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Volume 89: debated on Friday 17 January 1986

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Written Answers To Questions

Friday 17 January 1986

Education And Science

Teachers' Pay

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the total annual expenditure on wages and salaries of (a)primary and secondary teachers, (b) university teachers and (c)other higher education teachers; and what are the total numbers employed in each group.

:The information is given in the following table. The figures are for 1983–84, the latest year for which data on all the categories is generally available.

1983–84 (England)
Teacher Numbers(000's, full-time equivalents)*Annual expenditure on wages and salaries†‡(£million)
(a)Primary and secondary teachers408·84,500
(b)University teachers║ (GB)30·2583
(c)Other higher education teachers¶25·9426
* Teacher numbers as at January 1984.
†‡All figures include the cost of employers' national insurance and superannuation contributions.
‡Expenditure figures are on a financial year basis for (a)and (c), and on an academic year basis for (b).
║Includes research staff wholly finaned by universities, not full-time equivalent.
¶Polytechnic lecturers and lecturers undertaking advanced further education work in other major establishments of further education.
Average cost per pupil1979–801980–81*1981–82*1982–83*1983–84
(£ Cash England)
Maintained Schools
Nursery schools8159901,1101,1401,230
Primary schools
—age classes430545620680730
—Nursery classes520640725795855
—Ordinary classes430545615675725
Secondary schools
—all pupils6107708709451,015
—11–16 pupils580730825895965
—16+ pupils1,0251,2401,3201,4351,545
Special education1,9302,4552,7603,0603,265
Assisted Places
—all pupilsn/an/a1,0981,2671,303
*The maintained school data relate to Financial Years and the assisted places to Academic Years.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the net recurrent cost per pupil in nursery schools, nursery classes and primary schools; and what proportion of that cost is attributed to teachers' salaries.

Schools (Morning Worship)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what steps he proposes to take to ensure that local education authorities comply with their obligations under the Education Act 1944 on morning worship in schools.

We have already made it clear in the White Paper, "Better Schools" (Cmnd. 9469) that we look to local education authorities and to the schools to ensure that the statutory requirements are met.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what information he has as to the extent of non-observance in some schools of the statutorily required daily act of worship; and if he will make a statement.

Information about such matters is not collected centrally; but where complaints are made to my right hon. Friend that the requirements of the Education Act 1944 on collective worship are not being met in a particular school, he obtains details of the circumstances of the individual case.

Pupil Costs

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) what is the average cost per pupil of children in (i) maintained primary schools, (ii) maintained secondary schools, (iii) maintained sixth forms, (iv) assisted places pupils up to school leaving age and (v) asisted places pupils after school leaving age for the last five years for which data is available;(2) what is the average cost per pupil in

(a) nursery schools, (b)nursery classes, (c)primary schools, (d)secondary schools, (e)sixth form colleges and (f) special schools for the latest year for which figures are available.

The information is as follows:

(1983–84 £ cash) England
Total net re- current cost per pupil Teachers' salaries as per cent. of total cost
££
Nursery schools1,23044
Primary schools
-age classes73069
-Nursery classes85552
-Ordinary classes72570

School Meals

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) if he will publish figures or

Total net expenditure (total subsidy)Income from chargesEstimated subsidy on free meals†Pupils receiving meals
Cash*Real terms IndexCash*Real terms IndexCash*Real termsIndexTotalFree
£million£ million£ million£ million£million£millionper cent.per cent.
1975–76318·4810·8100135·1344010058·2148·210070·39·2
1976–77382·0859·6106129·1290·58470·6158·910769·49·8
1977–78364·5720·289154·4305·18996·8191·312961·711·8
1978–79388·4693·786100185·3331·096118·3211·314310065·913·9
1979–80421·7644·58093205·7314·491113·9174·11178264·111·9
1980–81397·4511·36374217·5279·881124·7160·41087648·29·9
1981–82396·6463·65767214·0250173147·4172·31168249·011·9
1982–83411·3449·15565210·4229·767174·8190·81299049·413·9
1983·84426·6445·85564200·5209·561199·8208·81419951·415·9
1984–85n.a.n.a.n.a.51·317·4
Notes:
* Real terms are the cash figures adjusted to 1984–85 prices using the GDP deflator at market prices.
†The gross expenditure on all meals has been apportioned to free meals for pupils in the ratio of free meals for pupils to total pupil meals.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science which local education authorities do not provide a schools meals service to pupils other than those entitled to a free school meal.

Only three of the 97 LEAs in England do not provide a full primary and secondary school meals service. These are Dorset and Lincolnshire, who supply paid meals only in secondary and special schools; and Hereford and Worcester, whose paid meal service is restricted to special schools.All three also have self-help groups operating in some primary schools, and in Hereford and Worcester some schools are supplied by commercial catering firms.

Higher Education (Non-Standard Entrants)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what was the proportion of students entering higher education who can be classified as non-standard entrants in each year since 1979.

The proportions of home students entering university undergraduate courses in Great Britain

Students from abroad: Great Britain
Thousands
19741975197619771978197919801981198219831984
Universities29·532·935·637·238·537·735·834·633·333·834·6
Public sector higher education12·216·821·222·422·121·019·718·615·313·813·6
Non-advanced further education21·626·827·727·527·126·619·511·18·17·87·3

estimates for each of the last 10 years showing the revenue raised from school meal charges, the subsidy paid on school meals, and the expenditure on free meals at (a)cash prices, (b)1984-85 prices and (c)indexed, using 1975–76 as the base;

(2) what was (a)the total Government expenditure on school meals and (b)expenditure on free school meals for each year since 1978-79 to the latest available date, expressed in cash terms, real terms using 1984-85 prices, and indexed using 1978–79 as the base; what was the proportion of the school population receiving school meals during the period; and what was the proportion receiving free school meals.

The information that is available is as follows:and CNAA first degree courses in England who did not have two or more A-level passes or Scottish highers were as follows:

Percentage
1979 17
198017
198117
198219
198318
198419

Overseas Students

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the number of overseas students in (a)universities, (b)maintained sector advanced education, and (c)non-advanced further education, for each year since 1974; what was the continental distribution of the intake; and how many completed their course.

Statistics of the continental distribution of these students could only be provided at disproportionate cost, but figures for individual countries are published by the British Council in its booklet "Statistics of Overseas Students in the United Kingdom" copies of which are in the Library. Statistics for advanced and non-advanced level students from each continent in the maintained sector in England are published in my Department's annual volume "Statistics of Education Further Education" which is also in the Library.

Information on the numbers completing their course is not available.

Financial year

Recurrent grant

Recurrent grant in 1984–85 real terms

Recurrent grant indexed in real terms

£million

(£ million)

1971–72=100

1971–726·6329·19100·0
1972–737·9032·23110·4
1973–749·7837·23127·5
1974–7513·8644·22151·5
1975–7616·3841·57142·4
1976–7723·5752·86181·1
1977–7824·1547·56162·9
1978–7929·9653·33182·7
1979–8036·7155·92191·6
1980–8147·1360·45207·1
1981–8251·2759·79204·8
1982–8354·21(55·21)*59·07(60·16)*202·4(206·1)*
1983–8455·72(56·42)*58·11(58·84)*199·1(201·6)*
1984–8558·25(59·05)*58·25(59·05)*199·6(202·3)*

*Figures in brackets are based on the inclusion of loans of £1 million, £0·7 million and £0·8 million in 1982–83, 1983–84 and 1984–85 respectively, whereby the Open Universtity could develop its professional industrial and commercial updating (PICKUP) activities.

Class Sizes

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what percentage change there has been in class sizes in the period since 1975 in all types of schools.

The average size of class as taught by all teachers in maintained primary schools in England has decreased by 8·4 per cent. between January 1977—the earliest date for which this information is available—and January 1985. Between January 1975 and January 1985, the corresponding average size of class for secondary schools decreased by 5·7 per cent.Information about class sizes in nursery, special and independent schools is not collected centrally.

Pupil-Teacher Ratios

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will publish the latest pupil to teacher ratios for England and for each local education authority including and excluding headteachers, in (a)nursery schools, (b)primary schools, (c)secondary schools, (d)special schools and (e)sixth form colleges.

Nursery Education

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the age participation rate in education for the under fives expressed as a percentage of the two, three and four-year old age group.

