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Written Answers

Volume 587: debated on Monday 9 March 1998

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Written Answers

Monday, 9th March 1998.

Birth Control Trust

asked Her Majesty's Government:What is the total amount of money they have given to the Birth Control Trust since the organisation was founded. [HL710]

Her Majesty's Government have not given any direct funding to the trust but on occasion the trust has been involved in the activities of other organisations which have received government funding.

Firearms Acts: Home Office Circulars And Correspondence

asked Her Majesty's Government:Whether they will place in the Library of the House the index for each of the last 10 years of all Home Office letters or documents circulated to chief officers of police relevant to the administration of the Firearms Act 1968 and subsequent Firearms Acts; and [HL850]Whether they will place in the Library of the House the index for each of the last 10 years of all letters or documents they have written to the Association of Chief Police Officers on the subject of the Firearms Act 1968 and subsequent Firearms Acts. [HL851]

The Home Office does not maintain an index of letters or documents sent to chief officers of police or to the Association of Chief Police Officers on this subject. Copies of relevant circulars or publications are, however, placed in the Library.

Commonwealth Immigrants Act 1968

asked Her Majesty's Government:Whether they will publish the Law Officers' opinion as to the compatibility of the Commonwealth Immigrants Act 1968 with the European Convention on Human Rights. [HL757]

It is not the practice of Her Majesty's Government to disclose whether or not the Law Officers have advised in a particular matter, or to disclose the substance of any such advice. Law Officers' opinions over 30 years old are normally available for inspection at the Public Record Office, under the provisions of the Public Records Act 1958.

Firearms Consultative Committee

asked Her Majesty's Government:Whether they will list the current members of the Home Office Firearms Consultative Committee, giving their backgrounds and dates of appointment. [HL740]

The information requested is set out below. The dates given refer to the original appointment of the member concerned. All members were reappointed in January 1997 until 31 August 1998, with the exception of Mr. Snedden, who was appointed from 1 September 1997. The Firearms Consultative Committee Chairman, Lord Shrewsbury, is the 22nd Earl of Shrewsbury and Waterford, and was appointed on 11 October 1993. He has extensive experience of field sports, including hunting and shooting. He is also an experienced small bore and clay target shooter.Mr. A. T. Burden (29 August 1995)Chief Constable, South Wales Constabulary. Chairman of the Association of Chief Police Officers Sub-Committee on the Administration of Firearms and Explosives Licensing.Mr. B. Carter (27 August 1993)Director of the Gun Trade Association. Secretary of the Shooting Sports Trust. Member of the British Shooting Sports Council. Several times Great Britain Team Manager at various shooting Grand Prix, European and World Championships.Mr. V. Clayton (28 November 1996)Head of Firearms and Explosives Section, Operational Policing Policy Unit, Home Office.Mr. C. A. Ewing (27 August 1993)Former Chief Executive of National Rifle Association. Member of British Shooting Sports Council and of the Management Committee of the Great Britain Target Shooting Sports Federation. Formerly Regular Soldier (Colonel).Mr. J. D. Hoare (10 December 1996)Secretary of the National Small-bore Rifle Association. Chairman of the Great Britain Target Shooting Federation. Treasurer of the British Shooting Sports Council. Former regular soldier (Lieutenant Colonel).Mr. B. Hughes (1 February 1997)Barrister. Assistant Chief Crown Prosecutor for the London Area of the Crown Prosecution Service.

Mr. M. Jones (31 August 1995)

Labour MP for Clywd South West since 1987, Experienced target shooter.

Dr. I. Oliver (14 September 1989)

Chief Constable, Grampian Police.

Mr. D. J. Penn (14 September 1989)

Keeper, Exhibits and Firearms, Imperial War Museum. Fellow of the Society of Antiquaries. Liveryman of the Worshipful Company of Gunmakers. Office holder in Muzzle Loaders Association of Great Britain and Historical Breechloading Smallarms Association. Member of British Shooting Sports Council, Arms and Armour Society, National Pistol Association and National Rifle Association. Has represented Oxford University and County of London in pistol shooting. Also shoots rifle and shotgun.

Mr. R. J. Pitcher (14 September 1989)

Special Investigation Branch, Royal Military Police to 1984. Branch Proof Master, Worshipful Company of Gunmakers, Royal Small Arms Factory, Enfield to 1986. Proof Master, Worshipful Company of Gunmakers, London and head of British delegation to the Commission of International Proof. Pistol shot and rough shooter.

Dr. M. J. Pugsley (31 August 1993)

International shot, current member of Great Britain rifle team. First woman to win Grand Aggregate at Bisley. Also enthusiastic deer stalker and rough shooter.

Mr. I. Sneddon (1 September 1997)

Head of Police Department, Scottish Office.

Lord Tollemache (31 August 1995)

Conservative Peer. Farmer and landowner. Over 40 years' experience of game shooting, clay pigeon shooting, deer stalking and target shooting, both civilian and military.

Mr. T. Warlow (1 August 1990)

National Firearms Forensic Service, Forensic Science Services Laboratory, Huntingdon. Experience in muzzle-loading, air weapons, rifle and pistol target shooting, game shooting, deer stalking, wildfowling and clay pigeon shooting.

Funding Of Political Parties

asked Her Majesty's Government:What evidence they have submitted to the inquiry on the funding of political parties by the Committee on Standards in Public Life. [HL968]

We have submitted a memorandum on the funding of political parties, by way of background evidence, to the Committee chaired by the Lord Neill of Bladen QC. Copies have been placed in the Library.

Bse: Phillips Inquiry

asked Her Majesty's Government:Whether they will list the personnel who provide the support services for the Phillips Inquiry on BSE and denote whether they are currently employed by the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (MAFF) or have been previously employed by MAFF. [HL789]

The Parliamentary Secretary, Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food
(Lord Donoughue)

It is not customary to provide a list of personnel, but I can confirm that none of the Secretariat to the Lord Justice Phillips' Inquiry into BSE are, or has previously been, employed by the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food.

