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Volume 13: debated on Tuesday 17 November 1981

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday 17 November 1981

Employment

Pathway Scheme

16.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what financial contributions have been made by his Department to the pathway scheme.

My Department makes no direct financial contribution to this scheme, although the Manpower Services Commission's disablement resettlement officers work closely with pathway employment officers and the commission's job introduction scheme is available to help fund placements wherever appropriate.

Skill Availability

17.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what measures he plans to take to increase the availability of skills in British industry.

We are already spending over £300 million on the training for skills programme and the training opportunities scheme and are considering urgently how best to implement the proposals in the document "A New Training Initiative".

Secret Ballots

18.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will introduce legislation for compulsory secret ballot on all strike decisions.

My right hon. Friend hopes to announce the Government's proposals for further legislation on industrial relations shortly.

Industrial Training

19.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will seek an accord with the Confederation of British Industry and the Trades Union Congress on a new programme of industrial training.

Proposals for a new training initiative were published in May with the full backing of the Manpower Services Commission. I am now awaiting a report from the commission on the results of consultations it has had, including the position of the TUC and the CBI.

Cornwall

20.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the percentage of male unemployment in Cornwall; and if he will list those counties that have a higher percentage.

At 8 October, the male unemployment rate in Cornwall was 17·2 per cent. The percentage rate was higher in the following counties:

  • West Midlands
  • Shropshire
  • Humberside
  • Merseyside
  • Tyne and Wear Cleveland
  • Durham
  • Clwyd
  • Gwent
  • Gwynedd
  • Mid-Glamorgan
  • South Glamorgan
  • West Glamorgan
  • Strathclyde
  • Western Isles

Divers

21.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many divers are employed on the United Kingdom continental shelf; and how many of these are foreign divers.

Wages Councils

22.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the future of wages councils.

Wages councils exist in certain trades and industries where there is no adequate machinery to negotiate wages. They are independent, trade-based bodies with powers under the Wages Councils Act 1979 to set statutory minimum rates of pay, holiday entitlement and certain other conditions. The operation of the Wages Councils Act is kept under constant review. There are no plans at present to amend the Act, but my right hon. Friend is taking a number of steps to streamline the system within the existing legislation and is willing to consider abolition of particular councils or reductions in scope where statutory protection is no longer needed because of the development of collective bargaining. He is also prepared to amalgamate councils where appropriate, and on 9 June last laid an order before the House which merged seven of the clothing councils into one from 20 July.

Job Release Scheme

23.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the progress of the job release scheme.

28.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the progress of job release schemes.

The job release scheme was extended on 1 November to men aged 63. Applications for the scheme are being received at a rate of about 1,000 a week. In September, 50,868 people were receiving payments under the job release scheme. There will be a further extension in February 1982, when men aged 62 will be able to join the scheme. The total number receiving payments is expected to increase to over 70,000 in March 1982 and to continue increasing thereafter. People who join the job release scheme by giving up their jobs create job opportunities for those on the unemployed register.

Printing Industries Training Board

24.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment when he intends to reach a decision on the future of the printing industries training board.

I refer the hon. Member to the statement made by my right hon. Friend on Monday 16 November.—[Vol. 13, c. 30.]

Employment And Labour Relations (Legislation)

25.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whom he has consulted in connection with his proposed legislation affecting employment and labour relations.

45.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many responses he has received on the Green Paper on industrial relations; and if he will make a statement.

We have received responses to our Green Paper on trade union immunities from over 300 employers, trade unions, and other organisations and individuals. My right hon. Friend and I have also met a number of those who commented to discuss their submissions in greater detail.

Southampton Docks (Disputes)

43.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will review the dock labour scheme in conjunction with the British Transport Docks Board with the aim of ensuring that the differential pay disputes which have hampered the smooth functioning of the Southampton docks through 1981 are permanently resolved.

Levels of pay, including the determination of appropriate differentials, are entirely a matter for the British Transport Docks Board and its employees through their joint negotiating machinery. The dock labour scheme requires only that the wages and conditions of a registered dockworker "shall be in accordance with the national or local agreements for the time being in force".

Youth Opportunities Programme

44.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many places are currently vacant in the youth opportunities programme.

On 2 October 1981 there were 45,000 opportunities immediately available to young people.

48.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he is satisfied that the youth opportunities programme Christmas undertaking will be honoured.

Up to the end of September about 190,000 school leavers had entered the youth opportunities programme. It is still too early to say whether the Christmas undertaking will be fully met, but I am satisfied that all those concerned are making every effort to meet it.

57.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will now increase the £23·50 weekly payment for young people taking part in the youth opportunities programme.

We are considering the level of allowance in the light of advice we have received from the Manpower Services Commission and will be making an announcement shortly.

Unemployment Statistics

47.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the latest figures of unemployment for the United Kingdom.

At 8 October, the number of people registered as unemployed in the United Kingdom was 2,988,644.

54.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the latest figures available for the numbers and percentages of the working population who are unemployed; what is the unemployment percentage of men over 60 years of age; and if he will make a statement.

At 8 October 1981, the United Kingdom unemployment was 2,988,644 and the rate, expressing the unemployed as a percentage of the employed population, both in employment and unemployed was 12·4 per cent. The unemployment rate for men aged 60 and over was estimated to be 20 per cent. at the same date.

31.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the latest unemployment figures.

35.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the latest unemployment figures.

We are determined to reverse the long term decline which has led to the tragically high figures. But there cannot be a sustained fall in unemployment until we establish economic recovery, become competitive and regain our place in world markets. Meanwhile, we are helping those worst affected through special employment measures, which will cost £1 ½ billion next year.

34.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the total numbers in the United Kingdom of those registered unemployed, on short time and engaged in Manpower Service Commission schemes; and by how much unemployment has increased since May 1979.

At 8 October 1981, the total number of people registered as unemployed in the United Kingdom was 2,988,644.Information about the numbers on short-time working relates to operatives in manufacturing industries in Great Britain. In the week ended 15 August 1981, the latest date for which figures are available, 196,000 operatives were on short-time working either for the whole or for part of the week.The numbers of people covered by the special employment and training measures are available for Great Britain and the estimated figure at the end of September 1981, the latest available, was 697,300, broken down as follows:

Number
Temporary short-time working compensation scheme320,000
Job release scheme51,000
Youth opportunities programme270,000
Community industry7,000
Community enterprise programme19,000
Training for skills (end of August)30,300
Between May 1979 and October 1981 the number of people registered as unemployed in the United Kingdom, excluding school leavers and seasonally adjusted, increased by 1,416,900.

41.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the total number of registered unemployed and the percentage of the working population this represents and the equivalent figures for June 1979.

At October 1981 the number of people registered as unemployed in the United Kingdom, excluding school-leavers and seasonally adjusted, was 2,728,900 and the unemployment rate 11·3 per cent. The corresponding figures for June 1979 were 1,283,900 and 5·3 per cent. The rate of unemployment is based on the estimated number of employees—employed and unemployed—which differs from the working population in that it excludes members of Her Majesty's Forces and the self-employed.

Industrial Relations (Legislation)

49.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment when he expects to meet leaders of the Trades Union Congress to discuss his proposed industrial relations legislation.

No specific meeting has yet been fixed. But I am ready to meet representatives of the Trades Union Congress at any time to discuss matters of common interest.

30.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment when he expects to announce his proposals for further legislation on industrial relations.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave to my hon. Friend the member for Chorley (Mr. Dover) earlier today.

Lost Working Days

50.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what was the number of working days lost in 1980 and so far in 1981 through strikes.

The number of working days lost through industrial stoppages recorded in 1980 was 11,964,000. The total so far in 1981, based on provisional figures up to September, is 3,180,000.

North-West (Unemployment Statistics)

51.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many young people are currently unemployed in (a) the North-West, (b) Merseyside, (c) Kirkby and (d) Ormskirk travel-to-work areas.

The following table gives the numbers of young people under 20 years of age registered as unemployed at 8 October in the areas specified.

Number

North West Region86,740
Merseyside Special Development Area28,587
Kirkby employment office area1,528
Ormskirk travel-to-work area1,174

The youth opportunities programme for the young unemployed has been expanded this year to provide 550,000 work experience and training places.

Apprentices (Recruitment And Training)

52.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what further action he intends to take to assist the recruitment and training of apprentices, especially in the engineering industry.

The level of Government support for industry's long-term skill training has been increased considerably this year. Out of a total of about £50 million allocated for this purpose, about £23 million is being used to support apprentice training in the engineering industry. One of the major objectives of the "New Training Initiative" is to achieve more flexible and open arrangements for training young people and adults to recognised standards of skill.

Labour Mobility

53.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what techniques he employs to assess the degree of mobility of labour.

There are a number of different facets of labour mobility, including movement between regions, changes in job or labour turnover, and movement between occupations. Various Government surveys provide information on all these aspects of labour mobility; for example, my Department collects information on labour turnover based on quarterly employment returns from a sample of manufacturing employers; and information on geographical and occupational mobility is available from the census of population, and sample household surveys such as the general household survey and the labour force survey.

Carbon Disulphide Levels

55.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what discussions his officials have had with the Courtaulds company and with the Health and Safety Executive concerning carbon disulphide levels and their effect upon workers health; what steps he proposes to take; and if he will make a statement.

The Health and Safety Commission has requested the advisory committee on toxic substances to review all the epidemiological and other evidence, including current practices in industry, to advise on the most suitable threshold limit value—the accepted guideline for occupational hygiene purposes—to be adopted for carbon disulphide (CS2). This will of course include a review of the effects of CS2 on workers' health.Since 1968, Her Majesty's Factory Inspectorate have carried out two surveys in a number of factories using CS

2 to identify the levels of exposure of work people so that advice could be given on the necessary action. Inspectors have been pressing firms to reduce the levels of

CS2 in air where they have been found to be in excess of the threshold limit value which is now set at 10 parts per million of air.

At the Courtaulds' Greenfields plant in North Wales a programme of improvement designed to reduce exposure to CS2, agreed by Her Majesty's Factory Inspectorate with both management and unions, is being implemented.

Sunderland

56.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what specific action has been taken to reduce unemployment in Sunderland.

The reduction of unemployment in Sunderland, as in other parts of the country, will largely depend upon firms there producing the goods which people both at home and abroad want, and at prices they are prepared to pay. It is only in this way that the jobs which are so much needed will be created. Meanwhile, Sunderland will continue to benefit from my Department's special employment and training measures.Sunderland is also to retain its special development area status so that firms setting up or expanding there and creating new jobs will be eligible for the maximum financial assistance available under the Industry Act.

Safety At Work

26.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will seek to ensure that the full list of plants assessed by the Health and Safety Executive as at risk is made public.

Apprenticeships

27.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what fresh proposals he has for arresting the decline in apprenticeships to industry.

As I told my hon. Friend the Member for Fareham (Mr. Lloyd) on 21 July—[Vol. 9, c. 73–74]—the Government are providing a further £9·6 million in 1981–82 and £11 million in 1982–83. This will bring the total to support industry's long term training needs in the current training year to some £50 million. My right hon. Friend expects to make a further statement about skill training in the context of the Government's response to the consultations on "A New Training Initiative" by the turn of the year.

School Leavers (Greater London)

29.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what percentage of 1981 school leavers in Greater London other than those taking further or higher education is now employed.

It is not possible to give an answer in the form requested. The Department of Education and Science estimates some 80,000 young people left school in Greater London this year for employment, and the number of unemployed school leavers in October in Greater London was 39,092.

Tuc (Training Initiative)

32.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he has any plans to meet the general secretary of the Trades Union Congress to discuss the new training initiative.

My right hon. Friend is always ready to meet the general secretary of the Trades Union Congress to discuss matters of common interest.

Workington

33.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what measures he proposes to reduce unemployment in the Workington travel-to-work area.

A reduction in unemployment in Workington, as in the country as a whole, will depend primarily on the ability of firms in the area to produce the goods which people in this country and abroad want to buy at prices they are prepared to pay. The Government's policies aim to produce the conditions which will help such firms to become competitive and so enable them to create the jobs we all want to see. Meanwhile, Workington will continue to benefit from the Government's programme of special employment measures.

Nottinghamshire

36.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what percentage of the working population in Nottinghamshire is unemployed at the present time.

At 8 October, the unemployment rate in Nottinghamshire was 11·3 per cent. The rate is based on the estimated number of employees—employed and unemployed—which differs from the working population in that it excludes members of Her Majesty's Forces and the self-employed.

North-West And Merseyside

37.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the latest unemployment figures for the North-West and Merseyside, respectively.

At 8 October, the numbers of people registered as unemployed in the North-West region and in the Merseyside special development area were 424,224 and 130,460, respectively.

Dinnington

38.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the present rate of unemployment within the Dinnington employment exchange area; and if he will list those employment exchange areas in Yorkshire and Humberside which have a higher rate of unemployment.

At 8 October, the unemployment rate in the Sheffield travel-to-work area, of which the Dinnington employment office area is a part, was 13 per cent. The percentage rate was higher in the following areas in the Yorkshire and Humberside region:

  • Barnsley*
  • Bradford*
  • Bridlington
  • Dewsbury*
  • Doncaster*
  • Goole
  • Hull*
  • Maltby
  • Mexborough*
  • Rotherham
  • Scunthorpe*
  • Whitby

* Travel-to-work area comprising two or more employment office areas.

Industrial Training Boards

39.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment when he expects to make decisions as to the future of the industrial training boards.

46.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make it his policy to retain in operation al, the Manpower Services Commission's industrial training boards and to maintain their present funding arrangement.

I refer my hon. Friend and the hon. Member to the statement made by my right hon. Friend on Monday 16 November.—[Vol. 13, c. 30.]

Disabled Persons (Greater Manchester)

40.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list those firms in Greater Manchester which are employing at least 3 per cent. disabled people.

Information about the numbers of registered disabled people in individual firms is obtained in confidence, and cannot be disclosed without the consent of the firm concerned.However, on 1 June 1981, the latest date for which information is available, 926 or 40 per cent. of employers in Greater Manchester subject to the 1944 Act employed at least 3 per cent. registered disabled people. We have no information about the numbers of disabled people in employment who are not registered.

