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Written Answers

Volume 86: debated on Thursday 11 July 1985

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Written Answers To Questions

Thursday 11 July 1985

Education And Science

Teachers' Salaries

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will publish figures to show the percentage increase in teachers' salaries in cash and real terms (a) from the implementation of the Houghton award to April 1979, (b) from the implementation of the Houghton award to April 1984, (c) from April 1979 to April 1984 and (d) from April 1979 to April 1985,

Per cent.
Cash termsReal terms
(1)(2)(3)(4)
SettlementsAverage salariesSettlementsAverage salaries
(a) from Houghton to April 19796579-18-11
(b) from Houghton to April 1984181221-15-3
(c) from April 1979 to April 1984707949
(d) from April 1979 to April 1985788928

Notes:

1. Columns (1) and (3) give the cumulative increase in pay levels as measured by annual settlements, compounded year on year. Column (1) is in cash terms. Column (3) is adjusted to reflect changes in the RPI during the periods in questions.

2. Columns (2) and (4) give average salary increases calculated from the annual count of teachers by scales and incremental points. The figures exclude heads and deputy heads. Column (2) is in cash terms. Column (4) is adjusted to reflect RPI changes.

3. The average salary figures reflect actual changes in salary levels arising from annual pay settlements, incremental drift caused by an ageing teacher force during a time of low recruitment-falling rolls, increasing proportions of senior posts because of higher staying on rates and so on. It is not possible to separate out the effect of incremental increases for the individual teacher.

4. The base for calculating the increases incorporates the results of the Houghton report and the April 1979 pay settlement. For (a) and (b) the base incorporates the effects of a negotiated settlement of 8 per cent. from 1 April 1974 plus an additional 27 per cent. recommended by the Houghton committee taking effect from 24 May plus the further 2 per cent. which the committee's settlement was estimated to be worth.

5. In extrapolating the figures to 1985 (Section (d)), 5 per cent. has been taken as the settlement increase, and in addition the average salary figures assume 0·6 per cent. for salary drift.

Geriatric Medicine

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many post-graduate students are at present studying geriatric medicine in Scottish universities.

Ethnic Minority Teachers

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how he intends to pursue the possibility of establishing acceptable arrangements for collecting and using ethnically based statistics on teachers and students in initial training.

Following up our interest in increasing the supply of suitable teachers of ethnic minority origin, and an undertaking made in response to the Swann report, my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Wales and I have today issued a discussion paper concerning the collection of ethically based statistics on teachers and students in teacher training. It is proposed that a working group of the local authority associations,

assuming payment of the award currently offered by teachers' employers, in each case both allowing for and not allowing for incremental rises.

[pursuant to his reply, 8 July 1985, c. 352]: Details of percentage increases in teachers' salaries in cash and real terms for the periods requested are as follows:the Churches, the teachers' associations, and the Commission for Racial Equality should be established to look at the issues in more detail, concentrating initially on statistics on serving teachers. Comments from a wider audience will be welcome and will be made known to the working group. Copies of the discussion paper are being placed in the Libraries of both Houses.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what consultations have taken place with the education service and the ethnic minorities on ways of increasing the supply of ethnic minority teachers.

My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Wales and I have today followed up an undertaking made in response to the Swann report, and have issued a discussion paper concerning measures to increase the proportion of the teacher force drawn from the ethnic minorities, without any reduction in the required level of qualification. Copies of the document are being placed in the Libraries of both Houses. Ethnic minority groups, and interested parties both within and outside the education service, are being asked to submit comments by 31 October, and comments will be welcome on the same timescale from any individual or organisation not specifically consulted. Further discussions may then be required to determine the most appropriate way forward.

Church Commissioners

St Winifred's Church, Birkenhead

asked the hon. Member for Wokingham, as representing the Church Commissioners, whether there are any paid Church of England clergy at St. Winifred's church, Birkenhead.

The Commissioners do not pay a stipend to any clergyman at St. Winifred's church, Birkenhead. They understand that the church is served by a clergy pensioner. The Commissioners provide the funds from which clergy pensions are paid.

asked the hon. Member for Wokingham, as representing the Church Commissioners, whether the Church Commissioners have paid any funds to St. Winifred's church, Birkenhead, during the past 10 years.

It would not appear so, but there has only been a restricted time in which to consult records.

Wales

Roads

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will analyse, for the most recently available 12-month period, the expenditure undertaken by his Department on each of the trunk roads in Wales, analysing such spending between routine maintenance and improvement and indicating the total length in miles of each of these trunk roads.

In 1984–85 our Department spent £93 million on new construction and improvement of trunk roads in Wales, and £12 million on their general maintenance. An attribution of this expenditure to each trunk road could be provided only at disproportionate cost, but information about the expenditure on major trunk road improvement schemes during 1984–85 is given in table I to class XVI, vote I, of the Supply Estimates for that year. (HCP 292—XVI).

Oil Spillage (Compensation)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will make funds available to maritime district councils along the Cambrian coast to compensate them for exceptional expenditure incurred as a result of recent oil spillage in the Irish Sea.

Compensation for all reasonable oil pollution clean-up costs related to a spillage at sea by an identified tanker is available through international regimes. Affected local authorities should submit claims to the insurers as promptly as possible. The question of Government funds to meet exceptional expenditure does not therefore arise.

School Meals And Milk

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how much was spent per pupil in secondary schools in Wales on school meals and milk in the most recent year for which figures are available; and how this compares with the figure for 1978–79, at constant prices.

Transport

Aircraft Noise

asked the Secretary of State for Transport (1) what plans he has to review the standards for assessing aircraft noise nuisance and in particular for extending the noise preferential routes beyond their present altitude limits of 4,000 ft from Heathrow and 3,000 ft from Gatwick;(2) whether he will review the definitions of aircraft noise intrusion so at to take account of severe and continuous noise intrusion from aircraft movements above 4,000 ft.

I can assure my right hon. Friend that the assessment of aircraft noise nuisance is kept under review. With the progressive introduction of quieter types, levels of noise disturbance created by aeroplanes have been and will continue to be reduced. Although I accept that there are differing views about the altitudes at which aircraft noise ceases to be regarded as unduly intrusive, I have no plans to extend the noise preferential routes at Heathrow or Gatwick beyond their present limits.

Aircraft Movements

asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether he will put forward proposals to the Civil Aviation Authority for variations in standard instrument depature routes so as to avoid prolonged periods of bunching of aircraft movements over specific communities.

No. Although I appreciate that some communities experience more aircraft noise disturbance than others, I am satisfied that the present route structure represents the best balance that can be achieved by the Civil Aviation Authority in fulfilment of its various responsibilities, which include a requirement to take full account of disturbance to the public.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what discussions he has held with the Civil Aviation Authority concerning the current routeing structure for aircraft movements at Heathrow and Gatwick; and whether, in the light of noise disturbance, he will put forward proposals for operating the structure on a rotational basis.

My officials hold regular discussions with the Civil Aviation Authority and the National Air Traffic Services about these matters. To seek to change the present operational structure in the way that my right hon. Friend suggests would place an unacceptable capacity constraint on Heathrow and Gatwick.

Built-Up Areas (Painted Lines)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will consider seeking to require coloured lines to be painted in the middle of roads in built-up areas in order to indicate to drivers that they are driving in built-up areas, during hours of darkness.

No. Coloured lines would be less conspicuous than the present white ones and differentiation between colours would be very difficult, especially with the lighting systems in current use.

Crediton (Bypass)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what action is being taken to bypass Crediton.

This is a matter for Devon county council, which is the highway authority responsible for the A377 principal road through Crediton.

North Devon Link Road

asked the Secretary of State for Transport when he expects construction of the next section of the North Devon link road to commence.

As with all road schemes, progress is dependent on completion of the statutory processes. We will announce start dates for each of the remaining stages as soon as possible.

Driving Test

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what is the average waiting time for a car driving test in England; and how this compares with Northampton.

The waiting time for a car driving test in Northampton is about 17 weeks, which is one week less than the average waiting time for England and Wales.

London Transport (Fraud)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport how much was lost as a result of fraud on London Transport for 1982 and 1983 and on London Regional Transport for 1984.

I refer the hon. Gentleman to the answer I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Ealing, North (Mr. Greenway) on 13 May, at column 1. I understand the details for 1983 were published in the London Transport Executive's annual report for that year.

Civil Service

Government Statistical Service

asked the Minister for the Civil Service what further progress has been made on increasing the value for money provided by the Government statistical service along the lines indicated by the White Paper, "Government Statistical Services" (Cmnd. 8236).

During the 1984–85 financial year further annual savings of nearly £2 million have been found and the target of £26·5 million given in the White Paper has now been exceeded by some £5 million. That is an excellent achievement. The statistical service continues to seek economies and improve on value for money targets although these are becoming harder to achieve. Future improvements are likely to depend increasingly upon exploitation of computers and some further investment in this area will probably be required.

Energy

Electricity Slot Meters

asked the Secretary of State for Energy whether he will have discussions with the North Western electricity board about the circumstances of the provision of slot meters to households, and how this relates to his Department's code of practice on payment of electricity bills.

I have no plans to do so. The industry's voluntary code of practice for domestic customers provides for the installation of slot meters, where it is safe and practicable, as one means of paying outstanding debt within a reasonable period.

Coal Industry, Leicestershire

asked the Secretary of State for Energy (1) pursuant to his reply to the hon. and learned Member for Leicester, West on 24 June, Official Report, column 630, upon what evidence he bases his statement that the numbers employed in the coal industry in the Leicestershire area will increase by the end of the century;(2) pursuant to his reply to the hon. and learned Member for Leicester, West on 24 June,

Official Report, column 630, how many and which pits he expects to be in production in the Leicestershire area by the end of the century; how much coal he expects each of those pits to be producing; and how many coalminers he expects to be employed in each of those pits;

(3) pursuant to his reply to the hon. and learned Member for Leicester, West on 24 June, Official Report, column 630, how many pits are in operation now; how many miners are now employed in each of those pits; which of those pits he expects to be in operation by the end of the century; and how many coalminers he expects to be employed in each of those pits by the end of the century;

(4) pursuant to his reply to the hon. and learned Member for Leicester, West on 24 June, Official Report, column 630, how many miners are now employed on work on the Asfordby project; how many he expects to be employed on that mine by the end of the years 1990, 1992, 1995, 1998 and 2000, respectively; and how many and what percentage of such miners he expects to be from the Leicestershire area;

(5) pursuant to his reply to the hon. and learned Member for Leicester, West on 24 June, Official Report, column 630, how many miners he expects each of the pits in the Vale of Belvoir and north-west Leicestershire coalfield apart from Asfordby to be employing; and how many and what percentage he expects to be from the Leicestershire area at the end of the century.

As I pointed out to the hon. Gentleman on 24 June, there will be a major boost to the numbers employed in the coal industry in the south midlands area when such major prospects as are planned at Cadley Mill, Daw Hill and Coventry together with the new prospects at Asfordby and south Warwickshire come to fruition. I also anticipate growth in the opencast sector. Detailed questions on numbers of pits, their personnel and production are a matter for the National Coal Board. There is a tremendous future for the coal industry, particularly in the south midlands if it can cut costs to take advantage of the market opportunities which will be there.

Attorney-General

Doctors And Hospitals (Litigation Costs)

asked the Attorney-General what was the cost to the legal aid fund of providing legal advice regarding, and taking court action against, hospital doctors and hospitals in Northern Ireland during each of the financial years 1980–81, 1981–82, 1982–83, 1983–84 and 1984–85.

Information in the form requested is not readily available and could be provided only at disproportionate cost.

asked the Attorney-General how many legal aid certificates were issued during each of the financial years from 1980–81 to 1984–85 with a view to litigation against hospitals or hospital doctors working in Northern Ireland.

Statistics in the form requested are not readily available and could be provided only at disproportionate cost. The following table shows the figures for certificates issued in the five-year period in

1980–811981–821982–831983–841984–85
Total cases concluded2022263446
Judgment for plaintif (with charges)12
Judgment against plaintiff11
Settled6552317
Withdrawn131721927

Legal Aid Scheme

asked the Attorney-General what was the cost of advertising the legal aid scheme by television, public press and bill posting during each of the financial years 1980–81, 1981–82, 1982–83, 1983–84 and 1984–85 in (a) Northern Ireland, (b) Scotland and (c) England and Wales.

No records were kept of the cost of advertising the legal aid scheme in Northern Ireland prior to 1 April 1982, when the Lord Chancellor assumed responsibility. The cost of advertising the scheme in the financial years 1982–83, 1983–84 and 1984–85 has been as follows:

£
1982–8345,250
1983–8436,420
1984–8547,930
These costs include not only the cost of advertising the scheme in the ways mentioned in the question but also the production and supply of leaflets and posters and the publication of the legal aid solicitors list.The provision of legal aid in Scotland is the responsibility of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland. No public money has been used to

cases alleging "medical negligence" which incorporates all medical causes of action, including those arising in hospitals.