Bse: Experimental Research

asked Her Majesty's Government:Whether the research conducted at the Central Veterinary Laboratory, Weybridge, the interim results of which led to the Beef Bones Regulations 1997, bears any relevance to current on-farm conditions, including the size of the dose of infective material administered to the cattle, the age of the cattle to which it was administered and the length of the incubation periods found. [HL794]

The experimental results relate to animals which were exposed to doses which we believe to be greater than that to which most field cases were exposed, though this is not certain as we do not know the size of the dose in field cases. Although this may cast some doubt over the early findings of infectivity in the intestine, there is no reason to question the findings in relation to dorsal root ganglia and neither SEAC nor the EU's scientific advisors have taken this to be anything other than a genuine result which relates to field cases of BSE.

Bse: Age At Diagnosis

asked Her Majesty's Government:What was the distribution of age at diagnosis of, and death from, BSE:

  • (a) at the height of the epidemic; and
  • (b) for the last six months of 1997
  • for England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland; whether the incubation period of this disease is inversely related to the dose of the agent which initiates the infection; and whether there is any trend indicating that the dose initiating the infection is considerably reduced in the most recent data. [HL793]

    The following tables show the distribution of known age cases by their age at clinical onset of BSE for cases reported in 1992 and 1993, when the epidemic was at its peak, and for the last six months of 1997.

    1992
    AgeEnglandWalesScotlandNorthern Ireland
    11000
    226111
    31,4011566639
    410,5441,073547140
    57,119707308127
    62,2642149147
    7670552318
    82761940
    9103322
    1014301
    1112000
    124000
    130000
    142000
    Total22,4362,2311,042375
    1993
    AgeEnglandWalesScotlandNorthern Ireland
    10000
    214301
    3874103466
    45,07051828390
    59,6531,049685225
    64,03146322196
    79341025325
    832223138
    91241262
    1052241
    1115121
    124001
    131002
    140001
    150000
    160001
    Total21,0942,2761,313480
    July to December 1997
    AgeEnglandWalesScotlandNorthern Ireland
    10000
    21000
    353210
    43142566
    545547143
    62732891
    71571271
    895780
    952320
    1024120
    117100
    121000
    130010
    141000
    Total1,4331265011

    Note:

    For the last six months of 1997 GB figures are preliminary. As at 27/2/97 over 250 results were outstanding. NI figures are complete.

    The incubation period of field cases of BSE is not known as the date of exposure to the disease agent is not known. In experimental studies of transmissible spongiform encephalopathy agents there is an indication that lower doses result in longer incubation periods, but the relationship is not exact.

    Warble Fly Eradication

    asked Her Majesty's Government:In which counties and districts in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland there was a statutory requirement for treatment for warble fly eradication, and for what periods, for each year since 1970. [HL834]

    The following information is taken from the Reports of the Chief Veterinary Officer for the relevant years for England, Wales and Scotland.There were no statutory requirements to treat cattle infected with warble fly from 1970 to 1978 in Great Britain.In 1979, a policy was introduced to reduce the prevalence of warble fly infestation with the intention of moving on subsequently to eradication. In 1979, a statutory requirement was introduced for any animal in GB showing evidence of infestation in the spring to be compulsorily treated. In 1981, this was extended to include additional treatment of such animals the following autumn.In 1982, warble fly infestation was made a notifiable disease in GB and compulsory whole herd treatment in the autumn was introduced where infested animals were found. In addition, herds suspected of being affected due to their proximity to infected herds were included in the requirement to treat. An infected area policy was introduced in Scotland, followed in 1983 in England and Wales. This required compulsory treatment of all cattle over 12 weeks of age in infected areas. The following infected areas were declared between 1982 and 1986. No infected areas are reported in the Chief Veterinary Officer's Reports for 1987 and 1988.

    1982

    • Islay
    • Mull, Iona, Gometra and Ulva
    • Tiree
    • Lismore

    1983

    • Anglesey

    1984

    • Anglesey
    • Lleyn Peninsula
    • East Cornwall
    • Parts of Dorset and Wiltshire
    • Parts of North Somerset and South Avon
    • Parts of Dumfries and Galloway Region

    1985

    • West Cornwall
    • East Cornwall and much of South Devon
    • Dorset and parts of neighbouring counties including most of South Avon
    • Anglesey and the Lleyn Peninsula

    1986

    • West Dorset and neighbouring parts of Somerset
    • South West Devon including Dartmoor

    From 1989 in England and Wales (1995 in Scotland), spring and autumn treatment has been required of any herds in which serological evidence of infestation is found together with all herds within a 3km radius of them. 3km zones have been declared as follows:

    1989

    • 21: in South West England, Wales, North Midlands and the North of England

    1990

    • 6: in Devon, Dorset, Gloucestershire, Oxfordshire, Gwynedd and Cornwall

    1992

    • 2: in Cumbria and North Yorkshire

    1993

    • 39: in Avon, Ayrshire, Bedfordshire, Cheshire, Cornwall, Devon, Dorset, Dyfed, Gloucestershire, Hampshire, Kent, Lancashire, Lothian, Oxfordshire, Shropshire, Somerset, Staffordshire, West Sussex, Wiltshire and Worcestershire

    1994

    • 3: in Cumbria, Hereford and Worcester, and Wiltshire

    Warble fly was made a notifiable disease in Northern Ireland in 1969, when a statutory requirement was introduced for any animal in Northern Ireland showing evidence, during the period 1 February to 31 August each year, to be notified to and compulsorily treated by the department.

    As a result of an upsurge in the level of warble infestation notified during spring 1976, compulsory autumn treatment programmes were carried out as follows:

    1976 (1 September-30 November)—Treatment of all cattle in herds in two areas comprising south Down and south east Armagh and south east Fermanagh, and in addition, outside those areas, all cattle in herds which had evidence of infestation in Spring 1976.

    1977 (15 September-30 November)—Treatment of all cattle in herds in five areas comprising west Down, Co. Armagh, south east Tyrone, Clogher/Fivemiletown and south east Fermanagh, and in addition, outside those areas, all cattle in herds which had evidence of infestation in spring 1977.

