be extended. Recent improvements to the A38 trunk road and further work both about to start and in preparation for the A30 and the A38 should assist east-west traffic movements through Devon.

Consultants

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will list all of the consultants employed in connection with the Transport Bill and Buses White Paper, the nature of projects for which they were employed and the cost to his Department.

I shall reply to this question shortly.

Motor Cyclists

asked the Secretary of State for Transport (1) if he will take action to ensure that motor cyclists are more visible to other road users by encouraging them to use their headlights in the day time;(2) what estimate he has of the percentage and number of accidents involving motor cycles which are primarily due to the motor cyclist involved not being sufficiently visible to other road users.

In 1983 there were 51,545 accidents involving motor cycles. Research by the Transport and Road Research Laboratory suggests that failure by another vehicle driver to see the motor cycle constituted a major factor in approximately a third of these accidents.TRRL has continued to study the problem of motorcyclist conspicuity. The effectiveness of the available daytime conspicuity aids seems to vary according to such factors as ambient lighting levels and the presence and mix of the traffic. But overall, fluorescent clothing, headlamps and daytime running lamps all appear to perform equally well. So the Department has strongly encouraged motor cyclists to make themselves as conspicuous as possible by these means.I am currently studying the recommendation by the Transport Committee that the use of headlamps or running lamps during daylight should be required by law.

Pilots (Redundancy Pay)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if his Department plans to make any contribution towards the redundancy pay for pilots; and if he will make a statement.

The Government propose that any scheme to compensate surplus pilots should be financed from within the shipping industry. It is the shipping industry which will benefit directly from the cost savings which will arise from a more cost-effective pilotage system and the Government see no reason why the taxpayer at large should foot the bill.

National Finance

Revenue Yield

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how much revenue was derived in 1984 from (a) road fund licences, net of the costs of collection, (b) excise duty on petrol and Derv and (c) value added tax on petrol and Derv.

The information is as follows:

(a)£2,065 million;

(b)£4,660 million (petrol),

£1,160 million (Derv);

(c)£930 million (this is an estimate covering all road fuel; no separate estimate is available for Derv, although this amount is likely to be small).

Personal Taxation

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) if he will estimate the number of people taken out of tax in the year 1985–86 (a) if the single person's age allowance is raised to £2,920 and (b) if the married man's age allowance is raised to £4,650;(2) if he will estimate the number of people taken out of tax in the year 1984–85

(a) if the single person's age allowance is raised from £2,360 to £2,655 and (b) if the married man's age allowance is raised from £3,755 to £4,240.

Estimate are as follows:

	Increase in age allowance		Reduction in number of aged taxpayers
	From £	To £
1984–85
Single	2,360	2,655	180,000
Married	3,755	4,240	190,000
1985–86
Single	2,490	230,000	2,920
Married	3,955	4,650	260,000

Married couples are counted as one.

Covenants

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if, with a view to reducing the amount of paperwork involved and the work load of Inland Revenue staff, he will take steps to simplify the processes involved in the convenant procedure; and if he will make a statement.

I shall let the hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.

Excise Duties

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what are the present periods permitted for the deferred payment of excise duties on wines and spirits in Belgium, Denmark, France, Luxembourg, West Germany and the United Kingdom; and if he will explain any differences.

The rules and procedures governing the payment of duty in EEC countries are complex. The following table sets out what Customs and Excise understands to be the average periods of duty deferment applying to wines and spirits.

	Wine	Spirits
Belgium	2 to 6 months according to type	4 months
Luxembourg	2 to 6 months according to type	2 to 6 months
Denmark	65 days	45 days
France	2 months	2 months
West Germany	Still wines are not taxed. Aromatic and liqueur wines 3 months. Sparkling wine 40 days.	3 months
United Kingdom	1 month	1 month

The granting of deferment and the determination of its length are matters for national Governments to decide.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, in his review of duty deferment, he will take account of the recommendations of the Food and Drink Manufacturing Economic Development Committee's report, "Scotch Whisky in the '80s"; and when he expects to complete this review.

Customs and Excise is currently reviewing the arrangements for duty deferment. It hopes to complete the review by the end of 1985. It is, however, a review of administration, and the recommendations of the NEDC report are outside its scope. These recommendations were carefully considered by my right hon. Friend in his review of taxation before his last Budget, and it was decided to make no alteration to the periods of duty deferment allowed for alcoholic drinks

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the estimated cost of increasing the duty deferment period for wines and spirits by two weeks, four weeks and six weeks, respectively.

There would be a once-for-all loss of revenue in the financial year in which the change was introduced. This would be about £185 million for an additional period of deferment of either two or four weeks, because one month's payments will be deferred to the following financial year; and about £370 million for an additional six weeks, because two months' payments would be deferred to the following financial year. There would also be associated borrowing costs.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what are the estimated receipts in 1984–85 and 1985–86 from duties on spirits, beer, wine, made-wine, cider and perry, respectively; and if he will explain any differences.

The estimates are as follows:

	1984–85^£ million*	1985–86^†£ million
Spirits	1,240	1,460
Beer	1,825	1,960
Wine	595	700
Made-wine	50	70
Cider and perry	45	60
Total	3,755	4,250

^* Latest estimates.

† Forecast.

Estimates of increased receipts in 1985–86 result from the increased rates of duty announced in the Budget and forecasts of growth in the economy.

Clearance Procedure

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if, in the light of the decision in Furniss v. Dawson, he will introduce legislation to provide a clearance procedure whereby the taxpayer may apply in advance to the Inland Revenue for a definitive statement as to the tax treatment it would apply to a proposed transaction or series of transactions; and if he will make a statement.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave to his previous question on 27 February 1985 at column 211.

Airports (Duty-Free Shops)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what representations he has received advocating opening a duty-free shop at Teesside airport; and if he will make a statement.

Representations have been received on two occasions, the most recent in 1983. Facilities were refused because the number of outward bound international passengers was below the required level.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will allow the operation of a duty-free shop at Teesside airport.

No. The required level of departing international passengers has not yet been achieved.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what are his criteria for the operation of duty-free shops at airports.

The qualification required for the establishment of a duty-free shop at an airport is 100,000 passengers departing annually for destinations abroad.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer which airports in the United Kingdom operate duty-free shops.

Duty-free shops have been established at Aberdeen, Belfast, Birmingham, Bristol, Cardiff, East Midlands, Edinburgh, Gatwick, Glasgow, Heathrow, Manchester, Newcastle, Prestwick, Southampton and Stansted airports.

Finance Bill

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if notes on those clauses and schedules of the Finance Bill to be taken in Committee of the whole House will be made available to hon. Members.

Yes. The appropriate notes on clauses and their related schedules were placed in the Vote Office earlier today.

Review Board For Government Contracts

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will make a statement on the outcome of the report on the first annual review by the Review Board for Government Contracts.