Open University

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will publish in the Official Report the value of the Government grant to the Open University for each year since 1971 in (a)cash terms, (b) at 1984–85 prices and (c)using 1971–72 as a base, including and excluding Government loans to the institution.

The percentage of children aged two, three and four years in January 1985 attending maintained nursery and primary schools were 4 per cent., 32 per cent. and 75 per cent. respectively.

Academic Staff (Promotions)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what information he has as to the incidence and nature of promotions of academic staff in universities in the last year for which data are available; and if he will make a statement.

The latest information available is of the numbers of full-time, wholly university financed, non-clinical academic staff at universities in Great Britain, who moved to higher grade posts in 1983, as follows:

Post at 31 December 1983
Post at 31 December 1982Lecturer or assistant lecturer Senior lecturer or readerProfessor
Senior lecturer or reader164
Lecturer or assistant lecturer5209
Other103
The number and timing of promotions and questions concerning academic career structures generally are matters for the universities.

Education Support Grants

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will make a statement about present and planned expediture on education support grants.

I refer the hon. Member to my right hon. Friend's reply to the hon. Member for Rugby and Kenilworth (Mr. Pawsey) on 19 December 1985 at columns 289–90.

Overseas Development

Overseas Students

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what countries have ceased to receive aid provided for overseas students, in each of the last five years for which data are available.

The only country for which aid programme expenditure on overseas students ended during the period 1981 to 1985 was El Salvador, in 1983. No new training awards have been made for the Lebanon since 1984 but expenditure has continued on existing awards.

Attorney-General

R V Pain, Jory And Others

asked the Attorney-General what was the cost to public funds of the recent case of R. v. Pain, Jory and others.

The total cost to public funds of an individual trial cannot be ascertained. It comprises numerous elements, some which may be part of the general running costs of the various Government Departments concerned. It is not the practice to publish individual fees payable to counsel or solicitors from public funds, which in any event cannot be ascertained until after taxation of bills of costs.

Home Department

Probation Statistics

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether the average costings of probation orders and community service orders published in the Home Office probation statistics include an appropriate proportion of probation officers' salaries, office costs and other related expenditure.

Yes. The estimation of the average costings is described in paragraph 12·4 on page 115 of "Probation Statistics, England and Wales, 1984", published on 16 January 1986. They include a proportion of all expenditure on the probation service, other than that on the Home Office sponsorship scheme, probation and bail hostels and salaries etc. of probation officers seconded to prison department establishments.

Community Radio

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to announce the successful applicants for experimental community radio licences.

My right hon. Friend expects to receive a report from the advisory panel on community radio within the next few weeks, and to announce the successful applicants thereafter.

Royal Observer Corps

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is satisfied that in the event of national emergency adequate police protection could be provided for monitoring posts of the Royal Observer Corps.

We are satisfied that the arrangements which have been made and which are regularly exercised would provide adequate police protection.

Registration And Naturalisation

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many applications for (a) registration and (b)naturalisation he expects to receive in 1986–87.

On present estimates we expect to receive 40,400 applications for registration and 21,600 applications for naturalisation in 1986–87.—

Asylum

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to conduct the experiment referred to in paragraph 88 of his response to the report of the Home Affairs Committee on refugees and asylum seekers.

We regret that the pressures on the refugee unit have not yet permitted this experiment to take place, but we hope that it may be possible to conduct it later in the year. In the meantime the necessary preparatory work is in hand.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) how many decisions on applications for asylum were made in each month since the beginning of 1984;(2)how many initial applications for asylum have been decided in each month since January 1985; and how many such cases are outstanding at the end of each month;(3)how many decisions on applications for asylum have been made since his Department's arrears unit was established.

I am arranging for this information to be obtained and shall write to the hon. Member when it is available. It will take some time before the statistics for 1985 are compiled.

Registration And Naturalisation

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what criteria he uses in deciding whether or not to grant registration as a British citizen under section 4(5) of the British Nationality Act 1981.

In considering applications under section 4(5) a number of factors are taken into account principally the quality of an applicant's relevant service and his or her personal connections with the United Kingdom.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many applications under section 4(5) of the British Nationality Act 1981 have been (a)received, (b)granted and (c)refused in each year since 1983.

Following is the information requested:

198319841985
Applications received0237221
Applications granted001
Applications refused001

Special Quota Vouchers

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what proportion of heads of households granted special quota vouchers in India in 1985 did not use those vouchers.

Information on special voucher holders accepted for settlement on arrival in the United Kingdom, analysed by the place of issue of the voucher, is not available. The latest available information is for the first three quarters of 1985, when 820 special vouchers were issued worldwide—of which 450 were issued in India—and 840 voucher holders were accepted for settlement on arrival in the United Kingdom. The vouchers are valid for six months and some of those who arrived in 1985 will have had vouchers issued in 1984 and some of those issued with vouchers in 1985 will not arrive until 1986.

Foreign Visitors

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) how many visitors who were refused entry to Britain in the latest 12 months lodged appeals after removal; and what proportion of these appeals were successful;(2)how many appeals by husbands and male fiancés from

(a)India, (b)Bangladesh and (c) Pakistan against refusals of entry clearance were allowed in the year September 1984 to September 1985;

(3)how many (a)wives and (b) children from (i)India, (ii) Pakistan and (iii) Bangladesh have had an appeal against refusal of entry clearance to join their husbands or fathers upheld during the year September 1984 to September 1985.

I regret that the statistics available about appeals and their outcome do not enable this precise information to be provided.

Remanded Prisoners

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to end the routine use of police cells to hold remand prisoners.

Police cells are used to accommodate only those prisoners for whom places cannot be found in the appropriate establishments because of industrial action, transport or logistical difficulties or because of a mismatch of prisoners and places causing overloading of one part of the prison system. We do riot accept that police cells are used as a matter of routine.

Police Statistics

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the total annual expenditure on wages and salaries of the police, and the numbers employed in the police service.

The information requested, in respect of expenditure planned for the financial year 1986–87 in England and Wales, is as follows:

Expenditure planned for1986–87Average manpower assumptions
£million
Police pay and allowances2,016·7121,661
Civilians' pay315·1*39,882
Traffic Wardens' pay34·54,994
Police cadets' pay1·8450

Notes

* The civilian figure includes part-lime staff on a 2 for 1 basis.

On 30 November 1985 there were 120,629 police officers, 39,176 civilians, 4·791 traffic wardens and 374 cadets in the police service in England and Wales.

House Of Commons

Apples (Refreshment Department)

asked the Lord Privy Seal why virtually no English apples were on sale in the Refreshment Department's outlets between October 1985 and January 1986; and if he will make a statement.

English apples are always available. The Refreshment Department also buys apples from other countries in its constant quest to satisfy the varied demands of Members.

Photocopying Paper

asked the Lord Privy Seal why no A4 papers have been available in the main photocopying room below the Chamber of the House for the first two days after the return of the House on 13 January; and if he will make a statement.

I regret that no stocks of A4 photocopying paper were available on 13 January for the copying machines below the Chamber. I understand that stocks were checked on Wednesday 8 January and found to be adequate; but between then and Friday 10 January the total reserve of some 20 boxes was removed from the store by persons unknown. A fresh supply was ordered as soon as possible after the loss was discovered, and became available on Tuesday 14 January. The Deliverer of the Vote is reviewing the security of photocopying paper stocks as a result of this incident.

Energy

Yelland Power Station

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will make a statement on the future of the decommissioned Yelland power station in north Devon.

I am advised by the Central Electricity Generating Board that work is in hand to ensure the safety of the former power station buildings, and that the possible future development of the site is under active examination.

National Coal Board

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will make a statement about the current levels of productivity being achieved in the National Coal Board.

The NCB has recently for the first time in its history achieved average deep-mined productivity in excess of 3 tonnes per man shift. This major improvement since the ending of the strike is a clear demonstration of what can be achieved with determined effort by all those in the industry.

Manley Report

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will publish in full the Manley report before legislation on the Atomic Energy Authority is debated in the House.

No—the report itself is a classified internal departmental document, and it is not normal practice to publish confidential advice to Ministers. The conclusions and recommendations of the AEA review report were, however, summarised fully in the press notice issued by the Department on 3 October 1984, a copy of which was placed in the Library of the House.