    1978 (2 October-30 November)—Treatment of all cattle in herds in seven areas comprising west Belfast, south and mid Antrim, Co. Armagh, west Down, south east Fermanagh, south east Tyrone and Dungannon, and in addition, outside those areas, all cattle in herds which had evidence of infestation in spring 1978.

    There have been no compulsory autumn treatment programmes since 1978 to date.

    There is no serological surveillance programme for warble fly infestation in Northern Ireland, surveillance being by physical examination on farm and at markets and slaughterhouses.

    There have been no cases of warble fly in Northern Ireland since 1994.

    Eu Tobacco Crop: European Consumption

    asked Her Majesty's Government:What percentage of the tobacco grown in the European Union is consumed in the European Union. [HL852]

    According to the latest figures available from the European Commission, approximately 18 per cent. of the tobacco grown in the European Union in 1996 was consumed in the European Union.

    Bse In Eu Member States

    asked Her Majesty's Government:How many cases of BSE they would have expected to be reported in each European Union country given the numbers of cattle exported to each country from the United Kingdom; and what actual numbers have been reported. [HL 853]

    An estimate of the number of cases of BSE which other countries of the European Union might have expected was published by Schreuder et al in the Veterinary Record on 23 August 1997. However, these estimates have been challenged by various authorities on the grounds that the estimates are based on insufficient data (e.g. that the trade figures do not distinguish between dairy and beef cattle).The actual numbers reported in EU countries are shown in the following table.

    European Union countryDate of last reportNo. of cases from UKTotal casesSource of confirmation
    Republic of Ireland24/02/9812284EU Commission
    France16/02/9834EU Commission
    Belgium27/01/981EU Commission
    Portugal27/01/98793EU Commission
    Germany27/01/9856*EU Commission
    Denmark05/07/9611EU Commission
    Netherlands27/01/982EU Commission
    Luxembourg27/01/981EU Commission
    Italy05/07/9622EU Commission
    * Includes 1 BSE case from a non-EU country
    The accuracy of the figures in this table cannot be guaranteed as they are dependent on information provided by outside sources.

    English Uplands: Development And Conservation Grants

    asked Her Majesty's Government:What grants will be made available for rural development and conservation in the uplands of England. [HL923]

    The future of the rural economy and future protection of the uplands countryside are closely linked, and we need to continue to develop our grant schemes to help to strengthen that relationship.The Government are therefore issuing new proposals for an experimental scheme, under which an integrated package of the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food's Objective 5b rural development grants and Countryside Stewardship grants could be put together to meet local employment and conservation needs. This experiment will apply in two areas of England. Secondly, we are proposing to extend the range of grants for the conservation of the uplands under the Countryside Stewardship scheme.We issued yesterday a consultation paper setting out these proposals in detail. We will welcome comments by the end of May.

    Fisheries Enforcement

    asked Her Majesty's Government:What action is being taken to improve the effectiveness of fisheries enforcement in the United Kingdom. [HL899]

    The Fisheries Departments and the Scottish Fisheries Protection Agency are currently spending some £25 million a year on fisheries enforcement, primarily on monitoring the application of the Common Fisheries Policy and ensuring that measures designed to conserve fish stocks and to safeguard the long term interests of the fishing industry are respected.Our present enforcement arrangements are highly regarded and the Government would like to pay tribute to the dedication of our UK fishery officers on shore and those at sea, including the Royal Navy and the SFPA Marine Service. There is, however, no room for complacency. Enforcement must be effective and since taking office this Government have made clear their determination to tackle the problems created by undeclared landings of fish.Last year we announced that we would be introducing a new licence condition prohibiting the discarding of stowed fish. That took effect from 1 January this year. We also advised that we would be assisting the Marine Safety Agency with checks for vessel safety certificates and crewing certificates. Checks by British Sea Fishery Officers on vessel safety certificates will begin in April and those for crewing certificates in June.Progress is being made with the requirements for the introduction of satellite monitoring. The Fisheries Departments expect to award a contract for the establishment of a vessel tracking system in the next two months. That system should be operational by mid summer and within 18 months will monitor the movements of all UK vessels over 24 metres as well as those from other member states operating in our waters. This will allow us to make more effective use of the resources we devote to aerial surveillance and inspections at sea.Similarly, we need to make the best use of the resources we devote to port surveillance. We believe that the effectiveness of our land based inspectorates would be significantly improved by introducing a system of designated ports and discharge times for all non pelagic landings made by vessels of 20 metres overall length and above. These vessels account for over 70 per cent. of the total tonnage and 65 per cent. of the total value of non pelagic landings into the UK made by the over 10 metre fleet, and the ports that will be designated will cover over 90 per cent. of such landings. Nonetheless, we recognise that there are some vessels which are based at or land into non-designated ports. We shall continue to permit this subject to these vessels providing a minimum of four hours' notice of the discharge of their catch. A consultation paper setting out our proposals is being issued to the fishing industry and copies have been placed in the Library of the House. These arrangements, which will be subject to clearance with the European Commission, will complement those which already exist for the landing of pelagic species where the operation of designated ports, coupled with more rigorous surveillance at sea and separate area licensing has had a significant impact on addressing undeclared landings in the pelagic sector. The new control measures will be kept under close review by the Fisheries Departments to ensure that they are effective and practical and that they are meeting the desired objectives.Apart from introducing designated ports, we continue to keep under review other measures for strengthening enforcement in the UK. These include improving the arrangements for the submission of sales note data, which has been a Community requirement since 1994. Further consideration will also be given to the adoption of a system of administrative penalties for fisheries offences. Such arrangements, which would need to be the subject of consultation with the fishing industry, would depend on changes being made to existing legislation so that action could be taken in respect of offences other than breaches of licence conditions.Although action is being taken to improve the effectiveness of our national enforcement arrangements, the Government are equally committed to raising enforcement standards throughout the Community. If the Common Fisheries Policy (CFP) is to succeed, it is essential that fishermen should be subjected to the same level of control wherever they land. To this end we have been intensifying co-operation on enforcement with other member states. Also, we are pleased to say that the Commission has now issued a report on fisheries monitoring under the CFP in time for discussion at the March Fisheries Council. That report reviews the operation of the existing fisheries enforcement arrangements in the Community and sets out a programme of action to improve control leading to a fairer and more effective enforcement regime. We will seek to take this work forward during the remainder of the UK Presidency.

