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Written Answers

Volume 215: debated on Monday 7 December 1992

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Written Answers To Questions

Monday 7 December 1992

Lord Chancellor's Department

Equal Opportunities

To ask the Parliamentary Secretary, Lord Chancellor's Department what steps he is taking to ensure an equal representation of women on the Bench.

The Lord Chancellor's policy is to appoint to judicial office those best qualified, regardless of sex, ethnic origin, political affiliation or religion. Without prejudice to this overriding principle, the Lord Chancellor has stressed publicly, and will continue to do so, that he would like to see more female legal practitioners who are suitably qualified appointed to the judiciary. The composition of the judiciary at any one time must inevitably reflect the composition of the legal profession within the relevant categories of age and seniority, but, as the proportion of women at these levels in the profession increases, so this is likely to be reflected on the Bench. Two women have been appointed to the High Court Bench this year and women are being appointed in greater numbers at other levels of the judiciary. The Lord Chancellor has ensured appropriate flexibility, for example related to women who have taken career breaks. He has asked that women candidates be included, wherever possible, in the list of those under consideration for appointment. He has co-operated with the Bar in research into sex equality at the Bar and in the judiciary, and will be studying the resultant findings and recommendations. Women represent 45 per cent. of the lay magistracy and the Lord Chancellor's aim is to achieve equality of sittings between male and female magistrates.

Contract Law

To ask the Parliamentary Secretary, Lord Chancellor's Department what proposals he has to implement the recommendation of Law Commission report No. 174 on privity of contract law and estates; and if he will make a statement.

The Lord Chancellor is actively considering the recommendations of the Law Commission on this subject and hopes to be able to make an announcement about this report in the near future.

Attorney-General

Extradition (Ireland)

31.

To ask the Attorney-General when he last met his Irish counterpart; and what matters were discussed concerning extradition.

The last meeting on this subject took place in Dublin on 21 and 22 July this year. It is not the practice to comment on the detail of our discussions.

Ministerial Responsibilities

32.

To ask the Attorney-General if he will make a statement on the division of his work between his role as Law Officer and his other governmental responsibilities.

As Attorney-General I am the principal legal adviser to the Government. I also act, wholly independently of the Government, to enforce the law on behalf of the general community in the public interest.

Sunday Trading

33.

To ask the Attorney-General what is his current advice to local authorities on the enforcement of the legislation governing Sunday trading.

I informed the House on 11 May in answering questions from the hon. Member for Cardiff, Central (Mr. Jones), at columns 367–68, that local authorities can still issue summonses or seek injunctions. It is for them to consider what action to take in a particular case.

Serious Fraud Office (Staff)

34.

To ask the Attorney-General what is the current number of staff in the Serious Fraud Office; and what productivity targets have been set.

The Serious Fraud Office presently employs 132 permanent staff as well as additional temporary staff to meet the varying demands of its caseload. Ninety-one police officers are on attachment.The main performance target is that the period between the acceptance of a case and its transfer or committal to the Crown court should not exceed 12 months.

Crown Prosecution Service (Vacancies)

35.

To ask the Attorney-General how many vacancies there are in the Crown prosecution service for solicitors.

The Crown prosecution service currently has 159 vacancies for lawyers out of a total requirement of 2,256

Chancellor's Tenant

To ask the Attorney-General if he will make a statement on the application of paragraph 25 of "Questions of Procedure for Ministers" to the civil case involving the Chancellor of the Exchequer; and when Law Officers were informed of the case.

My right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer has already informed the hon. Member for Dunfermline, East (Mr. Brown) in a letter of 30 November which has been placed in the Library, of his approach to my predecessor.

National Heritage

Bbc (Restructuring)

10.

To ask the Secretary of State for National Heritage what assessment he has made of the effect of his proposals to restructure the BBC outlined in the Green Paper on the programme output of the corporation.

Our discussion document set out options, but we cannot reach decisions about the BBC's future structure until we are clearer about the services it is to provide.

Football Stadiums

11.

To ask the Secretary of State for National Heritage what representations he has received regarding the implementation of the Taylor report; and if he will make a statement.

My predecessor announced the outcome of the Government's review of its all-seater policy in July. Since then, I have received several letters from hon. Members and from members of the public, and on 26 November my hon. Friend the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State met bodies representing football supporters to hear their views. I have no plans to relax the all-seater requirement further.

Sports Clubs (Rating)

12.

To ask the Secretary of State for National Heritage if he will make it his policy to introduce mandatory rate relief for non-profit-making sports clubs.

No. The present arrangement providing for local authority discretion means that each case can be considered on its merits.

Wootton Creek

13.

To ask the Secretary of State for National Heritage if he will make a statement on the discoveries made in Wootton Creek as a result of funding by his Department.

The Wootton survey project is still in its early stages, but it is already demonstrating the existence of important prehistoric and later remains in the inter-tidal zone, relating to the use of the coast by maritime trading communities of the Norman, Saxon and medieval periods.

National Lottery

To ask the Secretary of State for National Heritage what estimate he has made of the effect of a national lottery on the revenue raised by the Treasury on the football pools industry.

Matters pertaining to Government revenues are properly a matter for the Chancellor of the Exchequer. Estimates of the effects of the national lottery on the level of pools' turnover are subject to a series of hypotheses. I am aware of the understandable concerns on Merseyside and am looking forward to a meeting next week with the Pools Promoters Association.

To ask the Secretary of State for National Heritage what discussions have taken place between himself and the Sports Council on the funds available for sport from a national lottery.

I have not discussed this subject specifically with the Sports Council, although officials have discussed with the council funds likely to be available for sport.

To ask the Secretary of State for National Heritage what is his estimate of the revenue that will he raised for the Exchequer through the introduction of a national lottery.

That will depend upon the size of the national lottery's turnover, and on taxation. The prime purpose of the national lottery is to raise additional funds for the arts, sport, the heritage and charities.

Arts Funding

To ask the Secretary of State for National Heritage what value he attaches to the arm's-length principle of arts funding; and if he will make a statement.

The "arms-length" principle, under which Governments distance themselves from decisions on the funding of individual arts organisations, has been a central part of arts funding since the creation of the Arts Council. I expect to see it continued.

Public Libraries

To ask the Secretary of State for National Heritage how many books were borrowed from public libraries in the latest year for which figures are available.

The total number of books borrowed from public libraries in 1990–91—the last year for which figures are available—was 563 million, of which 475 million of these were lent from public libraries in England, for which I am responsible.

Overseas Visitors

18.

To ask the Secretary of State for National Heritage how many overseas visitors came to the United Kingdom in 1991.

There were an estimated 16·7 million visits to the United Kingdom by overseas residents in 1991. Inward tourism was badly affected by the Gulf war and the recession in the USA. The number of visitors so far this year is well up on 1991, though not quite back to the record levels achieved in 1990.

Rugby League Football

19.

To ask the Secretary of State for National Heritage if he will make a statement on his policy towards rugby league football.

The Government's role is to support and encourage the development of and participation in all sports including rugby league football, with most funding channelled through the Sports Council. In 1991–92, the council provided £160,000 to the British Amateur Rugby League Association—BARLA—and £12,000 to the English Schools Rugby League for the development of the game. In addition, over the past year, the Foundation for Sport and the Arts has provided over £750,000 in grant aid to rugby league clubs for various projects.The Sports Council is also involved in promoting discussions between BARLA and the Rugby Football League about the creation of a unified governing body for rugby league.

Regional Orchestras

20.

To ask the Secretary of State for National Heritage if he will make a statement concerning support for regional orchestras.

Detailed funding decisions are, of course, the responsibility of the Arts Council and regional arts boards. Support for regional orchestras ranges widely, from the more than £6 million the Arts Council gives the major orchestras to smaller-scale grants to local amateur orchestras.

Broadcasting Green Paper

21.

To ask the Secretary of State for National Heritage what representations he has received on his Green Paper on broadcasting.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply that I gave earlier today to the question from my hon. Friend the Member for Bolton, North-East (Mr. Thurnham).

Libraries And Theatres (Greater Manchester)

22.

To ask the Secretary of State for National Heritage if he will visit libraries and theatres in Greater Manchester to discuss resources.

I am always delighted to visit local authorities in connection with my ministerial responsibilities. I have already visited Manchester to see one of its theatres and Chetham's library but would welcome further invitations to libraries and theatres in Greater Manchester. My Department has no direct responsibility for the resources provided for these services, although it must ensure that a comprehensive and efficient library service is provided.

Minority Languages And Cultures

To ask the Secretary of State for National Heritage when he last met his ministerial colleagues representing other member states of the European Community to discuss matters relating to the protection and development of minority and indigenous languages and cultures; and if he will make a statement.

Neither my right hon. Friend nor I have met European Community Culture Ministers specifically to discuss the position of lesser-used languages and minority cultures. I last met my EC ministerial colleagues in Brussels when I chaired the Culture Council on 12 November. Lesser-used languages were not on the agenda of that meeting, although mention of minority cultures was made during discussion of a Community-wide campaign to raise public awareness of books and reading which the Danish presidency intends to launch next year. Lesser-used languages and minority cultures were also mentioned, during wider discussions, when I attended a meeting of Culture Ministers under the aegis of the Council of Europe in Paris on 15 and 16 October.

Fine Arts Heritage

To ask the Secretary of State for National Heritage what proposals he has to strengthen the ability of national institutions to retain the fine arts heritage in the United Kingdom.

My hon. Friend is familiar with the Government's existing policies to encourage the retention of the nation's important works of art. These include the Waverley system of export controls, important tax concessions, and grants to national museums and galleries and to the National Heritage Memorial Fund. These policies continue to assist national museums and galleries to acquire major works by important artists.

Tourist Boards (Finance)

To ask the Secretary of State for National Heritage what is the percentage of finance in local tourist boards provided by (a) the English tourist board, (b) local government and (c) the private sector.

Funding for the regional tourist boards for the 1991–92 financial year was:

Per cent.
(a) English Tourist Board30·5
(b) Local Authorities8·5
(c) Private Sector61·0

Windsor Castle (Fire)

To ask the Secretary of State for National Heritage if he will make a statement on the cost of repairs at Windsor castle.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave earlier today to the question from the hon. Member for Bolsover (Mr. Skinner).

To ask the Secretary of State for National Heritage what representations the Government received from the Fire Prevention Association concerning the protection of the national heritage from fire; and what subsequent action was taken in respect of Windsor castle.

[holding answer 3 December 1992]: In October 1991 the Fire Protection Association published a report, "Heritage under Fire", on fire safety in historic buildings. The report was published on behalf of the United Kingdom working party on fire safety in historic buildings, on which the Government and English Heritage were represented. No specific subsequent action was taken in respect of Windsor castle, as a comprehensive programme of fire prevention measures had already been set in hand at the castle.

To ask the Secretary of State for National Heritage what contributions he estimates will be forthcoming for the restoration of Windsor castle from (a) the private sector, (b) insurance companies and (c) sources other than public funds.

[holding answer 27 November 1992]: It is not possible to make any such estimates at the present time.

Royal Palaces

To ask the Secretary of State for National Heritage what action the Historic Royal Palaces Agency takes to train and retain craftsmen with skills necessary for the restoration of royal palaces.

The Historic Royal Palaces Agency does not employ its own craftsmen. The agency's experience is that craftsmen of the highest quality continue to be available in private firms.

To ask the Secretary of State for National Heritage if he will list those royal palaces that have sprinkler systems installed as a fire precaution.

[holding answer 3 December 1992]: Sprinkler systems have not been installed as a fire precaution at any of the royal palaces.

To ask the Secretary of State for National Heritage if he will arrange for full fire safety inspections at all royal residences in receipt of public funds.

[holding answer 27 November 1992]:: Fire safety inspections are made regularly at each of the occupied royal palaces.

To ask the Secretary of State for National Heritage what has been the total cost to public funds arising from the upkeep of each of the royal residences in each of the last three financial years.

[holding answer 27 November 1992]:: The resources provided for the maintenance of each of the royal residences over the last three years is as follows:

£ million
1989–901990–911991–92
Windsor Castle7·19·89·3
Buckingham Palace3·01·55·2
St. James's Palace0·81·32·5
Kensington Palace1·10·30·7

Tourism

To ask the Secretary of State for National Heritage what was the total expenditure in England on section 4 grants for tourism-related projects in the last full year for which figures are available.

The expenditure on section 4 grants in England in the 1991–92 financial year was £600,000.