Number

1980–8154
1981–8263
1982–8395
1983–84149
1984–85144

A random check of a small sample of these cases indicates that approximately 80 per cent. of cases in this category relate to causes of action against hospitals or hospital doctors.

asked the Attorney-General in how many cases in which legal aid certificates were issued in the five years 1980 to 1985, for proposed actions against hospitals or hospital doctors in Northern Ireland, court action actually followed; of those, in how many cases damages were awarded against the defendant; and how many cases were dismissed.

Statistics in the precise form requested are not readily available and could be provided only at disproportionate cost. However, information on "medical negligence" in general is available and is shown in the following table. These results are compiled from the number of cases concluded in each year and not from the number of legal aid certificates issued.advertise the legal aid schemes in Scotland or in England and Wales in the ways mentioned. However, a leaflet on legal advice and assistance in Scotland is available, at a cost to public funds of around £1,500 in each of the years to which the question relates. In respect of the scheme in England and Wales, various leaflets and posters, and a short film, have been produced; and information is available on Prestel. The cost to public funds of advertising the scheme in England and Wales in these ways for the years in question was as follows:

£
1980–8116,000
1981–8221,500
1982–8328,500
1983–8429,500
1984–8564,500

Clifford V Eastern Health And Social Services Board

asked the Attorney-General what was the cost to public funds of the case of Clifford v. Eastern health and social services board, otherwise Clifford v. Nicholl heard at court in Belfast on 22 April before His Honour Judge Andrew Donaldson, QC.

The estimated cost (which is not precise) with regard to areas of expenditure for which the Lord Chancellor is responsible is approximately £160. This does not include legal aid, which has not yet been assessed.I understand that the cost to the Eastern Health and Social Services Board was £262.

Wrestling Competitions

asked the Attorney-General in how many cases during the last year the Director of Public Prosecutions has considered the institution of criminal proceedings arising out of chain wrestling competitions; what are the principles taken into account by the Director of Public Prosecutions in reaching decisions on such cases; and whether any such proceedings have been instituted.

The Director of Public Prosecutions has considered one case arising out of a "chain wrestling" competition. Chain wrestling competitions differ from the traditional sport in that a substantial chain links the two wrestlers together. A combatant who finds himself in a position to use the chain as a weapon is permitted to do so. As to the relevant legal principles, the Court of Appeal has ruled that it is not in the public interest that people should try to cause each other actual bodily harm for no reason. Further, it is not a defence to a charge of assault arising out of a fight, whether occurring in public or in private, that the victim consented to fight. It is an assault if actual bodily harm is intended and/or caused. But the Court of Appeal emphasised that its ruling was not intended to cast doubt on the accepted legality of properly conducted games and sports.It is likely that the courts would regard the introduction of a chain as a potential weapon as distinguishing such a competition from lawful sport. Any injuries which might be occasioned by its use would thus be distinguished from those which do sometimes occur in the normal course of robust but lawful sporting competitions. Their infliction might constitute assault or a more serious offence of unlawful wounding or grievous bodily harm depending upon the nature and degree of the injury.In the case considered by the Director of Public Prosecutions the evidence was insufficient to establish that actual harm had been occasioned by the use of the chain.

Trade And Industry

Short Brothers

20.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what steps he is taking to ensure that Short Brothers is able to export its products freely to the Philippines.

The Government are making every effort to ensure that Shorts, in common with other United Kingdom companies, can export its products successfully to the Philippines.

Research Vessels

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if Her Majesty's Government will introduce measures to promote the continuance of a body of expertise in building research vessels in one British shipyard.

We have no plans to do so. This is a matter for the commercial judgment of the British shipbuilding industry.

Theatrical Street Productions Ltd

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what action has been taken by his Department in relation to Mr. Martin Cannon, trading as Theatrical Street Productions Ltd., to ensure compliance with the Fair Trading Act and other legislation.

Theatrical Street Productions Ltd. was wound up compulsorily in the High Court on 10 December 1984 and its affairs are being investigated by the Official Receiver in conjunction with other authorities.

Motor Vehicles

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will list his powers to require car manufacturers to state the British value added percentage in each marque in their product range.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what was the value of motor car, lorry and bus exports to the European Economic Community, respectively, including Portugal and Spain, over the most recent 12-month period for which figures are available; what were the comparable figures in each of the previous five years; and what were the comparable figures for imports of cars, lorries and buses, respectively, from the European Economic Community.

Shipbuilding (Korea)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will take steps to seek to stop the Korean Government-subsidised tenders on United Kingdom shipbuilding contracts; and if he will also seek the withdrawal of the Trinity House lighthouse tender contract.

Through our active participation in the dialogue between the OECD working party on shipbuilding and the Government of the Republic of Korea we continue to press for pricing arrangements which can best ensure the health of the United Kingdom shipbuilding industry with the long term aim of the phasing out of all subsidies worldwide. The decision to place the lighthouse tender contract in Korea was a matter for Trinity House and no public money was involved. The Government concluded that the level of subsidy that would have been necessary to keep the order in the United Kingdom could not have been justified.

Excavators (Japan)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry why the EEC Council of Ministers has imposed anti-dumping duties in a range up to 32 per cent. against imports of hydraulic excavators from Japan; and if he will make a statement.

Anti-dumping duties ranging from 2·9 per cent to 31·9 per cent. were imposed with effect from 7 July on imports of hydraulic excavators manufactured by a number of Japanese companies. The relevant Council regulation (No. 1877/85 of 4 July) represents the conclusion of an investigation conducted by the Commission following complaints by the Community hydraulic excavator industry. The investigation found that Japanese excavators were being dumped in the Community market and that this dumping was causing material injury. The anti-dumping duties will remain in force for five years or until reviewed.

Ec (Anti-Dumping Measures)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry on how many occasions anti-dumping measures have been enforced by the EEC over the past five years in cases when the exporting nation has made proposals to the Commission for increased prices to remove the extent of the alleged dumping.

A definitive remedy in cases where foreign manufacturers are found to have dumped their products in the European Community to the detriment of Community industry can take the form of an anti-dumping duty or the acceptance of a price undertaking.The discussions between the Commission and a foreign manufacturer following the offer of a price undertaking are confidential: some offers are rejected. In approximately three quarters of anti-dumping cases over the past five years, price undertakings have been accepted as the definitive remedy.

Recycling

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what have been the results to date of the contact between the Minister responsible for recycling and the United Kingdom Reclamation Council.

[pursuant to his reply, 9 July 1985, c. 394]: When I met representatives of the United Kingdom Reclamation Council on 12 March, they indicated that there were areas in which the council would be able to suggest some recycling initiatives. I have asked for another meeting before the summer recess to discuss what the council has decided to do and possible ways in which the Government might help.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will make a statement about current Government policy on waste recycling and whether he intends to make any changes.

[pursuant to his reply, 9 July 1985, c. 394]: I refer the hon. Member to the second special report from the Trade and Industry Committee, Session 1984–85, where he will find the Government's response to the Committee's report "The Wealth of Waste."At an open day at the Warren Spring laboratory on 10 July I announced my intention to establish a unit at the laboratory to provide technical support, including the preparation of statistical and economic data and state of the art reports, to private and public sector organisations in the recycling field. The unit would cost around £200,000 per annum, and I am looking to industry for a 50 per cent. contribution. I am also planning a campaign to raise public awareness of the potential for reclamation and recycling.

Employment

Training

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many people are now on each of the following schemes: full-time job release, part-time job release, young workers scheme, job splitting scheme, community programme, community industry, enterprise allowance scheme, youth training scheme and training opportunities scheme.

The information requested is estimated as follows, for 31 May:

Numbers
Community programme134,000
Enterprise allowance scheme47,000
Job splitting scheme240
Job release schemes64,000
Young workers scheme52,000
Community industry8,000
Training in industry1,500
Youth training scheme280,000
Training opportunities scheme27,820

Registered Unemployed Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether the names and addresses of those who are registered as unemployed at unemployment benefit offices are available to managers of local jobcentres.

Since October 1982 and the introduction of a Rayner recommendation that registration for employment at a jobcentre for adults be voluntary, the names and addresses of those signing at unemployment benefit offices have not been automatically passed to jobcentres. This information has, however, been made available on request.Unemployed young people under 18 still have to register for work, either at a jobcentre or careers office, as one of the conditions for receiving benefit.

Petrol (Price Increases)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will estimate the effect on the retail prices index of the increases in the price of petrol during each month in the current year.

In March and April, increases in the price of petrol and oil added, respectively, 0·2 and 0·1 per cent. to the level of the retail prices index. There were negligible effects in other months.

Prime Minister

Falkland Islands (Fishing)

Q38.

asked the Prime Minister whether the Soviet Government have approached the United Kingdom with any request for fishing licences to operate in the waters around the Falkland Islands and about their approach to the Argentine Government on the same subject.

Anglo-Irish Council

Q129.

asked the Prime Minister if she proposes to increase the secretariat of the Anglo-Irish Council.

Engagements

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 11 July.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 11 July.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 11 July.

This morning I presided at a meeting of the Cabinet and had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others. In addition to my duties in this House I shall be having further meetings later today.

asked the Prime Minister if she will state her official engagements for Monday 8 July.

In the morning I had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others including one with the Chiefs of Defence Staff. In the afternoon I had further meetings, including one with the Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago.

National Health Service

asked the Prime Minister what improvements have been made to the National Health Service since May 1979; and how the standard of patient care provided in National Health Service hospitals compares with that which existed prior to May 1979.

The National Health Service is now treating more patients a year than ever before. This has been achieved by spending more money and taking steps to see that Health Service money is used to better effect. We are also developing a more modern health service better fitted to care for and prevent sickness and respond to changing demands.We believe that the National Health Service's aim is to meet the needs and convenience of public and patients and we have been pleased by the recorded satisfaction of the public with the National Health Service. A recent opinion poll has shown that over three-quarters of the public thought the service "very good". The increased level of service provided is shown by the facts that, comparing 1984 with 1978:

over ¾ million more in-patient cases were treated;
over ¼ million more day cases were treated;
there were over 3 million extra outpatient attendances;
health visitors and home nurses visited or treated ⅔ million more people, ¼ million of them elderly;
over 1 million more children aged five and under attended child health clinics;
the number of coronary artery by-pass grafts rose from 3,191 in 1978 to 9,443 in 1984, an increase of nearly 200 per cent.;
there were over 4½ million more courses of dental treatment;
the number of new renal patients accepted for treatment has increased by 60 per cent. The number of patients being treated for end stage renal failure rose from 5,390 to 9,330, an increase of 73 per cent. For most renal patients, the preferred method of treatment is by kidney transplant; the Government launched a campaign, in February 1984, to increase the number of organs becoming available for transplant and to provide the donor card scheme. During the following 12 months, kidney transplants rose by 35 per cent., from 1,089 to 1,470;
latest figures (September 1984) show that the waiting list for hospital treatment has been reduced after rising by almost 250,000 between 1974–1979. It would have been lower still but for the 1982 industrial action. This downward trend has been achieved at a time when there are increasing demands for treatment and when the Health Service is treating more patients than ever before;
it must also be remembered that half of all admissions to hospitals are immediate and many of those on the waiting lists will have firm dates for planned admissions.

This improved performance has been supported by record spending on the health service. Total spending has more than doubled from £7¾ billion in 1978–79 to a projected £17½ billion in 1985–86. By 1984–85, expenditure has increased by more than 20 per cent. measured against general inflation. These extra resources have been more than enough to meet the growth in demand resulting from the increasing numbers of elderly people. Capital spending has increased by over 20 per cent., in real terms, following a cut of one-third, under the previous administration. As a result 52 major hospital schemes costing over £5 million each, have been started since 1979. One hundred and fifty eight further projects are currently being designed or are under construction. Health authorities are planning further development worth over £123 million.

We have provided record levels of financial support but we are also succeeding in achieving better value for money spent in the health service. This has been the key to enabling the Service to treat more patients than ever before. A first step was to simplify the structure of the health service by abolishing one tier-area health authorities. From 1 April 1985, independent family practitioner committees directly accountable to the Secretary of State for Social Services were established. Other steps have been taken or are in train to achieve clearer accountability and better management within the health service. These include:

annual accountability reviews by Ministers of the performance of regional health authorities at which objectives are set and RHAs held to account for their achievements. The review process has now been extended to district health authorities and their units;
the appointment — as recommended by the (Griffiths) management inquiry report on National Health Service management which we commissioned — of general managers, with personal responsibility for performance, at regional and district level and in hospitals and other units; and the revision of management structures to complement this;
management has been aided by a series of initiatives to enable National Health Service authorities to scrutinise and improve their own performance. This includes Rayner-style efficiency scrutinies on particular aspects of health service activity;
the development of performance indicators to enable health authorities to compare their service with those provided by other authorities;
a major review of National Health Service information requirements and systems (the Körner review): health authorities are now implementing the results;
improved audit;
the development of management budgeting, involving doctors, to improve resource usage and control;
a report on the disposal of under-used and surplus land and buildings, following which health authorities are reexamining their property holdings to free resources for patient care;
competitive tendering for hospital support services to test their cost-effectiveness: significant and growing savings (already some £13 million) are being realised for patient care;
the introduction of health authority cost improvement programmes: health authorities planned to make cost improvements valued at £100 million in 1984–85, and are planning further improvements worth £150 million for 1985–86;
better arrangements for the planning and control of manpower, so that the proportion of staff providing direct patient care (eg doctors and nurses) has continued to rise. By September 1983 there were over 5,000 more hospital doctors and dentists and nearly 57,000 more nurses and midwives than in September 1978.

