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Volume 108: debated on Thursday 15 January 1987

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Written Answers To Questions

Thursday 15 January 1987

Employment

Labour Statistics

asked the Paymaster General if he will publish a table showing the most recent rates of unemployment in (a) all travel-to-work areas receiving regional development grants, (b) all travel-to-work areas receiving only regional selective assistance, (c) travel-to-work areas which receive no assistance but have rates higher than in (a) and (b), and (d) travel-to-work areas which receive no assistance but have rates within 2 per cent. of any in (a) and (b).

Following are tables giving the requested information for travel-to-work areas as at 11 December 1986. Table A shows the 42 travel-to-work areas which have development area status; table B the 57 travel-to-work areas which have intermediate area status; table C the 69 travel-to-work areas that receive no assistance but have rates higher than any in tables A or B; and table D shows the other 55 travel-to-work areas that receive no assistance but have rates within 2 per cent. of any in tables A and B.

Table A
Travel-to-work areaNumberRate
Newquay2,81427·8
Cumnock and Sanquhar4,55626·9
Cardigan1,67726·1
South Tyneside15,60825·7
Helston1,63625·2
Lampeter and Aberaeron1,18124·8
Penzance and St. Ives4,10423·7
South Pembrokeshire3,25823·5
Whitby1,49323·2
Holyhead3,98222·9
Hartlepool9,57122·3
Redruth and Camborne4,71422·1
Rotherham and Mexborough23,13122·1
Falmouth2,25221·9
Middlesbrough28,76421·8
Lanarkshire33,36621·2
Sunderland36,18220·9
Bathgate9,80820·6
Arbroath1,92920·5
Aberdare3,84120·5
Liverpool102,07219·8
Bishop Auckland8,42519·7
Blaenau Gwent and Abergavenny6,79419·2
Dumbarton5,60519·1
Merthyr and Rhymney9,82518·7
Shotton, Flint and Rhyl12,62318·4
Wigan and St. Helens34,30618·4
Stockton-on-Tees14,27718·3
Widnes and Runcorn11,07418·2
Newcastle-upon-Tyne64,36117·8
Scunthorpe9,04017·5
Wirral and Chester37,82417·4
Wrexham7,72316·9
Workington4,28916·7
Pontypridd and Rhondda10,71516·6

Travel-to-work area

Number

Rate

Corby3,91216·6
Dundee15,70915·8
Neath and Port Talbot6,91013·6
Total559,35119·4

Table B

Travel-to-work area

Number

Rate

Forres76625·7
Skye and Wester Ross1,20325·3
Sutherland95024·1
Western Isles2,35424·0
Girvan87623·6
Lochaber1,85023·2
Pwllheli1,23722·2
Fishguard71421·9
Invergordon and Dingwall3,09821·2
Badenoch79021·1
Newton Stewart70521·0
Dunoon and Bute1,62720·6
Barnsley15,78020·0
Doncaster20,72519·8
Bodmin and Liskeard3,86219·6
Telford and Bridgnorth11,66219·2
Porthmadoc and Ffestiniog1,18919·1
Campbeltown83418·9
Alloa3,55718·5
Morpeth and Ashington8,77018·3
Stranraer1,51718·1
Bangor and Caernarfon5,00418·1
Bude1,03918·1
Haverfordwest3,80117·9
Wolverhampton24,77017·8
Llanelli5,81417·8
Kirkcaldy11,59617·4
Wick81917·0
Walsall25,68017·0
Hull30,39916·8
Gainsborough2,06816·6
Rochdale10,29716·6
Dudley and Sandwell44,99516·5
Dunfermline8,36516·4
Bridgend8,85816·4
Falkirk11,09416·3
Sheffield46,95116·2
Bolton and Bury27,77615·8
Birmingham118,95215·8
Cinderford and Ross-on-Wye4,08715·6
Grimsby12,25815·4
Newport12,55815·3
Pontypool and Cwmbran5,66614·9
Blackburn9,65614·8
Plymouth18,36614·8
Kidderminster5,42714·8
Bradford30,41314·8
Coventry and Hinckley36,03514·8
Swansea16,50214·6
Ayr7,10214·4
Stewartry1,06514·0
Darlington6,76613·9
Manchester1107,98613·9
Oldham11,50013·8
Cardiff27,90113·7
Durham8,65013·4
Accrington and Rossendale5,94813·2
TOTAL800,23015·7

1Only part of Manchester travel-to-work area has intermediate status.

Table C

Travel-to-work area

Number

Rate

1 Skegness2,87325·0
2 Thanet8,27020·5
3 Alnwick and Amble2,10720·0
4 Great Yarmouth8,20519·3
5 Machynlleth59018·8
6 Torbay8,40118·5
7 Oban1,35118·4
8 Bideford1,71318·3
9 Clacton3,61518·1
10 Dartmouth and Kingsbridge1,24817·7
11 Bridlington and Driffield3,22817·7
12 Worksop4,26717·6
13 Louth and Mablethorpe2,21617·6
14 Buckie69517·2
15 Dolgellau and Barmouth76217·0
16 Isle of Wight7,49916·8
17 Blairgowire and Pitlochry1,67716·7
18 Goole and Selby4,54816·6
19 Minehead1,52416·5
20 Llandeilo56216·3
21 Islay/Mid Argyll76116·3
22 Lowestoft5,22416·3
23 Scarborough and Filey4,90916·0
24 Cromer and North Walsham2,75115·8
25 Conwy and Colwyn4,98315·8
26 Blackpool18,72815·7
27 Annan1,27015·4
28 Castleford and Pontefract8,84715·4
29 St. Austell3,55515·4
30 Chesterfield11,32715·4
31 Lancaster and Morecambe7,49215·3
32 Folkestone4,72915·3
33 Barnstaple and Ilfracombe3,73415·3
34 Totnes95215·1
35 Peterhead2,01215·1
36 Berwickshire72915·1
37 Torrington57215·0
38 Mansfield9,14015·0
39 Lockerbie60014·9
40 Launceston95914·8
41 Wisbech2,47114·7
42 Crieff51714·6
43 Wakefield and Dewsbury16,74814·6
44 Sittingbvourne and Sheerness5,66014·5
45 Brechin and Montrose1,86814·3
46 Harwich1,16114·2
47 Llandrindod Wells1,06714·2
48 Denbigh1,26014·2
49 Keswick45314·1
50 Horncastle and Market Rasen1,56514·1
51 Weston-super-Mare5,17214·1
52 Orkney Islands95114·1
53 Inverness5,30114·0
54 Banff1,10413·9
55 Retford2,78613·9
56 Lincoln8,55113·9
57 Huntly43313·8
58 Hastings6,57713·8
59 Keith72313·8
60 Fraserburgh85213·7
61 Bridgwater3,99613·7
62 Whitchurch and Market Drayton1,86413·7
63 Pendle4,23513·7
64 Stirling4,76113·6
65 Newton Abbot3,20413·6
66 Ludlow1,51413·4
67 Thurso80613·3
68 Richmondshire1,59013·3
69 Elgin2,07413·2
Total247,88915·6

Table D

Travel-to-work area

Number

Rate

1 Fakenham1,43913·2
2 Northwich6,09313·1
3 Newark3,05513·1
4 Nottingham43,72013·1
5 Huddersfield10,98613·1
6 Bridport95513·1
7 Southend31,73113·1
8 Thirsk58113·0
9 Dover and Deal4,89512·9
10 Barrow-in-Furness4,64912·8
11 Oswestry1,64312·8
12 Burnley5,65812·8
13 Warrington9,87312·7
14 Malvern and Ledbury2,44212·7
15 Calderdale9,99212·6
16 Peterborough11,57412·6
17 Welshpool85012·6
18 Canterbury5,63212·6
19 Okehampton55812·5
20 Truro2,71812·5
21 Keighley3,80012·5
22 Alfreton and Ashfield7,14012·5
23 Monmouth61112·5
24 Tiverton1,17312·4
25 Milton Keynes8,87812·4
26 Newtown1,02212·3
27 Beccles and Halesworth1,67012·3
28 Grantham2,69212·3
29 Gosport and Fareham6,35812·3
30 Sleaford1,32112·2
31 King's Lynn and Hunstanton5,07212·2
32 Portsmouth19,53912·1
33 Whitehaven3,70912·1
34 Bournemouth11,82612·1
35 Stoke23,24812·1
36 Derby17,76912·0
37 Forfar1,33012·0
38 Boston2,91912·0
39 North East Fife2,03312·0
40 Leeds40,02212·0
41 Windermere72412·0
42 Burton-on-Trent7,19111·9
43 Aberystwyth1,40211·9
44 Berwick-on-Tweed1,10911·9
45 Carlisle6,00411·7
46 Edinburgh35,60611·7
47 Thetford2,35311·6
48 South Molton47311·6
49 Hereford and Leominster5,06211·5
50 Hexham1,57111·5
51 Brighton18,58511·4
52 Southampton20,25511·4
53 Medway and Maidstone24,42811·3
54 Peebles53611·3
55 Swindon9,96511·3
Total456,44012·2

Home Department

Woolwich (Prison And Court Complex)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the latest estimated cost of (a) the new Woolwich prison and (b) the associated court complex.

The latest estimated cost of the new woolwich prison is £63·85 million. The latest estimated cost of the associated court complex is £10·93 million.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what are the expected start and completion dates of (a) the new Woolwich prison and (b) the associated court complex.

Advance works for the new Woolwich prison and the associated court complex started in May 1986 and are expected to be completed in May 1987. The main contract for the court complex is due to start in February 1988 and is expected to be completed by April 1990. A further month will be required to bring the court complex into operation. The main contract for the prison is due to start in June 1987 and is expected to be completed mid to late 1991. A further three months will be required after the buildings are handed over before the first prisoners can be received.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many local job opportunities he expects to be created by (a) the new Woolwich prison and (b) the associated court complex.

It is not possible to say precisely how many job opportunities are likely to be created, but direct employment by Woolwich prison may provide 20–25 jobs locally and the court complex about a further 10. Furthermore, in excess of 500 people, many of whom could be locally recruited will be required during the construction work.

Drug Misuse

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what information he has about the national crusade against drug abuse launched by President and Mrs. Reagan in the United States of America; and what lessons he has drawn for the United Kingdom in terms of providing additional ideas to assist Her Majesty's Government's drug misuse strategy.

The United States authorities keep us informed about all aspects of their strategy to combat drug misuse. Several components in our drugs policy have reflected lessons drawn from their experience. In particular, we constantly stress that Government action alone is not enough to tackle drug misuse; we need the support and commitment of the entire community.

Licensing Laws

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department. pursuant to the answer of 20 November, Official Report, column 292, when he expects to be in a position to say whether legislation might be introduced to reform the licensing laws in England; and if he will make a statement.

I cannot yet indicate the possible timing of any such announcement. A Private Member's Bill on this subject has recently been introduced by my hon. Friend the Member for Eastwood (Mr. Stewart).

Police Officers (Widows' Pensions)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department why he has not approved the agreement reached at the police negotiating board to increase the pensions of widows of police officers who retired before 1956; what is the weekly amount of the increase disallowed and the approximate amount cost of the pension disallowed.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply that I gave to a question from the hon. Member for Birmingham, Perry Barr (Mr. Rooker) on 12 January at column 73.

Forensic Science Service

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make a statement on the terms of reference and expected timetable of the Home Office review of the forensic science service.

The contribution of the Home Office forensic science service to the investigation and detection of crime is being considered as part of a wide-ranging review of the scientific support required by the police service in England and Wales and how this might best be provided. A separate exercise is about to be undertaken to measure the work being done in the operational laboratories of the forensic science service. The terms of reference for this study are to be discussed with the departmental trade union side shortly. Both reviews are expected to have been completed by August 1987.

Electronic Data Systems

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) what investigation is being carried out by the immigration service into advice from staff of Electronic Data Systems, a copy of which has been sent to him by the hon. Member for Linlithgow, about their behaviour when undergoing immigration control;(2) when he expects to reach a decision as to whether to take legal action against Electronic Data Systems in relation to alleged breaches of immigration rules.

Member's Correspondence

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when the hon. Member for Rugby and Kenilworth may expect to receive a reply to his letters of 15 August 1986 and 20 November 1986 which refer to Mr. V. R. Taylor of Rugby.

I regret the delay which occurred in dealing with my hon. Friend's letters. I have written to him today.

News International Plant, Wapping

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what arrangements have been made to provide police on duty at Wapping with riot equipment; and if the equipment available includes CS gas, smoke and plastic bullets.

Police officers at Wapping have been provided with the usual protective equipment. Plastic baton rounds and CS have not been made available.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will detail the number of injuries sustained by the Metropolitan police during the News International dispute; and if he will list those injured on a monthly basis and the injuries sustained.

The Commissioner informs me that up to 9 January, 410 police officers had sustained injuries. The injuries ranged from concussion and cuts and bruises to burns and broken limbs. More detailed information is not readily available and could be obtained only at disportionate cost.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) if he will provide details on the total number of police deployed at the News International plant since the dispute began;(2) if he will list the number of police officers provided by the Metropolitan and City police forces to police the News International plant at Wapping on a daily basis for each month since February 1986 to date.

The number of Metropolitan police officers deployed at the News International plant varies from day to day and hour to hour depending on the public order situation. I understand from the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis that up to and including 31 December 1986 nearly 1·2 million police man hours had been spent by the Metropolitan police in connection with the dispute. Although City of London officers police marches by print workers which pass through the city they are not regularly deployed outside the News International plant itself.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will detail the number of injuries by civilians during the News International dispute; and if he will list those injured on a monthly basis and the injuries sustained.

I understand from the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis that this information is not available. Such injuries are not necessarily reported to the police.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) if he will outline the mutual aid arrangements established across the Metropolitan police district to ensure that the operational requirements for police cover have been met during the News International dispute at Wapping;(2) if he will list the Metropolitan police divisions which have sent officers to Wapping; and what were the numbers of officers sent on each occasion.

I understand from the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis that officers from all eight areas in the Metropolitan police district have been deployed in connection with policing the News International dispute. The numbers provided by a particular area on a particular occasion depend on the requirement at Wapping, and other policing requirements elsewhere in the Metropolitan police district. Rest day working and other overtime are options available to senior officers to ensure that operational requirements are met. Records of the number of officers provided by each area or division are not kept centrally, and this information could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will provide details of the mutual aid arrangements made with forces outside London to ensure the operational requirements of policing the News International plant at Wapping have been met.

I understand from the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis that he has not requested any such aid.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will detail the daily cost of policing the Wapping News International dispute in overtime payments; and if he will provide a total cost of overtime necessitated by the dispute.

I understand from the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis that the daily cost in overtime payments of policing the News International dispute is not available. The total cost of police overtime up to the end of November is estimated at about £4·6 million.

New Prison, Wrexham

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) what permanent new employment he expects to be created as a result of his plans to build a new prison at Wrexham; and if he will make a statement;(2) on what days he first informed Wrexham Maelor borough council and Clwyd county council of his intention to build a category C closed prison for about 600 inmates at Wrexham;(3) whether he will consider plans for building a smaller prison at Wrexham than at present suggested;(4) if he is prepared to consider, for the new prison, sites in addition to the one at present under examination at Wrexham, if any are found to be available and generally acceptable.

Dogs (Working Party)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will publish the report of the working party set up to consider the findings of the removal of canine faeces projects carried out by the London borough of Barking and Dagenham, the borough of Gosport, the north-west Leicestershire district council and the Rochester upon Medway city council; and whether he intends to offer an extension of the bye-law to other areas.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he has received the report on the experimental schemes allowing six local authorities powers to deal with the problem of dog-fouling; and when it will be published.