The review board in its report on the fourth general review proposed that the triennial reviews of the target profit rate should be supplemented by limited annual reviews so that changes in the rate of return elsewhere in the economy and in other economic circumstances can be reflected more quickly in the profit rate. The review board submitted the first of these interim reviews to the Treasury in the middle of March. The two principal matters dealt with in the report are the target rate of profit for Government non-competitive contracts, and a study of the capital employed in these contracts.The review board recommended the target rate of profit be increased from the present 11 per cent. to 13 per cent. on capital employed in semi-CCA terms, with an assumed average CP/CE ratio of 2·35 to 1.On the question of capital employed, the board found that although there was not sufficient data to support the view that Government profit formula work generally required less capital than the contractors' other work, there were some significant divergencies in individual cases arising almost entirely from a small number of large and exceptional projects, both defence and non-defence. The board recommended that these divergencies should be addressed by negotiating more relevant units for the calculation of CP/CE ratios rather than by adjusting the target rate of return in the profit formula. Meanwhile, a transitional adjustment should be made to the average CP/CE ratio to avoid distortion by the exceptional projects referred to. Hence the observed ratio of 2·24 to 1 should be increased to 2·35 to 1.After careful consideration, and consultation with the negotiating committee of the CBI representing contractors, the Government accept in principle the board's main recommendation as to the treatment of the divergencies in capital employed and are examining with the contractors the practicalities. Meanwhile, however, it is essential that the overstatements of capital employed identified by the board should be fully reflected in the profit formula. This can only be done at present by a full adjustment of the target rate of profit affecting both the cost-based element and the capital-based element. Accordingly, the Government have decided to set the target rate of profit at 12 per cent. on capital employed on a semi-CCA basis, accompanied by the observed average of CP/CE ratio of 2·24 to 1. These new arrangements will be implemented with effect from 1 May 1985.Copies of the review board report have been placed in the Library.

The Arts

Museums And Galleries (Grants)

asked the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State answering in respect of the Arts if he will now publish in the Official Report the allocation between the various national museums and galleries of the £28·7 million maintenance and repair grant announced on 17 December 1984.

The provision of £28·7 million for building and maintenance work at the national museums and galleries in 1985–86 is met from the arts and libraries public expenditure programme. Responsibility for administering and carrying out the work rests with the Property Services Agency, on whose Vote the expenditure is shown.

The planned programme for 1985–86 comprises:

	£million
Expenditure on works already in progress	10
Expenditure on works planned for start in 1985–86	6·3
Expenditure on "bulk maintenance", fuel etc., PSA administration costs	12·4

The estimated expenditure in 1985–86 for building work borne on the PSA Vote for each of the national museums and galleries is as follows. The figures are an approximate indication of the expected levels of expenditure rather than a firm allocation of funds. They assume that both building works in hand and those planned to start in 1985–86 progress as originally envisaged. They include an element for "bulk maintenance" (minor maintenance work) but exclude spending on schemes shared between two or more museums, other current expenditure on heating, lighting, services and so on and PSA administration:

	£million
British Museum	2·8
Imperial War Museum	1·3
National Gallery	2·6
National Maritime Museum	1·9
National Portrait Gallery	0·7
Tate Gallery	1·8
Wallace Collection	0·1
Victoria and Alben Museum	5·8
Science Museum	2·8
Total	19·8

Education And Science

Suspension Of Pupils

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will list by authority the information he has as to the number of pupils who have been suspended from school, the average length of suspension and the maximum length of suspension for the most recent year for which figures are available.

Detailed statistics of pupils suspended from school are not collected centrally. Such information as the Department receives on suspensions in particular schools or in individual authorities is presented in a variety of forms and not on a basis whereby consistent comparisons can be made.

Academic Attainment

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) what studies have been made to compare the academic success of people from socio-economic groupings C and D post the reorganisation of secondary schools by comparison with that prior to reorganisation; and if he will make a statement;(2) what studies have been made of success in industry and commerce by people coming from the socio-economic groupings C and D

(a) since the secondary school reorganisation along comprehensive lines and (b) in the era of grammar schools, secondary modern and technical schools.

I am not aware of any studies which specifically address these questions, although reports of studies by the National Children's Bureau and the National Council for Educational Standards have included reference to the relationships between social class, selectivity and examinations results.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what research his Department is undertaking into the reasons for the nature of the correlations between the social class of parents and the educational attainment of their children.

There have been a number of studies demonstrating a strong statistical relationship between examination results and home background factors. There is also evidence of varying levels of attainment amongst children from similar home backgrounds. I announced last November, at columns 698–99, that I was willing to consider research proposals designed to explore those factors within the responsibility of the education service which affect educational attainment. It would be necessary to take into account significant factors such as social class which are external to the education service. The Department is currently considering proposals made in response to my statement.

Private Sector

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what steps his Department has taken in the past year in transferring responsibilities for education from the public to the private sector.

The Government recognise the important role played by the independent schools in enriching and increasing the diversity of the schools system. This was recently confirmed in chapter 12 of the White Paper "Better Scools" (Cmnd. 9469). The Department continues to support the assisted places scheme, whose purpose is to increase parental choice.The Department and others have been working with the Department of the Environment on proposals for the contracting out of local authority services, including school meals, cleaning of buildings and ground maintenance. A consultative document has been issued and it is intended to introduce legislation in the next Session which will require local authorities to put these services out to tender.

Further Education

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he is now able to publish the percentage of 16 and 17-years-olds who remained in full-time education in schools or further education colleges in September 1984 for England and for each local education authority area; and how this compares with each of the previous five years.

The proportions of the population aged 16 and 17 years remaining in full-time education in schools and colleges in England for the academic years 1979–80 to 1984–85 are as follows:

Percentage of population aged 16 or 17 in full-time education
	1979–80	1980–81	1981–82	1982–83	1983–84	1984–85 (provisional)
Aged 16	42	43	48	50	47	48
Aged 17	27	28	30	32	32	31

Comparable information for each local authority for the 1984–85 academic year will not be available until early autumn. As soon as these data become available they will be placed in the Library together with comparable figures for the earlier years.

Royal College Of Art

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will withhold funding from the Royal College of Art pending an inquiry into its proposals to close down the environmental media studies course.

No.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many other institutions offer a course comparable to the environmental media studies course at the Royal College of Art leading to an MA degree; and if he will make a statement.

I understand that there are no comparable courses in the United Kingdom.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he has had any communications with the Royal College of Art over the proposed closure of the environmental media studies course.

I met representatives of the Royal College of Art, including the rector, very shortly after the college had formally decided to undertake a major restructuring of its faculties, part of which involved the closure of the department of environmental media. They explained to me the reasons for the restructuring.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what representations he has had from students from the Royal College of Art over the proposed closure of the environmental media studies course.

We have received four letters in all: three from hon. Members writing on behalf of their constituents who are students at the college, and one signed by a number of the students themselves.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will seek an assurance from the rector of the Royal College of Art, Mr. Jocelyn Stevens, that the number and quality of the fine art courses and the number of students taking fine art courses will be maintained or enhanced when the existing professors of painting and sculpture retire.

My right hon. Friend does not determine the provision of courses at the Royal College of Art. However, he has appointed a visiting committee to advise him on questions relating to the development of the college and their financial implications. The next report of the committee will be submitted in the summer and is expected to comment on the college's plans for its various departments. In advance of the committee's advice, it would be inappropriate for me to express a view about the future balance of work within the college.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will withhold funds from the Royal College of Art pending an inquiry into whether Mr. Jocelyn Stevens is conducting the college (a) in accordance with its articles of government and (b) in accordance with appropriate academic standards.

No. The Royal College of Art is a self-governing institution within the terms of its Royal Charter.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will withhold funding from the Royal College of Art pending an inquiry into complaints about the conduct of the rector, Mr. Jocelyn Stevens.

No.

Deaf And Blind School Leavers

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many deaf and blind school leavers there were in each of the past two years; and what facilities were available for their further education.