These improvements in management and efficiency are directed at not simply more treatment for patients but also a better quality of service. This is reflected not only in developments in acute services mentioned above and advances in new forms of diagnosis and treatment (e.g. previously untreatable eye conditions which now make use of laser techniques) but also in progress made towards the development of the priority services for the elderly, mentally ill and mentally handicapped people.

In addition, we have been making real achievements in the prevention of health and social problems. We have seen a reduction of 33 per cent. in perinatal mortality between 1979 and 1983; reductions in cigarette smoking; the development of urgent plans by health authorities to tackle drug misuse; new campaigns on rubella immunisation, and measures to combat glue sniffing and drug and alcohol misuse.

In the field of primary care opticians' unjustified monopoly in the dispensing of glasses has been ended. The drug bill has been reduced by a selected list of prescribeable medicines in certain categories and savings are already being used to improve other parts of the NHS. In 1984 there were over three thousand more family doctors and nearly 2·5 thousand more dentists than in 1978–79. The average family doctor's patient list size had reduced from 2,253 in 1978 to 2,068 in 1983.

We have welcomed the development and expansion of the private sector of health care. The compulsory phasing out of pay beds from National Health Service hospitals has been ended and we are working to encourage closer cooperation between private hospitals and the National Health Service for the benefit of patients. About 4·5 million people now choose to cover themselves with private medical insurance, providing a useful supplement to the total sum of health care, and relieving pressure on the National Health Service.

These massive improvements in the volume and standard of care provided by the National Health Service have not been achieved by the Government alone. We have taken steps which were necessary to enable those who work in the service to raise its standards of performance. I would like to pay tribute to the dedication and hard work of the overwhelming majority of all types and grades of staff in the Service, doctors and nurses, administrators and treasurers, cleaners and porters, who serve the patients so well. We have provided more finance, clearer planning and decision making and improved management to expand the service that their efforts provide.

Commercial Relationship

asked the Prime Minister if she will move to get up a tribunal of inquiry under the Tribunals of Inquiry (Evidence) Act 1921 to inquire into the commercial relationship between Johnson Matthey Bankers and the Gomba-related companies; and if she will make a statement.

Fontainebleau Agreement

asked the Prime Minister in what way (a) the Fontainebleau agreement and (b) the United Kingdom European Economic Community rebate are dependent on the outcome of the International Conference established by majority vote at Milan.

No part of the Own Resources Decision which embodies the Fontainebleau agreement on the future financing of the Community, including the arrangements for the United Kingdom's abatement, is dependent on the outcome of the intergovernmental conference established by the Milan European Council.

Terrorism

asked the Prime Minister if, during her discussions with the President of the United States of America, the option of an international news black-out on terrorist activities was discussed; and if she will make a statement.

The question of media handling of terrorist incidents in the United Kingdom is under consideration by the Home Secretary. I have not yet discussed the question of international handling of reporting about terrorist incidents with President Reagan but would welcome the opportunity to do so, and indeed believe the topic merits wider international discussion.

Petrol Prices

asked the Prime Minister when she next expects to meet representatives of the oil companies to discuss the effect of petrol prices on the economy.

Overseas Development

Africa (Famine Relief)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will publish in the Official Report that part of the Dublin summit communiqué or decision which related to the pledge to provide 1·2 million tonnes of famine relief for Africa; and whether the relief concerned was designed to be in addition to the aid provided bilaterally by individual member states.

The full conclusions of the European Council of 3–4 December 1984 are available in the Library of the House. The relevant extract is as follows:

"In the face of the serious difficulties currently being experienced by many countries of Africa, especially those, like Ethiopia or the Sahel countries, which are suffering the effects of an unprecedented drought and the ravages of malnutrition and famine, the European Council stresses the urgency of taking concerted international action.
The European Council believes that the total to be provided by the Community and its member states between now and the next harvest should be 1·2 million tonnes.
The Commission, after consultation with member states to establish the amount of grain that will be provided by member states, will make a proposal to the Council with respect to any additional Community effort that may be needed to attain the figure of 1·2 million tonnes and the European Council invites the Council of Ministers to take any necessary decisions on the basis of such a Commission proposal in order to secure the achievement of the 1·2 million total. The European Council appeals to other donor countries to match this effort by the Community and its member states in order that the total need of those states, currently estimated at 2 million tonnes, will be met."
As my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister told the House on 5 December 1984, at column 352, it was the intention of the European Council that 1·2 million tonnes of cereals should be provided by the Community and member states together.

Falkland Islands Development Corporation

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how many Falkland Islands-based firms, which do not have outside ownership, have received grants or loans from the Falkland Islands Development Corporation.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether the minutes and agendas of the board of the Falkland Islands Development Corporation are available to the public.

No. But an annual report will be produced and will be available to the public. The first should be published at the end of July.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, pursuant to his reply of 14 June, Official Report, column 569, if he will list the 54 companies which have received assistance from the Falkland Islands Development Corporation.

A total of 48 firms or individuals have received assistance from the Falkland Islands Development Corporation, not 54 as stated in my reply of 14 June, at column 569. I regret this discrepancy, which arises from the fact that a few received assistance over more than one project and were double counted previously. For reasons of commercial confidentiality, the corporation does not disclose information about assistance it has given without the prior consent of the firm or individual concerned.

Africa (Food Aid Commitment)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what further information emerged from the EEC co-ordination meeting on 8 July in Brussels regarding the actual amount of food aid sent to the drought stricken nations of northern and east Africa in pursuance of the food aid commitment made at the Dublin summit.

The European Commission reported that 43 per cent. of the 1·2 million tonnes of cereals or cereal equivalent pledged at the European Council in December 1984 had been delivered to the African countries most severely affected by drought, and that a further 34 per cent. was now being mobilised.The following information was provided on deliveries to each of the countries of the Sahel and East Africa:

Tonnes of cereals or cereal equivalent
CommunityMember StatesTotal
Ethiopia81,500*65,000146,500
Sudan85,50082,500168,000
Chad*20,00030,00050,000
Mali*28,50012,00040,500
Mauritania6,2006,200
Niger29,50032,50062,000
* Figures are lower than those given to my hon. Friend the Member for Hertford and Stortford (Mr. Wells) on 6 June, at columns 198–99, or to my hon. Friend the Member for Southend, East (Mr. Taylor) on 5 July. This reflects previous over-reporting of deliveries effected.

Home Department

Police (Staff Levels)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what were the staff levels for each year since 1979 in the police service nationally.

The information for England and Wales is as follows:

At 30 JunePolice officersFull-time civilian staffPart-time civilian staffTotal manpower (including part-time civilians on a 2 for I basis)
1979112,26231,1938,064147,487
1980115,35332,4818,254151,961
1981118,71833,7098,315156,585
1982120,37033,8068,049158,201
1983121,15834,0557,851159,139
1984120,98734,7787,601159,566

Sentenced Persons (Transfers)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many foreign prisoners serving sentences in the United Kingdom on the most recent convenient date would be eligible for transfer from the United Kingdom under the Council of Europe convention on the transfer of sentenced persons; and from which countries they originate.

The convention comes into force in relation to the United Kingdom on 1 August 1985; by that date the convention will also apply to France, the United States, Sweden and Spain. In addition, the convention comes into force in relation to Canada on 1 September. On 30 April this year the number of prisoners serving sentences in England and Wales who gave their nationality as that of one of these countries, and who were then eligible for repatriation under the terms of the convention by virtue of the length of sentence still to be served, was estimated as follows:

Number
France8
United States of America33
Sweden1
Spain15
Canada14
I understand that no eligible prisoners appear to be serving sentences in Scotland or Northern Ireland.

Motor Cycles (Noise Levels)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many prosecutions took place and how many convictions were obtained, in the five years culminating in the most recent year for which figures are available, for the use of motor cycles not silenced to a noise level within the permitted maximum.

The available information relates to proceedings at magistrates' courts for noise caused by a faulty silencer in a motor cycle, moped or scooter and is given in the following table.

Proceedings and findings of guilt at magisrates' courts for noise caused by a faulty silencer on motorcycles, mopeds and scooters. England and Wales
Number
YearProceedingsFindings of guilt
19791,8331,750
19802,4482,338
19812,4652,315
19822,7902,616
19832,6722,527

Cable Television

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what progress has been made by each of the companies allocated the original 11 interim franchises for cable television; and if he will make a statement.

I understand that parts of the systems in Aberdeen and Swindon are now operational and programme services are being provided to subscribers. The systems in Coventry, Croydon and Westminster are currently being installed and services are expected to start in there September. In the Clyde area, Ealing and Windsor, construction work is expected to begin shortly with a view to commencing operations towards the end of this year or early next. The remaining three areas — Merseyside, Belfast and Guildford — are in various stages of planning and may be in a position to serve their first customers in the early part of next year.

Wales (Criminal Offences)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what were the total numbers of criminal offences in Wales in each of the years 1979 to 1984; and of these what were the total numbers of burglaries and sexual crimes for each of the five years, respectively.

Statistics of notifiable offences recorded by the police in Wales are published annually in Criminal Statistics, England and Wales (Tables 2.4 and 2.6 of the volume for 1983, Cmnd. 9349). Corresponding figures for 1984 were published in Home Office Statistical Bulletin,) Issue 6/85 on 12 March 1985.

Prison Service

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what was the total strength by grades including governors at 31 March of the prison service in England and Wales.

The numbers, by grades, of Prison Service staff at outstations on 31 March were as follows:

Numbers
Prison Officer Grades18,400·5
Administration Grades2,262·5
Industrial staff2,143·0
Civilian Instructional Officer and Professional and Technology Officers1,132·5
Governors542·0
Storemen422·0
Doctors and nurses296·5
Chaplains107·5
Psychologists94·5
Cleaners60·0
Farm Managers31·0
Messengers14·0
Assistant Librarian1·0
The number of Prison Service headquarters staff on 31 March was as follows:

Numbers
Non Industrial (mainly administration group grades)1,482·0
Industrial (mainly based at Supply and Transport Branch Headquarters at Corby)362·5

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what was the average basic salary excluding allowances and overtime for each grade including governors for the financial year 1984–85 in the prison service in England and Wales.

The average basic annual salaries excluding overtime and allowances in the financial year 1984–85 were:

£
Governor I22,605
Governor II20,283
Governor III16,744
Governor IV13,455
Assistant Governor11,654
Assistant Governor (trainee)11,219
Chief Officer I10,643
Chief Officer II9,854
Principal Officer8,116
Senior Officer7,245
Prison Officer5,744
Prison Auxiliary5,348
Night Patrol5,673

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what was the average gross salary including allowances and overtime for each grade including governors for the financial year 1984–85 in the prison service in England and Wales.

Governor grades received no payment in addition to their basic salaries except that they were provided with either rent-free quarters or a rent allowance of up to £2,135 a year, and those working in London were paid London weighting of up to £1,300 a year. The average gross annual salary, including overtime payments and allowances for shift and weekend working, of each of the prison officer grades in the financial year 1984–85 was:

£
Chief Officer I15,079
Chief Officer II14,190
Principal Officer15,808
Senior Officer14,230
Prison Officer11,396
Prison Auxiliary10,097
Night Patrol9,515
In addition, prison officers in all grades other than prison auxiliary and night patrol were provided with either rent-free accommodation or a housing allowance of £1,060 a year (£1,353 for the Chief Officer grades). All grades working in the London pay area receive London weighting of up to £1,300 a year, and some officers were also paid an allowance, varying in amount, in recognition of certain specialist skills.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what was the average overtime for each grade including governors for the financial year 1984–85 in the prison service in England and Wales.

The average overtime worked by prison officers was 16·4 hours per officer per week. Small amounts of overtime were also worked by other grades. The pay and conditions of service of governor grades take account of the need for them to attend for whatever hours are necessary for the performance of their job. Overtime allowances are therefore inapplicable to them.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what percentages of officers had a gross salary in excess of (a) £13,000, (b) £14,000 and (c) £15,000 for the financial year 1984–85 in the prison service in England and Wales.

Magistrates' Courts

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what was the cost of the magistrates' courts system in the most recent convenient financial year.

The provisional outturn figure for the cost of the magistrates' courts system in 1983–84 was £141,284,000.