Employment Act 1980

42.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he is satisfied with the operation of the Employment Act 1980; and if he will make a statement.

The Employment Act 1980 came into force just over one year ago. It is still too soon to make any final judgment about its effectiveness. We have, of course, taken experience of the operation of the Employment Act so far fully into account in assessing the outcome of consultations on the Green Paper on trade union immunities.

Trade

Imports (Fraudulent Labels)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many cases were investigated this year by his Department of imported goods bearing fraudulent labels; and what actions were taken as a result.

False and misleading trade descriptions are prohibited under the Trade Descriptions Act, 1968, which is enforced by local authority trading standard departments. Cases of the kind my hon. Friend has in mind are not separately identifiable in the statistics available centrally on the application of the Act.

Eastern Europe (Electrical Goods)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will seek to ban imports of electrical goods from East European countries with which the United Kingdom has no reciprocal trade facilities.

I do not believe that import controls would be justified. The EEC Commission is, however, examining a case for anti-dumping duties against imports from certain Eastern European countries of domestic refrigerators and cylinder vacuum cleaners.

Solvents

asked the Secretary of State for Trade (1) if he will now introduce legislation to make it illegal to sell solvents to anyone under the age of 21 years;(2) if he will hold discussions with manufacturers of solvents to ask them to add to the manufacturing process any substance which would make it obnoxious to smell or to alter the formula used to make it odourless.

[pursuant to her reply, 13 November 1981, c. 189.]: If, as I assume, the hon. Member wants to prevent the practice of glue sniffing, I do not consider it would be practicable or justifiable to try to achieve this by banning sales of solvents or products containing solvents to those under 21. It would be unreasonable to deprive those under 21 of the right to buy the very wide range of products concerned when they want to use them for their proper purpose, and it would be difficult for shopkeepers to distinguish those over from those under 21. I suspect that many youthful sniffers would still be able to get hold of goods containing solvents if they wanted to, as some would find them at home or get those over 21 to buy them for them. From inquiries it appears impossible to deter sniffers by making solvents obnoxious to smell without at the same time making them unsuitable for their purpose.

National Finance

European Investment Bank (Loans)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the regional breakdown within the United Kingdom of loans received from the European Investment Bank in 1980.

Loans granted by the European Investment Bank for projects in each member State of the European Community are detailed in the EIB' s annual reports. The regional breakdown for 1980 as indicated by the 1980 annual report, is as follows:

Region£ million
England
North-East
North27·3
North-West96
South-East3
South-West6

Region

£ million

Yorkshire and Humberside18·8
Northern Ireland49
Scotland125·7
Wales16
Other*75·5
Total417·3

* Includes projects covering more than one region.

European Community

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what estimates Her Majesty's Government have made of the net cost of the United Kingdom's contribution for 1982 to the European Community, given that the rebate arrangements of the last two years are to be extended into the next year.

Unemployed Persons (Costs)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what are the factors which account for the difference between his estimate of the average annual cost per unemployed person and the recent estimate of the Manpower Services Commission; and if he will make a statement.

I shall let the right hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.

Car And Fuel Benefits (Taxation)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what are the cost savings to the Inland Revenue of changing the basis of collecting tax on car and fuel benefits to pay-as-you-earn; and how these savings are made up.

The proposals in the Finance Act 1981 requiring employers to apply PAYE to car and car fuel benefits from April 1982 would have made possible a reduction in Inland Revenue staff numbers of about 150. However, in the light of a number of representations received about the difficulties the regulations would have created for employers the Government have decided to postpone the introduction of any change for one year. Amending legislation to this effect will be included in the next Finance Bill. The Inland Revenue will continue to discuss with employers' representatives ways of overcoming the problems that have been identified and of achieving worthwhile staff savings in this area.

Energy

British National Oil Corporation

59.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy how many people were employed by the British National Oil Corporation in Glasgow in 1979 and 1980; how many are currently employed; and what projections he has for employment in the British National Oil Corporation, Glasgow in 1982, 1983 and 1984.

The British National Oil Corporation employed 686 people in Glasgow at the end of 1979, and 948 at the end of 1980. Almost 1,200 are currently employed there and the corporation has firm plans to recruit more staff in 1982. Figures for later years are not currently available.

Energy Conservation Projects

asked the Secretary of State for Energy how many energy conservation projects operating under the community enterprise programme are known to his Department; how many employees are involved; and how many homes are being insulated by such schemes.

The Manpower Services Commission is supporting 37 schemes through its community enterprise programme employing approximately 400 people on energy conservation work. It is estimated that these schemes will insulate up to 30,000 dwellings a year. A further 12 schemes have been approved by MSC and will employ approximately 150 people and insulate up to another 23,000 dwellings a year. The schemes are not necessarily concerned solely with insulation work.

Neighbourhood Energy Action

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what support his Department has given or plans to give to the work of neighbourhood energy action.

I refer to the answer given to my hop. Friend the Member for Falmouth and Camborne (Mr. Mudd) on 2 June 1981, in which my hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State for Energy announced that my Department will contribute £11,500 in 1981–82 towards the costs of neighbourhood energy action. The Manpower Services Commission is contributing an equal amount. The Department is also making available £93,000 for grants to help voluntary organisations get community insulation projects under way.

North Sea Oil

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what estimate he has made of the total investment made by each of the following in North Sea oil exploration and development (a) BP, (b) Shell, (c) Esso, (d) Conoco, (e) Mobil, (f) Gulf, (g) Texaco, (h) the British National Oil Corporation, (i) French oil companies, (j) German oil companies, (k) British independent oil companies, (l) British banks, (m) American banks, (n) British insurance companies, (o) other British companies and (p) the International Energy Bank.

Publication of estimates in the detail requested made from the exploration and field expenditures that are collected by my Department would involve a breach of statutory confidentiality.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy how many officials at principal level and above are dealing with North Sea development; how many have held jobs in the oil industry; and whether these divisions of his Department are understaffed.

Seventy-seven staff at principal level and above in my Department are directly involved in North Sea development. Of these 16 have held jobs in the oil industry. The petroleum engineering division has about 20 petroleum specialist vacancies.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what further consideration he has given to his policy for developing marginal oilfields since he received the study group's first report in January.

The oil industry has made proposals for assisting marginal fields in recent submissions to my right hon. and learned Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer and to myself on the structure of the North Sea fiscal regime. These proposals are now being examined.

Lighting Costs (Winter Time)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy whether there is any extra cost, in terms of electrical energy used for lighting, incurred by moving from summer to winter time; and if he will estimate that cost.

Present estimates of the effect of moving from British summer time to Greenwich mean time, based on past experience of extending British summer time throughout the year, indicate that any additional lighting costs are likely to be negligible.

Home Department

Bbc

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) whether the 4 per cent. level for salary and wage increases as operated for public servants is expected to be applicable to the British Broadcasting Corporation and all of its employees, full and part-time;(2) whether he will ensure that any change so be made in the charge for television licences will not exceed the Government's 4 per cent. norm for public service salary and wage increases.

In deciding increases in the television licence fee, and for what period fees should be established, my right hon. Friend has regard to the needs of the BBC and to what is fair to licence fee payers. Under the BBC's charter and licence and agreement it is for the BBC's governors to decide how to allocate the resources available from the licence fee revenue. The BBC is responsible for determining pay agreements with its staff, and it is not a matter in which the Government intervene. The BBC is aware that, like other organisations, it needs to pay particular attention to containing increases in costs, especially labour costs.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what discussions have taken place between his Department and the British Broadcasting Corporation regarding an increase in the cost of the television licence; and whether, before agreeing to any alteration in the present cost, he will ensure that the British Broadcasting Corporation makes full details of its costs and charges available to the public in general and to hon. Members in particular.

There have been discussions both at official level and between the chairman of the board of governors and my right hon. Friend about the BBC's application for an increase in the television licence fees. The BBC already gives information about its expenditure in its annual report and accounts which are laid before Parliament and also in its booklet "BBC TV: Facts and Figures 1981".

Juvenile Offenders

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what research there is available to him which supports the theory that sending juvenile offenders to institutions with physically demanding regimes acts as a deterrent (a) on the juveniles sent there or (b) on others; and if he will identify the individual research studies.

There is a considerable body of research on the effectiveness of sentencing but we are not aware of research specifically dealing with this particular point. The evaluation programme which is part of the tougher regime pilot project in a number of detention centres will, however, compare the nature and measurable effects of the regime of those centres with that of other detention centres. The results of the evaluation will not be available before 1983.

Private Radio Stations

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he is satisfied with the efficacy of his measures to prevent private radio stations broadcasting in the United Kingdom; and if he will make a statement on his policy.

The investigation of all illicit uses of radio is carried out by British Telecom on behalf of the Home Office. Within the limitations of resources and other demands on their services my right hon. Friend is satisfied that everything practicable is being done to prevent illegal broadcasting in this country.

Boundary Commission

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will arrange for one copy of the transcript of the hearing at each local public inquiry held by a Parliamentary Boundary Commission to be placed in the Library free of charge.

No. I understand that the Parliamentary Boundary Commissions for England and Wales are prepared to supply copies of such transcripts to the House of Commons Library at the current rate of 8p per page, plus VAT. The supply of transcripts of the hearings of local inquiries held by the Boundary Commissions for Scotland and Northern Ireland is a matter for my right hon. Friends the Secretaries of State for Scotland and Northern Ireland respectively.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department who has decided that the Parliamentary Boundary Commission for England should aim to complete its current general review of constituencies by the end of 1982.

The Parliamentary Boundary Commission for England is an independent statutory body and has itself decided to try to complete its current general review by the end of 1982.

Citizenship

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many applications have been received in each month of 1981 for (a) registration as a citizen and (b) naturalisation as a citizen.

The figures are as follows:

Number of Registration applications receivedNumber of Naturalisation applications received
1981
January5,391962
February5,438903
March7,2341,012
April7,7151,065
May6,400989
June4,225792
July4,138630
August3,484586
September4,069691
October4,214705

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the average time taken to process an application for citizenship by (a) registration and (b) naturalisation.

The current average time taken to complete the processing of an application for registration is 12 months where there is an entitlement to registration, and 28 months where registration is discretionary. The current average time to complete the processing of an application for naturalisation is 20 months.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many applications for (a) registration and (b) naturalisation have been granted or refused in each month of the current year.

The figures are as follows:

(a) Applications for Registration(b) Applications for Naturalisation
grantedrefusedgrantedrefused
1981
January1,86116759567
February1,91416645692
March3,81713765777
April1,484109444103
May2,34410939680
June2,25917678372
July4,01715667375
August4,198153451107
September4,61614865667
October6,60814333768

British Nationality Act 1981

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will list the administrative and other changes necessary before the commencement date of the British Nationality Act 1981.

The main changes necessary are the making of new regulations; the design and printing of new application forms, explanatory leaflets and certificates; the preparation of publicity material; and the drawing up of new administrative instructions for staff.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what steps he is taking to publicise the provisions of the British Nationality Act 1981 among those communities in the United Kingdom and abroad who are directly affected by it.

A press release was issued on 30 October explaining the main provisions of the Act. Preparations are being made for further publicity both at home and overseas explaining how the Act will affect particular groups of people.

Equal Opportunities Commission

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many people were employed by the Equal Opportunities Commission on 1 15August.

Attacks On Women

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, if he will publish any statistics he has which would show the number of women attacked between the hours of 6 pm and 12.30 am, compared with other periods of the day over the last three years, broken down into county areas.

Information is not collected centrally on the sex of the victim or the time of day of serious offences recorded by the police in England and Wales.

Racial Attacks (Study)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is now able to publish the findings of his study into racial attacks.

This study has now been completed by my officials and a copy of their report has been placed in the Library of the House. I consider that the report is a significant document and I am grateful to all those bodies and individuals who contributed to the work of the study team. I have indicated in a foreword to the report the lines of action that I intend to pursue.

North Sea Camp Detention Centre (Rights Of Way)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he is now in a position to reply to the observations made to him jointly in March by the Lincolnshire county council, the Boston borough council and the Freiston parish council about the future public rights of way between Freiston Shore and the Plumbers Hotel on land occupied by the North Sea camp detention centre.

The draft document granting the rights and various amendments to it, has been the subject of several exchanges of correspondence since March 1981 between the parties concerned. At present a reply is awaited from the Lincolnshire county council.

Prisons (Cash Limit)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he has any changes to make on the cash limit for the Prisons Vote, class IX Vote 8.

Subject to parliamentary approval of the necessary Supplementary Estimate, the cash limit on the prisons Vote will be raised by £7,384,000 from £440,737,000 to £448,121,000. The increase provides for the impact on the prison system of the urban unrest in the summer—£4,361,000—and residual expenditure on last year's prison emergency—£4,057,000. However, in accordance with normal practice, a deduction has been made from the cash limit in respect of the overspending in 1980–81—£1,034,000. The additional provision will be found from the contingency reserve and so does not add to planned spending totals.

Prisons (Reports)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he has received the first reports of Her Majesty's Chief Inspector of Prisons; and what arrangements he proposes to make for the publication of such reports.

I have now received reports from Her Majesty's Chief Inspector of Prisons on Her Majesty's prisons Featherstone, Erlestoke House and Cookham Wood. I have placed copies of these reports together with statements of the action taken on Her Majesty's chief inspector's main recommendations in the Libraries of both Houses. Members of the public may purchase copies from the Home Office library, Room 1007, 50 Queen Anne's Gate, London SW1H 9AT. The same arrangements will apply to future reports on individual establishments by Her Majesty's Chief Inspector of Prisons.

Prime Minister

Engagements

Q5.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 17 November.

Q6.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 17 November.

Q7.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 17 November.

Q9.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 17 November.

Q12.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 17 November.

Q13.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list hex official engagements for Tuesday 17 November.

Q15.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 17 November.

Q16.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 17 November.

Q17.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for 17 November.

Q18.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 17 November.

Q19.

asked the Prime Minister if she will state her official engagements for Tuesday 17 November.