The information about school leavers is not available. Where further education is appropriate, local education authorities may provide for young people with visual and hearing handicaps in thier own colleges; alternatively they may support their attendance at an independent institution offering specialist residential provision for these groups, often involving attendance at mainstream courses run by nearby local education authority colleges.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

United Kingdom-Iran (Diplomatic Representation)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what has been the outcome of the continuing discussions regarding United Kingdom diplomatic representation in Tehran and Iranian representation in London; and why Iran is still permitted to maintain an embassy in London while the United Kingdom is represented through the Royal Swedish embassy in Tehran.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the answer my hon. Friend the Member for Shoreham (Mr. Luce) gave him on 19 July 1984, at column 315. The discussions on the respective representation of the United Kingdom and Iran in London and Tehran continue, but there are no plans at present to modify the level of Iranian diplomatic representation in London.

Foreign Diplomats

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he will name the country of origin of any middle eastern dipomats who have been required to leave the United Kingdom or whom the police have arrested but not charged because of diplomatic immunity, for alleged serious criminal offences during the current year; and whether the heads of mission of the states in question were requested to insist upon acceptable standards of diplomatic behaviour from their staff in future.

The answer to the first part of the question is no. It would be inappropriate to name the country of origin or regional group of the alleged offenders, since their guilt has not been established in court.All heads of mission were made aware last year that we would in future expect and apply more stringent standards in respect of behaviour by the staffs of diplomatic missions. Specific guidance on this has now been issued to all diplomatic missions, as indicated in paragraph 68 of the Government report on "Diplomatic Immunities and Privileges" published on 23 April.

Iranian Embassy

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether the Iranian embassy sought any permission to display controversial political banners similar to the incident in the summer of 1983; and whether it has been made clear by his Department that no such banners will be acceptable to Her Majesty's Government.

No such permission has been sought from the Foreign and Commonwealth Office.The Iranian embassy is aware that the display of controversial political banners on its building is unacceptable to us.

Falkland Islands

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what information is available to him regarding the countries which are currently fishing off the Falklands; and what is the value of the fish caught.

Vessels entering the Falkland Islands protection zone are observed by Her Majesty's forces in the course of their routine patrolling and it is possible to identify those involved in fishing. Some information is also available to us from other sources, such as commercial enterprises and conservation bodies. It is not possible to put an accurate value on the catch, even if its precise size were known, because of fluctuating demand and price.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will give the total and employed population, respectively, of the Falkland Islands at the latest available date, distinguishing in each case between permanent and temporary residents and workers.

I am consulting the Civil Conmissioner and will write to the hon. Member.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth affairs if he will give the total amount of money spent by Her Majesty's Government on jobs, services and investment in the Falkland Islands over the past year.

It is not possible to give a disaggregated figure for expenditure by Her Majesty's Government on jobs, services and investment in the Falkland Islands in the financial year ending 31 March 1985. But it is estimated that a total sum of £6·5 million was spent on rehabilitation and development. In addition, £143 million was spent by the Property Services Agency on defence works services.

European Community

Council Of Ministers

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will publish in the Official Report a statement of forthcoming business in the European Community Council of Ministers.

The usual written forecast was deposited in the House earlier today (30 April). At present, nine meetings of the Council of Ministers are planned for May.The Agriculture Council is expected to meet on 2—5 May to continue discussion of the Commission's price proposals for 1985. Further meetings are scheduled for 13—15 May and, possibly, 20—21 May.The Internal Market Council is due to meet on 7 May to discuss the draft directives on the co-ordination of laws relating to self employed commercial agents; the rights of establishment of architects; the mutual recognition of qualifications and rights of establishment of pharmacists; and the easing of controls and formalities applicable to nationals of the member states when crossing intra-Community borders. There will be further discussion of the European standards initiative, especially in relation to technological harmonisation and standards. The Council will also consider the draft regulation to establish a European Economic interest grouping and the draft regulation laying down certain measures for the standardisation and simplification of the statistics of trade between member states. The Economic and Finance Council will meet on 13 May to discuss the implementation of budget discipline for the 1986 budgetary procedures; and a progress report on the proposed directive concerning the harmonisation of laws, regulations and administrative provisions in connection with Unit trusts. The Council may also consider proposals for harmonisation of the structure of duties on alcoholic drinks; and a compromise proposal for tax reliefs for travellers, for small private consignments and for fuel in tanks of commercial vehicles.A Consumer Affairs Council is expected to meet on 14 May. It is likely to discuss product liability; proposals for a Community information system on accidents involving consumer products, for a directive on consumer credit, and for a directive on consumer protection in connection with doorstep selling; and proposed amendments to directives on consumer protection in respect of unit price marking.The Foreign Affairs Council will meet on 20—21 May. The agenda may include the Community's policy towards its Mediterranean partners after enlargement in the light of the Council's declaration of 30 March 1985; and the Commission's negotiating mandate for an EC—Central America co-operation agreement.The Transport Council is due to meet on 23 May to discuss strategy for achieving a common transport policy; proposals on drivers hours and proposed transport infra-structure support.

The Co-operation and Development Council is expected to meet on 23 May to discuss the Community's response to the famine in Africa, including the long-term prevention of famine; a study on the cost effectiveness of Community food aid; and development projects to prevent specific problems, such as desertification. The Council may also consider the role of women in development; and preparations for the June ministerial meeting between the Community and the African Caribbean and Pacific states.

Northern Ireland

Herons

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what is his estimate of the number of herons; and if the number is declining.

Approximately 1,300 at the time of the last census in 1977. Counts at a small number of heronries since then indicate that the number has increased.

Employment

Community Programme

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what progress has been made on the plan to increase the size of the community programme.

Our aim is to complete the planned expansion of the community programme to 230,000 filled places by the end of May 1986. The Manpower Services Commission has been asked for its views on the best means to distribute available places and will be making a considered response as soon as possible. In the meantime, I have agreed with the Manpower Services Commission that it should seek to achieve by the end of December 1985 the following level of places:

Region	Target for December 1985
London	13,500
South East	15,700
South West	11,170
Midlands	32,640
Wales	12,610
North West	30,200
Scotland	24,880
Northern	18,000
Yorkshire and Humberside	21,300
	180,000

Trade Unions (Membership)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what information he has as to the proportion of the working population in membership of a trade union (a) in the public sector and (b) in the private sector.

Trade unions do not report the industrial classification of their membership to my Department. The available information, including a broad industrial breakdown, was given on pages 28–30 of the January 1985 issue of Employment Gazette, a copy of which is available in the Library.

Labour Statistics

asked the Secretary of State for Employment, what is the current level of unemployment in absolute terms and as a percentage of those available for work.

At 14 March 1985 the number of unemployed claimants in the United Kingdom was 3,267,592, representing an unemployment rate of 13·5 per cent.

Travel-To-Work Areas

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what studies his Department has carried out with regard to the travel-to-work areas into the possibility of a causal link between unemployment and length of journey to work.

The Department has carried out no studies into the relationship between the length of journeys to work in a travel-to-work area and the area's unemployment rate.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) in drawing up the travel-to-work areas, what consideration was given to the correlation between type of employment or location of residence and the level of unemployment in particular socio-economic groups;(2) how the direction of the hypothetical travel patterns of the unemployed in travel-to-work areas were determined by his Department;(3) in drawing up the travel-to-work areas, what consideration was given to the posibility that if jobs became available at a distance those currently employed would, in apparent contrast to others in their socio-economic groups, travel to them.

As is explained in the supplement published with the September 1984 edition of Employment Gazette, a copy of which is in the Library, the review of travel-to-work areas was based on analysis of the travel-to-work patterns observed in the 1981 Census of Population. The hypothetical travel patterns for the unemployed, which were incorporated into the analysis, were arrived at by assuming that the unemployed residents of a particular ward would have the same travel patterns as employed people of the same socio-economic group living in the same ward. Apart from this no account was taken of correlation between type of employment of location of residence and the level of unemployment in particular socio-economic groups, or of the possible effect on journey patterns (of the currently employed or unemployed) of new jobs possibly becoming available at any particular location.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment with regard to the travel-to-work areas, what is his Department's definition of socio-economic group.