Fines

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how much money was received in fines paid by offenders in the most recent convenient financial year.

The total income from fines and fees collected by magistrates' courts in England and Wales in 1984–85 was £123,642,000.

Compensation Orders

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how much money was paid by offenders under compensation orders in the most recent convenient financial year.

This information is not available centrally, and could not be obtained without disproportionate cost.

Dog Fighting

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what information he has secured in regard to the incidence of the practice of organised dog fighting, the incidence of importation of dogs in pursuit of this activity and the stealing of dogs for the purpose.

Organised dog fighting is illegal under the Protection of Animals Act 1911. We have no present reason for believing that there is any widespread abuse, but the police are always ready to act upon evidence of such objectionable activities. We are not aware of any recent evidence to suggest that dogs are being imported or stolen for this purpose.

Prison Statistics

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many people were in prison on 9 July; how many were held in police custody on the same date; and if he will make a statement.

On 5 July, the latest date for which figures have been collected, 47,832 persons were held in Prison Department custody, plus 96 prisoners in police cells.

Home Defence

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what grants are, or have been, paid to any police authority for home defence other than civil defence as defined in the Civil Defence Act 1984; and if he will make a statement.

None. Only the home defence activities which fall within the definition of civil defence in the Civil Defence Act 1984 are eligible for grant aid.

Police Vehicles (Excise Duty)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) how many vehicles, which are not chargeable with vehicle excise duty by virtue of regulation 27 of the Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) Regulations 1971, are in the possession of each police authority in England and Wales;(2) how many vehicles which are not chargeable with vehicle excise duty by virtue of regulation 27 of the Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) Regulations 1971, are in the possession of each local authority in England and Wales.

Opinion Polls

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will consider introducing legislation banning all opinion polls carried out by national press, local press, television, radio, colleges and universities 14 days before the polling day; and if he will make a statement.

Civil Defence Review

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will publish the background papers to the civil defence review of 1980.

The review covered a wide range of activities many relating to the defence of this country, and it would not therefore be in the public interest to publish these papers.

Civil Defence

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will publish in the Official Report a list of those local authorities which have, since 1 December 1983, applied for grant aid for the purpose of establishing, equipping or maintaining an emergency centre or centres pursuant to regulation 4(1)(b) of the Civil Defence (General Local Authority Functions) Regulations 1983; and in each case what was (a) the date on which the application was made, (b) the proposed location of the centre or centres, (c) the total cost of the project as indicated in the application for grant approval, (d) whether the application has been approved, (e) if the application is still awaiting approval, why it has not yet been approved; and (f) if the application was disapproved for what reason.

The information requested is not readily available and could only be obtained at disproportionate cost.

Visitors

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, if he will list the number of visitors to the United Kingdom in each of the last five years who have been recorded on the current computer system as those whose embarkation is likely to need checking; if he will provide a breakdown by nationality of those visitors listed above; if he will list the criteria employed in determining the recording of those listed above; and if he will make a statement.

Local Radio Services

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what plans he has to widen the range of consumer choice in local radio services.

In reply to a question from my hon. Friend the Member for Kingswood (Mr. Hayward) on 23 January, at columns 417 to 418, I said that I hoped to make a further statement about community radio following a study of how its development could best to taken forward. I have now decided to establish an experiment to test the viability of and scope for a range of different types of community radio, set up and financed in different ways in different locations. I hope that frequencies will be available for about 20 experimental stations which could begin broadcasting early next year. In general these will be appreciably smaller in coverage than existing local radio services. The central criterion will be that they should enhance existing broadcasting arrangements and broaden the diversity of consumer choice by offering the community in question an additional service which is distinct in character, whether because of the nature of the programming, its emphasis on local or specialist interests, its appeal to specific community concerns, for other reasons. It will be open to a number of bodies to come together to apply jointly for a licence on the basis that they will use the frequency on a time share basis; and, given the limited number of frequencies, this will have advantages. I intend to make a further announcement as soon as possible setting out the locations for the experimental community radio stations, and outlining the application procedure for prospective licensees. In selecting the successful applicants, I hope to have the benefit of advice from a panel of advisers.As outlined in my earlier statement, however, the development of community radio raises a number of important broadcasting policy issues, and may in addition have implications for our existing local radio services. I have therefore decided that it would be right for these matters to be the subject of wider consultations, and I propose to publish a Green Paper in summer 1986 identifying the issues, outlining a range of possible responses, and inviting comments on them. When the Green Paper is published the experimental stations should have been operating for some months, and that experience should help inform consideration of the issues outlined in the Green Paper.Existing local radio services normally broadcast the same programmes on medium wave and VHF frequencies. I have from time to time, however, approved ad hoc requests from the broadcasting authorities for particular stations to broadcast separate programmes on the two frequencies for a temporary period in order to meet particular local needs or circumstances. Stations have thus been able, for example, to provide a special emergency information service during periods of severe weather, to provide commentary on sporting events, and to help with charity appeals, while maintaining their normal output on the other frequency. Both the IBA and the BBC have recently put to me proposals for experiments in split-frequency broadcasting over a longer period. The IBA have asked that six independent local radio stations (Piccadilly Radio, Leicester Sound, Marcher Sound, Viking Radio, Wiltshire Radio and Capital Radio) should be permitted, as and when appropriate, to broadcast seperate programmes on their two frequencies for up to 10 hours per week. The purposes to which the additional service would be devoted include classical music concerts, ethnic programming, sporting commentaries and specialist music programmes. The BBC have sought approval to Radio Nottingham and Leicester broadcasting Asian programmes for a few hours a week on one frequency while carrying their normal services on the other.I have decided to approve these proposals for an experimental period of one year. Arrangements have been made for research, including audience research, into the experiment. At its conclusion, I propose to undertaken a careful assessment of the practical and other implications of split-frequency broadcasting. I shall continue to be prepared to consider ad hoc requests for particular stations to undertake split-frequency broadcasts of short duration in the light of exceptional local needs or circumstances.

Fire Service (Discipline)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he proposes to issue guidance to the fire service on the procedures to be followed under the Fire Services (Discipline) Regulations 1985 (S.I., 1985, No. 930).

I have today placed in the Library a copy of the guidance to be issued to chief fire officers. This guidance has been the subject of consultation with both fire authorities and representative bodies in the fire service, and I formally consulted both national joint councils over its terms when I consulted them over the draft regulations under section 17 of the Fire Services Act 1947. The guidance represents the agreed procedure for handling cases under the new regulations and I am confident that it will be welcomed by all concerned as an integral part of the new discipline provisions and as the means of best achieving natural justice in disciplinary matters consistent with the needs and traditions of the fire service.

Firearms Act

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if in the light of recent disclosures of the contents of the report of Sir John McKay's working party on the administration of the Firearms Act 1968 he will now place a copy of the report in the Library; and if he will make a statement.

[pursuant to his reply, 5 June 1985, c. 159]: It would be inappropriate to do so. The report of Sir John McKay's working party on the control of firearms, prepared in 1972, was an internal document. Its main conclusions and recommendations were, however, incorporated in the 1973 Green Paper, "The Control of Firearms in Great Britain" (Cmnd. 5297).

House Of Commons

Duchy Of Lancaster (Magistracy)

asked the Lord Privy Seal (1) what approaches the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster makes to political parties to obtain nominations for the magistracy within the Duchy;(2) what action the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster takes to ensure political balance in the magistracy within the Duchy;

The Secretaries of the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster's advisory committees are advised to keep in contact with the local political parties, as well as with other local organisations, to encourage them to recommend persons for appointment as magistrates. They also maintain a record of the party allegiances of magistrates where these are known at the time of appointment. Thereafter the committees do their best to ensure that new appointments improve upon the political balance of the bench as and when it becomes necessary to do so.

Accommodation

asked the Lord Privy Seal how many hon. Members (a) have their own office on the parliamentary estate, (b) share such an office (i) with one other, (ii) with two others, (iii) with three others, (iv) with four or more others, (c) have some other form of accommodation, including a desk, and (d) have no such allocated accommodation; and if he will give the reasons for those in the last category.

The information requested is as follows:

Numbers
(a) Hon. Members with their own room273
(b) Hon Members who share a room
(i) With one other242
(ii) With two others30
(iii) With three others32
(iv) With four or more others62
(c) Hon. Members who have some other form of accommodationNil
(d) Hon. Members who have no allocated accommodation11
Total650
The reasons for those in the last category are not known. I should add, however, that all new Members are sent a leaflet by the Serjeant at Arms Department, which explains how they can apply for accommodation.

Visual Display Units

asked the Lord Privy Seal, pursuant to his reply to the right hon. Member for Manchester, Wythenshawe of 26 June, Official Report, column 401, if he is satisfied that people who work with visual display units in the Palace of Westminster do not face any health hazard in consequence of their work with them; if any trade union with members employed within the Palace has been consulted on this matter; and if any consideration has been given to compulsory eye tests for those employed or to be employed on visual display units.

I have been assured that there is no current evidence that visual display units, properly used, constitute any threat to health; regular discussions about employment on VDUs are taking place with officials, of trade unions representing staff of the House; it is not considered appropriate for eye tests, presently available on a voluntary basis to those staff employed or to be employed on VDUs, to be made compulsory.

Health And Safety

asked the Lord Privy Seal, pursuant to his reply to the right hon. Member for Manchester, Wythenshawe of 26 June, Official Report, column 401, whether the safety committee to which his reply referred also deals with health matters affecting people who work in the Palace of Westminster; and if he will name the trade unions with which formal consultation takes place on health and safety matters affecting their members employed in the Palace.

The safety committee consults with the Department of the Environment and other relevant bodies over the elimination of any hazards reported to it. The following unions represent House of Commons staff on the safety committee:

  • (1) Association of First Division Civil Servants (FDA)
  • (2) Civil and Public Services Association (CPSA)
  • (3) Civil Service Union (CSU)
  • (4) General Municipal Boilermakers and Allied Trades Union (GMW Section) [incorporating Hotel and Catering Workers' Union (HWCU)]
  • (5) Institution of Professional Civil Servants (IPCS)
  • (6) Society of Civil and Public Servants (SCPS)
  • Photocopying Equipment

    asked the Lord Privy Seal whether the use of photocopying equipment supplied to the Labour party in the House is restricted to 12 copies on the basis of other photocopying machines within the House.

    The photocopying equipment provided for the official Opposition is not subject to any restrictions on its use.

    Members' Secretaries

    asked the Lord Privy Seal how many secretaries accredited to hon. Members were in possession of photographic passes on 1 July; if he will publish a table showing the number of Members with nought, one, two and three, and so on accredited secretaries; what information he has as to the number of such secretaries working for one, two, three and so on hon. Members; and if he will give comparative figures for each of the past 10 years.

    The number of Palace of Westminster photo-identity passes on issue to Members' secretaries on 1 July 1985 was 612. The information requested on the number of secretaries employed per Member is as follows:

    Numbers
    Members employing no secretary192
    Members employing one secretary342
    Members employing two secretaries79
    Members employing three secretaries23
    Members employing four secretaries5
    5Members employing five secretaries5
    Members employing six secretaries1
    Members employing seven secretaries0
    Members employing eight secretaries0
    Members employing nine secretaries1
    It is understood that 15 secretaries work for two Members, and one secretary works for three Members. I regret that the records which are held by the authorities of the House do not enable me to give comparative figures for the other years requested.

    National Finance

    Objects In Lieu Of Tax

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, with reference to the answer to the hon. Member

    Indices*of competitiveness in manufactures United Kingdom compared with Federal Republic of Germany†
    1980=100
    Export pricesProducer pricesUnit labour costsNormalised unit labour costsDeutschemark per pound
    197374·773·766·372·46·64
    197476·574·570·175·66·05
    197578·578·278·181·55·45
    197675·273·571·975·04·55
    1973 1st Quarter80·182·672·478·27·33
    1976 4th Quarter72·768·364·168·93·98
    1979 1st Quarter82·878·974·175·83·74
    1981 1st Quarter114·2115·5119·8123·84·81
    1984 4th Quarter104·598·187·7100·83·72
    * All indices in US dollar terms
    † ie in each case UK index divided by FRG index

    for Warley, East on 17 June, Official Report, column 28 about the review of the Vote arrangements governing the acceptance of works of art and museum objects as payment in kind of capital tax liabilities, he is now able to make a statement setting out the Government's policy in this regard.

    The review of the Vote arrangements governing the acceptance of assets in lieu of tax is in progress. A statement will be made in due course.

    Exchange Rates

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish in the Official Report a table showing for the United Kingdom, each of the EEC Six, the United States of America and Japan the change in the real exchange rate since the average of the years 1973 to 1976 based on (a) relative gross domestic product deflators, (b) relative export prices for manufactures and (c) relative unit labour costs; and if he will include figures showing the current nominal rates in each case compared to March 1983, the fourth quarter of 1984 and January 1985.