Q21.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 17 November.

Q23.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 17 November.

Q24.

asked the Prime Minister if she will give details of her official engagements for 17 November.

Q25.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 17 November.

Q26.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 17 November.

Q28.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 17 November.

Q30.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 17 November.

Q31.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 17 November.

Q32.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 17 November.

Q33.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 17 November.

Q34.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 17 November.

Q35.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 17 November.

This morning I had a meeting with King Hussein of Jordan. Following other meetings with ministerial colleagues, I attended the memorial service for Lord Boyle of Handsworth. In addition to my duties in the House, I shall be having further meetings later today. This evening I hope to have an audience of Her Majesty the Queen, before departing for Bonn, where I shall have talks with Chancellor Schmidt tomorrow.

Confederation Of British Industry

Q10.

asked the Prime Minister when last she met the leaders of the Confederation of British Industry.

asked the Prime Minister when next she plans to meet the leaders of the Confederation of British Industry.

Iranian Students

Q11.

asked the Prime Minister what is the policy of Her Majesty's Government on the return of Iranian students to Iran in view of the current situation in that country.

Under the immigration rules, a student seeking admission must show that he intends to leave on completion of his studies and can maintain himself and his dependants without working or recourse to public funds. The Government do not believe that the current situation in Iran is such as to entitle Iranian students in general to remain exceptionally, but we do consider carefully applications that individual Iranians should not be returned to Iran owing to a well-founded fear of persecution. A general exception for Iranian students would be incompatible with our policy of maintaining a tight control on immigration.

The Chancellor Of The Exchequer

Q14.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will dismiss the Chancellor of the Exchequer.

I refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply which I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Cannock (Mr. Roberts).

North Sea Oil

Q20.

asked the Prime Minister what representations she has received about the expenditure of North Sea oil revenues.

I answered a question from my hon. Friend on 10 November. I have had no other such representations recently.

Factory Closures

Q22.

asked the Prime Minister how many hon. Members she has seen on matters relating to factory closures since she last answered oral questions; and how many jobs are expected to be lost in the closures discussed.

Nationalised Industries

Q27.

asked the Prime Minister if she has any plans to meet the chairmen of nationalised industries.

Nuclear Disarmament And Third World Aid

Q29.

asked the Prime Minister what representations she has received from Church leaders regarding nuclear disarmament and aid for the Third world; and if she will make arrangements to discuss these topics with them.

I have received a number of such representations on these topics, but I have at present no plans for meetings of the kind my hon. Friend suggests.

Ministerial Statements

Q36.

asked the Prime Minister if she will give instructions that no copies of ministerial statements should be issued to the press before such statements are made in Parliament.

Ministerial statements are not issued to the press before they are made in Parliament. This necessary courtesy is well understood and observed. As I made clear last week—[Vol. 12, c. 661]—I find leaks of the contents of ministerial statements offensive.

Privatisation (Scottish Participation)

asked the Prime Minister if she will give instructions that when parts of nationalised undertakings are sold off, Scottish financial institutions shall have an opportunity of participating in such sales and Scottish workers and managers in such undertakings are given the opportunity to takeover such operations as are based in Scotland.

I am particularly anxious to respect the special concerns of employees in the industries being privatised, and the arrangements we shall make for forthcoming sales will reflect this. These considerations apply in Scotland as elsewhere in the United Kingdom. An important objective of our privatisation programme is the promotion of wider share ownership, whether directly or through pension funds. For the purpose of advice and guidance on privatisation matters, we shall continue to select those financial institutions best suited to the job, as is essential if the interests of the taxpayer are to be protected.

Unemployment Statistics

asked the Prime Minister how the percentage rate of unemployment in Wales in October 1981 compares with the percentage rate in the standard regions of England.

At 8 October the percentage rates of unemployment in Wales and in the regions of England were as follows:

Per cent.
Wales15·7
South East9·0
East Anglia9·7
South West10·7
West Midlands15·1
East Midlands10·9
Yorkshire and Humberside13·2
North West14·9
North15·9

Yacht Radios And Citizens Band Radio

asked the Prime Minister if she will take steps to make comparable the licence fees applicable to yacht radios and citizens band sets.

The fee for each group of licences under the Wireless Telegraphy Act 1949 is set with regard to the costs involved. Since the costs differ, so do the fees.

Registrar-General For Wales

asked the Prime Minister if she will take steps to appoint a separate Registrar General for Wales, as in Scotland.

No. In Scotland there is a separate body of law governing marriages and the registration of births and deaths, administered by a separate Registrar General. There is another body of law for both England and Wales. Legislation would be needed to establish a separate office of Registrar General for Wales and a separately administered local registration service. I cannot see that this would offer any practical advantage to the public in Wales.

United States Bases (Employment)

asked the Prime Minister if she will give an estimate of the number of jobs directly and indirectly dependent on United States bases in the United Kingdom.

There are probably 25,000 or more jobs in the United Kingdom arising directly or indirectly from the presence of United States bases here. This is, of course, a very considerable side benefit of the presence of these bases, but our primary purpose in providing military facilities for the United States forces is to maintain the strength and the deterrent value of the North Atlantic Alliance. This is the cornerstone of our defence policy.

Attorney-General

Prosecution Policy

asked the Attorney-General whether there will be any change in the prosecution policy of the Law Officers or of the Director of Public Prosecutions following the recent verdict in the trial of Dr. Arthur.

Sessions Worked Weekly in Hospitals by Part-time Medical Officers by Health Authority and Specialty at 30 September 1980*
ClwydDyfedGwent
NumberSessionsNumberSessionsNumberSessions
Accident and Emergency48·01468·0
Anaesthetics410·0420·91425·9
Child and Adolescent Psychiatry18·026·0
Clinical Genetics
Clinical Neurological Physiology12·0
Dermatology36·022·036·0
Diseases of the Chest
Ear, Nose and Throat11·017·012·0
General Medicine510·424·056·0
General Pathology
General Surgery44·011·0
Genito-Urinary Medicine10·924·0
Geriatric Medicine1231·0815·111160
Haematology
Infectious Diseases12·025·0
Mental Handicap25·053·911·0
Mental Illness825·112·0412·0
Nephrology
Obstetrics and Gynaecology68·01027·6711·0
Ophthalmology11·014·011·0
Other21·1
Paediatrics19·010·3
Radiology11·013·0
Rheumatology and Rehabilitation12·022·0
Traumatic and Orthopaedic Surgery23·0210·011·0
GwyneddMid GlamorganPowys
NumberSessionsNumberSessionsNumberSessions
Accident and Emergency2167·0
Anaesthetics919·4720·154·3
Child and Adolescent Psychiatry27·0
Clinical Genetics
Clinical Neurological Physiology
Dermatology48·032·6
Diseases of the Chest314·059·1
Ear, Nose and Throat12·0616·3
General Medicine1317·1513·0

Wales

General Practitioners

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many general practitioners in each of the health authorities in Wales hold part-time hospital posts as well; how they are subdivided according to number of sessions and specialty; to what extent it is his policy to develop general practitioner and hospital practice as interdependent rather than independent; and if he will review the extent to which the mandantory trainee system makes this collaboration more difficult to accomplish.

Gwynedd

Mid Glamorgan

Powys

Number

Sessions

Number

Sessions

Number

Sessions

General Pathology
General Surgery210·033·4
Genito-Urinary Medicine11·0
Geriatric Medicine1720·92146·02353·4
Haematology
Infectious Diseases12·0
Mental Handicap12·096·1612·0
Mental Illness510·61538·019·0
Nephrology
Obstetrics and Gynaecology67·131·3
Ophthalmology32·119·0
Other66·0
Paediatrics10·622·0
Radiology22·0
Rheumatology and Rehabilitation22·0
Traumatic and Orthopaedic Surgery11·01220·1

South Glamorgan

West Glamorgan

Wales

Number

Sessions

Number

Sessions

Number

Sessions

Accident and Emergency35143·0
Anaesthetics210·049·043119·6
Child and Adolescent Psychiatry15·015·0631·0
Clinical Genetics25·025·0
Clinical Neurological Phsysiology12·0
Dermatology1224·6
Diseases of the Chest11·0924·1
Ear, Nose and Throat37·026·01241·3
General Medicine12·057·32659·8
General Pathology15·015·0
General Surgery24·011·0920·9
Genito-Urinary Medicine49·026·0923·4
Geriatric Medicine940·0814·091236·4
Haematology15·015·0
Infectious Diseases49·0
Mental Handicap420·023·02153·0
Mental Illness921·027·044124·9
Nephrology15·015·0
Obstetrics and Gynaecology24·016·03065·0
Ophthalmology29·011·0827·1
Other12·089·1
Paediatrics629·31041·2
Radiology36·0
Rheumatology and Rehabilitation11·067·0
Traumatic and Orthopaedic Surgery1535·1

* In the Wales total, staff practising in more than one specialty are counted under the specialty to which they devote the greater part of their time.

Sessions Worked Weekly by Hospital Practitioners by Specialty in the Mid Glamorgan Health Authority at 30 September 1980

Number

Sessions

Anaesthetics37·0
Child and Adolescent Psychiatry12·0
Geriatric Medicine13·0
Obstetrics and Gynaecology27·0

Full co-operation between general practitioners and hospitals is essential to the proper provision of health care.

There is no evidence that vocational training for general practice makes collaboration more difficult to achieve.

Handicapped Children (Education)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will consult local authorities to see whether cooperation between local authorities could be improved to assist in the purchase and supply of equipment for the education and use of handicapped children.

No. Opportunities for cooperation already exist through membership of the Welsh Joint Education Committee and the various purchasing consortia. I am not aware of any deficiency in these arrangements which would justify our intervention.

Business Information Services

asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether he is still satisfied that information services for these considering or likely to consider setting up businesses in Wales are adequately co-ordinated to give maximum help and advice.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave him on 10 November 1981.—[Vol. 12, c. 51–52.]If the hon. Member has a particular case or situation in mind I will gladly look into it.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many organisations involved the support, creation or development of small businesses within Wales are financially aided directly or through his Department; and if he will list them.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave him on 18 June 1980.—[Vol. 986, c. 571–72.]

Select Committee On Welsh Affairs

asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether he will give further consideration to the recommendations in the first report of the Select Committee on Welsh Affairs of Session 1980–81, HC 731—I.

The report was welcome by the Government as a contribution to informed and constructive debate of the problems and questions facing the Principality. It remains so. Its recommendations overall are kept under review while those accepted or endorsed in the Government's response in December 1980 have been acted on or monitored.

Abortion

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what were the total numbers of legal abortions performed in Wales in 1978, 1979 and 1980, respectively; and what were the total numbers of non-National Health Service abortions performed in Wales in 1978, 1979 and 1980, respectively.

Number of dwellings completed
*1945195019651975197919801981 (First 9 months)
Public Sector157,75410,0238,3364,3514,6222,969
Private Sector261,2659,5018,9006,9145,7273,320
* April 1945–December 1945.
Provisional

Information Technology

asked the Secretary of State for Wales, further to the Prime Minister's statement on 2 July 1981, Official Report, c. 463, what arrangements are to be made by the Welsh Office to make information technology readily available to industry, commerce and local government in Wales.

My Department is following up the promotion, use and development of information technology, in contact with sectors in Wales most likely

The total numbers of legal abortions notified in Wales under the terms of the Abortion Act 1967 are given in the following table. There were no non-NHS abortions in over this period.

Legal abortions notified in Wales 1978–1980
Legal abortions
19783,552
19793,617
19803,490

Infant Mortality

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what was the infant mortality rate for each health authority area in Wales for 1980 and each year over the last five years.

The information is given in the following table:

Infant Mortality Rates* 1976–1980 by health authority
19761977197819791980
Clwyd13·714·312·111·511·7
Dyfed11·313·410·515·09·7
Gwent13·213·014·510·811·2
Gwynedd11·113·511·010·09·2
Mid Glamorgan14·615·715·511·811·6
Powys15·87·719·19·96·7
South Glamorgan12·512·612·213·813·8
West Glamorgan16·312·812·514·312·5
* Deaths under one year per 1,000 live births

House Building

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many houses were built in (a) the private sector and (b) the public sector in Wales, respectively, during each of the following years: 1945, 1950, 1965, 1975, 1979, 1980 and 1981.

The information requested is given in the following table:to benefit from its application, in a variety of ways including full participation in Information Technology Year 1982, encouragement of the microelectronics in education programme with the establishment of a regional information centre in Cardiff, schemes to develop information technology centres, and the installation of microcomputers in secondary schools.

Electrical Goods Manufacturers (Grants)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many grants, and of what, have been made in Wales under section 7 of the industry Act to domestic electrical goods manufacturers in the past five years.

During the last five years grants totalling £978,500 have been Made against three offers of assistance under section 7 of the Industry Act 1972 for projects in Wales classified to minimum list heading 368 of the 1968 Standard Classification. The total value of the three offers concerned, one of which was made more than five years ago, is £3,191,500.

Disabled Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many registered disabled people were unemployed in Wales at the latest date for which information is available; and what is the comparable figure for May 1979.

Port Talbot (Factories)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what plans he has to build more factories in the Port Talbot travel-to-work area when the current building programme under the special help for steel areas is completed.

The Welsh Development Agency expects to start work during the coming year on the first advance factory units at Baglan Moors.

Employment

Deptford Skillcentre

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will set out the courses to be offered at the Deptford skillcentre, the number of places to be provided and the estimated annual running costs.

The following courses are proposed at the South-East London skillcentre (Deptford).

ClassNumber of places
Basic Industrial Electronics*12
Brick Laying (two classes)28
Carpentry and Joinery (two classes)28
Centre Lathe Turning10
Domestic House Servicing*12
Fast Food Servicing*10
Heating and Ventilating Fitting12
Industrial Electronics12
Instrument Maintenance12
Motor Vehicle Repair and Maintenance (two classes)24
Plumbing12
Radio and TV Servicing12
Screen Process Printing12
Sheet Metal Work12
Toolmaking Fitting and Machining10
TOTAL PLACES218
* Young Persons Course.
It is estimated that the annual running costs of the South-East London skillcentre, exclusive of trainee allowances, will be £970,000.