Ncb (Compensation Payments)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy (1) how much has been paid in compensation to Lothian estates/Lothian coal company in each year in relation to pits taken over by the National Coal Board;(2) what was paid as compensation to Lothian estates/ Grange estates/Newtongrange estates and any other interested body when the National Coal Board lease expired in 1982, as a result of the conditions imposed at the time of nationalisation of the coal industry not having been fulfilled.

These are matters for the National Coal Board, I am asking the chairman to write to the hon. Member.

Defence

Captain Of The Port (Portsmouth)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) if he has any plans to privatise the Captain of the Port's facility at Portsmouth;(2) what investigations have been carried out into the feasibility of privatising the Captain of the Port's facility at Portsmouth.

The scope for contracting out marine services tasks generally is under examination as the result of a recent management audit. Our principal aim must be to improve efficiency, while maintaining the operational effectiveness of the services provided. If specific proposals for contractorisation are developed, in respect of Portsmouth or elsewhere, there will be full consultation before decisions are taken.No specific studies in respect of the Captain of the Port's department at Portsmouth have yet been completed.

Hms Otter

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he is satisfied with the progress being made with the refit of HMS Otter; and if he will make a statement.

HMS Otter's refit is proceeding as planned and is on course to complete within the scheduled time.

Royal Dockyards

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will list the companies which are visiting or have visited the royal dockyards with a view to tendering for commercial management.

Representatives of the following companies are visiting or have visited one or both of the royal dockyards in pursuit of their interest in tendering for the management contracts:

  • A&P Appledore
  • Babcock International
  • Balfour Beatty
  • British Aerospace
  • Foster Wheeler
  • GEC
  • Hawker Siddeley
  • Northern Engineering Industries
  • Plessey
  • Press Offshore
  • Seaforth Welding
  • Taylor Woodrow
  • Thorn-EMI
  • Trafalgar House
  • Tyne Ship Repair
  • The Weir Group
  • asked the Secretary of State for Defence what talks have taken place with British Aerospace over the commercial management of the royal dockyards; and if he will make a statement.

    Discussions on a wide range of issues related to the introduction of commercial management into the royal dockyards have taken place between my Department and all the companies, including British Aerospace, which has expressed an interest in tendering for the management contracts.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will list those companies originally named as interested in the franchise for the royal dockyards and which have indicated they no longer wish to pursue their interest.

    In his statement on 23 July at columns 867–868 my right hon. Friend the Member for Henley (Mr. Heseltine) the former Secretary of State for Defence gave the names of some companies which had expressed interest in the Government's proposals to introduce commercial management into the royal dockyards. I gave the names of further such companies on 2 December during the Second Reading debate on the Dockyard Services Bill at column 34. Of these companies, Costain and STC have indicated that they no longer have an interest in bidding for the contract to manage the dockyards.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he has had any discussions with management at Rosyth dockyard about the possibility of a bid for the franchise management of the dockyard; and if he will make a statement.

    I have had no substantive or formal discussion with the Rosyth dockyard management on this issue. During my visit to Rosyth on 9 December 1985 I drew the management's attention to developments at Devonport.

    Gec-Plessey (Merger)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what consideration he has given to the implications for defence procurement of the proposed merger of GEC and Plessey.

    [pursuant to his reply, 15 January 1986, c. 610]: An analysis of the implications for defence procurement of the proposed merger has been made available to the Director General of Fair Trading, who is responsible for providing advice to my right hon. and learned Friend, the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry on this matter.

    Wales

    Co-Operatives (Job Creation)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what information he has as to the number of jobs generated by co-operatives in Wales over the last six years and as to the average cost to public funds of each job.

    My Department does not collect information on a basis that would enable me to answer the question in the form asked. I understand that the Wales Co-operative Centre has data on current employment provided by co-operatives.

    Heating And Insulation (Government Funding)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what representations he has received calling for additional Government funds to improve heating and insulation in council homes in Wales.

    Jobcentres

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many Jobcentres in Wales are open less than five days per week in areas of (a) over 20 per cent. unemployment, (b) between 15 per cent. and 20 per cent. unemployment and (c) up to 15 per cent. unemployment; and if he will specify, in each case, the number of days per week each Jobcentre is open.

    Civil Service Non-Industrial Union Representatives
    Estimates of Numbers and Cost of Paid Time Off for Industrial Relations Duties and Trade Union Activities (as at 1 June 1985)
    Table 1—Percentage of Time Off
    DepartmentUnder56·1011·2021–3031·4041·5051·6061·7071·8081·9091·99Full Time
    Ministry of Agriculture Fisheries and Food569543213433127
    Customs and Excise3571861001616911156739
    Ministry of Defence90413110237614122121810
    Department of Employment Group1,60443019940231181111
    Department of Environment/Transport345935794355310
    Foreign and Commonwealth Office (inc Overseas Development Administration)38321151418
    Department of Health and Social Security1,480463225835336281920432966
    Home Office (inc. Prison Department)812200122431215524311
    Department of Trade and Industry36762481343622216
    Inland Revenue1,808333174413122546216
    Lord Chancellor's Department49282710552219
    Department for National Savings15475741211113
    Property Services Agency (inc. Crown Suppliers)3516127431113

    Sixteen of the 98 Jobcentres in Wales are open less than 5 days per week. Following is the detailed information.

    Job centreDays of opening
    TTWA over 20 per cent. unemployment
    PontlottynTuesday and Thursday
    TreharrisMonday to Wednesday
    FishguardMonday, Tuesday and Thursday
    PrestatynMonday to Wednesday
    TTWA 15–20 per cent. unemployment
    FerndaleMonday, Tuesday and Friday
    CaldicotTuesday
    BlaenavonWednesday
    KidwellyWednesday
    Cymmer*Tuesday and Thursday
    ResolvenWednesday
    Glyn NeathTuesday
    GarnantMonday, Tuesday and Thursday
    TumbleMonday, Tuesday and Thursday
    DolgellauWednesday
    AbergeleTuesday and Friday
    TTWA under 15 per cent.
    employment RuthinWednesday
    * Temporarily closed due to premises difficulties.

    National Finance

    Trade Union Representatives (Government Departments)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will give the latest estimates of the numbers of elected representatives in each of the main Government Departments and of the cost of providing paid time off.

    The estimates as at 1·6.85 are shown in the following tables. Compared with the position as at 1·6.84, the total amount of paid time off for union business shows a reduction by 35 man years (2·8 per cent.) with a consequential saving (in real terms) of £0·36 million reflecting for the third consecutive year the tighter control and accountability measures introduced by the revised national facilities agreement in 1982.

    Department

    Under 5

    6–10

    11–20

    21–30

    31–40

    41–50

    51–60

    61–70

    71–80

    81–90

    91–99

    Full Time

    Scottish Office (inc. General Register Office (Scotland), Scottish Record Office and Scottish Prison Service)1835017728
    Other Government Departments499127792411104421325
    Total9,5202,2281,2353481811219365566446232

    Table 2 Numbers and Cost

    Department

    Total Number involved

    Total Number expressed as whole time equivalent

    Cost in Salaries wages and direct benefit (£ million)

    Cost as percentage of wage bill*

    Total number of non-industrial staff at 1 July 1985

    Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food688330·400·2910,582
    Customs and Excise7621171·310·4325,204
    Ministry of Defence1,2391181·270·1194,431
    Department of Employment Group2,3281031·170·2053,456
    Department of Environment Transport (excluding Property Services Agency)534480·540·2219,710
    Foreign and Commonwealth Office (inc. Overseas Development, Administration)82180·160·079,440
    Department of Health and Social Security2,5453162·880·3291,825
    Home Office (including Prison Department)1,2201161·110·2133,535
    Department of Trade and Industry516420·490·2912,230
    Inland Revenue2,4331251·440·1769,858
    Lord Chancellor's Department138280·320·3110,128
    Department for National Savings196220·240·377,694
    Property Services Agency (inc. Crown Suppliers)452250·330·1815,126
    Scottish Office (including General Register Office (Scotland),Scottish Record Office and Scottish Prison Service)267210·260·209,576
    Other Government Departments789820·970·2433,193
    Total14,1891,21412·890·21495,988

    * For 1984 the figures in this column were shown to one decimal point only, and the total figure of 0·2 was 0·225 rounded down.