We have received this report and, as I stated in replies which I gave to questions by my hon. Friend the Member for Macclesfield (Mr. Winterton) at columns 554–558 on 17 December 1986, we are considering whether the results of the experimental scheme provide a sufficient basis on which to make the bye-laws available for adoption by other local authorities, and expect shortly to announce the conclusions we have reached. The publication of the report will coincide with this announcement.

Nuclear Weapons Convoys

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he intends to issue new guidance on the movement of nuclear weapons convoys to chief fire officers.

It has been the long standing policy of this and previous Governments not to comment on methods of transporting nuclear weapons. However, there is continuing liaison between the representatives of chief fire officers and Ministry of Defence staff about the role of the fire service in the handling of incidents involving radioactive materials and guidance to chief fire officers is kept under review.

Police Officers (Fatalities)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many police officers were killed on duty in 1978 and each year since.

The number of police officers killed on duty in England and Wales since 1978 is as follows:

Number
197814
197910
19805
198110
198215
198316
198415
19857
19869

Crime Prevention

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will list the agencies to be involved in a multi-agency effort to deter and combat crime.

We already actively encourage all agencies and organisations in the public, private and voluntary sectors to identify ways in which they can help to prevent crime. A vast range of projects and initiatives have been introduced or are planned which involve a number of agencies or organisations combining their knowledge, expertise and resources to undertake specific crime prevention activity at national and local level. A

Good Order and Discipline (note 1)Own Protection (note 2)
DateNumberPer cent. of south east Region populationNumberPer cent. of south east Region population
31 October 1985370·42182·5
31 October 1986500·53323·8

Note 1: These figures exclude women and inmates of youth custody and detention centres for whom figures are not available.

Note 2: These figures exclude women and inmates of youth custody and detention centres and unconvicted prisoners, for whom figures are not available.

Attorney-General

Peter Wright (Trial Costs)

asked the Attorney-General, pursuant to the answer of 12 January, Official Report, column 16. concerning the cost of the Peter Wright case in Australia, good example is our five local demonstration projects where the local authorities, police, probation, local companies and other local agencies, including voluntary groups have adopted a multi-agency approach to crime prevention in their communities.

Community/Police Consultative Group

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make a statement about the reasons for writing to the Community/Police consultative group for Lambeth on 23 September to say that the Government have allowed the Metropolitan Police (Compensation) Act 1886 to remain on the statute book even though the Government no longer accept the principles upon which it is based; and if he will specify the principles with which his Department disagrees.

[pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 734]: I assume the hon. Member is referring to the Riot (Damages) Act 1886. My right hon. Friend the Home Secretary wrote to the chairman of the Lambeth consultative group in reply to a letter from her enclosing a copy of the group's report on the disorders in Brixton in September 1985. The report contained proposals for amending the 1886 Act. The Act is based on the assumption that riots are the result of a failure to provide adequate policing and that those who suffer damage to their premises or property in the course of a riot should therefore be entitled to compensation from the police fund for the area. As my right hon. Friend's letter explained, we no longer accept these assumptions but have retained the Act because it provides help to small businesses and households in inner city areas which may be vulnerable to riots.

Rule 43

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what was the number and proportion of prisoners held on rule 43 in the Prison Department's south-east region at the end of October in 1976, 1985 and 1986 respectively.

[pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 734–5]: Figures for 1976 are not available. The information requested for the years 1985–86 is as follows:if he will give a breakdown of the total cost between (i) travel and subsistence of witnesses, (ii) fees to counsel, (iii) fees to solicitors and (iv) other legal expenses.

I shall break down the total cost to public funds to date of the court action in Australia into two categories: the first, travelling and subsistence for officials, is approximately £55,000; the second, legal fees, is approximately £115,000.

Transport

Flying (Environmental Impact)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will introduce legislation to ensure that small airfield companies, such as flying clubs, gliding, microlights and parachute clubs, take account of the environmental impact of their activities; and if he will make a statement.

No. I am satisfied that the current legislation gives me adequate powers to take account of the environmental impact of operations at small airfields.

Car Count (Modbury-Bigbury)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport how many people are involved in the car count on the Modbury to Bigbury road; and at what cost to the taxpayer each year.

M5 (Lane Closure)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will name the contractor who closed a mile-long section of the M5 on the inner lane of the southbound carriageway immediately before Taunton Deane motorway service area on Sunday 4 January; and if he will investigate why no work was being conducted within that sector.

The lane closure was introduced during Sunday afternoon by Somerset county council to enable essential maintenance work to start early on Monday 5 January. Operations of this nature are best carried out during daylight hours when traffic is at its lightest and lane closure introduced with the minimum disruption to the travelling public.

British Airways

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will list the total amount of money spent and committed for spending by his Department and by British Airways in preparation for the sale of British Airways, showing separately how much has been spent on advertising.

As is customary, I shall publish the full details of the costs associated with British Airways privatisation after the flotation has been completed. Advertising costs, in particular, can be subject to last minute changes which would make it inappropriate to publish estimates now.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will list the foreign states in which a media campaign has been launched to aid the sale of British Airways, showing the amount in pounds sterling committed in each country.

No media campaign has been or will be launched in any foreign state to aid the sale of British Airways.

Aircraft Noise

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will list the positions and functions of those members of staff of his Department who are contributing to the work of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation committee on the challenges of modern society pilot study on aircraft noise in a modern society.

My Department has contributed in the past to this study but is not actively involved at the present.

M1-M6 Interchange

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will now take steps to introduce full lighting and fog detectors at the M1–M6 interchange junction 19.

There are no immediate plans to light junction 19, which has a relatively good accident record, but the situation is under review.There are also no plans to provide fog detection equipment at junction 19. As announced on 29 October, trials of differing designs of fog detection equipment will be carried out over this winter and next winter to decide which design best meets the Department's requirements. The new system will then be installed at the 30 fog prone sites on the M25 identified by the Meteorological Office. The work is due for completion in 1990. The effectiveness of the system will be monitored to determine whether it should be used on other motorways.The ultimate responsibility for safety in fog rests with the drivers themselves.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will call for a report from the chief constable on the circumstances surrounding the accident on the southbound carriageway of the M1/M6 at junction 19 on Thursday 8 January.

Officials are in regular contact with the Leicestershire police at senior and operational level and will together consider what can be learned from the unfortunate series of accidents and if any steps can be taken to reduce the possibility of a repetition.

Ticket Fraud

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what instructions are given to British Transport police with regard to the detection and prevention of ticket fraud; and what is the nature of their relationship in this work with London Regional Transport staff.

It is the function of the British Transport police to protect both the general public using the Underground and London Underground staff from crime and th effects of crime. It is also their function to protect and safeguard London Underground's property. They have a duty to assist in the detection and prevention of any offence against the law or against the railway byelaws, including ticket fraud. It will not normally be necessary for staff to seek the assistance of the British Transport police in order to deal with minor offences of fare evasion, but the police may be called upon by London Underground management by individual members of staff if they believe that assistance is needed, for instance where they believe that there is a risk of violence directed against staff.

Underground (Ticket Checks)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport under what authority British Transport police are undertaking checks at Pimlico and Brixton underground stations on tickets; and if he will make a statement.

British Transport police officers have not been engaged in checking tickets. The checks referred to have been undertaken by travelling ticket inspectors employed by London Underground Limited during operations to clamp down on fare evasion on this part of the Victoria line. Police have been present in order to reduce the risk of assault on staff carrying out these ticket checks.

Drinking And Driving

asked the Secretary of State for Transport (1) if he has any plans to introduce mandatory warning labels against drinking and driving on all alcohol containers;(2) if he has any plans to introduce mandatory signs or posters in premises where intoxicating liquor is sold concerning the dangers of drinking and driving.

I believe the drinks trade is aware of the major contribution it can make in the battle against drinking and driving. A number of useful initiatives have been taken by the trade, one of which involved the circulation of new publicity material for use on licensed premises. I am keen to explore with the trade how its role can be developed further. We have no plans for action on a mandatory basis.

Trade And Industry

Trade Descriptions Act 1972

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry when he anticipates bringing forward legislation to repeal the Trade Descriptions Act 1972 and replacing it with a new measure further to protect the consumer; and if he will make a statement.

Provision for repeal of the 1972 Act is made in the Consumer Protection Bill which is currently being considered in another place. It is the Government's intention that the entry into force of the repeal of the Act should coincide with that of any order providing for successor arrangements so that there will be no intervening period when no regime applies.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what representations he has received regarding the Government's intention of seeking repeal of the Trade Descriptions Act 1972.

I have received representations from a number of hon. Members and from some trade associations and local authorities.

Time Share Agencies

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what discussions have taken place recently between the Government and representatives of time share agencies regarding the possible need for increased consumer protection and greater regulation of the industry.

I have exchanged correspondence and held meetings with representatives of time share developers. My Department has also held several such meetings. These discussions have covered both the current situation in the industry and the consumer advice leaflet which my Department will be issuing shortly.

Aid To Industry

asked the Secretary of Stae for Trade and Industry how much has been spent in each year by the Government since 1983 on regional aid to industry to each of the English regions, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland; and through which agencies this finance was spent.

Figures for calendar years are not readily available, and expenditure is shown for financial years from 1983–84:

Expenditure1 at Current Prices
£ million
Region1983–841984–851985–863
Northern127·5122·294·4
North West101·4101·685·9
Yorkshire & Humberside35·541·934·3
East Midlands17·610·18·3
West Midlands5·5
South West11·913·711·8
Scotland222·4184·5204·7
Wales113·5141·1132·1
Great Britain2629·8615·0577·0
Northern Ireland103·0129·1145·5
United Kingdom732·8745·1722·5

Notes:

1 All figures are gross and include payments to nationalised industries.

2 The Great Britain total does not always equal the sum of the component parts due to rounding.

3 Figures for 1985–86 are provisional estimates.

The agencies through which this expenditure was spent are as follows:

English Regions

The Department of Trade and Industry and the English Industrial Estates Corporation.

Scotland

The Scottish Office (Industry Department for Scotland), the Scottish Development Agency, the Highlands and Islands Development Board and the Department of Trade and Industry.

Wales

The Welsh Office (Industry Department), the Welsh Development Agency, the Development Board for Rural Wales and the Department of Trade and Industry.

Northern Ireland

The Northern Ireland Department of Economic Development and the Industrial Development Board.

The items included in the expenditure are regional development grants and regional selective assistance under the Industrial Development Act 1982, and expenditure on land and factories by the English Industrial Estates Corporation, the Scottish and Welsh Development Agencies, the Development Board for Rural Wales, and the Highlands and Islands Development Board. Northern Ireland has a different range of financial incentives available and the items included in the expenditure have been restricted to aids similar to the main forms of regional preferential assistance; these are selective financial assistance payable under part III of the Industries Development (NI) Order 1982, general assistance (capital) grants payable under part IV of the order, and land and factories expenditure.

Petrol Prices

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry when the Office of Fair Trading last investigated petrol prices; and when it next intends to do so.

Manufacturing Output

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what is the most recent figure for the index of output in manufacturing industry; and what was the comparable figure six, seven and eight years ago.

The information requested is given in the table.

Index of output of the manufacturing industries (1980 = 100)
October
1978108
1979108
198094
1986106

Btr-Pilkington

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry when he expects the Office of Fair Trading to complete its consideration of the BTR bid for Pilkington.

Education And Science

Science And Technology

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what recent steps he has taken to strengthen the knowledge and skills of the United Kingdom in science and technology.

My right hon. Friend announced on 6 November that the recurrent grant to universities for 1987–88 will go up by £95 million compared with the grant for 1986–87, an increase of over 7 per cent. and that equipment grant will go up by £6.5 million, an increase of over 6 per cent. This extra money will allow the universities to continue as the main providers of basic scientific research. In addition the science budget for 1987–88 will be £39 million more than in 1986–87, an increase of 6.3 per cent. Since the Government took office in 1979 the science budget has increased by 10.6 per cent. over the rate of general inflation.My right hon. Friend has also undertaken a number of measures to promote awareness of and competence in science, mathematics and technology across the whole range of educational provision. For a description of these I refer my hon. Friend to the Department's written evidence to the House of Lords Select Committee on Science and Technology on 4 June 1986 (House of Lords Minutes of Evidence (71-xiv) page 385).My right hon. Friend's proposals to establish a network of city technical colleges are also designated to strengthen the teaching of science and technology throughout the school stytem.

School Sizes

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science on what research evidence his Department bases its guidelines for minimum school sizes, as outlined in the White Paper, "Better Schools."

The White paper, "Better Schools", gives a general indication of the size thresholds at which schools of different types can deliver a satisfactory curriculum economically. This is based on curriculum modelling and on evidence from inspections of schools by Her Majesty's inspectorate.

Dr J G Beaumont

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when the hon. Member for Rugby and Kenilworth may receive a definitive reply to his letters of 29 September and 4 December 1986 which refer to Dr. J. G. Beaumont.

Aids

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will list the occasions on which the Medical Research Council has sought funding for research on AIDS since 1983; and what was the outcome in each case.

I refer the hon. Member to my right hon. Friend's reply of 18 December 1986 to my hon. Friend the Member for Surrey, South-West (Mrs. Bottomley) at columns 666–67.The Medical Research Council has supported research on AIDS from within its science budget allocation since 1983. They have sought additional funding for this research on two occasions.In 1985 the council sought £0·5 million a year from 1986–87 to fund an epidemiological research centre to monitor the spread of AIDS in the United Kingdom. The greater part of the cost (£0·3 million) was met by a contribution from the health departments. The council met the remaining £0·2 million from its science budget allocation for 1986–87 onwards (which included £2.5 million new money).

Sacred Heart Primary School, London

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) why he has refused financial approval for the years 1987–88 for the replacement of Sacred Heart primary school in Trott street, Battersea, London; and if he will make a statement;

(2) when he plans to reply to the letter of 8 December 1986 from the hon. Member for Battersea concerning Sacred Heart primary school, Trott street, Battersea, London.

Resources for grant-aiding governors' expenditure at aided and special agreement schools, such as Sacred Heart, are limited. Priority is given to projects which provide extra places in areas where there is an overall shortage of places or which take out of use surplus places. Beyond that, it was possible this year to allocate funding to a very small number of the most urgent improvement projects. Sacred Heart was not one of these.A reply to the hon. Member's letter of 8 December will be sent as soon as possible.

Energy

Electricity Supplies (Channel Cable Link)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will list, on a monthly basis, the amount of electricity supplied to the Central Electricity Generating Board grid system from France via the Channel cable link since its inception to November 1986.

The figures arc published in table 1 of my Department's publication "Energy Trends".

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will list, on a monthly basis, the amount of electricity supplied to France from the Central Electricity Generating Board grid system via the Channel cable link since its inception to November 1986.

Coal Imports

asked the Secretary of State for Energy from which countries coal has been imported during the last 12 months; and what information he has in each case as to the extent to which the United Kingdom price of that coal properly reflects the cost of production, marketing and distribution.

In the past 12 months coal has been imported from Australia, the United States, Poland, South Africa, West Germany, Canada, the Netherlands, Belgium and Colombia. Information on how the delivered price is calculated is not available.