The socio-economic groups are defined in appendix B2 of the Classification of Occupations 1980, a copy of which is in the Library. The review of travel-to-work areas used 18 groups including the subdivision of group 5 defined in the classification.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment, with regard to travel-to-work areas, what was the value of the calculations of the measure commuting links formula for (a) Silloth ward and the wards 2, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 and 13 of Carlisle proto travel-to-work area, (b) Silloth ward and the Aspatria-Ellen wards of Allerdale proto travel-to-work area, (c) Silloth ward and the Castle-Dalton-Netherhall-Northside-St. Michael's-Stainburn-Westfield wards of Allerdale proto travel-to-work area, (d) Waver Ward and the Wampool-Wigton wards of Allerdale proto travel-to-work area, (e) Waver ward and the Aspatria-Ellen wards of Allerdale proto travel-to-work and (f) Waver ward and the Castle-Dalton-Netherhall-Northside-St. Michael's-Stainburn-Westfield ward of Allerdale proto travel-to-work area.

The commuting links requested are as follows:Silloth ward and:—

(a) Wards 2, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 and 13 of Carlisle district: 0·00702

(b) Aspatria and Ellen wards: 0·00009

(c) Castle, Dalton, Netherhall, Northside, St. Michael's Stainburn and Westfield wards: 0·00010

Waver ward and:—

(d) Wampool and Wigton wards: 0·00014

(e) Aspatria and Ellen wards: 0·00006

(f) Castle, Dalton, Netherhall, St. Michael's Stainburn and Westfield wards: 0·0

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what studies his Department has conducted with regard to travel-to-work areas, into the possibility of a causal link between length of journey to work and socio-economic groups.

Table 4 of the workplace and transport-to-work volume of the 1981 Census of Population, a copy of which is in the Library, shows that members of certain socio-economic groups tend to travel further to work than members of other groups. The Manpower Services Commission has commissioned the centre for urban and regional development studies at Newcastle university to investigate the travel-to-work patterns of specific subgroups of the population, including some particular socio-economic groups.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment, in preparing the travel-to-work areas, in what ways the availability of public transport was considered.

The review of travel-to-work areas was based on analysis of the travel-to-work patterns observed in the 1981 Census of Population; these patterns reflect, amongst other things, the availability and use of public transport for journeys to work.

Youth Training Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for Employment to what factors he attributes the low percentage of young people of Asian and West Indian origin in Manpower Services Commission mode A schemes.

A number of different factors have been identified in research undertaken by the University of Bristol's school of advanced urban studies and by the Commission for Racial Equality which may account for a relatively low percentage of Asian and West Indian young people entering mode A of the youth training scheme. In order to ensure that its policy of equal opportunities is fully implemented the Manpower Services Commission has drawn upon the recommendations of the University of Bristol and the Commission for Racial Equality.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment, pursuant to his reply of 2 April, Official Report, columns 534–36, if he will publish the sources of the information given in table 2 (Destination of youth opportunity programme and youth training scheme trainees); if he will list as a percentage of the total number of people who have been on youth training schemes or youth opportunity programmes for each of the last five years the numbers of people who found work on completion of training schemes; if he will provide information on a regional basis about post youth training scheme employment rates; if the statistics of post youth training scheme employment are based on the response of ex-trainees; what steps he takes to satisfy himself of the accuracy of the information provided; and whether he will make a statement.

[pursuant to his reply, 29 April 1985, c. 43–44]: Information on the proportion of trainees finding employment following their youth opportunity programme or youth training scheme was given in table 2 of my earlier reply of 2 April at columns 534–36 The quarterly figures relating to the youth opportunities programme are derived from postal follow-up surveys of trainees, conducted 12 months after they joined the programme. Information on the youth training scheme comes from a regular monthly postal follow-up survey. A questionnaire is sent to 15 per cent, of ex-trainees some three months after they leave the scheme. The current survey has been carefully developed by the Manpower Services Commission through pilot work and is producing a consistent response rate of around 65 per cent. I am confident that the survey is providing the most reliable picture of what is happening to young people in the country as a whole after they leave the youth training scheme. However, I do accept that there will be marked regional variations. Information on a regional basis will be available by the end of May.

Personal Incomes

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will give the number of persons in work who have net incomes per week of less than (a) £70, (b) £100, (c) £120, (d) £150, (e) £200, and (f) over £200; and if he will state in each case what percentage of the total work force these numbers represent.

The latest information on the distribution of the net incomes of employed persons relates to the family expenditure survey for 1982. The table shows the cumulative percentages of those in full time employment with net incomes (gross personal income less tax and national income) below various amounts, and the cumulative percentages of the working population that these numbers represent:

Net incomes^below £*	Percentage of persons	Proportion of the working population†
70	25	15
100	56	33
120	73	43

Net incomes^below £*	Percentage of persons	Proportion of the working population†
150	87	52
200	96	57
200 and over^*	4	2
^* Gross income attributable to the person, both from employment or from other sources, net of national insurance and tax. This will differ from household income to the extent that full-time employees within the household are counted as separate persons, income from part-time employment is not covered and some household income, for example, child benefit may be attributed to a household member not in full-time employment.
†The proportion of persons in the survey who were full-time or part-time employees, self-employed, temporarily absent from work or out of a job. In 1982 the composition of the working population from the family expenditure survey was:

	Per cent.
Full-time employees	59
Part-time employees	20
Self employed	7
Employees temporarily absent	2
Out of a job	12
	100

Source: Family Expenditure Survey 1982.

Later information on the distribution of gross income from employment is available from table 1 of New Earnings Survey 1984, a copy of which is in the Library.

Wages Councils

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what representations he has received on the future of the wages councils.

My right hon. Friend and I have received a number of representations on the future of the wages councils systems.

Newspaper Industry (Disputes)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what information he has as to the number of days lost through industrial action in 1984 and to date in 1985 in the newspaper industry; and how these figures compare with each of the past five years.

The information is as follows:

Working days lost in the newspaper industry
	Number
1979	640,000
1980	128,000
1981	13,000
1982	15,000
1983	30,000
1984	^*27,000
†1985	^*21,000
^* Provisional estimate.
† January to March.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will detail in the Official Report all stoppages as a result of industrial disputes, and the national papers concerned, as notified to his Department during 1984 and to date in 1985.

The following stoppages as a result of industrial disputes involving national newspapers have been recorded.

Newspaper	Dates of dispute
	Start	End
1984
The Times	13 January	1 February
The Observer	26 May	26 May
Financial Times	5 July	5 July
The Guardian	9 July	9 July
The Sun	13 July	28 July
Daily Telegraph	11 October	11 October
1985
Daily Mail	31 January	8 February
The Guardian	11 February	11 February
Morning Star	16 February	16 February
The Sun	18 March	26 March

Industrial Air Pollution Inspectors

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many industrial air pollution inspectors, formerly alkali inspectors, were in post in each year since 1979.

The figures are:

Number of industrial air pollution (formerly alkali) inspectors in post at 1 January
	Number
1979	46
1980	48
1981	47
1982	46
1983	43
1984	40
1985	40

Training Programmes (Statistics)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what percentage of (a) able-bodied and (b) disabled people completing training opportunities programmes gained employment within three months of completing their course in 1983–84.

The results of the follow-up surveys of those who completed occupational courses under the training opportunities scheme in 1983–84 indicate that about 60 per cent. of ex-trainees were in employment three months after the end of the course. I regret that separate figures for able-bodied and disabled ex-trainees are not available.