    Scotland

    Cormorants

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what has been the number of applications for licences to kill cormorants received in 1984 and 1985; and what was the number granted, the number of cormorants allowed to be killed, the number killed, and, in each case, the location and the reason for the killing.

    The details are as follows:

    19841985
    i.Applications received2537
    ii. Licences granted2536

    1984

    1985

    iii No limits were attached to licences issued in 1984; one licence issued in 1985 to the Ythan district salmon fishery board set an upper limit of 100 birds.
    iv Numbers killed, including provisional figures for 1985, and locations were as shown in the table below.
    v. Licences were issued for the prevention of serious damage to fisheries

    Loch or River System

    Number of Licences

    Numbers killed under licence

    1984

    1985

    1984

    1985

    Kyle of Sutherlandnil1nil13
    Navernil1nil15
    Loch Etivenil1nilnil
    Loch Fittynil1nil13
    Loch Maree1157
    Loch Leven1nil107nil
    Lochailort1417
    Doon112214
    Laggan and Duich111821
    Spean1135
    Brora111429
    South Esk334nil
    Spey and Findhorn1211
    Nairn11224
    Annan13nilnil
    Awe11nil2
    Conon126nil
    Tay67272212
    Tweed228519
    Ythan1131488
    Shin1nil12nil
    Helmsdalenil1nilnil
    Total2536886450

    Forth Road Bridge

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make it his policy to exclude the Forth road bridge approach roads from the responsibility of the Forth road bridge joint board.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what additional income he estimates will be received as a result of his decision to increase tolls on the Forth road bridge.

    It is estimated that revenue from tolls will be increased by between £1·2 million and £1·5 million per annum.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland from what date he plans to levy increased tolls on users of the Forth road bridge.

    My right hon. and learned Friend will bring the necessary order into effect on a date to be determined after consultation with the Joint Board.

    Pesticides

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if, under part III of the Food and Environment Protection Act 1985, he intends to institute a system of licensing for agricultural contractors for the application of pesticides in respect of forestry.

    I refer the hon. Member to the reply to the question he put to my right hon. Friend the Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, which he answered today. The proposals in his reply will take aboard the use of pesticides in forestry.

    Trade And Industry

    North-West

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will provide the names of all those companies in the north-west, or which moved to the northwest, having received Government or European Economic Community grants to maintain or create employment since 1979; and what was the amount of any such grants the date of payment of such grants, the number of jobs maintained or created by the grant, the specific type of grant paid, the address of the specific plant to which the grant related and, where a move of location had been the purpose of the grant, the previous address of the plant.

    I regret that the information the hon. Gentleman seeks is not available in the form requested. Much of it cannot be revealed for commecial reasons and what is available can only be provided at disproportionate costs. However I shall be writing shortly to the hon. Gentleman.

    Westland Plc

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry, further to his statement of the evening of Monday 13 January, what was the time at which he became aware of the contents of the letter sent to the Government by Sir Austin Pearce.

    I became aware of the contents of the letter dated 13 January from Sir Austin Pearce to the Prime Minister on 14 January.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry, pursuant to his reply to the right hon. Member for Morley and Leeds, South on 13 January, Official Report, column 783, whether he or anyone in his Department saw the Solicitor-General's letter in draft before it was sent, or material upon which the letter was based; and whether he was consulted about the contents of the letter, or its sending, before it was sent.

    I refer the right hon. Gentleman to what I said in my speech to the House on 15 January at column 1167–8.

    Warship Builders (Privatisation)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will make a statement on the latest progress in privatising the warship building interests of British Shipbuilders.

    My right hon. and learned Friend the Secretary of State gave his consent today to British Shipbuilders for the sale of Swan Hunter Shipbuilders Ltd. to a management buy-out consortium. British Shipbuilders will receive £5 million partly offset by provision for unavoidable future losses and capital expenditure planned before completion of the sale. In addition British Shipbuilders has accepted a limited contingency liability should redundancies arise.

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    Forestry Commission Land (Dorset)

    the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many sales of Forestry Commission land have taken place and Dorset (a) in 1984 and (b) in 1985; and what, in each year, has been the total area sold.

    Calendar year

    Number of sales

    Total area sold hectares

    19847287
    19854144

    Pesticides

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if, under part III of the Food and Environment Protection Act 1985, he intends to institute a system of licensing for agricultural contractors for the application of pesticides.

    I am concerned to ensure that all who apply pesticides on a commercial scale should be appropriately trained in their effective use and in the necessary safeguards for health and the environment.My Department has therefore proposed, in the consultative document "Pesticides: Implementing Part III of the Food and Environment Protection Act 1985", that there should be a general obligation on all who use pesticides in the course of their business to ensure that they and their employees have received adequate instruction and guidance; and a specific obligation

    "on those whose business is the application of pesticides as a commercial service, that they and their employees involved in the use of pesticides attend an approved training course and obtain certification that they have reached the appropriate standard".

    My officials are consulting a range of public agencies and industry representatives on the implementation of this proposal.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food which agency will monitor and provide inspectors for the implementation and enforcement of part III of the Food and Environment Protection Act 1985 in England and Wales; and if he will indicate by region and by county how many extra inspectors will be provided.

    I refer the hon. Member to chapter 9 of the consultative document "Pesticides: Implementing Part III of the Food and Environment Protection Act 1985", where we have proposed that a number of different agencies should be responsible for enforcement. The deployment of their resources is a matter for the agencies involved, and I am therefore unable to give the detail requested.

    Employment

    Disabled People

    asked the Paymaster General why disabled persons are included in the unemployment count.

    Disabled people are included in the count of people claiming unemployment benefits because they declare that they are capable and available for work. Some severely disabled people, who could not obtain employment except under sheltered conditions, are included. The severely disabled used to be excluded from the former count at jobcentres and careers offices until October 1982 when they numbered about 23,000; but they are not separately identified at unemployment benefit offices which have been the source of the unemployment count since then.

    Labour Statistics

    asked the Paymaster General what was the number of low-paid male manual workers for each year since 1975 and the proportion of the total work force that they represented.

    The number and proportion of adult male manual employees with relatively low weekly earnings can be assessed from the tables on the distribution of weekly earnings regularly published in the annual reports on the "New Earnings Survey", table 14 for 1975 to 1981 and table 29 for 1982 to 1985, copies of which are available in the Library.It is a matter of judgment what levels of relatively low pay are regarded as significant.

    asked the Paymaster General how many 16-year-olds entered employment, excluding special training measures, in each of the last 15 years; and what these numbers represent as a percentage of their respective age groups.

    Information in the precise form requested is not available. The latest available relevant estimates for 1984 and 1985 are shown in the following table:

    Young people aged 16 years* in Great Britain
    January 1984January 1985
    NumbersPer cent.NumbersPer cent.
    Total population of which:895,000100870,000100
    (a) in full-time education or YTS, or claimant unemployed745,00083740,00085
    (b) other: mainly employed outside YTS†155,00017130,00015
    * Ages as at preceding 31 August.
    †Mainly those in employment but excluding those employed under the youth training scheme and including some who were seeking work but not claiming benefit and others who were neither employed nor seeking work—for example, because of domestic responsibilities. This group is obtained by subtracting from the total population of the age group those estimated to be in full-time education or in the youth training scheme and the claimant unemployed.
    Similar estimates for 1974–83 are shown in table 5 of Statistical Bulletin 5/85, published by the Department of Education and Science, which is available in the Library. Corresponding estimates prior to 1974 are not readily available.

    Wages Councils

    asked the Paymaster General if he will publish in the Official Report an estimate of the number and proportion of workers who would be covered by wages councils if wages council orders ceased to apply to workers under 21 years of age; and if he will provide the same data for each wages council industry.

    About 2·25 million workers will continue to be covered by wages councils following the removal from regulation of workers under 21 years of age. This figure represents about four fifths of the total number covered at present. It is not possible to provide the information requested for individual wages council industries.

    Youth Training

    asked the Paymaster General if he will list in the Official Report those firms, of which his Department is aware, that pay an additional wage to youth training scheme trainees.

    Payments made to youth training scheme trainees in excess of the standard allowances to which they are entitled are a matter for the training providers concerned. Neither my Department nor the Manpower Services Commission maintain a record of the firms who make such payments.