Bbc Archives

To ask the Secretary of State for National Heritage if he will review the restrictive covenants covering all BBC archives when he is considering the terms under which the BBC's charter will be renewed; and if he will consider whether amending legislation is necessary to ensure that the provisions of European Community restraint of trade legislation are observed by any interests seeking to impose restraints on the use of BBC archives.

The BBC's contractual agreements are a matter for the corporation. The use of the BBC's programme archives and other assets, including the relevance of any EC legislation, is an issue for the debate about the corporation's future.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Unesco

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs to which programme activities of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation he intends 'to contribute in the coming year; and if he will make a statement.

There are no plans at present to contribute in the coming year to any programme activities of UNESCO through its regular budget. However, the United Kingdom retains its membership of certain inter-governmental bodies which come under UNESCO auspices. We expect to contribute to the World Heritage Fund, the inter-governmental Oceanographic Commission, and the universal copyright convention in the forthcoming year.

Colombia

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what representations he has made to the Colombian Government about the use of children in coal mines in the Boyaca region.

None. We understand that the Colombian authorities, who are well aware of the concern felt in this country, wish to close illegal mines using child labour.

Hong Kong

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what steps were taken, since April 1992, to discuss the extension of democracy in Hong Kong before 1997 with the Chinese Government in advance of the Governor's published statement.

We have repeatedly told the Chinese side of our wish to see a faster pace of democratisation in Hong Kong by increasing the number of seats in the Legislative Council beyond that envisaged in the Basic Law. But the Chinese position has been that the Basic Law cannot be changed. We and the Governor therefore developed a parallel approach, consistent with the Basic Law. My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs briefed the Chinese Foreign Minister on this approach in New York on 25 September, two weeks before the Governor's speech. The Governor sent a message in parallel to senior Chinese officials in Peking.

Visitors' Visas

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what was the number of appeals in the last 12 months against refusal of visitors' visas to people visiting in order to visit relatives or friends in Birmingham.

The information requested is not centrally recorded and could not be provided except at disproportionate expense.

Kashmir

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what are his foreign policy objectives with regard to Kashmir; and if he will make a statement.

Our policy is to encourage the Governments of India and Pakistan to agree a means of settling their dispute over Kashmir as provided for in the 1972 Simla agreement; to emphasise the importance of a genuine political process in Kashmir in which the aspirations of the population in Kashmir can be accommodated, an improvement on human rights there; and to call for a clear cessation of any support from outside for violence within Kashmir.

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make further representations regarding the Kashmiri people to the Indian Government.

We take every opportunity to discuss the situation in Kashmir with the Indian Government. They are fully aware of our concerns about human rights abuses by security forces there and the need for a genuine political process within Kashmir.

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what assessment he has made of the extent of the freedom of the press in Kashmir.

We are not aware of any restrictions on access to Kashmir by Indian or foreign journalists, or on their reporting on the situation there.

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make it his policy to use opportunities within the United Nations to progress a positive and peaceful solution to the problems of Kashmir.

We do not expect that, given the known positions of India and Pakistan, such opportunities are likely to arise.

Chemical Weapons Convention

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how much notice must be provided by states parties before access must be granted (a)to declared facilities and (b) undeclared facilities under the challenge inspection provisions of article IX of the chemical weapons convention.

Under the challenge inspection provisions of article IX of the chemical weapons convention, access must be permitted no later than 120 hours for undeclared facilities, and 100 hours for declared facilities, after notice of inspection has been provided by states parties.

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what allowances have been made for the retention of disabling agents for riot control purposes under the terms of the chemical weapons convention.

Under the terms of the convention, states parties will be entitled to use toxic chemicals for law enforcement, including domestic riot control purposes, provided that such chemicals are limited to those not listed in the schedules to the convention and which can produce rapidly in humans sensory irritation or disabling physical effects which disappear within a short time following termination of exposure. States parties will undertake not to use riot control agents as a method of warfare.

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what financial and personnel resources will be made available to ensure commercial compliance with the terms of the chemical weapons convention in the United Kingdom; and if custodial sentences may be applied to any individuals in the commercial chemical industry found to be in serious breach of the terms of the chemical weapons convention in the United Kingdom.

Her Majesty's Government will give detailed consideration to issues relating to the implementation of the convention after its signature. The convention will not enter into force before 1995.

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what is Her Majesty's Government's policy towards the transparency of the operation of the chemical weapons convention preparatory commission; and if he will make a statement.

The rules of procedure of the preparatory commission have yet to be drawn up. Her Majesty's Government are therefore not yet in a position to make a firm decision on its policy towards the transparency of the operation of the commission.

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if his Department will publish the draft rules of procedure for the preparatory commission before states-signatories to the chemical weapons convention formally adopt them following the signing of the convention; and if he will make a statement.

The rules of procedure for the preparatory commission have yet to be drawn up. Any decision on whether such rules should be made public before being formally adopted will be for all states involved in drawing them up.

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what resources will be made available to the Scientific Advisory Board of Independent Experts to review the scientific and technological developments that could affect the operation of the chemical weapons convention.

It will be for the conference of states parties of the chemical weapons convention to decide what resources will he made available to the scientific advisory board.

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what consultations will take place between the chemical weapons convention preparatory commission and representatives of the scientific community and chemical industry regarding the establishment of the organisation for the prohibition of chemical weapons.

It will be for the preparatory commission of the chemical weapons convention to decide what consultations it may have with representatives of the scientific community and the chemical industry.

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, pursuant to his answer of 16 November, Official Report, column 47, if the United Kingdom will be an original signatory of the chemical weapons convention.

The United Kingdom fully intends to be an original signatory of the chemical weapons convention.

Iraq

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs (1) on what date Her Majesty's Government last made representations to the United Nations special commission of inspection on Iraq;(2) on what dates Her Majesty's Government have received requests for information and assistance from the United Nations special commission of inspection on Iraq; and on what dates the Government responded to those requests.

The Government have worked closely with the United Nations special commission on Iraq—UNSCOM—since it was set up in April 1991. The United Kingdom mission to the United Nations is in almost daily contact with UNSCOM.

Cocom

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on Her Majesty's Government's present policy towards the co-ordinating committee on multilateral strategic export controls (COCOM), indicating if any changes are in prospect.

As indicated in the answer given by my right hon. Friend the Minister of State to the hon. Member for Newport, West (Mr. Flynn) on 5 June at column 673, the present policy of all countries participating in the co-ordinating committee on multilateral export controls is to provide those proscribed destinations that have embarked on political reform with progressively wider access to COCOM-controlled goods and technology, as they establish effective export controls. To this end, an informal co-operation forum on export controls has been established: its first meeting was held in Paris on 23 and 24 November.

Coffins

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what action he proposes to ensure that coffins used to repatriate, for cremation, the remains of British nationals from Spain, comply with EEC directive 84/360.

I have been asked to reply. There are no requirements in EEC directive 84/360 as to the type or composition of coffins for cremation.

Transport

King's Cross Fire

To ask the Secretary of State for Transport what progress has been made by London Transport in implementing the recommendations of the Fennel report into the King's Cross underground fire.

London Transport has fully implemented 106 out of 127 recommendations addressed to it and has partially completed a further 12. One recommendation was not accepted by LT, but its objective has been achieved through other means. Work on implementing the remainder is progressing well. A copy of London Transport's detailed report on progress up to the end of August has been placed in the Library.

Nuclear Material (Transport)

To ask the Secretary of State for Transport by what modes of transport (a) plutonium, (b) enriched uranium and (c) natural uranium are transported (i) within, (ii) into and (iii) from the United Kingdom; and if he will name in each case the ports used.

By land, sea and air. The consignors choose the mode, and port when needed.

To ask the Secretary of State for Transport if he will provide details of the nature and quantity of irradiated nuclear fuel, plutonium and high-level radioactive waste transported by sea to and from, or by, the United Kingdom in each of the last five years.

To ask the Secretary of State for Transport what representations he has received regarding the air freighting of fresh plutonium-bearing nuclear fuel pins from Germany to Dounreay in Scotland.

To ask the Secretary of State for Transport, (1) pursuant to his answer of 24 November, Official Report, column 561, if he will set out the names of the persons with details of their expertise, who will represent Her Majesty's Government at the International Atomic Energy Agency-International Maritime Organisation-United Nations Environment Programme working group on the transport of irradiated nuclear fuel;(2) pursuant to his answer of 24 November,

Official Report, column 561, if he will name the specialists in the transport of irradiated nuclear fuel who will be representing him at the forthcoming joint International Atomic Energy Authority-International Maritime Organisation-United Nations Environment Programme working group meeting.

The Department will be represented by: Mr. K. James, a chartered engineer with 28 years' experience in the transport of hazardous material by sea, chairman of the IMO's sub-committee on the carriage of dangerous goods—CDG; Mr. C. K. Wilson, a physicist specialising in criticality safety and radiological protection with 10 years' experience regulating the transport of radioactive materials; Mr. C. N. Young, a chartered engineer with 14 years' experience in the regulation of radioactive material transport, chairman of the IMO's CDG working group on class 7 dangerous goods—radioactive materials.

To ask the Secretary of State for Transport what information his Department routinely collects and stores centrally on the import and export of nuclear materials by different transport modes to and from the United Kingdom.

The Department routinely collects that information which is required by the International Atomic Energy Agency publication "Safety Series No. 6: Regulations for the Safe Transport of Radioactive Material", a copy of which is held in the Library of the House.

To ask the Secretary of State for Transport what evaluation his Department has made of any of the safety standards set by the International Atomic Energy Agency for the international transport of (a) plutonium, (b) enriched uranium, (c) natural uranium and (d) radioactive waste.

The Department is involved in the evaluation of the safety standards for the transport of all radioactive materials on an ongoing basis and is a major contributor to the International Atomic Energy Agency's programme of review and revision of its international regulations.

To ask the Secretary of State for Transport when he last met the advisory committee on the safe transport of radioactive materials; and what matters were discussed and decided.

To ask the Secretary of State for Transport what is his Department's policy in regard to evaluation of independent reports published on the transport of nuclear materials.

Railway Equipment Manufacturers

To ask the Secretary of State for Transport what representations he has received from railway equipment manufacturers about investment decisions for work during the next six years.

The Railway Industry Association has submitted a copy of its evidence to the Transport Select Committee on the Government's White Paper on BR privatisation. The Steer Davies Gleave report "Rail Privatisation: Attractive Investment or Wishful Thinking" has also been submitted on behalf of the Railway Industry Association, Eurotunnel and Transport 2000. Representations have been received from several individual railway manufacturers and I am meeting the Railway Industry Association on 8 December to discuss prospects for the industry.

General Register And Record Office Of Shipping

To ask the Secretary of State for Transport what plans he has to contract out or divide up the General Register and Record Office of Shipping.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply given to the hon. Member for Cardiff, South and Penarth (Mr. Michael) on 25 November, at column 659

School Buses

To ask the Secretary of State for Transport what account he has taken of (a) parental and school governors' wishes, (b) the particular road conditions of rural areas and (c) road safety in his policy on carrying three children on a double school bus seat; and if he will make a statement.

The regulations governing the carrying capacity of public service vehicles permit three seated children under 14, sharing a double seat to count as two passengers. This is a concession and they do not have to be seated in this manner. These regulations apply throughout the country and it would not be practicable to have regional variations to take account of particular road conditions. Buses and coaches are the safest form of road passenger transport in this country. even where children are seated three to a double seat.We are continuing to review these regulations and will take account of the wishes of parents and others. For the present, I have no plans to amend them.

Disabled Passengers

To ask the Secretary of State for Transport what will be the expected annual saving to the Exchequer arising from the repeal of the vehicle excise duty exemption under the disabled passengers scheme.

I understand the saving will be in the region of £440,000, in the first year, based on the approximate annual number of new applications.Current beneficiaries under this scheme will not lose their entitlement to exemption from vehicle excise duty as a result of the repeal.

Traffic Commissioners (North Staffordshire)

To ask the Secretary of State for Transport if he will give details of the staffing resources available to the traffic commissioners responsible for north Staffordshire.

There are 46·5 permanent staff based at the West Midland traffic area office who provide support for the West Midland traffic commissioner whose geographical area includes north Staffordshire. The staff includes one grade 7 clerk, who is also the clerk of the South Wales traffic area office, two higher executive officers, five executive officers and 38·5 administrative and support staff.

Duchy Of Lancaster

Science And Technology

To ask the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster when he now intends to publish the White Paper on science and technology.