Wages Inspectorate

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will publish, by region and sub-region, the latest breakdown of Wages Inspectorate staff, showing separately those who are outdoor inspectors, on an establishment and in post basis, and if he will also publish comparable figures for April 1979.

[pursuant to his reply, 4 April 1985, c. 782–84]: I regret that two errors appeared when my previous reply was printed in the Official Report.In the table at column 784, headed "Wages Inspectorate Staff, the figure for Midlands (W) under the heading "January 1985 staff in post" should have been printed at 6½ and not 7½. The figure for Northern, under the heading "September 1979—Staff-in-post", should be 6 and not 6½.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will publish estimates for 1984 on (a) establishments covered by wages councils, (b) numbers of inspections and underpayments, (c) numbers of workers covered, together with figures on underpayment and arrears assessed and (d) a regional breakdown of wages council inquiries, in the same format as that used in the reply given on 4 June 1984, Official Report, columns 103–4, together with a breakdown of arrears assessed and arrears actually paid by wages council and region; and whether he will also indicate the number and regional location of cases of unerpayment where the employer was prosecuted, and where civil proceedings were taken to recover arrears of wages.

[pursuant to his reply, 4 April 1985, c. 784–90]: I regret that a number of errors appeared when my previous reply was printed in the Official Report.At column 786, in the second table, the figure for retail bespoke tailoring, under the heading Scotland (East), should be 20 and not blank. The figure for licensed residential establishment and licensed restaurant, under the same heading, should be 2,434 and not 2,515. The figure for unlicensed place of refreshment, again under the same heading, should be 782 and not 282.At column 788, in the third table, the figure for London East, under the heading establishments visited, should

Social Services

Nhs (Leaflet)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what are the arrangements for distribution of the recent leaflet on the National Health Service based on the annual report on the Health Service in England and published by his Department; and how individuals and organisations may obtain copies.

Local distribution of copies of the leaflet within the Health Service was arranged by health authorities. Individuals and organisations may obtain copies free of charge from:

DHSS Store

Health Publications Unit

No. 2 Site

Manchester Road

HEYWOOD

Lancashire

OL19 2BZ

Supplementary Benefit

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many additional people are receiving supplementary benefit as a result of the real increase in scale rates since 1979.

I regret that the information requested by the hon. Member could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

Solvent Abuse

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he has commissioned any special studies into the nature of solvent abuse and the treatment and rehabilitation of those mis-using solvents.

We are funding three studies into solvent misuse. One project being carried out under the direction of Professor R. H. Anderson of the department of clinical epidemiology and social medicine, St. George's hospital medical school, is investigating the effects of various teenage activities, including solvent misuse, on their health and educational performance. We are also funding a data-collecting exercise to ascertain the numbers and causes of deaths from solvent misuse in the United Kingdom. Another small-scale exercise is being carried out by Ms. B. Levey at the Brighton drug dependency unit. Its purpose is to locate and describe the local population of substance misusers and to estimate the prevalence of misuse.

Community Care

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he intends to publish a White Paper in response to the Second Report of the Social Services Committee, Session 1984–85, on community care; and if he will make a statement.

We are still considering our response. The aim is to publish the response in May.

Charter For Children In Hospital

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what response he is making to the "Charter for Children in Hospital" produced by the National Association for the Welfare of Children in Hospital, a copy of which has been sent to him; and if he will make a statement.

We welcome this charter which reflects very well the principles underlying longstanding policies on the care of children in hospital. We recognise the considerable efforts the National Association for the Welfare Children in Hospital has put into agreeing the terms of the charter with the different professional groups concerned. We believe the charter will assist parents and staff to keep the best interests of children foremost in their minds.

Domestic Accidents (Statistics)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many people died from burns as a result of home accidents in the United Kingdom during 1984.

Information for the United Kingdom is not available in the exact form requested. However, the provisional number of deaths from accidents in the home caused by fire and flames (ICD(9) E890–E899), by explosive material (ICD(9)E923) and by hot substance or object, caustic or corrosive material and steam (ICD(9)E924) in the United Kingdom during 1984 is 850.

Family Holiday Association (Exhibition)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will arrange for an exhibition relating to the Family Holiday Association to be displayed in the Upper Waiting Hall.

I understand that arrangements have been made with the authorities of the House for the exhibition to be held in the Upper Waiting Hall from 7 to 10 May 1985.

Family Income Supplement

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what information he has as to the number of people in the county of Cheshire who are in receipt of family income supplement whilst in full-time employment in the Civil Service; and what Departments they are at present employed in.

I regret that the information is not available. Family income supplement claims are dealt with by one centre at Blackpool; no information is maintained about claims from particular local areas and civil servants are included for statistical purposes in a broad occupational group which includes clerical and office workers, administrators, social, professional and technical workers.

Deaf Blind People

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) how many people identified as being deaf and blind have additional disabilities; and if he will list the resources and special facilities provided to meet their needs;(2) how many deaf and blind children there are of school age.

Information is not centrally available in the form requested. However, the Department's publication "Registered Blind and Partially Sighted Persons at 31 March 1982 (England)" contains information, by age band, on people registered blind with additional handicap, including hearing impairments. A copy is in the Library.The provision of services for disabled people is primarily a responsibility of health and local authorities. The Department does not routinely collect specific information about resources and facilities provided for particular client groups such as those who are deaf-blind.The work of voluntary organisations with deaf-blind people is of particular importance, and last year the Department gave grants totalling £35,754 towards voluntary activities in this field.

Mental Handicap Registers

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many and which health authorities have instituted, or are planning, mental handicap registers; and what guidelines are provided for their design, scope and function.

The Department does not collect information on the number of mental handicap registers. However, the replies to a letter sent to authorities in 1983 as part of an Economic and Social Research Council funded survey of registers showed that 54 health authorities (and 44 social services departments) in England and Wales had registers and a further 96 health authorities (and 45 social services departments) were involved in planning them.^* The Department has not issued guideline on the design, scope or function of registers and has take the view that these are matters for local decision. On it visits to individual authorities the National Development Team for Mentally Handicapped People encourages the establishment and proper maintenance of registers and, if appropriate, includes advice on these matters in its report to authorities. We are considering the recommendation in the recently published report of the Social Service Committee on community care with special reference adult mentally ill and mentally handicapped people the local and health authorities should be encouraged by the Department to develop together appropriate registers of mentally disabled people.

^* Report of a National Survey of Registers of Mentally Handicapped People, by J. E. Cubbon and N. A. Malin, published April 1985 and available from Sheffield City Polytechnic.

Child Benefit

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many updated child benefit books Dundee, East and West areas have still to be issued by the child benefit centre following the recent industrial action

There is no record of the geographical distribution of beneficiaries awaiting replacement child benefit order books. The issue of replacement books is rapidly returning to normal after the recent industrial action.

Life Expectancy

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the current average life expectancy at birth for women and men in (a) Mid Glamorgan, (b) Wales and (c) England.

The most recent available estimate of the expectation of life for England and Wales separately are based on mortality data for 1977 and are as follows:

Expectation of Life at Birth
	Males	Females
England	70·0	76·0
Wales	69·0	74·9

Separate figures for Mid Glamorgan are not available. More recent estimates for England and Wales separately are due to be calculated later this year.

Mortality Statistics

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many people on average have died (a) before the age of 60 years and (b) at 60 years and above of chest-related illnesses in: (i) England and (ii) Wales, in each year since 1979.

I shall let the hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.