It is likely that other classes will be added to the class mix once the skillcentre becomes operational.

Youth Opportunities Programme

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will now reimburse all those participating in youth opportunities schemes for travelling expenses to from work; and if he will make a statement.

All young people participating on the youth opportunities programme may be reimbursed for travelling expenses in excess of £4 per week. I shall be making an announcement shortly about allowances payable under the programme.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will now introduce full trade union rights and rates of pay into the youth opportunities scheme; and if he will make a statement.

No. The youth opportunities programme is a training programme, and trainees receive an allowance which is fixed by Government and not determined by collective negotiations. Subject to that, if trainees wish to be represented by a union that is a matter for them to agree with their sponsors. I am currently considering the level of the allowance and will make a statement shortly.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) what is the total cost of the youth opportunities programme scheme for 16 to 19-year-olds; if he will break down this total according to the cost of (a) payments for allowances to trainees and (b) to teaching and supervisory staff; and if he will detail any other major costs;(2) how many 16 to 19-year-olds are currently in youth opportunities programme schemes; and what is the average length of such courses.

Wage Rates

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the correlation between basic wage rates and average earnings (a) in manufacturing industry and (b) in the non-manufacturing public sector.

The new earnings survey provides a breakdown of average weekly earnings between overtime pay, payments by results and so on, pay, shift and so on, premium pay and all other pay. The last category will correspond broadly with "basic" pay, although it will also include some allowances not covered in the previous categories, for example, London weighting.The following figures relate to manual male employees whose pay was not affected by absence in the survey period in April 1980.

£ per week

Industry group (Standard Industrial Classification 1968)

Average gross weekly earnings

"Basic" earnings (average gross weekly earnings excluding overtime, PBR, etc., pay and shift premium pay)

Manufacturing industries (Orders III to XIX)115·284·5
Main non-manufacturing industries which are predominantly in the public sector:
Coal-mining (MLH 101)146·598·0
Gas, water and electricity (Order XXI)127·698·6
Railways (MLH 701)108·669·2
Postal services and telecommunications (MLH 708)108·381·2
Educational services (MLH 872)90·274·7
Medical and dental services (MLH 874)106·074·9
Public administration (Order XXVII)99·773·8

Source: New Earnings Survey 1980: Part A Table 4.

Comparable figures for manual female employees and non-manual employees can be derived from tables 5 to 7 of the 1980 report.

Retraining

asked the Secretary of State for Employment to what extent Government retraining schemes take account of regional labour shortages.

Under the training opportunities scheme, which provides training and retraining for unemployed people, the nature and scale of training provision is matched to the anticipated demand for skills at local, regional and national levels, taking into account current skill shortages and projections of manpower demand.

Labour Shortages

asked the Secretary of State for Employment which sectors of United Kingdom industry and services are currently short of labour.

There are currently few indications that employers in any sector are experiencing difficulty in satisfying their labour requirements.

Unemployment Statistics

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the total number of unemployed people in the United Kingdom; and what is his estimate of the number of non-registered unemployed.

At 8 October the number of people registered as unemployed in the United Kingdom was 2,988,644. I have nothing to add to the answer about estimates of the non-registered unemployed which I gave to the hon. Member for Wolverhampton, North-East (Mrs. Short) on 27 July—[Vol. 9, c.316].

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many registered unemployed there were at the latest available date.

At 8 October, the number of people registered as unemployed in the United Kingdom was 2,988,644.

Confederation Of British Industry

asked the Secretary of State for Employment when he intends meeting the Confederation of British Industry to discuss its views on further employment legislation; and if he will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend has had a number of discussions with representatives of the Confederation of British Industry about its views on further employment legislation. We are, of course, ready to meet it at any time.

Earnings

asked the Secretary of State for Employment by how much the earnings of the highest decile of non-manual men and the lowest decile of manual men, respectively, increased between 1980 and 1981, as shown by the new earnings survey.

The required increases can be obtained from the figures for April 1980 and April 1981 which were published in Employment Gazette for October 1980 (page 1093) and October 1981 (page 446) respectively.

Industrial Training Boards

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether it is his intention to abolish most of the industrial training boards; if he intends to impose on industry a general training levy and if so, at what costs to industry; and what institution he would propose to use to administer the levy.

I refer the right hon. Member to the statement made on 16 November by my right hon. Friend about industrial training boards.—[Vol. 13. c. 30.] Questions about the funding of training are being considered urgently in the framework of the "New Training Initiative" and we are aiming to issue a statement by the turn of the year.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if, in his review of the functions of industrial training boards, he will ensure the continuation of the footwear, leather and fur skin industry training board; and if he will take into consideration the possibility of combining the board with the clothing and allied products industrial training board.

Contract Cleaners

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what discussions he plans to have with union representatives on contract cleaners.

I shall be meeting the TUC and representatives of the unions concerned to discuss the report later this month.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what steps he proposes to take following the publication of the Advisory, Conciliation and Arbitration Service report on the contract cleaning industry.

Since the report was published, my right hon. Friend has sought the views of organisations of employers and workers, and other interested parties on the report and its conclusions. As part of this consultation, I shall be meeting the TUC and the unions concerned.

16 To 19-Year-Olds

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many 16 to 19-year-olds and what proportion of the age group are (a) in full-time work and (b) unemployed.

I shall reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.

YearNumber of EstablishmentsPercentage Inspected*Percentage found to be underpayingArrears paid to workers
£
197017,73910·424·87,865
197117,0289·523·98,391
197216,5179·127·89,775
197316,1979·422·310,844
197416,3038·224·710,810
197515,6297·829·715,739
197615,1526·340·232,623
197714,9686·340·063,869
197814,2486·933·145,707
197911,48610·625·031,713
198010,8989·432·362,844
* As the inspectorate concentrates its resources on areas where underpayments are most likely to be found, these percentages cannot be taken as typical of all establishments.
A statistical count of the number of workers in establishments covered by the clothing industry wages council is not made. However, estimates are prepared based on the records of inspections kept by the wages inspectorate. The records, however, are not a representative sample and the resultant estimates can be regarded only as a guide. They show that the average numbers of workers during various periods since 1968 were as follows:

Average number of workers
1968–72374,500
1970–74372,500
1972–76367,000
1975–79339,750

Clothing Industry (Wages Council)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment, if he will publish a table in the Official Report showing for each year since 1970 (i) the number of establishments in the clothing industry covered by wages council minimum pay rates, (ii) the total number of workers in those establishments, (iii) the percentage of clothing establishments inspected by the wages inspectorate each year, (iv) the percentage of those inspected that were found to be illegally underpaying at least one of their workers and (v) the amount of arrears paid back to clothing workers who were found to be underpaid.

[pursuant to his reply, 16 November 1981]: The information requested, covering the corset, dressmaking and women's light clothing (England and Wales), dressmaking and women's light clothing (Scotland), ready-made and wholesale bespoke tailoring, rubber proofed garment making, shirtmaking, wholesale mantle and costume and retail bespoke tailoring wages councils, is as follows:

Sickle Cell Disease

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will arrange for the managers and staff of employment offices to advise employers about the work capabilities of people with sickle cell disease to ensure that such people are not unfairly discriminated against.

[pursuant to his reply, 16 November 1981]: When Manpower Services Commission staff are talking to an employer about an individual with sickle cell disease they would, on the basis of the medical evidence available about that individual, explain and advise on the employment implications. They would also stress the individual's abilities. The Employment Medical Advisory Service would also be available to give advice to employers about this fortunately rare disease.

Wages Inspectorate

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many members of the wages inspectorate there are currently in employment; how many there were in 1980–81 and in 1979–80; how many visits of inspection there were in 1979–80 and in 1980–81 and in the current year so far; to what extent financially and numerically the wages inspectorate was subjected to public expenditure cuts in 1980 and 1981; and if he will make a statement.

[pursuant to his reply, 16 November 1981]: On 1 September 1981 there were 235 staff employed in the wages inspectorate, of whom 114 were outdoor inspectors. The corresponding figures were 291 and 155 on 1 September 1980 and 283 and 158 on 1 September 1979. The numbers of inspections by visit were 34,807 in 1979, 34,657 in 1980 and 20,277 in 1981 (January to October).In November 1980 the Government announced a reduction in the number of posts allocated to the inspectorate. The number of posts is being reduced to 221½, and there will be commensurate financial advantages.At current staffing levels, and with improved methods of operation, it is anticipated that some 34,000 checks, including 24,000 inspections by visit, will have been completed by the end of December 1981.

European Community

Research Projects

asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will list the locations in the United Kingdom of all EEC research projects which are being undertaken at present; and if he will specify the work being done and the numbers employed.

The main Community research project in the United Kingdom is the Joint European Torus—JET—which is researching the production of energy from fusion, and which is established in Oxfordshire as a joint undertaking under the Euratom treaty. It is the largest single research project under the Community, and will represent £35 million, or roughly 15 per cent. of the Community estimated payments from the research budget in 1981. It currently has a staff of 270.The European Commission is also responsible for implementing the research programmes agreed by member States, and for placing contracts with research establishments, universities and industry. There are a very large number of these, many of which are quite small. There is no comprehensive list available, while the details of some are also regarded as commercially confidential. We know that a large number are placed in the United Kingdom.

Lord President Of The Council

Press And Public Relations Officers

asked the Lord President of the Council how many press and public relations officers are currently employed in the Departments for which he is responsible; what is the total cost per annum; and what were the comparable figures for May 1979 and May 1980.

None. In May 1979 and May 1980 there were two press officers assigned to the then Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster in his capacities as Leader of the House of Commons and Minister for the Arts, at a total cost of £19,829 and £22,377 per annum respectively.

House Of Commons

Members' Secretaries (Pensions)

asked the Lord President of the Council how many hon. Members have taken up the option of providing pensions for their private secretaries at the latest date.

Defence

Married Quarters (Woolwich)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many married quarters in the Woolwich area were empty at the most recent convenient date; for what reasons; and what steps he is taking to ensure that living accommodation is put to good use.

On 15 October there were 34 Army married quarters empty in the Woolwich area, all awaiting roof repairs. These repairs are expected to be completed in about six months. There are currently over 50 Army personnel on the waiting list for married accommodation in the area and these quarters will be re-occupied as soon as they can be made available. Two out of 16 houses on lease from the local authority for use by Ministry of Defence police are empty at the moment, but it is expected that these will be re-occupied very shortly.The Ministry of Defence has an active programme for the disposal of married quarters which become surplus to requirements but none are at present surplus in the Woolwich area.

Lieutenant-Colonel Seward

asked the Secretary of State for Defence, further to his reply to the hon. Member for Lewisham, West on 29 October, if he will now give the precise terms of the charges to be brought or which have been brought against Lieutenant-colonel Seward.

It is not normal practice to publish the precise terms of charges in advance of the trial itself as this may prejudice the interests of the accused. They are normally made public the day before the trial and I shall see that the hon. Member is informed on that day.

Industry

Cable And Wireless Ltd

asked the Secretary of State for Industry (1) what was the final allocation of the total shares of Cable and Wireless Ltd. to applicants requesting under 1,000 shares; and if he is satisfied with this allocation to small investors;(2) under whose auspices the Cable and Wireless Ltd. share ballot was conducted;

(3) how many applicants for fewer than 1,000 shares in Cable and Wireless Ltd. received none; and how many applicants for over 1,000 shares received more.

The figures below relate to applications: it is not possible to distinguish between applications and applicants. They do not include applications from employees, which were met in full. Approximately 187,400 applications for fewer than 1,000 shares were unsuccessful in the share ballot and received no shares. Approximately 10,200 applications received more than 1,000 shares.About 20·5 million shares were allocated to applications for under 1,000 shares. This represents 15 per cent. of the total shares offered whereas applications at that level were made for 9 per cent. of the total number of shares applied for. The Government are satisfied with this relatively favourable allocation to small investors.The share ballot was conducted under the auspices of a notary public.

Offshore Oil Construction Yards

asked the Secretary of State for Industry which offshore oil construction yards received assistance from public funds during 1981 and in each case of how much; and if he will give comparable details for 1980 and 1979.

Three offers of regional selective assistance valued at £1·3 million were made to offshore oil construction yards under section 7 of the Industry Act 1972 in the period 1979 to September 1981.It is not the practice to disclose details of such assistance other than in accordance with the arrangements announced by the then Secretary of State for Industry on 31 July 1974.

Information Technology

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will give a detailed breakdown to show how and in what areas the £60 million for information technology is to be spent.

The Department of Industry has allocated money for the support of various information technologies in the following way:

  • Microprocessor Awareness Project—£55 million (commenced 1978)
  • Microelectronic Industry Support Programmes—£55 million (commenced 1978)
  • Information Technology Awareness and Product Development—£80 million (over 4 years—commencing 1981)
  • Fibre Optics and Opto-Electronics Scheme—£25 million (over 5 years commencing 1981)
  • Support for Industrial Robots—£10 million (over 3 years—commencing 1981)
  • CAD/CAM Awareness Programme—£6 million (over 3 years—commencing 1981)
In addition research and development is commissioned by the Electronics and Avionics Requirements Board, which in its last year of operation as the Computers, Systems and Electronics Requirements Board (1980–1) amounted to £6 million. Also some of the projects supported under the Department's other requirements boards and the general product and process development scheme fall in the information technology field.

All these schemes are demand related and actual outturn may differ from forecast, but in a full year of operation these allocations represent an annual expenditure of over £60 million.

Further support for information technology is provided by the Department's space programme, currently amounting to £45 million per annum and by British Telecom's research programme, currently £100 million per annum.

Microcomputers (Schools)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he is satisfied that there will be a microcomputer in every school by 1982; and when he expects to extend the scheme to primary schools.

Some 1,900 applications have now been processed under the Department of Industry micros in schools scheme. When the scheme opened in June the Department estimated there could be between 2,500 and 3,000 secondary schools without micro equipment. The Secretary of State is confident progress so far suggests we are well on the way to meeting the first objective of a microcomputer in every secondary school by the end of 1982. From 1 January 1982 those secondary schools which already had equipment can also participate in the scheme.The Secretary of State hopes it will prove possible to develop the scheme for primary schools within the next year.