To ask the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster what proposals he has for opportunities for further consultation after the publication of the White Paper on science and technology.

The White Paper will itself need to address any questions of further consultation. But I would welcome any views which my hon. Friend, who I know is the Chairman of the Select Committee on Science and Technology, may have.

Citizens Charter

To ask the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster if he will make it his policy that requirements imposed under the citizens charter will continue to be applied to services sold to the private sector.

The citizens charter applies to all public services, and, in the private sector, to the main utilities where the regulatory bodies play a key role in protecting customers' interests in accordance with citizens' charter principles and in helping to develop competition. We will continue to appoint regulatory bodies following privatisation where it is in the public interest to do so.

Civil Servants

To ask the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster how many civil servants are currently employed by his Department (a) in London and (b) elsewhere.

Excluding its executive agencies, the Office of Public Service and Science employs 1,430 civil servants, 711 in London and 719 elsewhere, including those who work on a part-time basis.

Prime Minister

Radiation

To ask the Prime Minister if he will set out the division of responsibilities between each Government Department in investigating the risks posed by exposure to radiation.

The Department of Health is responsible in general terms for the protection of public health against radiological hazards. The Department's specific responsibilities relate to obtaining expert advice; initiating relevant research; and ensuring an effective health response in the event of a radiological emergency.The Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food's responsibilities are to protect the population from exposure to unacceptable levels of radioactivity through food chain pathways; and to minimise the impact of radioactive waste on the food, farming and fishing industries and the marine environment.The Department of Trade and Industry is responsible for civil nuclear safety in relation to the generation of electricity.The Department of Employment is responsible for the Ionising Radiation Regulations 1985, which concern the protection of workers and the public from radiation doses received as a result of any work involving ionising radiations. On this the Department is advised by the Health and Safety Commission and the regulations are enforced by the Health and Safety Executive.The Department of the Environment is responsible for establishing a radioactive waste management policy and for monitoring the environment for radioactivity. Within the Department, the regulators—Her Majesty's inspectorate of pollution—have the statutory responsibility in England and Wales for authorising uses and disposals of radioactive substances.The Ministry of Defence is responsible for defence nuclear and radiological safety.

The Department of Transport is responsible for the safety aspects of the transportation of radioactive material.

The Scottish Office, the Welsh Office and the Northern Ireland Office are responsible for all civil aspects of radiological safety in relation to their respective parts of the United Kingdom.

The National Radiological Protection Board is responsible under the Radiological Protection Act 1970 for advancing knowledge of radiological protection and for informing and advising Government Departments and others on protection from radiation hazards.

Animal Welfare

To ask the Prime Minister if he will list the Government Departments concerned with the main areas of animal welfare, indicating their respective responsibilities.

A number of Government Departments have responsibility for the welfare and conservation of animals and related matters.The Department of the Environment is responsible for policy on stray dogs; the protection of birds; wildlife and endangered species.The Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food is responsible for the welfare of livestock kept on agricultural land; the welfare of livestock at market and the welfare of horses, cattle, sheep, swine, goats and poultry in slaughterhouses and knackers yards. The Ministry is also involved in the campaign against illegal poisoning of wildlife and in the International Whaling Commission, and has responsibility for the impact of fishing practices on cetaceans.The Home Office is responsible for ensuring the adequacy of the law on cruelty to animals in general and in some specific areas, and for the law on the use of living animals in scientific procedures.The Foreign and Commonwealth Office works to raise the profile of animal welfare issues abroad, both bilaterally and with international organisations concerned.

Maastricht Treaty

To ask the Prime Minister how many representations his office has received on the Maastricht treaty from 1 January to 1 December giving a disaggregated breakdown between those originating in the United Kingdom and those from abroad.

I have received a substantial number of representations on the Maastricht treaty covering a wide range of issues.

Legal Expenses Insurance Policies

To ask the Prime Minister if he will require Ministers to take out legal expenses insurance policies.

Freight Traffic

To ask the Prime Minister if it remains his Government's policy to seek the transfer of freight traffic from road to rail; and if he will report on the extent to which freight has been transferred to rail since April 1992.

The Government believe that freight should be transported by rail whenever that makes commercial sense to customers and rail operators alike. The best way to facilitate this is to end British Rail's monopoly of rail services, as proposed in the White Paper "New Opportunities for the Railways", Cm 2012. Detailed information about rail freight carryings since April 1992 is a matter for British Rail.

To ask the Prime Minister if he will order an immediate inquiry into the reasons for and effect of the fall in the volume of rail freight traffic.

Rail freight has been in decline for many years. The Government's proposals for the privatisation of British Rail's freight operations, and the opening up of the rail network to new entrants, are aimed at improving rail's prospects for the future.

Tropical Timber

To ask the Prime Minister if he will make a statement on the United Kingdom Government's position in respect of the preparatory committee for renegotiation of the international tropical timber agreement to be convened in Quito, Ecuador, in January 1993.

The United Kingdom had hoped that a second preparatory committee in Quito, Ecuador would be unnecessary; however, the tropical timber-producing countries require more time to develop their positions before discussing them with the consuming countries. The Quito meeting will provide a valuable opportunity for the producing and consuming countries to identify the issues they wish to renegotiate. The United Kingdom intends to participate in the second preparatory meeting and will work with its European neighbour for a speedy renegotiation of the 1983 agreement.

Iraq

To ask the Prime Minister what steps Her Majesty's Government took during 1990 and prior to Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, to halt the export to Iraq of furnaces constructed by Consarc Engineering of Bellshill, near Glasgow.

[holding answer 2 December 1992]:: It is not normal practice to discuss the affairs of individual companies.

To ask the Prime Minister (1) what requests Her Majesty's Government received from the United States Administration to stop the export to Iraq of two furnaces constructed by Consarc Engineering at Bellshill, near Glasgow, during 1990;(2) what communications Her Majesty's Government received from the United States Administration during 1990 and prior to Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, concerning involvement by British companies in equipping a missile factory called Badr General Establishment.

[holding answer 2 December 1992]:: Communications between Governments are confidential.

Civil List

To ask the Prime Minister what items or headings of expenditure have been transferred from the royal family's expenditure funded from the civil list to the Government since 1972; on what dates; what is the current cost to the Exchequer of each such item or heading; and what was their cost at the time of their transfer.

[holding answer 2 December 1992]: So far as I am aware, no items or headings of direct expenditure have been transferred from the civil list to the Government since 1972. However, following advice taken in 1987, consistent with government fees and charges policy, the royal household took on board the feasibility of charging full costs for certain administrative services. These included, for example, charging for the accommodation and support services provided to staff based in the royal household but who are employed by Government Departments. Similar charges are made on behalf of the civil list to the household's royal collection department and to the Prince of Wales's office. The cost to Government Departments in the years 1987–90, which should be seen in the context of the "1990 Royal Trustees Report"—HC 629—are as follows:

£
198783,372
1988138,310
1989132,809
1990162,810
The separate identification of full costs for administrative services is in line with the Government's policy of identifying costs across the public sector.

Furniture And Furnishings (Regulations)

To ask the Prime Minister which Government Department is responsible for drafting the Furniture and Furnishings Fire Safety Regulations; and what consultations are being undertaken on the terms of the regulations.

[holding answer 3 December 1992]: The Furniture and Furnishings (Fire Safety) Regulations were made by the Department of Trade and Industry in July 1988. The DTI has recently consulted public on draft amendment regulations proposing to postpone, from March 1993 to 1 March 1994, the date by which furniture included in the letting of accommodation must meet the fire resistance requirements of the 1988 regulations. The purpose of the proposed amendment is to allow businesses providing furnished accommodation more time to prepare for the fire resistance requirements and to complete the upgrading or replacement of their existing stock of furniture. It will remain a requirement that any additional replacement or additional furniture which they supply from 1 March 1993 must meet the fire resistance requirements.

National Finance

Civil Servants

To ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many civil servants from his departments have been relocated from London to other parts of the United Kingdom (a) in the last five years and (b) in the last 10 years; and to where they were relocated.

A total of 3,114 posts from the Chancellor's departments have been relocated from London in the last five years under the current delegated approach. The table lists the moves by department and destination.

Department and LocationNumber of posts
Inland Revenue
Nottingham700
Washington20
Cardiff300
Wrexham20
Sunderland199
Bootle204
Livingstone20
Salford269
Glasgow34
East Kilbride220
Middlesbrough199
Edinburgh60
Customs and Excise
Manchester262
Liverpool360
Southend198
CSO
Newport, Wales41
Treasury
Basingstoke8
During the previous five years, 278 posts from the Chancellor's departments were relocated from London. They were all moved by the Inland Revenue on their own initiative and the locations and number of posts involved were as follows:
LocationNumber of posts
Bristol38
Solihull67
Leeds67
Birkenhead24
Manchester65
Glasgow17

Economy

To ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer what discussions he has had with industry on the current state of the economy.

My right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer and I have frequent contact with representatives of industry, and pay close attention to their views on the economy. I have taken careful note of their concerns and proposals, and the broad welcome given to the autumn statement.

Third World Debt

To ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer how much has been granted in tax relief to United Kingdom banks against possible default on third world debts in each of the last 10 years.

Provisions for doubtful sovereign debt by banks operating in the United Kingdom are estimated to have reduced corporation tax receipts in the last six years by the following amounts:

£ million
1986–8770
1987–88240
1988–89550
1989–90480
1990–91720

1 1991–92

190

1 provisional

Estimates for earlier years are zero or small.

Public Expenditure

To ask the Chancellor of the exchequer if he will make a statement on the reasons underlying the policy of seeking to reduce United Kingdom public expenditure as a proportion of national income.

It is important, as the economy recovers, to reduce public expenditure as a share of national income so as to ensure that the benefits of recovery are not pre-empted by the state. A constantly increasing proportion would impose an intolerable burden on the wealth-creating sector and choke off growth. We need to reduce over time the ratio of public spending to gross domestic product so as to achieve our aim of returning the budget to balance as the economy recovers.

To ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer what weight is given to service-specific costs such as health care and medical inflation, education inflation and social service provision inflation in calculating public spending by Departments: and if he will make a statement.

The Government do not plan public expenditure in volume terms. However, service-specific costs are one of the many factors taken into account when determining the allocation of the public expenditure total between programmes.

Share Ownership

To ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will provide a breakdown of share ownership by occupational status for the most recent date available.

The 1992 Treasury-ProShare share ownership survey showed that 22 per cent. of the adult population in Great Britain owned shares. Of these shareholders, 45 per cent. were in full-time employment; 10 per cent. were in part-time employment; 2 per cent. were students; 5 per cent. were retired; and 37 per cent. were inactive or unemployed.

Sellafield

To ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer what meetings he and his Ministers and officials have had during the past 12 months with (a) Greenpeace and (b) other anti-nuclear groups to discuss the future of the thermal oxide reprocessing plant at Sellafield.

Following a request from Greenpeace for a meeting to discuss the economics of nuclear fuel reprocessing, Treasury officials met representatives from Greenpeace in September 1992. There have been no meetings with other anti-nuclear groups in the last 12 months.

Pensions (Tax Relief)

To ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be the cost in 1993–94 of removing tax relief at the higher rate from (a) personal pensions, (b) all forms of occupational pensions and (c) all pensions to which higher rate tax exemption applies.

[holding answer 4 December 1992]: The latest estimates of the direct revenue yields for 1993–94, assuming statutory indexation of 3·25 per cent. on 1992–93 levels of allowances and thresholds, are as follows:

£ million
Withdrawal of higher rate relief:—
on contributions to personal pensions1180
on contributions to occupational pensions300
on all pensions480
1 Including relief for retirement annuity premia and free standing additionnal voluntary contributions.
No account has been taken of possible behavioural changes resulting from restricting availability of relief at the higher rate in these ways.

Appointments

To ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer when he plans to announce the appointment of a team of independent forecasters to assist the Treasury; and if he will name the individuals he has approached to date.

[holding answer 1 December 1992]:: Pursuant to my reply of 3 December 1992, Official Report, column 306, I have now invited the following to become members of the panel:

  • Andrew Britton, Esq., National Institute of Economic and Social Research.
  • Professor Tim Congdon, Lombard Street Research
  • Professor David Currie, London Business School
  • Gavyn Davies, Esq., Goldman Sachs International Ltd
  • Professor Wynne Godley, Cambridge University
  • Professor Patrick Minford, Liverpool University
  • Andrew Sentance, Esq., Confederation of British Industry.