    British Registered Fishing Vessels

    asked Her Majesty's Government:Whether they have yet had a response from the European Commission to their proposals for ensuring that all British registered fishing vessels maintain a real economic link with the United Kingdom, regarding the compatibility of the proposals with the European treaty and the jurisprudence of the European Court; and if they have not had a response, when they expect to receive it; and [HL814]Further to the Written Answer by the Lord Donoughue on 16 February (

    WA 3), on what date were copies of the proposals for ensuring that all registered British fishing vessels maintain a real economic link with the United Kingdom circulated to the fishing industry and placed in the Library of the House. [HL815]

    The Government have not yet had a response from the European Commission to their proposals but one is expected shortly. The proposals were circulated to the industry on 16 February and placed in the Library of the House on the same day.

    Bse: Evidence To Phillips Inquiry

    asked Her Majesty's Government:Whether and on what basis secretarial support, expenses, legal assistance and the provision of support by counsel will be made available to (a) officials; (b) former officials; (c) Ministers; (d) former Ministers; (e) former Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food employees; and (f) former special advisers who wish to give evidence to the enquiry on BSE being chaired by Lord Justice Phillips. [HL784]

    The inquiry is responsible for setting the broad framework for the support of witnesses. Her Majesty's Government will lend support to witnesses who are former Ministers, present and former officials, or present and former members of advisory committees. This will include provision of access to papers for the preparation of written statements and possible subsequent oral hearings.Provision of legal advice and support will be made at the discretion of departments. If individuals are unhappy with the decisions made by departments on the provision of legal assistance, they can make representations to the inquiry.

    Beef Bones For Dog Food

    asked Her Majesty's Government:Why the Written Answer by the Lord Donoughue on 13 February (

    WA 253) appears to contradict his Written Answer on 12 January ( WA 185); and, if they are contradictory, which is correct. [HL736]

    There is no contradiction. The later question related solely to the Beef Bones Regulations which do not control the use of bones as petfood. This is because bovine bones removed from any bone-in beef must be treated as if they were animal by-products referred to in Part II of Schedule I to the Animal By-Products Order 1992 and disposed of accordingly. That order permits stained or sterilised bones to be supplied by knackers' yards for petfood as I stated previously. However, following further legal consideration, I can now advise the noble Lord that, in addition, bones may be used to prepare petfood at the premises where they originated, for example the butcher's shop where the meat was deboned. Such bones do not need to be stained or sterilised but the butcher or other supplier must be satisfied that the bones are being obtained for pets and not human consumption.

    Northern Ireland: Electoral Registers For Referendum

    asked Her Majesty's Government:Whether they will ensure that, in the event of a referendum on a political settlement, the Representation of the People (Northern Ireland) Regulations 1986 will be amended to ensure that all recognised political parties in Northern Ireland will be supplied with free copies of the electoral register, including data copies, for all constituencies in Northern Ireland; and [HL628]Whether they will amend the Representation of the People (Northern Ireland) Regulations 1986 in order to grant a statutory right to receive copies, including data copies, of the relevant electoral register to:

  • (a) prospective candidates for a Northern Ireland Assembly
  • (b) prospective candidates for the European Parliament. [HL629]
  • These questions are currently being considered by my right honourable friend the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland alongside many other issues surrounding not only a referendum but also Assembly elections and electoral procedures more generally. No entitlement exists anywhere in the UK for a free issue of the electoral register in computer data format. Those entitled to free copies of the electoral register in printed format are entitled to purchase the register in computer data format at the special rate of £1.80p per thousand names. The Chief Electoral Officer for Northern Ireland has indicated that he will supply two free copies of the printed register, on request, to each of the parties who obtained delegates as a result of the May 1996 elections. They will be able to obtain one copy of the register in computer data format at the discounted price.

    Northern Ireland: Abortion Law

    asked Her Majesty's Government:Further to the Written Answer by the Lord Dubs on 23 February (

    WA 65), what they consider to be unclear about Section 25(1) of the Criminal Justice Act (Northern Ireland) 1945. [HL822]

    The law on abortion in Northern Ireland is governed by a combination of statute and case law.Section 25 of the Criminal Justice (Northern Ireland) Act 1945 is concerned with the criminal penalty for infant death. Section 25 applies to the destruction of the foetus in late as opposed to early pregnancy. In cases of earlier abortion, determination of lawful cause would be based on the facts of a particular pregnancy and the case law interpretation of Section 58 of the Offences Against the Person Act 1861.Abortion is, generally, a criminal offence in Northern Ireland under Sections 58 and 59 of the Offences Against the Person Act 1861. However, there are a number of judicial pronouncements on Section 58 which accept that the prohibition against abortion is not absolute. Case law on Section 58 has not laid down with any degree of certainty the range of circumstances which might come within the definition of a lawful cause for abortion.In those cases involving later abortions which might fall under Section 25 of the 1945 Act, it is unclear what would constitute definitive proof that a child was capable of being born alive.

    Inland Revenue Staff Numbers

    asked Her Majesty's Government:How many civil service jobs are currently located at each of the Inland Revenue collection offices. [HL760]

    At 1 January 1998, the Inland Revenue employed 923 staff in its Accounts Office in Cumbernauld, 869 in the Accounts Office in Shipley and 367 in the Enforcement Office, Worthing. In addition, the department employs some 3,800 staff on collection duties in local offices throughout the country, but is not possible to give an exact number for each separate location.

