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Written Answers

Volume 426: debated on Monday 18 January 1982

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Written Answers

Mr Michael Waight

asked Her Majesty's Government:Over what periods and in what prisons Mr. Michael Waight, now a prisoner in Bristol prison, has been segregated under Rule 43 since the beginning of 1978.

The periods and prisons at which Mr. Waight has been segregated under Prison Rule 43 are as follows:

Ashford remand centre8th–24th April 1978
Wormwood Scrubs prison23rd June–20th September 1978
Durham prison8th October–24th November 1978
Wakefield prison24th November 1978–19th February 1979
Hull prison29th November 1979–16th January 1980
Leeds prison16th January–14th April 1980
Manchester prison14th April–25th June 1980
Winchester prison22nd January–19th February 1981
Long Lartin prison17th August–1st September 1981
Birmingham prisonlst–29th September 1981
Winchester prison8th October–4th November 1981
Bristol prison4th November–17th December 1981

Mr Peter Seale

asked Her Majesty's Government:Over what periods and in what prisons Mr. Peter Seale, now a prisoner in Wandsworth, has been segregated under Rule 43 in the interests of good order and discipline since the beginning of 1978.

The periods and prisons in which Mr. Seale has been segregated under Prison Rule 43 are as follows:

Long Lartin5th March–2nd May 1978
Durham2nd–19th May 1978
Gartree28th May–2nd June 1978
Albany14th–22nd November 1978 and 1st–24th February 1979
Winchester24th February–11th April 1979
Leeds19th April–21st May 1979
Durham22nd August–27th September 1979
Wormwood Scrubs20th November 1979–15th February 1980 and 10th July–11th August 1980
Wandsworth11th August–8th September 1980
Wormwood Scrubs8th–10th September 1980
Wandsworth10th September–7th October 1980
Wormwood Scrubs7th October 1980–17th January 1981
Gartree19th–20th November 1981
Leicester20th–27th November 1981
Wandsworth27th November 1981–to date.

Immigrants: Custody Under Dual Authority

asked Her Majesty's Government:Whether they recall that on 17th May 1979 the Minister of State at the Home Office, Mr. Timothy Raison, wrote:

" Owing to the wording of Section 67(1) of the Criminal Justice Act 1967, time spent in custody under the dual authority of a detention order under the Immigration Act 1971 and an order of court remanding a person in custody does not automatically count towards any later sentence the court may impose. In our view this is anomalous, and the point has been noted for amending legislation ";

and why this matter has not been dealt with in the Criminal Justice Bill now before Parliament.

My honourable friend the Minister of State has written to the noble Lord indicating that the Government are preparing an amendment to the Criminal Justice Bill to remove this anomaly.

Juveniles In Custody

asked Her Majesty's Government:

  • (i) on how many occasions during the last two years the Secretary of State has consented to applications being made by local authorities to the juvenile court under Section 31 of the Children and Young Persons Act 1969 for 15 and 16 year-olds in their care in community homes to be accommodated in borstal institutions;
  • (ii) how many 15 and 16 year-olds who are at present in borstals have not been found guilty of an offence.
  • My right honourable friend the Secretary of State for Social Services informs me that since the beginning of 1980 he has not consented to any applications made under Section 31 of the Children and Young Persons Act 1969. My records for 31st October 1981 do not show any 15 or 16 year-olds in borstals who had not been found guilty of an offence.

    Adopted Children

    asked Her Majesty's Government:Whether they will vary the procedure for collecting immigration statistics centrally so as to be able to identify the numbers of adopted children.

    asked Her Majesty's Government:Why they do not normally keep records of the exercise by the Secretary of State for the Home Department of his discretion to admit a child with a view to his or her adoption here; and whether they will do so with effect from 1st January 1982.

    Records of individual cases are kept, but a central statistical record of the numbers is not maintained and the Government have no plans to establish one.

    Trident Project: Cost

    asked Her Majesty's Government:What assumption is made about the cost of the Trident project when the statement is made that it represents an expenditure of 3 per cent. of total defence costs over 15 years; and what proportion of estimated costs of actual defence equipment over the same period is represented by this assumed Trident cost.

    The Government's memorandum The Future United Kingdom Strategic Nuclear Deterrent Force, published on 15th July 1980, stated that in broad terms the likely order of capital cost for a four boat Trident force would be about £4½—£5 billion spread over some 15 years; that this might absorb, on average, some 3 per cent. of total defence budgets between 1980 and 1995; and that the equipment element might absorb 5 per cent. of the equipment component of defence budgets over that period. In subsequent oral evidence to the House of Commons Defence Committee and a pursuant Supplementary Memorandum [Q1513—Q1521 (D7 1980/81) and HCDC 129/27 of the fourth report from the Defence Committee, Session 1980/81 (HC 36)] the Secretary of State for Defence explained that Trident was now likely to absorb 5 to 6 per cent. of likely equipment budgets over the 15-year period and the reasons for this change.

    Cumbria And Lake District Joint Structure Plan

    asked Her Majesty's Government:Why they intend to delete from the Cumbria and Lake District Joint Structure Plan reference to the Lake District Special Planning Board's policy for limiting the occupation of new houses to people who are employed locally, retired from local employment, or about to be employed locally, and whether they agree that such a policy is essential for rural areas that have suffered a change from a permanently to temporarily resident population if they are not to suffer from further depopulation, further decline in local services and the destruction of local communities.

    My right honourable friend the Secretary of State for the Environment proposed the deletion of this policy from the structure plan because, while he sympathised with the planning board's wish to ensure that sufficient housing is made available for people who live and work in the area, he considered it would be an unreasonable use of planning powers to attempt to ensure that houses should only be occupied by such people.

    The planning board have objected to the proposed deletion and their representations, together with those of other parties, will be considered carefully before a decision is taken on the structure plan. In advance of this decision it would be inappropriate to indicate whether such a policy has any general application, though my right honourable friend is well aware of the problems faced by other rural communities.

    Khmer Rouge (Pol Pot): Provision Of Arms

    asked Her Majesty's Government:Whether, in view of the division on this proposal among Asian nations they have reached a decision on providing arms to Khmer Rouge (Pol Pot) forces in Kampuchia if an opposition coalition is formed; and what will be their advice to their allies in the West.

    We are not aware of any proposal to provide arms to Khmer Rouge (Pol Pot) forces in Cambodia.House adjourned at ten o'clock.