Environment

Common Land

To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will seek to introduce new legislation on common land in England and Wales.

Our policy on common land in England and Wales was set out in the statement made by the then Minister for the Environment and Countryside on 26 July 1990, at columns 391–92, but I cannot say when Commons legislation will be promoted to implement that policy.

Energy Efficiency

To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment how much investment he is making in programmes for energy efficiency, energy conservation and combined heat and power programmes in the current year.

The Energy Efficiency Office encourages energy efficiency through a range of initiatives, for which the budget for 1992–93 is £63 million. The promotion of combined heat and power is an integral part of the best practice programme which is one of these initiatives.

Civil Servants

To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment how many civil servants from his Department have been relocated from London to other parts of the United Kingdom (a) in the last five years and (b) in the last 10 years; and to where they were relocated.

Over the past five years my Department has relocated 174 posts from London to Bedford, Bristol, Leeds and Manchester. Although records are not available for earlier years, it would appear that no posts were relocated during the five years prior to 1988.Overall some 45 per cent. of my Department's staff now work outside London. The need to retain posts in London is kept under review and we shall continue to look for opportunities to move posts to other parts of the country in accordance with Government policy.

Homelessness

To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will meet the Churches National Housing Coalition to discuss its petition on the growth and persistence of homelessness.

I addressed a meeting organised by the Churches National Housing Coalition as part of its lobby of Parliament on 1 December 1992, and I listened with interest to the concerns expressed.

Council Tax

To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will estimate the income to be raised from the council tax in respect of (a) hospices and (b) other residential care homes, nationally and broken down by county authority area; and what representations he has received upon the council tax liability of (i) hospices and (ii) other residential care homes.

There are about 16,000 residential care homes in England, and some 3,500 nursing homes, including hospices. My Department does not hold information on the bands to which each home will be allocated. Nor do we know the levels of discounts, reductions for disabilities and transitional relief to which each will be entitled. Furthermore, as local authorities will not be setting their council taxes until the spring, it is impossible to estimate the amount of tax which will be payable.My Department has received a number of representations about the council tax from individual care and nursing homes, and from associations representing such homes.

Local Government Superannuation Scheme

To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will postpone the implementation of the local government superannuation scheme until after the results of the Goode inquiry have been made public; and if he will make a statement.

The recommendations of the Pension Law Review Committee will be considered carefully when they are published. If changes to the regulations governing the local government superannuation scheme become necessary, statutory consultations with the interested parties will take place. Meantime, amendments to the scheme will continue.

Council Reallocation Grants

To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment how many council reallocation grants were paid to people in (a) London and (b) England, wishing to move to Wales, in each year since 1989; and what was the cost to his Department in each of these years.

Section 129 of the Housing Act 1988 empowers local authorities to give grants to their tenants to help them obtain other accommodation by buying or leasing a home or by extending an existing property.Reports on the operation of cash incentive schemes in 1989–90 and 1990–91, based on returns from local authorities, have already been placed in the Library and include the information requested.In 1991–92, a total of 22 grants were paid to tenants in London who wished to move to Wales and 12 to tenants in the rest of England who also wished to move to Wales. Information on the actual cost of the 34 grants in question is not readily available, but the average grant paid nationally in 1991–92 was £16,496.

Sellafield

To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment what work has been undertaken by his Department to assess the economic implications of a delay in commissioning the thermal oxide reprocessing plant at Sellafield.

None. Consultation has already begun on the necessary draft authorisation for the Sellafield site to cover THORP operation.

To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment what meetings he and his Ministers and officials have had during the last 12 months with (a) Greenpeace and (b) other anti-nuclear groups to discuss the commissioning of the thermal oxide reprocessing plant at Sellafield.

My right hon. and learned Friend the Secretary of State met members of Greenpeace on 21 September and discussed a number of issues including the commissioning of the thermal oxide reprocessing plant at Sellafield.

Derelict Land Grant

To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment how much derelict land grant expenditure there has been in the metropolitan borough of Wirral council district in each year since 1984 ( a) at current prices and (b) at 1984 prices.

[holding answer 4 December 1992]: The information requested is as follows:

Metropolitan Borough of Wirral: Derelict Land Grant Expenditure
Expenditure1992 Prices1984 Prices
£££
1984–85191,533290,307191,533
1985–86213,122319,329202,091
1986–87303,962441,240279,244

Expenditure

1992 Prices

1984 Prices

£

£

£

1987–88187,922258,580163,646
1988–89559,000716,985453,751
1989–90175,000210,613133,289
1990–91371,841414,428262,278
1991–92351,419366,354231,852

11992–93

400,000400,000253,144
Total2.753,7993,417,8362,170,828

1 Forecast

A further £102,000 derelict land grant was paid in this period towards reclamation schemes carried out by non-local authority applicants in the metropolitan borough of Wirral.

Empty Properties

To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will break down into local authority areas the distribution of the £750 million budget announced in the autumn statement for the purchase of empty houses.

[holding answer 4 December 1992]: Of the £750 million package, £627 million is being spent in England. A total of £577 million has been allocated to the Housing Corporation for the purchase of empty, new and repossessed properties and £20 million for additional grants under the tenants incentive schemes—TIS. A total of £30 million is being allocated to local authorities for additional grants under the cash incentive scheme—CIS.The resources for the purchase of empty properties are being allocated by the corporation to housing associations operating in a number of local authority areas. Around 75 per cent. of the money has now been allocated; the remainder will be allocated by early January. The distribution of the resources allocated so far is as follows:

£ million
London and Home Counties (North East)68·60
London and Home Counties (North West)62·60
London and Home Counties (South)84·33
West59·20
East Midlands42·10
West Midlands34·20
North East37·40
North West31·40
Merseyside6·80
The £20 million for additional TIS grants has been allocated by the corporation to its regions as follows:

£ million
London and Home Counties (North East)2·914
London and Home Cunties (North West)3·735
London and Home Conties (South)4·161
West2·434
East Midlands1·466
West Midlands2·072
North East1·326
North West1·506
Merseyside0·376
The £30 million for additional CIS grants will be spent in London and the south-east. Allocations to individual local authorities will be announced shortly.

Tarmac

To ask the Secretary of State for the Environment what was the amount of the claim for liquidated damages made by the Property Services Agency Projects board against Tarmac in respect of the contract on the Hewell Grange prison in Leeds.

[holding answer 4 December 1992]: The amount of any such claim is commercially confidential. The contract on Hewell Grange prison was excluded from the sale of PSA Projects to Tarmac. Any claims are the responsibility of the Home Office, as the client.

Education

Higher Education

To ask the Secretary of State for Education if he will publish an updated version of the table in annex 2 of "Higher Education: A New Framework", Cm 1541, setting out projections of home student numbers in higher education in Great Britain.

The public expenditure proposals announced in the autumn statement provide for a 13 per cent. increase in the number of full-time equivalent home and EC students in higher education in England over the next three years. The figures are:

Number
1992–93776,000
1993–94842,000
1994–95877,000
1995–96880,000
The figures assume that the proportion of young people entering higher education—currently well over one in four—will remain broadly steady over the next three years, and that it will increase to one in three by the end of the decade—the level projected in the 1991 White Paper.

Mandatory Awards

To ask the Secretary of State for Education how many investigations have been made by his Department into reports of delays in payment of mandatory awards; and if he will make a statement.

The Department has investigated complaints of delays made against seven local education authorities in the current academic year.

Students (Sponsorship)

To ask the Secretary of State for Education if he will call for a report on how institutions of higher and further education are reacting to the withdrawing of financial sponsorship from students by industrial and commercial sponsors.

Industry and commerce will decide questions of student sponsorship in the context of their overall recruitment policies. It is for individual higher and further education institutions themselves to consider whether changes in the financial sponsorship of students have any implications for the particular mix and type of courses they provide. Any withdrawing of sponsorship by industry and commerce will not however affect a student's entitlement to a mandatory award or student loan.

Discipline

To ask the Secretary of State for Education what role his Department has in any disciplinary proceedings in locally or directly managed schools.

Disciplinary procedures applying to staff in local education authority-maintained schools without delegated budgets are the responsibility of the local education authority; in schools with delegated budgets and grant-maintained schools, they are under the control of the governing body.

Open University

To ask the Secretary of State for Education if he will make a statement outlining what action he has taken in respect of the final report of the visiting committee of the Open university.

My right hon. Friend decided, on the advice of the chairman of the Open university visiting committee, that the report should be passed to the Higher Education Funding Council for England, since that body would be responsible for the Open university's funding from April 1993. A copy of the report was sent to the chairman of the funding council on 21 August.

To ask the Secretary of State for Education how much financial provision he has made available in the current year to the Open university to assist students in financial hardship.

The practice of earmarking a portion of the Open university's recurrent grant for the provision of financial support for unemployed students was discontinued in 1991 at the university's request. The university is now free to determine how much of its grant it spends on assistance for students suffering financial hardship.

Ec Education Council

To ask the Secretary of State for Education what was the outcome of the recent meeting of the Council of EC Ministers of Education.

I chaired the meeting on Friday 27 November of the Council of EC Education Ministers. The Under-Secretary of State for Further and Higher Education and the Under-Secretary of State for Scotland represented the United Kingdom.After two and a half years of negotiation, the Ministers reached agreement on the terms of the new statute of the European schools. The effect of this will be to improve the efficiency of operation of the board of governors of these nine schools, which were established for the children of the staff of the EC institutions.The Ministers also agreed that there should be a second four-year phase of the TEMPUS programme and exchanged views on its key features. TEMPUS is a programme of EC assistance to the countries of central and eastern Europe through co-operation in higher education. The first phase expires after the academic year 1993–94 and it should now be possible for the Council formally to adopt the second phase early next year.

The Ministers adopted conclusions on and discussed the future directions of co-operation at Community level in higher education and in open and distance learning. They adopted conclusions on EC-United States cooperation in education and training, health education in schools and the Eurydice network of information exchange in education.

School Closures

To ask the Secretary of State for Education if he will outline the criteria for the closure of rural schools.

My right hon. Friend would expect any closure proposal to take account of considerations such as the number of pupils on roll, the quality of alternative provision, parental choice, local geography, the distance to be travelled to alternative schools, and the age of children making those journeys. That said, very small schools are expensive to run and where alternative schools are readily accessible closures can make sense.

Surplus School Places (Thamesmead)

To ask the Secretary of State for Education what estimate he has made of the number of surplus school places at both primary and secondary level in the Thamesmead area in both Greenwich and Bexley; and if he will make a statement.

On the basis of the Department's survey of school capacity we estimate that in 1991 the London borough of Greenwich had 3,026 surplus places in the primary sector and 3,756 surplus places in the secondary sector, representing 15 and 22 per cent. of total capacity respectively. The authority has suggested that these figures should be revised to 2,689 primary and 3,796 secondary. It is not possible to say how many of these were located in the Thamesmead area.

A-Levels

To ask the Secretary of State for Education what is the current percentage of those students taking GCSEs who go on to take A-levels.

About 40 per cent. of pupils who take GCSEs at 16 go on to study for A-levels at schools and publicly funded further education establishments.

Home Department

Public Interest Immunity Certificates

To ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will introduce legislation to amend the law regarding public interest immunity certificates.

There are no current plans for legislation. However, the issue is within the scope of both Lord Justice Scott's inquiry and the Royal Commission on criminal justice; and we shall study carefully any recommendations that are made.

Police Pension Scheme

To ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will take the necessary legislative and other steps to provide that the police pension scheme shall provide a pension for the widow of a policeman who married after retirement from the police force but before 6 April 1978 as if the requirements of the Social Security Act 1975 applied prior to that date.

No. The police pension scheme is consistent with other main public service pension schemes on this matter. There is no justification for making an exception.

Teenage Prisoners

To ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many (a) 16-year-olds, (b) 15-year-olds and (c) 14-year-olds have been held in an adult prison on remand for any period of time during each of the last five years.

The readily available information is given in the table. Separate figures for adult prisons are not readily available.

Receptions of untried and convicted unsentenced juveniles into local prisons and remand centres in England and Wales: by type of initial reception and age, 1987–91
Type of reception and ageNumber of persons
198719881989199019911
Untried
1421310
15545510443359401
161,162994935800673
Convicted unsentenced
1411
153825252229
1611791638455
1 Provisional figures.

Prison Service (Director General)

To ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make a statement regarding the appointment of a new director general of the prison service.