    Victims Of Nazi Persecution: Conditions For Release Of Property

    asked Her Majesty's Government:Further to the statement of the Lord Haskel on 18 February (H.L. Deb., col. 277–279), whether the five conditions for obtaining the release of property to victims of Nazi persecution were prescribed by international law or United Kingdom law; and, if so, where and upon what terms the law was so prescribed; and [HL723]Further to the statement by the Lord Haskel on 18 February (H.L. Deb., cols. 277–279), whether they consider that they were obliged in law to release property to victims of Nazi persecution only in accordance with the five conditions; and, if so, what is their basis for this view. [HL758]

    The five conditions were not binding upon Her Majesty's Government but they did set the international standard. They also had an international legal effect, in that it was only certain assets, including the assets of individuals who satisfied the five conditions, which could be excluded from account under the Accounting Rules of the Inter-Allied Reparation Agency. Subject to the general principles of administrative law (which were essentially the same in the late 1940s as now), Her Majesty's Government were free to set whatever terms they saw fit for release of claimants' property: they could have been more restrictive or less. Adoption of the five conditions was what appeared right at the time; and subsequent relaxations were made where justified.

    Business Tenancies: Originating Applications

    asked Her Majesty's Government:In an average week, how many Originating Applications are made to Courts in England and Wales for renewals of business tenancies pursuant to Section 24 of the Landlord and Tenant Act 1974. [HL764]

    The annual national figure for England and Wales during 1997 was 9,600, giving a weekly average of 185.

    Musical Instrument Tuition In Schools

    asked Her Majesty's Government:What proportion of schools have arrangements for musical instrument tuition; and how the current position compares to that 20 years ago (or other convenient period) and; [HL895]What proportion of school children participate in musical instrument tuition through arrangements at their school; and how the current position compares to that 20 years ago (or other convenient period). [HL896]

    The Minister of State, Department for Education and Employment
    (Baroness Blackstone)

    Information about the arrangements in schools for musical instrument tuition and the number of school children participating in such tuition is not collected centrally.

    Building Regulations, Part M

    asked Her Majesty's Government:What plans they have to extend part M of the building regulations to new dwellings. [HL970]

    The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department of the Environment, Transport and the Regions
    (Baroness Hayman)

    Further to the Answer given by my honourable friend the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department of the Environment, Transport and the Regions (Mr. Nick Raynsford) in another place on 11 June 1997, (Official Report, Vol. 295, col. 472) to a similar question from the honourable Member for Sutton and Cheam, we are pleased to announce that Part M of the Building Regulations, covering access and facilities for disabled people, is to be extended to include new dwellings. This decision has been taken following a thorough consideration of the responses to the consultation on the subject issued by the previous government in January 1995 and discussion with the Joseph Rowntree Foundation and the House Builders Federation. The purpose of these proposed measures is to allow people to be able to invite disabled people to visit them in their own homes, and for home owners to be able to remain in their own homes longer as they become less mobile as they get older.The benefits of these changes will be very considerable—more than 10 million people will benefit. In particular there will be direct benefits of increased convenience, accessibility and sociability for disabled people. The measures will also help significantly those people who are temporarily disabled through accident or injury, the elderly and those with young children in prams and pushchairs.The extension of Part M is an important measure that complements this Government's commitment to implement the remaining duties of Part III of the Disability Discrimination Act. Part III will improve disabled people's access to goods and services and Part M will ensure better access to new domestic dwellings. This is, therefore, a key obligation for this Government, who are committed to social inclusion. It is better and more cost effective for new homes to be designed and built with proper facilities—as already happens with new public and commercial buildings—than to rely on later piecemeal adjustments.The measures to be included in the approved document will cover:

    • level entry to the principal, or a suitable alternative, entrance
    • an entrance door wide enough to allow wheelchair access
    • WC provision on the entrance or first habitable storey
    • adequate circulation and wider doors within the entrance storey
    • switches and socket outlets at appropriate heights from floor level
    • level or gently sloping approach from the car parking space to the dwelling, or where this is not possible, easy-going steps, but not a stepped ramp
    • where a lift is to be provided in flats, a minimum lift capacity and dimensions will be recommended
    • where a lift is not provided, the common stairs to be designed to suit the needs of the ambulant disabled.

    These measures reflect those set out in the original consultation paper, although it is not proposed to make provision for a 300 mm offset inside, and next to the entrance door.

    Amendment regulations will be laid later this year which will extend Part M of the building regulations to cover new dwellings. A new Approved Document will be prepared in readiness for publication at the same time which will set out ways in which the requirements of the regulations can be met, and will suggest circumstances where certain of the measures may not be appropriate.

    To allow adequate time for guidance to be developed in support of the proposals, and in particular that for level thresholds, and also to allow time for building workers to become trained in the new techniques that will be necessary, it is proposed the amendment regulations will come into force one year after they are laid.

    If, however, those building new dwellings in the intervening period were to incorporate the proposed measures voluntarily it would greatly benefit the stock of accessible housing.

    Filwood Playing Fields, Bristol

    asked Her Majesty's Government:Whether the Commission for Local Administration in England has had any communication in any form with Bristol City Council concerning application number 97/08136, the proposed bus depot construction on Filwood Playing Fields in Hengrove. [HL840]

    Such questions are a matter for the Commission for Local Administration, which is independent of both central and local government in its investigation of complaints of maladministration by local authorities leading to injustice.

    Road Accident Preventive Measures

    asked Her Majesty's Government:How many deaths and serious injuries they expect, on the basis of research by the Road Research Laboratory and others, would be saved each year by:

  • (a) the adoption in the United Kingdom of European Central Time;
  • (b) the proposed reduction of the blood alcohol limit for drivers from 80mg/ml to 50mg/ml. [HL831]
  • The Transport Research Laboratory has recently refined its previous estimates of the net savings in road casualties in Great Britain were European Central Time to be adopted. Its recently received report, which was produced jointly with statisticians from University College London, gives a central estimate, from which there could be significant variations, of about 450 deaths and serious injuries which might be saved. The report is being considered by the Department of the Environment, Transport and the Regions and by the Scottish Office. The report will be published in due course.It is estimated that a reduction of the blood alcohol limit from 80mg/100ml to 50mg/100ml would save about 300 fatal or serious casualties per year.