Drug Testing

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he expects to issue the revised guidance from the Royal College of Physicians and the Association of British Pharmaceutical Industries relating to the testing of drugs on healthy volunteers; how often the working group on this matter has met; from whom it sought evidence; and what was the representation of each body on the working group.

The Royal College of Physicians set up a working party on medical research on healthy volunteers in 1984. I am informed by the college that it hopes to publish the working party's report as guidance to the profession in the autumn. I understand that the working party has meet nine times so far and has taken written evidence from many sources as well as oral evidence from professors of clinical pharmacology and toxicology and from representatives of the pharmaceutical industry; clinical research units; the Trades Union Congress; the Faculty of Occupational Medicine; the National Union of Students; the Health and Safety Executive; and our Department's medicines division. The working party is chaired by Sir Raymond Hoffenberg, President of the Royal College of Physicians. It consists of members and fellows of the Royal College, including a representative of the Association of British Pharmaceutical Industry; a lawyer; the Chairman of the Patients' Association; and an observer representing the Medical Research Council. When the revised professional guidance is available, we shall consider carefully, in the light of advice from the Medicines Commission on it, what our attitude should be.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what information he has as to the number of deaths or serious side-effects that have occurred in each of the last five years amongst healthy volunteers taking part in the testing of drugs by the pharmaceutical industry;(2) what information he has as to the number of healthy volunteers in each of the last five years who have taken part in the testing of new drugs by the pharmaceutical industry.

We do not collect this information.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services to what extent his Department's guidelines on drug testing require pharmaceutical companies to test drugs on animals before tests using healthy human volunteers are conducted; and if he will make a statement.

Our Department's guidelines on drug testing apply only to medicines for patients and not to tests on healthy human volunteers.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will seek powers to require drug companies testing new drugs on healthy volunteers to report adverse reactions to his Department; and if he will take steps to ensure that these reactions and those suffered by patients taking part in clinical trials are included in the register of adverse reactions.

I have nothing to add to my replies to the right hon. Member on 12 June and 26 June 1984 at columns 416 and 462.

Heart Disease

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many people die of heart disease in (a) Wales and (b) England per 1,000 population.

The information is shown in the table.

Crude mortality rate per 1,000 population all ages for heart disease (ICD (9th rev.) 393–429) for (a) Wales (b) England, males and females 1984
	Rate
	Males	Females
Wales	4·56	3·64
England	4·08	3·40

Health Statistics

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the ratio of (a) hospital beds and (b) qualified nurses per head of population in (i) Wales and (ii) England.

In 1983, the latest year for which information is available, there were on average 7·3 beds available daily in National Health Service hospitals per thousand population in England and 8 in Wales. On 30 September 1983 there were 4·77 qualified nursing and midwifery staff (excluding agency staff) whole-time equivalent per thousand population in England and 5·35 in Wales.

Cervical Cancer

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will estimate the cost of computerising the cervical cancer smear test scheme for the whole of the United Kingdom;(2) how many and which area health authorities have proposed to install computerised cervical cancer smear test scheme; and how many and in which areas such schemes have been approved.

[pursuant to his reply, 15 April 1985, c. 89]: My right hon. Friends the Secretaries of State are responsible for cervical cancer screening in Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.In England, district health authorities are responsible for cervical cancer screening programmes. These can be carried out in a number of ways, with or without a computer, and we hold central records only of the number of family practitioner committees using computers for cervical cytology recall or call as an agency arrangement for district health authorities. The following 37 FPCs—corresponding in area to 79 district health authorities—are known to be using computers for this purpose now or to have firm plans to do so. Other district health authorities may be using computers based at laboratories for recall schemes.The cost of installing computers and record conversion to operate cervical cytology recall and call in all remaining FPCs in England would be around £4 million. This figure does not include operational costs, including the costs of taking cervical smears, examining them and follow-up action. I refer the right hon. Member to my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Staffordshire, Moorlands (Mr. Knox) on 29 April for the action we are asking district health authorities to take on cervical screening.

FPCs in England known to be using computers for cervical cytology call or recall or with firm plans to do so
Avon	Bromley
Barking and Havering	Buckinghamshire
Bedfordshire	Calderdale

Cleveland	Manchester
Cornwall and Isles of Scilly	Norfolk
Coventry	North Tyneside
Croydon	Northamtonshire
Derbyshire	Northumberland
Devon	Nottinghamshire
Dorset	Rochdale
Durham	Rotherham
Gloucestershire	Sandwell
Hampshire	Staffordshire
Hereford and Worcester	Stockport
Isle of Wight	Suffolk
Kent	Warwickshire
Kirklees	Wigan
Leicestershire	Wiltshire
Liverpool

Social Workers

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what consultations he is having with local authorities and the Central Counil for Education and Training in Social Work concerning proposals to revise the system of training and assessment of approved social workers as defined by the Mental Health Act 1983;(2) if he will undertake to provide additional funds for any extra training or assessment costs falling upon local authorities or the Central Council for Education and Training in Social Work arising from the revised system of training approved social workers which takes account of problems resulting from the current industrial action;(3) what is his estimate of the expenditure incurred by local authorities in training approved social workers under the Mental Health Act 1983.

[pursuant to his reply, 16 April 1985 c. 162]: While we are not currently consulting on proposals to revise the training and assessment of approved social workers (ASWs), we are keeping in close touch with the Central Council for Education and Training in Social Work (CCETSW) and the local authority associations on the recommendations made in the joint working party's report last year. We hope that the integrated training and assessment system recommended in that report will be implemented successfully.We do not collect information centrally on which to base an estimate of local authorities' expenditure on the training of ASWs. This training is part of authorities' normal programmes which have always been adjusted to cover detailed changes in services. The 1983 Act did not represent new duties for LAs, and authorities that were meeting properly their responsibilities under the previous legislation need not have incurred any significant increase in their costs. Any net additional expenditure would in any case have been covered by the provision in the 1983–84 rate support grant settlement to reflect new initiatives and pressures on the personal social services.We have already increased the CCETSW budget in recent years because of the additional work load created by the ASW provisions. The increase allowed for spending of up to £200,000 in 1983–84, and £300,000 in each of 1984–85 and 1985–86. We shall continue to make any necessary additional financial support available to the council during the introduction of the new training arrangements.

Health And Personal Social Services

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services why "Health and Personal Social Services Statistics for England" was not published in 1979, 1980, 1981, 1983 or 1984 and if there are any plans to publish it in 1985 or subsequent years.

[pursuant to his reply, 25 April 1985 c. 557]: The 1978 edition of "Health and Personal Social Services Statistics for England" was published in 1980. Subsequently, the publication was put on an ad hoc, rather than annual, basis and a volume was published in 1982. The possibility of further publications in this series is under consideration. The formal volumes of statistics produced by the Department have recently been complemented by the introduction of "Statistical Bulletins," four of which have been published to date. These allow a particular topic area to be covered in greater depth than is practicable in a volume of statistics such as "Health and Personal Social Services Statistics".

Defence

Falkland Islands

14.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the latest estimate available to him for the cost of the Falklands operations to be met by his Department for 1985–86 and 1986–87, respectively.

Our latest estimate of costs is in line with the provision of £552 million and £450 million respectively, which was announced in "The Government's Expenditure Plans for 1985–86 to 1987–88"—(Cmnd. 9428).

27.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how long the Falklands airport took to build; at what cost to his Department's budget; what will be its principal military functions; and if he will make a statement.

42.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement concerning the most recent increase in the cost to his Department of Mount Pleasant airfield.