    A variety of indices of relative costs and prices for the countries and period requested compared with other major industrial countries are available in the table "Cost and Price Comparisons for Manufacturing" in International Financial Statistics. Nominal effective exchange rate indices for the period requested are available in successive issues of the Bank of England Quarterly Bulletin (table 18).

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will publish in the Official Report a table showing the indices of competitiveness in Table F3 of the "Monthly Review of External Trade Statistics for the United Kingdom" compared with Germany for the average of the years 1973 to 1976, the fourth quarter of 1976, the first quarter of 1979, the first quarter of 1981, the first quarter of 1973, the fourth quarter of 1984, the lastest available month in each case and his estimate of the current position, together with the appropriate nominal exchange rate aginst the deutschemark.

    I have been asked to reply. The information is in the table. For the indices of import price competitiveness and relative profitability of exports (also in table F3), price information specific to UK-German trade is not readily available.

    Interest Rates

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will list the factors currently preventing an immediate cut in interest rates.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave him on 27 June (Vol. 81, c. 489.

    Official Reserves

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what were the United Kingdom official reserves for the month of June in each of the last 10 financial years.

    At the end of June 1985 the official reserves stood at $14,318 million. Figures for previous years are available in Economic Trends, Annual Supplement, 1985, pp. 143–145.

    Environment

    Local Authorities (Services)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) how many local authorities have put all or any of their professional services out to the private sector;(2) how many local authorities have selected outside firms to operate the work undertaken by the former direct labour organisation as opposed to giving the in-house organisation the work;(3) how many local authorities have put more than one service into the private sector.

    My Department does not collect systematic data on these subjects, but useful information may be found in the annual surveys of local authority privatisation which the Local Government Chronicle has published since 1983.

    Glc (Press Officers)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many press officers are employed by the Greater London council; and what total cost this represents to ratepayers.

    I regret that the information requested is not available centrally. This is a matter for the GLC.

    Newham

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what are his reasons for not having accepted the revised financial information provided by the London borough of Newham for the financial year 1982 to 1983; what differences his refusal has made on Newham's block grant entitlement; and what will be the effect on the council's 1984–85 and 1985–86 budget.

    My right hon. Friend does not consider that the revised financial return provided by the London borough of Newham gives the best information as to their outturn total expenditure for 1982–83. This revised return would reduce Newham's block grant entitlement in respect of 1982–83 by about £2½ million. What effect it would have on Newham's budget in 1984–85 and 1985–86 is a matter for the council.

    Liverpool

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) what plans he has for emergency legislation to deal with the budget situation of the city of Liverpool;(2) if he will meet a deputation of hon. Members from Liverpool to discuss the city's deficit budget.

    Liverpool city council has now made a rate and declared a budget. It is for that council to live with the consequences of its decision. I have agreed to meet a deputation of hon. Members.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he has any plans to appoint a commissioner to run the affairs of the city of Liverpool.

    London Docklands Development Corporation

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) what arrangements exist for consultation between the London Docklands Development Corporation and the population in the London docklands area; and if he will make a statement;(2) what efforts are made by the London Docklands Development Corporation to let the Docklands Forum know what its plans are; and if he will make a statement.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will undertake an investigation into ways and means to reduce the London Docklands Development Corporation's administrative costs; and if he will make a statement.

    This subject will be covered in today's debate on the environment committee's report on my Department's main Estimates 1985–86 and I do not propose to make any further statement.

    Major Precepting Authorities

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is meant by a major precepting authority, as referred to in his Department's press notice No. 276; and if he will list those he intends to have included on London borough rate demands for 1986–87.

    Major precepting authority means any county council, the receiver of the metropolitan police, and any new authority with power to issue precepts which it is proposed to establish by clause 67 of the Local Government Bill. In the case of a London borough it is intended that the rate demands will show the amounts in respect of the borough rate, the precepts of the receiver of the metropolitan police and of any new authority with the power to issue precepts as established by the Local Government Bill, including the Inner London Education Authority, and of any levy payable in respect of the residuary body established under the Bill or in respect of London regional transport.

    Capital Works (Grants)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) what grants were authorised to be paid by his Department for capital works carried out under the Civil Defence (Water Supplies) Regulations 1949 in each of the financial years 1978–79 to 1984–85, inclusive; to which authorities; and for what purposes;(2) what grants were authorised to be paid by his Department for capital works carried out under the Civil Defence (Sewerage) Regulations 1949 in each of the financial years 1978–79 to 1984–85, inclusive; to which authorities; and for what purposes.

    Grant authorised by my Department since 1978–79 for capital works relating to water authority civil defence functions has been for structural and accommodation works for new control centres as follows:

    Water AuthorityFinancial YearAmount of Grant (75 per cent. of cost)
    £
    Yorkshire1983–844,066
    1984–8533,434
    Anglian1983–8415,000
    1984–8575,000
    Wessex1983–849,576
    TOTAL137,076

    Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

    Chile

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what mechanisms and procedures the Government have to evaluate the effectiveness of their policy on human rights in Chile.

    Her Majesty's embassy in Santiago maintains contact with a wide variety of opinion in Chile and reports regularly on human rights issues. As I indicated to the House on 26 June, at column 407, we wish to encourage the process of restoring democratic freedoms in Chile.

    Argentina

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, pursuant to the answer to the hon. Member for Derbyshire, West (Mr. Parris) on 8 July, what evidence he has for stating that commercial and economic relations offer a natural opportunity for better relations with Argentina in relation to the Falkland Islands.

    The answer referred to by the hon. Member placed our action on imports from Argentina in the general context of restoring more normal relations between Britain and Argentina.As my right hon. and learned Friend told the House on 14 March, at column 498, both countries have a clear interest in improved trade. Both the Argentine Government and the IMF have stressed the need for Argentina to increase her exports. The removal of restrictions on trade would help to restore confidence between our two Governments and peoples.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, pursuant to his answer of 8 July to the hon. Member for Derbyshire, West (Mr. Parris) if he will estimate the benefits to employment in the United Kingdom to be derived from the lifting of restrictions on trade between the United Kingdom and Argentina.

    Our decision to lift the restrictions on imports from Argentina into the United Kingdom should have a beneficial effect on employment among importers and users of Argentine raw materials whose business had suffered as a result of the embargo. If, as we hope, the Argentine Government take reciprocal action, benefits to employment should be correspondingly greater. At this early stage the extent of these benefits cannot be quantified.

    Falkland Islands

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what progress has been made in seeking to establish a multilaterally-based fisheries conservation and management regime around the Falkland Islands.

    I would refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave the hon. Member for Knowsley, North (Mr. Robert Kilroy-Silk) on 3 July, at column 172.

    Human Rights

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will give, for judgments delivered by the European Court of Human Rights against signatory nations of the European Convention on Human Rights, the date of judgment, the name of the country affected, the articles in question, and brief details of the nature of the judgment since 1955, or such more recent date as information is readily available.

    The European Court of Human Rights has given judgments finding breaches of the convention in cases brought against Austria, Belgium, the FRG, Ireland, Italy, the Netherlands, Portugal, Sweden, Switzerland and the United Kingdom. A number of these countries have cases pending against them, as has France. The further information requested by my hon. Friend is being assembled and I shall arrange for it to be published in the Official Report.

    Namibia

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will set out the Government's position on meetings with the new interim Administration in Namibia and with the representatives of political parties in that country.

    As we have already made clear, we have not met and will not meet representatives of the so-called "interim administration" in Namibia. As in the past, we shall maintain informal contacts with all Namibian political parties, including both SWAPO and the internal parties.

    Departmental Broadcasting Responsibilities

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he is able to enlarge on the observations he made last October in reply to the Foreign Affairs Committee report on the Foreign and Commonwealth Office and Overseas Development Administration Supply Estimates 1984–85 concerning the transfer of his Department's broadcasting responsibilities to the British Broadcasting Corporation, Cmnd. 9367.

    After consultation with the BBC it has been decided that a full transfer is not feasible at this stage. In the meantime, we plan to rationalise the present arrangements as far as possible.We have agreed with the BBC board of governors arrangements whereby the BBC will provide management and technical support for the transmitting and relay station at Orfordness from April 1986. The relay station at Crowborough will be closed down in accordance with existing plans.There will be no change in our international agreements and the status of the British east Mediterranean relay station (BEMRS) in Cyprus and the British eastern relay station (BERS) in Oman will remain unchanged. The BBC will provide technical staff support where required by the FCO. Locally engaged staff at both these stations will continue to be employed under the same terms and conditions as before.Existing members of the FCO broadcasting group will be considered for transfer to other posts in the FCO, or to other Departments in the Civil Service or to the BBC if that is their wish. The BBC has confirmed that it will give sympathetic consideration to applications from any members of the broadcasting group who may wish to transfer to the BBC. Any member of the staff who cannot be found alternative employment will be eligible for premature retirement in accordance with the Civil Service model redundancy agreement.By reducing the present element of duplication in management, planning and engineering, the rationalisation programme is expected, on the basis of discounted cash flow calculations over 25 years at 1985 prices, to produce average annual savings of the order of £300,000 per annum with no reduction either in the current operational capability of external services broadcasting or in the improved audibility programme.It is considered that there would be advantage in consolidating the capital provisions for the BBC external services, which are currently divided between class II, vote 1 (Overseas Representation) and class II, vote 3 (BBC External Services). Accordingly, Parliament will be invited to vote the money required in 1986–87 on a single Supply Estimate which would be that covering the grant-in-aid of the BBC external services.

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    Nephrops

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what representations he has received about the proposed European Economic Community market support scheme for the nephrops industry; whether the scheme would be optional; whether under the scheme the grading by size of nephrops would be optional; what representations he has made to the European Economic Community Commission on this matter; and if he will make a statement.

    The Government have received a range of representations on market support for nephrops following the agreement on the accession of Spain and Portugal to the European Community.Discussions on the European Commission's detailed scheme for private storage aid for this species have only just commerced and I have undertaken to keep interested parties informed as they proceed.

    Vitamin E Information Exchange

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he has yet met representatives of the Vitamin E Information Exchange; and if he will make a statement.

    No. As I told the hon. Member in my reply of 10 May, at column 522, vitamin E is present in adequate amounts in any likely diet in this country.

    European Community Agricultural Budget

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will estimate the likely effect on the European Economic Community agricultural budget of a Soviet 1985 cereal harvest 25 million tons in excess of that in 1984; and what plans have been made to cope with this contingency.

    Sugar Prices

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will compare the European Economic Community price of sugar with that on the world market; and if he will make a statement including the cost to (a) the consumer and (b) the taxpayer of the current EC sugar regime.

    Agricultural Expenditure

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food which sectors of agricultural spending or spending related to agriculture were not covered by the 20·6 billion ecu limit agreed for agricultural spending in 1986 at the meeting of the Council of Finance Ministers on Monday 8 July; and if any limits have been fixed for spending in these excluded categories.

    The 20·6 billion ecu is the maximum level of expenditure from the guarantee section of the European agricultural guidance and guarantee fund (excluding fisheries) in 1986 calculated by the Commission for the Community of Ten in accordance with the financial guideline. It does not include expenditure from the guidance section of the fund (634 Mecu in 1984) or the items of agricultural expenditure financed from chapter 38 of section IIIB of the Community budget, notably animal health measures and agricultural research (56 Mecu in 1984).The amount of financial assistance that may be charged to the guidance section of the EAGGF is limited under article 6 of Regulation (EEC) No. 729/70, currently to 5,250 million ecu for the period 1985 to 1989. In addition all non-obligatory expenditure in the Community budget (which includes the majority of chapter 38 of IIIB and some of the guidance section) is subject to the maximum rate of increase provided for in article 203 of the EEC treaty.Community expenditure as a whole is covered by the reference framework which is established at the beginning of the budgetary procedure in accordance with the Council's conclusions on budget discipline.

    Milk Quota

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will make it his policy to seek to buy in enough milk quota to honour supplementary quota without any percentage discount.

    [pursuant to his reply, 10 July 1985]: I am very conscious that some producers have been hard hit by the cut-back on development awards and am looking at ways of helping them from within the quota presently available. But I can offer no prospect of a further injection of Government funds beyond that already announced to buy up more quota for this purpose.

    Scotland

    Hospital Beds

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many hospital beds are available in each health board area for elderly people in need of specialist care and attention.

    The staffed hospital beds available for elderly patients at 31 March 1984 (the latest available date) were as follows:

    Number
    Argyll and Clyde982
    Ayrshire and Arran705
    Borders241
    Dumfries and Galloway326
    Fife629
    Forth Valley589
    Grampian1,019
    Greater Glasgow2,173
    Highland404
    Lanarkshire968
    Lothian1,447
    Orkney51
    Shetland87
    Tayside887
    Western Isles104
    Scotland10,612

    Geriatric Care

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many nurses are in post in each health board area for the nursing of geriatric patients.