Devon And Cornwall Police Authority

To ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department what increases in uniformed officers have been approved for the Devon and Cornwall police authority for 1991–92, 1992–93 and 1993–94; what were the requests of the authority; and if he will make a statement.

The information is given in the table.

YearApplications (Number of posts)Posts approved
1991–923115
1992–937048
1993–9449Nil
In the light of the Government's decision that constraints must be placed upon public expenditure, my right hon. and learned Friend has concluded that the costs of additional police officers cannot at present be justified. He has therefore decided not to approve any increases in police establishments for 1993–94.

Immigration Ministers' Meeting

To ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make a statement about the meeting of European Community Immigration and Trevi Ministers which he chaired in London on 30 November and 1 December.

The meeting of Ministers concerned with immigration was the 13th in the series of meetings held towards the end of each presidency since 1986.Ministers approved a number of texts forming part of the immigration and asylum work programme endorsed by the Maastricht European Council a year ago. These consisted of

(i)A resolution on manifestly unfounded applications for asylum, which defines the cases to which it is appropriate to apply accelerated procedures;
(ii)A resolution on "host third countries", which sets out objective criteria defining the circumstances in which it is appropriate to return an asylum applicant to a safe third country for substantive consideration of the application;
(iii)Conclusions on countries in which there is generally no serious risk of persecution, which create a presumption against the claim of an asylum applicant from a country which is generally regarded as safe;
(iv)A recommendation regarding practices followed by member states on expulsion, designed to encourage best practice both in the effective removal of persons unlawfully in the territory of the member states and in the application of safeguards against unjustified or arbitrary expulsion;
(v) A recommendation regarding transit for the purposes of expulsion, which lays down procedures to be followed where it is necessary for a person being expelled to transit to another member state.

Ministers also considered a draft resolution on harmonisation of national policies on family reunification. They agreed the bulk of the text, but remitted one issue for further consideration by officials.

Ministers also approved conclusions on people displaced from former Yugoslavia and in particular the need for a more co-ordinated approach to the problem.

I am placing in the Library of the House copies of all the documents that were approved by Immigration Ministers, together with the press communiqué.

Ministers discussed developments on the free movement of persons in 1993 and exchanged views on their plans and intentions in respect of internal frontiers.

Discussion at the meeting of Trevi Ministers on I December focused on the establishment of Europol and in particular its first stage, the Europol drugs unit. The Ministers agreed that they wished to establish Europol, and in particular the Europol drugs unit, as quickly as possible. The meeting was unable to decide upon a location for the unit and this decision will now rest with the European Council.

Trevi Ministers also approved a number of reports from individual Trevi working groups on police co-operation against terrorism, police training and the co-ordination of intergovernmental police co-operation.

Discretionary Life Sentences

To ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) on how many occasions the new discretionary life sentence tribunals have recommended that prisoners be moved to a lower security category; and on how many occasions that recommendation has been acted upon;(2) how many discretionary life sentence prisoners have appeared before the new lifer tribunals; and how many of them have been recommended for immediate release.

Thirty-three discretionary life prisoners have so far appeared before a discretionary lifer panel of the parole hoard. Four prisoners have been released on life licence following a direction from the board. Of the remaining prisoners, the board has recommended that one should be released for deportation, 15 should be moved to conditions of lower security and that six should be considered for specialist treatment. These recommendations are being carefully considered.

Young Offenders

To ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many section 53 offenders, aged 16 years and under, are at present placed in adult prisons in England and Wales.

According to the records held centrally, which are approximate, no offenders under 17 detained under section 53 of the Children and Young People Act 1933 were held in adult prisons in England and Wales on 31 August 1992, the latest date for which information is available. However, six such detainees were being held in remand centres.

Terrorists

To ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many persons from Northern Ireland are presently serving prison sentences in Great Britain for terrorist offences; how many of these are serving life sentences; and to which terrorist organisations they belong.

On 1 December 1992, 16 prisoners who have given Northern Ireland as their place of birth were serving sentences in England and Wales for serious offences related to terrorism. Of these, nine are serving life sentences. It is not the practice to discuss claimed or suspected affiliation to particular organisations.

Drugs

To ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department what percentage of the Welsh prison population is made up of prisoners serving sentences for drug-related offences.

On 30 June 1992, the latest date for which information is readily available, prisoners serving sentences for drugs offences accounted for approximately 3·5 per cent. of the total sentenced population and 2 per cent. of the total population, including remand and non-criminal prisoners, in prison service establishments in Wales.

To ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department what measures are being taken to prevent the flow of drugs into prisons.

We have a range of measures to deter and detect attempts to bring drugs into prisons. These include searching prisoners on reception and on return from home leave or other absences; searching or storing away visitors' hand luggage; and searching visitors themselves where there is reason to believe that they intend to smuggle drugs in.We search prisoners, their cells and other areas for those drugs that do find their way into prison. We have increased the number of prison dogs trained to detect drugs and each prison has received a training package to help staff detect and identify drugs.The best way to prevent drugs entering prisons is to tackle the root cause by reducing the demand. We have published detailed guidelines on the through care of drug misusers. These require all prisons to have in place effective arrangements for identifying drug users and providing clinical care and detoxification programmes where necessary. We encourage prisons to make full use of community drug agencies to provide counselling and preventive training.

Life Licence Prisoners

To ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many life licence prisoners are currently in gaols in England and Wales.

These figures are published annually in "Prison Statistics, England and Wales", chapter 8 of the volume for 1990, Cm 1800.The provisonal figure for the number of life sentenced prisoners in prison service establishments on 30 June 1991 who had been recalled from licence is 122. This compares with a total population of life sentence prisoners of 2,896 for the same date.

Public Interest Immunity Certificates

To ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) pursuant to his answer of 25 November, Official Report, column 654, what is the nature of the national interest which led him to sign a public interest immunity certificate on 27 July;(2)pursuant to his answer of 25 November,

Official Report, column 654, if he will list the police forces, prosecuting authorities and others involved in the communications regarding which he signed a public interest immunity certificate on 27 July, whether in the United Kingdom or abroad;

(3)pursuant to his answer of 25 November, Official Report, column 654, how many communications, and over what period of time, were covered by the public interest immunity certificate he signed on 27 July; and between what dates those communications took place;

(4)pursuant to his answer of 25 November, Official Report, column 654, what matters or issues were dealt with in the communications covered by the public interest immunity certificates he signed on 27 July;

(5)pursuant to his answer of 25 November, Official Report, column 654, whether, in regard to the public interest immunity certificate he signed on 27 July, the communications covered involved matters of national security interest.

[holding answer 1 to 4 December 1992]:: The certificate asserted the public interest in protecting the confidentially of exchange of information in order to prevent or detect crime. I do not believe that it would be in the public interest for exchanges between police authorities investigating crime to be put into the public domain. It would not be sensible to give further details in this case.

Overseas Development

Peru

40.

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how many bilateral aid agreements are in force between the United Kingdom and Peru.

Voluntary Agencies (British Workers)

41.

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how many British citizens are working for voluntary aid agencies overseas.

We have no information on the total number of British citizens working for voluntary agencies overseas. However, the four volunteer sending agencies funded by the Overseas Development Administration have around 2,000 volunteers working in developing countries.

Good Governance Policy

42.

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs when Her Majesty's Government next intend to review the restrictions on development aid imposed in pursuit of the good governance policy.

We keep aid allocations to individual recipient countries under regular review. This takes into account the standards of government in the countries concerned.

Somalia

43.

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what is his estimate of the amount of aid to Somalia that has not been used for the purposes for which it was intended.

It is impossible to estimate accurately the extent of misappropriation. There are conflicting reports. They vary according to the security of the region where aid is to be delivered and the type of assistance provided. Food aid for the centre and south of the country is most vulnerable. We hope the new UN/US operation will provide a more secure environment, which will enable more aid to be delivered to those in need. On 4 December, Baroness Chalker, the Minister for Overseas Development, announced a further contribution of £4·5 million for humanitarian assistance to Somalia. This brings Britain's contribution to Somalia's relief effort to £31·5 million in 1992.

Aid Payments

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how much aid was paid for in (a) pound sterling and (b) other currencies, specifying which currencies, in each of the last 10 years; and what were the percentages for each currency.

The information requested is available for only part of the last 10 years, and could be extracted from departmental records only at disproportionate cost.

World Bank

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how many structured adjustment loans the World bank made in each year since 1983; and if he will list them by country and amount.

The number of structural adjustment loans provided by the World bank between 1983 and 1992 were:

CountryLoanAmount
$ millions
AlgeriaEconomic Reform Loan300·0
AlgeriaEnterprise and Financial Sector Restruction350·0
ArgentinaAgricultural Sector Loan350·0
ArgentinaTrade Policy Loan500·0
ArgentinaBanking Sector Loan400·0
Argentina2nd Trade Policy Loan300·0
ArgentinaPublic Enterprise Reform Adjustment300·0
ArgentinaPublic Sector Reform325·0
BangladeshIndustrial Sector Loan190·0
BangladeshEnergy Sector Loan175·0
BangladeshFinancial Sector Credit181·4
BeninSAL I45·0
BeninSAL II55·0
BoliviaImport Reconstruction Loan55·0
Bolivia2nd Import Reconstruction Loan47·1
BoliviaFinancial Sector Loan70·0
BoliviaSAC (SAL)50·4
BrazilExport Development Loan352·0
BrazilAgriculture and Trade Development Loan303·0
BrazilAgriculture Market Reform Loan500·0
BulgariaSAL I250·0
Burkina FasoFertilizer Loan13·7
Burkina FasoSAL I80·0
BurundiSAL I31·2
BurundiSAL II90·0
BurundiAgricultural Services Sector Loan33·1
CameroonSAL I150·0
Central African RepublicSAL I30·0
Central African RepublicAgricultural Sector Loan15·0
Central African RepublicSAL II40·0
Central African RepublicSAL III45·0
ChadFinancial Sector Loan37·5
ChadTransportation Loan60·0
ChileSAL I250·0
ChileSAL II250·0
ChileSAL III250·0
ChileRural Sector Loan300·0
ColombiaTrade and Export Diversification Loan300·0
ColombiaTrade and Agricultural Policy250·0
ColombiaEnergy Sector Loan300·0
ColombiaPublic Sector Reform304·0
ComorosMacroeconomic Reform and Capital Building (SAL)8·0
CongoSAL I70·0
Costa RicaExport Development Loan25·2
Costa RicaSAL I80·0
Costa RicaSAL II100·0
Cote d'lvoireSAL II250·0
Cote d'IvoireSAL HI250·0
Cote d'IvoireAgricultural Sector Adjustment150·0
Cote d'IvoireEnergy Sector Loan100·0
Cote d'IvoireWater Supply Sewerage Sector Adjustment80·0
Cote d'IvoireFinancial Sector Adjustment200·0
Cote d'IvoireHuman Resources Development150·0
Cote d'IvoireRegulatory Reform100·0

Number

198315
198415
198516
198625
198731
198828
198933
199032
199133

11992

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The table provides information on the loans by country, title and amount:

Country

Loan

Amount

$ millions

CzechoslovakiaSAL I450·0
EcuadorAgricultural Sector Loan100·0
EcuadorFinancial Sector Loan100·0
Egypt, Arab RepublicStructural Adjustment (SAL)300·0
El SalvadorSAL I75·0
GabonSAL I50·0
GambiaSAL I16·5
GambiaSAL II23·0
GhanaTrade and Import Sector Loan40·0
GhanaExport Rehabilitation Loan76·0
Ghana2nd Trade and Import Sector Loan87·0
GhanaIndustrial Sector Loan53·5
GhanaEducational Sector Loan34·5
GhanaSAL I115·0
GhanaFinancial Sector Loan100·0
GhanaSAL II120·0
GhanaEducation SAC II50·0
GhanaPrivate Investment Promotion (SAL)126·1
GhanaFINSAC100·0
GuineaSAL I42·0
GuineaSAL 1165·0
GuineaEducation Sector Adjustment Loan20·0
Guinea BissauImport Reconstruction Loan15·0
Guinea BissauSAL I15·0
Guinea BissauSAL II23·4
GuyanaSAC103·4
HondurasSAL I50·0
HondurasSAL II90·0
HondurasSAC (SAL)20·0
HondurasEnergy Sector83·8
HungaryIndustrial Sector Loan100·0
Hungary2nd Industrial Sector Loan200·0
HungarySAL I200·0
HungarySAL II250·0
IndonesiaTrade Policy Loan300·0
Indonesia2nd Trade Policy Loan300·0
IndonesiaPrivate Sector Development Loan350·0
IndonesiaPrivate Sector Development Loan II250·0
IndiaOil and Gas Sector Development150·0
IndiaSAL500·0
JamaicaSAL II60·2
JamaicaExport Development Fund HI30·1
JamaicaSAL III55·0
JamaicaTrade and Finance Sectors Loan40·0
JamaicaPublic Enterprises Sector Loan20·0
JamaicaAgriculture Sector Adjustment25·0
JamaicaTrade and Financial Sectors Adjustment II30·0
JordanTrade Adjustment150·0
KenyaSAL II130·9
KenyaAgricultural Sector Loan60·0
KenyaIndustry and Trade Sectors Loan112·0
KenyaFinancial Sector Loan120·0
KenyaExport Development149·2
KenyaAgricultural Sector Adjustment II75·0
KenyaEducation Sector Adjustment Credit100·0
Korea, Republic ofSAL II300·0
Korea, Republic ofIndustry and Finance Sectors Loan222·0
Lao, People's Democratic RepublicSAL I40·0
Lao, People's Democratic RepublicSAL II (SAC)40·0
MadagascarIndustrial Assistance Loan60·0
MadagascarAgricultural Sector Loan93·0
MadagascarIndustry and Trade Policy Loan83·0
MadagascarPublic Sector Adjustment Loan126·3
MalawiFertilizer Loan5·0
MalawiSAL II55·0
MalawiSAL HI70·0
MalawiIndustry and Trade Policy Loan70·0
MalawiAgriculture Sector75·2
MaliPublic Sector Loan40·0

Country

Loan

Amount

$ millions

MaliHuman Resources Loan26·0
MaliAgriculture Sector Adjustment Loan53·0
MaliSAL I70·0
MauritaniaPublic Sector Loan16·4
MauritaniaPublic Enterprise Loan20·0
MauritaniaSAL I42·4
MauritaniaPrivate Enterprise Sector Adjustment42·5
MauritaniaAgricultural Sector Adjustment Loan/ Irrigation Improvement25·0
MauritiusSAL II40·0
MauritiusIndustrial Sector Loan25·0
MexicoExport Development Loan352·0
MexicoTrade Policy Loan500·0
Mexico2nd Trade Policy Loan500·0
MexicoAgricultural Sector Loan300·0
MexicoFertilizer Sector Loan265·0
MexicoFinancial Sector Loan500·0
MexicoPublic Enterprises Reform Loan500·0
MexicoIndustrial Sector Loan500·0
MexicoIndustrial Restructuring Loan250·0
MexicoRoad Transportation/Telecommunications Sector Adjustment380·0
MexicoSpecial Interest Support1,260·0
MexicoAgricultural Sector Adjustment II400·0
MexicoExport Sector300·0
MoroccoTrade and Industry Policy Loan150·4
MoroccoAgricultural Sector Loan100·0
Morocco2nd Trade and Industry Loan200·0
MoroccoEducational Sector Loan150·0
MoroccoPublic Enterprises Reform Loan240·0
MoroccoAgricultural Sector Loan225·0
MoroccoSAL I200·0
MoroccoFinancial Sector Development235·0
MozambiqueEconomic Recovery Programme88·6
MozambiqueEconomic Recovery Programme90·0
NepalSAL I50·0
NepalSAL II60·0
NicaraguaEconomic Reconstruction Credit (SAL)120·3
NigerSAL I60·0
NigerPublic Enterprises Reform Loan80·0
NigeriaFertilizer Sector Loan250·0
NigeriaTrade and Investment Sector Loan452·0
Nigeria2nd Trade and Investment Loan500·0
NigeriaEducation University Development120·0
PakistanEnergy Sector Loan178·0
PakistanExport Development Loan70·0
PakistanAgricultural Sector Loan200·0
Pakistan2nd Energy Sector Loan278·0
PakistanFinancial Sector Loan150·0
PanamaSAL. I60·2
PanamaSAL 11100·0
Papua New GuineaSAL50·0
PhilippinesSAL II302·3
PhilippinesAgricultural Sector Loan150·0
PhilippinesEconomic Recovery Programme300·0
PhilippinesPublic Sector Loan200·0
PhilippinesFinancial Sector Loan300·0
PhilippinesDebt. Management Loan200·0
PhilippinesEnvironment and Natural Resources Management224·0
PolandSAL I300·0
PolandFinancial Institutions Development200·0
PolandRestructuring and Privatisation280·0
RwandaSAL I90·0
Sâo Tomé and PrincipeSAL I7·0
Sâo Tomé and PrincipeSAC II9·8
SenegalSAL II64·0
SenegalSAL III85·0
SenegalBanking Financial Sector45·0
SenegalSAL IV80·0
Sierra LeoneAgricultural Sector Loan21·5
SomaliaAgricultural Sector Loan62·6
Somalia2nd Agricultural Sector Loan70·0

Country

Loan

Amount

$ millions

Sri LankaEconomic Reconstruction Credit95·2
Sri LankaPublic Manufacturing Enterprise Adjustment120·0
Sudan2nd Agricultural Rehabilitation Loan50·0
TanzaniaMultisector Rehabilitation Programme96·2
TanzaniaIndustry Rehabilitation and Trade Loan135·0
TanzaniaAgricultural Adjustment Credit211·3
TanzaniaFinancial Sector200·0
ThailandSAL II175·0
TogoSAL I40·0
TogoSAL II37·8
TogoSAL III45·0
TogoSAL IV55·0
TogoPopulation/Health Adjustment14·2
Trinidad and TobagoSAL40·0
TunisiaAgricultural Sector Loan150·0
TunisiaIndustry and Trade Policy Loan150·0
TunisiaSAL I150·0
Tunisia2nd Agricultural Sector Loan84·0
TunisiaPrivate Enterprise Investment130·0
TunisiaEconomic and Financial Reform Support (SAL)250·0
TurkeySAL IV300·8
TurkeySAL V376·0
TurkeyAgricultural Sector Loan300·0
TurkeyFinancial Sector Loan300·0
TurkeyEnergy Sector Loan325·0
Turkey2nd Financial Sector Loan400·0
UgandaAgricultural Sector Loan70·0
UgandaEconomic Recovery Programme65·0
UgandaEconomic Recovery II126·6
UgandaAgricultural Sector Adjustment Credit100·0
UgandaSAC I (SAL)125·0
UruguayAgricultural Sector Loan60·0
UruguaySAL I80·0
UruguaySAL II140·0
UruguayDDSR Support (DRL)65·0
VenezuelaTrade Policy Loan353·0
VenezuelaSAL I402·0
VenezuelaFinancial Sector Adjustment300·0
VenezuelaPublic Enterprise Reform350·0
VenezuelaInterest Support Loan150·0
YugoslaviaSAL I275·0
YugoslaviaFertilizer Loan90·0
YugoslaviaSAL II400·0
ZaireIndustrial Sector Loan80·0
ZaireSAL I149·3
ZambiaExport Rehabilitation and Diversification75·0
ZambiaAgricultural Sector Loan35·0
ZambiaIndustrial Sector Loan62·0
ZambiaEconomic Recovery Programme50·0
ZambiaRecovery Credit (SAL)237·2
ZimbabweExport Industry Policy Loan70·6

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how many staff are employed in the United Kingdom's executive director's office at the World bank in Washington DC; and if he will give details of their duties.

The United Kingdom executive director at the World hank, who is also our executive director at the International Monetary Fund, is supported by an alternate director for each institution and by six technical assistants. Details of the activities of the board of directors are set out in the World bank's annual report, a copy of which is available in the Libraries of the House.

Iraq

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what progress is currently being made by his Department in securing direct flights containing humanitarian aid into Iraqi Kurdistan.

Together with other contributors to humanitarian operations in northern Iraq, we believe that road, rather than air, transport is the most cost-effective way of getting aid to those who need it. We have therefore supported the United Nations plan of action which gives priority to ensuring the delivery of relief supplies by road.

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what efforts are currently undertaken by his Department to alleviate any difficulties faced by the Kurdish people of northern Iraq as a direct result of the United Nations imposed sanctions against Iraq.

The difficulties faced by the Kurdish people of northern Iraq result from the actions of the Baghdad Government, including an internal embargo on the supply of essential goods, rather than from United Nations sanctions. Food, medicine and other goods for essential civilian needs are not covered under the terms of the United Nations sanctions resolutions.

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make representations to the European Community to ensure that assistance granted to Iraqi Kurdistan is channelled through the Iraqi Kurdish National Assembly and non-governmental organisations.

We are in regular contact with the Commission of the European Community about humanitarian assistance to Kurdish areas of northern Iraq. Like our own bilateral aid, EC aid to these areas is being channelled through non-governmental organisations and the World Food Programme.

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what representations he has made to the United Nations concerning the delivery of food, fuel, medicine and reconstruction equipment and material for water, sanitation and shelter for the Kurdish people of Northern Iraq.

We hold regular discussions with the United Nations on these issues. My noble Friend the Minister for Overseas Development met the head or the United Nations department of humanitarian affairs on 7 December, and agreed with him on the urgent need for the provision of relief supplies to northern Iraq, in view of the imminent onset of winter.

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make it his policy to channel aid to the Kurdish people of northern Iraq either through the United Nations or through the Iraqi Kurdish National Assembly.

Our bilateral aid to northern Iraq has been channelled through UN agencies, and through British and Kurdish non-governmental organisations. Details of our latest pledge were given in my reply of 26 October to the hon. Member for Bradford, North (Mr. Rooney), at column 433

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what representations he has made to the Government of Turkey concerning the transport of non-military aid through Turkey to Iraqi Kurdistan.

We hold regular discussions with the Government of Turkey on humanitarian operations in northern Iraq. We welcome the cooperation which they have given in enabling food and other relief goods to be transported from Turkey to Kurdish areas of Iraq.

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what proposals he has for helping the Kurds in Iraq.

We have spent £52·4 million since April 1991 on aid for Iraqi civilians. Further relief assistance is urgently needed before the onset of winter. We are therefore making available today a further £2·6 million, of which about £2·4 million will be provided to the World Food Programme for urgently needed edible oil and pulses, and the remainder to British nongovernmental organisations for relief activities in northern Iraq.

Forests

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what countries have benefited from United Kingdom bilateral aid assistance under the tropical forestry action plan; and how much money has been pledged and disbursed in relation to each recipient country.

The following countries/areas have benefited from United Kingdom bilateral aid assistance under agreed tropical forestry action plans over the last five years.

PledgedDisbursed
£ million£ million
BelizeTotal to be determined0·404
Cameroon1·9001·000
Caribbean Community0·2940·245
Costa Rica0·7060
Ghana5·4913·566
Honduras4·1521·765
JamaicaTotal to be determined0·012
Nepal9·2853·613
Papua New Guinea0·2290·182
Sri Lanka10·3435·900
Total32·40016·687

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs when the publication of the African Development bank's forestry policy will take place.

The African Development bank's forestry policy paper was issued in draft on 2 December 1992. Internal consultations are expected to be completed by end-January 1993, and publication should follow shortly thereafter.

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will give details of bilateral forestry projects approved for Brazil with total estimated costs.

