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Written Answers

Volume 61: debated on Thursday 30 April 1914

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Written Answers

Customs Watchers

asked the Secretary to the Treasury the number of Customs watchers at present employed in the Port of London, and the total amount of the overtime paid to the London watchers for the three months of October, November, and December, 1912, and for the corresponding three months in 1913?

The number of watchers at present employed in the Port of London is 450. The figures of overtime pay requested are not available, and their preparation would involve a good deal of labour, and in any case they would not be properly comparable, as the amount of overtime work and the number of watchers employed—factors upon which the aggregate amount of pay depends—are not constant, but varying factors.

asked the Secretary to the Treasury what is the number, for the three years ended March 31st, 1914, of retired members of the Army, Navy, and Police, respectively, whose names have been placed on the list of applicants for the situation of watcher in the Customs and Excise Department; and the number appointed from each of those services during the same period?

The lists of applicants for the situation of watcher are kept locally at ports where watchers are employed, and the information requested in the first part of the question is, therefore,' not readily available. Many watchers register for employment at more than one port, and to give the information asked for would mean a scrutiny of hundreds of names to eliminate those who had thus duplicated registration. The answer to the second part of the question is Army 25, Navy 130, Police 11.

Royal Navy

Lieutenant-Commander

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether the new rank of lieutenant-commander, which is to be granted to naval lieutenants of eight years' seniority, will be created also in the Royal Naval Reserve and the Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve; and, if not, whether he will take into his consideration the desirability of still further encouraging the officers of these two units by instituting a similar rank in their case also?

British Army

Geneva Cross

asked the Secretary of State for War why men of the National Reserve who have served in the Royal Army Medical Corps, Regulars or Auxiliaries, are not permitted to wear the Geneva Cross of the Royal Army Medical Corps on parade, provided they are properly registered under the new classification and are restricted to wearing it on parade; and will he consider the granting of this privilege to these men?

Under Article 23 of the Geneva Convention the emblem of the red cross on a white ground and the words "Red Cross" or "Geneva Cross" cannot be used except to protect or to indicate the medical units and establishments and the personnel and materiel protected by the Convention.

Securities (Depreciation)

asked the Under-Secretary for India what is the present depreciation in the value of British Government Securities held on behalf of the Paper Currency Reserve and purchased when it was provided that not more than 200 lakhs was to be in such securities?

The depreciation of the securities in question amounts to approximately £210,250.

also asked what is the present depreciation in British Government securities held in respect of the Paper Currency Reserve in excess of the 200 lakhs formerly authorised to be invested in such securities?

The present depreciation of the securities in question—i.e., of securities of the British Government purchased in April, 1011, under the Indian Paper Currency Act of that year—is approximately £106,000.

also asked how much of the Paper Currency Reserve is now held in London; how much is in gold at the Bank of England; and how much is in British Government securities?

The amount held in London is £8,766,666 13s. 4d., of which £0,100,000 is held in gold at the Bank of England, and £2,666,666 13s. 4d. (the equivalent of 40 millions of rupees) represents the sum expended in the purchase of securities of the British Government.

asked what would be the difference in value at present market prices, and the difference in annual interest receivable, if the second 200 lakhs belonging to the Paper Currency Reserve authorised to be invested in British Government securities had been invested in 3½ rupee paper bought in India at prices current at the time when the securities now held were purchased?

In the hypothetical case stated the value of the securities at present market prices would have been greater by £101,840, and the annual interest receivable larger by £7,742.

Speed Limit (Sidney Butler, Conviction)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, in his consideration of the proceedings-in the case of the conviction of Sidney Butler, a chauffeur employed by the First Lord of the Admiralty, and particularly in relation to the alleged attempt of that personage to interfere with the course of justice, he applied to the magistrate or officials at Bow Street for a copy of any minutes of evidence or other official record before having recourse to the reports of daily papers in order to determine whether he should direct the Public Prosecutor to take action against the First Lord of the Admiralty?

I have obtained a copy of the notes of evidence taken at Bow Street. No facts appear in them or have been brought to my notice that suggest in any way the desirability of communicating with the Director of Public Prosecutions in regard to this case.