    The whole-time equivalent numbers of trained nurses and nursing auxiliaries employed in geriatric hospitals and in long-stay units mainly for geriatric patients at 30 September 1984 are as follows.

    Health BoardTrained Nurses (whole-time equivalent)Nursing Auxiliaries (whole-time equivalent)
    Argyll and Clyde153·0241·7
    Ayrshire and Arran181·0228·2
    Borders61·884·2
    Dumfries and Galloway61·937·6
    Fife75·363·4
    Forth Valley172·8254·0
    Grampian239·0242·5
    Greater Glasgow443·6623·9
    Highland73·067·4
    Lanarkshire302·3233·1
    Lothian301·3304·5
    Orkney

    Health Board

    Trained Nurses (whole-time equivalent)

    Nursing Auxiliaries (whole-time equivalent)

    Shetland
    Tayside274·0283·6
    Western Isles40·313·8
    Scotland2,379·32,677·9

    Statistics of nurses in training at these hospitals are not available. Geriatric patients are nursed also in general and geriatric beds in general and teaching hospitals, but the number of nursing staff involved cannot be separately identified.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many doctors with specialist qualifications are in post in each health board area for the treatment of geriatric patients.

    The number of consultants engaged wholly in geriatric medicine in Scotland as at 30 September 1984 is as follows. (Whole-time equivalent numbers are given in parenthesis.) Geriatric patients are also treated by consultants in many other specialties.

    Health BoardConsultants in
    geriatricmedicine
    Argyll and Clyde4(4·0)
    Ayrshire and Arran3(3·0)
    Borders2(2·0)
    Dumfries and Galloway2(2·0)
    Fife3(3·0)
    Forth Valley4(4·0)
    Grampian5(5·0)
    Greater Glasgow17(16·6)
    Highland2(2·0)
    Lanarkshire6(6·0)
    Lothian11(9·9)
    Orkney
    Shetland
    Tayside8(7·6)
    Western Isles1(1·0)
    Scotland68(66·2)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many elderly men and women are on the waiting list for treatment as geriatric patients in each area health board.

    The latest available information which relates to 31 March 1984, is as follows:

    Number on Waiting lists
    Ayrshire and Arran90
    Borders64
    Argyll and Clyde162
    Fife205
    Greater Glasgow0
    Highland75
    Lanarkshire508
    Grampian143
    Orkney57
    Lothian219
    Tayside145
    Forth Valley97
    Western Isles13
    Dumfries and Galloway29
    Shetland0
    ALL SCOTLAND1,807

    Lists tend to overstate numbers of patients waiting for treatment. It is not possible to provide separate figures for men and women.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what additional resources he proposes to make available to area health boards for the provision of additional beds and nursing for geriatric patients.

    The age structure of the population is one of the factors taken into account in determining the allocation among boards of resources for their hospital and community health services. For the current year, these resources have been increased by 5·5 per cent. in cash terms compared with 1984–85. In using these funds boards are expected to be guided by the recommendations in the report "Scottish Health Authorities' Priorities for the Eighties", which give high priority to services for the elderly.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will provide local authorities responsible for day centres for the elderly with additional resources to maintain and expand the service.

    The number of day centre places provided by local authorities has risen from 1,355 in 1979 to 1,845 in 1984. Over the same period, places in centres provided by voluntary agencies rose from 2,168 to 2,676. It is for authorities to determine local priorities, but the Government's planning figures for social work services will continue to take the needs of the elderly into account.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many elderly people are presently accommodated in local authority and voluntary old people's homes in each regional council area of Scotland.

    The information requested is as follows:

    Regional CouncilLocal Authority HomesRegistered Homes*No. of Residents aged over 65 years (Estimated at 31 March 1984)
    Borders296190486
    Central354216570
    Dumfries and Galloway296145441
    Fife610267877
    Grampian8766401,516
    Highland423220643
    Lothian1,1038431,946
    Strathclyde3,4521,6215,073
    Tayside8837411,624
    Orkney6666
    Shetland551671
    Western Isles150150
    TOTAL—SCOTLAND8,5644,89913,463
    * These are mainly homes run by voluntary bodies, but a small number of privately run homes are included

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many district nurses are available in each health board area to visit elderly sick people in their own homes.

    The whole-time equivalent number of district nurses available in each health board area in Scotland at 30 September 1984 is as follows:

    Health boardNumber of district nurses expressed as whole-time equivalents
    Argyll and Clyde161·3
    Ayr and Arran112·7
    Borders16·7
    Dumfries and Galloway30·5
    Fife156·1
    Forth Valley80·4
    Grampian193·9
    Greater Glasgow500·7
    Highland62·9
    Lanarkshire192·5
    Lothian238·4
    Orkney11·3
    Shetland6·5
    Tayside117·0
    Western Isles
    Scotland1,880·9
    The figures exclude the community nurses (670·0 whole-time equivalents) who combine midwifery, district nurse and health visitor duties.In 1984, 57·7 per cent. of visits by district nurses were to people aged 75 and over and 80·4 per cent. to people aged 65 and over.

    Health Boards (Expenditure)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in the Official Report the full text of all letters sent recently to health boards in Scotland instructing them to reduce their expenditure by 5 per cent.

    I wrote on 3 July to the chairmen of the five health boards which have been reluctant to test the cost effectiveness of their support services by seeking competitive tenders, requesting them to achieve by the end of the current financial year cash savings on their catering, domestic and laundry services equivalent to at least 5 per cent. of their expenditure on these services in 1984–85. These savings will remain available to the boards for their services to patients. I have placed copies of my letters in the Library.

    Edinburgh City Council

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what steps he has taken in respect of Edinburgh's budget; and if he will make a statement.

    On 22 May Edinburgh district council was notified that my right hon. Friend considered its planned expenditure for 1985–86 to be excessive and unreasonable and that he accordingly proposed to reduce the council's rate by 5·2p. The council submitted its representations on this proposal on 12 June and my right hon. Friend and I met representatives of the council to discuss these representations on 17 June. On 3 July my right hon. Friend laid before Parliament a report seeking approval to a reduction of 5·2p in the council's rate. On housing, following the report of the local inquiry on 20 May, my right hon. Friend made an order requiring the district council to revise its estimated rate contribution to its housing revenue account and to reduce the district rate by an additional 1·8p; the district council has refused to comply and the Lord Advocate has now applied to the Court of Session for an order of specific performance.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he has any plans to appoint a commissioner to run Edinburgh city council.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will meet a deputation of hon. Members from Edinburgh to discuss Edinburgh's budget.

    There will be a full debate in Parliament next week on my right hon. Friend's proposals to reduce the rate of Edinburgh district council, and hon. Members will have ample opportunity to make known their views. In these circumstances it does not seem necessary for my right hon. Friend to meet hon. Members at this stage.

    Police Vehicles

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) how many vehicles, which are not chargeable with vehicle excise duty by virtue of regulation 27 of the Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) Regulations 1971, are in the possession of each police authority in Scotland;(2) how many vehicles, which are not chargeable with vehicle excise duty by virtue of Regulation 27 of the Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) Regulations 1971, are in the possession of each local authority in Scotland.

    I have no reason to believe there are any such vehicles in Scotland at present.

    Primary And Secondary Schools

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list by region (a) the primary schools and (b) the secondary schools which were closed during 1983 and 1984.

    [pursuant to his reply, 17 June 1985, c. 32]: In the period September 1982 to September 1984 the following closures of schools or departments were reported:PRIMARY SCHOOLS

    Borders

    • Easter Langlee
    • Lamancha
    • Millburn
    • Stobo
    • Wester Langlee

    Dumfries and Galloway

    • Corrie
    • Langholm Academy*
    • Terregles
    • Thornhill, Wallace Hall Academy*

    Fife

    • Kirkcaldy, Torbain (Infant)

    Grampian

    • Burnside
    • Cummings Park
    • Inverdee
    • King Street
    • O'Neil Corse
    • Rosewood
    • Willowpark

    Highland

    • Glenborrodale†
    • Glenetive†
    • Glenfinnan†
    • Kingairlock†

    Lothian

    • Carrington
    • Drylaw
    • Groathill
    • Milton House
    • South Bridge
    • St. Patricks

    Strathclyde

    • Barnock
    • Biggar High*
    • Bluevale
    • Bunnahabhain (Islay)
    • Clydebank, Elgin Street
    • Dalleagles
    • East Kilbride, Allers
    • Girvan, Sacred Heart*
    • Glencroe
    • Hyde Park
    • Irvine, St. Mary's
    • Johnstone, St. Aidan's
    • Lesmahagow Secondary*
    • Our Lady of Fatima
    • Riddrie
    • St. Kentigern's
    • Thomson Street

    Tayside

    • Ardler
    • Balerno
    • Balgowan
    • Craichie
    • Fowlis Wester
    • Kingoldrum
    • Menmuir
    • Ruthven
    • Tibbermore
    • Tullibardine

    Shetland

    • Gruting

    Western Isles

    • Baleshare
    • Northton (Harris)
    • Uig

    * Primary Departments only closed, Secondary Departments remained open.

    † Temporary closure only.

    SECONDARY SCHOOLS

    Central

    • Alloa, St Mungo's‡

    Dumfries and Galloway

    • Cargenbridge‡

    Grampian

    • New Pitsligo and St John's‡
    • Roseheartyi‡

    Strathclyde

    • Adelphi Secondary
    • Riverside Secondary

    Secondary Departments only closed, Primary, Departments remained open.

    Note: Some schools reported as closures may have been incorporated into a new school/department.

    Northern Ireland

    Sinn Fein

    15.

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will now ban Sinn Fein.

    Housing (Category 3 Repairs)

    16.

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what is the average length of time taken by the Housing Executive to complete a category 3 repair.

    These are non-essential repairs not requiring immediate attention. They are grouped with similar requests and carried out as part of planned maintenance schemes. The chairman of the Northern Ireland Housing Executive has advised me that information on the average length of time for such repairs is not readily available.

    Agriculture

    17.

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will make a statement on the future prospects for Northern Ireland agriculture.

    The agriculture industry will continue to make a vital contribution to the well-being of Northern Ireland. The industry faces significant pressures at present, but I expect it to remain a strong and stable sector of economic activity in Northern Ireland, to which this Government attach considerable priority.

    Home Improvement Grants

    18.

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if Government proposals to means test home improvement grants will be applied to Northern Ireland; and if he will make a statement.

    The Government's proposals for restructuring of home improvement policy in Great Britain have not been finalised. When they are, I will consider them in relation to Northern Ireland's special housing needs.

    Departmental Staff

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what manpower his Department has achieved in 1984–85.

    For the Northern Ireland Office the position is as follows:

    Staff in post
    1 April 19841 April 1985
    Home civil servants181175
    Northern Ireland civil servants1,2291,185
    Northern Ireland prison service2,9883,087
    The increase reflects continued recruitment for the Northern Ireland prison service.On 1 April 1984 the staff in post in the Northern Ireland Departments numbered 25,145; on 31 March 1985 the total was 24,909.

    Gas And Oil Exploitation

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (1) what geological surveys have been carried out off the North Antrim coast to investigate the reserves of gas and oil; and if he will make a statement;

    (2) what applications for licences have been made for gas and oil exploration off the North Antrim coast; which applications have been granted; and which refused, giving in each case the grounds for refusal.

    Two offshore seismic surveys have been completed by companies which held petroleum licences for areas of land and sea along the north coast of Counties Antrim and Londonderry. Much more prospecting will have to be undertaken in this area before there will be any indication of its potential for gas or oil.A petroleum licence covering an area of 138 sq miles onshore and offshore centred on Rathlin Island was applied for and granted in 1980 but was revoked on 28 June 1985 as a consequence of non-fulfilment of licence commitments. Three competing applications were received for an area of 545 sq miles onshore and offshore along the north coast of Counties Antrim and Londonderry. In 1980 these were assessed on the basis of the proposed programmes, the technical competence of the applicants, their financial resources and their exploration experience. A licence for the area was granted in 1982.

    "Come On Northern Ireland"

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (1) how much the Industrial Development Board's "Come on Northern Ireland" advertising campaign on commercial broadcasting outlets has cost to date indicating the cost of producing the commercials, the cost of advertising them on independent television and independent radio; and how much more is to be spent on this campaign;(2) how much the Industrial Development Board has spent on promotional advertising in local newspapers, provincial newspapers, British national newspapers, Irish national newspapers and foreign newspapers, respectively, on the "Come on Northern Ireland" campaign; and how much more is to be spent in this way in the remainder of this financial year;(3) if he will make a statement on the purpose of the "Come on Northern Ireland" advertising campaign run by the Industrial Development Board and on its achievements to date.