Nuclear Power Stations

asked the Secretary of State for Energy (1) further to his reply to the hon. Member for Rother Valley on 18 December, Official Report, column 621, concerning emergency arrangements at nuclear power stations, what is the statutory requirement for emergency arrangements to be rehearsed regularly; what is the typical number of inspectors present during the annual exercise at each location; whether any full-scale exercises have been undertaken in recent years other than those witnessed by Her Majesty's Nuclear Installations Inspectorate; whether he has any plans to review the content or frequency of exercises of emergency arrangements; and if he will make a statement;(2) further to his replies to the hon. Member for Rother Valley on 27 November 1986,

Official Report, column 302,

and 18 December 1986, Official Report, column 621, concerning duly authorised persons and exercises of emergency arrangements at nuclear power stations, what proportion of duly authorised persons at a typical station is associated with each separate shift; what arrangements are made for newly appointed duly authorised persons to participate in annual exercises witnessed by Her Majesty's Nuclear Installations Inspectorate in the first year of appointment; with what frequency a duly authorised person participates in such annual exercises; what proportion of annual exercise scenarios include rehearsal of off-site measures to protect the public; with what frequency each manager or deputy manager participates in exercises of off-site measures to protect the public; and if he will make a statement.

Coal Production

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will make a statement on the present production of the coalfields in view of recent fires at two pits and the consequences for production in Scotland and Wales.

This is a matter for British Coal, and I shall ask the chairman to write.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

United Kingdom Elections

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what provision he has made for information to be available in local languages at United Kingdom missions abroad on how to vote in United Kingdom elections.

None except in France where newspaper advertisements in English have been accompanied by a French translation as required by French law.

Lie Detectors (Gchq)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on the operation of polygraph lie detectors at Government communications headquarters.

The first phase of the polygraph pilot scheme undertaken following the recommendations of the Security Commission in its report on the case of Geoffrey Prime (Cmnd. 8876) has been completed. This included the examination of staff of the Security Service and of senior members of GCHQ.It has been decided to commission some further independent research into the validity of the polygraph. No decision has yet been taken on the starting date for the 2nd phase of the pilot scheme, which would include the testing of a random sample of the staff of GCHQ.

Government Department (Trade Unions)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what plans he has to extend the ban on trade unions from the Government communications headquarters to other parts of his Department.

It is not our intention to extend the measures introduced at the Government communications headquarters beyond those agencies whose primary functions are concerned with security and intelligence.

Lie Detector Tests

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what plans he has to introduce polygraph lie detector tests in parts of his Department in addition to the Government communications headquarters.

Rape Trial (Perpignan)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if, having regard to the conduct of the British honorary consul in Perpignan and others, he will provide funds for the representation by senior and junior counsel of the two British complainants as co-prosecutors in the trial for raping them of Marc Diaz and Frank Noguera, and for the prompt payment to them of an ex gratia payment in lieu of criminal injuries compensation; if he will provide further funds for the same complainants as co-prosecutors of Mr. Paul Kutner; and if he will make a statement.

Successive Governments have confirmed that public funds are not available to assist those engaging in legal proceedings abroad. Complainants must seek legal advice on the availability or otherwise of legal aid in the country concerned. Awards under the criminal injuries compensation scheme are made on an ex gratia basis and apply only to cases arising in Great Britain or on British registered ships or aeroplanes. Charges against Mr. Kutner in the United Kingdom have not been pursued and he has not been charged in France.

Gibraltar

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on the outcome of his discussions on Gibraltar with the Spanish Foreign Minister on 13 and 14 January.

As provided for in the Brussels agreement of November 1984, the Spanish Foreign Minister and I held a full discussion of differences between our two Governments over Gibraltar, including the issues of sovereignty, as well as ways of promoting co-operation between Gibraltar and Spain. The discussions were held in a positive, friendly spirit as befits two EC partners and NATO allies.

Argentina

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs when the talks in the United States of America between United Kingdom and Argentinian officials began; what rank of officials are representing the United Kingdom; on what basis the talks are being held; what is the role of the United States Administration; what other countries are involved; what subjects are being discussed; and if he will make a statement.

Mr Rajendra Ramasamy

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs when the hon. Member for Newham, North-West can expect a reply to his letter regarding Mr. Rajendra Ramasamy sent to the Home Office on 4 November 1986 and passed on to the Foreign Office on 9 December 1986; and when Mr. Ramasamy can expect to receive his student visa.

Mr. Ramasamy's application is still being considered. I shall write to the hon. Member as soon as possible.

Kenya (Aids)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what advice is given by the High Commission in Nairobi to British visitors to Kenya concerning the risk of AIDS in various parts of Kenya.

Advice for British nationals travelling anywhere overseas on AIDS or other infectious and communicable diseases is contained in the pamphlet SA35/1987, "Protect Your Health Abroad", published by the Department of Health and Social Security and freely available from travel agents.

Environment

Local Authorities (Vacant Land)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) in which areas it is compulsory for local authorities to register vacant land held by them on the public land register;(2) in which areas it is not compulsory for local authorities to register vacant land held by them on the public land register; and what steps he proposes to take to make this procedure compulsory.

Part X of the Local Government, Planning and Land Act 1980 has been brought into operation throughout England. No English local authorities are exempt from its provisions.

London Docklands

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will hold an inquiry into planning applications made by the London Docklands Development Corporation in respect of the royal docks and West Ferry Circus.

My right hon. Friend expects to issue shortly his decision on whether or not to call in the planning application for West Ferry Circus that has been submitted to him as a departure from the development plan. There are no applications with the corporation at present to develop land in and around the Royal Victoria, Royal Albert and King George V docks.

Commission For The New Towns

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement on the present status of New Town Commission tenants; and what decisions have been reached concerning their future landlords.

Tenants of the Commission for the New Towns at Basildon have exactly the same status as regards security of tenure and the right to buy as they had before the wind-up of the Basildon development corporation last year. No decision has been taken about the future ownership of the new town housing at Basildon, and none will be until the tenants have been fully consulted.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement on the disposal of the New Town Commission's assets.

The purposes for which the Commission for the New Towns exists are set out in section 36 of the New Towns Act 1981 (as amended by the New Towns and Urban Development Corporations Act 1985) and include the disposal, as soon as it considers expedient to do so, of property transferred to it from former development corporations and any other property held by it. By virtue of section 37 of the 1981 Act (as amended) the commission may not, other than with the general or special authority of the Secretary of State, dispose of any property by way of gift or for a consideration less than the best reasonably obtainable.

Housing Finance

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list in the Official Report for each local authority in England (a) the housing investment bid submitted for 1986–87, (b) the allocation announced, (c) the allocation as a percentage of the bid in each case and (d) the 1986–87 allocation in each case.

A table showing this information in the form requested is being prepared and will be placed in the Library shortly.

Building Research Establishment

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will bring up to date the table of staffing of the Building Research Establishment given in the reply by the hon. Member for Ealing, Acton (Sir G. Young) on 11 June 1984; what is the current shortfall of staff in post compared with the authorised complement (a) overall and (b) in the science category; and what is the proposed complement for 1987–88.

The manpower allocation for the Building Research Establishment was 771 for 1 April 1986. There were 755 staff in post on 1 April 1986. On that date there were (a) overall 16 fewer staff than allowed for in the complement and (b) in the science category six fewer staff than in the complement.The manpower allocation for the Building Research Establishment is 751 for 1 April 1987. There were 742½ staff in post on 1 December 1986. On that date there were

(a) overall eight and a half less staff than allowed for in the 1 April 1987 allocation and (b) in the science category five and a half more staff. The detailed figures are in the table.

Building Research Establishment

Complement 1 April 1987

Staff in Post 1 December 1986

Science category

Grade 311

Complement 1 April

Staff in Post 1 December 1986

Grade 411
Grade 545
Grade 61618
Grade 76061
SSO9096
HSO10596½
SO7471
ASO2229
373378½

Research officers

SRO11

Professional and technology category

Supt. Eng. (Grade 6)11
Supt. Architect (Grade 6)11
Grade 7109
SPTO2016½
HPTO1213
PTO1818
6258½

Administration group

Grade 61
Grade 722
SEO22
HEO55
EO1818
CO6254½
CA
9087

Information officers

Senior Information Officers11
Information Officers44
Assistant Information Officers11
66
Librarian1
Assistant Librarian11
21

Graphics Officers

Graphics Officer III11
Graphics Officer IV21
Technical Grade I4
Tracer½
78

Personal Secretaries and Typists

Senior Personal Secretary11
Personal Secretary1818½
Typing Manager43
Typists1514
3836½

Photographers

Chief Photographer11
Principal Photographer43
Senior Photographer54
108

Other Grades

Assistant Chief Photoprinter11
Photoprinter I32
Photoprinter II34
Senior Data Processor34
Data Processor2

Complement 1 April 1987

Staff in Post 1 December 1986

Senior Messenger22
Messenger3
Telephonists55
2225
Total: Non industrial615609½
Total: Industrial140133
Total: All grades751742½

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will make a statement on the current level of morale, performance and scientific output at the Building Research Establishment; and what proposals he has for the long-term future of this organisation.

The performance and scientific output, which are the best measures of morale at the Building Research Establishment, remain high (in quality and content), as can be judged from the recent annual report (1985–86), a copy of which has been placed in the House of Commons Library. The establishment has been the subject of a recent study by Sir Henry Chilver and Sir Peter Harrop, which is being considered.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects the Building Research Establishment to complete the investigation into the Reema type of prefabricated reinforced concrete houses.

[pursuant to his reply, 14 January 1987]: The Building Research Establishment's report on Reema hollow panel system houses (now designated under the housing defects legislation) was published in December 1984, and a copy is in the Library. The BRE's investigations of later, different forms of Reema construction will be covered in its report on large panel buildings generally, likely to be available early this summer.

Princes Risborough Laboratory

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will make a statement on progress to date in transferring the facilities of the Princes Risborough laboratory to the main Building Research Establishment site at Garston; what financial and staffing resources were allocated for timber research in each of the years 1984–85, 1985–86 and 1986–87; and how the allocations compared with the actual outturn.

Arrangements for the transfer of research facilities of the Princes Risborough laboratory to the main site at Garston are proceeding satisfactorily; transfer should be completed by the end of 1987.Allocations of direct BRE research staff to timber research in 1984–85, 1985–86, 1986–87 were 37, 36 and 33·2 respectively, while outturns were 32·4 in 1984–85, 35·9 in 1985–86 and are estimated as 32·6 in 1986–87. At full economic cost, BRE's outturn expenditure, including in-house work and that carried out externally, in 1984–85, 1985–86, 1986–87 was £1,781,131, £2,086,951 and £1,943,625 (estimated) respectively.Previous answers given to similar questions were given in Supply Vote terms.

Nuclear Industry Radioactive Waste Executive

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what exchanges on environmental issues occur between his Department and the Nuclear Industry Radioactive Waste Executive.

My Department and NIREX discuss as necessary issues of common interest, including environmental ones in pursuit of the Government's published policy on radioactive waste disposal.

Camber Castle

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what are the reasons for the delay in the opening of Camber castle at Rye to the public; and if he will make a statement.

Camber castle is one of the many ancient monuments which are now managed on my right hon. Friend's behalf by the Historic Buildings and Monuments Commission. I understand that it has been undergoing repairs. It is for the commission to decide how much of the castle can be opened to the public and how soon. My hon. Friend may therefore wish to take this up with the chairman, Lord Montagu of Beaulieu.

Land Use

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish a Green Paper setting out his objectives and policies for long-term change in strategic planning of rural land use, with specific reference to related factors including the cost and quality of rural transport.

I published on 15 September 1986 a consultation paper on the future of development plans. Inter alia, this referred to the arrangements for development planning in rural areas.

Sandwell (House Repairs)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will consider the allocation of extra funds to the Sandwell metropolitan borough council under the rate support grant settlement for housing repairs under the Housing Defects Act and subsequent amendment.

The rate support grant is an unhypothecated grant and would therefore be an inappropriate tool for taking account of expenditure by a particular authority on housing repairs.

Aircraft Noise

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) if he will place in the Library a copy of the report of the pilot study on aircraft noise in a modern society to the recent annual meeting of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation committee on the challenges of modern society;(2) if he will make a statement on the progress and future activities of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation committee on the challenges of modern society pilot study on aircraft noise in a modern society.

The pilot study on aircraft noise in modern society has not yet completed its report. I understand that it aims to complete an interim summary report before the May plenary of the committee itself, but that the final report will not be ready for some considerable time. I shall arrange for a copy of the interim report to be placed in the Library when it is published.

asked the Secretary of State for the Enviroment if he will list the positions and functions of those members of staff at his Department who are contributing to the work of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation committee on the challenges of modern society pilot study on aircraft noise in a modern society.

My Department is not directly involved in the work of this pilot study. The United Kingdom's contribution to it is the responsibility of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Defence. My Department is represented usually at grade 7 level on the committee itself, which oversees the work of all pilot studies.

Leeds (Urban Programme)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will state the grounds on which he rejected applications under the urban programme from the Ley Lane Tenants Association and the Broadlea Residents' Action Group, Leeds.

Derelict Urban Areas

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will authorise additional funding to attract private sector interests to participate in approved private-public partnership schemes for the regeneration of derelict urban areas.

The Government's plans for public expenditure on urban regeneration, including support by the way of urban development grant and urban regeneration grant for schemes undertaken by the private sector, are set out in the White Paper on public expenditure which was published yesterday.

Urban Development Corporations

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will give details of the four new urban development corporations; when they will be set up; when they will start work; and if he will make a statement.

An order designating the first of the four proposed urban development corporations, the Trafford Park development corporation, was laid before Parliament on 15 December 1986. My right hon. Friend has appointed consultants to advise him about the other three; for the Black Country, Teeside and Tyne and Wear, and will make the necessary orders as soon as possible after receiving their reports.

London Residuary Body

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many days each of the part-time members of the London Residuary Body have worked since their appointment; and what has been the total remuneration paid to each one.

The relevant terms of appointment of each part time member of the London Residuary body are as follows:

MemberDays per weekRate of Remuneration (from 1 July 1986) £ per annum
A Blakemore, CBE212,492
J Esling424,984
W J M MacKenzie, OBE212,492
M C Roberts318,738
J Wolkind, CBE212,492
Councillor Sir Peter Bowness16,246
Within these terms of appointment, the day-to-day organisation of work and the method of remuneration are matters for the residuary body. My right hon. Friend has no information on the first part of the hon. Member's question.

Redditch Borough Council

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects to reply to the submission from Redditch borough council in respect of housing issues which was made on 27 November 1986.

I hope to be in a position to reply to the chief executive officer, borough of Redditch within the next few days.

Defective Housing

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many local authorities have received special loan sanctions to re-purchase defective housing in advance of reinstatement schemes being available.

Under the housing defects legislation local authorities decide whether to repurchase, or provide grant for reinstatement, in accordance with the rules laid down in the legislation. They do not need my Department's approval for the exercise of the judgment the law requires of them. Nor do they need special loan sanction to enable them to finance their decisions.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many local authorities have drawn his attention to problems with roof trusses on dwellings constructed between 1965 to 1975; and what has been his response.

The only local authority which has made representations to me on this subject is the borough of Redditch, to which I shall be replying shortly.

Departmental Staff

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many staff were employed by his Department in 1979 and for each subsequent year; what estimates have been made on the effect of changes in staff numbers upon the efficiency of his Department; and he will make a statement.

The number of staff employed by the Department of the Environment (Central) since April 1979 is:

Number

1 April 197912,358
1 April 198011,654
1 April 198110,962
1 April 19828,802
1 April 19837,813
1 April 19846,605
1 April 19856,561
1 April 19866,521

The overall reduction of 5,837 (47 per cent.) between 1 April 1979 and 1 April 1986 has been achieved by a number of means:

Per cent.

Hiving off1,69829
Privatisation2554
Contracting out3386
Transfers to other departments1,14120
Other savings2,40541
5,837100

The 2,405 "other savings" reflect a sustained drive to reduce costs and improve efficiency.

Chief Radiochemical Inspector

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects to receive the annual report of the Chief Radiochemical Inspector.