Shipbuilding Yards (Factory And Workshops Act Regulations)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when the Regulations made by his Department under the Factory and Workshop Act (Dangerous and Unhealthy Industries) to apply to the construction and repair of ships in shipbuilding yards are to become operative?

Stipendiary Magistrates' Courts

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether it is his practice to ascertain the evidence given or other facts in relation to proceedings before the stipendiary magistrates from the daily newspapers, or whether such course is only taken when it is ascertained that no official record is in existence of such evidence or facts?

The usual practice is to ask the magistrate for a copy of the notes of evidence, but in some cases the reports in the newspapers are so full as to render a reference to the magistrate unnecessary.

Ministers (Police Protection)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department by whom or out of what fund are the police or other officers detailed to protect Ministers paid; who requisitions such services; who determines what should be the form and extent of the protection afforded; what number of men are now employed in such service; and in what manner are they distributed?

When he finds it necessary, the Commissioner of Police, who is responsible in the matter, employs for the protection of individual Ministers the number of police officers needed for this purpose. The cost is paid from the Police Fund out of the annual contribution made by the Treasury under Section 1 of the Police Act, 1909, in respect of services rendered by the police for Imperial and national purposes. The Commissioner advises me that it would be against the public interest to publish details as to their distribution.

Anthrax (Fatal Cases)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is aware that on Wednesday, the 15th instant, a washbowl minder employed by Messrs. Campbell and Harrison, a branch of Woolcombers, Limited, of Bradford, contracted anthrax in the course of his employment and died of the said disease on the following Saturday, and that on the same day a washbowl feeder in the employment of Messrs. John Cure and Company, another branch of Woolcombers, Limited, contracted anthrax in the course of his employment, and he also died of the same disease; and whether he will say how many cases of anthrax have occurred among the employés of each of the two firms mentioned, respectively, during the period of years, 1900 to 1913, inclusive, distinguishing between different years and fatal and non-fatal cases?

supplied the following figures:—

Year.Cases at Messrs. Campbell and Harrison.Cases at Messrs. John Cure and Company.
Non-Fatal.Fatal.Total.Non-Fatal.Fatal.Total.
1900.224
1901.1111
1902.22
1903.2244
1904.1122
1905.5611246
1906.43722
1907.2222
1908.21311
1909.55
1910.112
1911.325
1912.224112
1013.55
Tot'l361854*14620
* Not including a housewife (non-fatal) in l903. whose husband, son, and sister, all worked in this factory.

Criminal Investigation Department

asked the Home Secretary whether the special or political branch of the Criminal Investigation Department of Scotland Yard forms a part of the Metropolitan Police and is under the authority of the Commissioners?

There is no "political" branch of the Criminal Investigation Department. As regards the special branch, the answer is in the affirmative.

Inebriate Reformatory, Perth

asked the Secretary for Scotland the number of clients in Perth for whom laundry work is done at the State Inebriate Reformatory?

I am informed that the number of regular customers is about 40 and that washing is only done for those who bring and take away the articles washed.

Old Age Pensions

asked the Chief Secretary the grounds upon which the Local Government Board decided that Patrick Delahunty, Thomastown, county Kilkenny, was not entitled to any old age pension?

Patrick Delahunty's claim for an old age pension was disallowed by the Local Government Board on appeal on the ground that they were not satisfied that his means as caluculated under the Acts were less than £31 10s. per annum. Delahunty is in receipt of a pension of 12s. a week from the Thomastown board of guardians. He has also £20 in the bank, and house and land property, a portion of which he assigned to his unmarried son in 1912. In addition, his wife has a hardware and grocery store, and keeps lodgers.

Lunatics, Ireland (Capitation Grant)

asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland if ho will state for each of the years 1911, 1912, and J913 the amount certified by the auditor as payable to the county council of the county of Monaghan in respect of the Capitation Grant for lunatics, and also the amount actually paid in each of those years; how much has been paid in respect of the year 1914; whether he can state what the deficit in respect of this year, to be borne by the ratepayers, will probably be; and whether in face of this annually increasing deficit, he can hold out any hope that the Government will take steps to relieve the local authorities from this burden?