    The aim of the "Come on Northern Ireland" campaign is to create a greater awareness of the role of the Industrial Development Board and to stimulate good will, support and involvement of all sections of the community in the effort to bring about the regeneration of the Northern Ireland economy. Follow-up research has indicated that it has been broadly successful in its aim. There are complementary campaigns aimed at local industry and overseas investors using the themes "With a little help from your friends" and "Judge us on the facts," respectively.The total cost of the local TV campaign for 1984–85 was £124,000 including VAT (production £55,000, screen time £69,000). The budget for 1985–86 allocated for this campaign is £45,000 which is mostly for screening. There has been no radio advertising. The Industrial Development Board budget for newspaper advertising, the bulk of which relates to the drive for inward investment, has been as follows:

    Type of Newspaper1984–851985–86
    ££
    NI Local (including provincial)35,00080,000
    British National192,00067,000
    Irish NationalNilNil
    USA/Canadian310,000777,000
    European232,000135,000
    Far Eastern50,000158,000

    Heavy Vehicles

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many prosecutions have been made under the Road Traffic, Transport and Roads (NI) Order 1984 against persons who have driven heavy vehicles on the public highway which have been in excess of the permitted maximum axle weight; and in how many cases a conviction resulted.

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what is the maximum penalty for driving a heavy commercial vehicle on the public highway in excess of the maximum permitted axle weight; in how many cases conviction has been followed by the imposition of the maximum penalty; and how many convictions were of Northern Ireland and of Republic of Ireland residents.

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what is the present maximum axleweight upon which a heavy commercial vehicle may travel on public roads in Northern Ireland; and how this limit has changed in the last five years.

    10,500 kg, which represents one increase from 10,170 kg in the previous five years.

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (1) what additional resources have been made available to enforce the provisions of the Road Traffic, Roads and Transport (NI) Order 1984 with regard to vehicle inspection and illegal parking of heavy commercial vehicles;(2) how many prosecutions have been made under the Road Traffic, Transport and Roads (NI) Order 1984 against persons who have parked heavy vehicles on verges or footways; in how many cases a conviction resulted; and how many of those convicted were resident within Northern Ireland and how many in the Republic of Ireland;(3) what is the maximum penalty for parking a heavy vehicle on a verge or footway; and, in how many cases a conviction has been followed by the imposition of the maximum penlty.

    Bomb Attacks (Newry And Killeen)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will call for a report from the Chief Constable of the Royal Ulster Constabulary on the investigation into the mortar attacks at Newry and the car bomb attacks at the courthouse in Newry on 3 April and at Killeen on 20 May, indicating how many investigating officers were involved, their ranks, how many hours they spent on this inquiry, whether they sought to reconstruct the scenes of the incidents concerned, how many pages their report to the Chief Constable occupied, what conclusions were reached in their report about the operational dispositions of the police before, during and after each incident, what recommendations were made to the Chief Constable, and to what extent these have been implemented; and if he will make a statement on the substance of the report, with particular reference to the adequacy of the personal protection provided to the police officers incolved.

    Flags And Emblems Act

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland whether he proposes to seek to repeal the Flags and Emblems Act.

    We have no plans to do so. The Act does not ban the peaceful flying of the Irish tricolour in Northern Ireland but we keep the need for, and use of, the Act under review, particularly in the light of the Government's commitment to recognise and respect the identities of both traditions in Northern Ireland.

    Criminal Injuries (Compensation)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland when he expects to publish his proposals for amending the Criminal Injuries (Compensation) (N.I.) Order 1977; and at what date he intends that the new provisions shall be used as a basis for compensation.

    [pursuant to his reply, 9 July 1985]: My right hon. Friend hopes to publish proposals for the amendment of the order, including proposed operative dates, later this year.

    Social Services

    Ld50 Test

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if a decision has now been reached in consultation with the Medicines Commission to amend the "Biological Compendium" to replace the LD50 animal test for the antibiotic dactinomycin with an alternative such as high pressure liquid chromatography; and if he will make a statement.

    Yes. We have decided, after consultation with the Medicines Commission, that the LD50 animal test should no longer be required for dactinomycin. Reference to the test will be deleted from the "Compendium of Licensing Requirements for the Manufacturing of Certain Biological Medicinal Products".

    Social Security Review

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) whether it is envisaged that the proposed rate for teenagers referred to in paragraph 2.77 of "Reform of Social Security" (Cmnd. 9518) will include 13 to 17-year-olds, or 13 to 19-year-olds or some other age range;

    (2) whether, under the proposals in the Green Paper, "The Reform of Social Security", it is intended that non-dependant 16 and 17-year-olds should receive the same rate of income support as that payable for dependent teenagers.

    The Green Paper, "Reform of Social Security" contains no proposals on the eligibility to benefit of young people but invites views on changing the structure of the scale rates for children. We will consider detailed arrangements for the support of children and young people in the light of the comments received.

    Retirement Pensioners

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the estimated number of retirement pensioners who will lose benefit as a result of (a) the difference between the 7 per cent. uprating of the basic retirement pension and the 5·8 per cent. rise in the housing benefit needs allowance, (b) the change to the housing benefit taper, and (c) the combination of both of these; and what is the estimated average loss of benefit in each case.

    A precise estimate of the numbers whose benefit will be affected by the difference between the increase in the retirement pension and the housing benefit needs allowance could be obtained only at disproportionate cost. The different increases arise from the different uprating factors which have been used for several years to calculate changes in benefits and allowances. This year single pensioners will normally gain as a result of this difference, while the reduction in housing benefit for a pensioner couple will not normally exceed 18 pence a week for a tenant, and five pence a week for an owner occupier.An estimated 1·5 million pensioners will be affected by the change to the rates taper above the needs allowance, and on average their housing benefit will be 47 pence a week less than it would otherwise have been. The differences in increases to the retirement pension and the needs allowance will mean that the effect of the change in the rates taper will normally be a little less for a single pensioner and slightly greater for a pensioner couple.

    Benefits (Uprating)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services for each of the upratings proposed for July 1986 and April 1987, which month's retail price index will be used to determine the uprating and when each uprating will be announced; and if he will estimate the extra cost of the upratings compared with an uprating in November 1986 and 1987 assuming that inflation is a constant 5 per cent. throughout the relevant period, in each of the financial years 1985–86, 1986–87 and 1987–88.

    I refer the hon. Member to my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Brighton, Kempton, on 25 June at column 381. The uprating would be announced, as at present, shortly after the publication of the retail prices index for the relevant month. Expenditure in 1985–86 is not affected. On the assumption given, there would be an additional cost in 1986–87 of about £150 million. In 1987–88 the effect would be broadly neutral.

    Prisons

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services to what extent the terms of reference of community health councils include the oversight of the prison medical service where there is one of Her Majesty's Prisons in their locality; and whether he will enter into consultations with a view to clarifying their terms of reference.

    Community health councils have a duty to represent the interests in the health service of the public in their districts. This does not extend to the prison medical service, for which my right hon. and learned Friend the Home Secretary is accountable to Parliament. Medical facilities in individual establishments are subject to scrutiny by boards of visitors and inspection by Her Majesty's Chief Inspector of Prisons, whose reports to my right hon. and learned Friend are published.

    Natural Medicines

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what progress he and his officials are making in resolving the difficulties facing the manufacturers of natural, homoeopathic and herbal medicines, resulting from his Department's proposals to remove licences from certain categories of natural medicines;(2) if he will make a statement on his policy towards natural medicines, the likely effect of the current review under the Medicines Act on their future and his assessment of their contribution to the health of the nation;(3) when he proposes to appoint specialists in the practice of natural, homoeopathic and herbal medicine to the Medicines Commission, the Committee for the Review of Medicines and the Committee on Safety of Medicines;(4) if he will take steps to form a committee of advisers expert in the practice of natural, homoeopathic and herbal medicine, in accordance with the provisions of the Medicines Act 1968;(5) if he will list the specialists in the practice of natural, homoeopathic and herbal medicine who now advise him on the Medicines Commission, the Committee for the Review of Medicines and the Committee on Safety of Medicines, according to the provisions of the Medicines Act 1968.

    I welcome the opportunity to make clear the Government's position on the important issues raised by my hon. Friend. We wholeheartedly support the freedom of the individual to seek the benefits of alternative medicines and therapies. The Medicines Act 1968 contains specific provisions to ensure that doctors and pharmacists can supply individual patients with whatever medicine they believe is needed including alternative medicines and there are also specific provisions for herbal products. My hon. friend can be assured that it is not our intention to use this legislation to restrict the general availability of alternative medicines.Under European Community requirements, it is necessary for medicinal products already on the market when the licensing system began for new products in 1971, to be reviewed by 1990. This requirement includes herbal medicines. It does not include homoeopathic or other alternative medicines which will not be reviewed until after 1990 unless in a particular case there is a specific safety hazard.

    The review is being carried out by our Department as licensing authority under the Medicines Act, with the advice of the Committee on the Review of Medicines and, where appropriate, of the Medicines Commission. Of particular importance in this review are the safety and quality of medicines publicly available and on this we need the advice of doctors and pharmacists in our Department and on the advisory bodies, who are experts on the possible adverse effects of substances on the human body and on the safeguards needed in manufacture of medicines. As regards efficacy, it is proposed that for herbal medicines, and other medicines, intended for minor self-limiting conditions, the licensing authority should not require formal clinical trials, which are considered necessary when claims are made for serious illness. Instead the authority would rely, where appropriate, on existing bibliographical information. We are engaged in discussions on these matters with representatives of herbal manufacturers and others concerned.

    Membership of the Committee on the Review of Medicines includes a pharmacist who has expertise in herbal products and pharmacognosy. We do not consider it necessary now to alter the membership of advisory bodies or to increase their number. But there are wide powers to add to the membership of these bodies either temporarily or permanently as the need arises and we shall keep this matter under careful scrutiny in the coming years.

    We are confident that it will be possible to deal with the public sale and supply of alternative medicines in a way which recognises the special factors which apply in this area, but which also recognises the public expectation that medicines on public sale or supply shall satisfy adequate standards of safety and quality and shall not make claims, especially for serious conditions, unless these are well-founded.

    If there are any particular difficulties as regards licences for alternative medicines that my hon. Friend wishes to raise with me, I shall be glad to hear from him.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he has any plans to amend Statutory Instrument No. 41 of 1975 concerning the Medicines Act 1968.

    I assume my hon. Friend is referring to statutory instrument No. 41 of 1978 — the Medicines (Labelling and Advertising to the Public) Regulations. We are currently considering amendments to this legislation and these were the subject of a consultation letter sent to all interested organisations in May 1983 (reference MLX 148). Copies are in the Library.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what discussions he has had with expert advisers on natural, homoeopathic and herbal medicine represented on the Medicines Commission, the Committee for the Review of Medicines and the Committee on Safety of Medicines, about whether there are safe natural medicines available in the treatment of intestinal colic in young babies which avoid the side effects of the drug Dicyclomine.

    I have held no such discussions. There are no natural products which have full product licences for use in the treatment of intestinal colic in young babies. If a company thinks they have a product which is safe and efficacious in the treatment of this condition they can apply for a product licence and their data in support of the application will be considered. Any licences of right for natural products used in the treatment of infant colic will eventually be considered by the licensing authority and if necessary by the Committee on the Review of Medicines.

    Unemployment Benefit

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services under what circumstances a claimant can work on (a) Saturdays, (b) Sundays and (c) after normal working hours and continue to claim full unemployment benefit.

    Unemployment benefit is a daily benefit payable for six days a week for Monday to Saturday. A claimant can work on those days and continue to receive benefit only if his earnings do not exceed £2 for the day, he is available to be employed full-time on that day, and the work done is not in his usual main occupation (unless it is done for, for example, a charity). Whether the work is done after normal hours is irrelevant. Work on a Sunday does not affect unemployment benefit because benefit is not payable for that day.In addition to this, it is a basic principle of the unemployment benefit system that benefit should not be paid for days on which a claimant would not normally be employed. Thus, if he has worked to the full extent that he would normally work in a week, benefit is not payable for the days on which he does not work. In this context it does not matter whether the work is done on Sunday or other days, or at what hours. Whether a person has worked to his full normal extent is a question for decision by the independent statutory authorities on the facts of the particular case.

    Health Visitors

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the present level of recruitment into the nursing speciality of health visitor.

    The number of health visitors (including field work teachers and multiple duty staff) employed by the National Health Service in England at 30 September 1983, the latest year for which detailed information is available, was 9,708, an increase of 2·2 per cent. over the previous year. We are advised by the English National Board for Nursing Midwifery and Health Visiting that the number of health visitors entering training in England in the year ended 31 March 1985 was 848 compared with 925 in 1984. It is for health authorities to decide, in the light of local priorities and the resources available to them, how many health visitors they should employ and how many trainees they should recruit to meet service needs. A recent survey for the Review Body for Nursing Staff, Midwives and Health Visitors showed that only 1·2 per cent. of all whole-time equivalent funded posts for health visitors remained vacant for over three months.

    Ex Gratia Payments

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will place in the Library a copy of the document setting out his Department's policy on ex gratia payments.