Information Technology (Pactel Report)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he has seen a copy of the report prepared by the consultants Pactel for the National Enterprise Board on information technology; what comments he has received; and if he is now satisfied, in the light of the report, that the United Kingdom is spending enough in this area; and if he will make a statement.

I have received a copy of the report from the National Enterprise Board; no comments on it have been made to me by other bodies. There has been a major shift of the Department of Industry's resources in the direction of high technology industries and, as the report recognises, the Government are making very substantial funding available in the information technology area. I would also draw attention to the initiatives taken by the Government which have been set out in the response on 2 November to the ACARD report on information technology.

Regional Aids

asked the Secretary of State for Industry when he expects to carry out his review of regional aids for areas due to lose intermediate area status in August 1982, having lost development area status in August 1980.

Northern Ireland

Northern Ireland Office (Staffing)

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many members of the Northern Ireland Civil Service currently are employed at the Northern Ireland Office; and what positions they hold.

The number of Northern Ireland civil servants employed at the Northern Ireland Office, mainly on law and order functions, at the end of October was 1,299. The figure was made up as follows:

Number
Administration460
Civilian Search Oficers320
Typists139
Scientific Staff75
Security Guards41
Law Clerks52
Prison Industries39
Prison Education and Vocational Training47
Other Grades126
1,299

Press And Public Relations Officers

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many press and public relations officers are currently employed in his Department; what is the total cost per annum; and what were the comparable figures for May 1979 and May 1980.

The information is as follows:

NumberCost
1 May 197925£229,000
1 May 198024£302,000
31 October 198123£307,000

Manufacturing Production

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what has been the change in the level of manufacturing production in Northern Ireland since 1973.

The Northern Ireland index of manufacturing production for 1973 was 111 (1975=100). The corresponding figure for the last full year, 1980, was 93. This represents a decline of 16 per cent.

Lagan College, Belfast

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (1) if he is satisfied that the new non-sectarian Lagan college in Belfast has adequate financial support to become a viable institution; and if he will make a statement.(2) when the Government intend to give financial support to the new non-sectarian Lagan college in Belfast; and if he will make a statement.

Lagan college has been established as an independent school, not as a grant-aided school, and the question of financial support from public funds does not, therefore, arise. Whether or not the school has adequate financial support to become a viable institution is a matter for the founders, the All Children Together Charitable Trust.

Non-Sectarian Integrated Education

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he is satisfied that the Government and other institutions are doing enough to promote the idea of non-sectarian integrated education in Northern Ireland; and if he will make a statement.

The Government have made it clear on many occasions that they will encourage integrated education wherever there is a local wish for it and will support practical proposals put forward in response to local wishes. However, there is no question of forcing integration on anyone who does not want it. I am satisfied that, within this policy, the Government are doing everything they can to promote the idea of integrated education.

Prescriptions

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many prescriptions were issued in Northern Ireland for the following categories in 1980 and so far in 1981; tranquillisers, non-barbiturate hypnotics and anti-depressants.

I regret the information is not available in the form requested. Prescriptions dispensed for tranquillisers, non-barbiturate hypnotics and antide-pressants are included in the groups below:

GroupPrescriptions Dispensed (Thousands)
19801981 (to 30 April)
Sedatives and Tranquillisers749248
Hypnotics445152
Anti-depressants15955
Anti-depressants and Sedative/ Tranquilliser Combinations289

Consolidated Fund

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how much subvention was received by the Northern Ireland Consolidated Fund during the last five financial years; and if he will include in this figure any additional relevant sums such as agricultural subsidies, payments from the Great Britain national insurance fund to the Northern Ireland national insurance fund and any expenditure borne on United Kingdom Votes.

The information is as follows:

£ million
1976–77620
1977–78*688
1978–79848
1979–80944
1980–811,090
*Excludes a once-for-all payment of £250 million to write off debt of the Northern Ireland Electricity Service.

Mental Health Legislation

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland whether, following the report of the Northen Ireland review committee on mental health legislation, he intends to lay before Parliament proposals to reform the present mental health laws in Northern Ireland; and if he will make a statement.

The report of the Northern Ireland review committee on mental health legislation was published on 6 October 1981. Individuals and organisations concerned with mental health services have been invited to submit comments on the committee's recommendations by 31 January 1982. When the responses to the report have been evaluated, proposals will be made for any necessary revision of the present mental health laws in Northern Ireland.

Housing Grants

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland whether the levels of grant available for house insulation and for other housing purposes are the same in Northern Ireland as they are in the rest of the United Kingdom.

The levels of house renovation grants—including insulation grants—in Northern Ireland are, with minor exceptions, the same as those in the rest of the United Kingdom.

Transport

Jubilee Line

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what is the latest available estimate of the cost of extending the Jubilee line to Thamesmead.

London Transport estimated in September this year that it would cost about £440 million.

East London River Crossing

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what is the estimated construction time required for the completion of the East London river crossing.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport (1) whether, in view of certain distribution difficulties, he will extend the closing date of 25 November for the receipt of questionnaires in connection with the East London river crossing;(2) how many copies of his Department's brochure and questionnaire were distributed to homes in the area affected by the East London river crossing; and what further consultation is planned to ensure that public views are properly considered.

There were 6,629 copies distributed to homes, shops and businesses, a series of exhibitions has been held in Plumstead, Beckton and Woolwich and there has been extensive coverage in the national and local press, television and local radio, combined with paid press advertisements and the display of posters outside borough offices and in shops. The next step will be to analyse the responses we receive. Questionnaires returned in time for that process will be considered even if received after the deadline of 25 November.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what are the estimated current costs of (a) bridge construction, (b) road construction, (c) the acquisition of housing and (d) the acquisition of other property in connection with the proposed East London river crossing; and how these figures are expected to rise to take account of inflation by the time the project is actually completed.

The current estimate for the construction of all structures including bridges is £62 million of which £34 million is for the main bridge across the Thames. Road construction is expected to cost £26 million, including consequential statutory undertakers' works. Acquisition of housing and other property for the scheme has not at this stage been costed separately. The current estimate for land and property is £15 million. As for the future, I have no reason at the moment to suppose that the costs will rise out of line with general prices.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what is the estimated reduction in the likely number of homes to be built at Thamesmead as a result of the decision to build a new bridge as part of the proposed East London river crossing.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what are the comparative estimated costs of a bridge and a tunnel at Thamesmead as part of the proposed East London river crossing.

The current estimates for a bridge and a tunnel are £34 million and £47 million respectively.

Press And Public Relations Officers

asked the Secretary of State for Transport how many press and public relations officers are currently employed in his Department; what is the total cost per annum; and what were the comparable figures for May 1979 and May 1980.

The information is as follows:

Number£ (cash) Average salaries and employer's NI
1 May 1979772,073*
1 May 1980790,329
1 November 1981686,980
* The cash figure for May 1979 is calculated differently from that provided in the answer of 12 February 1980—[Vol. 978, c. 595.]

Road Signs

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what is the prescribed distance from the junction between a minor and a major road within which the upright "Give Way" sign must be located.

There is no prescribed siting distance for "give way" signs in relation to junctions. The location of the sign must have regard to the particular site conditions in each case. The Department's traffic signs manual advises that these signs should normally be sited about 5ft. in advance of the "give way" line across the minor road, and not more than 20ft. in advance of it.

Land Compensation Act 1973

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will take steps to ensure that houses built by self-build housing associations which have ceased to exist having completed their building programmes are eligible for compensation for the adverse effects of motorways under the Land Compensation Act 1973 in the same way as other local houses similarly affected.

Normally a self-build housing association or its members should be able to claim compensation under part I of the Land Compensation Act 1973 for any depreciation in the value of their interest caused by the use of a new motorway. This may not be possible where the transfer took place before the announcement of the proposed legislation on 17 October 1972, but after the motorway was opened.My hon. Friend may have a particular case in mind. I will look into it if he would care to write to me with full details of the financial arrangements between the association and its members and any evidence that loss has been suffered.

Social Services

Unemployment Benefit

58.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he has any plans to change the basis on which unemployment benefit is paid.

We have no plans to change the contributory basis on which unemployment benefit is paid. If my hon. Friend has any specific point in mind, perhaps he would let me know.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will consider relaxing the conditions relating to unemployment benefit to encourage the taking up of part-time work.

I refer my hon. Friend to my reply to the hon. Member for Wolverhampton, North-East (Mrs. Short) on 21 October—[Vol. 10, c. 157–58]—about the proposed increase from 75p to £2 a day in the earnings limit for people receiving unemployment benefit.

Homeless Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list each of the voluntary organisations currently receiving grants from his Department under schedule 5 to the Supplementary Benefits Act 1976 for the provision of temporary board and lodging for single homeless people; and if he will specify the amount of grant made to each organisation for each of the years 1979,1980 and the current year.

The following table lists the voluntary projects which currently receive grants under schedule 5 to the Supplementary Benefits Act 1976—as amended—with the amount of grant approved for the financial year 1981–82 and the amounts paid in each of the two previous financial years. Until November 1980 grants were made by the Supplementary Benefits Commission. In 1980–81 unspent grant which remained at the end of the year because of a shortfall in successive applications was used to make a once-and-for-all allocation of £200 to each project, apart from one project where a reduction in the grant was agreed, and five projects which received more substantial increases which were planned as soon as funds became available.

Name of Voluntary Organisation

Amount Approved 1981–82

Amount Paid 1980–81

Amount Paid 1979–80

£

£

£

Aberdeen Cyrenians3,9003,7003,500
Birmingham, Committee for Night Shelter6,1005,7005,500
Birmingham, St. Anne's5,0003,2003,000
Birmingham, St. Basil's6,0006,2006,000
Brighton, YMCA4,4004,0003,000
Cambridge Cyrenians1,1001,2001,000
Cardiff Cyrenians3,3003,2003,000
Coventry Cyrenians4,4004,2004,000
Edinburgh, People's Palace5,5005,2005,000
Exeter Shilhay4,4004,2004,000
Glasgow, Kirkhaven2,8002,7002,500
Guildford Cyrenians2,2002,000
Leeds Cyrenians1,1001,2001,000
Liverpool Metropolitan Cathedral Crypt3,3003,2003,000
London, Bondway12,10011,20011,000
London, Centrepoint7,7007,2007,000
London, Theatre Girls Club7,7007,2007,000
Lowestoft Night Shelter3,3003,2003,000
Manchester Night Shelter7,7007,2007,000
Norwich Night Shelter5,5005,2005,000
Nottingham, Help the Homeless3,6003,5003,300
Oxford Cyrenians6,6006,2006,000
Plymouth Night Shelter3,3003,0002,000
Portsmouth, Harbour Community1,500
Portsmouth, St. Petroc's Community Trust3,9003,7003,500
Preston, Homeless in3,3003,2003,000
Sheffield, Joint Standing Committee5,5005,2003,000
Southampton, Goodwill Centre1,1001,2001,000
Stockton Churches Mission to the Single Homeless4,4004,0002,000
Stoke, Potteries Housing Association3,9003,500
Swansea, SASH3,9003,7003,500
Swindon Cyrenians2,800
Taunton Association for the Homeless4,4004,0002,000
Tyneside Cyrenians4,4004,2006,000
Wolverhampton Overnight Shelter Group4,8004,6004,400
Worcester St. Paul's3,3003,2003,000

"Care In The Community"

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether additional finance will be made available to local authorities to meet extra costs associated with the transfer of a greater proportion of health responsibility to the community in general in line with proposals contained in the consultative document "Care in the Community"; how many extra staff he estimates local authorities will require, particularly in social service departments; and if he will ensure that in providing any additional finances for local authority community care there will be no corresponding reduction in National Health Service provision.

The consultative document makes it clear that the suggestions for transferring patients and resources from hospital to the personal social services must be implemented within planned resources. Detailed arrangements, including staffing, would be determined locally in consultation with staff interests, taking account of local circumstances and opportunities.

Kidney Failure (Treatment)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether the facilities for treating chronic renal failure—haemodialysis and renal transplantation—have improved since the report in 1980 by the Office of Health Economics that between 1,000 and 2,000 people were dying whose lives could have been prolonged: and whether persons aged over 50 years are now likely to be able to start dialysis.

Facilities for treating chronic renal failure are continuing to expand, although they are still insufficient to meet all estimated needs. The report by the Office of Health Economics was based on the 1978 figure of 19·2 new patients accepted for treatment per million population. The comparable figure in 1980 was 24·6 new patients per million population.On the second part of the question, I refer the hon. Member to my replies to my hon. Friend the Member for Exeter (Mr. Hannam) on 26 October 1981,—[Vol. 10, c.

266–67]. The number of patients starting treatment over the age of 45 grew substantially over the period 1976–78; an age breakdown for later years is not yet available.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what steps he proposes to take to encourage the use of continuous ambulatory peritoneal dialysis as a replacement for kidney dialysis treatment.

I refer my hon. Friend to my hon. Friend's reply to the hon. Member for Eccles (Mr. Carter-Jones) on 29 October 1981—[Vol. 10, c. 449.]

Retirement Benefit

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what would be the cost of allowing those who have been unemployed for more than 12 months and who have reached the age of 60 years to be eligible for retirement benefit.

On the assumption that the numbers did not change £130 million at average 1981–82 benefit rates.

General Practitioners

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will investigate the complaints made at the Association of Community Health Councils regarding general practitioner services, in particular relating to the difficulties experienced by patients in seeing the general practitioners with whom they are registered, the content of general practitioner mandatory training, the extensive use of deputising services, particularly between 6 pm and 8 am and the urgent need to reduce the average numbers of patients on the list of each family medical practitioner.