I received the second annual report of Her Majesty's Radiochemical Inspectorate from the Chief Radiochemical Inspector today. Copies have been placed in the Library of the House.

Inner London Education Authority

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what action he proposes to take to bring the Inner London education authority in line with other local authorities by making its members subject to disqualification following surcharge and audit action.

My right hon. Friend has today laid before the House an order under section 101 of the Local Government Act 1985 which will extend audit related disqualification provisions to the members of the Inner London education authority, thus bringing it into line with elected representatives in all other local authorities. The order will provide for ILEA members themselves to be disqualified following audit action, and will also apply disqualification to

  • any disqualified persons who at any future date seek election to the Inner London education authority.
  • any persons who become disqualified in future, even if as a result of actions taken before the date of this order.
  • any persons disqualified as a result of action taken after the date of this order.
It will not disqualify members of the authority by reason of certificate issued against them before the order comes into operation until such time as they cease to be members of the authority.The order also includes two minor unrelated, miscellaneous provisions.

Rates

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what information he has about regional variations in levels of rates, and especially between London boroughs and county councils; and if he will make a statement.

[pursuant to his reply 12 January 1987, c. 37]: Comparisons of rate poundages between London and the rest of the country are complicated by the special arrangements for the payment of block grant in London and by the separate London resource equalisation scheme. Average rate poundages in London at 168p are therefore lower than the average rate poundage in the non-metropolitan areas—211p. Average domestic rate bills in London are, however, higher at £485 than in the non-metropolitan areas—£377—because of the higher rateable values in London. The Government do not accept that it is sensible to expect ratepayers in different parts of the country to pay widely different prices for equivalent levels of local services. Our proposals for a community charge will remove this anomaly.For business ratepayers, large and unpredictable changes in rate bills from year to year, unrelated to the value of services provided, may be more damaging than the absolute level of rate payments. Our proposals for a uniform business rate poundage, linked to inflation, will allow businesses to plan with more confidence.

Prime Minister

Mid-Kent Constituency

Q101.

asked the Prime Minister if she has any plans to pay on official visit to the Mid-Kent constituency.

State Security

Q124.

asked the Prime Minister, pursuant to her answer of 4 December, Official Report, column 728, why she will not establish an inquiry into allegations that members of the security services conducted surveillance on Government Ministers in the 1970s under the code name Oatsheaf; and if she will make a statement.

I have nothing to add to the reply given by my right hon. Friend the Home Secretary during the debate on 3 December 1986 at column 959.

Engagements

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 15 January.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 15 January.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 15 January.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 15 January.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 15 January.

This morning I presided at a meeting of the Cabinet and had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others. In addition to my duties in this House I shall be having further meetings later today.

Lie Detectors (Gchq)

asked the Prime Minister if there has been any change in Her Majesty's Government's policy on the use of lie detectors at Government communications headquarters, Cheltenham.

No. I refer the hon. Member to the reply he received today from the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs.

Universities

asked the Prime Minister whether it was with her authority that Mr. Tony Fairclough, chief scientific administrator at the Cabinet Office, advocated making a few universities internationally competitive as centres of excellence in selected areas of sciences; and if she will make a statement.

In advocating greater selectivity and concentration of resources for scientific research in higher education, Mr. Fairclough was fairly representing the view of the Government that there needs to be greater concentration and selectivity of research activities in order to strengthen international competitiveness and make the most effective use of resources. The University Grants Committee, with the encouragement of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Education and Science, is already implementing a more selective policy for research funding in the universities.

Government Communications Centre

asked the Prime Minister when the new Government communications centre in Whitehall will be completed.

There is no centre of the type described in the question.The Central Computer and Telecommunications Agency (CCTA) is undertaking a number of enhancements to their telecommunications network, spread over a five year period.The Whitehall central branch exchange (CBX) modernisation is in the second phase of the relevant five year plan. Eight new CBX area exchanges are being introduced between 1985 and 1990.A large tandem exchange, the London tandem, is used to support the Government telephone network (GTN) and the CBX. This exchange will also be modernised with replacements in two stages, which are planned for 27 July and 23 November this year.

Inner Cities

asked the Prime Minister if she will describe the duties of the Department of the Environment and the Department of Employment relating to the implementation of Government policies concerned with the regeneration of the inner cities.

My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment has responsibility for the inter-departmental urban programme which targets specific grant resources on urban areas to support a range of initiatives to stimulate enterprise, improve the environment and encourage self-help. He also has responsibility for other programmes and initiatives which aim to attract private investment and regenerate hard-pressed urban areas, including urban development corporations, urban development grant, derelict land grant and the new urban regeneration grant, and "Estate Action", an initiative to tackle the problems of urban housing estates.My noble Friend the Secretary of State for Employment oversees the work of the five city action teams in the inner city partnership areas to improve the contribution of relevant Government programmes, including those of his Department and the Manpower Services Commission, Department of Trade and Industry and the Department of the Environment to meet the Government's urban policy objectives. In addition, my right hon. Friend the Paymaster General and Minister for Employment is responsible for an inter-departmental inner city initiative involving eight task forces promoting enterprise and employment opportunities at neighbourhood level.

Alcohol (Expenditure)

asked the Prime Minister what estimate can be made of the annual total expenditure on alcohol in the United Kingdom.

Consumer expenditure on alcoholic drink in the United Kingdom was estimated to be £15·8 billion in 1985.

Nationalised Industries

asked the Prime Minister what rules govern the acceptance of paid consultancies by chairmen of nationalised industries.

The chairmen of nationalised industries are subject to the terms and conditions laid down in their letters of appointment. In general, acceptance of any outside appointment needs to be approved by the Secretary of State of the sponsor Department concerned, who must be satisfied that the chairman will continue to give sufficient time to his duties with the board, and that there is no conflict of interest. In the case of some nationalised industries, the Secretary of State is required by statute to satisfy himself from time to time that the chairman has no such financial or other interest as is likely to affect prejudicially the exercise and performance of his functions as a board member.

Scotland

Teachers

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on the current situation as regards teachers in Scottish schools.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to the hon. Member for Edinburgh, East (Mr. Strang) and to the hon. Member for Roxburgh and Berwickshire (Mr. Kirkwood) by my right hon. and learned Friend on Wednesday 14 January 1987.

Ministers (Factory Opening Ceremonies)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list all of the factory opening ceremonies at which Scottish Office Ministers have been present in their official capacity since 1979, with the dates of each opening ceremony.

This information is not held centrally and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

Jobs

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish a table showing the numbers and percentages of jobs lost, or gained, in Scotland between June 1979 and December 1986, or the latest month for which figures are available, in (a) all industries, (b) all manufacturing industries, (c) all service industries, (d) shipbuilding and repairing, (e) metal goods, engineering and vehicles, (f) mechanical engineering, (g) electrical electronic engineering and instrument engineering, (h) health, education and person social services, (i) retail distribution and (j) banking, insurance and finance.

Information about job gains and losses is not available from the Department of Employment's statistics, but an indication of the net changes can be seen by comparing levels of employment at June 1979 and June 1986, the latest date for which estimates are available.Comparable Scottish estimates of the numbers of employees in employment in the shipbuilding and repairing, mechanical engineering, electrical and electronic engineering and instrument engineering industries are not available for June 1979 or June 1986. The available information is given in the following table.

Employees in employment in Scotland: net changes between June 1979 and June 1986
Net change
1980 SICIndustryNumberPer cent.
0–9All industries and services-216,000-10
2–4All manufacturing industries-192,000-32
6–9All services industries+34,000+3
3Metal goods, engineering and vehicles-76,000-30
93–99Education, health and other services+31,000+8
64/65Retail distribution-9,000-5
8Banking, insurance and finance+33,000+27

Expenditure Programmes

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish a table showing (i) estimated outturn for 1986–87, (ii) estimated outturn for 1986–87 expressed in real terms at 1987–88 prices and (iii) planned expenditure for 1987–88 for each of the expenditure programmes within his responsibility.

The information on the programmes within my responsibility is as follows:

£ million
ProgrammesEstimated Outturn (1986–87)1Estimated Outturn 1986–87 (real terms)2Planned Expenditure 1987–881
Agriculture, fisheries and food189196186

Programmes

Estimated Outturn (1986–87)1

Estimated Outturn 1986–87 (real terms)2

Planned Expenditure 1987–881

Industry, energy, trade and employment (excluding tourism)344357257
Scottish Block Tourism131313
Roads and transport582604601
Housing637661696
Other environmental services618641610
Law, order and protective services566587627
Education1,9592,0321,956
Arts and libraries808382
Health and personal social services2,4642,5562,605
Other public services112116118
Local authority current expenditure not allocated to services1244
Total Scottish Block37,0307,2947,431
Nationalised industries' EFLs24125087
Total expenditure within the responsibility of the Secretary of State for Scotland37,8058,0987,961

1Figures have been taken from table 3.16 of the 1987 Public Expenditure White Paper (Cm 56).

2The real terms figures are the cash figures adjusted by the GDP deflator (1987–88 = 100).

3Figures have been rounded to the nearest £ million and therefore do not necessarily sum to the totals. Estimates of outturn are liable to change as more information becomes available.

4Includes £50 million earmarked for local authority current expenditure on education.

Water Fluoridation Act 1985

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what steps he has taken to date to implement the provisions of the Water Fluoridation Act 1985 in Scotland.

Departmental circulars were issued to the health and water authorities in Scotland in December 1985. The authorities were advised to engage in informal discussions, but not to enter any formal arrangements for fluoridation schemes until further guidance was issued by the Departments. Circulars now being prepared give detailed guidance on the implementation of the Act, including a model form of agreement between the authorities and a comprehensive code of practice on the technical aspects of fluoridation.

Agricultural Guidance And Guarantee Fund Awards

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) if he will list in the Official Report the name of each firm, or individual, in the Banff and Buchan constituency who received a European agricultural guidance and guarantee fund award for livestock in the years 1979 to 1986, showing each award and year received separately;(2) if he will list in the

Official Report the name of each firm or individual in the Banff and Buchan constituency who received a European agricultural guidance and guarantee fund award for livestock and livestock products in the years 1979 to 1986, showing each year and each award separately;

(3) if he will list in the Official Report the amount of European agricultural guidance and guarantee fund awards to individual fish processing firms in the Banff and Buchan constituency for the years 1979 to 1986, showing the amount of the award and the name of the recipient firm;

(4) if he will list in the Official Report the name of the firm and the amount of the European agricultural guidance and guarantee fund award granted to meat processing firms in the Banff and Buchan constituency in the years 1979 to 1986, each year shown separately;

(5) if he will list in the Official Report the amount and names of all fishermen who have received European agricultural guidance and guarantee fund awards in the years 1979 to 1986 for newly built vessels in the Banff and Buchan constituency;

(6) if he will list in the Official Report the name of the firm, or individual, who received a European agricultural guidance and guarantee fund grant in the years 1979 to 1986 within the Banff and Buchan constituency for crops, other than cereals, showing the amount of each grant and the year received;

(7) if he will list in the Official Report the name of the firm and the amount of the European agricultural guidance and guarantee fund award granted to cereal companies in the Banff and Buchan constituency in the years 1979 to 1986, showing each year separately;

(8) if he will list in the Official Report the name of the firm and the amount of the European agricultural guidance and guarantee fund award granted to poultry processing firms in the Banff and Buchan consitituency for the years 1979 to 1986, showing each year separately;

(9) if he will list in the Official Report the amount and the names of all fishermen in the Banff and Buchan constituency who have received a European agricultural guidance and guarantee fund grant in the years 1979 to 1986 for modernisation or re-engining of vessels, showing each name and amount separately.

The information is not readily available in the form requested. As the final answer will be rather lengthy I shall write to my hon. Friend as soon as possible and arrange to place the information in the Library of the House.

Livestock Loan Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is satisfied with the current operation of the livestock loan scheme for crofters.

Demand for assistance under the scheme has been very low over the last 10 years and the future of the scheme is currently under review. The Highlands and Islands Development Board is better placed to offer assistance and for some time now potential applicants have been referred to that body.

Wales

Higher Education

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he is able to announce his decisions on local authority higher education provision in 1987–88; and if he will make a statement.

Having consulted the Welsh Joint Education Committee and the Welsh Counties Committee I have decided that the advanced further education quantum for 1987–88 should he set at £34·1 million. This represents a 10 per cent. increase between 1985–86 and 1986–87. However, I have decided that £300,000 of the quantum should he used to fund the following selective initiatives:

  • Development of in-service training courses to increase the supply of Welsh medium secondary school teachers;
  • Development of arrangements for the commercial exploitation of institutions' facilities and expertise;
  • Development of provision for continuing education and professional up-dating (PICKUP).
The Wales Advisory Body has agreed to invite local authority institutions to submit competitive bids under these headings and to advise me on the distribution of the £300,000.I have received advice from WAB on the planned disposition of academic provision and the number of student places on higher education courses in local authority colleges in Wales. The WAB proposals provide for a groth of nearly 1 per cent. between estimated enrolments of 13,528 full-time equivalents in 1986–87 and target student numbers of 13,636 for 1987–88. The proposals provide for a continued emphasis to be given to courses in science, engineering and other vocational disciplines and for sub-degree and part-time provision to be protected.The WAB has also provided advice on how the AFE quantum, net of the £300,000 for selective initiatives, should be distributed between local authorities, and I have also consulted the WJEC and the WCC about this. The proposals for distributing the quantum are related to the proposals for target student numbers for 1987–88 by institution, mode of attendance and subject; and they allow additional funding for degree and postgraduate courses. Following a review of funding for the mono-technic colleges, WAB has recommended that Dyfed and Gwynedd should continue to receive some cash protection for 1987–88 in respect of the College of Librarianship Wales and the Normal college Bangor.I have decided to accept the WAB's advice on academic provision and student numbers and on the methodology for distributing the quantum. The local education authorities have been informed of these decisions and of their individual allocations.Copies of a note explaining the methodology by which the AFE quantum for 1987–88 is being distributed have been placed in the Libraries of both Houses.

Msc Schemes

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what proportion of those taking part in the Manpower Services Commission sponsored schemes in Wales are (a) over 50 but under 60 years of age and (b) over 60 years of age.

Comprehensive information is not available in the form requested. The only information held centrally relates to the enterprise allowance scheme, on which, according to December 1986 statistics, 11·8 per cent. of participants in Wales are aged between 45 and 54 and 3·5 per cent. are aged between 55 and 65. Information relating to the ages of participants on other schemes is available only for Great Britain as a whole.

Number of registered milk producers
1983
MarchJuneSeptemberDecember
Clwyd1,1741,1741,1741,174
Dyfed4,0274,0214,0134,011
Gwent431431429427
Gwynedd673672671673
Mid, South and West Glamorgan356357355357
Powys606610610611
WALES7,2677,2657,2527,253

Source: Milk Marketing Board of England and Wales.

Number of registered milk producers

1984

March

June

September

December

Clwyd1,1671,1661,1631,135
Dyfed4,0004,0044,0003,931
Gwent425423421414
Gwynedd666661661635
Mid, South and West Glamorgan357354353348
Powys608605603583
WALES7,2237,2137,2017,046

Source: Milk Marketing Board of England and Wales.

Number of registered milk producers

1985

March

June

September

December

Clwyd1,1231,1161,1111,107
Dyfed3,9033,8893,8493,839
Gwent410406404402
Gwynedd629624617611
Mid, Glamorgan South and West Glamorgan346336333331
Powys579573567560
WALES6,9906,9446,8816,850

Source: Milk Marketing Board of England and Wales.