Construction of the Mount Pleasant airport and associated facilities began on 31 December 1983, six months after the instruction to proceed was given to the contractors. The main runway has now been completed and we will start to make limited use of it in May. The remaining airport facilities will be ready for use by about February 1986. The further construction work at Mount Pleasant, which consists largely of facilities for the Army, should be complete in early 1987.I am advised by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment that the latest cost for the airport is £276 million and that for the facilities for the Army at Mount Pleasant is £119 million.The principal military functions of the airport will be to provide a base from which air defence and reconnaissance aircraft can operate as well as wide-bodied transport aircraft required for the rotation of the garrison, and, in emergency, for rapid reinforcement.

Greenham Common

16.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many complaints he has received about American military personnel handcuffing British citizens at Greenham common.

I am not aware of any such formal complaints having been received by my Department.

19.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he is satisfied with the amenities provided for British forces guarding the base at Greenham Common.

The conditions and amenities for the personnel at RAF Greenham Common are generally satisfactory. Personnel permanently stationed there are accommodated in quarters of the normal standard and have access to many of the US amenities on the base, including sports and recreational facilities. Those on short-term postings are housed in temporary accommodation of a reasonable standard. They have a range of amenities available to them as well as access to certain of the US facilities such as the gymnasium.

Indonesia

17.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on Government policy regarding arms sales to Indonesia.

It has always been, and will remain, the Government's policy to exercise strict control over the sale of arms. Each potential sale is considered on its merits on a case by case basis. Any proposals to sell defence equipment to Indonesia, as with any other country, are subject to detailed examination before an export licence is granted.

Cruise Missiles

20.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he is satisfied with the security of cruise missile convoys when on exercise.

Yes, but security precautions always remain under review.

30.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he is satisfied with the security of ground-launched cruise missile bases.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to the hon. Member for Liverpool, Garston (Mr. Loyden) earlier today.

43.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on liaison between his Department and the police in relation to military exercises involving cruise missile convoys.

There is a close and regular liaison between my Department and the police on such matters.

Strategic Defence Initiative

21.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will make a statement on the implications of the strategic defence initiative for the deterrence theory on Her Majesty's Government's policy of deterrence.

24.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what implications the strategic defence initiative has for the Government's reliance on the theory of deterrence.

As my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister made clear in the statement issued after her meeting with President Reagan on 22 December 1984, the overall aim of the strategic defence initiative is to enhance deterrence, the maintenance of which is central to the security of NATO.

26.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence when he expects to be able to announce whether the United Kingdom intends to devote resources to research on a strategic defence initiative.

I refer the hon. Member to the answer given by my right hon. Friend the Minister of State for Defence Procurement to my hon. Friend the Member for Ynys Mon (Mr. Best) on 5 March 1985.

29.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if, in considering his response to the invitation by the United States Government of participation by North Atlantic Treaty Organisation countries in the research programme for the strategic defence initiative, he will propose examination of the percentage of missiles destroyed which would be satisfactory.

This is a question for consideration in the longer term. The United States initiative relates to participation in a research programme only.

33.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what implications the strategic defence initiative has for the Trident programme.

44.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if the strategic defence initiative will affect the Trident programme.

I refer the hon. Members to the answer I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Houghton and Washington (Mr. Boyes).

35.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is his Department's present policy on the strategic defence initiative.

The Government's policy on the United States strategic defence initiative was set out in the statement issued by the Prime Minister following her meeting with President Reagan on 22 December 1984.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what discussions he has had with other European Governments about participating in the United States strategic defence initiative research programme; and if he will make a statement.

The Government are now considering a response to the invitation from the United States Secretary of Defence to indicate areas of research within the SDI programme in which the United Kingdom would be interested in participating. We are naturally in close touch with all our allies on all aspects of this important subject. Most recently, the subject was discussed at the WEU ministerial meeting in Bonn. A copy of the communiqué from that meeting is in the Library of House.

Nuclear Warheads

22.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the average safe shelf life of British nuclear warheads.

British nuclear warheads are designed to be safe and serviceable. Their planned withdrawal from service for inspection and periodic maintenance ensures that this aim is met.

Privatisation

23.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what are the current estimated savings by his Department for 1984–85 as a result of privatisation schemes.

No private capital has been introduced during the year into any organisation which is the responsibility of my Department. However, the royal ordnance factories were established as a public limited company from the beginning of this year and privatisation is planned to take place in due course; the options for the royal dockyards at Devonport and Rosyth are still under consideration, as was announced in the House on 17 April.

Advertising And Recruiting Costs

25.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what are, and if he is satisfied with, the proportions of the costs of his Department relating to tri-service and individual service advertising and recruiting.

Recruiting costs, including advertising, are financed on a single service basis. However expenditure on service recruiting for the financial year 1983–84 totalled £44·6 million at outturn prices. Advertising and publicity costs made up some £9 million of this total, or about 20 per cent. of the recruiting budget. Estimated total expenditure on recruiting for financial year 1984–85 at outturn prices is £48·5 million, of which about £12·6 million was spent on advertising and publicity or 26 per cent. of the recruiting budget.

Tornado Aircraft

28.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement about future orders for Tornado.

My Department is currently considering the number and timing of any further orders and a decision should be taken in the next few months. There are a number of export prospects and the Government will continue to support the efforts of British Aerospace in pursuing these.

Royal Navy

31.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he is satisfied that his current replacement and new ordering programme is large enough to ensure that the Royal Navy has a minimum of 50 frigates and destroyers in the front line, as envisaged in the 1984 White Paper (Cmnd. 9227).

I can confirm that ordering arrangements for new ships will be related to the Government's aim to maintain a force level of about 50 front line destroyers and frigates in the longer term as stated in Cmnd. 9227.

Ulster Defence Regiment

32.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement about discipline and morale in the Ulster Defence Regiment.

The same high standards of discipline are set in the Ulster Defence Regiment as in any other regiment of the British Army. The morale of the Ulster Defence Regiment is high.

Raf Upper Heyford (Noise Tests)

34.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make sufficient staff time available to enable the Royal Air Force Institute of Community Medicine to publish as quickly as possible the results of the recent noise tests at RAF Upper Heyford.

Yes.

Wessex And Puma Helicopters

36.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence when he will award the contract for the replacement of the Royal Air Force Wessex and Puma helicopters, air staff target 404.

As I said in my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Wells (Mr. Heathcoat-Amory) on 26 March 1985 at column 207, the Army's requirement for a light support helicopter is being reviewed, and decisions on AST 404 will remain in abeyance until the review is complete.

Overseas Allowances

37.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) if he will make a statement concerning cuts in service allowances for personnel serving overseas;(2) if he will make a statement concerning cuts in the living allowance for overseas service men.

I refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Littleborough and Saddleworth (Mr. Dickens) earlier today.

Nuclear Weapons

38.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence why information about the numbers of nuclear weapons held by Britain is not published.

Some information about the nuclear capabilities of British defence forces is published. For example, I refer the hon. Member to chapter 4 (paragraphs 402–406) of the 1984 Statement on the Defence Estimates. However, successive Governments have declined, for reasons of security, to give details of numbers of warheads.

Falkland Islands (Air Service Contract)

39.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether British Airways has now been awarded the contract for conveying service personnel to the Falkland Islands.

I cannot at present add to the reply that I gave to the hon. Member for Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley (Mr. Foulkes) on 17 April at columns 211–12.

Defence Equipment

40.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is his policy for ensuring better control of stocks of defence equipment held by his Department and of contracts for the supply of new and replacement stocks.