I read the comments of the Association of CHCs with interest. As independent contractors, family doctors are responsible, within their terms of service, for the organisation of their practices and for the actions of staff whom they employ. Patients are usually free to register with the doctor of their choice and there are procedures at local level for investigating complaints against practitioners.The content of training for general practitioners is a matter for the professional bodies concerned. It is the responsibility of professional advisory committees and family practitioner committees respectively to ensure satisfactory standards 'for the appropriate usage of deputising arrangements. The average list size permitted for a doctor is 3,500. The average list size at 1 October 1980 for England and Wales was 2,238; a reduction of 39 on the preceding year; this reflects an underlying trend towards smaller doctor's lists.

Junior Doctors

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what progress has so far been achieved in ensuring that junior hospital doctors do not have to work longer than 80 hours per week; and whether the attitude of consultants is obstructing further advances in the working conditions of junior doctors.

The objective of an 80-hour limit on contracted hours—including on-call time—has been agreed with representatives of all hospital doctors: consultants and juniors. The Department has been discussing with the profession how contracted hours can be reduced, and some limited changes in the terms and conditions of service to encourage this were introduced this year. Long hours arise from the need to provide round the clock medical cover, however, and substantial reductions cannot be achieved without a fundamental change in working patterns in hospitals. In the longer term our recently announced intention to increase the number of consultants will help to bring this about by ensuring that a greater proportion of direct patient care will be provided by fully trained practitioners. Meanwhile, with the profession we will continue to search for ways to reduce contracted hours while maintaining adequate cover.

Beta-Blocking Drugs

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will consider setting up an investigation into the usage of powerful beta-blocking drugs on such occasions as examinations when a false sense of calmness is apparently produced.

No. Beta-blocking drugs are available on prescription only, and some are licensed for the treatment of anxiety. Their usage for this purpose is a matter for the clinical judgment of doctors.

Camberwell Resettlement Unit

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he expects to meet representatives of the London Boroughs Association and the Greater London Council to discuss and decide on the next stage in the provision of supportive services in London required to replace the Camberwell resettlement unit; and when he will make a statement of the assistance he will provide to these authorities.

My hon. Friend the Minister for Housing and Construction and my hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State for Health and Social Security are due to meet the London Boroughs Association and GLC members on 18 November, and hope to be able to make a statement shortly after that meeting.

Fluoride

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the daily requirement of fluoride in milligrams per kilogram of weight of the human body to establish good health; and what action is taken to ensure that the compulsory adding of fluoride to the public water supplies does not exceed this dosage.

No official recommended total daily intake of fluoride has been defined since the small, but variable fluoride content of an individual's solid diet cannot be readily assessed or controlled. The evidence which is available on the effect of fluoride intake is in terms of its effect in water supplies, which is a major determinant of total intake, or of supplementary dosages for children. One part per million is recommended as giving the optimal dental benefit and I am advised that, at that level, taking into account the total amount ingested from the diet, there is no sound evidence of danger to health. Careful regular checks of fluoride levels are undertaken by the water authorities operating fluoridation systems, the results of which are monitored by this Department and the Department of the Environment.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will arrange for an independent public inquiry to be held into the advisability or otherwise of the compulsory fluoridation of the public water supplies and the voluntary use of fluoride tablets by those who wish to have their water fluoridated.

No. The Government are satisfied of e safety and efficiancy of fluoridation of water supplies, which has been demonstrated by numerous soundly based scientific studies.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will take action to stop the compulsory medication of people by the fluoridation of public water supplies and to enable those who are against such medication to have water supplies without fluoridation.

The Government's policy is that the decision to seek to introduce the fluoridation of water supplies is for health authorities locally. Water authorities are encouraged to comply with health authorities' requests to fluoridate. The Government have no plans for legislation to compel authorities to introduce fluoridation but continue to believe that progress should be made with the consent of those concerned locally.

Widows (Retirement Pensions)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services on what grounds a retirement pension received by a widow over the age of 60 years on the basis of her late husband's contributions is not affected by a subsequent remarriage.

The conditions for receipt for retirement pension are essentially linked to the contingency of retirement or deemed retirement beyond a certain age; and once in hand the retirement pension is not affected by remarriage. However, the conditions for widows benefits below pension age are linked to the state of widowhood; and so such benefits cease on remarriage.It is possible for a widow in receipt of a basic retirement pension, which happens to be less than the standard rate of a dependent wife's pension, to have it increased on remarriage to the level of dependent wife's pension in consequence of her second husband's insurance record.

Dr Leonard Fagin

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what representations the Minister of Health has received from Dr. Leonard Fagin about alleged misrepresentation of the conclusions of his report on unemployment and health; and what reply has been sent.

Dr. Fagin wrote to me on 29 October. I replied to him on 13 November; and I have placed copies of both letters in the Library of the House.

Disabled Persons (Telephones)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many disabled people there are in Liverpool, and in the constituency of Liverpool, Walton, who require to have a telephone installed and have been accepted for installation by the social services department of the city council and have not had it installed due to lack of money or for other reasons.

This information is not held centrally. The hon. Member may wish to approach the local authority direct.

Family Practitioner Committees

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he is yet in a position to make a statement on the future of the family practitioner committees.

As part of the reorganisation of the health service and the setting up of the new district health authorities it is necessary to consider the future of the family practitioner committees—should they be independent bodies or should they be a part of the new district authorities. My right hon. Friend has studied carefully the responses to the consultative paper issued in March. He has concluded that establishing family practioner committees as health authorities in their own right, with powers to engage their own staff, is most likely both to facilitate the development of primary care services and lead to increased efficiency in the administration of the family practitioner services. We shall when time permits seek the legislation necessary to introduce these new arrangements but this cannot be fitted into the Government's programme for the present Session. Interim arrangements will need to be made since for the time being the present statutory position will remain. The decision will in no way affect the Government's intention to reduce the proportion of total NHS resources spent on management by 10 per cent. by the end of the financial year 1984–85.

Personal Social Services (Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what study he has made of the third survey of personal social services expenditure undertaken by the Association of Directors of Social Services; what action he is taking; and if he will make a statement on the survey's finding that 31 local authorities have reduced their social services budgets for 1981–82 compared with last year.

I have read the survey's finding with interest, and they are being studied in my Department. I shall be in a position to set out my view of them in the next few days.

Neonatal Cots

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the number of neonatal cots in each regional health authority at the latest available date; and what change this represents in each case since the publication of the Select Committee on Social Services report on perinatal and neonatal mortality.

The numbers of neonatal intensive care cots in each region at March 1980, given by the Department to the Social Services Committee and published in its report on perinatal and neonatal mortality—second report, Session 1979–80, HC 663-V, pages 96–7—are the latest figures available centrally.

Geriatric Beds

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the shortfall of geriatric beds in each of the area health authorities in the Trent region.

In my reply to the hon. Member on 9 June 1981—[Vol. 6, c. 249–50]—I gave him some information based on 1979 data. Data for 1980 will be available shortly and I shall reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible thereafter.

Finance (Rother Area)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will ensure that moneys available for the National Health Service in the Rother area will meet existing need over the next three years.

Financial allocations to Rotherham area health authority are made by Trent regional health authority, and it will be for that authority to consider what allocations to make to Rotherham within the overall amount of money available to the region.

Heating Costs

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what studies are being undertaken by his Department on dangers to health, and in particular hypothermia, arising from the difficulties of those in receipt of low incomes and benefits in heating adequately their accommodation.

None; but there is a Medical Research Council-supported programme of research into the biomedical and physiological aspects of hypothermia.

Walsall (Hospital Facilities)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will state the progress in the improvement and extension of hospital facilities in the borough of Walsall.

The West Midlands regional health authority was given approval in December 1980 to proceed with further planning on phases IV and IVb of the Walsall district general hospital. I understand that the RHA expects a start on the Manor hospital site to take place during the summer of 1983. Other plans to develop hospital services include major extensions to the out-patient department at the Manor hospital and an upgrading programme at St. Margaret's hospital which includes four new mental health units currently under construction. The RHA's operational capital programme 1981–82 to 1984–85 also envisages the construction of a community hospital at Aldridge and the redevelopment of Goscote hospital for long-stay patients.

Young Persons (Unemployment Benefit)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many 16 to 19-year-olds draw unemployment or, because of unemployment, supplementary benefit; and what is the total cost of paying benefit to this group of claimants.

At the latest date for which estimates are available, late 1980, the number of unemployed 16 to 19-year-olds receiving unemployment benefit, unemployment benefit with supplementary allowance, or supplementary allowance only, was 325,000. The total weekly cost after the November 1980 uprating is estimated at £6·3 million.

Sources: Unemployment Benefit Statistics, November 1980, Annual Statistical Inquiry, December 1980.

Totals expressed as round figures.

Nurses (Unemployment)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many nurses at the latest convenient date were registered as unemployed in each region; and how many vacancies there were in each region at the same date.

This information is not collected by the Department. The Department of Employment provides quarterly returns of the number of vacancies notified to them and of the number of nurses and midwives registered as unemployed. Not all vacancies are notified and the figures also include posts outside the NHS. On the basis of these returns the information requested is as follows:

RegionQualified Nurses and Midwives Registered Unemployed at 30 September 1981Qualified Nurses and Midwives Registered Vacancies at 30 September 1981
Northern576140
Yorkshire43174
Trent50883
East Anglian18679
NW Thames (ex Greater London)9698
NE Thames (ex Greater London)10456
SE Thames (ex Greater London)186115
SW Thames (ex Greater London)85219
Greater London578453
Wessex31191
Oxford182114
South Western451292
West Midlands658129
Mersey42581
Qualified Nurses and Midwives
RegionSeptember 1980 Registered UnemployedDecember 1980 Registered UnemployedMarch 1981 Registered UnemployedJune 1981 Registered UnemployedSeptember 1981 Registered UnemployedPer cent. Increase September 1980–September 1981 Registered Unemployed
Northern485486450449576+18·8
Yorkshire352359358420431+22·4
Trent370356400438508+37·3
East Anglian122159176165186+52·5
N.W. Thames (ex Greater London)7279909496+33·3
N.E. Thames (ex Greater London)821098988104+26·8
S.E. Thames (ex Greater London)116153148172186+60·3
S.W. Thames (ex Greater London)5175768985+66·7
Greater London422416480494578+37·0
Wessex226261249249311+37·6
Oxford115131144126182+58·3
South Western338375374392451+33·4
West Midlands413487581595658+59·3
Mersey370460415396425+14·9
North Western398445469477534+34·2
Grand Total3,9324,3514,4994,6445,311+35·1
The regions shown do not equate exactly with those of the health authorities.

Poor Households (Family Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he expects to publish the latest family expenditure survey data on the numbers of poor households; and if the material is ready for publication, if he will publish it in the Official Report.

I shall let the hon. Member have further information when estimates for 1979 become available in the next couple of months.

Tooth Decay Vaccine

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he is satisfied that the experimental use of a vaccine which may prevent tooth decay, upon staff of the Wellcome Foundation Pharmaceutical Company, involves no danger to the people concerned.

Region

Qualified Nurses and Midwives Registered Unemployed at 30 September 1981

Qualified Nurses and Midwives Registered Vacancies at 30 September 1981

North Western534140
Grand Total5,3112,164
The regions shown do not equate exactly with those of the health authorities.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many nurses have been registered as unemployed in each region for each of the last 12 months; and what has been the percentage change over the year.

This information is not collected by the Department. The Department of Employment provides quarterly returns of the number of nurses and midwives registered as unemployed and on the basis of those returns the information requested is as follows:

[pursuant to his reply, 10 November 1981, Vol. 12, c. 80]: I understand that the dental caries vaccine being developed by the Wellcome Foundation Pharmaceutical Company will not be ready for tests in man until extensive laboratory investigations for safety have been satisfactorily completed. Any clinical trials must satisfy the requirements of the Medicines Act relating to safety.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Palestinian State

asked the Lord Privy Seal what are the minimum assurances and guarantees he considers would need to be given by any Palestinian State established on the West Bank of the Jordan to safeguard the security of Israel.

Following the achievement of peace with Egypt, the best guarantee of Israel's security is the establishment of full peace through a negotiated comprehensive settlement with all its neighbours, including the Palestinians. Full acceptance of Israel's right to live in peace and security by all concerned will have to be part of such a settlement. The exact nature of assurances and guarantees of security from a Palestinian State, if one were established as a result of such a settlement, to Israel and vice versa must be a matter for negotiation between the parties concerned. The international community is likely to have a role to play in such assurances and guarantees.

asked the Lord Privy Seal in what respect he considers that the fears of Israel about the threat posed by the establishment of a Palestinian State on the West Bank and Gaza are exaggerated; and what is the basis for this view.

A Palestinian State could be established on the West Bank and Gaza only as part of a comprehensive settlement which would involve the negotiation of lasting peace between Israel and the Palestinians, including assurances and guarantees considered necessary by either side in view of the geographical nature of the border between them. Moreover such a State would be small, beset by all the problems associated with the establishment of a new State, and economically dependent on outside aid for the forseeable future. The attitude of the Palestinians both inside and outside the West Bank and Gaza does not lead us to think it likely that such a State would be a threat to Israel's security.

asked the Lord Privy Seal what factors he considers will ensure that the Palestinian mini-State, which he favours, will not be expansionist or a base for Soviet influence; and what safeguards he envisages to ensure that this is so.

I refer my hon. Friend to the other answers I have given. An important aspect of a negotiated peace settlement would be the mutual recognition of borders and rights to existence and security of all States in the region. This would naturally have to include Israel and any Palestinian State which might be set up. It is the present situation, in which the West Bank and Gaza under military occupation and in which many Palestinians have no political rights, which gives the Soviet Union great scope for expanding its influence in the Arab world.

Palestinian Problem

asked the Lord Privy Seal in what respects he considers that the Camp David approach will not be sufficient in achieving a long-term solution to the Palestinian problem; to what extent he believes that the European Community approach will provide greater justice to the Palestinians in political terms; and what he envisages these political terms will entail.

The Camp David approach envisages a transitional phase of autonomy for the West Bank and Gaza before their final status is determined in negotiations between Egypt, Israel and Jordan and the representatives of the inhabitants of the West Bank and Gaza. However, we note that this approach has been rejected by the Government of Jordan and, apparently, by most Palestinians. The approach of the Ten is based on the belief that lasting peace should involve, as part of a negotiated settlement, the determination by the Palestinians of their political future in these areas.