Number of registered milk producers

1986

March

June

September

Clwyd1,1201,1201,123
Dyfed3,8543,8293,817
Gwent404402397
Gwynedd612606598
Mid, South and West Glamorgan341339338
Powys560599552
WALES6,8916,8556,825

asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether there are any Welsh-based Manpower Services Commission schemes which operate in England.

Milk Quotas

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many milk producers have left the farming industry in each of the Welsh counties since the introduction of the milk quota scheme.

The number of registered milk producers in each of the Welsh counties since March 1983 is given in the following table:

Source: Milk Marketing Board of England and Wales.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether he will introduce amendments to present legislation to prevent loss of milk production to Wales through sales of milk quotas.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will publish the figures for the amount of milk quotas sold by Welsh producers to producers outside Wales, and the amount of quota bought by Welsh producers from outside Wales, and the net loss or gain of quota to Wales, since the scheme came into operation; and if he will make a statement.

Movement of quota in and out of Wales as recorded by the Milk Marketing Board during the period 1 April 1985 to 17 November 1986 has been as follows:

North WalesSouth Wales
In+3·1 million litres+2·7 million litres
Out-4·1 million litres-6·9 million litres
Net Loss-1·0 million litres-4·2 million litres
Loss as percentage of total quota-0·2 per cent.-0·4 per cent.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales by what means is it possible for milk quotas to be reallocated separately from the land to which it was originally attached.

Quota may be transferred separately from the land to which it is attached through a temporary reallocation by a purchaser within a production year, or as a result of quota made available through an authorised outgoers' scheme.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what has been the decrease in production of milk in each of the Welsh counties since the introduction of the milk quota scheme.

Sales of milk off farms for each of the Welsh counties for the last three financial years have been as follows:

Milk Production (Million Litres)
1983–841984–851985–86
Clwyd319·3298·8299·0
Dyfed980·3909·8916·0
Gwent146·7134·6137·2
Gwynedd103·393·192·2
Mid, South and West Glamorgan89·781·982·0
Powys140·8127·6129·6
WALES1,780·11,645·81,656·0

Source: Milk Marketing Board of England and Wales.

Education

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what was the number of Welsh school-leavers entering full-time degree courses at university in 1986.

Information in respect of school leavers in the academic year 1985–86 is not yet available. Survey results for 1984–85, however, indicate that 2,520 school leavers intended to enter full-time degree courses at universities. This figure excludes those who intended to enter full-time degree courses at polytechnics or BEd. teacher training courses.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what was the percentage of Welsh candidates passing three or more A-levels in 1986.

Information supplied by the Welsh Joint Education Committee indicates that 28·4 per cent. of all candidates taking WJEC A-level examinations in the summer of 1986 passed three or more A-levels.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what was the percentage of Welsh pupils gaining grade C or above in all O-levels in 1986.

Information, as supplied by the Welsh Joint Education Committee, indicates that the proportion of attainments of grade C or above in all O-level and alternative syllabus subject entries in the 1986 summer examinations was 48·6 per cent.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many Welsh students in maintained schools sat examinations in the following O-level subjects, at WJEC, in 1985: art and design, commerce, geology, German, Italian, religious studies, Welsh language, Welsh literature, engineering, Welsh 03 and general science.

The information, as supplied by the Welsh Joint Education Committee is as follows:

O-level candidates1 in maintained schools
Number
Art and Design11,395
Commerce1,544
Geology1,073
German1,475
Italian61
Religious Studies748
Welsh Language1,711
Welsh Literature1,255
Engineering22,717
Welsh 032,578
General Science157

Notes:1 Including entries for alternative syllabus examinations.

2 Comprising engineering drawing, engineering workshop practice and graphical communication.

Trawsfynydd Power Station

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will publish a list of the estimated maximum exposures of members of the public in respect of Trawsfynydd nuclear power station, showing (a) the dose equivalent for each year of operation, expressed in millisieverts and (b) the average dose equivalent of the 10-year period ending in each recent year, expressed in millisieverts; what changes are expected to take place concerning maximum exposures of members of the public; and if he will make a statement.

(a) The data are all available in MAFF annual reports entitled "Radioactivity in Surface and Coastal Waters of the British Isles", copies of which are available in the Library of the House. The close equivalent (m Sv) to the critical group resulting from the discharge of liquid effluent into Lake Trawsfynydd for each year of operation is as follows:

Prior to 1968Too low to measure accurately
19680·2
19690·2
19700·15
19710·25
19720·3
19730·3
19740·35
19750·4
19761·05

Prior to 1968

Too low to measure accurately

19770·15
1978<0·1
1979<0·1
1980<0·15
19810·55
19820·35
19830·25
19840·32
19850·21

(b) The average annual dose equivalent (m Sv) for 10-year periods (assuming the dose for 1978 and 1979 lo be 0·1 m Sv each year and the dose for 1980 to be 0·15 m Sv).

1968–77

0·34

1969–78

0·33

1970–79

0·32

1971–80

0·32

1972–81

0·35

1973–82

0·35

1974–83

0·35

1975–84

0·34

1976–85

0·32

We do not expect any major change to the exposures of members of the public, but the situation will be kept under review.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what information is available to his Department of the additional exposure to radiation of members of the public expected to arise from the prospective new nuclear power station at Trawsfynydd; what assessment level would be used in the safety case for a new station in respect of the maximum radiation exposure of any member of the public during normal operations; and if he will make a statement.

No decisions have been taken by the CEGB about the timing of the closure of the present station at Trawsfynydd, or about whether it should be replaced.If any further nuclear power station were to be constructed at Trawsfynydd, any additional exposure to members of the public would depend on the type of station constructed and it is not possible to make a precise calculation at this stage. However, the criteria recommended by ICRP will be fully taken into account in assessing the safety case for any such power station.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether his Department provided information to the Radioactive Waste Management Advisory Committee relevant to the study of liquid radioactive discharges from Trawsfynydd nuclear power station mentioned in the sixth annual report of that body; what reports his Department has received of that study; whether any further studies have been undertaken or commissioned; and if he will make a statement.

The information was provided by the Directorate of Fisheries Research at the request of the Department, which received a copy of the relevant paper. The directorate carries out an extensive programme of monitoring in the aquatic environment around major United Kingdom nuclear sites, including the effects of liquid radioactive discharges from Trawsfynydd nuclear power station. The results are published annually by MAFF in a series of reports entitled "Radioactivity in Surface and Coastal Waters of the British Isles".

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if, further to his reply to the hon. Member for Merionnydd Nant Conwy on 12 December, Official Report, column 317, concerning the estimated doses of radioactivity received by critical groups in respect of Trawsfynydd nuclear power station, he will state (a) what members of the public comprise the critical group mentioned, (b) what pathway or pathways of exposure are relevant for members of that critical group and (c) the annual number of sample measurements used to derive the estimated annual doses received by members of that critical group; and if he will make a statement.

(a) The members of the public comprising the critical group are anglers who consume rainbow and brown trout caught in the Lake.

(b) The relevant pathway is internal irradiation from the consumed fish.

(c) Approximately four samples per year each of rainbow and brown trout are analysed on behalf of the Department to assess the critical group dose. Each sample consists of approximately six individual fish. Further, more numerous analyses are carried out by the site operator as a condition of authorisation. The results of these two programmes are in agreement. The actual numbers of samples vary somewhat from year to year depnding on availability.

"A Good Old Age"

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what action he intends to take to improve services for elderly people in Wales in the light of consultation on his Department's document, "A Good Old Age"; and if he will make a statement.

In the light of the encouraging response to "A Good Old Age" I intend to establish a programme of demonstration projects in order to stimulate new developments in the provision of care for elderly people in Wales. I have issued a circular today which invites local authorities, health authorities and other organisations to review the scope for further development of their services in the light of "A Good Old Age" and to submit bids for this programme. I intend to make available for this programme sums of up to £1 million in 1987–88, up to £2 million in 1988–89 and up to £4 million in 1989–90. I also intend to continue this special funding during the following five years in the light of available resources. A copy of the circular has been placed in the Library of the House.

Northern Ireland

Official Unionist And Democratic Unionist Parties

15.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will publish evidence available to him of links between the Official Unionist and Democratic Unionist parties and paramilitary organisations.

Where there is any evidence to suggest that a member of a political party, or anyone else, may be involved with a proscribed organisation the police will make inquiries and, where appropriate, bring charges against those concerned. It is no part of the Government's or the Royal Ulster Constabulary's duties to investigate the legitimate activities of constitutional political parties.

Security

16.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will make a statement on the security situation in Northern Ireland.

Since 27 November, three civilians and one policeman have died as a result of the security situation in the province. Sixy one people died in Northern Ireland last year as a result of the security situation and one person has already died this year.The security threat remains high and there are no grounds for complacency, but the courageous and determined efforts of the security forces are continuing to yield results. During 1986 a total of 655 people were charged with serious offences, including 12 with murder and 215 weapons, 29,000 rounds of ammunition and almost 5,400 lb of explosives have been recovered. Over 531 people were convicted during 1986 of offences related to terrorism.

Royal Ulster Constabulary

18.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland when he last met the Chief Constable of the Royal Ulster Constabulary; and what was discussed.

I have regular meetings with the Chief Constable and the General Officer Commanding in Northern Ireland to discuss policy issues of common concern in the security field. It is not my practice to give details of the timing of these meetings.

Devolved Government

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what proposals he has for promoting devolved government in Northern Ireland.

The Government have proposed a round table conference on devolution and in advance of this is ready to facilitate informal talks among the parties. There is a wide measure of support for a return of greater responsibility to Belfast from Westminster and we have received a number of representations in support of this.

Anglo-Irish Agreement

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland whether he will make a statement on the level of co-operation regarding cross border security since the signing of the Anglo-Irish Agreement.

Net Change in Employment June 1979 to June 1983
June 1979 to June 1983 Employees in Employment:AllManufacturingServicesConstructionSelf Employment1
South East
thousands-391-33810-4979
per cent.-5-100-1312
East Anglia
thousands-14-2826-515
per cent.-2-146-1219
South West
thousands-83-736-1367
per cent.-5-171-1546
West Midlands
thousands-299-272-10-1236
per cent.-13-28-1-1226
East Midlands

While security co-operation on the ground between the Royal Ulster Constabulary and the Garda Siochana was already good, the Anglo-Irish Agreement has resulted in increased contact and co-operation at all levels between the two forces. Three joint working parties established by the two police forces have now reported and a special ministerial meeting within the framework of the intergovernmental conference was held on 31 October to review progress in implementing, the ability of the security forces to combat cross-border terrorism will be significantly increased.

Employment

Labour Statistics

asked the Paymaster General what is his latest estmate estimate of the number of people actively seeking work who are classified as unemployed; and what percentage of the total unemployed this represents.

The following information is in the Library. According to the results of the labour force survey, in Great Britain in the spring of 1985, there were 2·81 million people without a job who had sought work in the week prior to the survey compared with 3·13 million claiming benefits as unemployed people. Further details are contained in an article published in the October 1986 issue of Employment Gazette entitled "Unemployment figures: the claimant count and the Labour Force Survey".

asked the Paymaster General if he will publish a table for each region Scotland and Wales, showing the net loss or gain in numbers, and by percentages in (a) employees, (b) manufacturing employment, (c) the service sector and (d) construction for the years June 1979 to June 1983 and June 1983 to June 1986.

The information is given in the following table. The comparisions with June 1986 are based on the slightly revised estimates of employees in employment for that date which were released earlier today. Therefore they do not correspond in all respects to figures given to the hon. Member previously.

June 1979 to June 1983 Employees in Employment:

All

Manufacturing

Services

Construction

Self Employed1

thousands-129-12111-941
per cent.-8-201-1335
June 1983 to June 1986 Employees in Employment:

South East

thousands260-138435-25224
per cent.4-99-831

East Anglia

thousands742353126
per cent.111312428

South West

thousands54859-845
per cent.426-1121

West Midlands

thousands78-1097

2

12
per cent.4-1907

East Midlands

thousands911293-13
per cent.6212-12

1Regional estimates of self employment are not available for separate industries.

2Less than 1,000.

Net Change in Employment June 1979 to June 1983

June 1979 to June 1983 Employees in Employment:

All

Manufacturing

Services

Construction

Self Employed1

Yorkshire and Humberside

thousands-239-208-2-1935
per cent.-12-290-1726

North West

thousands-374-277-66-2010
per cent.-14-29-4-155

North

thousands-191-119-35-2214
per cent.-15-29-5-2718

Wales

thousands-145-102-20-142
per cent.-14-32-3-232

Scotland

thousands-203-160-8-2019
per cent.-10-26-1-1312
June 1983 to June 1986 Employees in Employment:

Yorkshire and Humberside

thousands5-4079-369
per cent.0-88-341

North West

thousands-41-6033-456
per cent.-2-92-325

North

thousands20-2155-519
per cent.2-79-821

Wales

thousands-30-112-528
per cent.-3-50-1022

Scotland

thousands-12-3242-124
per cent.-1-73013

1Regional estimates of self employment are not available for separate industries.

asked the Paymaster General what is his estimate for each regional area of the numbers and percentages of net job losses or gains by each industrial category, including categories of service employment and the construction industry, from June 1979 to June 1986.

Net changes in employment between June 1979 and June 1986
thousands
South EastEast AngliaSouth WestWest MidlandsEast Midlands
ChangePer cent. changeChangePer cent. changeChangePer cent. changeChangePer cent. changeChangePer cent. change
Employees in Employment1
Agriculture, forestry and fishing-7-9-8-20-2-4-2-7-3-9
Energy and water supply (1)-19-15-4-33-6-19-12-22-19-20
Metal manufacturing and chemicals (2)-48-23115837-48-29-20-25
Metal goods, engineering and vehicles-273-28-10-11-35-16-217-35-58-25
Other manufacturing (4)-156-23-6-6-33-19-17-8-31-11
Construction (5)-74-20-4-10-21-25-12-12-9-13
Distribution, hotels and catering (6)8762015-2-1822711
Transport and communications (7)-46-71842-4-5-12-1234
Banking, insurance and finance (8)281352048454253461927
Other services (9)123621122863985315
Self Employed23034741521127748344438
1Figures in brackets denote the divisions of the 1980 Standard Industrial Classification.
2Regional estimates of self employment are not available for separate industries.
Net changes in employment between June 1979 and June 1986
Yorkshire and HumbersideNorth WestNorthWalesScotland
ChangePer cent. changeChangePer cent. changeChangePer cent. changeChangePer cent. changeChangePer cent. change
Employees in Employment1
Agriculture, forestry and fishing-5-16-1-6-2-13-2-9-17-35
Energy and water supply (1)-38-32-20-29-22-29-23-37-19-26
Metal manufacturing and chemicals (2)-78-48-58-38-41-40-47-45-34-41
Metal goods, engineering and vehicles-94-38-141-35-71-39-52-43-76-29
Other manufacturing (4)-75-25-137-33-28-22-15-16-83-31
Construction (5)-22-20-24-18-27-33-20-32-21-14
Distribution, hotels and catering (6)19541-26-11-2-1-7-2
Transport and communications (7)-11-10-33-20-7-11-15-26-25-19
Banking, insurance and finance (8)43443522162816363327
Other services (9)276-38-63912-16-5346
Self Employed2104786631334330244327
1Figures in brackets denote the divisions of the 1980 Standard Industrial Classification.
2Regional estimates of self employment are not available for separate industries.

asked the Paymaster General what is his estimate for each regional area and the United Kingdom as a whole of the number of employees in second jobs in (a) June 1979 and (b) June 1986.

Estimates from the 1979 and 1985 labour force surveys of the number of persons in employment with a second job as an employee are presented in the following table:

The figures are given in the following tables. They are based on the slightly revised estimates of employees in employment for June 1986 which were released earlier today. Therefore they do not correspond in all respects to figures given to the hon. Member previously.