    Turf Cutting

    asked Her Majesty's Government:Whether they believe it is consistent with the sustainable use of land for turf to be repeatedly harvested from it over a period of years. [HL855]

    Turf cutting as a commercial activity may constitute "development" within the terms of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990, requiring planning permission. Where turf cutting is "reasonably necessary for the purposes of agriculture", it benefits from permitted development rights under Part 6 of Schedule 2 to the Town and Country Planning (General Permitted Development) Order 1995. In such cases, there is no requirement for a planning application to be submitted to the local planning authority. Whether turf cutting is deemed to be an agricultural activity, an activity reasonably necessary for the purposes of agriculture, or a non-agricultural activity requiring planning permission will depend on the circumstances of the particular case.The long-term agricultural potential of land may be significantly reduced if substantial amounts of soil are removed. Local planning authorities are advised to consult MAFF about commercial cutting or stripping of turf from agricultural land where planning permission is required. LPAs are required in any case to consult MAFF before granting permission for a planning application which is not in accordance with the development plan and would involve (i) the loss of 20 ha or more of grades 1, 2 or 3a agricultural land or (ii) a loss which is less than 20 ha but is likely to lead to further losses amounting cumulatively to 20 ha or more. Such consultations enables MAFF to advise on appropriate technical conditions.Under the Agricultural Land (Removal of Surface Soil) Act 1953, it is an offence to remove for sale more than 5 cubic yards of surface soil from agricultural land in any period of three months unless removal of the soil is "reasonably necessary" in the course of cutting turf.

    Blood Alcohol Levels Following Initial Reading

    asked Her Majesty's Government:What is their estimate of the reading which a breathalyser would give at (a) 7 am and (b) midday if the person concerned had given a reading of 80 mg/ml at midnight and consumed no alcohol after midnight. [HL884]

    Any person whose blood alcohol level at midnight was reliably recorded as 80mg/100ml—the current legal limit—by means of a breath test, and who consumed no further alcohol would be unlikely to retain more than, at most, 10mg/100ml by 7 am and a negligible quantity by midday.

    London Underground: Water Penetration

    asked Her Majesty's Government:What advice they have received from London Underground about water penetration into Underground tunnels; what plans they have for investment to meet the danger; and what estimate they have formed of the likely costs should they find that they have left this investment too late. [HL810]

    The Government are aware that rising groundwater beneath London is affecting parts of the Underground network. Investment to control it has not been left too late. London Underground has considerable expertise in dealing with groundwater and is taking action as necessary within its ongoing maintenance and investment programme. For the longer term, Thames Water plc is taking the lead in developing a strategy for alleviating rising groundwater levels across the area of London most likely to be affected.

    Iraq: Icrc Access To Detainees

    asked Her Majesty's Government:What information thy have about 909 Iraqi citizens and 604 Kuwaiti citizens and others detained or imprisoned in Iraq without trial: whether they will seek access by the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) or other human rights monitors to all prisons and places of detention in Iraq in order to ascertain the fate of these persons; and whether they consider that a further United Nations resolution would be helpful. [HL782]

    The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State Foreign and Commonwealth Office
    (Baroness Symons of Vernham Dean)

    The Iraqi regime has an appalling human rights record both where its own citizens and third country nationals are concerned. The most recent report of the UN Special Rapporteur, Max Van Der Stoel, on Iraq made clear that "widespread, systematic and serious violations of human rights continue in Iraq".

    The ICRC and other NGOs have frequently sought and been denied access by the Iraqi regime to prisons and detention centres.

    Security Council Resolution 687 requires Iraq to extend all necessary co-operation to the ICRC to provide access to Kuwaiti detainees held since the Gulf war. Iraq has consistently failed to abide by this.

    The UK will work with EU partners for a resolution on Iraq at the forthcoming 54th session of the United Nations Commission on Human Rights.

    asked Her Majesty's Government:Whether they intend that the resolution now being drafted in the United Nations Security Council will clearly establish who is to determine (a) whether the terms recently signed up to by the United Nations Secretary General and the Government of Iraq are being breached; and (b) whether a military attack on Iraq may, in consequence, lawfully be launched. [HL808]

    The resolution that the noble Lord refers to was adopted by the Security Council on 2 March as SCR 1154.The text of the resolution makes three things clear; that the Security Council gives full backing to the agreement reached with Iraq by the UN Secretary General: that Iraq will face the severest consequences if it violates the terms of the agreement; that if Iraq complies in full sanctions can be lifted.

    Iraq: Un Resolutions

    asked Her Majesty's Government:Whether they expect the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM) or the new inspecting body to show conclusively that there are weapons of mass destruction remaining in Iraq, or whether their continuing inability to prove a negative will result in sanctions on Iraq never being lifted. [HL809]

    In order for sanctions to be lifted, Iraq must comply fully with relevant security resolutions. To date, UNSCOM has been unable to report compliance because Iraq has chosen to pursue a policy of concealment, deceit and obstruction. We welcome the progress made by the UN Secretary General in Baghdad, whose Memorandum of Understanding, since endorsed by Security Council Resolution 1154, secured an unambiguous commitment from Iraq to allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access to all sites, personnel and documents which UNSCOM believes to he connected with Iraq's proscribed weapons programmes. If Iraq finally honours its obligations under the relevant Security Council resolutions, we would see no barrier to the lifting of sanctions.

    International Court Of Justice: Judgments

    asked Her Majesty's Government:Further to the Written Answer by the Baroness Symons of Vernham Dean on 23 February (

    WA 60),

    whether they will place in the Library of the House copies of United Nations publication of summaries of judgments, advisory opinions and orders of the International Court of Justice 1948–1991 and of the Court's annual reports to the General Assembly for the years from 1991. [HL811]

    I understand that arrangements will be made by the Library of the House to have this material available for consultation.

    Counter Battery Radar Project

    asked Her Majesty's Government:What is the current position on the Counter Battery Radar project. [HL969]

    I am pleased to inform the House that a contract for the Industrialisation and Production phase of the Counter Battery Radar project, COBRA, covering the requirements of France, Germany and the UK, was signed on 6 March 1998. The contract, valued in total at approximately £350 million, was placed with Euro-Art, a consortium consisting of Thompson CSF, SI Sicherungstechnik, RACAL and Lockheed Martin.COBRA will provide the Army with the capability to locate and classify hostile rockets, guns and mortars accurately and at long range, and will act as a force detector. It will also be able to monitor breaches of ceasefire when deployed in a peacekeeping role.The project is a good example of the benefits of collaboration with our European partners, and has given us the opportunity to procure technologically advanced equipment at a considerably lower cost than would have been the case had we pursued a purely national programme. The contract will result in around eight years of work for British industry.