My Department has in hand a comprehensive appraisal of the levels and methods by which stockholdings are determined and various improvements, to an already very carefully controlled area, have been recommended. These improvements will involve refinements to costing techniques using through-life costing principles, refinement of ADP systems, increased use of direct supply, further rationalisation and the introduction of executive responsibility budgets.

Raf Molesworth

41.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many people have been arrested by military police for damaging the fence surrounding RAF Molesworth.

Up to midnight on 18/19 April, 106 people had been arrested by the Ministry of Defence police at RAF Molesworth for criminal damage. Of those arrested, 81 have so far been charged; all of these charges are in respect of damage to the perimeter fence.

Arms Manufacturers

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement concerning his recent discussions with arms manufacturers in Europe.

Apart from his regular and continuing discussions with British industry, my right hon. Friend's only recent discussions with representatives of European defence industries have been with Dassault and on these I have nothing to add to the answer he gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Preston (Mr. Thorne).

Defence Establishment, Shoeburyness (Contracts)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the implications of putting contracts out to tender at the defence establishment at Shoeburyness following the official visit by the Under-Secretary of State on 28 March.

We have invited tenders to carry out at the proof and experimental establishment, Shoeburyness, the support functions listed in my answer to my hon. Friend on 15 November 1984 at column 344. The implications of an acceptable response is that these support functions, which are currently carried out by civil service and military personnel, will be undertaken by a contractor from 1 April 1986. By this means we expect to maintain and enhance the efficiency of the establishment and the effectiveness of its support to the defence procurement programme and at the same time release military staff for active duty elsewhere.

Army Regimental Pay And Manning And Record Offices

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he has plans to disperse the Army regimental pay and manning and record offices on to two sites.

Yes; Government proposals to concentrate these offices on to two sites at Glasgow and Leicester have been the subject of consultation with interested parties for some three months.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence for what reason the co-located offices in Imphal barracks, York, have been excluded from consideration as one of the sites for the relocated Army regimental pay and manning and record offices.

Imphal barracks, York, was not excluded. It was covered by the PSA survey of sites but was considered to be less suitable than other sites available.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the estimated minimum cost of the required new building at Leicester if the Army regimental pay and manning and record offices are re-located there and at Glasgow.

Between £5 million and £6 million.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will estimate the sale value of the Leicester site currently used for Army regimental pay and manning and record purposes.

About £700,000.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many redundancies would occur from the York Army regimental pay and manning and record offices establishment in York if the proposals in his consultation document were implemented without amendment; if he will categorise them; what cost would be involved; and if he will make a statement.

It is not possible at this stage to say what the position would be in regard to redundancies amongst staff at any particular site that might be vacated, including York. There are a number of pre-redundancy measures that my Department would take in an effort to minimise any need for compulsory redundancies.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what additional sites were considered in York, and what estimates were made of their respective costs, prior to the issue of the consultation document on the Army regimental pay and manning and record offices' relocation.

Only Imphal barracks which is an existing MRO/RPO site was considered in York. There are no alternative Ministry of Defence sites available in York that would be suitable.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will reconsider York as one of the relocated Army regimental pay and manning and record offices; and if he will make a statement.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply given by my hon. Friend to the hon. Member for Kingston upon Hull, North (Mr. McNamara) on 25 April at column 519.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what representations he has received advocating the retention of York as one of the relocated sites of the Army regimental pay and manning and record offices; what response he has made; and if he will make a statement.

I have received a delegation led by the hon. Member in addition to a number of letters from interested parties. These are being evaluated and I hope to be able to make an announcement about the Government's plans for the pay, manning and record offices by the end of May or early June.

Imphal Barracks, York

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he has decided to use surplus office accommodation within Imphal barracks, York, by an infantry division: and if he will make a statement.

A final decision has yet to be taken by Ministers on the proposals to relocate the Army manning and record and pay offices. All reasonable and sensible alternative uses for those sites vacated will be considered.

Armed Forces (Pay And Allowances)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will list the basic pay and allowances of a soldier in the Devonshire and Dorset Regiment holding the rank of major, lieutenant, sergeant or private while stationed in either Northern Ireland, England, West Germany or Gibraltar.

The information is given in the following two tables for the ranks of personnel requested. Basic pay is the same wherever soldiers serve. The figures for pay quoted are the maximum and minimum daily rates of pay for male officers and soldiers. The maximum rates for soldiers include the highest level of length of service increment payable. In addition, personnel serving in Northern Ireland receive Northern Ireland pay, which is £2·15 per day for all ranks.

Table 1
	£ per day
	Maximum	Minimum
Major	46·89	39·13
Lieutenant	27·27	24·67
Sergeant	29·35	22·91
Private	21·52	12·87

Most allowances payable to Service personnel vary according to their personal circumstances and are not determined by where they are serving. Local overseas allowance is, however, and the second table shows the daily rate payable for the ranks requested on 29 April 1985. The allowance is paid in pounds sterling and may vary with exchange rates. West Berlin has also been included.

Table 2
	Major	L'tenant	Sergeant	Private
Germany (excluding Berlin)
Single	3·91	2·30	2·27	1·47
Married plus one
child	7·44	5·66	5·50	4·21
Germany^ (including Berlin) from 1 August 1985*
Single	1·95	1·19	0·78	0·56
Married plus one
child	6·37	4·89	5·16	4·01
Berlin
Single	3·73	2·35	2·20	1·48
Married plus one
child	7·14	5·31	5·07	3·80
Gibraltar
Single	Nil	Nil	Nil	Nil
Married plus one
child	6·47	5·33	4·79	4·21
^* Rates to be implemented from 1 August 1985 may change with exchange rate variations.

Lance Weapon

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement about the development of Lance as a conventional weapon.

Lance is an American weapon, which may be used with either a nuclear or a conventional warhead. The United Kingdom has no plans to develop or use the weapon in its conventional role.

Nimrod Aircraft

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will make a statement on the development of the Nimrod aircraft.

Development work is continuing. We are still investigating various options for the further work necessary to bring the project to completion.

Volume 78: debated on Tuesday 30 April 1985

Written Answers To Questions

Attorney-General

"Mi5's Official Secrets"

Juvenile Courts

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Herons

Fruit And Vegetables

Farm Holdings (Payments)

Common Agricultural Policy

Farmed Deer

Captive Bolt Pistols

Green Top Milk

Milk Quotas

Pigmeat Storage

Wales

Private Cars And Telephones

Road Schemes

Consultants

A470 (Improvements)

Chest Specialists

Home Department

Community Radio

Police (Dismissals)

Electoral Reform

Benzodiazepine Drugs

Deportation

Prime Minister

Far East (Visit)

Nuclear Weapons

British Council

Security Services

Departmental Salaries

Social Services Departments (Salaries)

Ve Day

Engagements

Fontainebleau Summit

Australian Royal Commission

Nuclear Trigger Devices (Testing)

School Leavers

Member's Correspondence

Rates (Review)

Environment

"The Glory Of The Garden"

Felixstowe Dock And Railway Bill

Rates

Housing Starts (London)

Crisis Management

Local Authorities (Overtime)

Leicestershire (Financial Aid)

Council House Sales

Falkland Islands (Airport)

Rate Support Grant

Scotland

Toll Charges

Herons

Rates

Police (Misconduct)

Job Creation (Greenock)

Energy

Lead In Petrol

Brown Book

Trade And Industry

Swops Project

United States Telecommunications Companies

Video Cassette Recorders

United States (High Technology Exports)

Origin Marking

Transport

Helicopters

Road Accidents

Okehampton Bypass

Consultants

Motor Cyclists

Pilots (Redundancy Pay)

National Finance

Revenue Yield

Personal Taxation

Covenants