Persons in employment1 with a second job as employee
Thousands
Region19791985
Northern1223
Yorkshire and Humberside2547
North West3658
East Midlands2838
West Midlands2346
East Anglia1220

Region

1979

1985

South East90183
South West2552
Wales1113
Scotland2637
Northern Ireland

2

11
United Kingdom297529

1Estimates relate to the spring of each year. Figures for 1985 include those on government schemes, whereas 1979 only include those on schemes if reported as in employment.

2Less than 10,000.

asked the Paymaster General what is his estimate for each parliamentary constituency of the United Kingdom of (a) the numbers of net job losses or gains since June 1979, (b) the numbers of manufacturing job losses or gains and (c) the numbers of construction job losses or gains; and if he will express each figure as a percentage of the numbers employed in June 1979 in each sector.

I regret that the information requested is not available.The Department's statistics for parliamentary constituencies monitor only net changes in total employees between census dates and do not provide an industry breakdown. The available census estimates for constituencies are from the September 1981 census of employment. Estimates from the following census, relating to September 1984, are not yet available.

Msc Schemes

asked the Paymaster General if he will make a statement on the participation of people between the ages of 55 and 65 years in Manpower Services Commission sponsored schemes.

I have agreed that there should now be common age limits for men and women on Manpower Services Commission employment and training programmes. The cut-off age for participation in MSC measures is the 65th birthday.The latest date for entry to programmes is determined on a programme-by-programme basis, depending upon the aims and objectives of the programme concerned.Information on cut-off ages for entry for each scheme is as follows:

Age
Community Programme63
Voluntary Projects Programme63
Enterprise Allowance Scheme*65
Job Training Scheme65
Training Grants for Employers65
Wider Opportunities for Training Programme65
Restart65
*From 1.2.87.

asked the Paymaster General what proportion of those taking part in Manpower Services Commission sponsored schemes in England are (a) over 50 but under 60 years of age and (b) over 60 years of age.

The information is not available in the form requested. However the latest scheme-by-scheme information available shows:

Enterprise Allowance Scheme—in England 12·5 per cent. of entrants are aged 45–55 and 5·3 per cent are aged 55–65.
Community Programme—in Great Britain 7 per cent of participants are aged 45–55 and 3 per cent. are aged over 55.
Voluntary Projects Programme—in Great Britain 8 per cent. of participants are aged 50 and over.
Jobstart—in Great Britain 5·9 per cent. of allowance recipients are aged 45–54, 1·8 per cent. are aged 55–59 and 0·4 per cent. aged 60–64.
Adult Training Schemes—the information is not available nationally.
Information is not kept on the ages of people counselled under the restart programme or entering restart courses or jobclubs.

Health And Safety

asked the Paymaster General when the names and addresses of companies where major accidents, as defined by regulation 2(1) of the Control of Industrial Major Accident Hazards Regulations 1984, will be published by the Health and Safety Executive.

There is no intention to publish the names and addresses of companies where major accidents, as defined by regulation 2(1) of the CIMAH regulations, have occurred.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment when the information about major accidents sent by the Health and Safety Executive to the European Commission, as required by regulation 5 of the Control of Industrial Major Accident Hazards Regulations 1984, will be published.

There is no intention to publish information about major accidents sent by the Health and Safety Executive to the European Commission under regulation 5 of the CIMAH regulations.The European Commission will set up a register containing certain details of all major accidents notified to it by the member states, including the United Kingdom. The information in this register will be made available to the competent authorities in each member state so that they may benefit from the exchange of information and take account of any lessons to be learnt.

Foreign Nationals

asked the Paymaster General if his policy of allowing foreign companies to recruit, without work permits, specified numbers of foreign nationals to work in the United Kingdom permits such companies to employ, in addition to their quota, people of dual nationality, including British citzenship, whether recruited in the United Kingdom or abroad; and if he will make a statement.

The conditions of the work permit scheme apply to all foreign nationals who are subject to immigration control, with the exception of certain categories as set out in paragraphs 31 and 33 of the statement of changes in immigration rules, laid before Parliament on 9 February 1983 under section 3(2) of the Immigration Act 1971. It is incorrect to say that Her Majesty's Government have a policy whereby foreign companies are permitted to recruit a specified number of foreign nationals without work permits. People who have British citizenship, even if dual nationals, have the right of abode here and do not require a work permit.

Availability For Work Test

asked the Paymaster General if he is satisfied with the operation of the availability for work test; and if he will make a statement.

[pursuant to his reply, 12 January 1987]: The procedural changes which I announced on 28 October 1986 and which are based on experiments conducted last summer are now operating in the majority of our benefit offices.The procedures are designed to meet criticism from the Public Accounts Committee of shortcomings in checking on the longstanding requirement that benefit should he paid only to unemployed claimants who are available for work.It is too soon to assess the effectiveness of the new procedures in determining benefit entitlement.

Peckham (Task Force)

asked the Paymaster General (1) how many new jobs have been created by the task force initiative in Peckham;(2) how many of the new jobs created by the task force in Peckham have been filled by people resident in Peckham;(3) how many more jobs he expects to be created as a direct result of the task force initiative in Peckham;(4) how much of the money allocated to the task force initiative in Peckham has already been spent;(5) what is the cost per job of each job created by the task force initiative in Peckham;(6) what are the new jobs created by the task force initiative in Peckham.

[pursuant to his reply, 12 January 1987, c. 54–55]: It is not possible to provide specific answers to all the hon. Member's questions because they require a detailed evaluation of the inner cities initiative which has no yet been carried out. The initiative was announced in February 1986 and the north Peckham task force was not in place with its small office and staff until 8 May 1986. The north Peckham task force has made considerable progress towards its objectives including job creation and, improving the employability of local residents.The task force has established contacts and is working with a wide variety of local community organisations, the local authority and with the private sector. A plan has been drawn up as a framework for action in tackling the problems of the area. The plan includes a number of projects designed to increase employment and improve the employability of local people, which are being worked up as a matter of priority. These include:

  • (a) the establishment, in co-operation with a major clearing bank, of a grant and loan scheme for local small businesses;
  • (b) a scheme in conjunction with the MSC and the Industrial Society to give young people access to enterprise training and on-going encouragement and support with a view to encouraging self employment;
  • (c) creating local jobs through a scheme tackling home security problems on local council estates. A first project now under way is the improvement of lighting and external security on the north Peckham estate;
  • (d) the establishment of a shop run as a co-operative by the local community on the Gloucester grove estate;
  • (e) creation of workshop start-up units from disused garages on a local estate;
  • (f) support for provisions of customised employer-based training for 100 local people;
  • (g) improvements to two adult education institute branches to enable training capacity to be in-creased (benefiting an additional 20 north Peckham residents), and a training course for 15 disadvantaged local residents to be recommenced.
  • A substantial number of other projects are at various stages of development. The task force is also working closely with the private sector, other Government Departments and statutory and voluntary agencies in the area to unlock all available resources and to ensure that they are targeted to maximum effect. We are attaching high priority to the introduction of community programme work experience opportunities to the people of north Peckham which has in the past been severely limited by local political opposition.

    The task force was instrumental in securing a grant of £850,000 from the Department of the Environment's estates action for a crime prevention and environmental improvement package for the Gloucester grove estate.

    A secondee from the voluntary sector has just joined the task force to work with unemployed alienated young people.

    No specific allocation of funds to individual task forces has been made. They are intended to improve the targeting of all Government expenditure in their areas. Total central Government expenditure in the north Peckham area was estimated to be £6·4 million in 1985–86. To date some £72,000 has been committed to projects in the north Peckham task force area out of specific inner city initiative funds. Other projects under development, including those described above, are expected to require resources out of the same specific funds totalling some £600,000.

    National Finance

    Mortgage Interest Relief

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many taxpayers who are not married claim mortgage interest relief on the same property; and what is the additional cost to the Exchequer of the mortgage interest relief enjoyed by the second person in all such cases.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the reply which I gave to the hon. Member for Woolwich (Mr. Cartwright) on 8 December 1986, at column 85.

    Hansard Press

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) when new technology will be introduced at the Official Report Press;(2) if retraining will be available for those copyreaders at the Official Report Press whose jobs will be affected by the introduction of new technology.

    New technology, which is regarded in the printing industry as referring to computer-assisted typesetting and associated techniques, was introduced at the Official Report Press (Hansard Press) in January 1981.

    Any further change which could affect jobs, including those of copyreaders, will be discussed with representatives of the trades unions involved. Such discussions would include the scope for retraining.

    European Commission

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) by what means he proposes to inform the House of a payment of own resources made in advance at the demand of the European Commission, following the decision of the European Court of Justice in case 93/85; and whether the House will be given the opportunity of expressing an opinion on the circumstances which have given rise to the need for the advancing of payments before the transfer is made;(2) whether, since the decision of the European Court of Justice in case 93/85 is contrary to the Government's contention that advance payments of own resources to the European Commission require specific parliamentary approval, the United Kingdom intends to propose in the Council of Ministers the amendment or annulment of articles 10 and 11 of Council regulation 1891/77, so far as they involve an absolute liability to make such payments and impose a penalty for late compliance;(3) what estimate he had made of the extent to which current cash flow problems of the Community are likely to give rise to demands for advanced payments of own resources in the present European Community budgetary year.

    Incomes

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the increase in the average real net incomes of the working population since May 1979.

    Computer Contracts

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will make it his policy to exclude from consideration for Government computer contracts those firms which have been found guilty of infringing immigration laws.

    In order to secure value for money for the taxpayer the Government seek to ensure that the firms with which they deal are capable of fulfilling their commitments. Judgment in this context would naturally embrace proven breaches of the law.

    European Community (Funds)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will list the payments received from the European Community from each of the structural funds and from the European steel and coal Fund from 1975 for each year for (a) the United Kingdom and (b) Scotland; and if he will provide a detailed breakdown of the money received by Scotland from the European social fund.

    Information concerning Community receipts by territorial areas within the United Kingdom, and individual projects and programmes benefiting from these receipts, is not held centrally and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost. A breakdown of United Kingdom receipts by receiving Departments (including the Scottish Office) and by type of expenditure (for example, the regional development and social funds) is contained in table 3.3.3 of the public expenditure White Paper published on 14 January (Command 56-II, page 71). Information on total United Kingdom receipts from the structural funds is also contained in table 3.3.2 of the White Paper (page 70).

    European Commission Budget

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will list the most up-to-date figures for the United Kingdom contribution to the European Economic Commission budget in each year from 1975 (a) at current prices and (b) at 1986 prices.

    Departmental Computer Network

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the value of the contract being put out to tender for the Government data network; which firms have tendered for the contract; and which firms have been short-listed.

    The Government data network project is now at the specification stage.A statement of service requirement will be issued shortly to five consortia:

    • Cable and Wireleess with ICL;
    • Computer Sciences Corporation (CSC) with British Telecom;
    • Electronic Data Services (EDS) with Northern Telecom;
    • Plessey with CAP;
    • Racal Milgo with SCICON.

    The consortia have a month to produce proposals. These will be valuated and a shortlist produced. Further and more technical discussions will be necessary to agree memoranda of agreement before tendering and award of contract, which is targeted for September this year.

    The early stage of this project and the nature of the procurement leading to a service contract means that a contract value cannot yet be given.

    Invisible Earnings

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what were the actual and the proportionate contributions to the United Kingdom's invisible earnings of the consulting engineering profession during the course of the last financial year.

    Social Services

    Alcohol (Health Warnings)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he has any plans to introduce mandatory health warning labels on all alcohol containers;(2) if he has any plans to introduce mandatory signs or posters in premises where intoxicating liquor is sold concerning the health risks involved in drinking.

    We have no plans to do so. It is not the use but the misuse of alcohol which causes harm.

    Severe Weather Payments

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will direct local offices of his Department to publish weekly in local newspapers a notice to advise potential claimants of the additional heating allowance whether the week is a qualifying week or not a qualifying week.

    Local offices have been directed to publish advertisements in their local newspapers this week inviting potential claimants to apply for extra help with their heating costs. The situation will be reviewed next week.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list, for the week 5 January to 11 January, the average daily temperatures for each weather station designated for measuring temperatures for exceptionally severe weather payments; and what was the lowest recorded temperature for each station during that week.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what steps he intends to take to improve the arrangements for payment of severe weather assistance in Wales.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will now introduce emergency regulations to give additional severe weather heating allowance to the elderly and people on low incomes.

    I refer the hon. Members to my reply to the hon. Member for Bradford, West (Mr. Madden) on 13 January, at column 132.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what plans he has to publicise the new severe weather payments; on what date the new leaflet will be published and where the new leaflet will be placed for public information.

    [pursuant to his reply, 13 January 1987]: Details of the new arrangements for extra help with heating costs because of exceptionally cold weather are contained in leaflets and posters which are being distributed to the Department's local offices this week.In accordance with the reply which I gave to the Member for Bradford, West (Mr. Madden) on 13 January at column 132, these leaflets and posters will be made available through appropriate outlets. These may include unemployment benefit offices, job centres, health centres, GPs' surgeries, community and religious centres, social services departments, housing benefit offices, advice bureaux, libraries, welfare organisations, gas and electricity showrooms and in more isolated areas, supermarkets and other shops. In addition, advertisements, including a claim form, will appear in national and local newspapers and freesheets and publicity will be sought on local radio and television.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will give a list of the weather stations not included in the list of those used for calculating severe weather payments, indicating which of them had (a) minimum night temperatures of minus 1·5 deg or below on any night, (b) daily mean temperatures of minus 1·5 deg or below and (c) weekly mean temperatures of minus 1·5 deg or below for the week 5 January to 11 January inclusive.

    [pursuant to his reply, 13 January 1987]: The information requested is not provided to the Department. There are over 500 weather stations which supply this information to the Meotorological Office, but I understand there is often a considerable delay, up to about six weeks, in doing so.

    Young People In Care

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish such details as are available to him on the number of young people in care, or subject to care orders, who have absconded in each local authority area in each of the past three years and to date; and if he will make a statement.

    The numbers of children and young people in care who, on 31 March, had absconded for more than one week from residential accommodation are given in the table for 1982, 1983 and 1984 for each local authority.

    Children and young people in care who absconded from residential accommodation by local authority at 31 March, 1982 to 1984
    198219831984
    Cleveland001
    Cumbria000
    Durham276
    Northumberland101
    Gateshead000
    Newcastle upon Tyne132
    North Tyneside210
    South Tyneside010
    Sunderland302
    Humberside424
    North Yorkshire201
    Barnsley000
    Doncaster021
    Rotherham000
    Sheffield241
    Bradford522
    Calderdale201
    Kirklees253
    Leeds010
    Wakefield000
    Cheshire913
    Lancashire774
    Bolton000
    Bury431
    Manchester252518
    Oldham351
    Rochdale310
    Salford523
    Stockport2120
    Tameside2111
    Trafford350
    Wigan112
    Knowsley002
    Liverpool242621
    Sefton771
    St. Helens000
    Wirral341
    Hereford and Worcester001
    Shropshire000
    Staffordshire000
    Warwickshire000
    Birmingham614848
    Coventry1128

    1982

    1983

    1984

    Dudley113
    Sandwell000
    Solihull000
    Walsall533
    Wolverhampton322
    Derbyshire000
    Leicestershire122
    Lincolnshire000
    Northamptonshire101
    Nottinghamshire542
    Bedfordshire431
    Berkshire547
    Buckinghamshire122
    Cambridgeshire423
    Essex964
    Hertfordshire020
    Norfolk011
    Oxfordshire100
    Suffolk000
    Camden

    11

    11
    Greenwich234
    Hackney542
    Hammersmith145
    Islington

    17

    17

    17

    Kensington000
    Lambeth91615
    Lewisham1413
    Southwark10311
    Tower Hamlets

    12

    12

    12

    Wandsworth

    13

    13

    4
    Westminster000
    City of London000
    Barking232
    Barnet141
    Bexley110
    Brent411
    Bromley010
    Croydon031
    Ealing001
    Enfield523
    Haringey252
    Harrow000
    Havering011
    Hillingdon341
    Hounslow240
    Kingston-upon-Thames100
    Merton100
    Newham531
    Redbridge000
    Richmond-upon-Thames120
    Sutton000
    Waltham Forest330
    Dorset100
    Hampshire335
    Isle of Wight000
    Kent

    11

    12
    Surrey274
    East Sussex052
    West Sussex001
    Wiltshire103
    Avon121010
    Cornwall000
    Devon010
    Gloucestershire001
    Somerset000
    ENGLAND341308267

    1Estimated from information for earlier years.

