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Written Answers

Volume 443: debated on Thursday 21 July 1983

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Written Answers

Crown Common, Plynlimon: Fencing

asked Her Majesty's Government:What would be the approximate cost to public funds of agricultural subsidies for fencing, improvement and other operations on the Crown Estate common near Plynlimon were they to give approval for the fencing proposals that are now awaiting a decision by the Secretary of State for Wales.

The planting, fencing and land improvements proposed by the Crown Estate Commissioner could, if carried out in full, result in grant of the order of £50,000. My right honourable friend the Secretary of State for Wales has personally visited the site and his decision on the fencing proposals will be made shortly.

"Home Defence And The Farmer"

Home Defence and the Farmer, published by the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food in 1958, is the most up-to-date information currently available for farmers about the action they should take in the event of a nuclear war, and whether copies of this booklet are readily available to farmers in this country, and if not, why not.

The most recent edition of Home Defence and the Farmer was published in 1962, and this is now out of print. An updated version is being prepared but no date can yet be given for its publication.

Northern Ireland: The Ramsar Convention

asked Her Majesty's Government:Whether they will list those sites in Northern Ireland that have been listed under the "Ramsar Convention", what further areas are under consideration for listing, and when formal listing of these sites can be expected.

Lough Neagh and the adjacent Lough Beg have been listed as a United Kingdom wetlands site of international importance under the Ramsar Convention. Strangford Lough and Lough Foyle are under consideration for listing, but it is not possible to indicate when this might be achieved.

Police Cells: Access By Journalists

asked her Majesty's Government:Why they refuse access to journalists to police cells where remand prisoners are held.

Access by journalists to police cells in the Metropolitan Police District is a matter for the commissioner, but I understand that arrangements for a visit are in hand.

Ministerial Salaries

asked Her Majesty's Government:Whether they will make a statement about ministerial salaries in the light of the outcome of the debate in the House of Commons on 19th July.

OfficeCurrent Salary†TSRB‡Recommend℅IncJuly 83 Salary℅IncJan. 84 Salary℅IncJan. 85 Salary℅IncJan. 86 salary℅IncJan. 87 salary℅IncJan. 87 ℅Inc Over current
Prime Minister46,66065,00039·348,5304·051,05053,60056,12058,65025·7
Lord Chancellor¶52,50062,00018·158,50011·462,0006·0————
Mr. Speaker38,78555,00041·840,3404·042,44044,56046,65048,75025·7
Cabinet Minister (C)37,41055,00047·038,9104·040,93042,98045,00047,00025·7
Cabinet Minister (L)28,95049,50071·030,1104·031,68033,26034,82036,39025·7
Minister of Sate (C)29,03538,00030·030,4104·731,99033,59034,17036,75026·6
Minister of Sate (C)24,20032,50034·325,3504·726,67028,00029,32030,64026·6
Parl. Secretary (C)24,16031,00028·325,4605·426,78028,12029,40030,76027·3
Parl. Secretary (L)19,35025,50031·820,3905·421,45022,52023,58024,64027·3
Attorney General39,16055,00040·440,7304·042,85044,99047,10049,22025·7
Solicitor General33,81044,00030·135,1604·036,99038,84040,67042,50025·7
Lord Advocate (C)29,00038,50032·830,1604·031,73033,32034,89036,46025·7
Solicitor General for Scotland30,21038,00025·331,4204·033,05034,70036,33037,96025·7
In the House of Commons
Leader of the Opposition35,03550,00042·736,4904·238,39040,31044,20044,10025·9
Chief Whip32,61042,00028·834,0304·435,80037,59039,36041,13026·1
Dep. Chief Whip29,03538,00030·30,4104·731,99033,59035,17036,75026·6
Opposition Chief Whip29,03538,00030·930,4104·731,99033,59035,17036,75026·6
Government Whip21,73528,00028·822,9105·424,10025,31026,50027,69027·4
Assistant Opposition Whip21,73528,00028·822,9105·424,10025,31026,50027,69027·4
Chairman. Ways and Means29,03538,00030·930,4104·731,99033,59035,17036,75026·6
Dep. Chairman Ways and means26,58534,50029·827,9205·029,37030,84032,29033,74026·9
In the House of Lords
Chief Whip24,20032,50034·325,3504·726,67028,00029,32030,64026·6
Dep. Chief Whip19,35025,50031·820,3905·421,45022,52023,58024,64027·3
Government Whip16,92522,50032·917,8405·418,77019,71020,64021,57027·4
Leader of the Opposition (L)19,35025,50031·820,3905·421,45022,52023,58024,64027·3
Opposition Chief Whip16,92522,50032·917,8405·418,77019,71020,64021,57027·4
Chairman of Committees24,20032,50034·25,3504·726,67028,00029,32030,64026·6
Prin. Dep. Chairman of Committees21,75029,00033·322,7804·723,96025,16026,34027,53026·6
Members of Parliament14,51019,00030·915,3085·516,1065·216,9045·017,7024·718,5004·327·5
†Includes Parliamentary salary of £8,460 where appropriate.
‡Includes Parliamentary salary of £11,000 where appropriate.
¶from 1st January 1985 to 1st January 1987 the Lord Chancellor's notional salary will be set at level £2,000 above that of the Lord Chief Justice.

Remand Prisoners Held In Police Cells

asked Her Majesty's Government:How many remand prisoners who would ordinarily have been detained in prisons within the London area had to be accommodated in police cells during June; how many of these were outside the Metropolitan area, and whether they will give the locations and the numbers in each;what

In the light of the opinion of the House of Commons on 19th July on MPs' pay, the Government Consider that Ministers' and other office holders' salaries should be established for the period up to the end of 1987. The table below sets out the Government's proposals. The salaries shown are those to which office holders are entitled; some individuals draw less. At 1st January 1984, 1st January 1985, 1st January 1986 and 1st January 1987 the percentage increases will be the same as for MPs, as shown in the table below.The additional cost of implementing these proposals is estimated at £0.14 million in 1983–84, £0·22 million in 1984–85, £0·17 million in 1985–86 and £0·17 million in 1986–87. For 1983–84 these costs will be contained within the provision for total public expenditure in the latest public expenditure White Paper (Cmnd. 8789).arrangements they have made for solicitors' and family visits to the prisoners concerned, and whether the Chief Inspector of Prisons or any other independent person has the duty of monitoring the conditions under which they are being held to ensure that they approximate to the European Standards; andWhat is the longest period for which any remand prisoner has been held in police custody.

The only readily available information relates to the number of prisoners recorded as held overnight in police custody from London and the South East, as follows:

JuneMetropolitan PoliceOther Forces
1201185
2189184
3–5213195
6230202
7210218
8196232
9199235
10–12208244
13213259
14221255
15207257
16196270
17–19180238
20171237
21158242
22149231
23128212
24–26131204
27110208
28132200
29147179
30132171

The other forces comprise the Surrey, Sussex, Essex, Hertfordshire, Thames Valley, Kent, Hampshire, Cambridgeshire, Suffolk, Northamptonshire, Bedfordshire, Warwickshire and City of London Police.

Information about the total number of prisoners concerned, the location in which and the period for which each was held could only be obtained at disproportionate cost. However prisoners are not normally held in police custody for more than a few days at a time. The facilities for visits, both legal and family, vary from one location to another. It is for individual police forces to determine what visits are possible.

Police and court cells are not part of the prison system and are not subject to inspection by H M Chief Inspector of Prisons, but the police are supported in doing a very difficult job by a liaison Assistant Governor from the Prison Service who regularly visits all the locations where prisoners are held.