    Technical And Vocational Education

    asked the Paymaster General, how many children in each local authority are taking part in the technical and vocational education initiative at the latest date for which data are available, and for the previous year.

    14 local education authorities started projects in 1983, and have therefore had 3 student intakes; 47 further authorities started 48 projects in 1984, with Strathclyde education authority running separate projects in 2 of its divisions; 12 authorities started projects in 1985.The following figures give the numbers of children taking part in the initiative as at September 1985, with revised totals for September 1984.

    AuthorityPosition at September 1984Position at September 1985
    Barnsley*7081,144
    Bedfordshire*9771,213
    Berkshire239489
    Birmingham500794
    Bolton179419
    Borders236534
    Bradford*510760
    Bromley†228
    Buckinghamshire259494
    Bury197383
    Cambridgeshire225460
    Cheshire200390
    Cleveland214422
    Clwyd*509913
    Cornwall286565
    Coventry259518
    Croydon235477
    Cumbria226448
    Derbyshire236492
    Devon*554805
    Doncaster236484
    Dudley250498
    Dumfries and Galloway199429
    Durham259510
    Dyfed†250
    Ealing†195
    East Sussex249502
    Enfield*412674
    Essex235498
    Fife232470
    Glasgow†238451
    Gloucestershire271536
    Gwent250500
    Gwnyedd230482
    Hampshire323586
    Havering247494
    Hereford and Worcester*513764
    Hertfordshire*606876
    Isle of Wight265528
    Kent†225
    Kingston†243
    Leicestershire*1,0071,524

    Authority

    Position at September 1984

    Position at September 1985

    Lincolnshire246484
    Lothiant†243
    Mid Glamorgan247497
    Newcastle239495
    Norfolk207438
    Northamptonshire245496
    North Tyneside253507
    Northumberland277550
    North Yorkshire†274
    Powys267492
    Renfrew‡220442
    Richmond256504
    Sandwell*1,1611,491
    Shropshire245502
    Solihull255502
    Somerset258504
    South Glamorgan†250
    South tyneside251520
    Staffordshire*632946
    Stockport251502
    Suffolk231452
    Sunderland240509
    Surrey262515
    Tameside256545
    Walsall†250
    Warwickshire216433
    West Glamorgan247503
    West Sussex†206
    Wiltshire†256
    Wigan*450672
    Wirral*509766
    Wolverhampton†243
    Total20,69239,656

    * 1983 Project

    †1985 Project
    ‡Divisions of Strathclyde EA.

    Norwood

    asked the Paymaster General how many people are currently unemployed in each ward of the Norwood constituency.

    The following information is in the Library. Figures are given showing the numbers of unemployed claimants in the wards of the Norwood parliamentary constituency as at 12 December 1985.

    Number
    Angell1,976
    Gipsy Hill1,027
    Herne Hill1,369
    Knight's Hill1,024
    St. Martin's1,035
    Thurlow Park442
    Tulse Hill1,918

    Environment

    Thamesmead Community Trust

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many staff he expects to be transferred from the Greater London council to the new Thamesmead community trust indicating the differing grades involved.

    This information is not yet available. Mr. Thornton, chairman designate of the trust. is still involved in negotiations with the staff and trade union representatives about future staffing levels at

    Thamesmead. When these are finalised and endorsed by the board, the trust will make the requisite offers of employment.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what initial office accommodation is to be made available for the new Thamesmead community trust.

    The trust will be able to purchase from the London Residuary Body existing GLC owned office accommodation at Thamesmead. If additional space is needed, it will be for the trust to make provision for it.

    Audit Commission

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he last met the chairman of the Audit Commission; and what subjects were discussed.

    The Secretary of State for the Environment last met the chairman of the Audit Commission on 17 October 1985 to discuss future membership of the commission.

    Washington Development Corporation

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish in the Official Report the names of those persons who have been appointed to the Washington Development Corporation; when he intends to add further names; and when he intends to complete the list.

    The terms of office of all members of the board of the Washington development corporation expired on 31 December 1985. So far the following have been reappointed:

    Professor G. McClelland (Chairman)
    Mr. F. Osborn (Deputy Chairman)
    Mr. D. Kelly
    Mr. S. Wareing (until 31 March 1986).Steps are in hand to appoint two councillors nominated by Sunderland borough council. My right hon. Friend is currently considering what further appointments to make to the board.

    Publicly Owned Land

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what further efforts he is planning to make to bring unused and underused publicly owned land back into full use.

    On 19 November, I announced that directions had been given, under section 98 of the Local Government, Planning and Land Act 1980, to the owners of 21 sites on the registers of unused and underused public land, requiring them to dispose of their interest in the land. I said then that the Government were determined to maintain the momentum we had built up in bringing surplus land back into use and that further sites which might be suitable for similar directions were being considered.

    External finance limits

    £ million, cash
    Target rate of return

    per cent
    1984–851985–861986–871984–851985–861986–87
    Anglian60·046·040·51·361·621·68
    Northumbrian26·023·020·01·251·541·73
    North West87·0*84·554·00·951·481·50

    My right hon. Friend has today given notice under section 99 of the 1980 Act to the owners of another 32 sites on the registers of his intention to direct them to dispose of their interest in the land, unless they are able to satisfy him that there are good reasons why he should not do so. The notices give the owners 42 days in which to make representations to the Secretary of State. A list of the sites, amounting to some 50 hectares (125 acres), has been placed in the Library of the House.

    This is the third batch of section 99 notices. As in the past, we hope that issuing the notice will in itself bring about the release of much of the land. Where it does not, we shall not hesitate, if appropriate, to give a direction under section 98 of the Act.

    Public bodies owning unused or underused land should take note. They have had ample opportunity to decide how they wish to use such land or to dispose of it on their own terms. If they have no use for the land, the Government are determined that it should no longer lie idle.

    North-East Hampshire Structure Plan

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he will aprove the first alteration to the north-east Hampshire structure plan; and if he will make a statement.

    I have approved this alteration today. I have made a number of technical modifications and a strategic modification to transport policy. I have decided to approve the housing provision proposed by the county council, ie 18,100 dwellings up to 1991. I have had regard both to the demand for housing and to the concern of local people that the quality of life in the area would be harmed by any additional housing provision, and I am satisfied that no increase is justified in this alteration.

    Water Authorities

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) if he will list for each water authority the external financing limit set for 1984–85, 1985–86, 1986–87 and 1987–88;(2) if he will list for each water authority the target rate of return set for 1984–85, 1985–86, 1986–87 and 1987–88.

    [pursuant to his reply, 15 January 1986, c. 572]: Water authorities will be set external finance limits and target rates of return in respect of 1987–88 later this year as part of the normal public expenditure round. The equivalent figures requested for English water authorities for 1984–85, 1985–86 and 1986–87 are set out below.For 1986–87, grants for land drainage and flood protection, totalling some £14 million have yet to be notified to individual authorities.The Welsh water authority is the responsibility of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Wales.

    External finance limits
    £million, cash

    Target rate of return
    per cent

    1984–85

    1985–86

    1986–87

    1984–85

    1985–86

    1986–87

    Severn-Trent40·0

    *55·2

    2·51·251·471·60
    Southern23·011·000·911·431·55
    South West11·0

    *4·9

    4·01·251·431·73
    Thames-34·0-60·0-85·00·501·411·61
    Wessex16·021·025·00·611·401·50
    Yorkshire34·031·032·01·001·371·60

    *Revised from the figures notified to Authorities in January 1985.

    Merseyside Residuary Body

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is satisfied with the progress being made by the Merseyside residuary body; and if he will make a statment.

    [pursuant to his reply, 16 January 1986, c. 679]: I am satisfied that the Merseyside residuary body has covered much of the groundwork for tasks that need to be completed by 1 April and will continue to make progress on that basis.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment why he dismissed Mr. Leslie Pocock as chairman of the Merseyside residuary body.

    [pursuant to his reply, 16 January 1986, c. 679]: I have nothing to add to the announcement I made on 24 December in my Department's news release number 642, a copy of which has been placed in the Library.