Environment

Rent Rebates (City Of Westminster)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many tenants in the city of Westminster will lose a maximum 75p a week in rent rebates under the proposed new unified housing benefit scheme.

Homeless Persons

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list (a) those voluntary organisations concerned with the needs of homeless people which his Department assists by way of grant, (b) those changes in legislation he has made which will be of assistance to homeless people and (c) other policy initiatives he has taken which will benefit homeless people and the work for the homeless of voluntary organisation and local authorities.

(a) The following voluntary organisations currently receive grant under section 13 of the Housing (Homeless Persons) Act 1977: SHAC—the London Housing Aid Centre; Shelter National Housing Aid Trust; After Six Housing Advisory Service; CHAR—Campaign for Single Homeless People; National Association of Voluntary Hostels; National Association for the Care and Resettlement of Offenders; Women's Aid Federation (England); and Life Care and Housing Trust. A wide range of voluntary projects assisting the homeless at local level are also grant-aided through the urban programme.

(b) The legislation specifically concerned with homelessness is the Housing (Homeless Persons) Act 1977, the operation of which is under review to see whether any changes are necessary. Among the many measures taken by the Government in the Housing Act 1980 to improve the availability of accommodation, those in the following areas will be of particular benefit to homeless people: public sector tenants' rights to take in lodgers and to sublet; shorthold and other measures to encourge lettings in the private rented sector; and special provision for temporary accommodation. The measures to promote low-cost home ownership will also be of benefit by reducing pressure on limited council accommodation.

(c) Among other, non-legislative initiatives we have taken, the following will also help alleviate homelessness. We have given encouragement to schemes for starter homes and building for sale. The reform of housing project control will allow local authorities greater flexibility to decide what standards and costs give best value for money in meeting their particular local housing needs. £12 million was allocated in 1981–82 for the Housing Corporation to assist housing associations to provide hostels for such groups as the single homeless. A number of research projects and surveys sponsored by my Department to examine the needs of the homeless and experience in provision for them should provide examples of good practice and other useful information for local authorities and voluntary bodies.

Woolwich Arsenal (Prison)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what steps he plans to take to hold a public inquiry into the proposed construction of a prison at Woolwich Arsenal following the formal objections of the London borough of Greenwich.

My right hon. Friend has decided to hold a non-statutory public local inquiry. Arrangements for the inquiry are being made and will be announced shortly.

House Building (Derbyshire)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many housing starts were made in the county of Derbyshire in the first eight months of 1981; and what are the comparable figures for 1979 and 1980.

Following is the available information:

Total Dwellings Started in Derbyshire
First Nine Months
Dwellings
19793,077
19802,047
1981*2,243
* This figure is incomplete as Bolsover district council has not submitted returns for the whole period.

Housing Services (London)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects to meet representatives of the London Boroughs Association and the Greater London Council to discuss and decide on the next stage in the provision of housing services in London required to replace the Camberwell resettlement unit; and when he will make a statement of the assistance he will provide to these authorities.

My hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State for Health and Social Security and I are due to meet LBA and GLC members on 18 November, and hope to be able to make a statement shortly after that meeting.Lodging Houses and Hostels

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will take steps to assist the Greater London council and the London boroughs to replace those London lodging houses and hostels which are closing; and whether he has discussed with the city of Westminster council and the Kensington and Chelsea borough council the closure of hostels at Bruce House and St. George's Milman's Street, Chelsea.

My hon. Friends the Minister for Housing and Construction and the Under-Secretary of State for Health and Social Security will be discussing with the Greater London council and London Boroughs Association on 18 November their proposals for hostels for the single homeless in London.My hon. Friend the Minister for Housing and Construction has already made £12 million available to the Housing Corporation for 1981–82 for hostels and it is devoting a substantial proportion of this to London.The Department has discussed the future of Bruce House with Westminster city council from time to time and would be prepared to discuss the future of this hostel further, and of St. George's with the authorities concerned should they wish.

Council House Rents

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what was the average amount paid in rents by council tenants in England and Wales in May 1979 and now; and what has been the increase in percentage terms.

Scotland

Health Authorities

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will approve for issue to health authorities in Scotland a memorandum of guidance on which they will be asked to base their arrangements for dealing with suggestions and complaints other than those relating to family general practitioners.

A departmental circular dealing with the handling of patients' complaints about the exercise of clinical judgment by hospital medical and dental staff will be issued shortly. Guidance about dealing with complaints which do not involve clinical judgment was issued in February 1970, following consideration of the report of a departmental working party on suggestions and complaints in hospitals; it was further amplified in 1976.

Blood Lead Levels

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will now make a statement on the most recent information regarding blood lead levels in pre-war housing and lead pipe water supply; and if he will consider some form of financial aid to local authorities and owner-occupiers who wish to deal with the removal of lead piping.

The Government will continue their policy publishing information as it becomes available. I have already proposed the extension of the house improvement grant scheme to enable grants to be given for the bypassing or replacement of lead plumbing. Local authorities who wish to deal with similar problems in their own houses will require to meet the cost out of their housing revenue account capital allocations.

Council Houses

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how much income from council houses in Glasgow, Edinburgh, Dundee and Aberdeen has been lost through the more recent rent increases and the inability of tenants to pay; how much interest is being paid on loans for council house building in each of these cities; and if he is now prepared to put a freeze on council house rents in view of the hardship suffered by many as a result of this economic strategy.

I am not aware of any evidence of an increase in the level of rent arrears likely to be written off as irrecoverable by any of the local authorities to which the hon. Member refers. I do not think it reasonable to suggest that the rent increases made earlier this year should be regarded as having produced a loss of income to these or other authorities.Estimated interest and loans fund expenses falling in 1981–82 on the revenue account of the four authorities are as follows:

£
Aberdeen17,910,000
Edinburgh22,136,880
Glasgow77,780,000
Dundee13,538,100

Source: Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy Rating Review.

The information available does not enable me to distinguish between costs related to new construction and costs related to other housing activities—modernisation, improvements, hostels and so on.

The Government's views about the reasonable level of average council house rents in 1982–83 will be made known in due course.

Households (Multiple Tenancies)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many householders in Scotland who completed the recent census forms indicated a multiple tenancy; where these homes were sited; and if they are council property.

Information related to multiple occupation derived from the 1981 census is not yet available but will be published during 1982. The 1981 census will provide no information on joint tenancies.

Hospital Wards (Waterproofing)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will give assistance to local health authorities to ensure that hospital wards are waterproof, in view of the situation at ward 30 Southern General hospital, Glasgow, where rainwater is collected in pans and buckets during the mildest rainfall.

Maintenance of hospital wards in a waterproof condition is the responsibility of health boards, out of the money allocated to them for running the service. I have drawn the Greater Glasgow health board's attention to the hon. Member's concern at the situation in ward 30 at the Southern general hospital, and the complaint is being investigated.

Oil Spillages

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is satisfied with the arrangements for dealing with oil spillage in the event of an accident to an oil tanker in passage down the coast of Argyll.

Strathclyde regional council, like other regional and islands authorities, maintains a contingency plan for dealing with spills on or threatening its coastline. The Department of Trade, which is responsible within the Government for dealing with oil spills at sea, and the Scottish Office provide advice and support, and would co-ordinate remedial action in the event of a spill too large for locaal authorities to deal with effectively. This voluntary framework of co-operation between local and central government has so far worked satisfactorily, but is now being reviewed in the light of recommendations of the Royal Commission on environmental pollution's recent report on oil pollution of the sea.

Electrical Goods Manufacturers (Grants)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many grants, and of what value, have been made in Scotland under section 7 of the Industry Act to domestic electrical goods manufacturers in the last five years.

In the last five years grant assistance totalling £1·8 million has been offered to four companies under section 7 of the Industry Act 1972 to aid projects to manufacture domestic electrical appliances in Scotland.

Caravan Sites

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will seek to legislate to provide that private caravan sites may be used only by travelling people.

The terms and conditions relating to the use of private caravan sites are a matter for District Councils as licensing authorities in terms of section 3(3) of the Caravan Sites and Control of Development Act 1960.

Cardiac Surgery (Edinburgh)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on the effects of a reduction in medical facilities at Edinburgh university, as recommended by the University Grants Committee, on proposals to extend facilities for cardiac surgery in Edinburgh.

The proposals to extend facilities for cardiac surgery in Edinburgh will be financed from NHS funds.

Unemployed Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list the total number of people taken off the unemployment register in (a) the Lothian region and (b) Scotland as a result of the special programmes in October of the past three years.

Information is not available in the precise form requested. The following table gives estimates of the numbers participating in the youth opportunities programme and the special temporary employment programme in (a) the Edinburgh special programmes area office area and (b) Scotland at the end of October in each of the last three years. The Edinburgh special programmes area office covers Lothian, Fife, Borders and Central regions; separate figures for Lothian region could be produced only at disproportionate cost. Comparable information for October 1981 is not yet available. For various reasons, not all participants would have registered as unemployed if they had not been on one of the programmes.

Numbers participating at end October

1978

1979

1980

Edinburgh area office area1,5404,1806,310
Scotland5,63017,00024,400

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what are the percentage increases in total unemployment in each employment exchange in the Edinburgh travel-to-work area from August 1979 to August 1981; and what are the respective figures for males and females.

The information is set out in the table below.

Increase in Unemployment from August 1979 to August 1981 as a percentage of August 1979 Unemployment
Employment Office AreaMaleFemaleTotal
Edinburgh*53·732·544·8
Edinburgh67·1134·080·3
Employment Office AreaNumbers registered as unemployed
August 1979August 1980August 1981
MaleFemaleTotalMaleFemaleTotalMaleFemaleTotal
Edinburgh 12,5491,8444,3933,0312,0945,1253,9182,4446,362
Edinburgh 23,2437984,0413,5231,2374,7605,4201,8677,287
Edinburgh 34412797205612928538454941,339
Leith1,9746592,6332,4738143,2873,3731,1124,485
Portobello1,1984171,6151,5054871,9922,0806322,712
Dalkeith8704491,3191,0646311,6951,7128692,581
Loanhead500223723525206731736251987
Musselburgh7344571,1919114831,3941,4896992,188
Penicuik180197377266239505387283670
Tranent297167464389218607609293902
Notes:Edinburgh 1—South St Andrew Street jobcentreEdinburgh 2—Shandwick Place jobcentreEdinburgh 3—Wester Hailes jobcentre

Job Vacancies (Edinburgh)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many notified job vacancies there were in each employment exchange in the Edinburgh travel-to-work area in August 1979, August 1980 and August 1981.

Employment office areaUnfilled vacancies at Employment Offices (EOs) and Careers Offices (COs)
August 1979August 1980August 1981
EOCOEOCOEOCO
Edinburgh2,7802062,122971,39725
Leith
Portobello
Dalkeith4210212323
Loanhead261218
Musselburgh8013432382
Penicuik27310219
Tranent940

Notes:

(1) The figures are not a measure of total vacancies but represent only the number of vacancies notified to employment offices and careers offices remaining unfilled on the day of the count.

(2) Because of possible duplication the figures for employment offices and careers offices should not be added together.

(3) Separate figures are not available for the Edinburgh, Leith and Portobello offices.

(4) There are no careers offices in Loanhead and Tranent.

Employment Office Area

Male

Female

Total

Edinburgh91·677·186·0
Leith70·968·770·3
Portobello73·651·667·9
Dalkeith96·893·595·7
Loanhead47·212·636·5
Musselburgh102·955·183·7
Penicuik115·043·777·7
Tranent105·175·494·4

* South St. Andrew Street jobcentre.

Shandwick Place jobcentre.

Wester Hailes jobcentre.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many people were unemployed in each employment exchange area in the Edinburgh travel-to-work area in August 1979, August 1980 and August 1981; and what are the respective figures for males and females.

Education (Places)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many full-time and part-time places he expects will be available at (a) further education colleges, (b) central institutions and (c) colleges of education in 1982–83; and if he will provide figures for the two previous years.

The full-time equivalent numbers of students enrolled in vocational further education courses at the various kinds of institution in 1980–81 and the projected numbers for 1981–82 and 1982–83 are shown in the following table. Projections are not available separately for full-time and part-time enrolments.

(thousands)
Estimated number of studentsProjected number of students
(FTE)(FTE)
1980–811981–821982–83
Further education colleges57·0*56·555·8
Central institutions13·313·714·0
Colleges of education7·3 13·7Not available
* This figure does not take account of actual enrolments at autumn 1981, for which statistics are not available. There are indications however that the projected figure will be substantially exceeded.
This figure does not take account of significant increases in student numbers likely to result from
(a) expansion of the Manpower Services' Commission Youth Opportunities Programme and of its training/further education contents;
(b) the availability of additional public resources, within the unemployment measures announced by the Prime Minister in July, to encourage staying on in full·time education.
Assumes approximately 1,000 full-time equivalent students on college-based in-service training, for which figures are not available
Numbers still to be determined.

Housing Associations

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many housing units he expects housing associations to provide in 1981–82 in the private rented sector either by new build or rehabilitation of existing properties.

On the information currently available I would expect a total of some 4,600 completions, of which some 1,800 units are expected to be new build and 2,800 to result from rehabilitation projects.

Education And Science

Passports

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he is aware of any local education authorities which ask to see the passports of children before accepting them into school; and whether he will take steps to determine the extent of this practice.

School admission arrangements are a matter for local education authorities. General guidance was issued in circular 1/81, but my Department does not monitor the ways in which local education authorities discharge this duty. The practice of one London authority which was recently the subject of press reports has, I understand, now been changed.

Liverpool (Ministerial Visit)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science where the Under-Secretary of State visited on his recent tour of Liverpool; and if he will make a statement.

My hon. Friend went to the area of the Liverpool local education authority on Monday 9 November and visited the sites of all those county secondary schools which are the subject of outstanding statutory proposals published by the authority under section 12(1) of the Education Act 1980.

Metallurgy Courses

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what conveniently available statistics he has on which universities run courses on metallurgy; and with how many students and postgraduates.