    Abortions

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish the number of abortions carried out in each health authority area for each of the past five years and to date; and if he will make a statement.

    The numbers of legal abortions to women resident in each regional and each district health authority in England and Wales are published in table 24 of "Abortion Statistics, series AB Nos. 8–12", copies of which are in the Library.Figures on the numbers of legal abortions performed in Wales and in each regional health authority in England to women resident in the United Kingdom are shown in table 20 of the same publications. Statistics on the number of legal abortions carried out in each district health authority are not published for reasons of maintaining confidentiality.

    Surrogate Motherhood (Abuses)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he has received any further representations concerning possible abuses of the Surrogacy Arrangements Act by surrogate motherhood agencies; and if he will make a statement.

    None since I replied to my hon. Friend's question on 21 October 1986, at column 860.The consultation document "Legislation on Human Infertility Services and Embryo Research" invites views, inter alia, on extending restrictions on the operation of surrogacy agencies.

    Hospitals (Coal)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what experiments are being conducted within the National Health Service in the use of imported coal for heating hospitals; and what guidance his Department has issued to health authorities on this subject;(2) if he will make it his policy that the National Health Service should purchase only British coal for use in hospitals.

    Member's Correspondence

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when the hon. Member for Rugby and Kenilworth may expect to receive a definitive reply to his letter of 24 October which refers to the Motor and Cycle Trades Benevolent Fund.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) when the hon. Member for Rugby and Kenilworth may expect to receive a reply to his letters of 31 October and 11 December which refer to Mr. N. Smith of Rugby;(2) when the hon. Member for Rugby and Kenilworth may expect to receive a reply to his letters of 12 November and 11 December 1986 which refer to his constituent Mrs. Sheila Denney;(3) when the hon. Member for Rugby and Kenilworth may expect to receive a reply to his letter dated 11 November which refers to his constituent Mr. Thomas O'Carroll.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when the hon. Member for Rugby and Kenilworth may expect to receive a reply to his letters of 30 October and 11 December 1986 which refer to Mrs. Hopkinson of Rugby.

    Public Expenditure

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what estimate he now makes of the cumulative effect on public expenditure (a) in aggregate and (b) broken down by component of changes in social security each year since 1979.

    Information on the increase in public expenditure on social security since 1979–80 is set out in successive public expenditure White Papers. Information for 1979–80 is given in table 3.12 of "the Government's Expenditure Plans 1986–87 to 1987–88" (Cmnd. 9428) and similar information for 1980–81 is contained in table 3.15 of "The Government's Expenditure Plans 1986–87 to 1988–89" (Cmnd. 9702). For 1981–82 and succeeding years, the information can be found in table 3.15 of "The Government's Expenditure Plans 1987–88 to 1989–90" (Cmnd. 56).

    Medical Students

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many students entered medical school in the United Kingdom in each of the last seven years; and what information he has on comparable figures in France, West Germany and Italy.

    The numbers of students entering medical school in the United Kingdom in each of the past seven years are as follows:

    Academic YearMedical School intake
    1980–814,010
    1981–824,072
    1982–834,154
    1983–844,108
    1984–854,125
    1985–864,093
    1986–8714,137
    1Provisional.
    Comparable figures are not readily available for the other countries.

    Health Expenditure

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what are the latest figures available for the percentage of gross domestic product spent on health, health expenditure per head of population, number of practising doctors per 100,000 of the population and hospital beds per 1,000 population for the United Kingdom; and what information is available on comparable figures in Germany, France, the Netherlands, Denmark, Belgium, Italy, Luxembourg, Ireland, Greece, Spain, Portugal, and the EEC on average, the United States of America and Sweden.

    I shall let the hon. Member have the information that is available as soon as possible.

    Health Statistics

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what are the latest figures on life expectancy, infant mortality rates, and numbers on sickness benefit as a percentage of working population in the United Kingdom; and what information is available on comparable figures in West Germany, France, Italy, the Netherlands, Denmark, Belgium, and the European Economic Community average.

    I shall let the hon. Member have the information that is available as soon as possible.

    Aids

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will consider compensation for the families of haemophiliacs who die as a result of contracting the AIDS virus through blood transfusions; and whether he will make a statement.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will take steps to compensate those haemophiliacs who have been infected with AIDS by Factor VIII brought from the United States of America.

    [pursuant to his reply, 12 January 1987]: There is no state compensation scheme for those who, like haemophiliacs infected with the AIDS virus, unfortunately suffer adverse effects from their medical treatment. Compensation may be awarded by the courts in cases where negligence has been proved. Compensation for the families of haemophiliacs who die from AIDS infection may similarly be awarded by the courts.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will estimate the number of haemophiliacs currently infected with the AIDS virus through blood transfusions.

    I refer my hon. Friend to my reply to the hon. Member for Holborn and St. Pancras (Mr. Dobson) on 25 November 1986, at columns 199–200. These are the most recent figures available for haemophiliacs who have been found to be HIV antibody positive.The transmission of HIV to haemophiliacs was through the use of blood products in their treatment and not through blood transfusion. Blood products used by haemophiliacs are now heat treated to inactivate HIV.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services on what date he advised health authorities, when deciding on the disposal of land or buildings, to take into account any plans for the development of services for those suffering from AIDS.

    The requirement for health authorities to take into account other health service needs and developments before disposing of properties is a standing one which has been included in the National Health Service "Handbook on Land Transactions" since 1977.

    Hospital Waiting Lists

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he proposes to reply to the three questions from the hon. Member for Holborn and St. Pancras about hospital waiting lists, due for answer on 10 December 1986.

    Diabetics

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make disposable needles and syringes available to diabetics.

    If disposable needles and syringes are considered necessary for a patient's treatment, they may be supplied through the hospital service. The possibility of making them available on general practitioners' prescription is under review.

    Cystic Fibrosis

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will exempt from prescription charges adults suffering from cystic fibrosis.

    Drug Users (Services)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services over what period his Department has allocated £17·1 million under central funding to improve services to drug users.

    The first grants under the central funding initiative for the development of local services for drug misusers were approved in late 1983. The Department is now determining the last few applications for grants. In the majority of cases grants are made for a period of three years.

    Departmental Circulars

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list his Department's obsolete circulars which have been cancelled, indicating in each case the date it was first issued, whether the circular has been succeeded by another more up to date one, or whether the circumstances to which it applied no longer pertain.

    I have today placed in the Library a list of the 531 circulars which have been cancelled. The date of issue is apparent in every case from the reference number, except for the HSC(IS) series, which was published in 1974 and 1975. The cancellation of these circulars does not necessarily imply any change in policy, although many of them gave specific time-related guidance which is now out of date. All future circulars will contain a review date on which they will either be reviewed or cancelled. I have also placed in the Library a list of the 398 circulars which are still extant.

    Pensioners

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish a table providing the latest available figures for the number of retirement pensioners resident in each parliamentary constituency in the United Kingdom.

    Information about retirement pensioners can be provided for Great Britain or for England, Scotland and Wales separately, but not for smaller areas of the country.

    Hypothermia

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many pensioners in Hull died of hypothermia and co-related illnesses indicating which in the months November 1985 to April 1986.

    There were five deaths to pensioners registered in the Hull registration sub-district during that period, with any mention of hypothermia on the death certificate. This is irrespective of whether hypothermia did or did not appear as an underlying cause. (Pensioners are defined as males aged 65 years and over and females aged 60 years and over). From the material available it is not possible to identify deaths from co-related diseases.

    Local Offices

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list all the social security offices which have closed for either a whole day or days, or parts of a day or days, each month in the last year, in each case indicating the cause.

    Hospitals (Computers)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what representations he has received as to the adequacy of the budgets for the computer facilities which are being required in newly developing hospitals.

    None that appear to relate to what my hon. Friend seems to have in mind. The allocation of resources for such a purpose would in any case be a matter for the district and regional health authorities concerned.

    Hospital Parking (Solihull)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he is satisfied with the planned levels of car parking facilities at the new Solihull district general hospital.

    Car parking facilities are being provided within the Department's recommended guidance contained in DHSS circular DS 97/71, a copy of which is available in the Library.

    Breast Cancer

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the actions he has taken since 24 December 1985 to bring into operation breast cancer screening systems nationwide.

    The Government will be making an announcement on breast cancer screening in the near future.

    Benefits

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his estimate of the numbers and proportion of unemployed persons who are not in receipt of any social security benefit.

    At 14 August 1986 the total number of unemployed claimants was 3,168,100. Of these 520,548 (16·43 per cent.) were not in receipt of unemployment benefit or supplementary benefit (though some may have had other benefits, for example, child benefit).

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    Alternative Land Use

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what are his Department's estimates of the number of acres of land currently used for agriculture which will no longer be used for that purpose in each of the next three years; and if he will make a statement as to the change of use which he envisages, in a percentage breakdown.

    The total area of agricultural land, including rough grazing, as recorded by agricultural censuses, has been tending to decline for many years as land as been utilised for forestry, housing, roads and other purposes. I have no detailed estimates of the precise pattern of change for each of the next three years as this will depend on many factors, including the demand for land for these non-agricultural purposes.

    Agricultural Policy

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will publish a Green Paper setting out the options open to Her Majesty's Government, both within and outside the current regulations determining the common agricultural policy of the European Economic Community, in their strategic policy for agriculture within the United Kingdom, with particular reference to policies that (a) encourage good husbandry, (b) promote levels of employment and economic activity in rural areas and (c) conserve the natural and man-made rural environment, and enhance good management of uplands and the national parks.

    I already seek to ensure that the public are fully aware of the options open to the Community and to the United Kingdom as a member of the Community.

    Aircraft Noise

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will list the positions and functions of those members of staff of his Department who are contributing to the work of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation committee on the challenges of modern society pilot study on aircraft noise in a modern society.

    Pelagic Fisheries

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether the Fisheries Ministers have yet completed their review of the restrictive licensing arrangements in respect of the pelagic fisheries; and whether he will make a statement.

    Fisheries Ministers have given thorough and detailed consideration to the restrictive licensing arrangements for the main mackerel and herring fisheries in the light of the current and prospective situation in the fisheries and of the views submitted by fishing industry organisations in response to a consultative paper issued by the Fisheries Departments in October 1985. We have reached the following conclusions.The quota management difficulties experienced prior to the introduction in July 1980 of restrictive licensing arrangements for purse seiners and freezer trawlers have substantially eased reflecting both the overall reduction in the number of such vessels in the United Kingdom fleet and an increase in the available catching opportunities. Since 1980, the number of purse seine vessels in the pelagic fleet has declined from 59 to 50, whereas all 26 freezer trawlers, then licensed to fish for pelagic species, have left the fleet. For the last five years, not all the quotas available to the United Kingdom for mackerel and herring have been fully taken up; in 1986 it is estimated that, despite the operations of the freezer trawlers provisionally licensed in 1985, the United Kingdom's main pelagic quotas were 15 per cent. under utilised in total. These quotas have now been further increased for 1987. Consequently, while we believe that the special licensing restrictions on purse seiners and freezer trawlers in the pelagic fisheries should, given the catching power of such vessels, continue for the time being over and above the more general system of pressure stock licensing introduced in 1984, we have concluded that it would now be right to make certain modifications in their detailed application.First, we have decided that in future pelagic licences for purse seiners and freezer trawlers should be interchangeable, thus allowing the balance of the fleet to adjust itself more effectively over the longer term to the situation in the fisheries and the needs of the market. However, given the strong evidence that a limited increase in catching capacity could lead to a fuller uptake of the quotas without undermining the viability of the existing fleet, and the very sharp decline since 1980 in the number of freezer trawlers compared with the change in the number of purse seiners, we have also decided to make available straight away a total of five new pelagic licences for such vessels. Two of these will be assigned to the two freezer trawlers which have been operating in the fisheries since 1985 on a provisional basis. Decisions on the three further freezer licences will be taken following consideration of all applications for such licences received by the Fisheries Departments before 1 March 1987.Finally, the number of licences available for purse seiners and freezer trawlers for the pelagic fisheries will be reviewed annually to take account of any changes in the level of quotas available as well as their utilisation.

    Defence

    Airborne Warning And Control System

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence which version of the Boeing airborne warning and control system aircraft has been ordered for the Royal Air Force.

    The E-3A aircraft to meet the Royal Air Force's airborne early warning requirement will be based upon the latest production standard.

    Aircraft Noise

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will list the positions and functions of those members of staff of his Department who are contributing to the work of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation committee on the challenges of modern society pilot study on aircraft noise in a modern society.

    My Department contributes representatives to each of the four sub-groups of the pilot study. In addition to the central staff divisions concerned, representratives attend from Royal Aircraft Establishment, Pyestock, the RAF Institute Community and Occupational Medicine and RAF Strike Command.

    Military Data Network

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the value of the contract for the new proposed military data network; which firms have submitted bids; and which firms have been shortlisted.

    Anthrax

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if parts of the United Kingdom other than Gruinard were used for testing anthrax in connection with weapon research.

    Radiation

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence, pursuant to his reply of 8 December, Official Report, column 88, if he will (a) outline marine monitoring for radiation undertaken by his Department and (b) give the precise co-ordinates for the position of the Russian submarine sunk off the Scillies in 1970.

    My Department conducts marine environmental monitoring at Royal Navy bases in the United Kingdom, at the Holy Loch and at RN bases abroad under British jurisdiction. As stated in my reply to the hon. Member on 8 December, at column 88, my Department has not conducted any checks for radiation leaks from the Soviet submarine that sank off the Scilly Isles in 1970. I understand that the Soviet submarine sank in the vicinity of 48° 30' N, 19° 45' W.

    Trident

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether, pursuant to his reply to the hon. Member for Kingston upon Hull, North, Official Report, 12 January, the figure of £2,750 million contractually committed to Trident includes the £820 million already spent on Trident; and if he will make a statement.

    Yes. The figure of £2,750 million committed to Trident includes the £820 million already spent.