The following statement shows the amounts certified to be payable and the actual payments made to Monaghan County Council from the Local Taxation Account in respect of the cost of maintenance of lunatics:—

Amount certified to be Payable by the Auditor.Amount Paid.
£s.d.£s.d.
For the year ended 31st March, 1911, but paid in the financial year 1911–124,2051083,62921
For the year ended 31st March. 1912, but paid in the financial year 1912–134,284883,84565
For the year ended 31st March, 1913, but paid in the financial year 1913–144,171523,705190
For the year ended 31st March, 1914, but paid in the financial year 1914–15Audited claims1,60000
not yet received"on account"
The income of the branch of the Local Taxation Account from which these payments are made is not ascertainable until towards the end of the financial year, and no estimate of the state of the account for the year 1914–15 is at present practicable. I am not in a position to make any state-men with regard to the last paragraph of the question.

Land Purchase (Ireland)

asked the Chief Secretary how many estates have been purchased in Queen's County under the Land Purchase (Ireland) Acts from the passing of the Ashbourne Act to the 1st April, 1914?

Proceedings under the Land Purchase Acts prior to 1903 were for the sale of separate holdings, and not of estates as a whole. The number of holdings in Queen's County purchased or agreed to be purchased under the Land Purchase Acts from the passing of the Act of 1885 to the 1st instant is 5,632.

asked the Chief Secretary if his attention has been called to the judgment of the Recorder of Cork, when granting decrees against tenant purchasers at Midleton, as to the hardship inflicted on the farmers sued by the Land Commission owing to their cattle being rendered unsaleable by the prohibitions of the Department of Agriculture respecting foot-and-mouth disease; will he say what numbers of decrees were granted at Midleton against tenant purchasers in 1914, and for the same period in 1913; and, as the Midleton fair has been forbidden this year by the Department of Agriculture, will the Land Commission abstain from enforcing the decrees until farmers are allowed to sell their cattle?

I have seen a newspaper report of the observations of the Recorder of Cork at the recent Midleton Quarter Sessions on the subject referred to in the question. The number of decrees granted at the Quarter Sessions against tenant-purchasers was eighty-four; and the number of decrees granted at the corresponding Midleton Sessions in 1913 was fifty-five. The number at the corresponding Sessions in 1912 was seventy. The Land Commission are bound to enforce the prompt payment of Land Purchase Annuities and have no power to suspend the execution of decrees.

Post Office

Classes Of Employés (Annual Cost)

asked the Postmaster-General if he will state separately the

Class or Subject.Immediate Additional Annual Cost.
Change in Hours of DutyOther Changes.
££
Substitution on higher duties5,500
Long lockers and accommodation for bicycles5,000
Travelling post office, lavatory accommodation150
Boy sorter service to count for pension350
Increased rates for overtime beyond certain limits51,500
Classification of offices, London outdoor force110
Postmen (on basis of present classification of offices—
London18,970
Provinces86,350
Auxiliary and temporary postmen41,500
Assistant postmen4,000
Unestablished postmen1,920
Telegraphists, male480
Counter clerks and telegraphists, male2,120
Sorting clerks and telegraphists, male25,00030,100
Sorting clerks and telegraphists, female11,600
Boy messengers and girl probationers to carry their pay on becoming learners400
Ex-military telegraphists330
Counter losses550
Cable-room allowances170
Allowance after passing examination for promotion450
Special events100
Unestablished telegraphists, sorting clerks and telegraphists, telephonists and porters250
Wireless operators and overseers500
Sorters20,820
Assistants and returners, returned letter section (London Postal Service)130
Tracing staff650
Porters, London6,220
Bagmen490
Head porters, London480
Tube attendants and night collectors (Central Telegraph Office)330
Liftmen, London430
Adult messengers, London180
Assistant head postmen and head postmen, London560
Supervision of messengers, London Postal Service1,700
Supervision of messengers, Central Telegraph Office150
Supervising staff, male, postal, London Postal Service550
Supervising staff, male, Central Telegraph Office540
Outdoor supervising staff, Provinces2,8305,430
Indoor supervising staff, Provinces male10,0904,530
Indoor supervising staff, Provinces female280
Telephone learners2,040
Telephonists, probationary service to count towards privileges4,860
Telephonists, London Telephone Service6,950
Telephonists, Provinces11,3904,700
Telephone supervising force, provinces670
Male night operators and call office attendants3,670
Caretaker-operators6,600

total amounts allocated, respectively, to each class of employés in the postal, telegraph, and telephone services included in and constituting the aggregate of £640,000?