    MotorwayAll-purpose trunk road
    1984–85
    Estimated expenditure£75 million£42 million
    Mileage renewed80 e.r.m.*160 s.c.e.m.†
    1985–86
    Estimated expenditure£70 million£54 million
    Mileage to be renewed 70 e. r. m. *160 s.c.e.m. *†‡
    1986–87
    Planned expenditure£83 million £59 million
    Mileage to be renewed80 e.r.m.*185 s.c.e.m.†
    * Equivalent route miles; ie the equivalent mileage of dual 3-lane motorway renewed.
    † Single carriageway equivalent miles: ie the equivalent mileage of single carriageway, 2 lane trunk road renewed.
    ‡The mileage actually achieved will depend greatly upon weather conditions during the remainder of the winter. The final result is likely to be between 135 and 160 scen.

    Road Reconstruction Costs

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport what is the cost per mile at 1985–86 prices of reconstructing (i) dual three-lane motorway, (ii) dual two-lane all purpose trunk road and (iii) single carriageway all purpose trunk road.

    The average costs per mile in 1985–86 at 1985–86 prices of reconstruction—that is, the total or partial replacement of a road pavement—are as follows:

    million
    Dual 3-lane motorway2·1
    Dual 2-lane all-purpose trunk road1·4
    Single carriageway all-purpose trunk road0·7

    Transport

    Roads Expenditure

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will state (i) actual expenditure in 1984–85, (ii) estimated expenditure in 1985–86 and (iii) planned expenditure in 1986–87 on the reconstruction of (a) motorways and (b) all purpose trunk roads showing, in each case the number of miles involved.

    The renewal of roads, including major renewal schemes, generally involves a combination of reconstruction, overlaying and resurfacing work.Information about the cost of the reconstruction element alone is not readily available and could only be obtained at disproportionate expense. The following information relates to expenditure on all types of carriageway renewal, including reconstruction:The renewal of roads generally involves a combination of reconstruction, overlaying and resurfacing work. Average renewal costs per mile in 1985–86 are as follows:

    £ million
    Dual 3-lane motorway1·0
    Dual 2-lane all-purpose trunk road0·6
    Single carriageway all-purpose trunk road0·3

    Great Northern Electric Rail Services

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will take steps to introduce private capital into the Great Northern electric rail services.

    We have told BR that we shall welcome proposals from them for more private sector finance and participation in the development of stations and railway services.

    British Airways (Privatisation)

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport if, in connection with the privatisation of British Airways, he will introduce legislation defining unacceptable predatory behaviour for application subsequent to the airline entering the private sector.

    No. The Civil Aviation Authority has adequate powers to maintain and promote competition including taking action against airlines which act in an anti-competitive or predatory fashion. In addition, the Director General of Fair Trading can investigate and seek to remedy anti-competitive behaviour in domestic and whole plane charter services and refer monopoly questions concerning these services to the Monopolies and Mergers Commission. My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry can also refer to the Commission monopoly questions concerning any aspect of civil aviation, including international scheduled services.

    Airports (Ground Handling Charges)

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he has any plans to legislate for the deregulation of airport ground handling charges; and if he will make a statement.

    The arrangements for ground handling differ widely between airports. Charges for the services provided are a matter for the airport operator, or for the authorised agent and airlines concerned. However, the Airports Bill, published on 16 January, contains proposals whereby the Civil Aviation Authority will have power in this area to remedy charges or trading practices by airport operators that are discriminatory or that represent an abuse of an operator's monopoly.

    Aircraft Engine Hush Kits

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport (1) what representations he has received from the National Joint Council for Civil Air Transport about the implications for the future competitiveness of British-owned air cargo companies, in the light of the cessation of trading on 3 January of Tradewinds Airways, of the requirement for United Kingdom air cargo operators to fit engine hush kits and of the related exemptions granted to non-United Kingdom carriers; and if he will make a statement;(2) what assessment he has made of the implications for the international competitiveness of the United Kingdom air cargo industry of his Department's requirement that certain aircraft operated by British-owned carriers must be fitted with engine hush kits from 1 January and of the decision to grant one and two-year exemptions from this requirement to European and non-European airlines, respectively; and if he will make a statement.

    The decision to exclude from the United Kingdom register from 1 January 1986 subsonic jet aeroplanes not complying with minimum noise standards was taken following an announcement by the previous Administration in the White Paper on airports policy of 1978 (Cmnd. 7084). Over the last seven years most of our airlines have brought their fleets into full compliance with those standards while maintaining or enhancing their competitiveness. As Tradewinds Airways' recent announcement made clear, its decision to cease trading was by no means due solely to the need to fit hush kits to its aeroplanes. The question of granting exemptions to foreign carriers does not arise; international agreements prevent the banning of such aeroplanes before 1 January 1988.My right hon. Friend is considering representations on these matters from the trade union side of the National Joint Council for Civil Air Transport.

    Prime Minister

    Legislation (Ministerial Conduct)

    asked the Prime Minister what instructions she has given and what action she has taken concerning the application and interpretation of the rules governing ministerial conduct, insofar as they relate to Ministers sponsoring Bills covering matters in which they retain a pecuniary interest; and if she will make a statement.

    Ministers who are Members of this House are bound, just as any other hon. Member is bound, by the rules of the House governing registration and declaration of any personal interest they may have in business which comes before the House; and these rules of course apply also to Ministers in charge of a Bill.

    New Zealand (Nuclear Shipping)

    asked the Prime Minister whether she has had any discussions with President Reagan or other members of the United States Administration, concerning the implications for the joint United States/United Kingdom naval exercises to be held in the south Pacific later this year, of New Zealand's decision to ban nuclear shipping from New Zealand territorial waters.

    I have had no such discussions relating to specific exercises but I have talked with President Reagan about the general point.

    Written Communications

    asked the Prime Minister what are the circumstances in which Ministers reveal the existence of written communications which the sender has asked not to be revealed.

    It is not my practice to reveal such communications without permission.

    Westland Plc

    asked the Prime Minister what was the time on 13 January when she became aware of the contents of the letter received from Sir Austin Pearce.

    I refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply I gave to the hon. Member for Liverpool, West Derby (Mr. Wareing) on 14 January at column 924.

    Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

    Anglo-Irish Agreement

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what is the effect of the Anglo-Irish agreement upon the role and machinery of the Anglo-Irish Intergovernmental Council.

    As article 2 of the Anglo-Irish agreement of 1985 makes clear, the Intergovernmental Conference established under the agreement is within the framework of the Anglo-Irish Intergovernmental Council. The other machinery of the Anglo-Irish Intergovernmental Council retains its existing functions.

    Iraq

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if, during the recent visit to the United Kingdom of the Iraqi Foreign Minister, he had any discussions about the possibility of lifting the embargo on the sale of military equipment to Iraq; and if he will make a statement.

    Changes to the current guidelines on the sale of defence equipment to Iraq were not discussed during the recent visit to this country of the Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister. The guidelines remain as outlined in the answer given by my right hon. and learned Friend to the right hon. Member for Tweeddale, Etterick and Lauderdale (Mr. Steel) on 29 October 1985 at column 454.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what representations were made by Her Majesty's Government to the Iraqi Foreign Minister on recent development in Iraqi Kurdistan.

    There was no specific discussion of recent developments in Iraqi Kurdistan.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs (1) when he next intends to meet the Iraqi Foreign Secretary to discuss political prisoners there;(2) when he next intends to have talks with the Iraqi Foreign Minister.

    My right hon. and learned Friend has at present no plans for further meetings with the Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister of Iraq.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on current relations between the United Kingdom and Iraq.

    The United Kingdom has normal diplomatic relations with Iraq. High level ministerial visits are exchanged, and these enable us to improve existing relations whilst providing an opportunity to speak frankly on matters where our views do not coincide. Iraq is also an important and growing market for British exporters.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs (1) what matters were discussed when he last met the Iraqi Foreign Minister; and if he will make a statement;(2) if he will make a statement on his recent meeting with the Iraqi Foreign Minister.

    When my right hon. and learned Friend met the Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister of Iraq on 4 December they discussed a wide range of bilateral and regional issues, including Iran-Iraq, Arab-Israel and the situation in the Lebanon.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what steps were taken at the recent meetings with the Iraqi Foreign Secretary to seek to ensure an end to human rights violations in Iraq.