Following is the information:1. ABRACOS (Anglo-Brazilian Amazonian climate observation study) operates in the states of Amazonas, Para and Rondonia. The British Institute of Hydrology (IH) is Project Manager, and INPE (Space Research Institute), is the lead Brazilian collaborating institute. together with INPA (National Research Institute for Amazonia) and CENA (Centre for Nuclear Energy in Agriculture). The project is a study of the impact of deforestation on climate. The objective is to improve the accuracy and credibility of general circulation model (GCM) predictions of the climatic consequences of Amazonian deforestation by addressing the land/ atmosphere interaction and the difference in near surface climate associated with forest clearance. The project follows the pioneering work of IH and INPE in the mid-1980s and involves the establishment of four field measuring stations in Amazonas, Para and Rondonia. The Amazonas sites were established in 1990, and the other two set up during 1991. Brazilian scientists take field readings throughout the year, and British scientists participate in periodic intensive field missions. The project was agreed in March 1990 and the first field mission was in September-November 1990. The total cost of the project to ODA is £2·9 million over five years, including the £0·5 million of specialist equipment.2. Caxiuana research station project, Para state has the Museu Paraense Emilio Goeldi as project manager. The project involves the establishment of a new biological research station in the Caxivana national forest, with appropriate infrastructure and facilities. We are providing financial support for local construction costs, transport (vehicles and boats) and laboratory equipment, and technical assistance (mainly short-term inputs, plus one full-time expert). The project will provide a well-equipped research station in an undisturbed forest area rich in biodiversity. It should become one of the leading facilities for rainforest research anywhere in the tropics. Construction commenced in February 1992. The cost to ODA is £1·28 million over three years.3. The aromatic plants development project, Para state has the British Natural Resources Institute (NRI) and Museu Goeldi as joint project managers. FCAP (facility of agricultural science of the university of Para) is also collaborating. The project is an evaluation of the economic potential of the aromatic plants of the state of Para, through a study of indigenous aromatic plants and two applied research programmes concerned with the development potential of rosewood and the aromatic herbs of the piper genus. The project involves a series of short-term consultancies and a programme of plant collection and analysis in Brazil and Britain. Field collections and trials are under way and a natural products laboratory built and equipped. The cost to ODA is £0·6 million over three years, starting in 1991.4. The floodplain forest ecology and management project, near Belem, Para state has the Museu Goeldi as project manager. The project consists of biological studies of the ecology, natural regeneration and flora of flooded forest, economic studies of farm/forest production systems and an extension programme based at Combu island near Belem. The cost to ODA is £0·24 million over two years, from 1991.5. The Tocantins forestry and rural development project, Para state aims to conserve the forest in the Brazil nut zone around Maraba through improving the farming systems and living conditions of small farmers. The project will develop ways of improving agricultural productivity and stability through the introduction of agroforestry, tree crops and better marketing systems. Ways of managing and conserving the remaining forest will also be investigated. IDESP (Institute of Socio-Economic Development of Para state) is project manager but field implementation is in the hands of the Tocantins agroenvironmental centre, a local NGO which brings together small farmers from the Maraba area together with researchers from the university of Para. The project was approved in September 1991. The ODA contribution amounts to £1·1 million over three years and consists of technical assistance, training material and equipment.6. Forest biomass and nutrients research project, Manaus, Amazonas state with INPA (National Research Institute for Amazonia) and NRI as project managers. The proposal involves research on the distribution and dynamics of biomass and minerals in tropical forest. The cost to ODA is £1·74 million over three years, starting this year.7. The central Amazonia flora and vegetation project, near Manaus, Amazonas state. The project has been designed by INPA and the royal botanic gardens, Kew. It consists of botanical collections, taxonomic studies, the production of a guide to the flora of the Ducke reserve near Manaus, and vegetation-type mapping in central Amazonia. The cost to ODA is £0·57 million over three years, starting this year.8. Rainforest silviculture research project, CPATU. The eastern Amazonia agroforestry research centre of the Brazilian Agricultural Research Institute (CPATUEMBRAPA), Belem, is managing this project. The five year programme of studies on forest growth, production and regeneration, timber extraction techniques and genetic resource conservation is aimed at improving forest management. The ODA contribution will consist primarily of training and provision of technical assistance in tropical forest research, and will cost £2·2 million over five years starting this year.9. Tapajos national forest management project. We are providing £0·85 million through the International Tropical Timber Organisation to support IBAMA (the Federal Environment Institute) to set up a system of sustainable logging practices in a 5,000 hectare area of the Tapajos national forest. Commercial logging will take place under licence to IBAMA. The project aims to provide a model of sustainable logging for Brazil. The project will be managed by the ITTO; ODA will be represented on a project steering committee. The project was agreed in April 1992, and will last five years.10. Implementation of the Lake Mamiraua ecological station, near Tefe, Amazonas state. The project involves protection and development of a management plan for 200,000 hectares of flooded forest within a recently established state ecological station. It aims to establish a programme that integrates the conservation of biodiversity with the livelihood of local people living within the protected area. Estimated cost to ODA is £1·6 million over three years. The project is also being funded by the World Wide Fund for Nature and World Conservation International. It is expected to begin shortly.

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what instructions have been passed to the British executive director at the African Development bank regarding that organisation's planned publication of a forestry policy.

We have encouraged the bank for some time to establish and publish its forestry policy. We are currently considering the draft proposals which we have just received.

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what discussions he had with Senhor Sydney Possuelo, the head of Brazil's Indian Agency, about the illegal mahogany trade with Britain.

African Development Bank

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how many staff are employed in the United Kingdom's executive director's office at the African Development bank in Abidjan; and if he will give details of their duties.

The United Kingdom shares a constituency with Germany, the Netherlands and Portugal. The executive director is assisted by an alternate executive director—who is part time—an adviser and an assistant. The board of directors considers all lending proposals and a wide range of policy documents. Details of its work are set out in the bank's annual report, which is available in the Libraries of the House.

Education Partners Overseas

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs when he intends to announce a decision concerning the submission for grant aid made by Education Partners Overseas; and if he will make a statement.

The application from Education Partners Overseas will be considered, along with other claims, early next year when we consider the allocation of our information budget for the coming financial year.

Trade And Industry

Pit Closures

To ask the President of the Board of Trade what is the per capita expenditure to be borne by the Exchequer, involved in redundancy payments for the closure proposals announced by British Coal in October; and to what extent such payments are subject to the approval of the EC.

The British Coal redundancy terms give maximum payments of £37,000 per employee. The Exchequer funds 90 per cent. of such payments direct to the corporation through restructuring grant. Restructuring grant payments have European Community approval and are notified annually to the Commission.

To ask the President of the Board of Trade if he will place in the Library a copy of the report by John T. Boyd, the American mining consultant, commissioned by his Department; how many of the 31 pits earmarked for closure by British Coal the report indicated could become viable within the next three to four years; and if he will make a statement.

[holding answer 4 December 1992]:: No. I have made arrangements for the report to be made available to the Select Committee in confidence. The Boyd report prepared for my Department earlier this year contains detailed information on individual pits which is commercially confidential. It did not assess the viability of individual collieries, but looked at the scope for productivity improvements and cost reductions in a group of representative collieries.

Offshore Installations

To ask the President of the Board of Trade what action he is taking to ensure that the Welsh marine environment is not damaged by spills from drilling rigs.

It is our general and established policy, before offering blocks for licence in any part of the United Kingdom continental shelf, to consult relevant statutory and non-statutory bodies and to attach licence conditions agreed with such bodies which reflect each block's sensitivities. Environmental conditions are agreed principally with the Joint Nature Conservation Committee, but the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, the Department of the Environment, and fishing industry representatives are also consulted. Conditions may include, for example, bans on drilling in specified areas, seasonal restrictions on exploration activities, requirements to carry out environmental and seabed surveys, bans on the use of oil-based drilling muds, and controls or bans on discharges from drilling rigs.In the block off the north Wales coast where drilling is currently in progress, environmental and local seabed surveys were carried out before drilling started. Water-based muds are being used, and cuttings may be discharged to the sea since tidal conditions in the area ensure their rapid dispersal. No other rig discharges are permitted; nor are any fuel transfers while the rig is on site.

To ask the President of the Board of Trade if he will make it his policy to halt all further exploratory drilling for hydrocarbons off the Welsh coast until the promised energy review takes place.

The purpose of exploration drilling is to search for and identify deposits of hydrocarbons. Oil and gas production continues to make a significant contribution to the United Kingdom economy because new reserves have been identified to replenish supplies as early reserves have become depleted. The longer we can sustain economic indigenous oil and gas production, the better for the United Kingdom economy.Additional approvals are required before a deposit identified from exploration drilling and found on further appraisal to be of commercial value can be developed for production. A find from current drilling off the Welsh coast would be unlikely to come into production before the end of the century. There is therefore no case for halting exploration drilling.

Civil Servants

To ask the President of the Board of Trade how many civil servants from his Department have been relocated from London to other parts of the United Kingdom (a) in the last five years and (b) in the last 10 years; and if he will list the locations to which those civil servants were relocated.

The table shows the number of Department of Trade and Industry posts which have relocated from London:

LocationNumber
(a) Since January 1988
Birmingham135
Billingham53
Cambridge33
Edinburgh5
Newport984
Cardiff24
Teddington340
(b) During the period 1983 to 1987 Teddington49

Iaea

To ask the President of the Board of Trade what extra-budgetary contributions to meet particular needs of the International Atomic Energy Agency for safeguards equipment have been made by the Government in the last five years.

There has been one such contribution, a payment of £200,000 in 1991–92.

Bureaucracy

To ask the President of the Board of Trade what benefits for consumers he expects to arise as a result of his proposals to remove unnecessary bureaucracy in Government Departments.

The aim of the deregulation initiative is to reduce significantly administrative and regulatory burdens on business. The removal of unnecessary regulation and administrative procedure and simplification of that which remains will allow businesses more time and freedom to respond to their customers' needs. This, together with the beneficial effect on prices and public borrowing as a result of lower compliance and enforcement costs, will benefit consumers as well as business.

Wind Farms

To ask the President of the Board of Trade how many megawatts were generated by wind farms in Great Britain in each year since 1989; and if he will make a statement about the future of wind energy generation in Great Britain.

Figures for electricity generation from renewable sources of energy are now published annually in the "Digest of United Kingdom Energy Statistics". The first wind farms to be constructed in Great Britain have all become operational since the beginning of 1992 and have so far generated an estimated 17 GW hours of electricity. These figures are expected to increase rapidly as wind farms constructed under the non-fossil fuel obligation orders come on stream.

Blank Tapes

To ask the President of the Board of Trade what representations he has received on the imposition of levies on blank tapes for the music industry.

The Government have received numerous representations for and against the proposal that a levy should be put on blank recording tape to compensate copyright owners for private copying. Representations were particularly numerous during the passage of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, when the Government decided not to introduce such a levy, and many further representations have been received since the European Commission announced in January 1991 its intention to propose a draft directive on private copying. Bodies that have made representations include the Royal National Institute for the Blind, The Talking Newspaper Association of the United Kingdom, the Music Copyright Reform Group, the British Phonographic Industry, the Home Taping Rights Campaign and the British Copyright Council.

Japanese Energy Minister

To ask the President of the Board of Trade when the Minister for Energy in his Department last met with his Japanese counterpart in Japan; and what specific matters were discussed and decided.

I visited Japan from 11 to 13 November 1992 and met members of the Government and heads of Japanese energy utilities. Discussions focused on the bilateral energy relationship in offshore oil and gas, nuclear and energy policy areas. I also lent my support to British companies at an Offshore Supplies Office technology seminar where I gave the keynote address.

Nuclear Materials

To ask the President of the Board of Trade what decisions were taken at the recent review conference of the convention on the physical protection of nuclear materials that affect United Kingdom policy; and what representation his Department had at the reveiw conference.

I refer the hon. Lady to the answer I gave to the Member for Blaenau Gwent (Mr. Smith) on 5 November 1992, Official Report, column 400. The United Kingdom was represented at the review conference by officials from my Department and the nuclear industry.

To ask the President of the Board of Trade what are the arrangements for liaison between his Department and the safeguards authorities at (a) Euratom and (b) the International Atomic Energy Agency over provision of data on the movements into and out of the United Kingdom of (i) plutonium, (ii) enriched uranium, (iii) natural uranium and (iv) spent nuclear fuel, respectively.

The Department forwards to the Euratom safeguards directorate reports submitted in accordance with Euratom regulation 3227/76 on transfers of civil nuclear material. These reports include those materials referred to in the question. In accordance with the UK/IAEA/Euratom safeguards agreement—INFCIRC/263—relevant information is then passed to the IAEA by Euratom.

Insolvency

To ask the President of the Board of Trade what assessment he has made of the effect of the level of fees charged by insolvency staff for the administration of insolvency services on the interests of creditors; what controls exist to ensure that insolvency companies do not charge excessively for their services; and what plans he has to introduce legislation to impose limits on the fees that accountancy firms can claim.

Fees charged by insolvency staff employed by accountancy firms are not under the control of the President and accordingly he does not have a role in determining their level or assessing whether they are appropriate in the circumstances of any particular case.In receiverships, the level of remuneration is agreed by the secured creditor making the appointment. In liquidations, fees charged are subject to approval by the creditors who have a financial interest in ensuring that they are fixed at a reasonable level. The means by which they approve them are either through a committee of creditors or in general meeting. In the absence of such approval, remuneration will be paid on the scale laid down for the Official Receiver in general regulations. Where either the liquidator or the creditors are dissatisfied with the level of remuneration, recourse may be had to the court.There are no proposals to impose limits on the fees that accountancy firms can claim.