    Our policy is not set out in any single document, but is based on the reports made by the Public Accounts Committee over the years and on precedents agreed with the Treasury in individual cases. In general terms, an ex gratia payment may be made when a member of the public has suffered measurable loss as a direct result of Departmental maladministration, but if the hon. Member has any particular case in mind perhaps he would write to me.

    Abortions

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1), pursuant to his reply of 2 July, Official Report, column 59, if he will make regulations under the Abortion Act 1967 to provide that in the case of an abortion performed between 24 and 28 weeks of pregnancy, the doctor who performs the abortion shall specifically certify all cases where the grounds for the abortion under section 1(1)(a) of the Act relate solely to the sex of the unborn child; and if he will make a statement;(2) if he will introduce legislation to render unlawful abortion on grounds which relate solely to the sex of the unborn child; and if he will make a statement.

    Abortion on grounds relating to the sex of the foetus is not provided for in the Abortion Act and is therefore already unlawful.

    Private Patients (Sheffield)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what information he has as to the number of private patients in the Sheffield area health authority who have changed status to National Health Service patients within one episode of treatment in the last three years;(2) what was the cost to the Sheffield area health authority of private patients who have changed status to National Health Service patients within one episode of treatment in the last three years for which figures are available.

    We do not collect centrally such detailed local information. The hon. Member may therefore wish to make inquiries of the chairman of Sheffield district health authority.

    Waiting Lists (Sheffield)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what were the average National Health Service waiting lists in the Sheffield area health authority for the last three years for which figures are available in orthopaedics, gynaecology, general medicine, ear nose and throat, dermatology, general surgery, geriatrics and heart surgery.

    The available information is given in the table. In general, figures on waiting lists are believed to include a significant proportion of duplicated entries and patients who no longer require treatment. About half of all admissions to hospital are immediate and many of those on waiting lists already have a planned date of admission.

    Sheffield District Health Authority

    Number of persons on in-patient waiting lists

    31 March

    30 September

    31 December

    Orthopaedics

    1982*2,9993,6933,733
    19833,7393,7243,774
    19843,5273,670†3,509
    1985†3,462n/an/a

    Gynaecology

    1982*1,0511,7171,735
    19831,6371,3571,234
    19841,2411,248†1,293
    1985†1,156n/an/a

    General medicine

    1982*204141
    1983222333
    19842117†26
    1985†16n/an/a

    Ear, nose and throat

    1982*6501,0491,004
    19831,015933874
    1984799650†597
    1985677n/an/a

    Dermatology

    1982*361842
    1983321018
    19843520†13
    1985†9n/an/a

    General surgery

    1982*1,8752,7882,643
    19832,4562,5792,468
    19842,4242,739†2,902
    1985†2,581n/an/a

    Geriatrics

    1982*628588
    1983845414
    19841410†87
    1985†niln/an/a

    Thoracic surgery

    1982*162240246
    1983234233215
    1984233161†177
    1985†227n/an/a

    * In general figures were affected by industrial action in the NHS in 1982.

    † Provisional figures.
    n/a=Not available.

    Nurses

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish in the Official Report a table showing the average weekly pay of a student nurse in each of the three stages of training; and how this compares with each of the last 10 years.

    I refer the hon. Member to my reply to him on 21 June at columns 255–256.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many hospital beds and qualified nurses there are per head of population according to each health authority; and how this compares with each of the last 10 years.

    I shall let the hon. Member have such information as can be obtained without incurring disproportionate cost as soon as possible.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the average number of hours overtime worked per week by (a) a first year student nurse,(b) a second year student nurse and (c) a third year student nurse in the last year for which figures are available.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish in the Official Report as much information as is in his possession about the average hours of work of a student nurse according to each of the three stages of training; and how this compares with each of the last six years.

    I refer the hon. Member to my reply to him on 28 June at columns 530–531. We do not hold such information centrally.

    Woodgrange Park House (Ministerial Visit)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement about the ministerial visit to his Department's office at Woodgrange Park House on 4 July.

    As part of a programme of visits by Ministers to local social security offices throughout the country, I went to the Woodgrange Park office on 4 July. I had useful discussions with many of the staff working in the office. I take this opportunity to record my appreciation of the dedication of these staff and of the staff of our other offices. I regret that because a minority of the staff decided to strike and join a demonstration outside the office, in which the hon. Member for Newham North West (Mr. Banks) also participated, the office was closed to the public until midday and claimants were inconvenienced. I spoke to the strikers at the end of my visit.

    Mrs Maria Shah

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when the hon. Member for Newham, North-West may expect to receive a reply to the letter sent to his Department on 14 November 1984 regarding the case of Mrs. Maria Shah.

    I shall ensure that the hon. Member receives an early reply and would refer him to the answers I gave him on 1 July at columns 60–61.

    Broadmoor

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will take steps to prevent patients at Broadmoor from being allowed out on visits;(2) why patients from Broadmoor were recently allowed to visit Windsor; and if he will make a statement.

    Visits outside Broadmoor hospital and the other special hospitals are an important element in patient rehabilitation programmes. The visit to Windsor to which my hon. Friend refers took place in July 1984 without any complaint from anyone at the time. Decisions on patient outings or other visits are matters for the clinical judgment of responsible medical officers. In the case of restricted patients, absences from the hospital require the approval of my right hon. and learned Friend, the Home Secretary. Patients taking part in group outings are escorted continuously by nurses from the hospitals. I am quite satisfied that there is no unacceptable degree of risk to the public from such visits.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how long trusted patients are allowed to stay in Broadmoor on average before being transferred to ordinary psychiatric hospitals.

    A research study of departures from the four special hospitals covering the years 1978 to 1982 showed the average length of stay of the patients who left in each of those years was:

    Years
    19787·83
    19797·48
    19808·95
    19818·19
    19828·63
    Steps will be taken to transfer a patient to another hospital as soon as it is agreed that he or she no longer requires the high level of security of a special hospital.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many patients were released from Broadmoor in each of the past five years; and whether any of them were recidivists.

    The numbers of patients who left the hospital were as follows:

    Broadmoor Hospital
    19801981198219831984
    Transferred to NHS hospitals whilst still detained under the Mental Health Act3356303036
    Discharged into the community1912221111
    Returned to prison41663
    TOTAL5669584750
    If my hon. Friend has in mind criminal records prior to admission, I am not able to give the further information requested. While the majority of patients in special hospitals were sent there by court orders or on transfer from prison, about 20 per cent. of these patients were admitted from other hospitals solely on account of the severity of their mental disorder and not as a consequence of appearance before a court.

    Mental Health Review Tribunals

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he is satisfied with the working of the mental health review tribunals established under the Mental Health Act 1983.

    Supplementary Benefit

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, pursuant to his reply of 1 July, Official Report, columns 45–46, how many households recorded in the annual statistics inquiry for December 1983 were having deductions made from their supplementary benefit for electricity and how many for gas in £1·00 bands above £12·00 per week.

    I shall let the hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible as far as deductions for electricity are concerned. Because of the sample size, a reliable breakdown cannot be made in bands over £12 per week of deduction for gas.

    Diabetes

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what provision his Department is making for improving education on diabetes to patients and their families; and what advice he has given to regional health authorities on providing education programmes for diabetics.

    Clearly the education of diabetics about the condition and its implications is an important part of their treatment. It must be a matter for the doctor responsible for the patient to ensure that the patient is fully informed and trained to cope with this condition.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what provision his Department is making for promoting the screening of eyes of diabetics.

    There is growing acceptance within the Health Service of the importance of screening patients with diabetes for diabetic retinopathy, a major cause of visual handicap. The Department is funding a multicentre project to establish the most effective means of organising screening programmes.

    Social Security Review

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will expand on the description of claimants who have no recent links with the United Kingdom given in paragraph 2.87 of Cmnd. 9518;(2) whether the presence test mentioned in paragraph 2.87 of the Green Paper on "Reform of Social Security", Cmnd. 9518, will exclude claimants who have gone abroad for long periods to visit or care for relatives;(3) whether the presence test mentioned in paragraph 2.87 of the Green Paper on "Reform of Social Security", Cmnd. 9518, will include a reference to a claimant's immigration status.

    Nhs (Private Contractors)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what recent representations he has received concerning the inclusion of Whitley council conditions of service and rates of pay in contracts between the National Health Service and private contractors.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what information he has as to how many current contracts between district health authorities and private contractors (a) include, and (b) exclude, Whitley council conditions of service and rates of pay.

    We are not aware how many health authorities have let contracts with such conditions included, but none should have done so. We have informed health authorities that it is quite wrong to try to interfere in this way in the relationship between a contractor and his employees. We do not approve of or support any attempt by a health authority to try to enforce such conditions.

    Medicines (Ingredients)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will take steps to require drug manufacturers to specify each of the contents of proprietary medicines.

    I assume the right hon. Member is referring to medicines purchased over the counter. Regulations already require the active ingredients to be stated on labels and leaflets. We are presently looking at the practicality of requiring some inactive ingredients—for example, colouring agents — to be declared where these are known to cause reactions in certain people.

    Housing Benefit

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will take steps to alter the housing benefit regulations that cover non householders over 18 years on youth training schemes to provide that housing benefit their parents receive is not reduced on the assumption that they are wage-earners.

    Regulation 20(8) of the Housing Benefits Regulations 1985 provides that no deduction shall be made from housing benefit in respect of a non-dependant who is in receipt of a training allowance paid by the Manpower Services Commission in connection with a youth training scheme.

    Defence

    Cruise Missiles

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether Her Majesty's Government have been consulted by the United States administration about planned future improvements in the range and capability of cruise missiles based in the United Kingdom; and if he will make a statement.

    I understand from the United States authorities that no such improvements that are of material significance are currently planned.

    Chemical Weapons

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if in the light of the recent United States House of Representatives decision on 20 June to authorise funds for offensive chemical weapons on condition that Britain agrees to store them, it remains his policy to oppose the storage of chemical weapons in Britain; and if he will make the position of Her Majesty's Government on this issue known to both the members of the United States Congress and to the United States administration.

    The position on the storage of United States chemical weapons in Britain is that no such request has been made to us, as I said to my hon. Friend the Member for Bexleyheath on 26 March (Vol. 76, columns 180–1).

    Exercise Brave Defender

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether any restrictions on civil liberties are envisaged in the exercise brave defender scenario; and if he will make a statement.

    The detailed exercise scenario is classified. However, as my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Defence stated on 21 March 1985 (Vol. 75, columns 585–6) Exercise Brave Defender will test the revised home defence plans described in paragraph 413 of the "Statement on the Defence Estimates 1984" (Cmnd. 9227).

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the most recent estimate of the cost of exercise brave defender; and if he will provide a breakdown.

    I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to the hon. Member for Meirionnydd Nant Conwy (Mr. Thomas) on 25 February 1985, at column 83. Approximately two thirds of the £3 million is attributable to additional manpower and associated costs, such as travel; the remainder covers additional logistic support.

    Annual Awards

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he has any plans to review the annual award to holders of, or widows of holders of, the Victoria Cross and George Cross; and if he will make a statement.

    We have no plans at present to review the annuity associated with the Victoria Cross.The George Cross is, of course, primarily intended for civilians, and questions relating to its associated pension are a matter for my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister.

    Explosives And Ammunition

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what measures are taken to ensure that the criteria governing the storage, processing and handling of conventional military explosives and ammunition are up to date.

    The explosives storage and transport committee periodically reviews procedures for Ministry of Defence-owned munitions to ensure that they are in accordance with the best advice available in explosives safety. The latest of these reviews, in which the Health and Safety Executive is fully involved, has just started. An independent adviser, Mr. Bryan Harvey, has been appointed by my noble Friend the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for the Armed Forces to whom he will be able to report directly on progress.

    Soviet Weaponry

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the scope and nature of Soviet activities in the field of space weapons and ballistic missile defence.

    Soviet space and ballistic missile defence programmes are extensive and have been in existence since the 1960s, and only recently the Soviet Defence Minister has confirmed that the Russians are conducting outer space military research. They possess and are upgrading around Moscow the world's only system of active anti-ballistic missile defences, which employs nuclear-tipped missiles capable of destroying targets outside the atmosphere. They have an operational anti-satellite system. They are also conducting substantial programmes on advanced technologies relevant to ballistic missile defence, including high-powered lasers, kinetic energy and particle beam weapons, and heavy lift space launchers. In fact, since 1976 they have conducted more than twice as many launches as the rest of the world put together, about 80 per cent. of them military in nature. We are considering whether further information can be made available on the extent of Soviet ballistic missile defence activity. This subject is also dealt with in the United States Government's publication "Soviet Military Power: 1985," a it copy of which is in the Library and with whose assessment on this subject we are generally in agreement.

    Engagements

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will state his official engagements for Monday 8 July.

    In the morning I had meetings with the Indonesian Minister of Research and Technology, the United States Under Secretary of Defence Policy, ministerial colleagues and others, and I later attended a meeting with my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister and the chiefs of staff. I had further meetings in the afternoon.