    I refer the hon. Member to the reply given by my right hon. and learned Friend to the hon. Member for Thurrock (Dr. McDonald) on 18 December 1985 at column 294.

    European Court Of Human Rights (Right Of Petition)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether Her Majesty's Government intend to renew the existing rights of individual petition from the Channel Islands or other British dependencies which are parties to the European Court of Human Rights.

    We are presently seeking the views on this matter of the Channel Islands and the dependent territories on whose behalf we previously accepted the right of individual petition to the European Commission of Human Rights.

    Social Services

    Departmental Staff

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what has been the average rate of staff turnover in his Department's inner city offices during each of the past five years.

    Turnover is defined as those staff who leave the Department, change offices within the Department or change grade within an office. The number of staff who leave the Department (wastage) is much lower. Both sets of figures for the last two years are set out in the following table:

    TurnoverWastage
    per cent.per cent.
    December 1983—November 198424·410·6
    December 1984—November 198521·310·4
    This information relates to the grades of clerical assistant, local officer II and local officer I employed in inner city offices.Obtaining information for earlier periods would be disproportionately expensive.

    Nhs (Pay)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many National Health Service employees' take-home pay is less than the level regarded by the Government as the minimum required for subsistence.

    Information on take-home pay is not generally available. Deductions from gross earnings, such as income tax and national insurance contributions depend wholly on individual circumstances.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the total annual expenditure on wages and salaries of (a) nursing and midwifery staff, (b) ancillary staff, (c) medical staff and (d) ambulance staff; and what are the total numbers employed in each group.

    The information requested is as follows:

    Staff numbersExpenditure(£

    million)
    (a)Nursing and midwifery staff393,7003,034
    (b)Ancillary staff152,200937
    (c)Medical staff (medical)36,800873
    (dental)2,40047
    Total39,200920
    (d)Ambulance staff18,100174
    Expenditure is for 1984/85 and includes employers' national insurance and superannuation contributions. Staff numbers are whole time equivalents of permanent paid staff employed in the hospital and community health service at 30 September 1984. Details for both expenditure and staff numbers exclude agency staff and locums.

    Family Practitioner Committees (Computer Facilities)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list those family practitioner committees which do not possess a computer capable of operating a cervical screening call and recall scheme.

    The 45 family practitioner committees listed do not possess computer systems capable of operating a cervical screening call and recall scheme.

    • Berkshire
    • Bolton
    • Bradford
    • Bromley
    • Bury
    • Cambridgeshire
    • Camden and Islington
    • Cheshire
    • City and East London
    • Cornwall and Isles of Scilly
    • Cumbria
    • Doncaster
    • Dudley
    • East Sussex
    • Essex
    • Gateshead
    • Greenwich and Bexley
    • Hertfordshire
    • Humberside
    • Kensington, Chelsea and Westminster
    • Kingston and Richmond
    • Lambeth, Southwark and Lewisham'
    • Lancashire
    • Leeds
    • Leicestershire
    • Lincolnshire
    • Merton, Sutton and Wandsworth
    • Newcastle
    • Norfolk
    • North Yorkshire
    • Oldham
    • Oxfordshire
    • Redbridge and Waltham Forest
    • Sheffield
    • Shropshire
    • Somerset
    • South Tyneside
    • Suffolk
    • Sunderland
    • Surrey
    • Tameside
    • Trafford
    • Wakefield
    • West Sussex
    • Wolverhampton

    Departmental Local Offices

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will state for the inner and outer areas of Greater London, respectively, the approximate turnover of staff in grades of clerical assistant and clerical officer, respectively, in social security offices open to the public, together with maximum and minimum rates of turnover naming the offices concerned;(2) if he will tabulate for each of his offices in Greater London for the years 1980 and 1985 (a) the numbers of staff, (b) persons in receipt of supplementary benefit and (c) the approximate percentage of (b) arising from retirement pensioners and others, respectively.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will state in respect of social security offices in the London boroughs of Hackney, Tower Hamlets, and Newham; the number of outstanding single claims, the number of staff vacancies and the number of resignations from clerical grades in the year 1985 set out on a borough office basis.

    The number of (a) resignations from clerical grades in the year 1985 and (b) outstanding single payment claims at 31 December 1985 is as follows:

    London Borough of Hackney
    (a)(b)
    Finsbury Park ILO23215
    Hackney ILO7700
    Hoxton ILO13400
    Shoreditch AO11428
    Stoke Newington ILO15225
    London Borough of Tower Hamlets
    Poplar ILO15251
    Stepney AO970
    Hackney ILOSee above
    Shoreditch ILOSee above
    London Borough of Newham
    Canning Town ILO9350
    Plaistow ILO16579
    Woodgrange Park ILO1090
    At 1 January 1986 there were no vacancies at any of the offices listed above.

    Disablement Benefit

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether applications for disablement benefit are subject to disproportionate delay when processing the backlog of applications for other types of social security benefit.

    No. Claims for disablement benefit are given the same priority as claims for any other benefit. However, if the hon. Member has a particular problem in mind I should be very willing to investigate it.

    Limited List Prescribing

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many representations he has now received in respect of the change to a limited list for prescribing specific drugs.

    Since the end of June 1985 we have replied to approximately 2,500 representations about specific drugs; information relating to correspondence received before that date is not readily available.

    Supplementary Benefit

    asked the Secretary of State for Social services how many single payments to supplementary benefit claimants last year were for a sum, respectively, of less than £10, £10 to £20, £20 to £40, £40 to £60, £60 to £80, £80 to £100, £100 to £150, £150 to £300, £300 to £500, £500 to £800, £800 to £1,000 or greater than £1,000.

    The information requested is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

    Opticians And Ophthalmologists

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many opticians and ophthalmologists have been trained in each of the last five years.

    I regret that information is not available in the form requested. The table shows the numbers of new opticians who registered with the General Optical Council and the numbers of doctors in training in ophthalmology in National Health Service hospitals.

    19811982198319841985
    Ophthalmic Opticians244265271277*
    Dispensing Opticians276224192218*
    Doctors in Training536545535536*
    * Not available

    Notes:

    The figures for opticians are United Kingdom figures for years ended 31 December.

    The figures for doctors are England and Wales figures at 30 September.

    Benefit Claims (Slough)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) how many people claimed supplementary benefit in Slough in (a) 1979 and (b) 1985; and what percentage change that represents;(2) what was the percentage change in claims made to the Department of Health and Social Security offices in Slough between 1979 and 1985; and what was the percentage change in staff for the same period.

    The table shows the number of claims to benefit received by the Department's office at Slough in 1980 — the earliest available figures— and 1985; the percentage changes and the staffing changes. There has been a large number of procedural changes in both contributory and supplementary benefits over this period and therefore the figures for claims and staffing levels are not directly comparable.

    1980

    1985

    Percertage change

    Sickness benefit35,7873,549-90
    Maternity benefit3,1832,241-30
    Injury benefit1,314
    Widows benefit332482+45
    Death grant2,3312,132-9
    Disablement benefit134

    *

    Retirement pension3,9393,823-3
    Supplementary benefit12,53316,994+36
    Staff: Contributory benefit10877-29
    Supplementary-29
    benefit113+35
    Total staff192190-1

    * Disablement benefit claims are now handled at a separate specialist benefit office.

    "Reform Of Social Security"

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) why, in table 16B of the technical annexe to the "Reform of Social Security", the number of lone parent losers broken down by decrease does not equal the figures given for the aggregate total decreased; and if he will make a statement;(2) if he will publish a revised version of table 16A and 16B of the technical annex to the "Reform of Social Security" giving precise figures, rather than figures rounded to the nearest thousand; and if he will make a statement.

    The estimates in the technical annex are based on data in sample surveys and are, by their nature, approximations. Unrounded figures would give an air of spurious precision without adding to the usefulness of the information. As the technical annex makes clear in paragraph 2·14, numbers of claimants were rounded to 10,000 and, due to rounding, totals do not sum exactly in every case.

    Mccoll Report

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if, pursuant to the reply of 19 December 1985, Official Report, column 310,he is yet in a position to state when the McColl report on artificial limb and appliance centres will be published.

    I refer the hon. Member to my reply to the right hon. Member for Manchester, Wythenshawe (Mr. Morris) on 15 January at columns 599–600.