Manufacturing Output

To ask the President of the Board of Trade whether he will set out the figures for manufacturing output for the last three available quarters; and if he will make a statement.

[holding answer 2 December 1992]: As an index, with 1985 = 100, manufacturing output was 111 in the first quarter of 1992, 111·5 in the second quarter and 111·4 in the third quarter. In the first three quarters of 1992, manufacturing output was over a fifth higher than in 1981, the trough of the last recession.

Natural Gas

To ask the President of the Board of Trade what are the present proven reserves of British natural gas expressed in years remaining calculated (a) at 1990 consumption rates, (b) forecast consumption rates for 2000 and (c) forecast consumption rates for 2020, as forecast in DTI Energy Paper 59, October 1992.

[holding answer 4 December 1992]: My Department's most recent estimate of the United Kingdom's proven reserves stood at 540 billion cu m1. The total consumption of gas onshore in the United Kingdom during 1990 amounted to 53 billion cu m of gas, which included approximately 7 billion cu m of imported gas2.These proven gas reserves are the known reserves in existing discoveries regarded as almost certain to be technically and economically producible following extensive appraisal work. Proven reserves represent some 30 per cent. of all discovered recoverable reserves. In addition, it is likely that further reserves will be proven to be recoverable from significant discoveries made but so far poorly appraised and from geologically identified prospects which have yet to be tested by drilling. It is not normal practice for the gas industry to carry out the expensive exploration and appraisal work required to add to the stock of proven reserves far in advance of production.My right hon. Friend the President of the Board of Trade announced on 26 October that the coal review would look into the latest estimates of likely reserves of gas and draw conclusions.Energy Paper 59 presented some possible gas consumption scenarios in the context of a discussion of energy and the environment, in particular, climate change.These are scenarios, not forecasts by my Department.

1 Source: The April 1992 report to Parliament "Development of the oil and gas resources of the United Kingdom" (The Brown Book).

2 Source: The April 1991 report to Parliament "Development of the oil and gas resources of the United Kingdom".

Severn Bridge

To ask the President of the Board of Trade for what reason British Steel was not invited to quote for the basic plate material supply of the second Severn bridge crossing.

I have been asked to reply.The letting of contracts relating to the second Severn crossing is entirely a matter for the concessionaire for the project, Severn River Crossing plc, and its contractor for the design and construction of the new bridge, the John Laing-GTM Entrepose joint venture.

Trentham Colliery

To ask the President of the Board of Trade if he will require British Coal to pay in full (a) attendance bonuses and (b) conciliation bonuses in respect of employees at Trentham colliery who are attending for work.

Northern Ireland

Social Fund

To ask the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will increase the budgetary allocation in respect of the social fund to the Belfast, South and Down district section of the Social Security Agency to meet underfunding in this area; and if he will make a statement.

Responsibility for the subject in question has been delegated to the Social Security Agency under its chief executive Mr. Alec Wylie. I have asked him to arrange for a reply to be given.

Letter from Alec Wylie to Mr. Eddie McGrady, dated 3 December 1992:

Your recent Parliamentary Question asking the Secretary of State for an increase in the budget allocation in respect of Social Fund for the Belfast South and Down District of the Social Security Agency has been passed to me for reply as I am responsible for the Social Security Agency.

I should explain that Social Fund budget allocations are made at the beginning of the financial year in accordance with a formula which is applied to all Social Security Offices. While the position is monitored throughout the year additional allocations are normally only made when there has been a higher than expected level of loan recoveries or an unforseen demand on the Social Fund, for example, as a result of flooding or a bomb explosion.

The procedure has already led to two additional allocations to the Belfast South and Down District this year, £50,630 in October and £34,000 in November. As a result the District's total allocation has increased to £2,219,689, (£1,452,114 for Crisis and Budget Loans and £767,575 for Community Care Grants). At present it is not planned to make any further allocations but the situation will be kept under review.

I hope this explanation is helpful but I shall write to you again if the position changes. A copy of this reply will appear in the Official Report and copies will be placed in the Library.

Schools (Funding)

To ask the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will make it his policy that all maintained schools, including those denominational schools not in receipt of funding from the Department of Education in Northern Ireland, will in future receive funding on the same basis.

All maintained schools and all controlled schools in any education and library board area receive funding on the same basis, that being the formula set out in the board's scheme for the local management of schools. Denominational schools not in receipt of funding from the Department of Education are independent schools which receive no resourcing from any public sector source, and I have no plans to change current policy in their regard.

Water

To ask the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what is the estimated percentage of water lost in the supply system for water in Northern Ireland.

To ask the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will list the names of the chairmen and members of the Northern Ireland water authority, and the date of their appointments.

The Department of the Environment for Northern Ireland is the water authority. It does not have a chairman.

To ask the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what plans he has to measure supply of water to domestic customers by meters; and if he will make a statement.

To ask the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (1) what is the estimated value of environmental sites and recreational amenities in the ownership of the Northern Ireland water authority;(2) what is the estimated capital value of the water industry in Northern Ireland both for water and sewerage/sewage disposal.

There is no separate water authority in Northern Ireland. Responsibility for water and sewerage services rests with the Department of the Environment for Northern Ireland through its water service. The service is subject to normal Government accounting systems which do not require the value of assets to be shown in a commercial manner as would be the case under a commercial accounting system. Separate information on the value of assets is not therefore available.

Schools (Disciplinary Proceedings)

To ask the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what role his Department has in any disciplinary proceedings in locally or directly managed schools.

Responsibility for the disciplinary proceedings in schools in Northern Ireland rests with boards of governors and/or employing authorities, depending on the particular circumstances, and does not involve my Department.

Social Security

Stratford Local Office

To ask the Secretary of State for Social Security what steps have been taken to restructure the Stratford Benefits Agency office, Jubilee house; and on what date the work will be completed.

The planning for the restructuring or refurbishment of local DSS offices is a matter for Mr. Michael Bichard, the chief executive of the Benefits Agency. He will write to the hon. Member and a copy will be placed in the Library.

Letter from Michael Bichard to Mr. Ron Leighton, dated 4 December 1992:

As Chief Executive of the Benefits Agency, it is my responsibility to answer questions about relevant operational matters. I am therefore replying to the points raised in your Parliamentary Question to the Secretary of State for Social Security asking what steps have been taken to restructure the Benefits Agency Office at Jubilee House, Stratford, and on what date the work will be completed.

Following on from a feasibility study undertaken by the Property Services Agency and in view of the current workloads and operational needs of the office, proposals have been made to refurbish the customer area in Jubilee House rather than to completely restructure the whole building. Plans are already in hand and it is envisaged that, once full consultation has taken place, work should be complete by summer 1993.

I hope you find this reply helpful. A copy will appear in the Official Report. Copies are also being placed in the Library.

Benefits

To ask the Secretary of State for Social Security if he will list the social security benefits (i) which have been abolished since 1979, (ii) which have not maintained their real value, in 1992 prices, since 1979 or the date at which they were introduced and (iii) whose availability has been restricted.

The information is as follows:(i) Social Security benefits abolished since 1979:(a) Benefits replaced by reformed schemes

  • Attendance Allowance (only for those disabled before age 65)
  • Community Charge Rebate (Scotland)
  • Death Grant
  • Family Income Supplement
  • Housing Benefit Supplement and old Housing Benefit scheme
  • Industrial Injury Benefit
  • Maternity Grant
  • Mobility Allowance
  • NCIP an HNCIP (non-contributory invalidity pension and housewives' NCIP)
  • Rate Rebate
  • Special Hardship Allowance
  • Supplementary Benefit
  • Widow's Allowance

(b) Others (cases which existed at the time of abolition remain in payment)

  • Child's Special Allowance
  • Industrial Death Benefit
  • Reduced Earnings Allowance

(ii) Benefits which have not maintained their real value since 1979* (or the date of their introduction, if later):

  • Age addition (for those aged 80 and over)
  • Christmas Bonus
  • Maternity Allowance
  • Sickness Benefit
  • Statutory Sick Pay, higher rate
  • Child Benefit (when revalued from rate current in April 1979)

* Benefits uprated in November 1978, except for child benefit which was uprated in April 1979, have been revalued to April 1992 prices and compared with the equivalent benefit rates on that date.

(iii) Benefits whose availability has been restricted since 1979, or since the benefit's introduction. The list includes changes in entitlement conditions of a relatively minor nature.

  • Housing Benefit
  • Income Support
  • Industrial Disablement Benefit
  • Maternity Allowance
  • Sickness Benefit
  • Unemployment Benefit
  • Widowed Mother's Allowance
  • Widow's Pension

Housing Benefit

To ask the Secretary of State for Social Security (1) if he will reconsider his decision not to award rent allowances to claimants whose landlord is a close relative;(2) what is the definition of close relative for the purpose of eligibility for rent allowances;(3) if he will estimate the number of

(a) young people and (b) adults who have moved out of accommodation where the landlord is a close relative, because of non-eligibility for housing benefit, over the last two years; and if he will make a statement.

Housing benefit is payable only in respect of a commercial rent liability. Most people living with close relatives do not have a rent liability, but instead made contributions to the household's living costs. It has never been the Government's intention that housing benefit should be payable for such contributions because there is no commercial liability. In this context a close relative is defined in regulations as a parent, parent-in-law, step-parent, child, step-child, child-in-law, brother, sister or the partner of any of the preceding persons. Information about the numbers of people unable to live with their close relatives because of the non-payment of housing benefit could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

Civil Servants

To ask the Secretary of State for Social Security how many civil servants from his Department have been relocated from London to other parts of the United Kingdom (a) in the last five years and (b) in the last 10 years; and to where they were relocated.

The information is in the table and is in terms of posts relocated rather than individual civil servants. It has not been possible in all cases to identify separately posts relocating from London as opposed to the south-east as a whole and this is particularly so for the period before 1988. The information does not take account of the large numbers of new posts that the Department has created in areas away from London and the south-east.

Posts relocated from London in the last five years
DestinationNumber
Wigan320
Lytham1243
Newcastle300
Leeds458
Glasgow560
Belfast421
Total2,302
1 It is not possible to identify separately London posts within this number.

Posts relocated between 1982 and 1987

Around 420 posts were relocated from London and the south-east to Newcastle, the North Fylde area and Southampton in this period. Only the posts that moved to Southampton, around 60, can be clearly identified as from London iteself.

Young Persons (Benefits)

To ask the Secretary of State for Social Security if he will review his policy of refusing benefit to 16 and 17-year-olds without hostel accommodation.

There is no such policy. Housing benefit can be paid to 16 and 17-year-olds who have a commercial rent liability. Income support is available to 16 and 17-year-olds not required to be available for work or youth training and also to those at risk of severe hardship. Other benefits may be available subject to the young person meeting the qualifying conditions.

Dependency Regulations

To ask the Secretary of State for Social Security if he will make a statement on the Social Security (Dependency) Amendment Regulations 1992; and why it was decided to bring them into operation the day after they were laid before Parliament.

The Social Security (Dependency) Amendment Regulations 1992 remake the regulations which provide the earnings rules for increases of retirement pension and other benefits for adult dependants. The intention of the earnings rules is to reduce or remove the dependency increase if the dependant has earnings, including any occupational pension, above a certain level. In 1987, a social security commissioner decided that occupational pensions could be taken into account only if the dependant was working. That was never the intention and amendments to the Social Security Act in 1988 were thought to have restored the position so that all occupational pensions could be taken into account, whether the dependant was working or not. However, in a judgment given on 2 December 1992 the Court of Appeal ruled that the amendments to the Act did not automatically carry through to the subordinate regulations. Consequently it remained the case that occupational pensions could only be taken into account if the dependant was working. However, the court's judgment also meant that all that was required for the earnings rules to apply in the way intended was to introduce fresh regulations. In view of this, and in order to keep the additional expenditure as a result of the judgment to a minimum, it was decided to bring the new regulations into force without waiting for the usual 21 days after they were laid.

Income Statistics

To ask the Secretary of State for Social Security if he will publish a table showing changes in real income between 1979 and 1988–89 before and after housing costs for the top five deciles on a similar basis to table A.1 in "Households Below Average Income: a statistical analysis 1979–1988–89".

I refer the hon. Member to my reply to the hon. Member for Bradford, West (Mr. Madden) on 2 November, at column 100.