    Drops

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether the selected demountable rack offloading and pick-up system MMLC truck designs proposed by Foden and Scammell in 1982 provided sufficient engine power to pull the fully laden LMLC trailer; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 16 December 1986, c. 504]: The Foden and Scammell original proposals provided a number of engine options and powers allowing a selection fully adequate for the DROPS vehicle and trailer configuration envisaged.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence when the need for the demountable rack offloading and pickup system was first formally identified by his Department; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 16 December 1986, c. 504]: The DROPS requirement was first formally endorsed in August 1982.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence when funds for the demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system were first put into his Department's budgeted expenditure; and if he will make a statement.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what were the shortcomings identified by his Department in the Boughton's 1982 demountable rack offloading and pick-up system proposal; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 16 December 1986, c. 504]: The Boughton system proposals in 1982–83 though competent in many respects fell short of those of its competitors both technically and economically. It would not be normal practice to disclose details of tender offers and assessments. The firm was afforded the opportunity of constructive debriefing after the competition.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what requirements on stacking flatracks was included in the 1985 specification against which the definitive demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system equipment was tendered; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 16 December 1986, c. 504]: The 1985 specification required that empty flatracks could be stacked for storage and transit.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what part the issue of flatrack stacking played in Multilift's 1982 demountable rack off-loading pick-up system proposal; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 16 December 1986, c.. 504]: Flatrack stacking was fully considered as requested in the statement of requirements in all main contractor proposals to which Multilift contributed.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) what weight was given by the demountable rack off-loading pick-up system selection team to stackability of flatracks; and if he will make a statement;(2) to what extent the question of stacking was a criterion in the selection of demountable rack off-loading pick-up system; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 16 December 1986, c. 504]: Flatrack stacking was addressed in the statement of requirements and was thus an element fully considered in the assessment along with the many other factors.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) what assessment was made by the 1982 demountable rack off-loading pick-up system selection team of the implications of the stacking of loaded flatracks for the size of field storage areas; and if he will make a statement;(2) what assessment was made by his Department in 1980 of the implications of the stacking of loaded flatracks for the space required in storage areas; and if he will make a statement.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will publish details of Boughton's shortcomings in its presentation for the demountable rack off-loading pick-up system contract; and if he will make37a statement.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) if those companies involved in 1982 provided drawings of their proposed load handling systems drawn onto the prime contractor's chassis under consideration for the demountable rack off-loading pick-up system; and if he will make a statement;(2) what was the nature of such drawings as Multilift produced via the main contractors in 1982 in connection with the demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 16 December c. 504]: All companies' submissions for the 1982 DROPS competition provided adequate drawings or other supporting detail covering the widest field of vehicle-load handling system combinations.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what representations were received from any demountable rack off-loading pick-up system prime contractors in 1982 on Multilift's presentation and management; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 16 December 1986, c. 504]: Multilift load-handling systems featured prominently in a number of main contractor submissions including those of the main contractors finally selected. I cannot, of course, discuss details of particular tender or contract submissions.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what allocations were introduced into the equipment produced for trials in 1984 after its feasibility study response in 1982; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 16 December 1986, c. 504]: The equipment furnished for the Department's DROPS traps in 1984 was based upon proposals of the selected competing main contractors. The final specification took up certain options offered and other changes ordered by the Department affecting engine power (340 bhp), adoption of automatic transmission and hydraulic power take-off. "Live" power take-off was the only feature not offered by companies other than Boughton's. Its specification had no significant cost implications.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the weight (a) originally estimated by Multilift for its Mk II flat flatrack system and (b) of the equipment built; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 16 December 1986, c. 504]: The difference was 7·5 per cent.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence when the decision was taken by his Department that the requirement for low mobility demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system was to be provided by the use of a trailer; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 16 December 1986, c. 504]: The use of a trailer in this role was envisaged in the DROPS requirement first formally approved in 1982.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what were the main conclusions of the project carried out by his Department into how the low mobility transport role after the introduction of demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system would he carried out; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 16 December 1986, c. 504]: I am not clear to which project my right hon. Friend is referring.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence to what degree of detail the selected main contractors and subcontractors proposed designs and analysis of a trailer for demountable rack off-load and pick-up system LMLC; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 16 December 1986, c. 504]: The selected main contractors' proposals fully met the Department's essential assessment needs in these regards.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if Boughton's put forward detailed proposals for, and recommendations on, a trailer as the preferred solution for demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system LMLC; and if he will make a statement.

    asked the Secretary of Stale for Defence whether the trailers proposed by the selected main contractors and subcontractors met the stated requirement for LMLC demountable racking off-loading and pick-up system in respect of one-man operation and maximum loading; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 16 December 1986, c. 504]: Trailers proposed by the selected main contractors were judged adequate in both respects and for the subsequent trials.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what assessment was made by his Department in reviewing the demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system feasibility study in 1983 of the implications for road traffic law of trailer-truck combinations selected to fulfil the low mobility demountable rack off-loading and pickup system role on the roads; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 16 December 1986, c. 504]: The Department's competition assessments in 1983 took due account of proposed truck-trailer combinations in the context of the relevant construction and use regulations.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the gross weight of (a) Boughton 1982 proposed demountable rack off-loading and demountable system LMLC truck-trailer combination and (b) the combinations selected; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 16 December 1986, c. 504]: The gross estimated weight of the selected combination is some 3,000 kg more than the weight estimated in Boughton's proposals.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what proposal was made at the time of the demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system submissions in 1982 by the two selected contractors as to the most cost effective way of meeting the stated requirements for the demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 16 December 1986, c. 504]: The proposals made by the selected contractors covered a wide range of solutions and options and I regret I cannot disclose particular details of tender offers.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if those responsible for the demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system selection in 1983 included any officers with previous experience of the demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system trials and development work carried out by his Department; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 780]: The DROPS assessment process took place under the direction of professional procurement staff responsible for the development and procurement of armed services vehicles of all types. They worked in close conjunction with the Army's logistic authorities who commissioned and directed the earlier research and concept trials which established the DROPS requirement.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how the mechanical efficiency of the Boughton demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system equipment criticised by his Department for its higher hydraulic pressures compared with that of other systems selected in preference to it; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 780.]: The Department judged the Boughton system to be inferior in performance to others on a number of technical grounds, including the higher hydraulic pressures mentioned.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence to what factors he attributes the failure of the demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system procurement to meet its in-service date; what effect the non-involvement of his Department's demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system experts in the assessment of proposals had in his regard; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 780.]: There has been no failure. DROPS will enter service in 1989. The original staff requirement of 1982 envisaged a date of late 1988 subject to the results of the considerable feasibility study and other work which still had to be undertaken.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if his Department's team of demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system experts making the 1983 selection were aware of the conclusions of project 226 regarding the use of trailers to provide the low mobility demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system function; and if he will make a statement.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what changes have been made to the equipment specifications proposed in 1982 by the successful demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system competitors; to what extent those changes introduce any features proposed and costed in Boughton's production cost estimates but not costed in the selected competitors' original estimates; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 780.]: The equipment furnished for the Department's DROPS trials in 1984 was based upon proposals of the selected competing main contractors. The final specification took up certain options offered and other changes ordered by the Department affecting engine power (340 bhp), adoption of automatic transmission and hydraulic power take-off. "Live" power take-off was the only feature not offered by companies other than Boughton's. Its specification had no significant cost implications.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if the prices and production cost estimates put forward by Foden and by Scammell in respect of their 1982 demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system equipment proposals were the subject of disclaimers and caveats; if Boughton's prices or production cost estimates were accompanied by any such disclaimers; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 780]: The production cost estimates and associated commercial terms of all firms in the 1982–83 DROPS competition were related to the particular equipment proposals, designs and specifications they offered. It is not the usual practice to disclose detailed tender information provided commercially in confidence.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how the specifications for the MMLC demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system equipments proposed by (a) Foden and (b) Scammell in the 1982 demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system feasibility study response compared with those for the MMLC demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system equipments proposed by Boughton in respect of the engine power, transmission and all features including the number of wheels and axles; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 780]: It is not the usual practice to disclose detailed confidential tender information of this character.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how the price put forward in 1982 by Scammell in respect of Boughton's demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system load handling systems compared with the price put forward by Scammell for Multilift's flat flatrack load handling system, for Multilift's A-frame flatrack load handling system and for Powell Duffryn's A-frame flatrack load handling system; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 780]: I cannot disclose details of particular tender prices.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence when the requirement that the demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system requirement that the vehicle be able to transmit power to the wheels at the same time as operating the hydraulic load handling system a live hydraulic facility was first formally recognised by his Department; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 780]: The Department's decision to adopt live hydraulics in DROPS vehicles was taken in 1985 following its extensive field and engineering trials of this and alternative forms of power take-off.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if, at the time in 1984 when he gave as a reason for the non-selection of the Boughton's demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system equipment that it lacked power to lift the load of 14 tonnes required by the demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system statement of requirement, he was aware of the United States army trial reports stating that the Boughton equipment had regularly picked up 16·5 tonnes without difficulty in the worst of conditions; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 780]: The Department's decisions not to select Boughton came from its assessment of the particular equipment proposals which the firm submitted in the competition in 1982. These assessments were the subject of the then Secretary of State's correspondence with my right hon. Friend in February 1984. They could thus take no account of United States Army trials of other equipment which took place only subsequent to the British Army competition and whose reports were available only later in 1984.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was his Department's assessment, after Boughton proposed the inclusion of live hydraulics in its 1982 demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system submission, of the role of live hydraulics as a deciding factor in the ability of the demountable rack off-loading system to pick up loads sunk in mud; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 780]: Based upon its consideration of all the proposals and solutions offered by industry as well as its own experience the Department's assessment in 1983 was that its trials should cover live hydraulics and alternative forms of power take-off across the full spectrum of operating conditions.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what his Department has told Boughton about the implications of live hydraulics for the cost of demountable rack off-loading and pick-up systems; whether the prices and production cost estimates of any competitive equipments proposed in 1982 without live hydraulics were adjusted for this and other increases in the demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system specification before the demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system selection team compared these prices and prodution cost estimates without Boughton's submission; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 780]: The tender assessment process in 1982–83 took full account of all relevant considerations including differences in detailed specifications and prices offered by all the competing firms. I am not aware of any particular information passed to Messrs. Boughton on live hydraulic costs or other implications.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what criticisms his Department made of Boughton's proposed demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system regarding the hydraulic pressure at which it worked; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 780]: Higher hydraulic pressures are generally considered less desirable on grounds of maintainability, reliability and, in certain instances, safety.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if, in the 1982 statement of requirements for the demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system any requirement was stated indicating either a maximum acceptable hydraulic pressure or a preference for low hydraulic pressures; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 780]: No. These are matters of normal professional engineering judgment.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he is satisfied that his Department's demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system team of experts in 1983 understood the nature of all the offers submitted to it, that it was able to reconcile their drawings, their performance calculations and their written statements; and if he will make a statement.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what engine power was called for in the demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system 1982 statement of requirement; whether Boughtons met that requirement in respect of both its IMMLC and MMLC proposals; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 780]: The original DROPS requirement statement to industry called for minimum engine powers of 10 bhp per tonne and 12 bhp per tonne for the medium and improved mobility vehicles respectively. The Boughton proposals considerably exceeded the requirement in both instances.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if the equipment (a) as proposed in 1982 and (b) as built in 1984 by Fodens and Scammells met the stated minimum power requirements for demountable rack offloading pick-up system IMMLC and MMLC vehicles contained in the 1982 stated requirements; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 780]: Both Foden's and Scammell's proposals and equipment fully met the indicated power requirements in the medium mobility range. In the improved medium range the power requirements were fully satisfied by Scammell: Fodens were slightly below.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what figure has been determined as the minimum power-to-weight requirements for the low mobility trailer combination of demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system to comply with United Kingdom or Federal German legislation or Army mobility requirements; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 780]: No particular figure has been determined: however the Army's DROPS equipment fully meets the requirements of United Kingdom legislation in these regards.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence when Boughton first proposed that the demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system vehicle should have live hydraulics; what proposals were made regarding this facility by Fodens, Scammell Multilift in their 1982 demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system submissions; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 780]: The Boughton 1982 proposals employed live hydraulics: those of other firms provided for alternative solutions.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what evidence he has that British military technology related to the demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system project is being passed to the Soviet Union; and if he will make a statement.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what evidence he has that the parent company of Multilift, recently awarded the demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system contract, Partek of Finland has engaged in work for the military forces of the Soviet Union or any of its Warsaw pact allies; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 782]: None. I understand that, as a matter of policy, Partek does not engage in such work.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what evidence he has that the parent company of Multilift, recently awarded the demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system contract, Partek of Finland has any connection with the Russian civilian truck industry; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 782]: I have no knowledge of any such connection, although I understand that Partek has provided some commercial hydraulic equipment for waste disposal.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the value of the production order for the demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system programme.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 782]: The DROPS production orders so far announced are worth some £220 million.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many firms were shortlisted for competitive trialling of the demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 782]: Initially 11 firms provided main contractor proposals involving over 20 firms as main or subcontractors. Five firms were shortlisted for full main contractor assessment. Two main contractors (Foden Trucks and Scammell Motors) were finally selected to provide main equipments for the subsequent competitive trials, together with Multilift (two systems) and Powell Duffryn (load-handling systems), Marshalls of Cambridge and Multilift (flatracks), and Craven Tasker and Scottorn (trailers).

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if his Department retains any copyright to the Miltilift mark IV demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 782]: The Multilift mark IV system is in essence proprietary. The Department's rights are limited to minor modifications to secure interoperability.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will describe the export licensing controls to which the demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system contract awarded to Multilift, Shrewsbury will be subject; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 782]: Like any other licensable equipment DROPS will require an export licence under the Export of Goods (Control) Order 1985 before it is exported. There would be full consideration of all relevant factors before an export licence was granted.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if the Comptroller and Auditor General has informed him when he expects to complete his investigation into the awarding of the demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system project; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 782]: No. The Comptroller and Auditor General's current study of the DROPS project is part of his regular review of the Department's procurement.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how his Department defines a defence product for the purposes of export control and security classification; and if the Multilift mark IV demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system falls within that definition.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 782]: The Export of Goods (Control) Order 1985 sets out, often in detailed terms, the specification of those goods and materials which require an export licence before they can be exported from this country. The Multilift mark IV DROPS system, although unclassified, requires, under the definitions contained in the order, an export licence.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what specifications formed the basis of the production cost estimates of the successful demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system contenders in 1983 in comparison with those which were the subject of Boughton's production cost estimates; and if he will make a statement.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 780]: The production cost estimates and associated commercial terms of all firms in the 1982–83 DROPS competition were related to the particular equipment proposals, designs and specifications they offered. It is not the usual practice to disclose detailed tender information provided commercially in confidence.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what steps he plans to take to ensure that the technology of the demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system contract is safeguarded for use by the United Kingdom and her allies.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 782]: DROPS technology is wholly conventional in nature and is readily available in many forms throughout the commercial vehicle and load handling system industries. Proprietary rights are safeguarded by their owners within the prevailing legal framework for intellectual property rights. DROPS equipment is subject to export licensing control in the usual way.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence when invitations were first issued for proposals to supply a combined vehicle and load handling system (DROPS).

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what representations he has received from the company, Hearncrest Boughton in connection with allegations concerning intellectual property of the demountable rack off-loading and pick-up system project.

    [pursuant to his reply, 19 December 1986, c. 782]: Hearncrest Boughton has made a number of representations to the Ministry. In October 1985 the company claimed that 17 ideas which it believed to be original to Boughton had been incorporated in the DROPS concept of the trials equipment. To assist in formulating its claims the company was subsequently given special facilities to inspect this equipment but, in March 1986, following a careful examination by the Ministry's own intellectual property experts, Boughton was advised that, on the basis of the information that had been provided by the company, the Ministry did not believe that any unauthorised use would be made of any Boughton original ideas in the DROPS procurement. The reasons for the Ministry's views were fully explained in the correspondence with the chairman of the company, but the company was, nevertheless, given the opportunity to offer additional evidence in support of its claim if it so wished.The company has not so far offered any such additional evidence, although it has been agreed that further discussions between relevant experts will take place as soon as the company is in a position to proceed.