    Board And Lodging Allowance

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many claims for a board and lodging allowance have been made by persons aged under 26 years since 25 November 1985 in the Tyne and Wear area.

    The Department's local offices do not keep separate statistics on the number of claims for a board and lodging allowance made by persons aged under 26 years. The information is not therefore readily available and can be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

    Income Support

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how much an unemployed single person, aged 24 years and who receives (a)heating additions and the average amount of single payment per annum will lose in benefit following the introduction of income support, using the assumptions in paragraph 2·4 of the technical annex of the White Paper, "Reform of Social Security" (Cmnd. 9691), and calculated on (i) a weekly and (ii) a yearly basis.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1985, c. 317–8]: As paragraph 1·45 of the White Paper makes clear, no one then on supplementary benefit would lose cash income at the point of introducing the new scheme because transitional protection will ensure that income support will make up weekly cash income to at least the same level as supplementary benefit did before the change.I assume however that the hon. Member is seeking information about the underlying entitlement in the cases he postulates. Since two thirds of single unemployed people aged 24 are non-householders, and therefore most unlikely to be receiving a heating addition but likely to be receiving a non-householder addition, any meaningful comparison must look at householders and non-householders separately.Assuming a basic rate heating addition and average water rates, the current supplementary benefit entitlement of a single 24-year-old unemployed householder would be £33·10; while that of a single 24-year-old non-householder receiving the non-householder addition would be £27·50. In either case, on the illustrative figures contained in the technical annex, the income support rate would be £24. Thus the change in underlying entitlement would be £9·10 a week (£470 a year) for the householder with the heating addition and £3·50 a week (£180 a year) for the non-householder with the housing addition.These calculations take no account of single payments, since the income support scheme is concerned with weekly payments of benefit.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) how much a 60 to 79-year-old single pensioner who currently receives (a)diet, (b)clothing,(c)heating additions and (d)the average single payment help will lose under his new income support scheme, using the assumptions in paragraph 2·4 of the technical annex of the White Paper, "Reform of Social Security" (Cmnd 9691);(2) how much a pensioner couple who both currently receive

    (a)diet, (b)clothing, (c) heating additions and (d)the average single payment help and are aged between 60 and 79 years will lose under his new income support scheme, using the assumptions in paragraph 2·4 of the technical annex of the White Paper, "Reform of Social Security" (Cmnd 9691).

    [pursuant to his reply, 19, December 1985, c. 317–318]:As paragraph 1·45 of the White Paper makes clear, no one then on supplementary benefit would lose cash income at the point of introducing the new scheme because transitional protection will ensure that income support will make up weekly cash income to at least the same level as supplementary benefit did before the change.

    I assume however that the hon. member is seeking information about the underlying entitlement in the cases he postulates. Assuming the basic rate additions for heating and diet, the estimated average clothing addition, and average water rates, the current supplementary benefit entitlement for those between 60 and 79 is £43·35 for a single pensioner householder, £65·85 for a pensioner householder couple, £3835 for a single pensioner non-householder and £68·35 for a pensioner non-householder couple. On the illustrative figures of the technical annex, income support rates in such cases would be £40·60 for a single pensioner and £63·25 for a pensioner couple receiving the lower pensioner premium, and £42·85 for a single pensioner and £65-45 for a pensioner couple receiving the higher pensioner premium— factors associated with ill-health or disability are among qualifying conditions for the clothing addition referred to by the hon. Member. Thus the difference between the two schemes would range from an increased underlying entitlement of £4·50 a week for a single pensioner non-householder receiving the higher income support premium to a decreased underlying entitlement of £2·75 a week for a single pensioner householder receiving the lower income support premium. No account is taken in these calculations of single payments, since income support is concerned only with regular weekly payments.

    It is estimated that fewer than 1 per cent. of pensioners currently receive the combination of additions mentioned in the question.

    Supplementary Benefit (Statistics)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what was the number and rate per 1,000 of the population of people on supplementary pension (a)nationally (b)in each social security region and (c)in each standard economic planning region for each year 1979 to the latest available date;(2) what was the number and rate per 1,000 of the population of people on supplementary benefit

    (a)nationally, (b)in each social security region and (c)in each standard economic planning region for each year from 1979 to the latest available date.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1985, c. 321]: The information for Great Britain as a whole is as follows:

    19791980198119821983
    Numbers of claimants and dependants on supplementary pension (000s) 2,0461,9812,0392,0981,925
    Rate per 1,000 of the pensioner population 214204207212195
    Numbers of claimants and dependants on supplementary benefit* (000s)4,3704,8636,1217,0707,238
    Rate per 1,000 of the total population8089112129132
    As information on population is not available for all social security regions and information on supplementary benefit recipients is not available for all standard regions, comparative rates are available only for England, Wales and Scotland as follows:

    19791980198119821983
    England
    Numbers of claimant and dependants on supplementary pension (000s)1,7561,7091,7521,8141,654
    Rate per 1,000 of the pensioner population209203208215196
    Numbers of claimants and dependants on supplementary benefit* (000s)3,6524,0925,1445,9396,088
    Rate per 1,000 of the total population7887110127130
    Wales
    Numbers of claimants and dependants on supplementary pension (000s)117108113111109
    Rate per 1,000 of the pensioner population220203212209205
    Numbers of claimants and dependants on supplementary benefit* (000s)267290370426437
    Rate per 1,000 of the total population95103131152156
    Scotland
    Numbers of claimants and dependants on supplementary pension (000s)173164174173163
    Rate per 1,000 of the pensioner population196186196196185
    Age in 1988 and earnings levelsTable number in the technical annex to the White Paper
    P1P2P3P4P5P6
    16 low earner83836060**
    middle earner1261268080**
    high earner161161110110**
    20 low earner818159599999
    middle earner1211217878146146
    high earner154154106106146146
    30 low earner757556549088
    middle earner1101107269131131
    high earner1381389691131131
    40 low earner706852497773
    middle earner1001006760118118
    high earner1241248777118118
    * Amounts were not shown for these cases in tables P5 and P6 of the technical annex.

    District Health Authorities

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) whether any district health authority chairman has expressed concern to him in discussions about the scope for efficiency savings in the current year and 1987; and if he will make a statement;(2) whether any district health authorities have made any representations to him about the scope for savings in cost improvement programmes in 1986–87 compared with 1985–86.

    [pursuant to his reply,15 January 1986, c. 600–1]: Any discussion about the scope for future cost

    19791980198119821983
    Numbers of claimants and dependants on supplementary benefit* (000s)451482608705713
    Rate per 1,000 of the total population8793117136138
    *Includes supplementary pensiners.

    Source:

    Benefit/pension figures: Annual Statistical Enquiries

    Population figures: Office of Population Censuses and Surveys.

    Pensions

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will publish versions of tables P1 to P6 of the technical annex to the White Paper, "Reform of Social Security" (Cmnd. 9691), showing projections based on current state earnings-related pension scheme provisions;(2) if he will provide the figures, for all the cases analysed in tables P1 to P6 of the technical annex to the "Reform of Social Security", published 16 December 1985, for an unmodified state earnings-related pension scheme on the same basis as those quoted for a modified state earnings related pension scheme.

    [pursuant to his replies, 19 December 1985, c. 320, and 16 January 1986, c. 596]: The following table gives the information requested. Amounts illustrated are total weekly state basic and earnings-related pensions assuming no change in the present scheme. All other assumptions are the same as those used and explained on pages 1 and 2 of the technical annex to the White Paper.improvement normally takes place at regional level, since regional health authorities are required to put forward an overall programme. Three district health authorities have however discussed the scope for increased programmes in 1986–87 with Ministers, in the context of wider issues.

    Radiation (Studies)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether the studies being undertaken by the Committee on the Medical Aspects of Radiation in the Environment particularly relating to the incidence of leukaemia and lymphatic cancer in young

    people living close to the royal ordnance factory, Burghfield and atomic weapons research establishment, Aldermaston will be made public; and when he expects the committee to report.

    [pursuant to his reply, 16 January 1986, c. 700]:Yes, the committee's findings on the incidence of leukaemia and lymphatic cancer in young people living close to the royal ordnance factory, Burghfield and atomic weapons research establishment, Aldermaston will be published but it is too early to predict when the committee will complete its deliberations.