    Legislation, Parliament And The Sovereign

    asked the Leader of the House:What are the precedents for a Minister of the Crown to give either House of Parliament the personal views of the Sovereign on the merits, acceptability or desirability of a piece of legislation being considered by Parliament. [HL908]

    Precedents are often helpful in deciding the appropriate procedure in a particular circumstance, but House of Lords' procedures are not settled by precedent. As I told the House on Monday 2 March (H.L. Deb., col. 955), procedure should be based on common sense and applied with regard to the particular circumstances. There are no precedents directly relevant to the case which was the subject of my statement.

    asked the Leader of the House:Whether he will indicate those circumstances, other than when a Bill is fundamentally personal to the Sovereign and her family, or when Her Majesty's views would very soon become apparent through other channels, in which they regard it as appropriate or desirable to make known to Parliament the private views of the Queen on a piece of legislation under consideration; and whether the two particular circumstances referred to justify the practice singly or only in combination. [HL909]

    A common sense approach to procedure means that every Bill must be considered separately. There is no circumstance which I can envisage where a Minister would make known to Parliament Her Majesty's views except on a Bill fundamentally personal to the Sovereign or her family and after full consultation with the Palace. I would expect the normal means of conveying the Queen's consent to Parliament to operate in the case of other Bills.

    Sickness/Incapacity Benefit Recipients And Employment Levels

    asked Her Majesty's Government:How many people in the United Kingdom were receiving long-term sickness or incapacity benefit for each year from 1977 to 1997, by sex and by age category (for example: 15–30, 30–45 and over 45—or such other categories as are appropriate to the data; and how those figures compare with (a) employment and unemployment levels, and (b) life expectancy (or some other appropriate measure of the overall health of the same population), for the same years. [HL622]

    Great Britain Invalidity Benefit (1977–1995) and Incapacity Benefit (Short Term Higher and Long Term rates) recipients (1996–1997) incapacitated at the end of the year, by age and sex
    1977197819791980198119821983198419851986
    Men
    All Ages421,250461,100503,900506,000516,211552,807592,907638,200672,581706,100
    Under 201,1001,2501,8001,7001,2001,4001,400600600600
    20–246,2005,8506,2005,5007,0006,2005,7007,3007,2005,700
    25–299,95010,50010,2009,50011,10011,40011,60012,60012,90014,500
    30–3415,50018,55017,00017,20016,50614,90015,40716,60017,51319,900
    35–3918,75021,55019,30021,70024,00625,00727,60027,10029,52730,100
    40–4426,80028,30033,40031,40031,92333,30033,20035,10036,50036,500
    45–4933,00037,70038,40039,30040,21246,00049,60050,70053,31352,400
    50–5454,15057,30058,90055,00058,01760,20065,00069,70075,50079,300
    55–5977,90090,300111,300107,700103,923111,200118,800127,100128,100134,100
    60–64152,900157,850168,900170,600175,423192,800209,900232,700239,127246,100
    65 and over25,00031,95038,20046,40046,90050,40054,70058,70072,30086,900
    Women
    All Ages84,05096,100106,000108,500116,364130,300143,907158,800176,367193,100
    Under 201,3502,1002,3001,7001,0121,200700500500500
    20–245,8505,4507,5008,5007,9128,7008,4007,8008,5138,300
    25–295,8506,55010,2008,5009,40010,00012,60713,10012,50015,400
    30–344,4005,4506,1007,40010,800120,00011,80015,50016,30016,900
    35–395,3006,5007,8008,5007,7009,30012,10013,70017,01320,200
    40–446,8508,2008,4008,7009,70012,00013,50015,70017,30017,600
    45–4910,80011,10012,10012,40014,51816,40016,50019,20022,01324,300
    50–5417,55018,65018,70018,50018,71220,80023,90024,40028,00032,700
    55–5923,00027,95028,60029,30031,41233,30037,60040,40042,22743,100
    60 and over3,3004,1504,3005,0005,2006,6006,8008,50012,00014,100

    The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department of Social Security
    (Baroness Hollis of Heigham)

    The information is not available in the format requested. Such information as is available is set out in the tables. Detailed information on trends in life expectancy and other measures of health are published in Social Trends 28—1998 edition, published by The Stationery Office a copy of which is available in the Library.

    Employment and Unemployment levels in the United Kingdom
    Unemployment benefits claimants (seasonally adjusted)Workforce in Employment1
    MaleFemaleMaleFemale
    June 1977890,800268,200Not availableNot available
    June 1978855,300294,00015,332,2819,782,359
    June 1979770,400297,00015,431,07510,061,107
    June 1980910,600363,30015,353,56510,091,897
    June 19811,605,100570,90014,697,4679,779,221
    June 19821,847,700673,20014,336,8879,702,015
    June 19832,027,200777,50014,082,0069,676,109
    June 19842,040,000856,50014,351,91510,059,604
    June 19852,099,700918,80014,419,68110,272,007
    June 19862,153,000966,50014,302,22710,416,309
    June 19871,978,200857,30014,482,20310,765,528
    June 19881,599,100694,40014,928,39411,208,119
    June 19891,276,100509,90015,281,20311,663,927
    June 19901,191,100423,80015,319,90311,877,799
    June 19911,743,700557,30014,644,55511,668,741
    June 19922,094,800639,00014,145,52211,603,213
    June 19932,241,600677,20013,788,83711,571,262
    June 19942,023,500620,30013,849,17211,667,430
    June 19951,763,700549,40014,026,96111,773,146
    June 19961,631,400518,90013,973,68912,041,755
    June 19971,222,400377,40014,274,83312,247,487
    Source:
    Office for National Statistics.
    Notes:
    1 Includes employees, self employed, HM Forces and work related government training.