Class or Subject.Immediate Additional Annual Cost.
Change in Hour's of Duty.Other Changes.
££
Registry assistants, 1st class260
Women sorters and overseers of women sorters1,200
Engineering classes52,62025,590
Engineering classes Travelling time12,000
Engineering classes Lodging and subsistence allowances11,000
Engineering classes Week-end fares2,000
Electric light staff1,680
Submarine cable staff70
Store porters and 3rd class storomen1,160
Charwomen, London4,120
Scale payment sub-postmasters—
Conversion of offices to salaried sub-offices or to branch offices5,900
Receipt of telephone accounts900
National Insurance work27,800
Telegraph work32,500
Savings Bank coupons270
Increase of unit values13,800
Dating back of triennial revisions28,000
Relief from bond400
Salaried sub-postmasters1,620
Postmasters730
Postmasters Day subsistence allowances500
Margin for minor concessions for which it is not practicable to frame detailed estimates of cost10,000
Smaller classes25,000
Total115,030528,750
643,780

Bolton Work

asked the Postmaster-General the number of money order, postal order, registered letter, and telegram transactions at the Bolton post office during the month of January last, or the last month for which returns are

Number of Money Orders.Number of Postal Orders.Registered Letters received at CounterTelegraphic Transactions.
Issued.Paid.Issued.Paid.Handed in at Counter.Received over Telephone.Total ForwardedReceived.Transmitted.
Head Office—
5582,20811,63113,7523,4983,2762,1175,39311,6627,335
Branch Office—
179172,2152,994200415415

available; the number of clerks employed on counter duty; and the number employed on telegraph duties during the same month?

The following return for the month of March, 1914, shows the desired information:—

NUMBER OF OFFICERS EMPLOYED.
On Counter Duties.Total Number— of Hours Attendance on Counter Duty.On Telegraphic Duties.Total Number of Hours of Telegraphic Duty Worked.
Males.Females.Males.Females.
Head Office—
2Overseers2SortingOverseer, 14 Male, 60¼ Female, 81Assistant Superintendent6Sorting Clerks and TelegraphistsAssistant Superintendent, 8 Male, 40 Female, 40
13Sorting Clerks and TelegraphistsClerks and Telegraphists7Sorting Clerks and Telegraphists
Branch Office—
3Sorting Clerks and Telegraphists15Telegrams were dealt with by the Counter Clerk.

Preserved Cream (Boracic Acid)

asked the President of the Local Government Board whether, in view of the condition existing with regard to the sale of preserved cream and to the character of the prosecutions brought against traders, he will, in the Bill which he proposes to introduce, include a provisional figure of the percentage of boracic acid which may be used, as a maximum, in the preservation of cream, and thus enable the trade to be conducted with less uncertainty?

I would refer the hon. Member to my remarks on this subject in the Debate on the 22nd instant. I do not think that I can undertake to include in the Bill such a Clause as is suggested.

Telephone Service

London And Provincial Extensions

asked the Postmaster-General how much he proposes to spend during the current financial year on the extension, exclusive of replacement of plant, of the London telephone system and in the rest of the country, respectively, on exchange equipment, on subscribers' station equipment, on junction wire cables between exchanges, on subscribers' cables and distributing cables and wires, respectively?

It is estimated that the extension of the telephone system will involve the expenditure during the current financial year of approximately the following amounts:—

London.Provinces.
££
Exchange Equipment145,000160,000
Subscribers' Station Equipment70,000120,000
Junction Wire Cables between Exchanges95,000250,000
Subscribers' Cables and Distributing Cables and Wires300,0001,000,000
Total£610,000£1,530,000