Universities running metallurgy courses in 1980–81 and the numbers of postgraduates and undergraduates on them are as follows:

Full-time and Sandwich Students 1980–81
UniversityUndergraduatePostgraduate
Aston9033
Birmingham8241
Brunel6026
Cambridge3553
Leeds5819
Liverpool3420
London University6162
Manchester6221
University of Manchester Institute of Science and Technology4717
Newcastle6217
Nottingham738
Oxford7137
Salford422
Sheffield6778
Surrey4915
Cardiff U.C.378
Swansea U.C.3512
Strathclyde656

Science And Technology Courses

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many (a) undergradute and (b) graduate courses are available at each university in (i) science and (ii) technology with enrolments of fewer than 50 students; and if he will list the courses and universities.

Information on the number of courses is not available, but universities where the number of students at undergraduate and postgraduate level in 1980–81 enrolled on science or engineering and technology is less than 50 are as follows:

Undergraduates

  • Engineering and technology
  • East Anglia*
  • London Graduate School of Business Studies*
  • Manchester Business School*
  • York
  • Aberystwyth U.C.
  • St. David's, Lampeter*
  • Welsh National School of Medicine*
  • St. Andrew's*
  • Ulster Coleraine*

Science

  • London Graduate Sch000l of Business Studies*
  • Manchester Business School*
  • St. David's, Lampeter*
  • Welsh National School of Medicine*

Postgraduates

  • Engineering and technology
  • Bristol
  • Durham
  • East Anglia*
  • Exeter Hull
  • Keele
  • Lancaster
  • Leicester
  • London Graduate School of Business Studies
  • Manchester Business School*
  • Sussex
  • Warwick
  • York
  • Aberystwyth U.C.*
  • Bangor U.C.
  • St. David's, Lampeter*
  • Welsh National School of Medicine*
  • University of Wales Institute of Medicine*
  • University of Wales Institute of Science and Technology
  • Aberdeen
  • Edinburgh
  • St. Andrew's*
  • Stirling
  • Queens, Belfast
  • Ulster, Coleraine*

Science

  • London Graduate School of Business Studies*
  • Manchester Business School*
  • St. David's, Lampeter*
  • Welsh National School of Medicine
  • Ulster Coleraine

* No students in this subject group.

Note: Engineering and Technology is Group 3 and Science is Group 5 in the classification of students for education statistics.

Open University

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if the Open University operates a policy of positive discrimination in favour of non-qualified and lower socio-economic group applicants when processing applications to become first-time students.

The Open University does not operate such a policy. Subject to constraints on the number and regional distribution of places available on particular courses and on the proportion of students who are already graduates, the university operates on the basis of first come, first served.

Biotechnologists

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what representations he has had calling for the creation of 20 new university posts for biotechnologists, and from whom; what consideration he will now give to this; and if he will make a statement.

The creation of 20 new university posts in biotechnology was recommended in the report of a joint working party of the Advisory Council for Applied Research and Development, of the Advisory Board for the Research Councils and of the Royal Society. The Royal Society Education Committee has since repeated that recommendation in a recent unpublished report. As indicated in the Government's response to the joint working party's report, provision in the universities for new technologies including biotechnology is kept under review by the research councils and the University Grants Committee.

Universities

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many young persons will be admitted to universities in Scotland in 1982–83 compared with the two previous sessions; and if he will give figures for each university.

The following table gives full-time undergraduate new entrants under 21 to each Scottish university in 1980–81. Figures are not yet available for 1981–82. The University Grants Committee has set the universities student number targets for home and European Community students to be achieved by 1983–84 or 1984–85. For Scottish universities as a whole these amount to a 5 per cent. reduction over numbers in 1979–80. It is for each university to decide what the intake should be each year to meet these targets.

Full-time Undergraduate New Entrants Under 21
Number
Aberdeen1,313
Dundee761
Edinburgh2,216
Glasgow2,155
Heriot-Watt767
St. Andrews839
Stirling743
Strathclyde1,586
Total10,380

16 To 19-Year-Olds

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many 16 to 19-year-olds, and what proportion of the age group, are undertaking education; and if he will give details of the kind of education.

In the academic year 1980–81, 1,143,000 young people aged 16, 17 and 18 at August 1980 (47 per cent. of the age group) were undertaking full-time or part education, in school, university and public sector colleges in England and Wales. The detailed breakdown by type of education is as follows:

Number of students (000s)Percentage of age group
Schools40517
Non-advanced further education full-time and sandwich study23610
part-time day release study28712
other part-time day study321
evening only study1125
Higher education (all modes of attendance)703

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will make a statement, further to the Prime Minister's on 27 July, about the additional resources for the education of 16 to 19-year-olds.

As the Prime Minister announced on 27 July—[Vol. 9, c. 834]—the Government are providing for an additional £60 million of public expenditure in the United Kingdom in 1982–83, to permit an extra 50,000 young people to stay on at school or college. The plans provide for £49·5 million of this total to be incurred in England in 1982–83; and for additional expenditure in England of £74 million in 1983–84.Present conditions are encouraging more young people to continue their education after they reach the age of 16 so as to improve their skills. Local education authorities are eager to help and many authorities are already making great efforts.Following discussion with the local authority associations, I have determined that the £49·5 million of additional planned expenditure in 1982–83 should be added to the total relevant expenditure for rate support grant purposes. There will be a corresponding increase in the total of local education authorities' grant-related expenditure (GRE), which will be apportioned between individual authorities according to estimates of the incidence of youth unemployment. Individual authorities' GREs in 1982–83 will thus be increased as follows:

£000s
Barking178
Barnet136
Bexley162
Brent190
Bromley176
Croydon211
Ealing272
Enfield92
Haringey260
Harrow70
Havering209
Hillingdon157
Hounslow165
Kingston-upon-Thames53
Merton121
Newham291
Redbridge130
Richmond-upon-Thames63
Sutton99
Waltham Forest217
OUTER LONDON BOROUGHS3,252
Inner London Education Authority2,627
Birmingham1,523
Coventry425
Dudley296
Sandwell572
Solihull278
Walsall384
Wolverhampton504
Knowsley347
Liverpool1,013
St. Helens294
Sefton358
Wirral478
Bolton360
Bury194
Manchester777
Oldham303
Rochdale286
Salford340
Stockport318
Tameside273
Trafford223
Wigan444
Barnsley369
Doncaster541
Rotherham423
Sheffield766
Bradford501
Calderdale239

£000s

Kirklees566
Leeds750
Wakefield447
Gateshead358
Newcastle upon Tyne451
North Tyneside272
South Tyneside352
Sunderland556
METROPOLITAN DISTRICTS16,581
Isles of Scilly2
Avon872
Bedfordshire481
Berkshire542
Buckinghamshire347
Cambridgeshire487
Cheshire1,139
Cleveland1,031
Cornwall278
Cumbria592
Derbyshire1,059
Devon813
Dorset368
Durham826
East Sussex346
Essex1,236
Gloucestershire465
Hampshire1,301
Hereford and Worcester562
Hertfordshire724
Humberside1,644
Isle of Wight82
Kent1,404
Lancashire1,337
Leicestershire770
Lincolnshire624
Norfolk535
North Yorkshire467
Northamptonshire584
Northumberland319
Nottinghamshire1,243
Oxfordshire373
Shropshire383
Somerset280
Staffordshire1,226
Suffolk503
Surrey503
Warwickshire504
West Sussex356
Wiltshire432
NON-METROPOLITAN COUNTIES27,040
ENGLAND49,500

The increase in relevant expenditure will attract additional exchequer rate support grant at the rate determined for the grant settlement for 1982–83. The increases in GRE will therefore be reflected in authorities' grant entitlements. The best estimate is that nationally about 40 per cent.—approaching 20,000—of the additional young people will stay on in schools, and 60 per cent.—approaching 30,000—enrol for full-time courses in colleges of further education. How the additional resources are applied locally will be a matter for each individual authority to decide in the light of its particular circumstances, taking account of the balance of its educational provision and the nature of the demand from its young people. Many authorities are already responding, within the resources available to them, to the growing demand for education from 16 to 19-year-olds that is evident in many parts of the country. I am confident that all will try to make the best use of the resources available in order to offer young people courses of value to themselves, their future employers and the nation.

I shall review the arrangements for subsequent years in respect of this additional educational provision in the light of authorities' response to the Government's initiative in 1982–83.

Education Maintenance Allowance

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many persons are claiming education maintenance allowance; and what is the average payment.

This information is not available and could not be obtained without disproportionate cost. Individual authorities' total expenditure on maintenance awards is recorded in annual returns to the Department of Environment, but the information does not extend to the number of such awards and their average level.

Student Maintenance Awards

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is his estimate of the effect on public expenditure and on student numbers of the abolition of the minimum grant in student maintenance awards.

Assuming the present parental contribution scale remains unchanged, the saving to public expenditure of abolishing the minimum maintenance payment is estimated at about £7 million. The effect on student numbers of its abolition would be minimal since only 8 per cent. of higher education students receive a minimum grant.

Applied Science

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what figures are available to him indicating the effect of the University Grants Committee's cuts on the study and research of applied science in the universities.

The University Grants Committee's allocations of grant for 1981–82 and its provisional indications for later years provide for some growth in the number of home students in engineering and technology compared with the position in 1979–80. The committee's recommendations to individual universities do not propose specific allocations of grant between subject areas. The committee has taken into account the needs of research in its allocation of recurrent and equipment grant, but expects the overall reduction in resources to lead to some further concentration of research activity.

University Departments (Closures)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what information he has relating to cases of universities proposing to close down departments recommended for continuation or expansion by the University Grants Committee.

My right hon. Friend is not aware that any university has yet formally decided to adopt a course other than that recommended by the committee.

Education Expenditure

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many representations he has received protesting at cuts in (a) the unversities and (b) the public sector of higher education; and what proportion of these protests have come from vice-chancellors and principals.

The Department does not keep detailed records that would allow this question to be answered accurately. Ministers have received approaching 3,000 letters about the financing of the universities and a much smaller number about the public sector of higher education. The proportion of representations from vice-chancellors and principals is necessarily small, given the overall total of letters received.

Students Numbers

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the rebate and extent of the penalties which will be incurred by universities which exceed their University Grants Committee target figures for students numbers in the academic year 1981–82, 1982–83 and 1983–84.

The University Grants Committee's letters to universities of 1 July inform them of the student target numbers on which the committee's provisional indications of grant for 1983–84 have been based, and say that universities may treat these targets as applicable to 1983–84 or 1984–85. The committee has not set targets for intervening years. It will be for the University Grants Committee to consider whether these provisional indications of grant should be reassessed in the light of all the relevant circumstances.

Universities (Redundancies)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will state, university by university, those institutions which have so far produced figures for teaching and non-teaching staff redundancies following the recent allocations of the University Grants Committee, with the provisional estimates for cost in each instance; and whether any such institutions have indicated their inability to meet the financial burdens entailed whilst remaining solvent.

Arts-Based Courses

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many places in arts-based courses recommended for cuts by the University Grants Committee are accounted for by undergraduate or postgraduate courses which involve mathematics and applied sciences.

The University Grants Committee's recommendations to universities about student numbers in the arts and social studies are not in terms which allow the analysis requested.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Council Of Agriculture Ministers (Meeting)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what was the outcome of the Council of Agriculture Ministers meeting on 16 November; and if he will make a statement.

I represented the United Kingdom at this Council under my right hon. Friend's chairmanship.The Council considered the Commission's proposals for implementing its guidelines for agriculture under the Council of Foreign Ministers' mandate of 30 May 1980. There was considerable divergence of views. The discussion was reported to the Foreign Affairs Council which is preparing for the European Council meeting on 26–27 November.In our view the Commission was underestimating the prospective surplus problem. We attached considerably more importance than the Commission to a strict price policy which would have regard to market circumstances and the trend of prices outside the Community. Therefore, we supported its proposal for a better balance between cereal and livestock prices and for a progressive reduction in the gap between Community and United States cereal prices. This would make the import of certain cereal substitutes used for animal feeding less attractive and avoid the pressure for restrictions on such imports. A more rigorous approach to prices should apply to other products in surplus as well as to cereals.We agreed that price policy should be supplemented by guarantee targets for the main commodities, with reduced guarantees for production above these targets. We opposed any arrangements which discriminated between producers according to their size or intensity of production. In particular we argued against all forms of milk coresponsibility levy other than a supplementary levy on proportionate increases in producion.On national aids, I pointed out that the Commission had not prepared comprehensive proposals as promised and I urge the need for much stricter discipline.

I stressed our view that the effect of the changes in the CAP should be to contain the growth of guarantee expenditure markedly below the increase in revenue.

The Council agreed that further work was required on the Commission's proposed changes in arrangements for Mediterranean products to prepare for the accession to the Community of Spain and Portugal. I underlined the need for a fundamental reform of the olive oil regime to deal with surplus production and the consequent budgetary problems. I rejected the suggestion that this should be accompanied by increases in the consumer costs of other oils and oilseeds.

The Council also agreed to a more detailed exploration of the possibility of long term contracts for Community exports. In common with a number of countries, we doubted the value of these arrangements and warned that no proposal for a specific negotiating mandate would be entertained until the further work had been completed.

Agreement was reached in principle on the continuation for 1982 of the Community's GATT quotas for high quality cuts of beef and veal.

The Commission reported that it had again approached the Netherlands Government without result about the unfair gas price advantage enjoyed by Dutch growers. With strong backing from other member States, I deplored the continued lack of action on a matter which was creating serious difficulties for our producers and which was bringing the Commission into disrepute. Mr. Dalsager said that the Commission would be deciding this week regarding legal action against the Dutch Government.

The Commission proposed that the minimum guaranteed price to be offered to ACP countries for their raw suger for 1981–82 should be increased by 8½ per cent. rather than 7½ per cent. and that the associated storage levy scheme should be abolished from 1 July 1981. Some countries objected to the second element. I stressed our view that the existing offer was fair and had not been adequately followed through in negotiation. Any change would have to take our refiners' interests fully and permanently into account. The proposal was referred to the special committee for agriculture.