    1987

    1988

    1989

    1990

    1991

    1992

    1993

    1994

    1995

    1996

    1997

    Men

    All Ages754,400807,800859,600916,800976,1001,063,5001,156,0001,217,0001,261,7001,210,6801,146,660
    Under 203003009001002000200004020
    20–245,7005,6005,7005,1006,4008,4006,1007,0006,5006,5005,860
    25–2913,80012,00014,70016,80018,40021,00025,90025,70026,70026,44024,580
    30–3419,30022,50023,60024,30026,60033,90035,50040,90046,60044,62043,280
    35–3931,70029,70031,50030,90033,40043,10050,30053,60060,30061,30061,840
    40–4441,80047,20049,50053,50056,70059,50064,70070,10071,40072,40072,060
    45–4956,50058,10060,10063,80068,90080,40094,500104,900106,800112,020108,040
    50–5488,40094,800101,900108,200115,100122,100130,000134,100147,400147,540152,120
    55–59137,100149,500158,500171,300176,400191,600211,300224,200232,300230,660221,700
    60–64250,200258,200262,200266,200273,100284,900308,500321,500328,700315,920312,040
    65 and over109,600129,900151,000176,600200,900218,600229,000235,00023,300193,240145,120

    Women

    All Ages213,500239,700266,400292,100329,900375,400424,000464,200505,200481,720485,400
    Under 203007007002002001000100100200
    20–248,3007,6007,6008,2007,2008,6008,6007,4006,4006,1605,700
    25–2917,70016,20018,70020,10021,20025,80027,40026,00026,10024,78023,500
    30–3419,10019,50021,20021,30023,40025,90030,70034,30036,60036,22035,940
    35–3920,60022,00023,30026,10026,30029,30031,90036,90040,30042,32042,280
    40–4419,80025,60028,40029,60035,80040,40043,70046,30051,50049,82051,580
    45–4927,80030,90032,40036,60039,30046,50057,10064,40073,90075,28075,560
    50–5438,60044,00048,80053,60060,80064,90070,70077,80086,50089,74097,580
    55–5944,60053,00061,90067,30078,70087,400101,400108,700117,500105,540111,180
    60 and over16,70020,20023,40029,10037,00045,50052,50062,30066,30051,84042,080

    Note:

    Where a "0" appears this means that no cases were picked up by the sample.

    Source

    1977–1978 2 per cent. clerical sample, 1979–1995 1 per cent. clerical sample.

    1996–1997 5 per cent. sample of the computer system, excludes a small number of cases not on the system.

    Northern Ireland: Claimants incapacitated by sickness and invalidity for over 6 months (1978–95) and Incapacity Benefit (Short Term Higher and Long Term rates) (1995–97) at the end of the year by age and sex

    1978

    1979

    1980

    1981

    1982

    1983

    1984

    1985

    1986

    Men

    All Ages17,15018,08017,93517,37518,87521,83522,50021,79023,700
    Under 201104040304015453560
    20–24315275230200260370340310385
    25–29310420370435525605530525595
    30–34600665655600690750825860930
    35–398758758108209851,2601,1351,0651,285
    40–449851,1601,1301,0501,2301,5601,5551,4351,575
    45–491,5451,7101,7351,6251,6351,7401,8551,9801,950
    50–542,6052,4952,6352,6602,7452,9052,9302,7452,860
    55–593,8804,1454,0853,9204,0354,4754,7254,6404,980
    60–645,2455,3605,4555,2205,7806,9607,3506,7307,200
    65 and over6809357908159501,1951,2101,4651,880

    Women

    All Ages5,9156,6507,0656,1457,0458,4008,6958,83010,255
    Under 20456065303550254040
    20–24470490495275345405410275275
    25–29345580815520700765810690800
    30–345456556806207308608808401,000
    35–394306056705507558609459551,155
    40–445406055755456358258609451,165
    45–497357858307858651,0651,2451,3051,290
    50–541,0551,1751,3101,1851,0951,2851,3451,5201,810
    55–591,4001,5001,3851,4401,6551,9101,8651,9202,265
    60 and over150195240195230375310340455

    1987

    1988

    1989

    1990

    1991

    1992

    1993

    1994

    1995

    1996

    1997

    Men

    All Ages25,41027,69029,96031,74033,31534,92034,95035,08042,32045,77545,454
    Under 2055307555404050209022
    20–24385350385435390435400280510260254
    25–296457809459309058659507301,1401,0841,035
    30–349109901,0651,1351,2951,3551,5951,6002,2501,8581,813
    35–391,3901,5301,5801,5301,5901,6301,7951,5902,2702,5802,547
    40–441,7201,9202,0852,2552,3402,3102,4052,2002,9503,3483,289
    45–492,1802,3202,5452,6602,8353,0953,3853,2803,9404,5044,483
    50–542,9703,3003,5903,7354,0254,1404,8704,3005,4908,4188,374
    55–595,0755,2555,5805,5055,8806,1806,7806,7207,8908,5028,483
    60–647,6358,0158,1708,7258,5358,8759,2808,4809,13011,11711,108
    65 and over2,4653,2003,9404,7755,4805,9958,4405,8806,6608,1058,085

    Women

    All Ages11,38512,95515,04516,59017,54518,83021,28518,74024,60027,13126,942
    Under 20351570754525705012011
    20–24330405430445475445500450690448424
    25–298759851,0751,2001,1351,2401,3501,2201,9802,2782,208
    30–341,0251,3201,4551,5801,5651,6601,8001,7102,6503,1653,099
    35–391,1801,3451,4451,5601,6651,6901,8901,9002,4902,9172,874
    40–441,4401,4901,7201,7601,8851,8852,1701,7402,3202,8422,827
    45–491,4101,7251,9352,1252,2652,6153,0002,4103,3203,5223,519
    50–542,0952,2052,5702,7502,9302,8703,4003,0703,8004,5004,517
    55–592,2852,6003,1703,3853,7304,1104,4203,9904,5104,9805,001
    60 and over7108651,1751,6101,8502,1902,6752,2002,7202,4802,472

    Note:

    Figures not available for 1977.

    Source

    1978–1995 20 per cent. clerical sample. 1996–1997 100 per cent. count of the computer system, excludes a small number of cases not on the system.